Fermat,
It sounds like you're going to need to do some customer education, perhaps
gently. Ask the appropriate people for help if you need it. Fix their
underlying problems. Help solve your customer's true business pains.
Just to give you yet another data point, I recall hearing about a company
Here is what I did this morning:
The chain of pids under pid=1 looked like this 1-- 400 (userid3) -- 200
(userid5) -- 500 (userid1) -- 300 (userid5) and so on.
c userid*.* (there was no address space without a number at the end) got me:
IEE535I CANCEL INVALID PARAMETER
c userid.* (not that I
I'm a little concerned about this transition phase in which application folks
implicitly use the new compiler but 'move' load modules to the old LE
environment.
I think this migration path is pretty common for most shops.
In the shops I've worked in, the migration path has always been a QA-like
David Crayford writes:
Ahhhaaa, you named and shamed and I didn't have to
*search the archives*!
A lot of the Websphere portfolio doesn't port well to z/OS.
I have anecdotal evidence (I was told by an IBMer) that
Websphere messaage broker runs like a stallion on AIX but
sucks big time on z/OS.
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 17:17 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:
I'm a little concerned about this transition phase in which application
folks implicitly use the new compiler but 'move' load modules to the old LE
environment.
I'm a bit with Ted on this - you need to fix the process Skip.
After a
Fermat Ma wrote:
Thanks for replying. Actually, the goal is to migrate an application off to
open platform. And the data updated on open platform also needs to be synch
back to IMS. Therefore, we were thinking about using JDBC Type 4 driver.
With that, there should be no need to develop
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:03:36 +0200, Rafal Hanzel
hanz...@zetokatowice.pl wrote:
I have a question about ISPF Command Shell panel.
That is option 6, right?
I used for example: telnet mvs01 and I received:
Just tried it over here and it works fine. From the command line in the panel,
from the
Timothy Sipples wrote:
David Crayford writes:
Ahhhaaa, you named and shamed and I didn't have to
*search the archives*!
A lot of the Websphere portfolio doesn't port well to z/OS.
I have anecdotal evidence (I was told by an IBMer) that
Websphere messaage broker runs like a stallion on AIX but
OK, after 25 years as a sysprog this should not confuse me, but...
A previous systems programmer left these canned jobs to clone a res pack
to a new one for maintenance purposes. Simple right?
I run the first job, vary off, init, varyon, ipltext, setcache, etc and
then the copy step fails.
PAGE
R U using a none-empty stepcat/jobcat to catalog the datasets?
ITschak
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.comwrote:
OK, after 25 years as a sysprog this should not confuse me, but...
A previous systems programmer left these canned jobs to clone a res pack
to a
John Eells wrote:
Yes, we absolutely do still consider requirements valuable, and we DO
use them when prioritizing work for upcoming releases. Buy me a beer at
SCIDS in Denver and I'll tell you what happened with this one.
Thanks John.
It's good to know that the SHARE requirement has not
David Crayford wrote:
Timothy Sipples wrote:
David Crayford writes:
Ahhhaaa, you named and shamed and I didn't have to
*search the archives*!
A lot of the Websphere portfolio doesn't port well to z/OS.
I have anecdotal evidence (I was told by an IBMer) that
Websphere messaage broker runs like
Sounds like your bypass storage class (STORCLAS(SCNONSMS)) isn't taking
effect (SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=), ie it seems like your omvs dsn are
going sms and that has to be catalogued.
SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=
Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)
Ken,
The question is: For these OMVS datasets, are they HFS or ZFS?
I'm guessing that that these OMVS datasets are ZFS(Linear VSAM).
Because of that, you cannot indirectly catalog them like you could with
HFS datasets. The most common ROT is to include a qualifier in the OMVS
DSN that includes
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:17:57 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net
wrote:
F OMVS,SHUTDOWN
well, at the point I detected those pids, issuing this command would have
been just as bad as what I did (shutting down the fork service), as OMVS (or
the fork service) was still needed for WBI shutdown. And
See below...
Clark Kidd wrote:
John Eells wrote:
Yes, we absolutely do still consider requirements valuable, and we DO
use them when prioritizing work for upcoming releases. Buy me a beer at
SCIDS in Denver and I'll tell you what happened with this one.
Thanks John.
It's good to know
I think Jack is on to something here. I've been here 6 weeks and I am
NOT an sms guru. Could very well be the acs rules. My new peers are
telling me that these cloner jobs have recently (weeks ago) run fine but
only the sys1.* datasets are getting copied. All the ones like these
fail:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:27 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
... one of the big 4 retail banks in Australia were disappointed
with the performance of WMB.
Now that *is* a surprise.
... only one ??? ...
Shane ...
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Check your ACS rules to make sure that there is not something that
restricts certain functions, such as bypassing rules, that are limited to
an identified set of user ids?
If you are new, you may need to add your TSO Id to such a list.
Thanks
Bill Bishop
Specialist
Mainframe Support Group
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 06:09 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
Avoid the use of Java when not needed.
s/ when not needed//
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:25:21 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
I don't know about *your* automation product, but ours doesn't like F
OMVS,SHUTDOWN very much. AF/Oper has it's hooks into OMVS, and if you
kill OMVS before AF/Oper recedes on its own, things tend to get hung out to
Good call, Bill. I got the job working with bypassacs. When I notified a
peer sysprog he realized my id was not in the hard coded list of users
that are allowed to tweak the storage class. Upon hearing how easily I
bypassed this restriction, he decided that loophole needed to be closed.
COPY
Bob, for 1) - 5) You are correct
for 6), the Based on STGADMIN.EDG.MASTER access. for access NONE is
meant to mean exactly the same as for the entity not defined - i.e. You
cannot update volume information for volumes you do not own unless you
have CONTROL access to STGADMIN.EDG.MASTER.
Mike
Bob,
We could really use you as a contributor in http://oss4zos.org
Let me know if you would like an id so you can post (We don't have an
open registration process since wiki-spammers nailed us).
Here's a page that should be updated with your very nice Info-Zip work:
When I'm in SDSF and I'm viewing only stated tasks (DA OSTC) I sometimes
enter a S next to the STC and I get the message JCT NOT AVAILABLE.
What I do know about this error, is that the JOBCARD is missing and one
can be created in a different PDS (in my old job it was called
SYS2.NodeID.STCJOBS).
Kirk, thanks for info on Co:Z.
Its not that I hate OMVS, it was just additional space was required as
USS Info-zip couldn't read from MVS datasets.
This solution works for me
- can be used to read MVS datasets
- can be used to write to MVS datasets as well
- retains trailing spaces
- uses
d21mike21 wrote:
On Jun 22, 11:16 am, Mike Carver m...@data21.com wrote:
Can anyone tell me where I can get a list ofSACIRELValues for the
various CICS T/S Releases.
I have the following at this point:
CICS T/S 2.2 -SACIREL= 0620
CICS T/S 3.1 -SACIREL=
CICS T/S 3.2 -SACIREL= 0650
What
When configuring z/OS 1.9 I find that the VBUILD TYPE=TCP vtam definition
no longer exists. Is there any replacement function for Anynet SNA over
TCPIP.
Jim McAlpine
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Subject: JCT Not Available
When I'm in SDSF and I'm viewing only stated tasks (DA OSTC)
I
Is there any ONE place where ALL of the possible facility class profiles
for STGADMIN might be listed/found?
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John,
That's exactly what I am looking for...Thanks for the quick response...
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Is there any ONE place where ALL of the possible facility
class profiles
Ah, yes, well, I've already applied for citizenship in an alternate
universe. Several times. Antimatter keeps obliterating the paperwork. Still
hopeful...
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
Enterprise Extender?
Jim Wangler
214-502-6445
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Subject: anynet SNA over TCPIP
When configuring z/OS 1.9 I
Vikesh,
I don't see a way to avoid the - file created by zip: this is what it
uses as a file name when it uses stdin as input. Better to use gzip or
bzip2 for single files anyway.
I didn't mean to imply that you hated OMVS - this was a little joke
referring to recent threads on IBM-MAIN :-)
On the other hand, don't do it like I've sorta been forced to do. Due
to lack of resources to test new COBOL releases, I've been carrying
forward the release I installed somewhere around a/OS 1.4 :(
And, with one of those replace the systems with an ERP sometime in the
next decade coming on,
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:01:13 -0400, George Rodriguez
rodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote:
John,
That's exactly what I am looking for...Thanks for the quick response...
But note that most STCs do not have JOB statements, and yet most of them do
have JCTs and are viewable under SDSF.
That
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:55:40 -0700, Jim Chappell
james.chapp...@daimler.com wrote:
Is there any ONE place where ALL of the possible facility class profiles
for STGADMIN might be listed/found?
All of the possible ones? No, but you can come close to finding all of them
that are actually used by
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:23:03 -0500, Mark Zelden
mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:09:17 +0100, Jim McAlpine
jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote:
The one in SYS1.LPALIB is 8 bytes long and is 8 bytes of low values. But the
lpalstxx member has the USER.LPALIB first like so -
On 23 Jun 2009 08:22:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
much snipped
Also, based on this latest group of responses (4 out of 7 rejected), I'm
wondering if IBM still considers requirements to be anything valuable, or
whether they are just another annoyance that needs to be buried in
Hi Walt,
How can I distinguish the STC running under MSTR from the one running
under JES?
Thanks,
George Rodriguez
Specialist, Systems Programmer
Network Technical Services
(561) 357-7652 (office)
(561) 707-3496 (mobil)
School District of Palm Beach County
3348 Forest Hill Blvd.
Room B-332
West
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When I'm in SDSF and I'm viewing only stated tasks (DA OSTC) I
sometimes
enter a S next to the STC and I get the message JCT NOT AVAILABLE.
What I do know about this error, is that the JOBCARD is
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Subject: Re: JCT Not Available
Hi Walt,
How can I distinguish the STC running under MSTR from the
DTS Software has a pocket reference guide on their website that is available to
anyone. It contains a lot of the Security stuff.
http://www.dtssoftware.com/Ref%20Guide9.01.pdf
I have tried downloading it and the website seems to have a problem. I have
contacted DTS to see what is wrong. But
AFAIK, Anynet is no longer supported. As of z/OS 1.8
See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z2m151.pdf pp 133-134
snip
Subject: anynet SNA over TCPIP
When configuring z/OS 1.9 I find that the VBUILD TYPE=TCP vtam
definition
no longer exists. Is there any replacement function for
How can I distinguish the STC running under MSTR from the one running under
JES?
(Tongue in Cheek)
For one, the JCT is not available. (8-{]}
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John,
Now that you've explained it to me, it makes a lot of sense...From what
I've identified every STC that has a JobID (except for *MASTER*) I can
view the output. I must have been mistaken about why to have a JOBCARD
in a spate PDS library... Is the purpose for adding the DD card to the
member
Cute... I just figured that out... is (8-{]} Burt Simpson or just a
monkey?
Thanks,
George Rodriguez
Specialist, Systems Programmer
Network Technical Services
(561) 357-7652 (office)
(561) 707-3496 (mobil)
School District of Palm Beach County
3348 Forest Hill Blvd.
Room B-332
West Palm Beach,
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John,
Now that you've explained it to me, it makes a lot of
is (8-{]} Burt Simpson or just a monkey?
It's Bart, not Burt, and no.
It's a custom 'smiley'.
Bald head
Glasses
Nose
Mustache
Smile
Beard
(Me)
There are two versions:
1. Happy: (8-{]}
2. Sad:(8-{[}
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Thanks for the education and I did mean to say Bart...
I enjoyed our little talk...
Thanks,
George Rodriguez
Specialist, Systems Programmer
Network Technical Services
(561) 357-7652 (office)
(561) 707-3496 (mobil)
School District of Palm Beach County
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I'm still looking for the relevence to mainframes.
Must have missed it.
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Shane wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 06:09 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
Avoid the use of Java when not needed.
s/ when not needed//
Shane ...
But, then you would not know the joys of using the write once; debug
everywhere language! ;-)
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Phoenix Software
Strange. Granted I have not done much in Java. But I have written one GUI based
application which uses Derby as its database. That app was compiled on Linux
and successfully ran on Win2K, MacOSX, and z/OS using the same jar file.
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
Just a thought - write an SMP/E USERMOD to REPLACE the IBM-supplied
ICHRIN03 in SYS1.LPALIB. Pro: it eliminates the duplication and LPA load
sequencing issue. Cons: You have to write and maintain MCS, and re-install
Clark Morris wrote:
that even rejected requirements are sometimes implemented.
And, sometimes they're rejected even *after* they're implemented! :-D
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407L=ibm-main-archivesP=R2529I=1X=-
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5200 W
I have been trying to learn 'C' and Java is a 'joy' compared to it.
Maybe a few things do not work properly between releases of Java, but at
least the syntax is pretty consistent, not like C, C++, C#, et al, where
nothing is the same.
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On 24 Jun 2009 11:01:29 -0700, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Edward
Jaffe) wrote:
But, then you would not know the joys of using the write once; debug
everywhere language! ;-)
Modern languages are like TVs. We don't maintain their code, we
replace it.
Personnaly, I clone with FDR full-volume copy, not by data set. Works much
better. Of course, I don't keep any OMVS or VSAM files on my source (or
staging) sysres volumes so these type of problems are avoided. I have just
one job that clones to a new sysres, makes new copies of the system
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Bob,
We could really use you as a contributor in http://oss4zos.org
Let me know if you would like an id so you can post (We don't
have an open registration process since wiki-spammers nailed us).
Yes, please send me whatever info I need,
The Dynamic Volume Count (DVC) parameter in the Data Class constructs is used
to specify to the total number of volumes a data set can span, without actually
placing an entry in the catalog used by other methods until needed by EOV to
extend the data set. This is where the TIOT, TCTTIOT and
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
Just a thought - write an SMP/E USERMOD to REPLACE the IBM-supplied
ICHRIN03 in SYS1.LPALIB. Pro: it eliminates the duplication and LPA load
sequencing issue. Cons: You have to write and maintain MCS, and re-install
What a great quote!
I'm a big Java fan, but your statement is sadly true about most Java
applications developed today.
It is not that Java isn't a terrific language, but all modern OO languages
suffer the same problem: they provide more ways for poor programmers to
make a mess. Most companies
Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
Just a thought - write an SMP/E USERMOD to REPLACE the IBM-supplied
ICHRIN03 in SYS1.LPALIB. Pro: it eliminates the duplication and LPA load
sequencing issue. Cons: You have to write and
Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
Just a thought - write an SMP/E USERMOD to REPLACE the IBM-supplied
ICHRIN03 in SYS1.LPALIB. Pro: it eliminates the duplication and LPA load
sequencing issue. Cons: You have to write and
I'm not an nedit user, but why don't you port the nedit server part to
z/OS, which should be much simpler and sounds pretty cool to me:
http://www.nedit.org/help/server.php#Client/Server_Mode
Then you could run the client on your workstation, which makes more sense to
me than running an X-based
Try modset key=0.
2009/6/23 Zahir Hemini zhem...@gmail.com
Use Matrix from Exspans.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Hello all, I have written an mq security exit for z/os in assembler that
works pretty well. What I would like to add is the capability
It sort of depends on what you are trying to connect. If you are doing
mainframe to mainframe, its better to do EE. If you have client software at
the workstation you can reconfigure some of the old TCP62 connections to TCPIP
and connect IP to IP if your mainframe application like CICS has
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:03 -0400, Clark Morris wrote:
Back in the 1980's I submitted a group of requirements for SLAC
assembler features (duplicate and overlapping USING flagging, listing
the usings in header or title line, etc.). They were all rejected and
unfortunately I had a conflict for
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:15:25 -0500, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
Just a thought - write an SMP/E USERMOD to REPLACE the IBM-supplied
ICHRIN03 in SYS1.LPALIB. Pro: it eliminates the duplication and LPA load
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:52:26 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote:
Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
Just a thought - write an SMP/E USERMOD to REPLACE the IBM-supplied
ICHRIN03 in SYS1.LPALIB. Pro: it eliminates the
I know that the IEF233A message is issued at step start for mounting a tape
referenced in the JCL. And I know that the IEC501A message, if necessary, is
issued when the tape is actually OPEN'ed. My question relates to the WTO which
writes the message. It appears that the IEC501A message is
If you are using DFDSS to clone, You would have to code BYPASSACS(**) NSC NMC
to by pass SMS to assign null storage class and management class. .
Natarajan
Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 6/24/2009 6:44 AM
I think Jack is on to something here. I've been here 6 weeks and I am
NOT an sms
After a many year (10, 11?) project to get off the mainframe, we will be
turning it off July 1.
Where once stood motor generators, a 3090-400 (IIRC), now nearly 700
servers are starting their pigeon toed march to VM's.
I've migrated over the years to supporting various unix/linux
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After a many year (10, 11?) project to get off the mainframe,
we will
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote:
And, sometimes they're rejected even *after* they're implemented! :-D
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407L=ibm-main-archivesP=R2529I=1X=-
And I remember a VM session at SHARE where a requirement went from
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:15:22 -0700, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
...
And, sometimes they're rejected even *after* they're implemented!
:-D
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407L=ibm-main-
archivesP=R2529I=1X=-
Odd. In following Ed's link (that was not wrapped in the
I don't get into our machine room much as operations handles IPLs.
But I needed to do some HCD activities today
What a surprise to find rows of servers spewing out so much heat
That they had to bring in several of the portable AC unit to keep it
cooler than 90%
Seems to me that these server
I must be in the same out-crowd. The worst part is that the application
gave me opportunity to create a 'new' password. I went through the entire
process twice and still cannot log in.
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Vikesh Bhoola wrote:
Kirk, thanks for info on Co:Z.
Its not that I hate OMVS...
I should hope not!
Apart from the single - file name within zip this is great. I
assume there is no way getting around this one ?
This is a limitation of zip - no external
I don't get into our machine room much as operations handles IPLs.
But I needed to do some HCD activities today
What a surprise to find rows of servers spewing out so much heat That they
had to bring in several of the portable AC unit to keep it cooler than 90%
Seems to me that these server
2009/6/24 Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net
What frustrates me most is the absence of a command that will terminate a
pid chain (like described above) *without* having to issue a force to each
and
every process. The numbers aren't really conducive to being analyzed by a
human[...]
Certainly not
Bob Shannon pisze:
I don't get into our machine room much as operations handles IPLs.
But I needed to do some HCD activities today
What a surprise to find rows of servers spewing out so much heat That they had
to bring in several of the portable AC unit to keep it cooler than 90%
Seems
Jim Chappell pisze:
Is there any ONE place where ALL of the possible facility class profiles
for STGADMIN might be listed/found?
No. Unfortunately.
However it's much better when you analyze second qualifier. For example
STGADMIN.EDG are described in RMM manuals, STGADMIN.ADR are for DSS, etc.
HVAC typically comes out of a different cost center / budget.
Which is one reason I like competitors embracing this technology. Keeps our
sales people happy, too.
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Tom Longfellow tlongfel...@verizon.net writes:
This sounds like an entirely different situation. The thing being
replaced in your picture is the communications, not the database
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:00:41 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
Odd. In following Ed's link (that was not wrapped in the original)
I get a login popup saying
Sorry, you are not authorized to browse the archives of the
IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list from the email address
(patrick.oke...@wamu.net) you
There's IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES, and then there's the archives of IBM-MAIN.
Two separate lists. You need to subscribe to IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES to
access those.
Don Imbriale
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Below is a copy of Darren's post explaining the ARCHIVES archive.
Greg Shirey
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I have just made a
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bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob Shannon) writes:
IBM used to give huge discounts to universities. About 15-20 or so
years ago they did away with the discounts
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 15:11 -0400, Bob Woodside wrote:
(When I can edit my source files directly on
z/OS with Nedit, I'll be a happy camper!)
I thought Nedit had quietly died a few years back. Nice editor.
Shane ...
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snippage
IBM used to give huge discounts to universities. About 15-20 or
IBM has 11 years to convince their management the mainframe is good idea.
They didn't succeeded or even didn't try.
IBM used to give huge discounts to universities. About 15-20 or so years ago
they did away with the discounts and universities started migrating off the
mainframe. The few
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Kirk Wolf wrote:
I'm not an nedit user, but why don't you port the nedit server part
to z/OS, which should be much simpler and sounds pretty cool to me:
Actually, I always use it in client-server mode, with the client
(nc) and server (nedit -server) running on
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Shane wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 15:11 -0400, Bob Woodside wrote:
(When I can edit my source files directly on
z/OS with Nedit, I'll be a happy camper!)
I thought Nedit had quietly died a few years back. Nice editor.
It's still alive on my machines, but
On 24 Jun 2009 13:03:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:03 -0400, Clark Morris wrote:
Back in the 1980's I submitted a group of requirements for SLAC
assembler features (duplicate and overlapping USING flagging, listing
the usings in header or title line,
Not just for Enterprise COBOL, but for all languages that use an LE
run-time, it is now and has been for as long as I can remember
CRITICAL
that the run-time on all systems be at the highest level *before* you
start rolling out object code created by higher-level compilers.
This goes all the
I would check with any vendor as to whether this is still true (that they
can't handle LE dumps). Current software should work with LE and should not
need non-normal dumps. If your vendor requires something else, then ask
THEM what LE options they expect to be in effect when the dump in THEIR
What frustrates me most is the absence of a command that will terminate a
pid chain (like described above) *without* having to issue a force to each
and every process.
While pids converted to hex look a lot more readable, as far as I could see,
they're shown in decimal, too, when the ps
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