Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-07 Thread Pearce, Colin E
Ask the Auditors if they will help you fill out all the APARs and collect the supporting documents Colin Pearce -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:51 PM To:

Re: Decouple Accenture's Install-1 from CICS

2012-08-07 Thread Scott Chapman
You can do just about anything with enough time, money, and code. I'm usually lacking in one or more of those resources. However, having some experience with Install/1, if you have a non-trivial application written using the online architecture, replacing certainly would a signficant

Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product Supervisor?

2012-08-07 Thread Lloyd Fuller
It used to (late 1980s and early 1990s. At some used book dealers you used to find the cover-less books available. I do not know if it happens anymore. Lloyd - Original Message From: Ken Brick kbr...@netspace.net.au To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, August 6, 2012 6:08:07 PM

Re: Message Flooding Problem

2012-08-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
I was given bad information prior to my initial posting. The root cause of the problem wasn't RACF audit being turned on, but cleanup of the access list of several CSFKEYS profiles. We're getting tons of racf violation messages in syslog/operlog. MPF can't process them fast enough, which in

Re: Message Flooding Problem

2012-08-07 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Do you have a IEAVMXIT active? I think it can delete the unwanted messages efficiently and fast enough to eliminate your problems temporarily. Kees. Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote in message news:5020f497.2020...@custserv.com... I was given bad information prior to my initial

Re: Message Flooding Problem

2012-08-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
No we don't, and that was one of the options I was looking at yesterday. On 08/07/12 07:24, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: Do you have a IEAVMXIT active? I think it can delete the unwanted messages efficiently and fast enough to eliminate your problems temporarily. Kees. Mark

DFHSM QUESTION - CDS BACKUP WAITING

2012-08-07 Thread willie bunter
Good Morning to All Members,   I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which occurred over the weekend.  For some reason the CDS backup didn't kick off.  The console message of CDS BACKUP, CURRENTLY IN PROCESS was missed.  This was finally noticed about 2 hours later.  The STC was cancelled

Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product Supervisor?

2012-08-07 Thread Bill Fairchild
This is one of many reasons why SHARE attendance was so much fun. There was great camaraderie, esprit de corps, and also it made a lot of business sense for both employers and employees' careers to participate. Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane * Franklin, TN

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Dale R. Smith
I have successfully used POINT, READ, and CHECK Macros on CMS to read MVS datasets, but never had a need for NOTE. How did you successfully use POINT without having first done a NOTE so that the POINT knows where to POINT? Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread McKown, John
snip TMS was replaced with RMM, which of course does not have support for VM/CMS and to make it worse, RMM uses a VSAM file, which cannot even be read currently on VM/CMS. I created a QSAM extract file from RMM and a QSAM Index file, (that contained the tape volser and record number in

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:24:58 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, what about writing an STC on z/OS to do the RMM command necessary to get the information you need. In addition, write a CMS program which uses some communication method (TCPIP? Perhaps

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Hal Merritt
The file isn't corrupted. If it were, then it must be discarded in its entirety and replaced because you can't assume that the damage is restricted to that one field. As others have posted, a SOC7 is a program malfunction. Fix the program. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: The file isn't corrupted. If it were, then it must be discarded in its entirety and replaced because you can't assume that the damage is restricted to that one field. As others have posted, a SOC7 is a program

Question about DFHSM ML1

2012-08-07 Thread Daniel Allen
I have a SMS-managed dataset that resides in a storage group. I have also the same SMS-managed dataset on ML1. How do I remove the SMS-managed dataset on ML1 ? Can I go into the ML1 volume and delete it ? -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Ed Gould wrote: Just be aware that when you are bleeding edge you will find other issues that will cause you to put on other fix(s). It can be an unending running mill. If you decide to go that way hire extra staff and get some extra

Re: Question about DFHSM ML1

2012-08-07 Thread Daniel Allen
Thanks, Allan. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about DFHSM ML1 1) rename orig sms-managed DS on DASD 2) DEFINE

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Dale R. Smith
So presumably when the control records were created, CA software did a NOTE of the TTR of the beginning of each volser range and saved the results of the NOTE in the control record. This saved NOTE value was the base to which the offset, calculated from the user's input, was added. Bill

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Gould
Hal: A long time ago (when MVS first came out) a programmer got an S0C7 and brought it to us as it was a system abend for it was our problem. I pointed out while picking up the phone to his boss's boss and telling them both to read the FM and to get the F out of there. His boss had a few

Re: MF TCO Infrastructure Estimate - Medium Size Shop

2012-08-07 Thread Hal Merritt
I'd go with: FTE gross pay x 2 + purchase price of all the hardware / lifespan + maintenance contracts on all the hardware + annual software license costs + facility (HVAC, power, water, real estate, housekeeprs, trash bags, etc) + materials/supplies (tapes, paper, laptops, desktops,

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread McKown, John
Oh, wow. We must have had the same person working in the late 1970s at my first job. System abend is a System problem, FIX IT! was his first statement on an S0C7. I explained that System abend meant system detected problem. And I showed him how to find the statement which abended in his COBOL

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2012-08-07 11:11, Bill Fairchild wrote: So presumably when the control records were created, CA software did a NOTE of the TTR of the beginning of each volser range and saved the results of the NOTE in the control record. This saved NOTE value was the base to which the offset,

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread McKown, John
Can't keep TTRs in a PDS either because members move around when compressed or replaced. The CA-1 TMC is basically a fixed length BDAM file without keys. If it were to be replaced, I would expect either a VSAM RRDS or LDS. If an LDS, I wonder if it could be memory mapped into a common 64 bit

Re: How to report catalogued dsns on tape ? ICF Catalogs

2012-08-07 Thread Mike Wood
A.Cecelio, For the rmm system, you do not need to write any code/rexx, simply run EDGHSKP utility with PARM='CATSYNCH,VERIFY'. rmm will assume you have catalogs fully shared and will cross-check all your connected ICF catalogs with the rmm CDS data set records. rmm reports mismatches, and,

Finding Waiters/Holders After Abend

2012-08-07 Thread George Henke
Help before my shop replaces a GRS STAR with a Mii (aka MIM) RING on a MULTISYSTEM, just so production support does not have to issue an F GRS command to try to discover the Waiters/Holders too late, after the fact, after the job abends. Evidently MIM has a nice audit trail in the job log which

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Scott Ford
I love it .I had a COBOL programmer bet me that our DOS/VSE system on our 4381 was causing her abend. She bet me a dinner, well I collected, brought her in and did a instruction trace pointed right to her code Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:27 PM, McKown, John

Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product Supervisor?

2012-08-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0f38850c-ff90-42cc-8897-b4fa59db3...@yahoo.com, on 08/06/2012 at 09:52 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: God I love it, need a sense of humor You would have liked Rannie; he had a marvelous sense of humor. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product Supervisor?

2012-08-07 Thread Scott Ford
Too many yutz's in the world Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In 0f38850c-ff90-42cc-8897-b4fa59db3...@yahoo.com, on 08/06/2012 at 09:52 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: God I love it, need a

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:24 -0500 on 08/06/2012, Dale R. Smith wrote about Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?: The first sentence under the NOTE Macro in the MVS/XA Reference contains this info: The NOTE macro instruction causes the system to return the position of the last block read from or

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-07 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:17 + on 08/07/2012, Pearce, Colin E wrote about Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!: Ask the Auditors if they will help you fill out all the APARs and collect the supporting documents IMO: Any Auditor who wants to tell me how to do my job (as opposed to just critiquing how I do it) is

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2012-08-07 19:10, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 22:24 -0500 on 08/06/2012, Dale R. Smith wrote about Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?: So it sounds like the NOTE Macro will only work after a Read or a Write has been done to the dastaset, not after an OPEN Macro. If

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Graham Hobbs
.. and she didn't have your experience, your salary or your brain .. bully for you Scott! Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:12 PM Subject: Re: File

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 39235829-1d9d-411b-bb12-6b739e1c2...@yahoo.com, on 08/07/2012 at 08:12 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I love it .I had a COBOL programmer bet me that our DOS/VSE system on our 4381 was causing her abend. She bet me a dinner, well I collected, brought her in and did a

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343415c8...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 08/07/2012 at 01:08 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said: How did you successfully use POINT without having first done a NOTE so that the POINT knows where to POINT? Some obvious ways that it can be

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 08/07/2012 at 02:27 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: We had DOS/VS at that time. The DOS person said that DOS would occasionally kill his programs as well. With the words USER REQUESTED TERMINATION. The

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAFMxNW+NmuenEh0Tem8RnQdZ=jtgauuhsoilq6iussgrltr...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/07/2012 at 12:03 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: An 0c7 is a data exception error detected by the hardware. No; it is an ABEND detected by the Program FLIH when there is no SPIE to catch interupt code 7. Without

Re: File Processing

2012-08-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In CAFMxNW+NmuenEh0Tem8RnQdZ=jtgauuhsoilq6iussgrltr...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/07/2012 at 12:03 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: An 0c7 is a data exception error detected by the hardware. No; it

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-07 Thread Thomas Kern
On 8/7/2012 21:20, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 10:17 + on 08/07/2012, Pearce, Colin E wrote about Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!: Ask the Auditors if they will help you fill out all the APARs and collect the supporting documents IMO: Any Auditor who wants to tell me how to do my