Re: Binder MODULE map for UNIX files

2012-10-11 Thread Ravi Gaur
Not sure but does it has to do with concatenation ? The binder does not support z/OS UNIX files concatenated with other z/OS UNIX files or data sets of any type. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: SLIP trap or some other possibility to DUMP on a given message text ?

2012-10-11 Thread Ravi Gaur
This is one example where if Register 5 (Dataset name ) match the ICH408I it will capture Svcdump. slip set,enable,id=rk01,msgid=ich408i,jobname=NBKEODV, Action=svcd,matchlim=1,data=(5R,EQC,SYS1.TCPPARMS),DEBUG,END ICH408I USER(NBKEODV ) GROUP(AL3ZOS ) NAME(KUMAR, RAVI ) 725

Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-11 Thread Ravi Gaur
Did you check if really SYSLOGD address space active or not? it capture log for FTP daemon etc.. D A,SYSLOGD IEE115I 01.08.26 2012.286 ACTIVITY 488 JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS ACTIVE/M

Re: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread Scott Ford
There is a name for a manager like that Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: > ObAnecdote: > > > > A long time ago (17 years), the sm

Query for Destination z article on chargeback systems

2012-10-11 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Query for Destination z article on chargeback systems I'm writing article for Destination z -- http://destinationz.org/ -- giving tips on chargeback systems. I'm interested in reasons for/against implementing chargeback; technical tips for implementing; political hints for inflicting, includin

Getting keyword in a verify exit

2012-10-11 Thread micheal butz
Hi, I am using a the same VALIDCK exit when processing 2 different subfields Is there anyway to determine what the corresponding keyword would be in the exit Is there anyway to know what the corresponding subfiled e.g. where member is the keyword MEMBER(SOURCE) ANd I am processing th

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:55 + on 10/11/2012, Hervey Martinez wrote about Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape: If you have CRQ(Common Recall Queue) set up, then HSM will "look ahead" and recall all files that are on the same tape. Also, with CRQ, you can limit which LPARS will perform recalls and limit them in that m

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:10 -0400 on 10/11/2012, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote about Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape: Elardus, I think you missed the distinction between submitting recalls and a process causing recalls. At this shop it was not unusual for a user to submit an Iefbr14 job to delete datasets t

Re: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread Phil Smith III
ObAnecdote: A long time ago (17 years), the small software company where I worked was finally connected to the nascent Internet, at a blazing 9600bps. We had a tiny web server running on (then) VM/ESA, serving a static page. The Senior VP of Marketing came by my office and asked if I knew

Re: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread Grinsell, Don
Does said person sign your paycheck or are they in some other way in your food chain? If not, then I think you can refer them to the appropriate policy. If so, then I guess Clint Eastwood's question is appropriate: "Do you feel lucky?" -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins

Re: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread zMan
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Roberts, John J wrote: > I think the right response is: Yes, Mr President, I'll get right on this! > > Or in earlier times: Yes, My Liege, Your Wish is My Command! Well, sure, if THAT's the level of request! But then it's a simple matter of telling your boss, "Mr

Re: SMP/E question

2012-10-11 Thread Skip Robinson
DOC related to message content has its own category: AO . . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" To: IBM-MAIN

Re: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread Roberts, John J
I think the right response is: Yes, Mr President, I'll get right on this! Or in earlier times: Yes, My Liege, Your Wish is My Command! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@list

Re: Zero length records outlawed! (Again.)

2012-10-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2370190418757832.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 10/09/2012 at 04:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >I've been told there is a Track Balance system call that tells >(used to) how much space remained on a track. "7.5 Performing Track Calculations" in z/OS DFSMSdfp Advanced Services

Re: SMP/E question

2012-10-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/10/2012 at 08:36 AM, Skip Robinson said: >I've said previously that a DOC record requiring action should be >(re)classified (or accompanied by) an ACTION hold. Typically a DOC hold is there because of new messages; an ACTION hold for that would be inappropriate. Similarly, if the

Re: Is there a correspondence between 64-bit IBM mainframes and PoOps editions levels?

2012-10-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca34372300...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>, on 10/10/2012 at 06:35 PM, Bill Fairchild said: >Shmuel, you often attribute malicious intent to other posters when >you call them hypocritical. Only when they appear hypocritical. >I believe your reply to Mr. Gilm

Re: Question about Catalogs and VSAM

2012-10-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5a5d121d7293fe498308f3835183d19413c70...@ch1prd0510mb380.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>, on 10/10/2012 at 08:43 PM, Daniel Allen said: >We have a SYSPLEX of four LPARs, each LPAR has a separate Master >Catalog and a separate User Catalog defined to the Master Catalog. >Each Master Catalog has

Re: z/OS 1.12 SSHD authentication failing

2012-10-11 Thread Donald J.
Thanks for response. It appears the SCEERUN2 XPLINK members were put in MLPA instead of dynamic LPA (error message at IPL time because of PDS-E). The MLS messages were apparently not errors, just misleading as to where the problem was. -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net On Wed, Oct 10, 201

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread zMan
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Paul Peplinski wrote: > We have 10 of us that can open SRs (along with SIS, AST, and SRD) but only > one of us has Q&A. We do not have that Enterprise agreement. Or so you think :-( -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it"

Re: FW: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread zMan
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:03 PM, McKown, John wrote: > From another, i-series related, email forum. > -Original Message- > From: midrange-nontech-boun...@midrange.com [mailto: > midrange-nontech-boun...@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Gqcy > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:56 PM > To: midr

Re: Delete Catalogs from VVCR

2012-10-11 Thread Mike Schwab
I have this jcl to run before taking a volume offline. //jobname JOB acct,programmer,CLASS=c etc //SDELVVDS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //Vvolser DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=volser,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DELETE SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser CAT(ICFCAT.usercat1) FILE(Vvolser) NSCR DELETE SY

Re: Delete Catalogs from VVCR

2012-10-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
And the error msg is? Do you have the required authority? This is where T-Rexx (Dinosoft) or CR+ come in handy. I have also found that there is no benefit in being anal about these actually harmless entries. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Origin

Delete Catalogs from VVCR

2012-10-11 Thread Martin, Larry D
I have old (no longer exist) catalog names in the VVCR record of many VVDS's. It says in "z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMS AMS for Catalogs": Only catalogs that reside on the converted volume need to have their names in the VVCR. You can remove unneeded catalog names from the VVCR by using DELETE VVDS NOSCRATC

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Peplinski
We have 10 of us that can open SRs (along with SIS, AST, and SRD) but only one of us has Q&A. We do not have that Enterprise agreement. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lis

FW: how do you answer the "My job is too important to follow normal channels for help" statement?

2012-10-11 Thread McKown, John
>From another, i-series related, email forum. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Brian France
Well I continue to push. I'm asking for documentation as to when this change went into effect. Clarification on the dollar$ cause, WOW!! Still am being told we never should've been able to do what we've been doing. I state back there's a hell of a lot of others in the world doing this and you

Re: Did ShopzSeries change the way they deliver RSU maintenance ?

2012-10-11 Thread Bonno, Tuco
I downloaded rsu 1207, 1208, 1209 earlier today; took a couple of hours, but it completed successfully for me /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia; "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! " -Original Message- From: IBM M

Re: Slip trap for cross memory mode

2012-10-11 Thread Chuck Arney
I responded to Ron off list about how we will support this in the future. Chuck Arney Arney Computer Systems http://zosdebug.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron MacRae Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:55 AM To:

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
> In the spirit of SHARE, we would even occasionally > report a problem for which we already had found a circumvention I have had a long-open SR, in which I have invested a lot of hours -- SOLELY because the group here told me I was being a bad citizen if I did not report the bug, even though I

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread retired mainframer
Why not run a small test with 10-15 datasets on 2-3 tape volumes? You may discover that your shop has some feature that prevents HSM from managing the tapes intelligently. :>: -Original Message- :>: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :>: Behalf Of Liz

Destination z article: Competent complaining creates constructive catastrophe conclusion climate

2012-10-11 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Competent complaining creates constructive catastrophe conclusion climate http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Systems-Administration/Competent-Complaining-Creates-Constructive-Catastr.aspx Thanks for input; next query to come shortly... -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc.

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 10/11/2012 08:37 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:35 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: So it sounds like they've lost the distinction between HOWTO and bug reports. That would be a big step backward, and indeed irritating. I do understand the *theory* behind this: if every Tom, Di

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:19:59 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: >I think you missed the distinction between submitting recalls and a process >causing recalls. At this shop it was not unusual for a user to submit an >Iefbr14 job to delete datasets thereby causing the recall of any da

Re: Did ShopzSeries change the way they deliver RSU maintenance ?

2012-10-11 Thread Mark Pace
Odd that I had no issues with downloading RSU on Monday, but on Tuesday and now today every time I try to download an RSU my FTP stalls. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez wrote: > I have been suffering similar problems lastly. > > Downloads take a long time to be available for

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Allan, the norecall option is specified in our ALLOxx member. I did use the past tense in my posting. There are however other processes that do the same thing here with the same redundant HSM tape mounts. I was just using Iefbr14 as an example that all would be familiar with. Dave O'Brie

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Staller, Allan
See ' SYSTEM IEFBR14_DELMIGDS(NORECALL)' in SYS1.PARMLIB(ALLOCxx). New with z/OS 1.11 (?) At this shop it was not unusual for a user to submit an Iefbr14 job to delete datasets thereby causing the recall of any dataset that had been migrated. Since the recall is serial, it would result in one

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Elardus, I think you missed the distinction between submitting recalls and a process causing recalls. At this shop it was not unusual for a user to submit an Iefbr14 job to delete datasets thereby causing the recall of any dataset that had been migrated. Since the recall is serial, it would res

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
O'Brien, David W. wrote: >One caveat, if I may. Is your user submitting 5000 Hrecalls or are they >submitting a process which will result in 5000 recalls? The latter could >result in 5000 tape mounts. No. Look up on TAPEMAXRECALLTASKS and MAXRECALLTASKS. So in your example with TAPEMAXRECALLTA

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:35 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: > >So it sounds like they've lost the distinction between HOWTO and bug reports. >That would be a big step backward, and indeed irritating. I do understand the >*theory* behind this: if every Tom, Dick, and Jane at every IBM customer can >ope

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
They are using a REXX that generates HRECALL (file1 file2 file3 file4 etc...) NOWAIT Or some will submit a TSO Batch job with individual HRECALL file1 NOWAIT commands. I am not happy with this process and am I working to create a better REXX for them to use for this. But for now, we have requ

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hervey, Yes I do have CRQ in use. I am also working to implementing MASH (Multiple Address Space HSM) and RLS to try and provide some performance and relief to DFHSM Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf > Of Herv

Re: SMP/E question

2012-10-11 Thread Art Gutowski
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:36:42 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: >I've said previously that a DOC record requiring action should be >(re)classified (or accompanied by) an ACTION hold. ENH in practice seems >to be a subset DOC: informative but not requiring immediate action. Agreed, with the operative w

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Lizette, One caveat, if I may. Is your user submitting 5000 Hrecalls or are they submitting a process which will result in 5000 recalls? The latter could result in 5000 tape mounts. Dave O'Brien -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler [mailto:stars...@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday,

Re: OpenPGP doesn't use crypto hardware? was Re: OpenPGP Encryption

2012-10-11 Thread Steve Finch
I then send PGP RSA encrypted data offsite. Am I not offloading processing to crypto hardware (CEX2) during encryption? -- PGP encryption does not use the hardware (CPACF/ CEX2). The data i

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Everyone thanks so much for confirming what I was told. Where my problem arises is when a user wants to recall 5000 or more datasets. I was concerned that the recall process would serialize it rather than finding all the files on a given migration tape and work with it until it needed a new tape.

Re: IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Phil Smith
Brian France wrote: > I'm surmising that y'all, like us, have multiple user id's for support at > www.ibm.com/support. We have several people here that have opened PMR's over > the past many many years. A couple of weeks back I went in to open an issue > and found that I was no longer entitl

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Hervey Martinez
Dave, Yes I've heard that but have never seen it done without CRQ. Regards, Hervey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED

Re: Question about Catalogs and VSAM

2012-10-11 Thread Larry Crilley
If you are asking about opening a VSAM file after an allocation of DISP=OLD, then as others here have said, GRS will prevent you from allocation/OPEN on other systems within the SYSPLEX. However, if you are asking about an allocation of SHR and allowing VSAM SHROPTs to protect you, then you have a

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hervey, That is not true, at least not at this shop. HSM routinely queues recalls according to tape volume in order to minimize tape mounts with or without CRQ. Dave O'Brien -Original Message- From: Hervey Martinez [mailto:hervey.marti...@custserv.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012

IBM, id's to open pmr's, lot$a $$$$ now involved?...

2012-10-11 Thread Brian France
All, I'm surmising that y'all, like us, have multiple user id's for support at www.ibm.com/support. We have several people here that have opened PMR's over the past many many years. A couple of weeks back I went in to open an issue and found that I was no longer entitled to z/OS. What I f

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Hervey Martinez
If you have CRQ(Common Recall Queue) set up, then HSM will "look ahead" and recall all files that are on the same tape. Also, with CRQ, you can limit which LPARS will perform recalls and limit them in that manner and all recalls will be routed to that LPAR. Otherwise, the recalls happen one at a

Re: Slip trap for cross memory mode

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Relson
If running on z/OS 1.13, be sure that PTF UA64306 (APAR OA38669) is installed. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu wi

Re: SLIP trap or some other possibility to DUMP on a given message text ?

2012-10-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you have an automation tool (OPS/MVS, Tivoli, SA390, etc...) then you could trigger the dump with the automation product. I think there maybe something on the CBTTAPE.ORG called TSSO or similar. I have not looked at the use of MSGID but there might also be some testing in the SLIP code. I am

Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-11 Thread IT Pro
The least I could do was post the solution here. Regards. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM, IT Pro wrote: > I completely agree, Peter. > Thanks for your understanding. > Aitor. > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) > wrote: >>>Seeing that the message is quite misleading,

Re: syslogd: FSUM1229 syslogd is already active

2012-10-11 Thread IT Pro
I completely agree, Peter. Thanks for your understanding. Aitor. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: >>Seeing that the message is quite misleading, yes it may deserve >>opening an APAR. I didn't think about it really. I have never opened >>an APAR before, but my boss

Re: SLIP trap or some other possibility to DUMP on a given message text ?

2012-10-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:25:53 +0200 Miklos Szigetvari wrote: :>Can I set the SLIP TRAP on a given message content ? :>I mean I can set the TRAP if MSGID=ICH408I, but I would need the dump :>only if MSGID=ICH408I and the text contains a specific file or dataset :>name. At SLIP entry R3 points t

Re: Slip trap for cross memory mode

2012-10-11 Thread Ron MacRae
Chuck, I don't think your product, or any other real time debugger, wouldn't help in our situation. 1) The problem we are trying to debug is happening on our customer's production system. The system recovers as best it can and continues to run but we don't take a dump. They cannot r

Re: Slip trap for cross memory mode

2012-10-11 Thread Ron MacRae
Jim, Your suggestion almost worked. Neither the home or primary AS alone were enough to cause the slip to fire. I found the cross memory IF slip fired only if I added BOTH asids to the slip as follows - SLIP SET,IF,ID=RJM1,ACTION=SVCD,ASID=(asid-of-STC2. asid-of-STC1), PVTMOD=(module,offs

Re: Slip trap for cross memory mode

2012-10-11 Thread Ron MacRae
Ray, Thanks for the idea, however it's not practical. The program is loaded in the primary address space by the primary AS program using attach and the actual address varies. I could take a dump after it's loaded to find out where it is but this is being done by one of our customers who m

SLIP trap or some other possibility to DUMP on a given message text ?

2012-10-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Can I set the SLIP TRAP on a given message content ? I mean I can set the TRAP if MSGID=ICH408I, but I would need the dump only if MSGID=ICH408I and the text contains a specific file or dataset name. -- For IBM-MAIN s

Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape

2012-10-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:58 -0500 on 10/10/2012, Mike Schwab wrote about Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape: When it HSM finishes a recall, it checks the que in order for any recall on the same tape. When it reaches the end of the que, it unmounts the tape, and starts recalling the first waiting dataset on the que. Hav