Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: Could you use RACF warning mode to get a handle on who's accessing (or not accessing) these fonts? Unless those datasets are protected in GAT. You'll have remove them from GAT and mark the relevant profile in WARN. You could use NOTIFY if you wish or just use

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Warning: It has really be a long time I have worked with AFP and have now some experience with VPS. So, take my comments with a little pinch of salt. ;-) Ed Gould wrote: I am *ASSUMING* that VPS cuts type 6 records (SMF). Yes, your assumption is sort of correct, because it is JES2 which

Re: Doug Nadel's ISPFHTML - retired

2014-03-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Did not realize he was close to O100 years old On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:52:14 +1100 Hank Oerlemans ha...@au1.ibm.com wrote: :Doug will have retired from IBM by the end of this month. : :Much material has been removed and will no longer be available from his :site to avoid any perceived conflict

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5228466182930420.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/24/2014 at 07:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I can use FTP (a TCP/IP protocol) to submit jobs to localhost. I do not need multiple TCP/IP stacks to do this; What does that have to do with the price of eggs

Re: Doug Nadel's ISPFHTML - retired

2014-03-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Hank, Thanks for the heads up about Doug. I still use his tools on a daily basis. Tools such as ISRFIND, ISRDDN, and TASID to name a few. Thank you, Doug, for your contribution to ISPF's usefulness and my productivity! Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Doug Nadel's ISPFHTML - retired

2014-03-25 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:25:35 -0400, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: Hank, Thanks for the heads up about Doug. I still use his tools on a daily basis. Tools such as ISRFIND, ISRDDN, and TASID to name a few. Thank you, Doug, for your contribution to ISPF's usefulness and my

Re: curious: volsers 6 non-blank chars non-numeric tape

2014-03-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:49:42 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Just catching up after a few days away from IBM-MAIN. I'm sure you've had lots of responses by now. 1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank characters for a regularly used volume?

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:19:06 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Again, that's a similarity rather than a difference, unless you are claiming that, e.g., an FTP server can communicate with itself over TCP/IP. A single TCP/IP stack can communicate with itself. Yes. over TCP/IP? It appears

Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread John McKown
Yes, I am reading the book on Metal C. But I often appreciate other peoples' opinions and ideas. So I'm just asking. I am porting some C code to z/OS (nedit thread on MVS-OE). I need to be able to do z/OS enqueues and dequeues. I don't see any C subroutine to do this. So I need to write

Re: Reflexivity

2014-03-25 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: A single TCP/IP stack can communicate with itself. Yes. over TCP/IP? It appears to, although I suspect it short- circuits the path. localhost mapping to loopback ip address 127.0.0.1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost special-use domain

JCL statements CNTL/ENDCNTL

2014-03-25 Thread Bill Ashton
Hi friends! I just had a new colleague ask me about using CNTL/ENDCNTL statements in JCL, and I was at a loss. Even after looking it up, I really can't see why I would use them. Has anyone had experience with these statements, and can give a couple real-world examples of how to use them? Is it

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2014-03-25 13:29, John McKown wrote: Yes, I am reading the book on Metal C. But I often appreciate other peoples' opinions and ideas. So I'm just asking. I am porting some C code to z/OS (nedit thread on MVS-OE). I need to be able to do z/OS enqueues and dequeues. I don't see any C

Re: JCL statements CNTL/ENDCNTL

2014-03-25 Thread Sri h Kolusu
CNTL - Specifies the beginning of program control statements for the printer. Examples : http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/apss9400/9.2.1 Kolusu IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 03/25/2014 10:53:39 AM: From: Bill Ashton

Re: JCL statements CNTL/ENDCNTL

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:13:42 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: CNTL - Specifies the beginning of program control statements for the printer. Examples : http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/apss9400/9.2.1 I wonder why they chose to invent new syntax rather than using an instream data

Wrapping it up

2014-03-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Just a final word about purchasing our course materials. Sunday March 30 will be the last day we offer our course materials for sale at our standard price of USD 2000 per course day (with a 15% discount if you order 10 or more days of training in a single order). After that, the sale pages will

Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Ed Finnell
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help?ocid=xp_eos_clie nt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Scott Ford
John: I have to look but can you do : __asm ….inline Regards, Scott From: John McKown Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎March‎ ‎25‎, ‎2014 ‎1‎:‎29‎ ‎PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Yes, I am reading the book on Metal C. But I often appreciate other peoples' opinions and ideas. So I'm just

STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I'm looking at the STOW description in: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad500/d5166.htm This gives the Member List Format for several directory actions, but not, AFAICT, for Add or Replace. Where can I find this information. Is there a data area macro

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread John McKown
But that's only in Metal C, if I'm reading it correctly. I may do this for a learning experience. What I may learn is don't _do_ that! grin/ On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: John: I have to look but can you do : __asm ….inline Regards, Scott

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:57:16 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote: If you are already using LE and XPLINK for the nedit C code, then I'm not sure I see the benefit to writing a Metal C subroutine to do the ENQ/DEQ. The C code in this case will likely be mostly comprised of inline Assembler with the cryptic

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-03-25 20:32, Ed Finnell pisze: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help?ocid=xp_eos_clie nt I don't have Win XP on any of my LPARs. In fact I have never had any. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie

JFCB LBI Blocksize

2014-03-25 Thread Chris Cantrell
I have a COBOL program which flows through MVS storage areas to get the DSN, VOLSERs, etc. for any open DD. I am currently getting the LRECL and BLOCKSIZE from the JFCB area. I always get the LRECL. However, for LBI files ( 32k blocksize) I always get zero for the BLOCKSIZE. This doesn't

Re: STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
IHAPDS On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:03:49 -0500 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: :I'm looking at the STOW description in: : : http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad500/d5166.htm : :This gives the Member List Format for several directory actions, but not,

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 16:16, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if all the header files were trilingual? Assembler/PLS/Metal C? It'll take a while. Ugh, please. :-( There's nothing wrong with Metal C that a complete redesign wouldn't fix. But in any case, what would

Moved DASD - import catalog

2014-03-25 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
This is a theoretical exercise, and I'm a newbie, so please pardon me if this is basic stuff... Let's say I have a DASD volume on one system, and it has a user catalog on it for all the datasets on the volume, and I want to move this volume to a different system that knows nothing about it

Re: STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread John McKown
The closest that I can find is IHAPDS in SYS1.MODGEN. But you must expand it with PDSBLDL=NO. The default is YES. The first 8 bytes are the member name. The next 3 bytes are the TTR. The next byte is an indicator byte. Therefore the list must be at least 12 bytes. The number of bytes, up to 62,

DS6800 disk - was support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Pommier, Rex
No, but I have it on a PC front-ending my DS6800s. And from what I've been able to find, IBM doesn't officially support the DS Storage Manager for the DS6800s on anything more current than XP. So I have a question for the group. Is anybody out there running the DS Storage Manager for DS6800s

Re: Moved DASD - import catalog

2014-03-25 Thread Pommier, Rex
Multiple ways to do this. A couple that come to mind quickly are: 1. If the disk volume is completely contained on the single volume (ie the catalog only has datasets on this volume and all datasets on this volume are in this catalog) you could EXPORT DISCONNECT this catalog on the current

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Ed Gould
I have friends who bought a new PC and it came with windows 8. They went out and bought a license for XP and installed XP. People are doing this widespread as WINDOWS 8 (and 7 apparently) are HATED. Ed On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:24 PM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2014-03-25 20:32, Ed Finnell pisze:

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:32:43 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 25 March 2014 16:16, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if all the header files were trilingual? Assembler/PLS/Metal C? It'll take a while. Ugh, please. :-( There's nothing wrong with Metal C that a

Re: JFCB LBI Blocksize

2014-03-25 Thread Mike Schwab
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.idad400%2Fblksz.htm Do not use the BLKSIZE field in the DCB. The system uses it. Use the BLKSIZE field in the DCBE. For more information about DCBE field descriptions see z/OS DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets.

Re: DS6800 disk - was support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 20:48 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: And from what I've been able to find, IBM doesn't officially support the DS Storage Manager for the DS6800s on anything more current than XP. According to the Architecture and Implementation Redbook:

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-03-25 21:41, Ed Gould pisze: I have friends who bought a new PC and it came with windows 8. They went out and bought a license for XP and installed XP. People are doing this widespread as WINDOWS 8 (and 7 apparently) are HATED. And the relationship to the IBM-MAIN topic is ? --

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 16:56, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: But in any case, what would you do to allow PL/X and C to pick out their own code? The assembler vs PL/X or C comment format makes it easy, but both PL/X and C have /* comments */ . #if ? But how will both PL/X and assembler not

Re: Moved DASD - import catalog

2014-03-25 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/25/2014 03:54 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: Multiple ways to do this. A couple that come to mind quickly are: 1. If the disk volume is completely contained on the single volume (ie the catalog only has datasets on this volume and all datasets on this volume are in this catalog) you could

Re: DS6800 disk - was support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Pommier, Rex
W2K server is dead and gone. Mainstream support for W2K3 is over and extended support ends 7/14/2015. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:53:50 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 25 March 2014 16:56, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: But in any case, what would you do to allow PL/X and C to pick out their own code? The assembler vs PL/X or C comment format makes it easy, but both PL/X and C have /*

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 18:11, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: #if ? But how will both PL/X and assembler not see it? That's their problem. Perhaps AGO for assembler. And hasn't PL/X something similar? Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug your shoulders

Re: DS6800 disk - was support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Mar 2014 14:37:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 20:48 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: And from what I've been able to find, IBM doesn't officially support the DS Storage Manager for the DS6800s on anything more current than XP. According to the Architecture

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/25/2014 04:50 PM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2014-03-25 21:41, Ed Gould pisze: I have friends who bought a new PC and it came with windows 8. They went out and bought a license for XP and installed XP. People are doing this widespread as WINDOWS 8 (and 7 apparently) are HATED. And the

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:38:14 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug your shoulders when asked for how it might work. Actually, I can. That's an implementation technique. Suppose a Requirement for trilingual macros were to be submitted to

Metal C generating junk for long input lines?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
Speaking of Metal C, I'm seeing a strange thing just recently. My C input is a VB 255 PDSE member, and the output is an FB 80 PDSE member. Whenever an input line exceeds 80 characters, the output assembler source has a bogus line with unprintable characters where the wrapped part of the original C

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 19:03, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug your shoulders when asked for how it might work. Actually, I can. That's an implementation technique. Suppose a Requirement for trilingual macros were to

Re: STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread Bill Godfrey
The PDF file for that same V2R1 manual has more information than the original link, but not a mapping macro. See the 380th page (which has page number 354). http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/DGT3D500.pdf Or if the V1R13 manual will do, here is a link to the

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 19:15:45 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Sigh. By the same token asking for trilingual macros is an implementation technique. What is the business problem you want IBM to address? Perhaps shipping mappings for all three languages, with identical names and such? Then maybe IBM can

Re: STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread retired mainframer
That url points to SC23-6852-00. There is a -01 online but it doesn't have it either. Seems worth an RCF. FWIW, the 1.11 version of the manual, SC26-7408-08, does have it. I wonder why they deleted it. I also wonder what changing from SC26 to SC23 signifies. :: -Original Message- ::

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-25 Thread retired mainframer
:: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht :: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:06 AM :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :: Subject: Re: Which fonts are being actually used? :: :: Timothy Sipples wrote: ::

Re: STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:28:00 -0700, retired mainframer wrote: That url points to SC23-6852-00. There is a -01 online but it doesn't have Hmmm ... Is there a simple technique for accessing the latest revision of docs for a given OS release? Should I bookmark the root? it either. Seems worth

Re: STOW member list format?

2014-03-25 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:49:04 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:28:00 -0700, retired mainframer wrote: That url points to SC23-6852-00. There is a -01 online but it doesn't have Hmmm ... Is there a simple technique for accessing the latest revision of docs for a given OS

Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi I am allocating a dataset in a Rex exec using the following syntax Alloc fi(myddnam) da('my.pds.name(member)') shr I get an error routine not found Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 21:50, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: Alloc fi(myddnam) da('my.pds.name(member)') shr I get an error routine not found You are calling a REXX function named my.pds.name(member) which presumably is not what you intended. Why do you have those inner double quotes?

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread David Crayford
On 26/03/2014 4:32 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 25 March 2014 16:16, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if all the header files were trilingual? Assembler/PLS/Metal C? It'll take a while. Ugh, please. :-( There's nothing wrong with Metal C that a complete redesign

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:50:10 -0400, Micheal Butz wrote: Hi I am allocating a dataset in a Rex exec using the following syntax Alloc fi(myddnam) da('my.pds.name(member)') shr I get an error routine not found I believe the parentheses surrounding (member) need to be quoted lest my.pds.name be

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
What are the variables? is member a var? ALLOC FI(MYDDNAM) DA('MY.PDS.NAME(MEMBER)') SHR Or ALLOC FI(MYDDNAM) DA('MY.PDS.NAME(member)' ) SHR If you are using ISPF to edit the REXX turn on HILITE to REXX and have I color the code for you. And if you have not done so, there is a TSO-REXX

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2014-03-25 22:11, David Crayford wrote: I find that I rarely need Metal/C. What I do want to do is inline assembler into LE code. I have found Metal to be useful in a few situations where it is desirable to have a self-contained program with inline Assembler and no dependencies on the LE

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 03/25/2014 04:50 PM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2014-03-25 21:41, Ed Gould pisze: I have friends who bought a new PC and it came with windows 8. They went out and bought a license for XP and installed XP. People are doing this widespread as WINDOWS

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:08:05 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 25 March 2014 21:50, Micheal Butz wrote: Alloc fi(myddnam) da('my.pds.name(member)') shr I get an error routine not found You are calling a REXX function named my.pds.name(member) which presumably is not what you intended. Why do you

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread David Crayford
On 26/03/2014 12:25 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:08:05 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 25 March 2014 21:50, Micheal Butz wrote: Alloc fi(myddnam) da('my.pds.name(member)') shr I get an error routine not found You are calling a REXX function named my.pds.name(member) which