I suggest investigating the CALLBACKANY compiler option.
On 17/07/2012, at 8:13 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Does anyone know the answer to this?
I have an assembler function whose address I know at run-time in C++. I
define and store it like this
void __cdecl
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I suggest investigating the CALLBACKANY compiler option.
On 17/07/2012, at 8:13 AM, Charles Mills charl
Don't hipster programmers prefer JSON these days? XML too verbose.
On 24/07/2012, at 11:30 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
wrote:
OK, remember that I'm a bit of a UNIX bigot for some things. But I was
wondering if anybody else thinks it would be helpful to have a program
On 31/07/2012 12:09 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 7/24/2012 9:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:05:00 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
:Why have such a special list rather than merely verifying that the
program
:resides in an APF authorized library and was linked with AC=1?
On 22/08/2012 1:48 PM, ibmmain wrote:VERYONE has a story about a PDSE
that failed on them in 1995.
1995? As recent as 2009 in our case, IIRC. Thankfully not load module libraries in
linklist. Admittedly 'weird' PDSEs with recfm=VB. Response by IBM when reported as a
problem: You didn't have
I consider C++ a much safer language than C, wrt to both string handling
and memory management. In fact, I find it difficult to fathom why anybody
would still write C code when C++ is such a superior language. Strong
typing alone is worth the effort.
Memory leaks in C++ code are almost always
://dovetail.com
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:11 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
In fact, I find it difficult to fathom why anybody
would still write C code when C++ is such a superior language.
I seem to recall some fella named
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On 18/09/2012, at 8:21 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:11 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
In fact, I find it difficult to fathom why anybody
would still write C code when C++ is such a superior language.
I seem to recall some fella named Torvalds
On 21/09/2012 12:09 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
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The only way I know is to put the socket into non-blocking mode, use
select() and then put it back into blocking mode once connected.
Just out of interest why do you want to use blocking sockets?
On 23/09/2012 8:22 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
X-posted to IBMTCP, MVS-OE, and IBMMAIN.
I asked
I don't know of any examples but I should imagine it's as simple of
starting POSIX C stub threads that call COBOL programs. If you want to
use shared data structures and use
mutexes or condvars in the COBOL programs then you will have to either
create COBOL records to map the DSECTS or write
While there is no doubt patents are important for protecting valid inventions
the majority of software related patents are a joke. Some try to claim
mathematical facts as prior art. I see patents as nothing more than trading
cards for the big corporations.
They seem less relevant in today's
On 26/09/2013 12:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:20:49 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
P.S., in the networking world, it is called a port number.
Errr...no. Port numbers are relatively static, and the port numbers for
Well Known Services are likely to be defined in
On 30/09/2013 2:11 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)#History
There is no doubt that Ada is a much, much better programming language
then PL/I, C, COBOL etc. It's lack of popularity is probably due to
the substantial inertia of it's peers, ala
On 1/10/2013 5:11 AM, Robert Prins wrote:
On 2013-09-30 16:40, Mike Schwab wrote:
Pascal is like an improved PL/I, Ada is an improved Pascal.
I would rather say that Pascal is a very inferior copy of PL/I.
I would have to humbly disagree. Pascals type system alone is far
superior. I
On 1/10/2013 7:13 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:21:15 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
I programmed in PL/I
professionally and IMO Pascal is a far cleaner language with more
expressive features. Pascals successors, such as Module/2 and Delphi,
widen the gap even more.
I would
On 1/10/2013 7:23 PM, Thomas Berg wrote:
Personally I am of the opinion that a programming language is for the benefit of the
programmer, to be least hindered in the coding.
It should help the coding and minimize both syntax pondering and keystrokes.
A programming language should not have a
On 1/10/2013 7:51 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
David Crayford wrote
begin extract
I programmed in PL/I professionally and IMO Pascal is a far cleaner
language with more expressive features
end extract/
and this is a sentiment that I marvel at. I view Pascal as a toy, a
pedagogic language animated
On 1/10/2013 7:41 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
If I take REXX as an example, although it has its limitations and rough edges,
it have 4 important advantages IMHO:
1. It lives up the principle of least astonishment in syntax.
2. Its functionality and syntax is oriented towards the end goal of the
On 1/10/2013 8:23 PM, Thomas Berg wrote:
True, but:
0. I used it as an example of syntax and principles.
1. As I often compile it and if necessary optimize at a high level/use an
external tool I seldom have problems with that. (To where did you port what ?
Curious if z/OS...)
Yes. I
On 1/10/2013 8:46 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:52:12 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
Taking the p**s again Shane! ;-)
Sorry ? - what do you mean, again.
FWIW, Perl 6 seems to have smoothed out a lot of the rough edges.
Never having bothered with Perl, I attended a Linux
On 3/10/2013 3:35 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
IBM has reportedly become more interested in LLVM for z:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTM1MTc
and has contributed some patches to the LLVM project (at least for C/C++
compilers):
Support is important if a customers wants to run open source in
production. But that hasn't stopped the masses. Just look at Linux
and just about every important piece of software of the last decade or
so. It's a tangible idea, but needs to be backed by paid support
just like Rocket are doing
On 3/10/2013 11:04 PM, David Griffiths wrote:
On 3 October 2013 15:33, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
Support is important if a customers wants to run open source in production.
But that hasn't stopped the masses. Just look at Linux
and just about every important piece of software
On 3/10/2013 11:47 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
The mainframe has massive applications that if they go down the amount of
time to recover the application and/or fix it could take many hours/days
that costs the business income. Or cause an LPAR wide outage that affects
many more working
On 3/10/2013 11:59 PM, Steve Conway wrote:
David said, To me it's a no-brainer but convincing mainframers to step
outside of their comfort zone is difficult.
I have to disagree, partly, with that.
In the course of my career, I have been forced repeatedly to learn spiffy
new things. As I
On 4/10/2013 12:15 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
I think that guarantees are less important than would be an
established process for fixing, promptly, something that proves to be
broken.
There are a very few people whose I guarantee this app will work I
would give great weight to, without perhaps
On 4/10/2013 8:31 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Good thread.
I like Kirks ideas, but I can't see it flying. IIRC even Dave has alluded to
employer resistance to releasing his efforts on the Lua port.
The issue wrt me releasing Lua is because of our contract with IBM. I
work for a vendor who
.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:27 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/10/2013 8:31 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Good thread.
I like Kirks ideas, but I can't see it flying. IIRC even Dave has alluded
to employer resistance to releasing his efforts on the Lua port.
The issue wrt me
On 4/10/2013 12:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 16:57:13 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
I think I rather prefer Python.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire. The fact that the indentation
level is significant can make things interesting when editing a
program.
I
On 4/10/2013 1:03 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
Unfortunately, as many of you have pointed out in this thread, IBM/CA/BMC software is seen as the
premium choice for Systems Automation software, even though feature-for-feature, and
cost-wise we have them well and truly beaten. In some ways, the
On 4/10/2013 5:30 PM, David Griffiths wrote:
On 4 October 2013 06:03, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote:
Unfortunately, as many of you have pointed out in this thread, IBM/CA/BMC software is
seen as the premium choice for Systems Automation software, even though
On 4/10/2013 4:53 PM, David Griffiths wrote:
On 4 October 2013 04:15, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not one iota interested in compiling in ASCII. I've tried that before
and it's full of holes. I always end up having to manually covert code pages
to do simple stuff like write
On 4/10/2013 8:31 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
A couple of years ago our shop decided to standardize on Python for non-mainframe application
development, so I've written a fair amount of Python since then. My experience is that using
indentation to control structure becomes second-nature very
On 6/10/2013 9:31 AM, Ed Gould wrote:
While gaining real-world skills, students will be introduced to the
vital role that the mainframe plays in mobile, cloud, and analytics,
and they'll learn about our recent integration with the OpenStack
cloud computing framework.
I can't see OpenStack
On 6/10/2013 12:30 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 11:53:40 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
I can't see OpenStack ever taking off on the mainframe. It's open source
software written in the Python programming language. Who on earth is
going to risk their job using something like
On 6/10/2013 2:10 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:35:31 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
Of course, OpenStack is the new replacement for zManager
H
http://www.zmanager.org/
I didn't sign up for that but it looks cool! This one is more pertinent
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com
On 6/10/2013 2:56 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Interesting that VMWare don't see Openstack as an option (competitor) for the
enterprise, despite them also investing in it.
quote
VMware invest in rockstar developers and do very well from it. GoPivitol
must be the biggest startup in history.
The
On 6/10/2013 3:30 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:04:44 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
The word is that OpenStack is years behind similar technology used by
the likes of Amazon, Rackspace, Google.
I dropped in on VMWorld on the way back from Share - bit of an eye-opener from
at 11:53 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/10/2013 9:31 AM, Ed Gould wrote:
While gaining real-world skills, students will be introduced to the vital
role that the mainframe plays in mobile, cloud, and analytics, and they'll
learn about our recent integration
I know I probably don't belong in such elite company as the doyens of this
list. My parents were poor, simple folks who couldn't afford to send me to a
good school to learn Latin.
On 06/10/2013, at 11:42 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Some part of David Crayford's problem here is
I was being sarcastic Timothy! I thought that was obvious but in future
I will remember to use a smiley or use sarcasm tags.
I do know a thing or two about open source on z/OS.
On 7/10/2013 9:34 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
David Crayford opines:
I can't see OpenStack ever taking off
On 7/10/2013 7:25 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:04:57 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
I know I probably don't belong in such elite company as the doyens of this list.
My parents were poor, simple folks who couldn't afford to send me to a good
school to learn Latin.
Dave, Dave
I'm running a test case for one of our products that's currently in
development and I can't figure out how to account for the total CPU time
for a Java program that executes a DB2 query.
I've got four steps running the same query in different programming
languages. The step statistics are
On 8/10/2013 9:05 PM, Clark Morris wrote:
On 7 Oct 2013 15:49:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Heads up. According to the website - 4 weeks to launch:
New IBM Support Portal design coming soon!
The IBM Support Portal will soon have a new look. Our clients have been
telling us
On 8/10/2013 9:47 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
The misjudgment consisted in choosing edge servers initially. This
facility should have been implemented on a mainframe, where adequate
availability is a given.
I have serious concerns about the capability of the people running IBMs
web
On 9/10/2013 7:43 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
He then turns to extolling the reliability and availability of blade
servers, and here we disagree. Whatever their other deficiencies may
be, mainframes are much more available and reliable. Interestingly,
this is the case not because mainframe
On 9 Oct 2013, at 9:16 pm, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
As usual with you, this has become ad hominem.with irrelevance mixed
in. I should have been quite willing to stipulate that human errors
can occur in the management of a computer system (or a cutlery
drawer), but they were
And Linux has the excellent valgrind. We had talks with IBM wrt porting purify
to z/OS but nothing came of it. Unfortunately, the z/OS tools are expensive and
buggy. DebugTool stands out as one of the worst products I've ever used.
On 11/10/2013, at 5:47 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org
the jobname from the
parent process.
SMF30JBN... 'BENCHSQL' SMF30PGM... 'BPXPRECP'
Thanks for you help
On 8 October 2013 13:00, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm running a test case for one of our products that's currently in
development and I can't figure out how to account
I'm pleased it tickled you! I give you +1 for perfectly picking the
bidialectal twist ;-) .
On 10/10/2013 2:59 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
My word you really do spit the dummy old chap has made my day.
It is a delightful example of a perhaps not quite current Australian
idiom---'spit the dummy'
On 15/10/2013 4:21 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
How great to finally have government information systems built by
hipsters
Hardly hipsters. The project was outsourced to CGI Federal :). There are
certainly parallels here with gov.uk, but gov.uk has been a resounding
success.
It's a bit like one
Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15/10/2013 4:21 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
How great to finally have government information systems built by
hipsters
Hardly hipsters. The project was outsourced to CGI Federal
On 16/10/2013 11:51 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
Since NoSQL seems to be reigning supreme, I decided to study MongoDB which was
both recommended by a friend (a PM who is managing an actual project with that
stuff) and is the most popular NoSQL engine out there according to
On 16/10/2013 2:21 AM, John Norgauer wrote:
See how wonderful and simple Obamanocare is:
http://1.usa.gov/acamess.
That's brilliant! The best laugh I've had all day. I've got to give
credit to the Republican party - if you're gonna create an obfuscated
graphic then do it in style!
Good site. The authors idea of legacy, Java, J2EE etc is probably a tad
different to our world.
On 16/10/2013, at 8:13 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
http://typicalprogrammer.com/?p=249
The author is a self employed fixer who is generally called in to help a
company
On 17/10/2013 1:59 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
I had a look at the website and it looks great. I love the minimalism, very
modern.
All the knockers that are complaining that it looks like a GoDaddy parked
domain
page haven't got a clue about good UI design.
Knockers. GoDaddy. Heh...
Most of the
The brainiacs over at google have invented a novel hybrid data base for
their Ads business http://research.google.com/pubs/pub38125.html. It
supports hierarchical schemas.
Quote With F1, we have built a novel hybrid system that combines the
scalability, fault tolerance, transparent sharding,
On 17/10/2013 8:24 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 525f3848.5040...@gmail.com, on 10/17/2013
at 09:07 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
Most of the articles I've read about healthcare.gov criticise the
design of the website for being old fashioned
Tufte should write
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of David Crayford
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Google F1 was: Re: MongoDB
The brainiacs over at google have invented a novel hybrid data base for their
Ads business http://research.google.com/pubs
On 18/10/2013 4:26 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
News today:
After bragging about using and contributing open source,
healthcare.govviolated a open source license for a popular javascript
UI toolkit:
there.
Approval would have been
the first cab of the rank.
I believe the article. It was easy enough to verify and if not true it
would have been easy to refute, which hasn't
Has anybody verified it?
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, David
On 18/10/13 22:30, Kirk Wolf wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe the article. It was easy enough to verify and if not true it
would have been easy to refute, which hasn't
Has anybody verified it?
Check it out:
https
On 25/10/2013 10:04 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
Hi all
Is there currently a way to access MongoDB from z/OS LE languages?
It should be simple enough to build a client. There are many
http://docs.mongodb.org/ecosystem/drivers/. Of course, that's for accessing
MongoDB running off the mainframe. I'm
On 25/10/2013 10:29 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
Assuming I use my experience in porting Open Source C libraries to the
mainframe and import the MongoDB C driver and compile it successfully, my main
issue would then be, as usual, the pesky EBCDIC. When working on the PCRE
library, there was
On 25/10/2013 10:58 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
It should be simple enough to build a client. There are many
http://docs.mongodb.org/ecosystem/drivers/. Of course, that's for accessing
MongoDB running off the mainframe. I'm interested to know why you would
want to do that?
I have no intention on
On 25/10/2013 12:28 PM, Tony Harminc wrote:
On 24 October 2013 23:49, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com wrote:
About a previous post, the endianess should not be a big issue to deal with
once the two sides of the protocol are well defined. The EBCDIC issue is a
make or break issue. MongoDB
with a NoSQL
data base which has a very specific API.
Why not just use the MongoDB Java API? Does JDBC provide some kind of
value add?
Rob
Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25/10/2013 12:28 PM, Tony
:03 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25/10/2013 1:51 PM, Rob Schramm wrote:
With a JDBC driver and a bit of JAVA code..you could use the COBOL/JAVA
procedure BCDBATCH to help tie the two together. Did a quick scan and
there appear to be at least few JDBC drivers.
I'm scratching
On 27/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
Is SQL really that much better then native APIs? In the
case of your typical key/value data store surely get/set is easier than
SELECT FROM WHERE/UPDATE SET IN etc.
My short answer would be YES!
I disagree. One of the reasons for choosing a NoSQL
On 27/10/2013 6:50 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 1461078175079083.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/26/2013
at 09:28 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said:
The issue is that if you provide a binary for IBM-1047 it surely
won't work on a IBM-1026 Turkish or Greek or any
Locale can be set by environment variable. It's not a compile time option. The
stock regex engines handle locales on z/OS.
On 27 Oct 2013, at 9:00 pm, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Why can't it test for locale?
because they do not have C and cannot build it.
for me, to change the
On 28/10/2013 11:39 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
David Crayford writes:
I'm not aware of any previous requirement for a mainframe
COBOL program to access a data base running on a different
platform.
That's fairly common. To pick an example, Oracle offers a product called
Oracle Access Manager
On 29/10/2013 4:04 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:
But I now see from what Mr. Gilmore has been saying that I am perhaps
wanting too much from a computer language. I will need to depend on the
programmer actually doing the proper things in all of his/her
programs. So
that when I use chorizo in English
On 29/10/2013 4:47 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
David Crayford writes:
I wonder if there is a market for mainframe legacy applications to
access NoSQL data stores?
Of course. Case in point: the IBM DB2 Analytics Accelerator. The PureData
System for Analytics which powers the IDAA
On 29/10/2013 8:48 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
What is a significant, relevant example of a subset implementation of
Unicode?
I'm guessing that John is referring to UTF-32 or UTF-16 and subsets
would be encodings with fewer bits.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe
On 29/10/2013 5:37 AM, Gerhard Adam wrote:
As for Google and many of these other companies, they are certainly
adequate for the markets they are in, what what technology are they
exploiting? Are they demonstrably cheaper to run? Do they require
less staff? In short, what is the basis for
On 29/10/2013 11:23 PM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:47:19 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Lynn Wheeler's numbers are arithmetically correct, but they are also
problematic.
Mainframe channels perform multiple concurrent I/O operations that are
not adequately reflected in them.
And
On 30/10/2013 3:01 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
I've recently been writing web servers using Lua/Orbit.
From the reports I've read there doesn't seem to be any particular problem
compiling Lua on z/OS (via make posix). As mentioned previously, if you
want to operate on EBCDIC data there might be
On 30/10/2013 9:55 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
At 10/30/2013 09:40 AM, John McKown wrote:
Being a Linux bigot (only use Windows at work), I am wondering if
there is
any documentation on SPFPRO or other ISPF-like environments. In
particular,
do these products emulate all of ISPF or only the ISPF
On 30/10/2013 10:11 PM, Jim Marshall wrote:
There is a NetworkWorld story which is worth a read revealing some of the
problems. Much thanks to Compuware using some of its Application Performance
Monitoring tools to uncover certain things. It is worth it to click on the
gentleman's Blog for
You speak with great authority about this Timothy. Do you have any
real world experience with open source and porting to z/OS?
On 31/10/2013 1:35 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
Shmuel Metz writes:
...z/OS does require EBCDIC.
It does not (if referring to ported applications), and repeating a
On 4/11/2013 4:49 PM, Rob Scott wrote:
I also think the uptake of PLO would be greater if there were some decent
example code in the manuals - for instance a client adding a request to the
tail of the queue whilst a server is removing from the head.
Maybe somebody with expertise should blog
On 5/11/2013 8:01 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 11:33:12 +, DASDBILL2 wrote:
Every young person contemplating a mainframe career should spend a week reading
IBM-Main. Maybe they do and that’s another reason why the profession is dying.
That's a bit close to the bone.
On 6/11/2013 5:40 AM, Mark Post wrote:
Now if you want to point a finger at some things in Linux that really, really
could use improvement, let's talk about diagnostic instrumentation in the
operating system, as well as much better data for performance management. The
latter particularly is
On 6/11/2013 12:37 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
I do of course agree that z/OS is perceived to be boring, but that is
another question.
I don't think it's perceived as boring, certainly it's perceived as user
hostile. Take Pauls cp command example, it's easy to copy files
using a simple command.
On 6/11/2013 8:31 AM, Jon Perryman wrote:
For security, the ones I know about are LDAP, RSA.and standard UNIX security
model. I suspect there are others in the GRC field.
Your forgot kerberos, probably the most significant. z/OS supports LDAP
(Tivoli) and kerberos and so it should. It has to
On 6/11/2013 10:33 AM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
On 11/5/2013 7:26 PM, David Crayford wrote:
I don't think it's perceived as boring, certainly it's perceived as user
hostile. Take Pauls cp command example, it's easy to copy files
using a simple command. For those that prefer GUIs they can drag
On 6/11/2013 11:31 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 08:18:39 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
On 6/11/2013 5:40 AM, Mark Post wrote:
Now if you want to point a finger at some things in Linux that really, really
could use improvement, let's talk about diagnostic instrumentation
JCL is neither simple or powerful. It's a piece of poorly designed junk that
should never have made GA. Even it's original implementers admit that it's
rubbish. Try explaining the reverse logic of condition codes to a youngster and
they will die laughing.
Hey, how do I do a loop in this code?
On 6 Nov 2013, at 11:32 pm, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 22:45:01 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
JCL is neither simple or powerful. It's a piece of poorly designed junk that
should never have made GA. Even it's original implementers admit that it's
rubbish
On 7/11/2013 7:22 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
On 6 November 2013 18:02, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does anyone actually run X-Windows on z/OS? Seems to me GUI things such as the
Explorer tools, the Debug Tool (and other Productivity Tools) GUI, etc., and
even RDz could be
On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:47 am, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
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On 7/11/2013 10:10 AM, Don Poitras wrote:
In article 4212144266386912.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu you wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:02:48 -0800, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
Does anyone actually run X-Windows on z/OS?? Seems to me GUI things such as the
Explorer tools, the Debug Tool (and
On 7/11/2013 2:32 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:06:39 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote:
JCL not having loop capabilities has nothing to do with rewinding card readers.
*I* believe he was being facetious.
Yes! I do have a propensity for being flippant.
IIRC, Brooks regretted
On 11/11/2013 5:19 AM, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 19:47:35 GMT, esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com wrote:
I have been reading and following this thread sine PLO is not an instruction I
use every day.
It would be nice if someone would actually post some working code using a PLO
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 19:47:35 GMT, esst
On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:22 pm, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
What are bakery style ticketing algorithms? Take-a-number schemes?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamport's_bakery_algorithm
Googling bakery style landed me among recipes/receipts for
chocolate-chip cookies and cupcakes
that link in my iPhone. Here's the original.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamport%27s_bakery_algorithm
Bill Fairchild
Franklinm, TN
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