Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-02 Thread Feller, Paul
l-# in HCD and things connected up properly. Here are a few other thoughts on the subject of the base sysplex setup. I can understand the idea of trying to save money. We all have to deal with management wanting not to spend money. So you do what you can with what you have. The idea of usin

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread R.S.
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Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-02 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:19:16 +, Feller, Paul wrote: > We found out the hard way when we converted off of FICON switches you need to > code a serial number in the control unit definition to make > the connection work properly. > Does lack of a serial number really prevent these from

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Allan Staller
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Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Edgington, Jerry
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Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Allan Staller
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Brian, 1. If you haven't

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Allan Staller
I can speak from experience. GRS Ring performance sucks with even 2 LPARs compared to GRS STAR. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [CAUTION

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Mike Wawiorko
KB, The question is about sysplex signalling by XCF. It is not about TCPIP networking. XCF does not use TCPIP protocols. SMC-D/R are for TCP networking HiperSockets is for IP networking Mike Wawiorko -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of kekronbekron

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread R.S.
Staller wrote: See the manuals "Setting up a SYSPLEX" and "Merging Systems Into A SYSPLEX". Both can be found on the IBM zOS Library site. Some key items not available in a base sysplex: GRS START (use CTC for inter-image communication. VTAM Generic resources, VTAM MNPS RAC

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
Brian, 1. If you haven't also looked at IBM Publication No. SB10-7174 yet, I'd refer you to that one ("IBM Z FICON Channel-to-Channel Reference"). I believe you've found SG24-5451 already. 2. You might not need additional FICON Express features at all. It depends on how you're set up, but

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
, 2020 12:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup It's all about the cost. Especially right now, there is just no money to put into the box. If we knew for sure that the software CF would only take 1MSU or less, then we would do it in a heartbeat, but it's a base model

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
t; To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup > > It's all about the cost. Especially right now, there is just no money to put > into > the box. If we knew for sure that the software CF would only take 1MSU or > less, then we would do it in a heartbeat, but it's a ba

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread Brian Westerman
D/R or >HiperSockets or one of those ICA-SR (or whatever it's called) connectors IF 2 >machines are involved. > > >- KB > >‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >On Monday, June 1, 2020 6:29 PM, Allan Staller wrote: > >> See the manuals "Setting up a SYS

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread Brian Westerman
we know it's poor configuration. Old machine, small one. >So, what is the reason for Sysplex? What goal to achieve? >Sysplex takes some CPU, so for "pretty close to maxed out" CPC it is not >very fine. >IMHO it would be reasonable to consider purchase second hand CPC as &

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread kekronbekron
als "Setting up a SYSPLEX" and "Merging Systems Into A SYSPLEX". > Both can be found on the IBM zOS Library site. > Some key items not available in a base sysplex: > > GRS START (use CTC for inter-image communication. > VTAM Generic resources, VTAM MNPS > RACF

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread Allan Staller
See the manuals "Setting up a SYSPLEX" and "Merging Systems Into A SYSPLEX". Both can be found on the IBM zOS Library site. Some key items not available in a base sysplex: GRS START (use CTC for inter-image communication. VTAM Generic resources, VTAM MNPS RACF data s

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-01 Thread R.S.
one. So, what is the reason for Sysplex? What goal to achieve? Sysplex takes some CPU, so for "pretty close to maxed out" CPC it is not very fine. IMHO it would be reasonable to consider purchase second hand CPC as standalone CF and some cards. Of course the question about the goal

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-05-31 Thread Brian Westerman
The box isn't maxed out, but it's pretty close. It's a base z13s and no money to upgrade it. The cards are a cheap way to get by (they are under $400 with $0 increase in maintenance costs), whereas the cost of a CF is far greater. We can't use the software CF option (build a CF lpar without

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-05-31 Thread Mike Schwab
: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for information on how to set up a base SYSPLEX with only Ficon > CTC's that seem to be referred to as XCF CTC's. > > I'm sure someone had done this before and is probably doing it now for > Multiple LPARs that are running on the same processor CEC

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [EXTERNAL]

2020-05-31 Thread Feller, Paul
for communications. Thanks.. Paul Feller GTS Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [EXTERNAL] Hi Brian, When building a sysplex using

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-05-31 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi Brian, When building a sysplex using CTC's, each LPAR mist have connectivity to all of the other LPARS. If you have more than two LPARS, it gets complicated very fast. I've always had to get help from IBM for defining the CTC's in HCD. Once you have to connectivity defined, the rest

Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-05-31 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, I'm looking for information on how to set up a base SYSPLEX with only Ficon CTC's that seem to be referred to as XCF CTC's. I'm sure someone had done this before and is probably doing it now for Multiple LPARs that are running on the same processor CEC. Configuration help (parms etc

zOSMF on a SYSPLEX

2020-05-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Thank you for all your patience with me. Getting zOSMF up is a challenge at best in a MONOPLEX. In a SYSPLEX it is a bit of a terror. I had use ISH to chain thru OMVS and find the bbgzangl executable. Then modify the PATHS in the ANG1 and the SRV1 after more research than I care

Re: zOSMF in a Sysplex

2020-04-27 Thread Jousma, David
In order to share the files filesystem in read/write ( ie mounted to multiple systems at once) you have be in shared sysplex filesystem and the file system mounted rwshare. Otherwise the attempt to mount it in a second spot will fail. Of course, none if this applies if you mount/unmount

zOSMF in a Sysplex

2020-04-27 Thread Steve Beaver
I have zOSMF working in a MONOPLEX and that was a challenge to itself especially with RACF. It's time for a SYSPLEX. We have several PARMLIB's and the concatenation is all the same on all the LPAR's as is the PARMLIB suffix. The zFS for zOSMF is shared R/W, the Libery zFS os READONLY

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Thank-you all for your responses. Again the IBM-Main community shows it's strength. I think I'll be sticking with ECS at the moment. Much appreciated, Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
oet, Kees Vernooij KLM Information Services z/OS Systems Tel +31 6 10 14 58 78 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 24 April 2020 11:20 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS W dniu 23.04.2020 o 16:

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 23.04.2020 o 16:29, Peter Vander Woude pisze: Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using ECS for the shared catalogs (which is all of them). What is the recommended method for handling the catalogs in a parallel sysplex, ECS or VSAM RLS? What

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using ECS for the shared catalogs (which is all of them). What is the recommended method for handling the catalogs in a parallel sysplex, ECS or VSAM RLS? Thanks, Peter

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-23 Thread Art Gutowski
system in the sysplex, the associated catalog request will fail with return code RC4 and reason code RSN124. If a catalog is currently in either ECS mode or VVDS mode and is shared by a system that cannot support RLS for catalogs, the attempt to use the catalog in RLS mode will also fail

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-23 Thread Allan Staller
, April 23, 2020 9:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender.] Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using

Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-23 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using ECS for the shared catalogs (which is all of them). What is the recommended method for handling the catalogs in a parallel sysplex, ECS or VSAM RLS? Thanks, Peter

Re: Sysplex Maintenance and USS

2020-02-06 Thread Chris Parker
: Re: Sysplex Maintenance and USS In a read/write sysplex aware root file system, For file systems that come with the OS, we mount our filesystems as follows: /* IBM Liberty Imbedded MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.IBM.ZOS.') MOUNTPOINT('//usr/lpp/liberty_zos') MODE(READ) TYPE(ZFS

Re: Sysplex Maintenance and USS

2020-02-06 Thread Juan Escamilla
In a read/write sysplex aware root file system, For file systems that come with the OS, we mount our filesystems as follows: /* IBM Liberty Imbedded MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.IBM.ZOS.') MOUNTPOINT('//usr/lpp/liberty_zos') MODE(READ) TYPE(ZFS) PARM('AGGRFULL(99,1

Re: Sysplex Maintenance and USS

2020-02-05 Thread Bruce Hewson
Symlinks are you friend. Mount your product files to /$VERSION/usr/lpp/ etc the symlink ./usr/lpp/xxx to the required version mounted filesystem Hope that gives you pointers Regards Bruce -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Sysplex Maintenance and USS

2020-02-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
>So, how does one rollout maintenance in a sysplex one system at a time without >disrupting the ability to access these products? The way I do it for the links that weren't totally screwed up when I started here: at /usr/lpp I mount a 'links'-ZFS, i.e. /usr/lpp/java gets an OMVS. ZFS m

Sysplex Maintenance and USS

2020-02-05 Thread Chris Parker
Our USS file system tends to follow the one recommended in the USS Planning Guide. When we bring up a system in our sysplex with new maintenance, the VERSION root is mounted with all its related file systems. What I noticed today though, is that our product related file systems, which

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-02-03 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elaine Beal Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: DR Sysplex Procedure CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Thanks all. We were able to issue the start policy for the DR policy and all went well

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-02-03 Thread Elaine Beal
Thanks all. We were able to issue the start policy for the DR policy and all went well! till we got to the network :) Elaine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-01-27 Thread Elaine Beal
Thank you. I believe you may have hit on our issue. We're getting the in use for the LOGR which is not new and I am okay with that. I'm confident we're picking up the DR COUPLExx but we've never had the POLICY statement. We were planning on issuing the SETXCF START with the new policy name. The

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-01-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
These recommendations are culled from the procedure we've used for 20 years. -- With a new (empty) CFRM data set, you should not see any reference to the production policy. -- 'IN USE BY ANOTHER SYSPLEX' suggests that you are pointing to (a copy of) the prod version, not the DR version

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-01-23 Thread Elaine Beal
Unless we're picking up the wrong COUPLE member, the CFRM and XCF are pointing to the DR datasets -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-01-23 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
on 01/23/2020 12:39:56 PM: > From: Elaine Beal > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 01/23/2020 12:40 PM > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: DR Sysplex Procedure > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > To expand on this... > yes, we are just getting to the DR test:) >

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-01-23 Thread Michael Babcock
number, policy > but no new LOGR and WLM, using same as prod (on another machine) > > defined a new policy in DR CFRM > > We IPLd at the other site for DR and got the following- > > IXC248E COUPLE DATA SET dsname ON VOLSER volser FOR typename MAY BE IN > USE BY ANOTHER SYSPLEX. &

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2020-01-23 Thread Elaine Beal
the following- IXC248E   COUPLE DATA SET dsname ON VOLSER volser FOR typename MAY BE IN USE BY ANOTHER SYSPLEX. IXC247D   REPLY U to ACCEPT USE OR D TO DENY USE OF THE COUPLE DATA SET FOR typename. to which both are replied to with U ISG379E   GRS UNABLE TO CONNECT TO THE ISGLOCK STRUCTURE. VALIDATE

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Mike Schwab
IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of R Hey > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:51 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex > > > > Yes, HSM is used, but not installed/used during my tests. > >

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
.2 2.3 in the same sysplex > > Yes, HSM is used, but not installed/used during my tests. > I didn't do much with zos 2.3, didn't create new DS in CAT's, etc. > Just log'd on to TSO/SDSF to look at syslog. > Client is forced to use 1.13 due to their APP not supporting zos 22. They are &g

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread R Hey
Yes, HSM is used, but not installed/used during my tests. I didn't do much with zos 2.3, didn't create new DS in CAT's, etc. Just log'd on to TSO/SDSF to look at syslog. Client is forced to use 1.13 due to their APP not supporting zos 22. They are planning to upgrade it, but could take a while.

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Wayne Driscoll
On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 7:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex EXTERNAL EMAIL Until some shared resource breaks. Not saying it'll happen, but it might. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread R.S.
Out of curiosity: what is the reason? Why to connect 3 different system levels in one sysplex? It is unsupported - we know that. It is somehow hard. It is somehow risky - we are aware about that also . Why not upgrade 1.13 system to current one and then connect it to the sysplex? Yes, upgrade

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Lou Losee
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex > > I had build a new plex on zos 1.13, new CF, XCF CDS, SMS, RMM, RACF, Mcat, > etc, with only 1 LPAR in it. > IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 22 sysres/Mcat: OK IPL’d the same LPAR with > zos 23 sys

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
ecember 17, 2019 5:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex I had build a new plex on zos 1.13, new CF, XCF CDS, SMS, RMM, RACF, Mcat, etc, with only 1 LPAR in it. IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 22 sysres/Mcat: OK IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 23 sysres/Mcat

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** I had build a new plex on zos 1.13, new CF, XCF CDS, SMS, RMM, RACF, Mcat, etc, with only 1 LPAR in it. IPL’d the same LPAR

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread Brian Westerman
. Remember that the levels supported by 2.3 will be higher than 1.13, so you have to run at the levels that match between those two, but you obviously know about this as you are already running a mixed release sysplex. Let me know how it goes, Brian

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread R Hey
I had build a new plex on zos 1.13, new CF, XCF CDS, SMS, RMM, RACF, Mcat, etc, with only 1 LPAR in it. IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 22 sysres/Mcat: OK IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 23 sysres/Mcat: OK IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 22 sysres/Mcat: OK IPL’d the same LPAR with zos 1.13

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread Mike Shorkend
If you try and add an LPAR to a sysplex without having applied the relevant coexistence maintenance, you get a 082 wait state at IPL. See description below. If you try to add a system that is not even in the compatibility matrix, I would guess the same... 082 Explanation The system entering

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread Charles Mills
I am not at all an expert on Sysplex compatibility. I bring to the table only the knowledge of the IBM policy and years of experience with "how things work." I think the answer is very simple: it might work and it might not. Or, more correctly, it might IPL, and if it does, then ever

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread Parwez Hamid
Add to this the H/W and CFCC levels of the different systems. While the 'newest' release of z/OS in the Sysplex will support the highest level of the CFCC level in the Sysplex, does 1.13 support it? IBM normally tests up to n-2 levels/generations of OS and H/W. Combination of older levels MAY

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
Until some shared resource breaks. Not saying it'll happen, but it might. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 3:14

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-17 Thread Brian Westerman
I don't think there is any check for that. I believe that z/OS isn't that smart when it comes to figuring that stuff out, and actually I can't really think of a reason why it wouldn't work. Remember, just because IBM doesn't say they "support" something, doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-15 Thread Jim Elliott
Not only is z/OS 1.13 not supported in the same sysplex with z/OS 2.3, I am pretty sure it won’t work. Every release has sysplex changes which often (always?) require PTFs to the prior 2 releases to participate in the same sysplex. Even if no PTFs are required, I suspect z/OS checks to see

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-15 Thread R Hey
Thanks Mark, Yes, I know. My client is forced to use zos 1.13 for a while, they use it with with zos 2.2 in the same plex, which needs to be moved to zos 2.3. Cheers -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, December 15, 2019 6:59 PM, R Hey <00bb27d4e6cb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hi, > Has anybody used these 3 versions of zos in 1 sysplex (CF, SMS, HSM, Ucats, > etc ...) ? &

ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-15 Thread R Hey
Hi, Has anybody used these 3 versions of zos in 1 sysplex (CF, SMS, HSM, Ucats, etc ...) ? Cheers, Reza -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread scott Ford
s code, so from my perspective I > have handcuffs on on some designs. > > Scott > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 10:29 AM scott Ford wrote: > >> Kees, >> >> I deal with customers who have questions and as i stated I am not a >> Sysplex guy. >> Secondly,

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread scott Ford
handcuffs on on some designs. Scott On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 10:29 AM scott Ford wrote: > Kees, > > I deal with customers who have questions and as i stated I am not a > Sysplex guy. > Secondly, we are a ISV so we have help our customers and this one is huge. > The point it was their q

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
or a shared CF structure (or a shared Dasd dataset). Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: 28 November 2019 16:29 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysplex Kees, I deal with customers who have

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread scott Ford
Kees, I deal with customers who have questions and as i stated I am not a Sysplex guy. Secondly, we are a ISV so we have help our customers and this one is huge. The point it was their question. You can’t expect everyone to know what you know, everyone has a different frame of reference. Scott

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread Martin Packer
.EDU Date: 28/11/2019 14:17 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Sysplex Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Speculation on my part but it I suspect they heard the term data sharing and sysplex and assumed that data (in-memory) could be shared like a subpool (231 in this case CSA / ECSA) ac

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Speculation on my part but it I suspect they heard the term data sharing and sysplex and assumed that data (in-memory) could be shared like a subpool (231 in this case CSA / ECSA) across LPARs. Matt Hogstrom PGP key 0F143BC1 > On Nov 28, 2019, at 04:11, David Crayford wrote: > &g

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-28 Thread David Crayford
Sorry to nitpick Scott but "Sysplex" is a poor subject line for newsgroup thread! You should try to write more specific subject lines such as "Sharing storage subpools in a Sysplex" which makes it much easier to understand the context of threads. On 2019-11-28 12:33 AM,

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
2019 18:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysplex We use one of the system subpool SP 231 for holding messages we build from various ESMs. The customer asked if we could share SP231 across LPARs. My take was no because I understood sp231 was unique until each LPAR . Scott On Wed, Nov 27

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread Mark Jacobs
If you have a requirement to share messages across members of a sysplex, and the customer has a coupling facility, using notepad services might be something to look at. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieai600/oa3845078.htm Sent from ProtonMail

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread Laurence Chiu
ory. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Charles Mills > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 12:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysplex Each LPAR is from the OS's point of view another box on the other side of the computer room. (Yes, you can quibble with that but it is a good way of thinking about it for most practical purposes.) z/OS on LPAR A has almost no knowledge of or visibility

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread Charles Mills
:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysplex SP231 is a part of address space. It is virtual memory. LPAR is "hardware", so LPAR memory is real memory with no concepts like subpool, Common Area, PVT, etc. More: LPAR can host any operating system, including zLinux, which has

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread scott Ford
pts like subpool, > Common Area, PVT, etc. More: LPAR can host any operating system, > including zLinux, which has no address spaces, SP231, LPA, etc. > To repeat: NO z/OS MEMORY MAPPED TO PHYSICAL LPAR MEMORY CAN BE SHARED > IN SYSPLEX. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Pol

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread R.S.
/OS MEMORY MAPPED TO PHYSICAL LPAR MEMORY CAN BE SHARED IN SYSPLEX. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-11-27 o 18:03, scott Ford pisze: We use one of the system subpool SP 231 for holding messages we build from various ESMs. The customer asked if we could share SP231 across LPAR

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread scott Ford
> > > Scott > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:56 AM Allan Staller > > wrote: > > > >> Each LPAR has their own. > >> > >> SYSPLEX does not share (virtual or real) storage. > >> Selected information is shared by XCF using CTC

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread David Spiegel
ross LPARs. > My take was no because I understood sp231 was unique until each LPAR . > > Scott > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:56 AM Allan Staller > wrote: > >> Each LPAR has their own. >> >> SYSPLEX does not share (virtual or real) storage. >> Selecte

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread scott Ford
has their own. > > SYSPLEX does not share (virtual or real) storage. > Selected information is shared by XCF using CTC or Coupling Facility. > > HTH, > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of scott Ford > Sent: Wednesday, Nov

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread Allan Staller
Each LPAR has their own. SYSPLEX does not share (virtual or real) storage. Selected information is shared by XCF using CTC or Coupling Facility. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 10:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-11-27 o 17:33, scott Ford pisze: I have a question related to storage subpool. If you running a sysplex do you share one set of subpool, I.e., sp 1 ,,etc. or does each LPAR have its own ? I assumed the later. I don't understand. In Sysplex there is no shared memory. In Parallel

Sysplex

2019-11-27 Thread scott Ford
I have a question related to storage subpool. If you running a sysplex do you share one set of subpool, I.e., sp 1 ,,etc. or does each LPAR have its own ? I assumed the later. Scott -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-17 Thread Rob Schramm
At one point, I had a setup that included a SITE system symbol in the CDSs for XCF and CFRM to auto-resolve such things Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:41 PM Elaine Beal wrote: > Yes, I would IPL with a different loadparm to point to COUPLExx with DR > XCF

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-17 Thread Elaine Beal
Yes, I would IPL with a different loadparm to point to COUPLExx with DR XCF and CFRM but WLM and LOGR would not change (use same ones as in current environment) In falling back, I would use the same current (not DR) XCF/CFRM/WLM/LOGR so I would use the same LOGR and WLM for DR and 'prod' no

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Are you talking LOGR and WLM CDS's in the couplexx member? if so as long as they are defined in the DR's COUPLExx member Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Elaine Beal" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:52:43 AM Subject: Re:

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-16 Thread Elaine Beal
So, both systems down IPL LPAR1 with new XCF and CFRM, use existing LOG and WLM files Will that cause an issue falling back? by using the same LOG and WLM files? Thanks, Elaine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-09 Thread Elaine Beal
Kees, thank you. I see that would not work and it would be better to have both systems down and IPL one at a time. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-09 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
"Do both LPARs need to be down (not desirable) before IPLing either of them with the new CF and XCF?" I would try to test the real situation as much as possible. Besides, I think it will not work. LPAR's don't join each other, they join a Sysplex. After ipling one system wi

DR Sysplex Procedure

2019-10-09 Thread Elaine Beal
We are planning to test a remote copy sysplex environment and I would like to test it in our home DEV environment PROD data will not be accessible during the DR test so PROD sysplex should not be affected To test in DEV I have defined a new XCF and CFRM since I will need to do that for DR

Re: hiw to create sysplex $SYSNAME

2019-09-08 Thread Prabhat Srivastava
Thanks everyone. We have Managed to create $SYSNAME using ish to map it to $SYSNAME/ but only after changing my OMVS home to sysplex root. Just a follow up question, is there a way we can protect users to default to System Root rather than SYSPLEX Root...e.e a user doing cd / should go

Re: hiw to create sysplex $SYSNAME

2019-09-05 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Here is an example of what we are using. VERSION('') SYSPLEX(YES) ROOT FILESYSTEM('OMVS.PPLEX01.ROOT') MODE(RDWR) TYPE(ZFS

Re: hiw to create sysplex $SYSNAME

2019-09-05 Thread Carmen Vitullo
there's some very good doc online 'setting up a sysplex' and samples in the samplib to create all the necessary symbolic links and examples of parmlib (BPXPRMxx) to use $VERSION and $SYSNAME. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Munif Sadek" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

hiw to create sysplex $SYSNAME

2019-09-05 Thread Munif Sadek
I can not find my syspex OMVS symbols $SYSNAME and $VERSION. Did IPL one of the system in the PLEX still not $SYSNAME $VERSION links. Does anyone know how to create it. regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Batch REXX, Consoles & SYSPLEX

2019-07-15 Thread Veryl Ellis
Problem resolved. I needed to tweak my IKJCNXAC exit to turn off bits that are on by default. Once I did an "NI" on that flag byte, the REXX Exec could process the CONSLE command while in a Sysplex. I guess those bits don't matter in a non-sysplex environment. Thanks for the help S. V

Re: Batch REXX, Consoles & SYSPLEX

2019-07-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Batch REXX, Consoles & SYSPLEX I have a REXX Exec that is run in a batch job, that is invoked from a MPF exit after the 'BPXI004I OMVS Initialization Complete' message is displayed. The REXX Exec determines what processor and LPAR it is in and is

Re: Batch REXX, Consoles & SYSPLEX

2019-07-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
NNAME#*) ... and look for possible >sysplex-wide conflicts ... Ah, yes. Thanks. It was a lng time ago I looked around in those GRS parmlib members. Seemed there is an ENQ on my last few brain cells... ;-) Groete / Greet

Re: Batch REXX, Consoles & SYSPLEX

2019-07-15 Thread Giliad Wilf
E=SYSZCNZ and RNAME=CONNAME#consolename. One has to issue... D GRS,RES=(SYSZCNZ,CONNAME#*) ...and look for possible sysplex-wide conflicts... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Batch REXX, Consoles & SYSPLEX

2019-07-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Veryl Ellis wrote: >The REXX Exec determines what processor and LPAR it is in and issues a >'CONSOLE ACTIVATE', 'CONSOLE SYSCMD... (to start the appropriate TCPIP)' and a >'CONSOLE DEACTIVATE'. Please post the full commands+keywords as used for these 3 CONSOLE. >IKJ55303I CONSOLE command

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