In
cae1xxdgv1y_guhppcx5agfuy8edjqac18wby-o3o+vktzq8...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/30/2013
at 09:10 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Moreover, I have never met a highly competent z/OS or z/VM systems
programmer who was willing to devote herself or himself
exclusively to security for a
In
cajtoo5_ws5e7yu3assyudh+3hpfigfiqpeghhxx6c4chkcy...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/28/2013
at 10:40 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
I know in the Banking Industry, you have to take one whole week of
vacation sometime during the year.
What happens if they won't approve leave for the
Depends on the particular branch, but I assume seniority would decide
who gets priority, and the boss would make the final decision.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
cajtoo5_ws5e7yu3assyudh+3hpfigfiqpeghhxx6c4chkcy...@mail.gmail.com,
I am sure that outsourced security varies in quality and
effectiveness, as does perforce 'outsourced' auditing.
My now extended observation of it in several mainframe shops has not,
however, been encouraging.
Exclusive preoccupation with security seems to lead ineluctably to
rigid, rote, highly
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Of John Gilmore
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))
I am sure that outsourced security varies in quality and effectiveness, as does
perforce 'outsourced' auditing.
My now
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:10:00 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
I am sure that outsourced security varies in quality and
effectiveness, as does perforce 'outsourced' auditing.
In fact, the rationale of dissolving collusions was suggested to
me decades ago, by someone unfamiliar with IT, in the context
I do not know Randall Gross personally, and it was anyway no part of
my intent to impugn the competence of any particular mainframe
security specialist. I indeed made it clear that I judge that the
effectiveness of such groups varies widely.
I am nevertheless unrepentent about my view that most
Of John Gilmore
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))
I do not know Randall Gross personally, and it was anyway no part of my intent
to impugn the competence of any particular mainframe security specialist
John Gilmore wrote:
I am sure that outsourced security varies in quality and effectiveness, as
does perforce 'outsourced' auditing.
True.
Exclusive preoccupation with security seems to lead ineluctably to rigid,
rote, highly standardized measures that make systems increasingly awkward and
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))
I am sure that outsourced security varies in quality and
effectiveness, as does perforce 'outsourced' auditing.
My now extended observation of it in several mainframe shops has not,
however
On 30 September 2013 10:43, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not sure just how 'staggering vacations in financial
institutions' dissolves collusions. It may well prevent them during
the interval when either of, say, two colluders is vacationing; but
there would still be ample
-party operations (i.e. working out permissions so
that no single person has sufficient permissions to complete operation
on their own).
http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/rbac/
somewhat back to early thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#16 Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing
contest(s))
http
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:34:41 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
multi-party operations were/are countermeasure to insider fraud.
collusion then is/was response by crooks.
staggered vacations then are a countermeasure to collusion
... periodically mixing up those required for multi-party
Mike,
I remember my first consulting gig was a bank, that's also what they told me.
Everyone had to take their vacation.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat,
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#16 Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing
contest(s))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#25 Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing
contest(s))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#31 Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing
contest(s))
for other drift, part
In
6628334024699272.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 09/25/2013
at 06:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Could you please be kind to give me more search limiting arguments?
The S in DSW stands for Size. I wonder if it's in the jargon file?
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In
cae1xxdhzl9eanjy3fwdv8i9q8d-hncq1m5czwojgia+ekiu...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/25/2013
at 04:27 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
He has a right to post here,
Like the rest of us, he has been granted the privilege of posting
here; UA can extend or retract their permission whether we
In
8124033304576715.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 09/26/2013
at 01:19 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Indeed. In a mature Data Centre, such overtime may or may not be
frowned on, but you know there are exceptions and of course
changes needed
I know in the Banking Industry, you have to take one whole week of
vacation sometime during the year. Makes sure other people can do you
job and that no funny accounting is going on.
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
I'm moving to a new thread.
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Not only in South Africa, we do 18+ in NYC too,
I have occassionaly done a full night work, especially during emergencies like
botched installation, upgrade or big changes.
One of the things that happens as you get older is that you
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Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Kees,
Everyone is referring to appropriateness
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www.identityforge.com
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Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Scott,
Possibly because English is not my native language, but I don't see what you
are referring to.
Kees.
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Scott/Kees/Jim/Superman/Tarzan and Elvis,
It's OK, you can call me anything on any given Wednesday because :
We do not wet our panties or get turned up stomach when we get
involved in any competition.. or call for a referee when we get some pee
on our leg while standing next to peeing contest
Get a life Abe.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Scott,
Possibly because English
Tarzan,
We Irish can out crazy you dude ...lol
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 26, 2013, at 6:53 AM, AbsKerneels kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com
wrote:
Scott/Kees/Jim/Superman/Tarzan and Elvis,
It's OK, you can call me
Elardus,
Absolutely, life is short, there also is a balance with work and life
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
I'm moving to a new thread.
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) writes:
I have occassionaly done a full night work, especially during
emergencies like botched installation, upgrade or big changes.
as undergraduate in the 60s, the univ would shutdown the datacenter from
8am sat until 8am monday ... and let
Lynn,
Yep I agree worked with some oriental programs, who slept under their
desks..these guys were unbelievably good programmers..the group I worked with
wasn't quite that bad, no in a negative sense.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On
On 9/25/2013 5:12 AM, Richard Pinion wrote:
Posts from AbsKerneels reminds me of the movie title One fly over the cuckoos
nest.
LOL! That's because AbsKerneels is none other than Anton Britz!
He changed his identity because so many people blocked his previous
email address(es). :D
--
Hi,
Actually , my real name is Mohammed and Ed does not like me because the
Fox channel told him, we are going to take over the world.. with or
without a pissing contest..
It's not my fault that his girlfriend preferred people with a darker
skin color or somebody that looks like an Arab and
Caught it after about the second post. Hasn't changed his meds though.
Just an FYI this is a TECHNICAL List! While we all have political, religious,
economic
values and beliefs there are other list that can accommodate those discussions.
While I'm guilty of drifting due to aging at least keep
Under all of his pseudonyms this fellow is a bigot.
He has a right to post here, and we cannot anyway stop him from doing
so without using obnoxiously repressive machinery. Let's not,
however, encourage him by responding to his offensive posts.
Blowing the gaff on his new identities as he
I can, barely, stomach the political nastiness. But the personal attack
of the last message got the email address placed on the gmail autodelete
filter.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:22 PM, efinnell15 efinnel...@aol.com wrote:
Caught it after about the second post. Hasn't changed his meds though.
Humor has its benefits. I have followed this thread and been informed and
sometimes LOL. Abs has not only walked over the line of reasonableness, he has
run right over it with a steamroller.
He needs to go someplace else with any comments that come close to what he
said, even if it was meant
Hi Chris,
I do apologize that this pissing contest turned your stomach because
with all due respect to these intelligent contributors around us, I did
not know we have rules in a pissing contest or I have never heard of any
ever ex.
a) no pissing on anybodies propaganda TV/Newspaper
b) no
In acdef067-c806-438e-b6cb-0708b34f3...@yahoo.com, on 09/25/2013
at 08:56 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Not only in South Africa, we do 18+ in NYC too,
One of the things that happens as you get older is that you figure out
that you are not Superman. Sour you can work 72 hours,
In
6af0b109b5fc0b41878c42c86444164c4b3c4...@ch1prd0310mb367.namprd03.prod.outlook.com,
on 09/23/2013
at 03:25 PM, Taylor, Scott scott.tay...@autozone.com said:
Only on this listserv can this particular topic become a thread...
Usenet.
They don't really have flames on Usenet. They think they
I hear Archie Bunker singing those were the days.
Kees.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:51
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Google for DSW (not the shoe store).
'Durban Solid Waste' or 'Deutsche Stiftung Weltbevoelkerung' amongst 13,6
million Google hits? :-)
H... :-D :-D :-D
I'm getting too many stock related hits for that shoe shop and that shop
itself...
Could you please be
What ?
Flaming contest with a bunch of old farts on IBM-MAIN ?
NO.. that is impossible.
These days.. it's more a :
This is the BIG ONE... I have never had pain like this before..
Elizabeth, I am coming honey , to join you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdi-1tIUhM
Kerneels
Translation
Kerneels wrote:
Old Farts : People in the USA that still think they are 21 , can work 18 hours
a day, go home , make love, before falling a sleep for 3 hours , just to rush
back to work , to make sure all the production systems are up and running on a
Monday morning
From below URLs: “He
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Google for DSW
Elardus,
TRUE story.. and this occurred at YOUR installation in the late 70's :
We lost the main IMS database , with all the information of all the
people that needed to klaar out.. .or move on , with their normal
lives.. because they forced some of us, to donate two years of our lives
to
Posts from AbsKerneels reminds me of the movie title One fly over the cuckoos
nest.
Richard and Vickie Pinion
--- kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com wrote:
From: AbsKerneels kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Date
AbsKerneels wrote:
TRUE story..
We lost the main IMS database , with all the information of all the people
that needed to klaar out.. .or move on , with their normal lives.. because
they forced some of us, to donate two years of our lives to military service
or to defend our country because
14:19
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
AbsKerneels wrote:
TRUE story..
We lost the main IMS database , with all the information of all the people
that needed to klaar out.. .or move on , with their normal lives.. because
they forced some of us, to donate two years
Getting it UP after working for 18 hours is a One fly over the cuckoos
nest concept in the USA.. but if you are from South Africa, it's seen
as NORMAL day to day occurrence... and they never found us dead at our
DESKS ever or needed to phone 911.. ( Another TRUE story.. happened in
TEXAS.. in
Dude,
Not only in South Africa, we do 18+ in NYC too, a lot of us dedicated, old
farts who care about their work do that I am slowing down at 63 ...
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:48 AM, AbsKerneels
On 09/25/2013 07:48 AM, AbsKerneels wrote:
Getting it UP after working for 18 hours is a One fly over the cuckoos
nest concept in the USA.. but if you are from South Africa, it's seen
as NORMAL day to day occurrence... and they never found us dead at our
DESKS ever or needed to phone 911.. (
Ken Kesey's 1962 novel, One FLEW over the cuckoo's nest, is still
eminently worth reading; and Miloš Forman's eponymous film is a
classic. One fly over a cuckoo's nest is less significant and would
in any case be shortlived since cuckoos are insectivores
--jg
9:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Ken Kesey's 1962 novel, One FLEW over the cuckoo's nest, is still
eminently worth reading; and Miloš Forman's eponymous film is a
classic. One fly over a cuckoo's nest is less significant and would
in any case be shortlived
Just for the record :
a) I really liked that movie.. ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST
b) When I watched this video clip again, this morning... Jack Nicholson
reminded me of TED CRUZ or even Gov Rick Perry.. of Texas.
c) Baseball tickets...as in the attached video.. I am heading up to
BOSTON on
On 9/23/2013 3:37 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Enuff already guys.
There's no shortage of egos on this list, but let's keep it so we can all take
something out of it.
Trust me, if Shane can control himself, you can too! :)
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] On
Behalf Of John Mattson
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 17:39
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
With all the heavy seriousness these days, a little levity is in order.
Thanks, folks, its been fun. Now let's keep our senses (of humor) and
let this matter pass. So to speak
Vernooij, CP wrote:
When this thread popped up, I first was happy, so I could easily skip this
subject and concentrate on useful threads, ...
You are NOT allowed to skip funny threads. ;-)
... but this one is becoming so funny, I don't want to miss it either...
I also enjoyed this thread
On 13Sep23:2156-0400, John Gilmore wrote:
The first time I encountered something like this phrase, circa 1950,
it took the form of
Don't get into a pissing match with a skunk!
I suspect that the phrase and its variants have multiple etymologies,
with much semantic cross contamination
in the crossfire'.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
On 13Sep23:2156-0400, John Gilmore wrote:
The first time I
David,
No. I in fact regret the lingering influence of 17th-century
puritanism on English usage. In, say, Italian the cognate verb,
pisciare, has always been usable even in what used to be called polite
society. Preoccupation with avoiding four-letter words in English has
had very unfortunate
On 13Sep24:0729-0400, John Gilmore wrote:
David,
No. I in fact regret the lingering influence of 17th-century
puritanism on English usage. In, say, Italian the cognate verb,
pisciare, has always been usable even in what used to be called polite
society. Preoccupation with avoiding
MXG in ACHAP07 line 440 states, in part, 'pissing off'.
:)
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Of Barry Merrill
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s
: Re: Pissing contest(s)
MXG in ACHAP07 line 440 states, in part, 'pissing off'.
:)
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Barry Merrill
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re
I had hoped I could resist contributing to this thread; alas,
apparently not.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:29:40 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
David,
No. I in fact regret the lingering influence of 17th-century
puritanism on English usage. In, say, Italian the cognate verb,
pisciare, has always been
, any given word can be verbed.
- Original Message -
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:03:27 AM
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
I had hoped I could resist contributing to this thread; alas,
apparently
Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:03:27 AM
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
I had hoped I could resist contributing to this thread; alas,
apparently not.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:29:40 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
David
] On Behalf
Of Scott Ford
Sent: Tuesday, 24 September, 2013 08:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Ok, I will bite, what about being 'pissed off'
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:17 AM
Enjoy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pissing_contest
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I own, and in a certain sense cherish, a facsimile edition of Thomas
Bowdler's 1818 edition of Shakespeare's plays, which sanitized them,
eliminating 'bawdry' that he judged unsuitable for maidens.
It is a disaster, and in an important sense a failure because it
identifies by omission or
...
Kees.
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Behalf Of John Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 15:16
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
I own, and in a certain sense cherish, a facsimile edition of Thomas
In Outback restaurants in the U.S. They have a sign Used Beer Department.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
Vernooij, CP wrote:
When this thread popped up, I first was happy, so I could easily skip this
subject and concentrate on
Hi,
Seeing that the IBM world is gradually changing into discussions about
the word pissing..
I suppose I have to also accept it and participate , at some stage.. but
it would have been more enjoyable to have been on the other side of this
conversation (as in the video ) than to read any of
Hey kerneels,
That was good liked it...especially since I worked in Europe ..
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:19 PM, AbsKerneels kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com
wrote:
Hi,
Seeing that the IBM world is
Enuff already guys.
There's no shortage of egos on this list, but let's keep it so we can all take
something out of it.
Shane ...
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--- ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
From: Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Pissing contest(s)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:37:46 -0500
Enuff already guys.
There's
I love it ...2 points Richard ...
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com/
From: Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Do the movie
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date: 09/23/2013 07:40 AM
Subject:Re: Pissing contest(s)
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
I love it ...2 points Richard ...
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
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Sounds English to me ..lol
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
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From: John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
So does
: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
So does anyone wonder where the phrase came from anyhow? Were there such
contests in the distant past? Was it an ancient Greek olympic event?
What? Certainly seems like good material for Monty Python.
John Mattson, Epson
23, 2013 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Sounds English to me ..lol
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com/
From: John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday
, September 23, 2013 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Sounds English to me ..lol
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com/
From: John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
, September 23, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Agreed!
In a pub in England, to get pissed means to get drunk. Right, Rob? :-)
In that case, it would be a drinking contest. Much better imagery!
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Subject:Re: Pissing contest(s)
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Only on this listserv can this particular topic become a thread... sigh.
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Behalf
, it would be a drinking contest. Much better imagery!
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Behalf Of Scott Ford
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Sounds
The first time I encountered something like this phrase, circa 1950,
it took the form of
Don't get into a pissing match with a skunk!
I suspect that the phrase and its variants have multiple etymologies,
with much semantic cross contamination among them.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
!
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Scott Ford
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
Sounds English to me ..lol
Scott J Ford
Software
On 23 September 2013 21:56, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect that the phrase and its variants have multiple etymologies,
with much semantic cross contamination among them.
Indeed. I had imagined that any actual such contest would be engaged
in only by small boys, and that the
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Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)
On 23 September 2013 21:56, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect that the phrase and its variants have multiple etymologies,
with much semantic cross contamination among them.
Indeed. I had
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