In 0327319053108678.wa.lmburchcabq@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/14/2012
at 11:03 AM, Larry Burch lmbu...@cabq.gov said:
Paul: Thanks for nothing!
Other than refering to the RCPT TO: in the envelope as a header, Paul
is correct.
in the Bcc: construct
What bcc construct. The bcc tag in the
In m3mx40basm@garlic.com, on 06/18/2012
at 04:54 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:
betatest for product was 1969
When did design start?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're
In
caarmm9qzhn7172t7zvtkpapp+qqkbdhzjxaaoyq5cztm_aj...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/18/2012
at 05:56 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
I don't know CICS, but HASP also used few of the available OS
services. Here's an excerpt from a little 1970-ish course handbook
(SR23-3697-0) that explains
In 5581573438612873.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/18/2012
at 04:42 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Doesn't MFT stand for Multiprogramming with a Fixed number of
Tasks?
Don't confuse etymology with semantics. Not only did more recent
releases of OS/360 support
In 0921302214459850.wa.jonboy644gmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/18/2012
at 09:03 AM, John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com said:
The installation copy of the 1.13 root f/s that came with the
Serverpac shows /etc and /var as directories, not symlinks, so
perhaps we got a devective Serverpac?
I
In 5098408892869838.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/19/2012
at 09:22 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Would any responsible administrator unload a data set to an
archive and grant read access to that archive to any user not
having read access to the original data
In
CAArMM9Tuco_MNbtQ5ZEg=uhy48ojk0gmk5ys-n3mvnvlxa2...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/19/2012
at 06:19 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
Well, then we're into the dangerous and powerful utilities auditor
checklist again.
IEFBR14 with the RC=0 fix?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In 0096899832141155.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/19/2012
at 08:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
An unfortunate restriction of TSO TRANSMIT is that its output is
not suitable for an instream data set.
Why does that matter?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In e52f4f44-5cae-479f-92cb-c156fdfa3...@yahoo.com, on 06/20/2012
at 10:46 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I am in the process of wanting to call idcams, principally, a
define and delete alias function in Assembler. I have looked at
IGGCSI00 and various examples, it doesn't appear
In
CAE1XxDFG9DZMu=+npbg4tc4pgc2wcydx2gnsrt8vnpke_qu...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/20/2012
at 02:36 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Anciently, under OS/PCP and OS/MFT, the Linkage Editor issued a
RESERVE for the DASD volume on which the target PDS for its output
load module resided in much
In
2a9e1363b91de94a874408de46f0b32daf44ad4...@cwm-ex-mbc-1.dcgov.priv,
on 06/20/2012
at 03:19 PM, Myers, Edouard (OCTO) edouard.my...@dc.gov said:
If I compile an Enterprise Cobol 3.4 module under a z/OS v1r11
system and its LE version can I run that same module on a z/OS
V1R9 system with
In
e3bdb5aee89ab14caaf930af702759a409f...@exmbx2010-1.campus.mcgill.ca,
on 06/20/2012
at 09:28 PM, Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca
said:
1024 bytes = 1 Kilobyte
Actually, 1000 bytes = 1 Kilobyte and 1024 bytes = 1 Kibibyte.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In ecj4u7dd2vt0gv0t30od9a27mqmbivg...@4ax.com, on 06/20/2012
at 07:29 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
Would you think better of Crovitz if his quoting VINTON Cerf was
transformed by me to his quoting VINCENT Cerf?
No, because the error I commented on was in the original
In
cae1xxde8oowf8pdjqa0ypnyj0xahusade2sqqnfxvddv9ot...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/21/2012
at 04:14 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Since he probably has a PC he could of course use the Windows
calculator.
What if he's not running wiondoze on his PC?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In
CAE1XxDHCLFzEm2DQ8i_rc3PA9tP=JKa576L=2j0uQ=kp9k6...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/22/2012
at 09:16 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
I have reviewed Shmuel's language, and it still seems to me that he
was equating a hardware RESERVE with an ENQ macro,
Try a remedial reading course.
My
In 67102dbd-8232-47d1-88be-9b62c0715...@comcast.net, on 06/25/2012
at 03:33 AM, Dale Miller dalelmil...@comcast.net said:
You might call the RESERVE macro a special form of ENQ,
but the actual reserve was a hardware feature on DASD.
There is no the actual reserve; there is a RESERVE macro
In bay145-w28ad40f15a4f1654e89483a3...@phx.gbl, on 06/25/2012
at 09:25 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said:
The RESERVE macro did (still does?) not directly do the hardware
reserve. Rather, it set a bit in the UCB to tell the next IO to the
unit to prepend a reserve CCW to the channel
In 4fedf3c7.7010...@gabegold.com, on 06/29/2012
at 02:28 PM, Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com said:
The Truth Will Set You Free
http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Business-Case/The-Truth-Will-Set-You-Free.aspx
The ensemble limit of 8 is only relevant to sharing Intel and POWER
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 06/28/2012
at 07:44 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
My personal desire would be something akin to ISPF available from a
z/OS UNIX shell
If IBM were willing, the ISPF WSA would be a good start.
and
In
caluepdg0d1-zceg9dlbgpienh5oevxdqp1ldgsjjog+ar0n...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/28/2012
at 09:29 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said:
I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a
running STC?
Assuming that you want a solution in the STC code rather than in the
JCL,
In
2f5ebb4a2535bf478a8605e1b5e119c332f56...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
on 06/28/2012
at 05:25 PM, Steve Bireley sbire...@rocketsoftware.com said:
Many people want their 3270 emulator to act like a word processor :
).
What does act like a word processor mean. Depending on the answer,
some
In vnetibm.20120628210314.7...@bldgate.vnet.ibm.com, on 06/28/2012
at 01:47 PM, Tom Ross tmr...@stlvm20.vnet.ibm.com said:
This was changed quite a few years ago, when customers realized that
the LE release was tied to the OS release, and they were running with
newer releases in development
In 99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com, on 06/29/2012
at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a
vendor STC or in house written?
No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP
want
In
caluepdh0cuszsusbuzhhtvkh-agnzegolynk6lhdbaueyea...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/02/2012
at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said:
The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control
the PGM nor the JCL.
Then you can spin off segments[1] for early printing or
In 24ed21e9-0ebc-42b6-af26-5e07aa72c...@yahoo.com, on 07/02/2012
at 12:51 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
This industry is tough enough without a language barrier. Add the
language barrier it gets down right ugly.
I've worked with competent people with a language barrier. I've
In 4ff12fdc.2010...@gabegold.com, on 07/02/2012
at 01:21 AM, Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com said:
Sysplex ensemble.
Il va sans dire. The point is that an ensemble is not the largest unit
of coordinated z boxes that IBM supports.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
In
CAE1XxDEzxDZ4YJ3iJHU4TqXk34Cvp2J3ysWA0ese=1scde0...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/02/2012
at 05:33 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
John Reid has reminded us all of a generic weakness in the way we
TINW.
do things.
I don't know about you, but when I install a new system I test it,
have
In
caarmm9qdhnpyad88a2mdyztdyzmvhf_iloxkk3d5y8sjkxt...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/03/2012
at 12:02 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
Since native* English words do not contain q without an
immediately following u, one might reasonably suggest that QANTAS
indeed be pronounced Kantas, by
In 1599538529031849.wa.mkkhan88hotmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/02/2012
at 08:07 AM, Mohammad Khan mkkha...@hotmail.com said:
My call was answered by his brother who informed me that Rick
passed away on Friday of natural causes.
We'll miss him.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg
In
2f5ebb4a2535bf478a8605e1b5e119c332f5d...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
on 07/02/2012
at 03:26 PM, Steve Bireley sbire...@rocketsoftware.com said:
True that they are not unique to APL and is a code page issue.
However, some of the lines drawn on 3270 screens in many emulators
are drawn
In
CAE1XxDFdGi5uieWxxeXJErugkjVB0A0-fb=wi6ft1e=gtug...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/03/2012
at 09:31 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
begin extract
By the way you mean Homophone not Homonym. The former are words that
sound alike but are spelled differently while
In 5949005395636248.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/05/2012
at 09:19 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said:
Fidelity in copy/paste requires that both applications know what
they're doing with the clipboard.
Of course.
Default locale for Western Windows assumes code
In
985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21e5b12...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com,
on 07/09/2012
at 10:55 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com
said:
The replacement manual for the -10 edition, GA23-0060-0, which
bitsavers does have, seems to have only pages E1 and E2.
At least, there
In acae6e9bdf980c47bc9ed5bc1c0e34f30e208...@hqpwp553.calpers.ca.gov,
on 07/11/2012
at 09:01 PM, Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov said:
Can somebody provide me with a URL or publication number for the
manual that describes the MVS (CKD) channel commands supported by the
IBM System Storage
In
CALuePdi533-C8m=OkPj9H=fbso1igwq6d0zarhm2lyc_06l...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/11/2012
at 03:02 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said:
Is there any equivalent program so I can use in order to start a STC
automatically on IPL (except the COMMNDxx) ?
Is there a current version of TSSO on
In
985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21e5bd2...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com,
on 07/12/2012
at 09:27 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com
said:
Thank you.
Thank you for prompting me to do a search that lead me to a much more
usefull source ;-)
In 6700504004248585.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/12/2012
at 10:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
TYPRUN=SCAN's checking is a bad joke. IIRC, it fails to report
errors as fundamental as DSNAME 44 characters.
Is that true in JES3 or only in JES2? That
In
CAArMM9TAObiJu1BvHCumRYfGXvyo+=ccm-_4tzcd0itldx6...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/13/2012
at 12:43 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
FORCE is most certainly not just a stronger form of CANCEL
He may be thinking of FORCE ARM.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
In 5001ef16.8000...@t-online.de, on 07/15/2012
at 12:13 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said:
I don't think that there is any cultural or philosophical
difference between mainframe or distributed/workstation
developers, given the same number of years of experience and
skill
In
CAE1XxDE7yYDyoQaTGFNhxp1tSiVHnK+i8GTQptXD6=8bgfh...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/14/2012
at 08:08 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Integer arithmetic should never be done with anything but binary
integers.
Your reasoning is correct for two's complement machines, e.g., z, but
is incorrect
In
of481ed85f.720f607e-on48257a3d.00242269-48257a3d.0026c...@us.ibm.com,
on 07/16/2012
at 03:03 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said:
Yahoo! Mail -- the Web version -- *still* does not use HTTPS for
most communications AFAIK. For example, if you're using a free
wi-fi hotspot
In 4330217043601718.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/17/2012
at 11:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
There's too much DWIM in that convention
No, there's too much DWYTIM[1] and not enough DWIM. I'd settle for
DWITYTDADTTSGM[2].
I hate it when such busybody mailers
In
985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21e5c49...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com,
on 07/17/2012
at 12:04 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com
said:
t SHOULD NOT be necessary to have considerable statistical prowess
or have access to DCOLLECT output (which most normal application
In 886132E644ECAE808EED6EEFA317@graham, on 07/17/2012
at 11:15 AM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net said:
When someone uses the underscores between some words .. what does
that mean?
Underscore. ITYM when somebody uses underscore *around* a word. In
that case it means the same as
In
ofae475794.d0761284-on48257a3e.001cb9f7-48257a3e.001fa...@us.ibm.com,
on 07/17/2012
at 01:45 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said:
Most coffee shops, hotels, etc. still don't use encrypted wi-fi.
Bletch! I'd better check what my local library uses, if anything.
3. The
In
9b26bc6a6df52d4483dd73b1fe7b4b0658b83d6...@uspho-mxvs07.amer.thermo.com,
on 07/18/2012
at 10:37 AM, Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com said:
Uh, I don't think so.
You're thinking CLIST not REXX.
I doubt it. What he wrote was 'The problem is that ISPF/ISREDIT
evaluates/substitutes
In 9307538697441482.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/19/2012
at 09:22 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Is this because Unisys is deficient in conformance to the standard,
or because IBM's implementation contains an extension to the
standard?
No, it's because UNIVAC
In
ofc799207c.54ac2d90-on88257a40.004f10aa-88257a40.004f4...@ea.epson.com,
on 07/19/2012
at 07:25 AM, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com said:
Shmuel ! A previous reply also suggested SCAN OFF. I tried it,
Did you try it with your original FIND, or with the FIND that used
picture?
Please
In
ofbece3590.44f08adb-on48257a41.002f9ff5-48257a41.00320...@us.ibm.com,
on 07/20/2012
at 05:06 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said:
I'm not sure I understand the question,
There is support for mapping long user ids into short user ids. Does
that support work if the access
In 1342772932.49603.yahoomail...@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com, on
07/20/2012
at 09:28 AM, Costin Enache e_cos...@yahoo.com said:
Please assist a poor soul into finding a way to debug SVC (supervisor
call interrupt) handlers.
There is a major difference between the SVC interrupt handler and an
In c4c6c378-b640-43a1-88d5-7c79f3bf0...@yahoo.com, on 07/20/2012
at 08:08 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Who did the inherit the 1108 from ? My dad worked for Unisys on the
1108sdude
Unisys was a merger of Burroughs and UNIVAC; They kept the B6500 line
from Burroughs and the
In 1342898015.24312.yahoomail...@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on
07/21/2012
at 12:13 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I wasnt sure if the 1108 had come from RCA or Buroughs
The 1108 dates back to the old Remington-Rand or Sperry Rand, not to
the RCA EDP acquisition. It's possible
In
CAE1XxDE+7LU3kKQt2pEgJVyNR2U7-=st1ejzi9abaxyuavr...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/22/2012
at 09:12 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Specifying the RENT option when you assemble your HLASM subroutines
instructs the HLASM to check your code for non-reentrant constructs,
and it finds many but
In f031d213-4695-4551-bd15-96e97b8d8...@yahoo.com, on 07/22/2012
at 11:29 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I was aware of the hardware on the machines, since my late father was
a FE on them. Didn't really know anything about the opsys or
programming languages.
There were two OS's;
In
b870629719727b4ba82a6c06a31c29123249662...@hqmailsvr01.voltage.com,
on 07/22/2012
at 07:26 PM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com said:
Couldn't CP PVMSG send something that automation could pick up?
What if you're not running z/VM? Does the CP in PR/SM support PVMSG?
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In 3222468561495810.wa.victorworkcnyahoo.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/23/2012
at 04:41 AM, Victor Zhang victor_wor...@yahoo.com.cn said:
But I can't find how to locate number of extents for a non-vsam
dataset.
The data are not in the catalog; use OBTAIN.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In 9538009122010217.wa.victorworkcnyahoo.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/23/2012
at 08:41 AM, Victor Zhang victor_wor...@yahoo.com.cn said:
Can I interpret this to get non-vsam used or allocated size?
No.
DSCBTTR TTR of format-1 DSCB for non-VSAM data set
You can use it in an OBTAIN.
--
In 245275432281.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/23/2012
at 03:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
As I stated initially, one of my motives was portability. In a
conventional UNIX system, processes needn't register to receive
SIGTERM.
In a conventional Unix
In 6efdefc7-f5c2-48b9-ba6f-8b0b41b99...@googlegroups.com, on
07/23/2012
at 07:35 PM, Garry G. Green garryg.gr...@yahoo.com said:
Of particular interest is how APF is handled in a TSO environment.
Note that TSO in the free MVS did not have the parallel TMP, so ISPF
could not depend on the
In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C4765@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/24/2012
at 12:19 PM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
Yeah, right. Much better to restrict it to government and
corporations who never abuse things.
That's your proposal, not mine, TYVM. What would have
In 500ec8bf.5020...@acm.org, on 07/24/2012
at 11:09 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
That certainly would have been nice, but I'm not convinced anyone
at the time understood the potential scope of those problems,
They understood enough to warn against it, whether or not they
In
cae1xxdher2jjpx0cyzr+ku8g-6afdj7n4q13ww7g+jbe-hx...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/24/2012
at 04:09 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
The scientific community made early and significant use of the
DARPA predecessor of today's Internet, and almost none of the
problems that afflict us today
In 9251321842665626.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/24/2012
at 10:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
And remembering that Rexx considers lower case characters special.
Not quite, but the default value of an uninitialized variable is the
upper case name.
Do these
In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C4A24@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/25/2012
at 12:25 PM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
No. Starting ten years lat(t)er is your concept, not mine
Well no, not mine. I wasn't responding to you here.
Well, you were responding to Joel C.
In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C49FF@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/25/2012
at 12:21 PM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
One really has to ask however what exactly
In an anarchic fashion that opened us up to all sorts of network abuse.
actually means
It means not
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 07/25/2012
at 08:02 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
What, no mention of CP/M-86?
It never had enough market share; DR-DOS would be more likely.
And you totally ignored things like the Amiga.
Did
In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C4CA6@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/26/2012
at 09:47 AM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
Yes, well, I'm sure Wrong! and Lol! and are you a troll (not to
mention look farther and are you (a) bankrobber)
Sigh! Humor is such a subjective
In
CAE1XxDGmMk8nKK=xkjinenh0qjhxaytmb_wvxi2w4vus+an...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/26/2012
at 01:58 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
I also grow weary of complaints about my notionally 'exotic'
vocabulary. This term once had a precise meaning. (Signage
annoucing efforts at 'exotic plant
In 2l301898lcsfh0l746t31qqovcfe36b...@4ax.com, on 07/25/2012
at 12:25 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
Why should customers have to be aware of this?
Presumably firewall issues.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
In
CAPtSOKyrh+P_tbZ0svTJKPgguERk4STJ1WK9Ku=5hqw5aks...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/26/2012
at 12:24 PM, Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com said:
or does anyone have any other suggestions?
Info-zip
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We
In
CAE1XxDH=2+e+p2ag55ykgtwlc+ttbptqvrzv8iunhoaxpzg...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/27/2012
at 10:34 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Paul Gilmartin is almost right. Both the reader and the punch
read and punched what they were presented with.
What is that supposed to mean? Bit 2 of the
In d62518tlvl2c80hjdjfkc5lqmc5icg9...@4ax.com, on 07/27/2012
at 09:27 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
I would agree so that is why I question the changing of IP addresses.
Are you saying that you don't see why there might be a need to
reconfigure firewalls after changing if
In 1343549987.5014f22372...@postoffice.tpg.com.au, on 07/29/2012
at 06:19 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:
Might I request the luminaries of the list perhaps indulge those of
us unfortunate enough to be using the (severely crippled) web
interface and *top post* in replies ?.
Please
In 50155783.2090...@actionsoftware.com, on 07/29/2012
at 11:32 AM, Gord Tomlin gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com said:
While there is an RFC (I'm not going to hunt for the number on a
Sunday) that specifies that bottom posting is correct,
More precisely, it specifies that a response follow the
In 45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf17f90...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com,
on 07/30/2012
at 09:28 AM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@sas.com said:
For me, punched card isn't quite as easy to pronounce as punch
card, but I have some difficulties saying iced tea. Perhaps ice'
tea would be more a more
In
8693414129914945.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 07/30/2012
at 05:48 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Just curious, while I agree 100% with what you wrote, where is
that standard written? I seem to recall that in a previous thread,
that
In 8848452157165904.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/30/2012
at 09:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Was that uniformly true?
Was what universally true. I don't know of any S/360 card equipment
that used nonstandard CCW opcodes for read and punch. If you're
In
5271902217232606.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 07/31/2012
at 10:55 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Using your posted example, try this (using only one parameter):
EX 'SYS2.LOCAL.CLIST(XMITIP)' 'TM#T.M.XMITIP.PARMCARD.userid'
Assuming
In
CAApqkjt47TQe2TfmFTC5dwgfaHJAwF4s=DUec9fRXgnm3M=2...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/31/2012
at 11:32 AM, George Rodriguez
george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org said:
I'm trying to execute XMITIP
Is it in your SYSPROC or SYSEXEC?
EX 'SYS2.LOCAL.CLIST(XMITIP)' how and what do I say here... I'm very
In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343415c6...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
on 07/30/2012
at 08:32 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
but I have heard data is my whole life when listening to
conversational English (not Latin), find data are to sound strange,
While I cringe
In 50176649.9050...@gmail.com, on 07/31/2012
at 12:59 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
On 31/07/2012 12:09 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:
I never saw an answer from you regarding my question for some examples
of how other non-primitive OS's provide a simple way a program can
protect
In 5016b9ec.9020...@acm.org, on 07/30/2012
at 11:44 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
My recollection is that in the era of punched cards the more common
usage by programmers/operators was just card, cards, or card
deck and others more often than not called them IBM cards
Also
In
cae1xxdhabxscw9vqmeojswt_kabw4mstc78po3bhqjdrabt...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/03/2012
at 01:52 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Auditors are, legitimately, preoccupied with computer security,
and some PTFs address security issues.
Some PTF's introduce security vulnerabilities.
In
b59b09b8b0099f44b859d46ffb38b10ec32...@crplivexc66.citnet.cit.com,
on 08/03/2012
at 02:21 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com said:
See if you can get the auditors to agree that you will apply all
applicable (to your environment) PTFs flagged as a Red Alert
within 30-60 days of
In 1344012753.76726.yahoomail...@web122103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
08/03/2012
at 09:52 AM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com said:
The program was written in pre-COBOL II (COBOL 85) syntax.
At that time the REMARKS paragraph valid (I'm guessing as an IBM
extension),
No.
and
In 7071703290621695.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/03/2012
at 04:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Don't blame the auditors.
Why not? A good auditor is a joy forever, but a bad auditor can cause
immense damage.
And what do you find wrong with the auditor's
In
canij+dcwo4xfsx0itfnd-org9gkoh819gfwkwudic5greqx...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/03/2012
at 08:09 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com said:
Yes, we would love to have the scans - it is just a matter of
logistics. If you are willing to flat out donate them to be scanned
and archived, then
In 7867308318271579.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/05/2012
at 01:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Sounds like a standard to me.
Not even close. A finding is a statement that they found something
they didn't like. A standard is a published policy, not something
In 45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf17f93...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com,
on 08/06/2012
at 06:30 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@sas.com said:
Books I've bought from the UK say this in the front. Seems a bit
strict, but is this the same thing?
This book is sold subject to the condition that it
In 0f38850c-ff90-42cc-8897-b4fa59db3...@yahoo.com, on 08/06/2012
at 09:52 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
God I love it, need a sense of humor
You would have liked Rannie; he had a marvelous sense of humor.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
In 39235829-1d9d-411b-bb12-6b739e1c2...@yahoo.com, on 08/07/2012
at 08:12 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I love it .I had a COBOL programmer bet me that our DOS/VSE
system on our 4381 was causing her abend. She bet me a dinner,
well I collected, brought her in and did a
In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343415c8...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
on 08/07/2012
at 01:08 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
How did you successfully use POINT without having first done a NOTE
so that the POINT knows where to POINT?
Some obvious ways that it can be
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 08/07/2012
at 02:27 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
We had DOS/VS at that time. The DOS person said that DOS would
occasionally kill his programs as well. With the words USER
REQUESTED TERMINATION. The
In
CAFMxNW+NmuenEh0Tem8RnQdZ=jtgauuhsoilq6iussgrltr...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/07/2012
at 12:03 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said:
An 0c7 is a data exception error detected by the hardware.
No; it is an ABEND detected by the Program FLIH when there is no SPIE
to catch interupt code 7.
Without
In 8082333213958528.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/08/2012
at 02:04 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said:
Sorry I haven't been watching IBM-MAIN as closely as I should, but
the TTR isn't. It's the CMS file system record number of the
record that was just read
In 0fdb46cc-7d2e-4887-9f5c-fc29d9c2b...@aim.com, on 08/08/2012
at 09:45 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
I do not find a stated minimum for the BDW. Absent firm
information, I'll assume 4-byte blocks (nothing but BDW) are
permissible.
No, the minimum ios 8; see 3.2.3.1 Block
In
CAJTOO58735VUTbFZ-GL2hvGg5=p=zoaf0271gsclbqt0y4j...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/08/2012
at 10:11 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
A zero byte VB record is expanded to 1 blank x'40' so the minimum is
a block of 9 bytes including block size and record size field.
Are you sure didn't
In
CAJTOO5-_jCQt3_wepucjBcEqhu7sNFbv7TcE=4vabeyj5mv...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/08/2012
at 02:15 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
On TSO ISPF 3.2, it failed with record length too short so I kept
adding 1 to the LRECL until 10 worked. This was about 9 years ago.
Well, ISPF has its
In
3ebf9c9d119fd847b3a096c515a018f69486c...@surfsdvmp35.cnasurety.net,
on 08/10/2012
at 03:50 PM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com said:
What would be the reason(s) for starting long-running tasks like CICS
as a started task or a batch job?
START doesn't tie up an initiator, and
In
capmheapqah_j8ooge4ytzzhnstdmyra_elty4zsd3hgtp1k...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/13/2012
at 02:16 PM, Henri Kuiper henrikui...@zdevops.com said:
If the latter is the case : feel free to contact me. You can take a
sneak peak at http://zdevops.com
We do z/OS virtualizations on x86 hardware :).
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