Re: Knowledge Centre - (was Re: Rant)

2018-12-07 Thread Steve Thompson
te such a link within a manual to another page within that manual? Yes, I have run into these things. Regards, Steve Thompson On 12/7/18 9:50 AM, Marna WALLE wrote: Carmen (and others): As you know, I've been "vocal" about getting KC (at least on the internet) to a point whe

Re: Thanks For All the Fish

2018-12-12 Thread Steve Thompson
Amen to what Bob said. And, another hitchhiker leaves the experiment. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Robert Shimizu wrote: > > Hi John: > > Congratulations on your retirement. Dave and I will miss you, b

Re: article about Grace Hopper, developer of COBOL

2019-01-10 Thread Steve Thompson
How about mathematic symbols or mnemonics as opposed to human readable languages? That would be my take of what the author was getting at. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks On Jan 10, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> Grace Hopper

Re: BALR and BAL in AMODE=24

2019-01-22 Thread Steve Thompson
Yes. I have worked on application programs that interrogated the high order byte to determine what logic path to take in the called routine. In certain other cases it was used after return to the caller to look at the cc from before the BAL/BALR and branch accordingly. Sent from my iPhone

Re: Are there compiler options to move Working Storage in Cobol above the line?

2019-01-24 Thread Steve Thompson
DATA(24) may be their problem. But, you can’t change it if csects are statically linked that are RMODE 24. I’m fixing some issues like this now for ENT COBOL 4.2 where I work. The routines are ALC. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On

Re: Using IPCS ACTIVE and alt ASID to display extended private storage

2019-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
I think that the only tool that will let you do that is zXDC. I have used IPCS “Active” but only to work on a system problem involving common storage (not specifically CSA). But there I was effectively in read only mode. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. E

Re: Tape Mount Management

2019-01-31 Thread Steve Thompson
nd this bit of info helps you deal with both situations, too much data for DASD staging, and too little data to be worth eating up tape. HTHs, Steve Thompson On 1/31/19 3:30 PM, Benik, John E wrote: Thank you for all the feedback. Even though we are all virtual tape, I am under the impr

Re: TSO TEST AT question

2019-02-19 Thread Steve Thompson
And I thank you. You just don’t know how much that tool you wrote has saved me and I’m not even a power user of it. I have tried to explain the power of zXDC to managers. I finally told some that there are IBM groups that use it because there is no IBM tool that can do what it does. Again,

Re: z/OS 2.4

2019-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
In memory of OS/390, maybe, Z os 3.4? 1.3 then 2.4... remember? Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Feb 20, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Beverly Caldwell wrote: > > Why does anybody care what they call it. It's only going to be the same old > thing

Re: instruction clock speed

2019-03-06 Thread Steve Thompson
Not since pipeline processors. The last time I saw a manual with timings was for a S360. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Mar 6, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Joseph Reichman wrote: > > Hi > > > > > > From what I remember there used to be a

R+ / Reliability Plus

2019-03-28 Thread Steve Thompson
. And trying to find a similar product, "r" is a language, Plus gives you stuff you don't care about, etc. -- makes it difficult to search. Thanks in advance, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: R+ / Reliability Plus

2019-03-28 Thread Steve Thompson
have against a data base of items within one's own shop to run some compares with. Regards, Steve Thompson On 3/28/19 11:34 AM, Allan Staller wrote: It was originally R+ and then acquired by CA (CA-9?). IIRC, CA stopped marketing it fairly soon thereafter. At this point, I would guess i

Re: COBOL 6.2 and ARCH(12)

2019-05-03 Thread Steve Thompson
Possibly. LE library routines may be smart enough to do that. But the compiler can’t do that in the case you compiled on a z14 to run on any lower level supported architecture. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On May 3, 2019, at 3:57 PM,

Re: BLKSIZE=0 (was: Crazy ...)

2019-05-06 Thread Steve Thompson
What about BUFL=? As I recall, I used to use this to keep from having problems with concatenations... By having a buffer length equal to or larger than any buffer one might read... And we really were beyond CORE in those days. But it is true, C-STORE was expensive. Regards, Steve Thompson

Re: What crashing COBOL systems reveal about applications maintenance -- GCN

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Thompson
I have z14 on the brain. I meant z12s. On 5/13/20 9:10 PM, Clark Morris wrote: [Default] On 13 May 2020 16:56:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ste...@copper.net (Steve Thompson) wrote: Suppose that they took a group of programmers and got the production online programs to all compile with

Re: COBOL Question

2020-06-07 Thread Steve Thompson
Don’t forget the SKELETON language. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Jun 7, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >  1. ISPF is not a language.If you are referring to panel definition > statements, > ELSE uses indentation to

Re: Allocating GDG(+1) using SVC 99

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Thompson
From MFT days SVC99 alloc in a JOB is not treated the same as INIT ALLOC (JCL). It has been a while since I’ve had to know this stuff and memory gets hazy. Throw in VTS and there may be nuances that I’ve not been exposed to. “Roll in” occurs when you dealloc when doing SVC99. If using TA

Re: Allocating GDG(+1) using SVC 99

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Thompson
is done at deallocation time. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > Steve Thompson [ste...@copper.net] > S

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-09 Thread Steve Thompson
had done that before). So, what you have does not look like anything I recall for WYLBUR, nor does it look like anything I had from Stanford when I tried to resurrect WYLBUR. Regards, Steve Thompson On 7/9/20 9:23 AM, DAL POS Raphael wrote: Hi list, Wilbur source is not that "tr

Re: Dovetail/Kirk Wolf?

2020-08-31 Thread Steve Thompson
You tweet, therefore you annoy me. ;-) I think this was a take off on a retort by Descartes' wife. Regards, Steve Thompson On 8/31/20 5:50 PM, Steve Smith wrote: I tweet, therefore I am. On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:40 PM Frank Swarbrick wrote: If one does not use Twitter does one

Re: Ransoming a mainframe disk farm

2020-09-07 Thread Steve Thompson
So, does this mean that a cloud environment is more or less likely to be attacked than the same on premise environment? Such an attack could cause a major disruption in operations and thinking. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Sep 7, 2

Re: Caution: "Hacked" email caused the distribution of a potentially harmful attachment

2020-09-20 Thread Steve Thompson
Your account does not have to be “Hacked” to send emails that are made to look like your account was used to send them. From time to time, based on what you said, I have sent extortion/blackmail emails to myself Checking the headers, and tracking the ip addresses... I’ve been traveling the

LOAD/LINK exit

2019-06-13 Thread Steve Thompson
des of DUO360... ouch. If you have any suggestions on this, or if you know of an ISV product that will do this, I think my management will be interested. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: LOAD/LINK exit

2019-06-13 Thread Steve Thompson
That would be wonderful. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Jun 13, 2019, at 11:26 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: > > CSVLLIX1 works only for LLA-managed libraries. I was still looking for > the more comprehensive CSVFETCH exit, which was adde

Re: Need for a z/OS "master index" (Was RE: LOAD/LINK exit)

2019-06-16 Thread Steve Thompson
Just to step back a thought or two: Why is it that MVS Utilities is a bad name? Why is it that ADRDSSU requires a PDF advanced search after downloading all the z/os 2.x PDFs before you can find it? Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Jun

Re: LOAD/LINK exit

2019-06-26 Thread Steve Thompson
routine will get control before the recovery routine established by the system. I would have it in an APF library with AC(0) if for no other reason than to know it is in a library of code that can get to SupState/Key0. Regards, Steve Thompson On 6/26/19 1:28 PM, Thomas David Rivers wrote

Re: Using bpxbatch to compress an MVS dataset

2019-06-30 Thread Steve Thompson
uncompressable. HTH Steve Thompson Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Jun 30, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > > If both systems are on the same physical computer, it might not be worth it. > The time and cpu cycles i

Re: COBOL for z/OS V6R2M0

2019-08-02 Thread Steve Thompson
Onion Planters becomes First? Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Aug 2, 2019, at 5:22 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. > wrote: > > It depends on "Who's on first, what's on second, and I don't know is on > third". > > -Original Message-

Re: ISPF Question - browsing variable length records

2019-08-08 Thread Steve Thompson
If it doesn’t pad out the lines, how would you write into those records, after the last character (defined by the RDW)? This would be why, in my best guess, it is done like that with edit. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Aug 8, 2019,

Re: ISPF Question - browsing variable length records

2019-08-09 Thread Steve Thompson
n 072 for that one. Regards, Steve Thompson On 8/9/19 2:51 PM, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: I am trying to imagine what a variable length punched card looks like😉. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd Web:  www.rsmpartners.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. En

Re: VIO dataset problem

2019-09-21 Thread Steve Thompson
If I remember correctly, the limit for a VIO Data set is 65535 tracks. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Shivang Sharma wrote: > > Hi , > > We are not storage constraint . We hardly page .The idea behind usin

Re: Who writes these things?

2019-09-22 Thread Steve Thompson
Scott: I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told that a certain JOB/Utility has thrown an error or ABEND etc. The environment being used was not and still is not OO in the slightest. And the persons reporting such have no idea where the manuals are or that they even exist. As a result,

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Steve Thompson
how to fix anything. Maybe some old COBOL programmer will be left in a cryocrypt that they can get out and solve their medical problem, for them to be able to explain how to fix..... Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

TEAMS usage

2023-02-08 Thread Steve Thompson
the in vogue software. Why? because I can't seem to acquire W10 so I can run it under Virtual Box. Oh, and NO, I was not running as ROOT. I only run as root when doing installs and certain types of maint. Regards, Steve Thompson On 2/8/2023 9:21 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote: That’s h

Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the fish

2023-02-08 Thread Steve Thompson
Sorry to see you go. And I too am not a very active member. I read a lot and learn stuff. Hope you enjoy your retirement. Or, un-retirement if that is what you wish. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-08 Thread Steve Thompson
at I can do this without having to use IKJEFT* . Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TEAMS usage

2023-02-08 Thread Steve Thompson
er of 2022 with Teams. And TEAMS on my iPhone had me having to plug my phone in to charge several times a day. It was amazing to me how much battery was used for a Teams conference. Regards, Steve Thompson On 2/8/2023 12:52 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 10:07, Steve Thomps

Re: The Local death of DB2 z/OS --- what is the best way to preserve the data once the mainframe is gone

2023-02-09 Thread Steve Thompson
I was the one that caused such to be filed in case there would be some legal action -- a get out of jail free card, as it were. Just say'n'. Steve Thompson On 2/9/2023 9:25 AM, Tom Longfellow wrote: VERY GOOD POINT. Interesting that the subjects of Lawyers has not been brought up her

Re: how to read SMF data?

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
Since you have MXG, you should be able to get the doc for free from their website. I was just there checking on a few things.  https://www.mxg.com Regards, Steve Thompson On 2/14/2023 10:10 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: thank you for your responses! I just found out we have MXG! doing google

Test

2023-02-19 Thread Steve Thompson
This is a test to see if my IP is still being blocked. My email server is hosted in Washington state and from time to time certain organizations suddenly start blocking the ips from the host there. Steve Thompson -- For IBM

Re: Test

2023-02-19 Thread Steve Thompson
Thank you for your reply. Knowing this screwy problem, I have the list servers I use set up to send me a copy of what I sent them so I can know it posted. Regards, Steve Thompson On 2/19/2023 1:14 PM, Charles Hardee wrote: I received your message so it appears your not being blocked, as of

Re: Test

2023-02-19 Thread Steve Thompson
Tried it and the problem specifically seems to be with Marist. I've run into this before. Have to wait until Monday to get them on the phone. Steve Thompson On 2/19/2023 2:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:12:58 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: This is a test to see if

Q: Where is LISTDSI kept?

2023-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
line is, I can't use TSO-REXX list for now. Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Sv: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept?

2023-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
have any of the install stuff for this environment I'm not sure that I have access to the CSIs because this is a cloned system. Regards, Steve Thompson On 2/20/2023 11:16 AM, Lars Höglund wrote: You have to start ISPF //BATCHPDF EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=128, // PARM=&#x

Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept?

2023-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
/* capture RC */ *XX is -3 when done. * Meanwhile, anyone have a contact for the TSO-REXX list -- Any email to any address at Marist for me is being rejected. Steve Thompson On 2/20/2023 12:29 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: Show us you code. בתאריך יום ב׳, 20 בפבר׳ 2023 ב-19:28 מאת Binyamin Diss

Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept?

2023-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
r a call back from their help desk, which I think is only for students.  sigh. Steve Thompson On 2/20/2023 3:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 14:53:49 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: ... PARSE ARG UPPER COMMAND_LINE EXCESS ??? PARSE UPPER ARG COMMAND_LINE EXCESS But th

Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept?

2023-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
MAND LISTDSI NOT FOUND    +++ RC(-3) +++ Tomorrow is another day. Steve Thompson On 2/20/2023 4:10 PM, Mike Shaw wrote: Steve, If you change the EXEC statement to use PGM=IRXJCL instead of PGM=IKJEFT01 does the result change? Mike Shaw QuickRef Support On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 2:53 PM Steve Th

Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept?

2023-02-20 Thread Steve Thompson
I'm wondering this as well. I had it happen before. Steve Thompson On 2/20/2023 4:50 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: O/T - This may not be related and I wish I knew more about it, but for a time last year my tombrennansoftware.com email address couldn't send to gmail.com at all.  I believe t

Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept? A: Not where you think.

2023-02-21 Thread Steve Thompson
things are getting better. So the question of where LISTDSI is found is moot, in that my environment is correct once using "CC = 'LISTDSI' ('SYSUT1 FILE')". I now return you to other more interesting topics. Thank you all again, Steve Thompson On 2/20/2023 8

Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept? A: Not where you think.

2023-02-21 Thread Steve Thompson
what makes IBM Main, MVS-OE, CMS-PIPELINES, VM_List, etc. so invaluable to me. Steve Thompson On 2/21/2023 10:51 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: IMHO the root cause is that people see what they expect to see; hence the value of code and design reviews, where the code is read by a fresh pair of eyes

Marist Email Issues

2023-02-22 Thread Steve Thompson
They are looking at the problem. It appears one of their MX records is bad. They made a change and now my email gets to the list server. Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

2023-02-24 Thread Steve Thompson
Might I suggest z/XDC from Cole Software? I've used it off and on since the mid-90s and it beats the snot out of TEST|Test Auth. Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send ema

Re: Silly JES2 question

2023-02-27 Thread Steve Thompson
/*$ may be used as a JES2 command.  Now, do you have an exit that looks for this and takes some action? I was studying the JCL REF after not having really read one for 5 or so years, to find new stuff done to/with/for JCL|JECL. Steve Thompson On 2/27/2023 5:19 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: Hi

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Steve Thompson
tting at is IBM was healthy when it had competition relative to z/Arch. While I'm at it, suppose that IBM management had been successful in dumping VM? How would they do cloud? Just wondering.... Steve Thompson On 2/28/2023 4:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:15:25 -

Re: z/VM DASD Performance Reports

2023-03-01 Thread Steve Thompson
You may want to ask in the VM List:  VM-List   This will probably reject giving you info on how to subscribe. I've forgotten how that works. Meanwhile, what monitoring tools do you have for VM other than the VM DASD reporting? Steve Thompson On 3/1/2023 8:40 AM, Jasi Grewal wrote:

Re: One more REXX Question

2023-03-02 Thread Steve Thompson
e and looping finished tomorrow with all I've got going on, but, I will post out here what my results are. BTW I am running under IKJEFT01, and starting ISPF Not sure how you are getting to the LM code. Regards, Steve Thompson On 3/2/2023 6:56 PM, Cameron Conacher wrote: Hello ever

ISPF List

2023-03-03 Thread Steve Thompson
ND stopped supporting ISPF List. Anyone know where it went or if it still exists? Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-08 Thread Steve Thompson
came MVS/SP2 (aka XA). Steve Thompson On 3/8/2023 2:13 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: MVS/SP Version 1.3.8 (for MVS/370) MVS/SP is for running 24 bit programs on 17-64MB real memory. Copyrighted and not available currently. MVS 3.8 is what is freely available, limited to 16MB real memory. On Wed, Mar 8

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-14 Thread Steve Thompson
companies that provide updates via IEBUPDTE, and IEBCOPY, sometimes using ZAP. Don't know how many of those are still viable today. Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send ema

Re: [External] : Re: linklist error at IPL

2023-03-17 Thread Steve Thompson
decades since Boole & Babbage for me. Regardless, if one has such a tool that can get the "NIP Console" output, I think you would be able to catch this problem. Steve Thompson On 3/17/2023 9:24 AM, rpinion865 wrote: If memory serves me right, I think BMC had something in one of t

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-17 Thread Steve Thompson
In American English that is not entirely the case. We do not say Sebra for Zebra, nor do we say Sulu for Zulu. The distinction may be slight, but there is a difference. Just say'n'. Steve Thompson On 3/17/2023 4:34 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: In English the letter 'z' is a vo

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Steve Thompson
cular utility, in my mind, would be something needed. 2042: I don't know enough to have an opinion on this one. Regards, Steve Thompson On 3/24/2023 2:38 PM, Steve Pryor wrote: There are a couple of pressing issues in z/OS that I'm sure many folks are aware of but about which there does

Re: Check my math?

2023-03-24 Thread Steve Thompson
s out as a possibility, and while doing DOS to MVS migrations we had to have some discussions with clients about MVS data set naming rules and what SMS requires. Steve Thompson On 3/24/2023 3:42 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 09:34:02 -0500, John McKown wrote: I got curious abou

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-27 Thread Steve Thompson
+1 for me as well In fact, I have written code to read catalog records, in COBOL, because I needed to solve a problem back in z/OS 1.4 days and I didn't have time to write the code in ALC/HLASM, and management would not purchase tools since they were migrating off mainframes....

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-27 Thread Steve Thompson
Glad to hear that someone followed all the rules so that, unannounced COBOL 5+ didn't cause you packed decimal problems with Truncation and the like. Or same thing with binary. Steve Thompson On 3/27/2023 10:31 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: The last time we mass-converted and recompile

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-27 Thread Steve Thompson
"And, we're not gaining the full benefit because we can't allow it to use vector packed instructions until all sites where the code can run are on compatible hardware." Welcome to the developer's heart burn. Steve Thompson On 3/27/2023 1:43 PM, Schmitt, Michael wrot

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please

2023-03-27 Thread Steve Thompson
o enjoying this thread.  :) Steve Thompson On 3/27/2023 4:17 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: Using my most basic definition of a computer language - it's a list of commands that can be saved to run it multiple times just by invoking the list name, then both JCL and CLIST are languages (as is

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-28 Thread Steve Thompson
e mission and lesson had been accomplished. I think more instructors should do things like this. Steve Thompson On 3/28/2023 5:01 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: With the clever use of GOTOs and the use of different variables with strange names for the same purpose, you can even turn a less than

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-28 Thread Steve Thompson
I just wasn't that devious, but yeah, happens in real shops more than one cares to admit. Steve Thompson On 3/28/2023 6:20 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Ha! I always said if I ever taught programming -- I never have -- I was going to do that -- swap code between students. The other thing

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-29 Thread Steve Thompson
est and if done right ran faster. Of course this was all pre-COBOL-II. Steve Thompson On 3/29/2023 12:24 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 28/3/23 13:56, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: During my early training we were sent to learn Michael Jackson structured programming. I had a few brief years as an ap

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-29 Thread Steve Thompson
If you don't want to retire, then I hope you can find something you really like. Meanwhile, don't signoff. I've noticed too many of us have gone west as they say. Steve Thompson On 3/29/2023 11:16 AM, John McKown wrote: HealthMarkets z9BC is shutting down. User access will

Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall

2023-04-04 Thread Steve Thompson
++1 On 4/4/2023 10:09 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: The language I'd be interested in is PL/X 390. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 6:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fascinating Interview with

Re: Unzip on z/OS ?

2023-04-04 Thread Steve Thompson
to most COBOL programmers. And so it appears that IBM doesn't have many product developers that actually know COBOL. That has been my take-away from that exchange. So you may need to do an RCF, and you may go a few rounds with them. Just say'n'. Steve Thompson On 4/4/202

Re: RCF address [was: RE: JCL EXEC PARM= default?]

2023-04-05 Thread Steve Thompson
I have had the different RCF addresses respond over night to a week or so later depending on time of year and other scheduling (internal to IBM). But they have gotten back to me. Steve Thompson On 4/5/2023 4:22 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: FWIW, I've sent comments to the ibmdocs address from

Re: JESLOG Parameter on JOB Card, executing SUB=MSTR

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Thompson
e the ability to try this on the system I am using. Otherwise I think you have to then issue the equivalent call to JES for this. Steve Thompson On 4/7/2023 1:18 PM, Mark Jacobs wrote: This might be a silly question, but does the JESLOG parameter on a job card do anything when a started job exe

Re: JESLOG Parameter on JOB Card, executing SUB=MSTR

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Thompson
ied DD names if you have an exit in GDPS. Otherwise, GDPS would be a headache/problem to start a replacement and then stop the current running so that the spool could be purged. But, that may actually work for your Netview STCs. Like I said, just blue skying here. Steve Thompson On 4/7/202

Re: U4038 - IGZ0099C Internal error CLOSE-FIB was detected in module IGZ@QSAM.

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Thompson
/corrupted, you will get the msg or ABEND as you specified. Steve Thompson On 4/7/2023 3:20 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: IDCAMS Print will print the record in text and hex. Skip to just get the previous records and attempt the failing record. On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:35 PM Schmitt, Michael wrote

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Thompson
++1 On 4/7/2023 7:43 PM, william janulin wrote: I think everyone should lighten up a bit. We care all professionals and our jobs care demanding enough without getting into trivial " spitting " contests that help no one. This forum should be one that is a tool that all of us can benefit from. J

Re: Cobol calling module with non alphanumeric no longer allowed???

2023-04-09 Thread Steve Thompson
reasons to want this behavior. The major one that comes to mind is you have to have static linkage for running in a CICS environment because the subroutines are not CICS definable (RDO) and so have to be statically linked. Steve Thompson On 4/8/2023 1:50 AM, Farley, Peter wrote: Not true for

Re: Cobol calling module with non alphanumeric no longer allowed???

2023-04-09 Thread Steve Thompson
ogram that used one of those "dual" routine programs (dual from the idea that they were used in both environments). Steve Thompson On 4/9/2023 2:50 PM, Farley, Peter wrote: The only CICS routines that MUST be statically linked are the DFH subroutines that are called as the result

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-10 Thread Steve Thompson
I know, dead horse, but still, this is a reason to start looking at the "Rules of Robotics" and implement them now at the bare metal level if possible. It would thwart malware (well, we can hope). Steve Thompson On 4/10/2023 3:01 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Rex Pommier wrote:

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF usage question

2023-04-14 Thread Steve Thompson
I like that. I would work nicely with REXX. "It is kind of like there needs to be syntax that references messages lines relative to a data line. For example, if there's 3 messages following the data line at relative line number 10, these would be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3."

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Steve Thompson
Yes with a client. They turned that feature off. It was not that they were afraid of malware, it was they were afraid of a "data breach". Steve Thompson On 4/17/2023 6:52 AM, Jack Zukt wrote: Hi all, This is way off topic, sorry, but I am curious, so please be patient In

Re: Unlike data sets concatenation - revised

2023-04-26 Thread Steve Thompson
Isn't this the result of a CCW that does not have the wrong length Record suppression bit on (I think that is what it is called, been a long time since I did any CCWs and SSCH commands). Steve Thompson On 4/26/2023 6:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:44:21 -0700, Mi

Re: COBOL to dynamic DD name

2023-04-28 Thread Steve Thompson
You may want to use BPXWDY2. It dow not require the setting of R0. And it does almost everything that BPXWDYN does. Steve Thompson. PS. Speaking of RCFS, this is one I did an RCF about and I understand there are some updates being done to/with the DOC for examples. On 4/28/2023 3:52 PM

Re: COBOL to dynamic DD name

2023-05-01 Thread Steve Thompson
Whose COBOL are you using on the PC side? If it is Fujitsu's, I think SORT is built in. I'm not sure about the MicroFocus COBOL. I don't have one of their systems. Steve Thompson On 5/1/2023 10:33 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: The data I'm trying to write is mixed up in

Re: REXX parse parens

2023-05-02 Thread Steve Thompson
Nuts. We don't have the power (ok the $$$) to charge a Tesla. Rather silly to have to fire up a gasoline generator to charge that Tesla.  ;-) Just Say'n'. Steve Thompson On 5/2/2023 10:21 AM, David Crayford wrote: Yikes. Not very user friendly and the linkage overhead is

Re: The mainframe is now DOWN

2023-05-02 Thread Steve Thompson
Yes, good luck with your next endeavor and sorry to see another go Dark like this. Steve Thompson On 5/2/2023 10:50 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Best of luck in your next endeavor Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more a

Re: IBM pauses some hiring amid plans to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

2023-05-02 Thread Steve Thompson
it up and read it). So, my thinking is, if AI is used by the wealthy to increase their wealth it will be done on the backs of those least able to prevent it. And why I have said that the Laws of Robotics needs be implemented at the hardware level while we still can. Steve Thompson On 5/2/2023

Re: IBM-MAIN

2023-05-03 Thread Steve Thompson
I think I also triggered this by trying to show why we (the industry) need to pay attention to Asimov's laws of robotics. Sorry, Steve Thompson On 5/3/2023 9:36 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: I seeded the discussion with the idea that our technology has impacts beyond the tech itself.

Re: Listing empty HLQs - LISTCAT? --- morphed to Catalog maint.....

2023-05-12 Thread Steve Thompson
of person, they may have JOBs that never got moved to a production library.  (sigh) And having those REXX tools keeps one from screwing things up when in a hurry. My 2 Cents, Steve Thompson On 5/12/2023 2:49 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: I'm a security geek now, but as most security

Re: VBS file read in windows - end of record issue

2023-05-17 Thread Steve Thompson
Not sure this is correct (VBS sizing). If I remember correctly VBS was handling telemetry data which could be quite long and was also variable in size per record. Steve Thompson On 5/17/2023 2:20 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Well, not really. There is LRECL=X, but besides we have not very

ISPF HILITE Question

2023-05-18 Thread Steve Thompson
know at execution time what the size of the named label is -- "Depending on" is being used). Could someone point me in the approximate correct direction? Or have I stumbled on a situation where ISPF and COBOL 6.x are not in synch? TIA, Steve Thompson ---

Re: ISPF HILITE Question

2023-05-19 Thread Steve Thompson
Thanks for that. I just started experimenting with "functions" in COBOL 6.2 and saw those constructs, and just hadn't tried them yet. Steve Thompson On 5/19/2023 3:58 AM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Yes, the ISPF COBOL highlight is not up to date at the moment. They got up

Architectural questions [WAS: Are Banks Breaking Up With Mainframes? | Forbes]

2023-05-22 Thread Steve Thompson
e bus sizes are it  would report on. Steve Thompson On 5/22/2023 7:52 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 22/5/2023 1:26 pm, Attila Fogarasi wrote: Good point about NUMAand it is still a differentiator and competitive advantage for IBM z. How is NUMA a competitive advantage for z? Superd

Re: Are you serious about wanting a better IBM doc RCF-type process?

2023-05-22 Thread Steve Thompson
tor, client and employee. BTW -- I did vote for Peter's RFE. What an ordeal to get an account to be able to vote on an RFE. Steve Thompson On 5/22/2023 6:33 PM, Mike Shaw wrote: +1 I have been working with IBM z/OS documentation for over 40 years and have submitted many reader comment fo

Re: Architectural questions [WAS: Are Banks Breaking Up With Mainframes? | Forbes]

2023-05-23 Thread Steve Thompson
ptic connections actually could do more bytes/second xfer because of how it was not BUS bound. Steve Thompson On 5/22/2023 8:48 PM, David Crayford wrote: Good question. By bus size I'm assuming that your referring to cache-lines? I wonder how much of a difference that makes with OOO pip

Re: Are you serious about wanting a better IBM doc RCF-type process?

2023-05-23 Thread Steve Thompson
project where we had Univac systems. I realized how much better IBM's manuals were. And so IBM's management is focused on what will keep their bonuses going. And Doc is an expense they want to cut back on This is why we have to make noise. Just say'n' Steve Thompson O

Re: Why does ISPF BROWSE abend with S878 searching a large sequential file?

2023-05-23 Thread Steve Thompson
Have you tried View? It behaves the same as Edit, but does not save. I have found that it handles things a bit better than browse does at times. Steve Thompson On 5/23/2023 4:12 PM, Farley, Peter wrote: This has happened to me twice this afternoon, and several other times in the last few

Re: Architectural questions [WAS: Are Banks Breaking Up With Mainframes? | Forbes]

2023-05-23 Thread Steve Thompson
looks like ARM is going to be a game changer. Steve Thompson On 5/23/2023 10:04 PM, David Crayford wrote: On 24/5/2023 2:24 am, Seymour J Metz wrote: Clocking and bus width are certainly important factors in performance, but they are far from the only factors. 100% agree. Things are a lot mor

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