Re: [Int-area] [Softwires] Errata on RFC 6333, "Dual-Stack Lite Broadband Deployments Following IPv4 Exhaustion"

2021-05-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, I agree with Ian. Actually, the document should use a similar wording in both the section mentioned in the errata report and the one in of 6.3. I’m afraid editorial changes are also needed for 6.3 to avoid any confusion. (1) 5.3: OLD: However, as not all service providers will

Re: [Int-area] IETF 108 Preliminary Agenda

2020-07-02 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, Would it be possible to find another slot for the drip session as it conflicts with the add slot where both drip chairs have drafts to be discussed there. == 1410-1550 Session III Room 2 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Room 3 INT

Re: [Int-area] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020

2020-07-01 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Hannes, It would be helpful if you can explicit the “wrong message” you are referring to, and preferably with text from the draft conveying that message. Thank you. Cheers, Med De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Hannes Tschofenig Envoyé : mardi 30 juin 2020

Re: [Int-area] GUE: IANA Considerations question

2019-10-23 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Tom, Now that you are on the IANA considerations, I would appreciate if you can consider updating it to request a codepoint from the tunnel registry available at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers/smi-numbers.xhtml#smi-numbers-6. More rationale can be found in RFC-to-be-8675

Re: [Int-area] AD sponsoring draft-thaler-iftype-reg-02

2019-06-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Suresh, all, I fully support this effort. I hope the authors can address two comments we received as part of draft-ietf-softwire-iftunnel that I do think belong to this I-D: * Add a clear mention under https://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers/smi-numbers.xhtml#smi-numbers-6 to

Re: [Int-area] registering tunnel types

2018-10-30 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Tom, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : tom petch [mailto:ie...@btconnect.com] > Envoyé : mardi 30 octobre 2018 13:07 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; int-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] registering tunnel types > > - Original Message - >

Re: [Int-area] registering tunnel types

2018-10-29 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joe, all, The various techniques discussed in draft-ietf-softwire-yang were specified in the softwire WG. This is why we are defining in softwire WG, not in another WG, a YANG module for these techniques. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area

Re: [Int-area] registering tunnel types

2018-10-29 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Tom, all, In order to provide a full context, below some precisions: * draft-ietf-softwire-yang DOES NOT create a new registry for maintaining tunnel types nor changes the procedure to assign new code points. Such register does already exist:

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-patterson-intarea-ipoe-health-03.txt

2018-07-02 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Richard, Thank you for promptly addressing the comments. This version is stable enough and ready for a hopefully call for adoption. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Richard Patterson [mailto:rich...@helix.net.nz] > Envoyé : lundi 2 juillet 2018 22:06 > Cc : BOUCADAIR

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-patterson-intarea-ipoe-health-03.txt

2018-07-02 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Richard, Thank you for addressing the comments. The -03 looks good to me. FWIW, I do have some additional comments that you may find at: * PDF: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/draft-patterson-intarea-ipoe-health-03-rev%20Med.pdf * DOC:

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-patterson-intarea-ipoe-health-02.txt

2018-06-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Richard, Thank you for writing this document. FWIW, please find some inputs to this draft: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/draft-patterson-intarea-ipoe-health-02-rev%20Med.pdf (pdf version)

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-05-10 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joe, This is a little bit subtle. RFC6302 is about operating and protecting a server against abuses, denial-of-service, and all the issues discussed in rfc6269#section-13.1. 6302 does not ask a server to enable logging or not: The above recommendations apply to current logging

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-05-09 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, There is no reason to revisit or deprecate RFC6302: · The root technical issues as documented by intarea (RC6269) are still valid. Those issues will be experienced by more and more in the future. · RFC6302 records a valid technical recommendation for servers logging IP

Re: [Int-area] [Softwires] Re: ISP CGN logging inc. Destination ??

2018-05-09 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Rajiv, What concerns me with this requirement is that it nullifies one of the motivations for stateless address sharing: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation-05#section-3.1.3 (Logging - No Need for Dynamic Binding Notifications) especially, this part:

Re: [Int-area] [Softwires] ISP CGN logging inc. Destination ??

2018-05-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Yiu, This may help but this is not sufficient if supplying "Destination IP + Port (public)" is required. Technically the BR may extract and record the destination IPv4 address/port and source IPv6 prefix when doing its stateless decapsulation/translation, but this is not a "native"

Re: [Int-area] [Softwires] ISP CGN logging inc. Destination ??

2018-05-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Ramesh, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Softwires [mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de > ramesh.r.chan...@ril.com > Envoyé : vendredi 4 mai 2018 17:26 > À : ianfar...@gmx.com; raj...@cisco.com > Cc : softwi...@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org >

Re: [Int-area] ISP CGN logging inc. Destination ??

2018-05-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Rajiv, Please check RFC6888 which says the following: REQ-12: A CGN SHOULD NOT log destination addresses or ports unless required to do so for administrative reasons. Cheers, Med De : Softwires [mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Rajiv Asati (rajiva) Envoyé : jeudi 3

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-27 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, I don't parse well the comments from you, Amelia. For example, when you say: "The proposer of more mandatory logging recommendations appears" With all due respect, this is a pure fallacy. Dave's document DOES NOT propose anything new to be logged. He is relaying on existing RFCs.

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-27 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dave, Your affiliation has nothing to do with this discussion. We all are contributing as individuals. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Dave O'Reilly > Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2018 11:31 > À : Amelia Andersdotter >

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Amelia, I reiterate there is no RFC which asks a ***server*** to log IP address for a given time. All what we have is a simple recommendation, saying if you log IP address (for whatever reason), then consider logging source port too to ease investigation in case of abuse, etc. Source

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Amelia > Andersdotter > Envoyé : mercredi 25 avril 2018 14:37 > À : int-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in >

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, I think we are in agreement. Please note there is ** NO RFC ** which mandates logs to be kept 3 days. I guess you are referring to this text from Amelia’s I-D (which reflects the author’s opinion): SHOULD NOT store logs of incoming IP addresses from inbound traffic for longer

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Povl H. Pedersen [mailto:p...@my.terminal.dk] Envoyé : mercredi 25 avril 2018 11:05 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN Cc : int-a...@ietfa.amsl.com Objet : Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Povl, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I have one comment and two clarification questions: - Wouldn’t logging based /20-/22 nullify the interest to log source ports for investigations? Multiple subscribers may be assigned the same port in the /20 or /22 range. - GeoIP (whatever that

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-24 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Thank you Ted for clarifying. Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Ted Lemon [mailto:mel...@fugue.com] Envoyé : mardi 24 avril 2018 15:26 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN Cc : Stephen Farrell; int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal

Re: [Int-area] draft-andersdotter (was RE: WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-24 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Amelia Andersdotter [mailto:ame...@article19.org] > Envoyé : mardi 24 avril 2018 08:09 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; int-area@ietf.org > Cc : Stephen Farrell > Objet : Re: draft-andersdotter (was RE: [Int-area] WG

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-23 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Ted, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Ted Lemon [mailto:mel...@fugue.com] Envoyé : lundi 23 avril 2018 17:55 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN Cc : Stephen Farrell; int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving

[Int-area] draft-andersdotter (was RE: WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-23 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Amelia, Some comments about the main recommendations in draft-andersdotter: SHOULD only store entire incoming IP addresses for as long as is necessary to provide the specific service requested by the user. Med: This is implementation and deployment-specific. Not sure we can

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-23 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Stephen, "I hope that we've learned that we need to do more thorough analyses of the privacy implications of our work." The discussion about privacy implications for 6302 occurred in the past either in intarea list or ietf-privacy: *

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Brian, The issue discussed in this I-D applies each time you have to share an IPv4 address. This covers IPv4 service continuity mechanism with IPv6-only connectivity such as: NAT64, DS-Lite, MAP-E, MAP-T and lw4o6. There is IMHO a value in socializing the IETF BCP and help

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Stephen, The scope of this document is aligned with what the IETF has published in the past in this field. A list is provided below: 1. Identify logging as an issue in address sharing: RFC 6269 2. Require address sharing to enable a logging function: RFC 6269 and RFC 6888

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, I support this document to be adopted as an informational document. Cheers, Med De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Juan Carlos Zuniga Envoyé : jeudi 19 avril 2018 17:38 À : int-area Objet : [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal

Re: [Int-area] Re draft-daveor-cgn-logging-02/RFC6302

2018-04-09 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Dave, The proposed text would work. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Dave O'Reilly [mailto:r...@daveor.com] > Envoyé : lundi 9 avril 2018 14:43 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : int-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Re draft-daveor-cgn-logging-02/RFC6302 > > The

Re: [Int-area] Re draft-daveor-cgn-logging-02/RFC6302

2018-04-09 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Dave, What about: "The entity which owns the server should indicate the required offset to synchronize with a global time source." Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Dave O'Reilly [mailto:r...@daveor.com] > Envoyé : samedi 7 avril 2018 16:31 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN

Re: [Int-area] Re draft-daveor-cgn-logging-02/RFC6302

2018-04-05 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Dave, I have a comment about the proposed update to RFC 6269 (the same comment applies for RFC6302, though). Actually, the proposed NEW text will require an extra effort to align timestamps among the server which maintains the logs, the authorities that relay an abuse claim, and the

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Good suggestion, Tom. Thanks. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 17:39 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : Joe Touch; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-a...@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area]

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 16:37 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv- > a...@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment

[Int-area] Open issue: rfc6040update & SFC

2017-07-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Bob, You asked during your presentation whether SFC is to be marked as N/A. I confirm. SFC encapsulation is not a transport encapsulation. ECN should be managed by the transport encapsulation used within an SFC-enabled domain. You have a long list of encap protocols; it is actually cool to

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Joe Touch > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 21:58 > À : Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-a...@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joe, The text can always be worked out. This is not an IETF LC :) The main point is that we are following your suggestion to define the solution as an application proxy using a dedicated port number. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] >

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, I don't understand your argument here, especially because you are the one who proposed me the following (check mptcp archives, April 20, 2017) which we endorsed in the latest version of the specification: "If that were the case, you'd simply be defining a new application service and

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 18:36 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Erik Kline > Cc : Tom Herbert; Internet Area; tsv-a...@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Joe, As mentioned in a previous message in this thread, TCP-AO extensions (6978) to pass NATs will be required otherwise TCP-AO will fail because of: -Manipulating multiple addresses -At least one of the source IP addresses will be rewritten. The proxy design does not induce a new

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 17:45 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : Joe Touch; tsv-a...@ietf.org; Internet Area > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Erik, That's the intuitive approach to follow but unfortunately the situation is not that obvious to get into. Network providers do not have a control on the servers and the terminals that are enabled by customers behind the CPE. So making use of MPTCP to grab more resources (when

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joe, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Joe Touch Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 01:12 À : Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-a...@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP On 7/18/2017

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Tom, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Tom Herbert > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 00:43 > À : Joe Touch > Cc : tsv-a...@ietf.org; Internet Area > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the

Re: [Int-area] Review> SOCKS 6 Draft

2017-07-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Hosnieh, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Hosnieh Rafiee [mailto:i...@rozanak.com] Envoyé : jeudi 6 juillet 2017 20:09 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] Review> SOCKS 6 Draft Hi Mohamed, Thanks for your email. I had two reasons: 1- I was not aware

Re: [Int-area] SOCKS 6 Draft

2017-07-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Vlad, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Vladimir Olteanu [mailto:vladimir.olte...@cs.pub.ro] Envoyé : vendredi 7 juillet 2017 09:19 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; David Schinazi Cc : Int-area@ietf.org; multipathtcp Objet : Re: [Int-area] SOCKS 6 Draft Hi Mohamed, I'm replying

Re: [Int-area] Review> SOCKS 6 Draft

2017-07-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Hosnieh, Just out of curiosity, is there any particular reason you want to use SOCKS? Did you consider other protocols such as: · https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6887 · https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7652 Thank you. Cheers, Med De : Int-area

Re: [Int-area] [multipathtcp] SOCKS 6 Draft

2017-07-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joe, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] Envoyé : mercredi 5 juillet 2017 18:59 À : Vladimir Olteanu; BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; David Schinazi Cc : multipathtcp; Int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [multipathtcp] [Int-area] SOCKS 6 Draft On 7/5/2017 9:39 AM,

Re: [Int-area] SOCKS 6 Draft

2017-07-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Vladimir, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Vladimir Olteanu [mailto:vladimir.olte...@cs.pub.ro] Envoyé : mercredi 5 juillet 2017 18:39 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; David Schinazi Cc : Int-area@ietf.org; multipathtcp Objet : Re: [Int-area] SOCKS 6 Draft Hi Mohamed, It's great to talk

Re: [Int-area] SOCKS 6 Draft

2017-07-04 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Vladimir, all, (focusing only on this part of the message). I do fully agree that shortening MPTCP connections setup is key. Having 0-RTT is an important requirement for this effort. Achieving it without out-of-band signaling would be even ideal. Can you please elaborate on the benefits of

Re: [Int-area] draft-boucadair-ip-version-5-8-9-historic

2016-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Brian, The purpose is not have this I-D published as an RFC but to follow the procedure as per bullet 2 of https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/designating-rfcs-as-historic.html. Can you take care of creating a status-change document for these RFCs? Thank you. Cheers, Med > -Message

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-07-23 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Alissa, all, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Suresh Krishnan Envoyé : vendredi 20 juin 2014 06:42 À : Alissa Cooper; Internet Area Objet : Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of

[Int-area] L. Eggert's comment (draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios)

2014-07-23 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, Lars raised a point about draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios that is basically to question whether it is worth continuing this effort if no viable solutions can be designed to solve this problem. I do agree this is a fair point. I have several comments to make here: *

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi SM, RFC6302 should be positioned in its context: i.e., how to meet regulatory requirements in some countries when address sharing is in use. A discussion on the background (with a concise discussion on solution flavors and some hints on time duration to store log data) is available at:

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-06-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi SM, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+i...@elandsys.com] Envoyé : mercredi 11 juin 2014 21:10 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); int- a...@ietf.org Objet : RE: [Int-area] Call for adoption of

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-06-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi SM, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+i...@elandsys.com] Envoyé : vendredi 6 juin 2014 14:56 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); int- a...@ietf.org Objet : RE: [Int-area] Call for adoption of

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Stephen, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] Envoyé : vendredi 6 juin 2014 17:59 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Ted Lemon Cc : Brian E Carpenter; ietf-priv...@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area]

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : ietf-privacy [mailto:ietf-privacy-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Stephen Farrell Envoyé : samedi 7 juin 2014 15:21 À : Dan Wing Cc : ietf-priv...@ietf.org; Internet Area; Joe Touch Objet : Re: [ietf-privacy] [Int-area] NAT

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-06-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi SM, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de S Moonesamy Envoyé : jeudi 5 juin 2014 17:20 À : Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Ted, As far as this document is concerned, we are open to address technical concerns. It will be helpful if these concerns are specific enough and hopefully in reference to http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-05. Adding a discussion on potential

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-06 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Ted Lemon [mailto:ted.le...@nominum.com] Envoyé : vendredi 6 juin 2014 12:48 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN Cc : Brian E Carpenter; ietf-priv...@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org; Stephen Farrell Objet : Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy]

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-06-05 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Suresh, Thank you for initiating this call. FWIW, the latest version is -05 not -04: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-05. Unsurprisingly, I'm supportive to see this work adopted in intarea as a companion effort to RFC6269 and RFC6967. Cheers,

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-05 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Stephen, You referred in your message to an old version. The latest version of the document does not include any requirement, it is only an inventory of use cases when problems are encountered. The latest version is available at:

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-05 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, I have two comments: (1) If one missed the following sentences in -04 Below is listed as set of requirements to be used to characterize each use case (discussed in Section 3): and Once this list is stabilized, each use case will be checked against these requirements., then the

[Int-area] TR: I-D Action: draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-05.txt

2014-04-17 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, The new version of the draft tries to address most of the comments received so far. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de internet-dra...@ietf.org Envoyé : vendredi 11 avril 2014 15:28 À :

Re: [Int-area] request to consider sponsoring http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-03-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Brian, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Brian E Carpenter Envoyé : jeudi 6 mars 2014 19:03 À : joel jaeggli Cc : hi...@ietf.org; Internet Area; draft-boucadair-intarea-host-

Re: [Int-area] [hiaps] request to consider sponsoring http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-03-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Ted, It is out of scope of the document to specify solutions but to enumerate the set of cases where issues will be encountered. The use cases identified so far are not specific to a given administrative domain as captured in

[Int-area] draft-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-protocol-01

2013-10-08 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, An updated version of this document is available online. Comments are welcome. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de internet-dra...@ietf.org Envoyé : mardi 8 octobre 2013 11:12 À :

Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt

2013-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Charles, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Charles Eckel (eckelcu) [mailto:ecke...@cisco.com] Envoyé : jeudi 18 juillet 2013 22:07 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN; Reinaldo Penno (repenno); int-area@ietf.org Objet : RE: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for

Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt

2013-07-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Reinaldo, IMHO, deployment considerations are key aspects if you want this model to fly. Having the material in one document is better (at least in early stages to socialize the proposed framework within IETF). Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Reinaldo Penno (repenno)

Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt

2013-07-18 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Charles, all, The idea of an application sending flow characterization messages to the network is interesting. This is an idea which is worth to be discussed and challenged. Thank you for writing this document. The proposed framework makes sense in some contexts but I'm afraid it does not

Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework-01.txt

2013-07-18 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Reinaldo, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Reinaldo Penno (repenno) [mailto:repe...@cisco.com] Envoyé : jeudi 18 juillet 2013 12:41 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN; Charles Eckel (eckelcu); int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification

Re: [Int-area] draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios

2013-05-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Joshua, Apologies for the delay to answer this message. I see your point. I will add it to the list of items to be considered for the next iteration of the document. BTW, -03 already included some of requirements which cover security aspects (see for instance REQ#1, REQ#2, REQ#3,

Re: [Int-area] IP Connectivity Provisioning Profile (draft-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-profile)

2013-04-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, We edited an I-D which proposes a global framework making use of the Connectivity Provisioning Profile. The document is available here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-02 I'm sharing this information as it may be of interest of this working group. Comments

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-08.txt

2013-04-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, This version integrates a second set of comments received during the IESG review. The main changes are as follows: * Clarify the use of HOST_ID common to all interfaces is out of scope * Provide more explanation for the Proxy case * Record two additional limitations for the IP Option

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-07.txt

2013-04-10 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, This version integrates the first set of comments received during the IESG review. The main changes are: * Add a sentence to clarify why no recommendation is included * Add a sentence to clarify a host can be any computer located behind a CPE or directly connected to an

Re: [Int-area] NAT reveal analysis IETF Last Call comments

2013-03-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Suresh, all, A new version incorporating the requested changes is online: The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis There's also a htmlized version available at:

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Brian Haberman [mailto:br...@innovationslab.net] Envoyé : mercredi 13 février 2013 16:04 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN Cc : int-area@ietf.org; draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] AD

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Behcet, I have two comments: * Host identification issue is valid for any address sharing mechanism. This is why the introduction mentions already the following: As reported in [RFC6269https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6269], several issues are encountered when an IP address is shared

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya2...@gmail.com] Envoyé : mercredi 13 février 2013 18:01 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN Cc : Suresh Krishnan; Brian Haberman; draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org;

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Brian, Many thanks for the detailed review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Brian Haberman Envoyé : lundi 11 février 2013 22:12 À : int-area@ietf.org;

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Suresh, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Suresh Krishnan [mailto:suresh.krish...@ericsson.com] Envoyé : mercredi 13 février 2013 07:17 À : Brian Haberman Cc : int-area@ietf.org; draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] AD

Re: [Int-area] draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios

2012-12-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Tina, Thank you for the clarification. I updated the draft with a pointer to SLNAT44. I prefer to not modify fig.6 (keep it simple + we are not dealing with signalling flows issued from the UE). Thanks for the review. Cheers, Med De : Tina TSOU

Re: [Int-area] draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios

2012-12-04 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Wes, Thank you for your comments. Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : George, Wes [mailto:wesley.geo...@twcable.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 décembre 2012 21:09 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN; f...@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org Cc :

[Int-area] draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios

2012-12-03 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, We submitted an updated version of this draft to list use cases which encounter the issue of host identification. The following use cases are discussed in the draft: (1) Carrier Grade NAT (CGN) (2) A+P (e.g., MAP ) (3) Application Proxies (4) Provider Wi-Fi (5)

Re: [Int-area] IP Connectivity Provisioning Profile (draft-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-profile)

2012-10-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Scott, As currently defined in draft-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-profile, IRS level is not in the scope. IRS does not intervene in the same level as the proposed CPP but some IRS actions (e.g., tweak RIB entries, add a new routing topology (using MT-ISIS or MT-OSPF) or adding a

Re: [Int-area] Nat Reveal Analysis

2012-08-21 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, If /128 is used to enforce the policies then there is no issue at all. The point is that using /128 to black list a spammer for instance is not efficient; that's why it is likely servers will use the first 64 bits (or even /56) to install a filterthe damage can be restricted to a

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-04.txt

2012-08-21 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, This version integrates the comments from J. Halpern. Many thanks to Joel for the review. A diff is provided below to see the changes. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de

Re: [Int-area] Nat Reveal Analysis

2012-08-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Joel, Thank you for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Joel M. Halpern Envoyé : lundi 20 août 2012 22:52 À : Internet Area Objet : [Int-area] Nat Reveal Analysis My

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-03.txt

2012-08-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, The main changes are: * Remove the recommendation text * Add a new solution using an out-of-band mechanism (IDENT) * Add a reference to A+P * Several editorial changes to integrate the comments received during WGLC A diff link is provided below. Cheers, Med -Message

Re: [Int-area] Comments on draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-08-01 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear SM, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : SM [mailto:s...@resistor.net] Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2012 00:15 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : int-area@ietf.org Objet : RE: [Int-area] Comments on draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02 Hi Med, At 01:17

Re: [Int-area] Completion of working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-27 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Behcet, The argument I heard in Paris meeting for including a recommendation is to help vendors to select the solution to implement in their devices. They can not provide the same feature using 8 implementation options. That argument makes sense to me. Now, as I said earlier, I will

Re: [Int-area] ACTION REQUIRED: Extending working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Joe, all, Apologies for the delay to answer (I was out of office). I have no problem to remove Section 3.3 if this is what the WG wants. As a reminder, I added that section after the Paris meeting in accordance with what I heard in the meeting: more voices in favour of adding a

Re: [Int-area] ACTION REQUIRED: Extending working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Lars, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Eggert, Lars Envoyé : vendredi 6 juillet 2012 09:40 À : Alissa Cooper Cc : Internet Area Objet : Re: [Int-area] ACTION REQUIRED: Extending

Re: [Int-area] Comments on draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Wes, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Wesley Eddy Envoyé : mardi 10 juillet 2012 01:26 À : Tina TSOU Cc : int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] Comments on

Re: [Int-area] Comments on draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear SM, Apologies for the delay to answer. Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de SM Envoyé : samedi 7 juillet 2012 10:41 À : int-area@ietf.org Objet : [Int-area] Comments on

Re: [Int-area] Completion of working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Suresh, all, After reading received comments, the major point we need to discuss is whether the WG wants to remove Section 3.3 or maintain it. I'm waiting for a feedback from the WG for the direction to take. I will implement any change requested by the WG. Cheers, Med -Message

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