[JAWS-Users] Replay Radio?

[JM Casey]

Hey folks.

 

I was looking through a bunch of old stuff, and came across a backup I made
of this software years ago along with recordings of my old radio show. I
used it on an XP machine, and at that time it was at version 7. I remember
it was a very neat programme and also rather accessible without much
fiddling around.

 

Out of curiosity I did a google search and was slightly surprised to
discover that Replay is still around. They're at version 11 now and from
looking at their page it seems like they focus a lot more on mobile devices
and a subscription service. They are also touting this "media guide" as the
best way to use the thing, but I wouldn't be likely too interested in that.
I'd probably just want to plug in a URL and port number and time like I used
to do and have the programme record while I'm away from the computer. As
this was a nice programme back in the day and came bundled with a few useful
utilities, though, I wondered if anyone still uses it? Has the experience
changed much?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] going back to previous version of jaws

[JM Casey]

That seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to visit a website.

Although I understand problems can occur, JAWS versions are *supposed* to
operate independently and you are *supposed* to be able to have as many
different versions installed on your machine as you like. Now I'm curious if
people have run into problems with shared dlls or whatever?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
PeterTighe
Sent: July 18, 2018 7:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] going back to previous version of jaws

I have a friend who needs to use Jaws version 14 for a particular web site.

 

I have advised her to uninstall all later versions of Jaws before installing
version 14.

 

Does she also need to uninstall shared components?

 

Thanks,

 

Peter

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Any tips on reading websites with text in graphics?

[JM Casey]

Try converting the page to a PDF file. In Windows 10 you can do this with
"microsoft pdf printer" or something like that (sorry, I can't remember the
name) using the print option in your browser. Once that's done, you can try
using the JAWS OCR feature to recognise text within graphics.

This might work in theory, but to be honest, I haven't had a great time with
JAWS OCR at all. Fortunately Adobe Acrobat Pro + Windows 10 can oCR
documents on their own.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Greg Washington
Sent: July 18, 2018 6:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Any tips on reading websites with text in graphics?

I have been running into web pages that seem to have the text of articles in
a graphic format that I cannot get Jaws to read.  I am using latest Jaws
2018 on a computer with latest Windows 10.  Very frustrating.  Any
suggestions?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue

[JM Casey]

I've had it fail a couple of times, but if the download didn't complete, you
wouldn't be able to install the update at all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Andy Baracco
Sent: July 18, 2018 5:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue

I have never had trouble with the JAWS update utility.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue


> Hi Jerry,
> I would abandon the update Jaws route in the future,
> and just download the new release from their website and run it.
> The update feature in Jaws doesn't always work correctly, and the download
> process
> appears to be rather slow compared to directly downloading the executable.
> You shouldn't miss out on new releases, Mike posts them to the list when
> they are available.
> Just a thought!
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue
>
>
> Afternoon all.
>
> Upon installing the latest update via the laptop update reminder, I had 
> the
> system restart. After restarting, I got (via sighted assistance) an error
> message about a dll file being missing. So, again with sighted assistance,

> I
> had to go to the fs sight, download my version of JAWS 2018, and run a
> repair. Has anyone ever gotten this message, and is there a way to prevent
> this from happening again. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell 
> laptop.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jerry
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible dice roler

[JM Casey]

That's interesting. Didn't know about these folks. Are they still around?
Looks like the "What's new" page hasn't been updated in about four years.

All that said, Justin, did you not try the website I gave you from Wizards
of the Coast after you posted your question?


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Aubertin, Gerry
Sent: July 18, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible dice roler

Hi Folks:

   GMAGAMES, a well-known maker of games for the blind has a dice rolling
program that is free. They are at www.gmagames.com



Gerry Aubertin
Programmer/Analyst
Phone: (519) 273-8702

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating to 2018 from 15

[JM Casey]

Your JAWS will just install independently of the previous version. JAWS 15
will still be on your computer and available.

As for outlook, you should probably export (read back up) your data just in
case. However it is supposed to not touch such things. Indeed, when I made
the switch from Outlook 2010 a few weeks back, I didn't have to use the
backup.



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wayne smith
Sent: July 18, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updating to 2018 from 15

Hello all-

 

For those who have multiple versions of JAWS running on a machine, if I
download 2018 and I have 15 running will I be able to keep the previous
version automatically or do I need to do something to have both versions
available to me?  

   If I update from Outlook 2007 to 2016 for my emails will it keep the
folders and emails that I have previously created?

 

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue

[JM Casey]

I haven't, but missing or corrupt dlls can happen with various programme
instalations from time to time.

This is one reason why it is helpful to have two or more screen-readers on
your computer.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 18, 2018 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue

Afternoon all.

Upon installing the latest update via the laptop update reminder, I had the
system restart. After restarting, I got (via sighted assistance) an error
message about a dll file being missing. So, again with sighted assistance, I
had to go to the fs sight, download my version of JAWS 2018, and run a
repair. Has anyone ever gotten this message, and is there a way to prevent
this from happening again. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.
Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365

[JM Casey]

You might still want to join Office 365, but it is a subscription service
that might or might not include Office 2016 for desktop.
I know it's a bit confusing.
See this page for info.
http://blog.goptg.com/blog/2015/09/24/office-2016-vs-office-365-whats-the-di
fference

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Vicki W.
Sent: July 17, 2018 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365

I guess I was under the impression that you could purchase a stand-alone
version of Office 365.


- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365


> It sounds like you want to purchase Office 2016, and not Office 365, which
> is a subscription-based service. For multiple licenses, I think you'll 
> need
> to get at least the home/business version. As far as I know there are 
> three
> "grades" of office suite: personal, home/business and professional. I know
> the personal version does not come with multiple licenses. The 
> home/business
> might be three, but I can't remember for sure, so you'll have to look into
> it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
> Of
> Vicki W.
> Sent: July 17, 2018 11:21 AM
> To: JAWS 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365
>
> I am wanting to purchase Office 365, but I'm not sure which version to
> purchase and if it makes a difference when using it with JAWS.
>
> I want the version that is strictly on my computer not in the cloud. I 
> want
> multiple licenses so I can use it on multiple computers.
>
> So, what am I looking for as far as the name and best to use with JAWS? I
> will be doing this on Amazon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Filling out a Form from a PDF File

[JM Casey]

You should be able to do this using Acrobat. If it doesn't work, it's likely
that the form is not configured correctly by the person(s) who created it.
You'd likely have to take it up with them, in that case. In my experience,
most government-related forms in Canada and the US are perfectly accessible,
but mileage with other things may vary.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
kerstetter...@gmail.com
Sent: July 17, 2018 10:49 AM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Filling out a Form from a PDF File

Hello all.

 

I have a pdf file which is a claim form that needs to be filled out.  Is
there a way to do this in acrobat reader or word 2016?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365

[JM Casey]

It sounds like you want to purchase Office 2016, and not Office 365, which
is a subscription-based service. For multiple licenses, I think you'll need
to get at least the home/business version. As far as I know there are three
"grades" of office suite: personal, home/business and professional. I know
the personal version does not come with multiple licenses. The home/business
might be three, but I can't remember for sure, so you'll have to look into
it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Vicki W.
Sent: July 17, 2018 11:21 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] purchasing Office 365

I am wanting to purchase Office 365, but I'm not sure which version to
purchase and if it makes a difference when using it with JAWS.

I want the version that is strictly on my computer not in the cloud. I want
multiple licenses so I can use it on multiple computers.

So, what am I looking for as far as the name and best to use with JAWS? I
will be doing this on Amazon.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

[JM Casey]

Splendid. Glad it worked. It does seem that office needs this little "tune-up" 
from time to time as parts of it seem to get broken due to updates not 
happening correctly or something else.

No charge, just buy me a beer. :P

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Got it. After finding my office program, I did the applications key, arrowed 
down to change, and there was the repair option. We will wait and see what 
happens next. Thanks for the tech help. Send me a bill (preferrably a fifty or 
hundred lol).


-Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 5:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Ok. I just did this about a month ago for my old Office 2010 instalation, 
because it would actually not let me uninstall it until I had performed a 
repair as something was broken. I'm now looking at Office 2016 in control 
panel, and I do not see a repair option. I discovered though that I can do this 
through the "modify" button in the settings app. Unfortunate as I much prefer 
control panel, but it seems Microsoft considers the settings app to be priority 
now and is trying to get people to use that for most things. The control 
panel/settings dichotomy is one of the most hilarious things about Windows 10, 
which is an oS I generally do like.

However, you might have this option in Control panel, especially as you are 
using an older version of Office. , so I'll try and tell you what I did. No 
guarantees that this won't be slightly different for your experience, but try 
this:

Hit windows key + r to open the run dialog box.
Type "control" (without quotes obviously) and hit enter Control panel will open.
Hit "p" three times or so, and "programs and features" will be announced. 
Hit enter.
Now you can use first letter navigation to get to your "microsoft office".
Hit the applications key and you should see, at the very least, "uninstall" 
and "change". Maybe there will also be a "repair" option there. If not, try 
"change" and see what happens. Once you pick an option from that menu, remember 
that the user account control box will likely open and you will have to hit 
alt-y to click "yes".

If you have to do this through the settings app instead, as I now apparently 
do, the steps will be a bit different. The way I get there is to hit windows 
key to open the search box, and type "apps". You should hear "apps and 
features" if you do this. You can hit enter there. You'll see a list of 
installed stuff. Unfortunately these pesky new Windows apps won't let you use 
first letter navigation, so you'll just have to use your arrow keys and/or page 
down until you get to what you want, or you can type "office" 
into the search box, which will probably also work.

Read this page for more help with this.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Repair-an-Office-application-7821d4b6-7c1d-4205-aa0e-a6b40c5bb88b

I sympathise if you find this method a little annoying; I personally wish 
Microsoft just kept everything in control panel, but that's just not the way 
it's going.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Could you supply the instruction for the control panel option, please?

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

No idea really. But maybe try doing a repair of your office instalation from 
within control panel. It does seem to fix some problems related to corruption 
of Office. Just let the repair run while you do other things; it can take 
several minutes. If it doesn't fix the problem, try searching around web forums 
for others who have had similar issues. Bleeping Computer is a good one. There 
are Microsoft Support forums as well.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Afternoon all.

Using JAWS 2018, Word 13 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I am having a really 
odd problem.

When I go to open Word 13, I get several strange messages. The first one says 
that I do not have sufficient memory or disk space to perform the requested 
operation. When I press enter on the “okay” button, wordword opens a blank 
document. Another time, after attempting to open word 13, I got a message that 
there are too many fo

Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

[JM Casey]

Ok. I just did this about a month ago for my old Office 2010 instalation, 
because it would actually not let me uninstall it until I had performed a 
repair as something was broken. I'm now looking at Office 2016 in control 
panel, and I do not see a repair option. I discovered though that I can do this 
through the "modify" button in the settings app. Unfortunate as I much prefer 
control panel, but it seems Microsoft considers the settings app to be priority 
now and is trying to get people to use that for most things. The control 
panel/settings dichotomy is one of the most hilarious things about Windows 10, 
which is an oS I generally do like.

However, you might have this option in Control panel, especially as you are 
using an older version of Office. , so I'll try and tell you what I did. No 
guarantees that this won't be slightly different for your experience, but try 
this:

Hit windows key + r to open the run dialog box.
Type "control" (without quotes obviously) and hit enter
Control panel will open.
Hit "p" three times or so, and "programs and features" will be announced. Hit 
enter.
Now you can use first letter navigation to get to your "microsoft office". 
Hit the applications key and you should see, at the very least, "uninstall" and 
"change". Maybe there will also be a "repair" option there. If not, try 
"change" and see what happens. Once you pick an option from that menu, remember 
that the user account control box will likely open and you will have to hit 
alt-y to click "yes".

If you have to do this through the settings app instead, as I now apparently 
do, the steps will be a bit different. The way I get there is to hit windows 
key to open the search box, and type "apps". You should hear "apps and 
features" if you do this. You can hit enter there. You'll see a list of 
installed stuff. Unfortunately these pesky new Windows apps won't let you use 
first letter navigation, so you'll just have to use your arrow keys and/or page 
down until you get to what you want, or you can type "office" into the search 
box, which will probably also work.

Read this page for more help with this.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Repair-an-Office-application-7821d4b6-7c1d-4205-aa0e-a6b40c5bb88b

I sympathise if you find this method a little annoying; I personally wish 
Microsoft just kept everything in control panel, but that's just not the way 
it's going.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Could you supply the instruction for the control panel option, please?

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

No idea really. But maybe try doing a repair of your office instalation from 
within control panel. It does seem to fix some problems related to corruption 
of Office. Just let the repair run while you do other things; it can take 
several minutes. If it doesn't fix the problem, try searching around web forums 
for others who have had similar issues. Bleeping Computer is a good one. There 
are Microsoft Support forums as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Afternoon all.

Using JAWS 2018, Word 13 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I am having a really 
odd problem.

When I go to open Word 13, I get several strange messages. The first one says 
that I do not have sufficient memory or disk space to perform the requested 
operation. When I press enter on the “okay” button, wordword opens a blank 
document. Another time, after attempting to open word 13, I got a message that 
there are too many fonts to open the document.

Has anyone ever gotten these messages, and if so, what was the solution, if 
there is one? Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a Zipped File

[JM Casey]

Ah, there you go!

Just remember that Windows 10 has native support for zip archives. So
there's really not much you have to do. You should however still be able to
extract the files from that zip archive if you want to.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 3:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a Zipped File

My apologies. I did not pay attention to the extension, and when I pressed
enter on the file, it opened up in Duxbury. Again, my apologies. Thanks for
the assistance.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a Zipped File

What happens when you press enter on the file(s?) Does the "open with"
dialogue open?

Windows 10 treats zip files as folders. So when you press enter, you should
actually be inside the zip archive and able to view and even work with the
individual files.

The options in the context menu will  probably say "extract", which is what
you want to do if you want to dump all the files from the zip archive into
an actual folder on your system.


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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening a Zipped File

Afternoon all.

I just downloaded several zipped files for braille lessons. However, when I
went to the context menu i.e. Shift F10, there was no option for unzipping
the file. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Any
thoughts/ideas/suggestions will be deeply appreciated.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

[JM Casey]

No idea really. But maybe try doing a repair of your office instalation from 
within control panel. It does seem to fix some problems related to corruption 
of Office. Just let the repair run while you do other things; it can take 
several minutes. If it doesn't fix the problem, try searching around web forums 
for others who have had similar issues. Bleeping Computer is a good one. There 
are Microsoft Support forums as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 13 and Windows 10 Inquiry

Afternoon all.

Using JAWS 2018, Word 13 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I am having a really 
odd problem.

When I go to open Word 13, I get several strange messages. The first one says 
that I do not have sufficient memory or disk space to perform the requested 
operation. When I press enter on the “okay” button, wordword opens a blank 
document. Another time, after attempting to open word 13, I got a message that 
there are too many fonts to open the document.

Has anyone ever gotten these messages, and if so, what was the solution, if 
there is one? Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a Zipped File

[JM Casey]

What happens when you press enter on the file(s?) Does the "open with"
dialogue open?

Windows 10 treats zip files as folders. So when you press enter, you should
actually be inside the zip archive and able to view and even work with the
individual files.

The options in the context menu will  probably say "extract", which is what
you want to do if you want to dump all the files from the zip archive into
an actual folder on your system.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: July 16, 2018 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening a Zipped File

Afternoon all.

I just downloaded several zipped files for braille lessons. However, when I
went to the context menu i.e. Shift F10, there was no option for unzipping
the file. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Any
thoughts/ideas/suggestions will be deeply appreciated.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible dice roler

[JM Casey]

I don't really play nowadays and haven't in a long time. But after reading
your question and thinking first that this could be easily done in Windows
Powershell on your machine, I then thought, crap, there's probably lots of
stuff on the web that can do this.
And, indeed, there is. Try this. Seems straightforward, although I'm not
really sure what the radio buttons do?
https://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm

Experiment with it.

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Sent: July 13, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible dice roler

Does anyone know of an accessible  dice roler for d and d?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to enable first letter navigation when you're in a folder?

[JM Casey]

Cheers, Mike; glad you got it sorted. I remembered this because I was poking
around in the various folder settings recently trying to get everything to
display in the same view, and have also been taking advantage of the search
box. The search box in file explorer is great, but yeah, sometimes you just
want first navigation, so really, you should have both available to you!



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike O'Brien
Sent: July 13, 2018 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to enable first letter navigation when you're
in a folder?

Hi JM

That was exactly the setting I was looking for.  When I changed
automatically type into the search box to select typed item in the view,
first letter navigation worked very well

Thank you very much.

Mike


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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 03:05
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to enable first letter navigation when you're
in a folder?




Hey.

There is a setting in file explorer  options, in the tree view under the
"view" tab, which says "automatically type into the search box". You'll find
this under 'when typing in the list view", I believe. Maybe this setting is
checked in your new account.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike O'Brien
Sent: July 12, 2018 2:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to enable first letter navigation when you're in a
folder?

Hi

I recently added a 2nd administrator account to   a Windows 10 1803 computer
When I am logged onto that account and navigate into a folder, I can use
first letter navigation to find the file I want and press enter to open it.
But when I am logged onto the new User account and navigate into a folder,
when I press a key for first letter navigation, a search box appears
containing that character.  So I can't just press enter to open that file.

So are there settings which will make first letter navigation in the new
user account work like it does in the first user account?

I will be sincerely grateful for any assistance.

Thank you in advance.

Mike



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

[JM Casey]

I think Outlook 2010 has the ribbon. Must have been the first one.

I agree that the risk shouldn't be that great. Starting with maybe 2007 or
2010, Microsoft changed the default extensions for documents and created a
different set for documents that were macro-enabled. As far as I know,
macros are the biggest potential vulnerability for non-network/sharing
users. If you get a word document that has the .docx extension, for
instance, it can't contain any macros. In theory, macros are all fine and
good, but if you receive a file from the internet and it has the wrong
extension, and you're not expecting anything fancy, you know something weird
is up. In other words, use good sense and you should be ok.

However, you have that programme that enables you to acquire newer versions,
so there's no reason (imo) not to take advantage of it.

   


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Steve
Sent: July 12, 2018 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

Unfortunately, the newer Office suites have gone to the ribbon type menu, so
it will be different than Office 2007.  I think Outlook did not use ribbons
in 2010 yet, but since your Office 2007 is expiring, I'd guess 2010 is going
to be getting long in the tooth.

You can still use Office 2007, but I think those notifications mean that you
won't get any security rollouts for Office 2007 any more.  In just about
every monthly Windows update that comes out on the second Tuesday of the
month, there are usually updates for various Office programs.  I have Office
2010 Pro and routinely receive updates for the program, Word 2010, Excel and
Outlook quite often; almost every month.

So, you can use 2007, I suspect, but you just won't get any security
patches.  So, it is use-at-your-own-risk.  Personally, I don't think the
risk is as great as it is with using a web browser or an out-of-date Windows
system, but I don't want to overly minimalize the risks.

In other words, if you choose to use Office 2007, just beware that there
will be some inherent vulnerabilities the longer you go past the
end-of-support period.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: "wayne smith" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:27 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite


> Well, it is here. I am getting notices from Microsoft that my MS Office 
> 2007
> is no longer supported. I have basic needs and do not want to have to
> relearn everything again if I don't have to. I can upgrade through my 
> school
> to something less than 365.  I could use some advice as to which MS Office
> is most constant with the older version. I have used 2010 and it worked
> reasonable well. I Have Windows 7 and JAWS 15 but I do have upgrades to
> current versions that I have not used. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 
> On
> a related note I currently have my emails sent to my MS Outlook 2007. If I
> upgrade will the folders that I have created automatically export to say
> Outlook 2016?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

[JM Casey]

I got a sweet deal on Office 2016 and I specifically did not want Office 365
as I feel rather opposed to the subscription-based approach to software.
However, from a certain perspective, it does make sense. So, it's up to you.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Jim Pursley
Sent: July 12, 2018 8:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

We just upgraded to Office 365 from Thunderbird email client and Office
2010.  I don't do much with Word, but with O365 I didn't need to uninstall
anything.  Just got a Microsoft account, bought the O365 home with 5
connections and so far it's running pretty smoothly.  I've never used
Outlook, so I kept Tbird.  After a few days (I'll read the FS tutorial on
Outlook I bought recently) I can do everyday stuff like send, receive,
forward, etc.  Bottom line, I've not found Office 2016 (which I downloaded)
much different than 2010-especially for Excel which I constantly use.  I
even see some benefits to Outlook over Thunderbird.  The exchange server we
had to get with O365 works faster and more reliably than our former server
of the POP variety.  So..kicking and screaming I upgraded and survived with
a growing smile on my face.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

Hey Wayne.

I just upgraded from office 2010 32-bit to 2016 64-bit. I used 2016 before
at my old work and found that it worked really well with jAWS 18 except for
the semi-usual jAWS crashes, which I recently discovered seem less of an
issue if you stick to good ole' Eloquence. I do find that certain things,
like the spell-check, seems to work better in 2016.

I would upgrade to 2016 because it's the latest non-365 version and will
continue to be supported for quite some time. 

I made a backup of my outlook data using the export feature. In the end,
even though I had to uninstall Office completely in order to install the new
version, those files were retained in my data folders and so I did not end
up needing to use the backup. The same should be true for you, but just
backup the folders anyway, just in case.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
wayne smith
Sent: July 12, 2018 8:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

Well, it is here. I am getting notices from Microsoft that my MS Office 2007
is no longer supported. I have basic needs and do not want to have to
relearn everything again if I don't have to. I can upgrade through my school
to something less than 365.  I could use some advice as to which MS Office
is most constant with the older version. I have used 2010 and it worked
reasonable well. I Have Windows 7 and JAWS 15 but I do have upgrades to
current versions that I have not used. Any thoughts would be appreciated. On
a related note I currently have my emails sent to my MS Outlook 2007. If I
upgrade will the folders that I have created automatically export to say
Outlook 2016?

 

Thanks for any help,

 

Wayne

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

[JM Casey]

Hey Wayne.

I just upgraded from office 2010 32-bit to 2016 64-bit. I used 2016 before
at my old work and found that it worked really well with jAWS 18 except for
the semi-usual jAWS crashes, which I recently discovered seem less of an
issue if you stick to good ole' Eloquence. I do find that certain things,
like the spell-check, seems to work better in 2016.

I would upgrade to 2016 because it's the latest non-365 version and will
continue to be supported for quite some time. 

I made a backup of my outlook data using the export feature. In the end,
even though I had to uninstall Office completely in order to install the new
version, those files were retained in my data folders and so I did not end
up needing to use the backup. The same should be true for you, but just
backup the folders anyway, just in case.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
wayne smith
Sent: July 12, 2018 8:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

Well, it is here. I am getting notices from Microsoft that my MS Office 2007
is no longer supported. I have basic needs and do not want to have to
relearn everything again if I don't have to. I can upgrade through my school
to something less than 365.  I could use some advice as to which MS Office
is most constant with the older version. I have used 2010 and it worked
reasonable well. I Have Windows 7 and JAWS 15 but I do have upgrades to
current versions that I have not used. Any thoughts would be appreciated. On
a related note I currently have my emails sent to my MS Outlook 2007. If I
upgrade will the folders that I have created automatically export to say
Outlook 2016?

 

Thanks for any help,

 

Wayne

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to enable first letter navigation when you're in a folder?

[JM Casey]

Hey.

There is a setting in file explorer  options, in the tree view under the
"view" tab, which says "automatically type into the search box". You'll find
this under 'when typing in the list view", I believe. Maybe this setting is
checked in your new account.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike O'Brien
Sent: July 12, 2018 2:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to enable first letter navigation when you're in a
folder?

Hi

I recently added a 2nd administrator account to   a Windows 10 1803 computer
When I am logged onto that account and navigate into a folder, I can use
first letter navigation to find the file I want and press enter to open it.
But when I am logged onto the new User account and navigate into a folder,
when I press a key for first letter navigation, a search box appears
containing that character.  So I can't just press enter to open that file.

So are there settings which will make first letter navigation in the new
user account work like it does in the first user account?

I will be sincerely grateful for any assistance.

Thank you in advance.

Mike



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Re: [JAWS-Users] formatting an ex drive

[JM Casey]

Huh. That's interesting. I've never had the "format" command not work.  By
"ex" drive, you mean external, right?

Well, at least you got it now.



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Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 8, 2018 7:49 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] formatting an ex drive

Well after 2 days of trying I finally called microsoft. After he explained
the process was so simple. I kept trying to use the run command and the old
dos format command syntax. It looked like it would work even asking for a
new name. Then nothing. I left it run for over 20 hours with not finishing.
After calling he told me that that will not work. I was to use windows
explorer then f6 to get to the correct area. When I found the ex drive use
the applications key. Arrow down to format and the rest was quite easy. It
took less than 2 minutes to bring my drive from fat32 back to ntfs.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need to read a .BMP file

[JM Casey]

Huh. It never does, does it? j/k.

I take it then you don't have an OCR package installed on your system? Open
Book is the one Freedom Scientific sells. I always found it prohibitively
expensive. I'm planning to purchase Abbyy Finereader sometime soon as the
price is very reasonable, but I just haven't got round to it, and so I can't
check to see if it can do this, however it is supposed to be able to work on
image files, too, which, I assume, would include .bmps. Even if it doesn't,
you can probably convert the file to a workable format.

Actually that reminds me of something ou could try. In your context menu for
the bitmap image there might be a "convert to adobe PDF" option. I have one,
but I'm not absolutely sure where the menu item comes from -- as in, if it
originates in Windows, or with Adobe Acrobat Pro, which I have on here. In
any case, if you can perform this operation, you could try opening the .pdf
in Reader/Acrobat and then attempting to oCR the document with the JAWS
feature.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Vicki W.
Sent: July 7, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need to read a .BMP file

There is definitely text and recognize with JAWS doesn't work.


- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2018 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need to read a .BMP file


> JAWS 2018 has the Convenient oCR feature. See if 'recognize with jaws" or
> something like that is available in your context menu. I don't think bmp
> files are generally used by scanning software though; are you sure there's
> text in there?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
> Of
> Vicki W.
> Sent: July 7, 2018 2:48 PM
> To: JAWS 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] need to read a .BMP file
>
> I am using both JAWS 14 & 2018. I need to either somehow read the current
> .BMP file or convert it to a readable format.
>
> Any suggestions. Neither JAWS is working.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pictures On A Page

[JM Casey]

Er, and by "right mouse button", of course, I really mean the simulated one;
the asterisk key on your number pad.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Sent: July 8, 2018 3:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pictures On A Page

Hey.

Try using the right mouse button instead of the applications key. It should
work. The mouse cursor needs to be on the image, but I think the virtual
cursor and the mouse cursor are usually linked anyway. If not, just route
the JAWS cursor to that position and try it. 



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Glenn At Home
Sent: July 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pictures On A Page

Hi,
I used to be able to do this with pages a couple years ago, but web content
is always changing its ways.
In the past, such as on FaceBook, if I wanted to download a picture that is
on the page, I'd press G for graphic, and I could use the applications key
to "save target as..."
and I could download the picture.
This does not seem to work any longer.
What is another method of downloading a picture that is on a web page?
Thanks.

Glenn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pictures On A Page

[JM Casey]

Hey.

Try using the right mouse button instead of the applications key. It should
work. The mouse cursor needs to be on the image, but I think the virtual
cursor and the mouse cursor are usually linked anyway. If not, just route
the JAWS cursor to that position and try it. 



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Glenn At Home
Sent: July 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pictures On A Page

Hi,
I used to be able to do this with pages a couple years ago, but web content
is always changing its ways.
In the past, such as on FaceBook, if I wanted to download a picture that is
on the page, I'd press G for graphic, and I could use the applications key
to "save target as..."
and I could download the picture.
This does not seem to work any longer.
What is another method of downloading a picture that is on a web page?
Thanks.

Glenn


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would be in such keeping as our souls are now."
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need to read a .BMP file

[JM Casey]

JAWS 2018 has the Convenient oCR feature. See if 'recognize with jaws" or
something like that is available in your context menu. I don't think bmp
files are generally used by scanning software though; are you sure there's
text in there?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Vicki W.
Sent: July 7, 2018 2:48 PM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need to read a .BMP file

I am using both JAWS 14 & 2018. I need to either somehow read the current
.BMP file or convert it to a readable format.

Any suggestions. Neither JAWS is working.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] why not copy files

[JM Casey]

Sounds like a real pain.

I suppose that's why techies usually carry around a bag full of cables and
other oddments; you never know when they're going to be essential.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 10:37 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] why not copy files

There was a question asked about why I just did not copy the files. I have
only one cable readily available. I did not want to use my grandson's
computer since he now just has zoom text installed. To get at his cable you
have to pull out his computer desk and reach behind to try and find the
cable where it plugs in. If I would have access to the cable that would have
been my first try. Hind sight being 20/20 I should have pulled out his desk.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pages Speaking in Mexican

[JM Casey]

That won't change the actual language on the page, only the
synth/proununciation data JAWS uses. I have actually seen  this happen
though; JAWS switches to french (or something else) because it thinks it
detects that language being used. It might just be a small section on a page
or whatever, but for some reason, jAWS won't return to english mode.

However that doesn't sound like the problem here; seems like the actual page
is in Spanish, unless I misread the OP?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: July 7, 2018 1:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pages Speaking in Mexican

i don't know if this would apply to you. but with the browser opened open
the control center with jaws 6 open general and check in text processing.
there is a option to detect  language and un check it.

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Ervin
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 7:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pages Speaking in Mexican

Hi,In both Internet Explorer, and on Chrome, I have some pages defaulting to
Mexican.The rest of my computer stays on English, but in Ancestry.com, it
goes to Mexican, as that is what it sounds like, and in the address bar,
there is .MX in place of .Com.So I changed it for a while, and then I went
to check out with PayPal for Ancestry.com, and that came up in Mexican
again, but there was no MX to change here.Jaws reads the page element
controls in English, but the text is in Mexican.  This is not on all pages,
or I would not be able to send this message. How does this happen, and how
can I prevent this?I have ad like messages coming up in the title bar too,
apparently in Mexican.I ran Malware Bytes and a full MS Defender scan with
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pages Speaking in Mexican

[JM Casey]

If it's just on ancestry.com, which is the only site you mentioned -- it's
got something to do with that site specifically. It could be something like
a profile or account setting. Or else, it's a glitch. I searched google and
came up with someone who had a similar problem; nobody replied to him, it
looks like, so maybe it never got resolved.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Glenn Ervin
Sent: July 6, 2018 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pages Speaking in Mexican

Hi,In both Internet Explorer, and on Chrome, I have some pages defaulting to
Mexican.The rest of my computer stays on English, but in Ancestry.com, it
goes to Mexican, as that is what it sounds like, and in the address bar,
there is .MX in place of .Com.So I changed it for a while, and then I went
to check out with PayPal for Ancestry.com, and that came up in Mexican
again, but there was no MX to change here.Jaws reads the page element
controls in English, but the text is in Mexican.  This is not on all pages,
or I would not be able to send this message. How does this happen, and how
can I prevent this?I have ad like messages coming up in the title bar too,
apparently in Mexican.I ran Malware Bytes and a full MS Defender scan with
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Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

[JM Casey]

Hm, that is supposed to be true going the other way (NTFS to Fat), but it
should be able to. Maybe on this particular drive though, it can't, for
whatever reason.

Nevertheless I hope this works on your own drive that was apparently
converted to fat after you restored!

  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

they told me that I can only reformat the drive

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

That's weird. Did Lord Microsoft have anything to say about that?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

it askes for the new label
I entered it and then nothing

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 12:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

Huh! I'm disappointed the command didn't work! What happened when you tried
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

well, it was a good try. That command would not work. I called ms support
and they came to the conclusion that the only way is to reformat the drive
and recover the data from a backup. I used image for windows and it took a
little over 9 hours to backup. It almost did not fit on the laptop hd. there
is now 32gb left.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

I have probably close to a terabyte of music on my hard drives, and I try to
back it up semi-regularly, and have never run into problems copying so much
data.

However, you can actually convert the drive without reformatting it,
apparently. I say "apparently" because I haven't actually tried it. But
Windows has a command for this. It's called "convert" and you run it from
the command prompt. So open up an administrative command prompt and type
this:
Convert e: /fs:ntfs

Where e: is of course whatever drive letter you end up with.

As I've never done this before, my instinct would still be to copy the files
to a folder on your hd anyway as a backup.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 5, 2018 9:03 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

My grandson has an ex drive without about 200 gb of data stored on a fat32
drive. He needs it to be converted to ntfs. My win 10 laptop has more than
enough hd space. I first thought about trying to copy his ex drive to a new
folder on my lap top. Then reformat his drive and copy everything back. I
also thought about trying to use image for windows to back up his ex drive
and then restore it to the reformatted unit. I am not sure if a simple copy
of what will be the d drive to the new folder would be the best. With that
much data could it get clobbered?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] my conversion idea failed

[JM Casey]

Damn. I'm not really surprised it did that. I think an image is supposed to
be a complete replica of the drive, including filesystem. Why didn't you
just do a straight copy of the data using file explorer?

You could try that convert command again? Seems that you're getting the same
result with the format command though. Strange.

See if this page helps.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11106-convert-fat-fat32-volume-ntfs.ht
ml

You're not getting any error messages at all? Nothing about the drive being
mounted?






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 6:23 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] my conversion idea failed

I had the idea to make an image for windows backup of my grandson's ex
drive. Then restore it to my drive before reformatting his. After a 9 hour
backup and a 4 hour restore things became worse. The restore converted my
ntfs drive to a fat32. I made the guess that it just would rewrite the data.
On my 7 machine what is the best way to format my drive back to ntfs?  I did
go to run and typed format f: /fs:ntfs It asked for a new label and nothing
since. After a few hours the fat32 information is still there.
I wonder if I should have use the q switch


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Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

[JM Casey]

That's weird. Did Lord Microsoft have anything to say about that?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

it askes for the new label
I entered it and then nothing

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 12:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

Huh! I'm disappointed the command didn't work! What happened when you tried
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

well, it was a good try. That command would not work. I called ms support
and they came to the conclusion that the only way is to reformat the drive
and recover the data from a backup. I used image for windows and it took a
little over 9 hours to backup. It almost did not fit on the laptop hd. there
is now 32gb left.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

I have probably close to a terabyte of music on my hard drives, and I try to
back it up semi-regularly, and have never run into problems copying so much
data.

However, you can actually convert the drive without reformatting it,
apparently. I say "apparently" because I haven't actually tried it. But
Windows has a command for this. It's called "convert" and you run it from
the command prompt. So open up an administrative command prompt and type
this:
Convert e: /fs:ntfs

Where e: is of course whatever drive letter you end up with.

As I've never done this before, my instinct would still be to copy the files
to a folder on your hd anyway as a backup.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 5, 2018 9:03 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

My grandson has an ex drive without about 200 gb of data stored on a fat32
drive. He needs it to be converted to ntfs. My win 10 laptop has more than
enough hd space. I first thought about trying to copy his ex drive to a new
folder on my lap top. Then reformat his drive and copy everything back. I
also thought about trying to use image for windows to back up his ex drive
and then restore it to the reformatted unit. I am not sure if a simple copy
of what will be the d drive to the new folder would be the best. With that
much data could it get clobbered?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

[JM Casey]

Huh! I'm disappointed the command didn't work! What happened when you tried
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 6, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

well, it was a good try. That command would not work. I called ms support
and they came to the conclusion that the only way is to reformat the drive
and recover the data from a backup. I used image for windows and it took a
little over 9 hours to backup. It almost did not fit on the laptop hd. there
is now 32gb left.

-Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

I have probably close to a terabyte of music on my hard drives, and I try to
back it up semi-regularly, and have never run into problems copying so much
data.

However, you can actually convert the drive without reformatting it,
apparently. I say "apparently" because I haven't actually tried it. But
Windows has a command for this. It's called "convert" and you run it from
the command prompt. So open up an administrative command prompt and type
this:
Convert e: /fs:ntfs

Where e: is of course whatever drive letter you end up with.

As I've never done this before, my instinct would still be to copy the files
to a folder on your hd anyway as a backup.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 5, 2018 9:03 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

My grandson has an ex drive without about 200 gb of data stored on a fat32
drive. He needs it to be converted to ntfs. My win 10 laptop has more than
enough hd space. I first thought about trying to copy his ex drive to a new
folder on my lap top. Then reformat his drive and copy everything back. I
also thought about trying to use image for windows to back up his ex drive
and then restore it to the reformatted unit. I am not sure if a simple copy
of what will be the d drive to the new folder would be the best. With that
much data could it get clobbered?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 create new folder

[JM Casey]

There's also a "new" item in the context menu, and you can create a new
folder from there. But indeed, ctrl-shift-n is the fastest way.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Cheng Kwang Kwa
Sent: July 5, 2018 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 create new folder

Shift control n to create new folder.


From: JAWS-Users-List  on behalf of
Lenny McHugh 
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:57:50 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] win 10 create new folder

How do you create a new folder in your c: drive in win 10? I have been
looking around for about the last 45 minutes.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

[JM Casey]

I have probably close to a terabyte of music on my hard drives, and I try to
back it up semi-regularly, and have never run into problems copying so much
data.

However, you can actually convert the drive without reformatting it,
apparently. I say "apparently" because I haven't actually tried it. But
Windows has a command for this. It's called "convert" and you run it from
the command prompt. So open up an administrative command prompt and type
this:
Convert e: /fs:ntfs

Where e: is of course whatever drive letter you end up with.

As I've never done this before, my instinct would still be to copy the files
to a folder on your hd anyway as a backup.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Lenny McHugh
Sent: July 5, 2018 9:03 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] convert ex drive from fat32 to ntfs?

My grandson has an ex drive without about 200 gb of data stored on a fat32
drive. He needs it to be converted to ntfs. My win 10 laptop has more than
enough hd space. I first thought about trying to copy his ex drive to a new
folder on my lap top. Then reformat his drive and copy everything back. I
also thought about trying to use image for windows to back up his ex drive
and then restore it to the reformatted unit. I am not sure if a simple copy
of what will be the d drive to the new folder would be the best. With that
much data could it get clobbered?


---

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

[JM Casey]

I found something called "loudness equualization". I checked it, and it
didn't seem to make a positive difference. In fact, it made a weird sudden
volume spike whenever JAWS spoke for the first time in a while. So, I just
unchecked it again. Strange. Seems you didn't check yours anyway, so as mine
was set the same way, I guess this won't solve my little issue.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: July 4, 2018 3:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Its under sound properitories of your output device  under hancements is one
place to look.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Hey Dennis.

What optimisation setting is this exactly that you're referring to? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: July 4, 2018 1:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

I don't have that problem but I don't have the new thing checked in windows
to optimize volume or what ever it is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Hey everyone.

 

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18. I recently switched back to the Eloquence
synth more-or-less full-time after using Vocalizer for a year. I'm quite
happy, except that I find the synth is too loud, relative to other sounds on
my system. There are no controls for volume in my JAWS options, so I went
into Windows volume mixer and turned it way down, to around 20%, which seems
a level I am happy with. Only thing is, now something strange and slightly
annoying is happening. If I don't use the voice for a little while, as in,
maybe ten seconds or more, when it starts up again, it is quite quiet, and
then gradually increases in volume. It's a small thing but I would kind of
like the volume to remain at a consistent level. I've tried experimenting
with volume levels in Windows to get the perfect balance, but it is
surprisingly difficult. In general I don't want JAWS or system sounds to
overwhelm things like media players, but everything always seems just a
little too loud or too quiet, and of course there are other factors one
always has to consider as well, such as the relative volumes of disparate
media files, which I am ok with as I'm not a fan of auto-normalisation and
such. This thing with JAWS trying to boost its own volume is strange though.


 

Any thoughts from the group?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Hey Mike.

Good thought, but it is not checked. Also this gradual volume increase that
happens after I leave JAWS alone for a while happens even when no other
sound is playing on the computer.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: July 4, 2018 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Howdy JM,

Try checking your Audio Ducking settings.  I don't have my Widows 10
computer accessible to me at the moment, but I believe you need to go into
Settings Center, then press, control, shift , + D, to open the Settings
Center default all applications.  I believe it's in the, User folder, and
it's listed as, Lower the volume of other programs while jaws is speaking.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 9:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence


Hey everyone.



I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18. I recently switched back to the Eloquence
synth more-or-less full-time after using Vocalizer for a year. I'm quite
happy, except that I find the synth is too loud, relative to other sounds on
my system. There are no controls for volume in my JAWS options, so I went
into Windows volume mixer and turned it way down, to around 20%, which seems
a level I am happy with. Only thing is, now something strange and slightly
annoying is happening. If I don't use the voice for a little while, as in,
maybe ten seconds or more, when it starts up again, it is quite quiet, and
then gradually increases in volume. It's a small thing but I would kind of
like the volume to remain at a consistent level. I've tried experimenting
with volume levels in Windows to get the perfect balance, but it is
surprisingly difficult. In general I don't want JAWS or system sounds to
overwhelm things like media players, but everything always seems just a
little too loud or too quiet, and of course there are other factors one
always has to consider as well, such as the relative volumes of disparate
media files, which I am ok with as I'm not a fan of auto-normalisation and
such. This thing with JAWS trying to boost its own volume is strange though.




Any thoughts from the group?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Hey Dennis.

What optimisation setting is this exactly that you're referring to? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: July 4, 2018 1:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

I don't have that problem but I don't have the new thing checked in windows
to optimize volume or what ever it is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Hey everyone.

 

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18. I recently switched back to the Eloquence
synth more-or-less full-time after using Vocalizer for a year. I'm quite
happy, except that I find the synth is too loud, relative to other sounds on
my system. There are no controls for volume in my JAWS options, so I went
into Windows volume mixer and turned it way down, to around 20%, which seems
a level I am happy with. Only thing is, now something strange and slightly
annoying is happening. If I don't use the voice for a little while, as in,
maybe ten seconds or more, when it starts up again, it is quite quiet, and
then gradually increases in volume. It's a small thing but I would kind of
like the volume to remain at a consistent level. I've tried experimenting
with volume levels in Windows to get the perfect balance, but it is
surprisingly difficult. In general I don't want JAWS or system sounds to
overwhelm things like media players, but everything always seems just a
little too loud or too quiet, and of course there are other factors one
always has to consider as well, such as the relative volumes of disparate
media files, which I am ok with as I'm not a fan of auto-normalisation and
such. This thing with JAWS trying to boost its own volume is strange though.


 

Any thoughts from the group?

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Hey everyone.

 

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18. I recently switched back to the Eloquence
synth more-or-less full-time after using Vocalizer for a year. I'm quite
happy, except that I find the synth is too loud, relative to other sounds on
my system. There are no controls for volume in my JAWS options, so I went
into Windows volume mixer and turned it way down, to around 20%, which seems
a level I am happy with. Only thing is, now something strange and slightly
annoying is happening. If I don't use the voice for a little while, as in,
maybe ten seconds or more, when it starts up again, it is quite quiet, and
then gradually increases in volume. It's a small thing but I would kind of
like the volume to remain at a consistent level. I've tried experimenting
with volume levels in Windows to get the perfect balance, but it is
surprisingly difficult. In general I don't want JAWS or system sounds to
overwhelm things like media players, but everything always seems just a
little too loud or too quiet, and of course there are other factors one
always has to consider as well, such as the relative volumes of disparate
media files, which I am ok with as I'm not a fan of auto-normalisation and
such. This thing with JAWS trying to boost its own volume is strange though.


 

Any thoughts from the group?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] note on my problem adding Facebook friends

[JM Casey]

Strange, considering how many friend requests I get from "horny single
women" with whom I have no mutual friends at all and only have one public
post on their timeline inviting people to look at their "naked videos". I
wonder how they manage it?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Vicki W.
Sent: July 4, 2018 11:54 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] note on my problem adding Facebook friends

Just in case others start a new Facebook account, I discovered that Facebook
automatically blocks your adding friends via a request for awhile after the
account is opened. You can accept requests, but cannot add friends or see
posts. Seeing posts will last until you have 10 friends, but how long you
are blocked from requesting friends is up to them. I'm still blocked.

Just wanted to let anyone know that it's not a JAWS issue. 

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[JM Casey]

Probably at least til 2020. I think that's when some aspects of Windows 7 
support officially end (I'm not sure exactly what aspects; some general support 
is supposed to continue until 2025). Windows 7 users will never be on Edge, and 
some don't want to move away from Microsoft for browsing, I guess, so it'll 
still be around for a bit.

M.facebook.com is fine on Firefox, but I remember you're a big proponent of 
Chrome. I'll have to try it with that sometime.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
David Moore
Sent: July 3, 2018 11:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

IE is not retired yet, I only use it with one web site:
m.facebook.com
I am trying to get used to using the mobile Facebook site on Chrome and Edge, 
and it is Okay, but I still like the interface of the site with IE.
I don’t know how long IE will whimper along LOL!
David Moore



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From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and it’s 
pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page But when I use Edge all is fine!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[JM Casey]

Yeah, increasingly sites will not support it, and Microsoft is pushing Edge so 
not doing anything with iE except security updates.

I have heard that some sites, particularly involved with uS government 
services, only support IE. I'm not sure if this is true but I know at my old 
work IE was the only browser supported by the IT department. So there are 
reasons for keeping it around. But for general web use, it's becoming less and 
less effective.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
David Ferrin
Sent: July 4, 2018 7:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

It would seem that they are no longer developing the program, but you can use 
it so long as the places you visit allow.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and it’s 
pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page But when I use Edge all is fine!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

[JM Casey]

The key on your keyboard is known as the "applications" key. This key opens
a contextual menu, which differs according to application and item selected.
Hence, context menu..

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
LeDon
Sent: July 2, 2018 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

I am familiar with the applications key but never heard it referred to as
the context menu.

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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 3:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Hi LeDon,
This can be accomplished in one of several ways, depending on your keyboard.
The most common way when using a standard keyboard  is using the
"Applications" key which is located to the left of the right control key.
If this key is not available, then performing the shift + F10 keystroke will

open the menu.
And, when you have an item selected, performing a right mouse click will
also open the context menu.
Keep in mind that the content of the context menu will change according to
the item selected and even depending on where it is located, IE, specific
applications or the internet.


HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
- Original Message -
From: "LeDon" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome


You wrote: 1. Open the context menu,

OK how do you open the context menu?
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Hi Holger,
I tried this on the Apple Vis , Sendspace and Hadley Institute for the Blind

sites.
When you find the link for the mp3 you want, do this:
1. Open the context menu, and press enter on, "save link as".
2. When the dialogue opens,tab to the file type combo box, and down arrow to

all files, then tab to the save button, and press the spacebar.
The file should download to your default location.
Note:
This seems to be a standard "Save As", dialogue box.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome


This morning I went to applevis.com and attempted to download a podcast.
Normaly in IE, I find the link for the MP3 and IE will ask to run or safe.
Crome play the podcast instead of asking to save.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

To whoever initiated the original thread,
Can you give an example of the website you are having trouble with?

HTH,
Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

[JM Casey]

I've never heard that "context menu" applies to applications keypress only
and I don't see why it would. They are both, in fact, context menus. The
only thing I don't really understand is why one sometimes offers more
options than the other; hence my calling it "the extended version".

Sighted people usually right click on an item. The numpad star simulates
this action if you are using a screen-reader. Of course your mouse cursor is
not always where you'd expect it to be, if you don't use a mouse.

 

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Sent: July 1, 2018 5:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

This is worth clearing up. The following three keystrokes are often
interchangeable, but not always: the applications key (located between the
right-hand Windows and control keys), shift-F10 and the right mouse click
key (numpad star key). Like several other keystrokes, they all open menus
specific to where you are in an application. For whatever reason, it's
called the "context men" when you press the applications key. I don't recall
coming across that term for shift-F10 or the right mouse click. 

Again, all three keystrokes typically open the same menu choices, but not
always. If you think an option ought to be available with the applications
key but it doesn't show up, it's worth trying the other  two.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Well, that's because it's called the Applications Key. Haha it, or shift-f10
if you want the extended versions, opens up the context menu, which is
called that because it's contextual/dependent on what sort of item you are
focused on.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: July 1, 2018 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

not all people refer to the application key as the context menu

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 2:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Just curious, but have you not done this before? The context menus are one
of the most integral/useful parts of windows for most people. In some cases
it's hard to imagine using certain applications without them. Check out the
context menus in file explorer!



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LeDon
Sent: July 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

You wrote: 1. Open the context menu,

OK how do you open the context menu?
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Hi Holger,
I tried this on the Apple Vis , Sendspace and Hadley Institute for the Blind

sites.
When you find the link for the mp3 you want, do this:
1. Open the context menu, and press enter on, "save link as".
2. When the dialogue opens,tab to the file type combo box, and down arrow to

all files, then tab to the save button, and press the spacebar.
The file should download to your default location.
Note:
This seems to be a standard "Save As", dialogue box.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome


This morning I went to applevis.com and attempted to download a podcast.
Normaly in IE, I find the link for the MP3 and IE will ask to run or safe.
Crome play the podcast instead of asking to save.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

To whoever initiated the original thread, Can you give an example of the
website you are having trouble with?

HTH,
Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

[JM Casey]

Well, that's because it's called the Applications Key. Haha
it, or shift-f10 if you want the extended versions, opens up the context
menu, which is called that because it's contextual/dependent on what sort of
item you are focused on.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: July 1, 2018 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

not all people refer to the application key as the context menu

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 2:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Just curious, but have you not done this before? The context menus are one
of the most integral/useful parts of windows for most people. In some cases
it's hard to imagine using certain applications without them. Check out the
context menus in file explorer!



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
LeDon
Sent: July 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

You wrote: 1. Open the context menu,

OK how do you open the context menu?
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Hi Holger,
I tried this on the Apple Vis , Sendspace and Hadley Institute for the Blind

sites.
When you find the link for the mp3 you want, do this:
1. Open the context menu, and press enter on, "save link as".
2. When the dialogue opens,tab to the file type combo box, and down arrow to

all files, then tab to the save button, and press the spacebar.
The file should download to your default location.
Note:
This seems to be a standard "Save As", dialogue box.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome


This morning I went to applevis.com and attempted to download a podcast.
Normaly in IE, I find the link for the MP3 and IE will ask to run or safe.
Crome play the podcast instead of asking to save.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

To whoever initiated the original thread, Can you give an example of the
website you are having trouble with?

HTH,
Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

[JM Casey]

Just curious, but have you not done this before? The context menus are one
of the most integral/useful parts of windows for most people. In some cases
it's hard to imagine using certain applications without them. Check out the
context menus in file explorer!



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
LeDon
Sent: July 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

You wrote: 1. Open the context menu,

OK how do you open the context menu?
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Hi Holger,
I tried this on the Apple Vis , Sendspace and Hadley Institute for the Blind

sites.
When you find the link for the mp3 you want, do this:
1. Open the context menu, and press enter on, "save link as".
2. When the dialogue opens,tab to the file type combo box, and down arrow to

all files, then tab to the save button, and press the spacebar.
The file should download to your default location.
Note:
This seems to be a standard "Save As", dialogue box.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome


This morning I went to applevis.com and attempted to download a podcast.
Normaly in IE, I find the link for the MP3 and IE will ask to run or safe.
Crome play the podcast instead of asking to save.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

To whoever initiated the original thread,
Can you give an example of the website you are having trouble with?

HTH,
Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Voices

[JM Casey]

I guess jAWS will work with a lot of SAPI5 voices. I have never tried to
install any, but your Windows computer probably came with the standard
microsoft ones. You can select those from the Jaws, Options, Voices menu.
Select "choose a voice profile".

If you want to download some of the Vocalizer voices, go to the synthesizer
download page at Freedom Scientific. There is a link to it in the JAWS help
menu. On that page, you can select your language, and the type of synth
voice you want, either in a pack with other voices sharing the same
language, or in premium editions as a single voice. The premium downloads
are fairly large; around 300 mb each as I recall. It's an .msi installer
package, so you run it like you would a standard Windows installer and
follow the prompts. Then, restart JAWS, and the new voice(s) will be
available to you.



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Voices

I Would like to try a few different vioces for JAWS, I have always used
Eloquence, can anyone give me the quick steps to try this please?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

6/27/2018 12:19 AM, Audiobookfan wrote:
>> This is an interesting thread. The mention of laptops overheating and 
>> shutting down especially caught my attention. I thought I might be 
>> the only person in the world experiencing this problem, but I have 2 
>> different laptops from different manufacturers which both exhibit 
>> this problem whenever they are called upon to do some real work, 
>> e.g., checking for Windows updates or scanning for viruses. I get 
>> nervous anytime I hear the fan ramp up and it's a constant frustration
for me.
>>
>> I fail to understand why manufacturers design laptops this way. Why 
>> don't they back off the processing rather than shut down the computer?
>> Is it that I have the power settings incorrectly configured? If so, 
>> can someone please tell me how to configure my laptop to avoid these 
>> shutdowns?
>>
>> I've not done much with the power settings. I've just left them at 
>> their defaults. Honestly, I don't know what most of those settings 
>> mean, so I've been reluctant to mess with them. Reading this thread 
>> convinces me there are some knowledgeable folks on this list who 
>> might be able to help me out with this issue. If you can, I'd be ever 
>> so grateful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/26/2018 2:55 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>> Hello Aaron.
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing all that. I believe I understand, mostly.
>>>
>>> It's not a laptop, but a desktop machine. So, no battery. I've only 
>>> really experienced overheat problems with laptops, but you might 
>>> indeed be right about the components. Still, my girlfriend's laptop 
>>> keeps shutting down for precisely this reason. Yes, I understand 
>>> what you mean about it being ridiculous to have the computer 
>>> operating at maximum clock when it doesn't need to. I suppose that 
>>> is the whole point of "throttling". I think you gave me a clue as to 
>>> why, even though I thought I had set the plan back to "balanced", 
>>> the speed according to several diagnostics was still hanging around 
>>> 3500 to 4100 mhz. I'm still trying to understand exactly how the 
>>> power plans function.
>>>
>>> I was wondering about the processor state and what exactly I ought 
>>> to do with it, if anything. I should probably leave the max at 100%; 
>>> right now the minimum is 5% and, based on what you described, I 
>>> think this should be ok.
>>>
>>> It's also worth noting that the fans in my PC did need a serious 
>>> cleaning.
>>> My builder guy is always asking me to check the temps on my computer 
>>> but I just figured that's the kind of guy he is and never bothered 
>>> on a regular basis. I take it most people usually don't, until their 
>>> computer starts acting weird or shutting itself off at high 
>>> temperatures.
>>>
>>> I also realised how much of a drain JAWS + Vocalizer was on my 
>>> system. I told him that now that I'm back on Eloquence, the 
>>> difference is basically night and day. This system more than meets 
>>> the listed requirements but the performance hit, now that I can 
>>> actually see (and hear) the difference, was drastic. He doesn't 
>>> really understand this, but he's never had to use or bother with a 
>>> screen-reader himself; I believe he thinks it's a lot more basic 
>>> than it actually is.
>>>
>>> Cheers and thanks for giving my message some thought.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Valiant8086
>>> Sent: June 25, 2018 8:10 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU 
>>> speeds, temperature and JAWS
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>>
>>> Try putting it back on balanced. You don't have a battery do you?
>>> there's no battery icon? If you do have such an icon, you should be 
>>> able to press space on the icon in the system tray and you'll have a 
>>> left right slider you can use to adjust the cpu's power consumption 
>>> for better battery, better performance or best performance.
>>>
>>>
>>> You would want to see if you're on better performance. If not, 
>>> selecting that will make the cpu spend more time 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Help in setting up macros in word 2010

[JM Casey]

Ah yes. Now it's all coming back to me. Developer tools, legacy. We did have a 
lot of templates, too; I had to check each one of those forms and make sure 
they were properly accessible.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: June 27, 2018 4:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help in setting up macros in word 2010

Hi Al,

If all you need is to insert form fields for data whose value can only be true 
or false, it is not necessary to complicate your life with macros/VBA.
A checkbox form field should be enough.
Regarding the fact JM described you about form creation not being the same on 
newer versions of Word, it effectively reffers mostly to an accessibility 
consideration. In Word 2007 and later, Microsoft implemented a new thing called 
“content controls,” which have existing functionality of classic form fields 
but also include capabilities such as deletion when completed which make them 
suitable for templates and other content reutilization scenarios.
The problem, as the Freedom Scientific tutorial for creating accessible forms 
in Word, is that those new content controls are not currently accessible with 
the keyboard. Fortunately Word still has the option, in the Developer tab 
together with the new content controls, a split button called “Legacy Control” 
which allows you to insert a form field like the ones available in Word 2003 
and earlier, which are backward compatible and more accessible with the 
keyboard and JAWS.

Hope it helps!

2018-06-27 15:32 GMT-03:00 Al Sorrentino :

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I have Jaws 13, Word 2010, Windows 7 and I am trying to create a form 
> with fields that in the future I can fill in with information.  I have 
> tried several different steps in entering the x's in the fields, but 
> it's not working for me.
>
>
>
> Can someone please let me know a detailed way of accomplishing this task?
> Your help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Al Sorrentino
>
> alsorrent...@verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help in setting up macros in word 2010

[JM Casey]

I used to be able to do this in Word 2016 at my old work, but I don't think
I ever tried it with Word 2010, which I don't have anymore. I also can't
really remember the steps I used at the time, though I could probably do
some research and/or jog my memory. I believe I might have read somewhere
that creating forms in newer versions of Word is not the same, though that
could have just been from an accessibility standpoint? Anyway, I know it can
at least be done, though I'm sorry that's not much help to you at the
moment.



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Sent: June 27, 2018 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Help in setting up macros in word 2010

Hi everyone,

 

I have Jaws 13, Word 2010, Windows 7 and I am trying to create a form with
fields that in the future I can fill in with information.  I have tried
several different steps in entering the x's in the fields, but it's not
working for me.  

 

Can someone please let me know a detailed way of accomplishing this task?
Your help will be greatly appreciated.

 

Al Sorrentino

alsorrent...@verizon.net

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

I think that's probably good. As Aaron said, probably no need to have our
pCs clocked up to the maximum all the time. It's supposed to be able to do
that when it needs to/when high demand is put on the processor, I think. I
do *think* I noticed a small performance improvement, but not nearly as much
as when I simply changed my synth over to Vocalizer. The high temps I was
getting could also have been because of all the crud in my fans, though I
swear they were normal before I did the power plan change, and they still
seem, oddly, a bit too high (going up to near sixty sometimes).



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Mr. Ed
Sent: June 26, 2018 7:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

It showed my Lenovo desktop set on balance power setting.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey Ed.

It's in Power Options. Go to 'Choose a power plan for this pC" or something
like that. Valiant/Aaron provided some pretty detailed steps earlier in the
thread; those might help you as well.



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Mr. Ed
Sent: June 25, 2018 4:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hi JM,
Refresh this old geezers brain as to where you go to change the setting you
made. I am using a W10 operating system.
Mr. Ed
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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of
an interesting thing to share, and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Older version of Vocalizer

[JM Casey]

You can download Vocalizer Expressive Version 2 (the most recent one),
Version 1, as well as Vocalizer Direct (not sure what this one is exactly)
from the JAWS synths page.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Bill Holton
Sent: June 26, 2018 2:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Older version of Vocalizer

Hi.
Does anyone have a copy of the older version of Vocalizer?  I believe it was
labeled Vocalizer 2.0.  Not the current one for Windows or NVDA.  Thanks.
Bill

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Hey Ed.

It's in Power Options. Go to 'Choose a power plan for this pC" or something
like that. Valiant/Aaron provided some pretty detailed steps earlier in the
thread; those might help you as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mr. Ed
Sent: June 25, 2018 4:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hi JM,
Refresh this old geezers brain as to where you go to change the setting you
made. I am using a W10 operating system.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of
an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a
speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in
part because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type
of synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not
sure if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a
really high power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in
theory the automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad
happens. I actually think it's nice that Windows includes power saving
features, but not necessarily at the expense of system performance.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Hey Fernando.
Interesting thoughts re spanish voice synthesis. I had my issues with english 
Vocalizer voices too, but generally not related to intonation and such, 
although not being able to raise pitch for capitalisation did annoy me when 
trying to proofread stuff. The intonation for different types of sentences was 
acceptable. I used the Daniel voice most of the time and it was probably one of 
the most pleasant synthesised voices I've ever come across. I also used Kate 
from time to time and sometimes when you use an exclamation mark, she can sound 
a little bit squeaky! It was cute. :P



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: June 25, 2018 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I always used and still use Eloquence for dayly screen reading.
Although other engines have more human-sounding voices, most do not change 
intonation correctly when there are question or exclamation marks, or change 
with random results. At least in Spanish, Eloquence is the only engine which 
clearly change intonation in all of these cases if the text is well punctuated.
At least in Spanish, Eloquence only have two problems.
First, whetter you use Castilian or Latin American, the y letter is read the 
same as i, which is not right when navigating by character. I solve this by 
adding a JAWS dictionary rule, only for Eloquence and Spanish, that makes a 
nonintrusive sound each time an y appears. It is important to choose a 
nonintrusive sound, because the y in Spanish must be pronnounced the same as 
“i” when in a phrase is like the English “and”.
The second and most important problem is that there's not a Spanish Eloquence 
dialect that correctly read sillables with sh and, at the same time, distinct 
sounds of c, s and z. While the Castilian Spanish differentiates these sounds 
like in Spain but does not correctly read the sh sillables, Latin American is 
the oposite. While the behabiour of Latin American Spanish matches the way in 
which we treat these aspects in most Latin American countries (even when this 
language setting is made thinking in Mexico), there should be a language 
setting mixing these two advantages like other engines do.

Last, but not least, Eloquence does not become unstable when activating the 
Caps During Say All option in JAWS, which allows to read a word in a louder 
pitch when it contains capital letters during a Say All. This option can be 
turned on also when using other engines like Vocalizer, but even the various 
Vocalizer versions specifically aimed for Freedom Scientific products become 
sluggish at changing pitch for specific words in long phrases.
What about question and exclamation marks intonation with speech engines in 
English?


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2018-06-25 10:32 GMT-03:00 JM Casey :

> Hey guys.
>
>
>
> After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to 
> Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the 
> robust and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively 
> fast machine.
> I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding 
> voice, but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow 
> and clunky at times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. 
> Duh. These Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the 
> machine down. Anybody else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone 
> conclusion, but I just assumed my machine would be able to handle it 
> well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but for all practical purposes, 
> well, the trade in favour of performance is an obvious no-brainer.
>
>
>
> So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts 
> on all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.
>
>
>
> Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Power Point request

[JM Casey]

Aren't those training materials ridiculously expensive? I was asked to
evalutate the Office training at my old work. They were ok but imo not at
all worth the money, especially given the sometimes rambling nature of the
presentation. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: June 25, 2018 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Power Point request

Hi Paul,

I can remember that there's a PowerPoint tutorial with JAWS in the Freedom
Scientific Training web page.
Unless they have updated it recently, the tutorial explains PowerPoint 2003
and 2007. However, most of hints for PowerPoint 2007 are valid for latter
versions, as well as those for 2003 are valid for the earlier ones.

Hope it helps!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Tried it. Looks pretty good...comprehensive but really basic interface.
Cheers.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
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Sent: June 25, 2018 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hi.


CPUID's HW Monitor is quite screen reader friendly and will often report hdd
temps along with other temps for cpu and such, also may report fan speeds,
and may report power consumption.


No need to get hw monitor pro, just do the free one. You should have a zip
file when you download, just extract that to a folder and run hw monitor
64.exe or the other if you're on 32 bit windows.



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Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com";



On 6/25/2018 9:28 AM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hey Dennis.
>
> I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their 
> function. None of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work 
> well enough. One thing I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that 
> it can save the information in an html report that you just read 
> afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not HD as far as I know. The 
> guy who built this computer for me is really into this stuff and he 
> put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very detailed system 
> temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard disks. 
> This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the 
> machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The 
> third programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to 
> directly control your system fans through software if they are plugged 
> into the motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This
programme is super complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much
sense of it. Haha.
>
> Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend 
> WhysoSlow as it produces a straight-forward and relatively 
> easy-to-understand diagnostic report, and the software includes many 
> helpful links and documentation that you can access at every stage. 
> The company seems to produce some other useful utilities too, like a 
> programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to analyse the infamous 
> "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or driver is likely to
be causing them.
>
> With WhysoSlow, you have to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> features, but it didn't take me long to get the hang of it.
>
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: June 25, 2018 4:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU 
> speeds, temperature and JAWS
>
> What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the 
> hard drive and your processors?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
> temperature and JAWS
>
> Hey everyone.
>
>   
>
> So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, 
> around
> 3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, 
> and JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. 
> Yes, these specs are all relevant to the topic.
>
>   
>
> For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to 
> lag, or lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to 
> happen when JAWS is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this 
> synth does negatively affect JAWS response time, even on this 
> reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem to affect some 
> programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox and MS 
> Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems rather
sluggish.
>
>   
>
> Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software 
> called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software 
> tools available, that measures your computer's performance by 
> calculating various factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, 
> and the temperature of your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs 
> have. The system was running at a cool 20-something celsius. It was 
> also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
> programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being "throttled"
to conserve power.
>
>   
>
> Now, I&

Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

leep mode, often used for performing 
basic tasks while the screen is shut or perhaps even asleep. Other CPUs 
won't go below 533, 800 or 994mhz or there abouts. You can mess with 
this value to set a minimum slowed speed you're happy with, for instance 
you may find that if you do 70 percent your c cpu bottoms out at 2.4ghz 
or some such, and runs fairly cool and is still reasonably responsive.


Maximum processor state is also very useful but it won't help your 
problem most likely, unless you want to try forcing it to run at 2.4ghz 
and not go over or under that for some reason.



Note also that most of the time the percentage won't be followed 
exactly, you'll get what ever the closest clock speed will be if the cpu 
steps up or down to match it e.g. if the buss speed is 99mhz it'll jump 
by 99mhz increments ignoring the setting change if you apply it smaller 
than that. Also, turbo boost (intel) or I forgot what AMD calls it, 
where the cpu jumps clock speeds way higher than the rated clock speeds 
at times, will probably get turned off the instant you lower maximum 
processor state below 100 percent even one percentage point, and thus 
the rest of the scale is from what ever your base clock speed is and 
below that, perhaps.


Hope that's useful.



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Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com";



On 6/24/2018 7:32 PM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hey everyone.
>
>   
>
> So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
> 3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
> JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
> these specs are all relevant to the topic.
>
>   
>
> For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag,
or
> lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when
JAWS
> is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
> affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway,
the
> "freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
> particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing
between
> open windows seems rather sluggish.
>
>   
>
> Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
> called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software
tools
> available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating
various
> factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
> your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running
at
> a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
> advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my
CPUs
> were being "throttled" to conserve power.
>
>   
>
> Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
> weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
> completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
> reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on
them
> becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
> instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
> experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
> 10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
> computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
> settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced",
to
> "optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.
>
>   
>
> I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
> speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
> power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
> anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
> reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher
according
> to the coretemp utility).
>
>   
>
> However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
> freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
> Firefox seems much faster.
>
>   
>
> I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind
of
> an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
> anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at
a
> speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This

Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Here's a bunch o' links and some info:

hWMonitor: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

I gave it a quick spin and it seems reliable. The interface is very basic
and I don't see any options, but it's really nice to be able to get so much
information in realtime and indeed, it is quite screen-reader-friendly. 

WhySoSlow from Resplendence Software:
http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

I think this is probably the best little system diagnostic tool I've found
for newbies. Yes, I still count myself among this number, since a lot of the
data provided by programmes like HWMonitor in particular, I am still trying
to make sense of. This particular programme provides a report and links to
quick explanations of all the data it gives. If you don't actually know
anything about CPU temperature thresholds/limits, clock speeds, kernel
responsiveness etc, none of these other programmes will really help you much
without some accompanying google search work.

CoreTemp:
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Really small and straight-forward-ish programme that is highly recommended
by a lot of hardware pros from what I can tell. You just install it, run it,
and it will immediately display your CPU temps in the bottom of the window.
You can set alarms to go off if the temperature spikes alarmingly or
whatever. 

SpeedFan:
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

This programme seems fairly old, but it's still very usable. I mean, it came
installed on this computer along with CoreTemp and appears to recognise all
of my hardware. It's rather complex compared to everything else mentioned
here and to be honest I haven't been able to make a load of sense with it.
It's very configurable and unlike the other programmes can actually make
changes to your system/performance. It even claims to be able to give you
the ability to manually adjust your fan speeds without recourse to bios or
anything. However, I haven't gotten it to do this. It does relay all info
from all temperature sensors, and can perform a variety of other system
diagnostics. Not for the faint of heart though I think. Haha


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: June 25, 2018 10:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Do you have a link for it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Valiant8086
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hi.


CPUID's HW Monitor is quite screen reader friendly and will often report hdd
temps along with other temps for cpu and such, also may report fan speeds,
and may report power consumption.


No need to get hw monitor pro, just do the free one. You should have a zip
file when you download, just extract that to a folder and run hw monitor
64.exe or the other if you're on 32 bit windows.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com";



On 6/25/2018 9:28 AM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hey Dennis.
>
> I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their 
> function. None of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work 
> well enough. One thing I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that 
> it can save the information in an html report that you just read 
> afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not HD as far as I know. The 
> guy who built this computer for me is really into this stuff and he 
> put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very detailed system 
> temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard disks.
> This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the 
> machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The 
> third programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to 
> directly control your system fans through software if they are plugged 
> into the motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This
programme is super complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much
sense of it. Haha.
>
> Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend 
> WhysoSlow as it produces a straight-forward and relatively 
> easy-to-understand diagnostic report, and the software includes many 
> helpful links and documentation that you can access at every stage.
> The company seems to produce some other useful utilities too, like a 
> programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to analyse the infamous 
> "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or driver is 
> likely to
be causing them.
>
> With WhysoSlow, you ha

Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Oh yeah, there are definitely potential advantages to that. Amazing response
time on almost any machine would be one of those.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Russ Kiehne
Sent: June 26, 2018 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

This is why I like a hardware synthesizer like the TripleTalk usb I'm
currently using.

-Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

[JM Casey]

I noticed that business with time, and also some really weird stuff with
abbreviations. I would *think* this would be somewhat configurable but I
haven't looked into it as it hasn't annoyed me that much. 

I feel, now that I'm back on Eloquence, it makes sense that people use
Vocalizer for example reading books and things like that, but for more
practical purposes, like work, or just really do anything quickly on the
computer (if it has a mere 8 GB of ram!) Eloquence get the upper hand. I was
explaining to my friend, who built this PC for me, the problems I was having
with Vocalizer in terms of speed and random freezes, and he just could not
understand why this would happen, as he's able to do music production and
real-time audio on a computer with half this amount of power/ram. Ah well...

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: June 26, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

I can't stand any of them, they don't read punctuation the same as
Eloquence, times are expressed in longer less useful detail, and people who
put images in names don't read part of the time either.  Nathan could work
if I could actually control it like Eloquence, maybe but he does not do
graphics in names well.  Eloquence may be annoying for long periods but it
works as I am used to it working, punctuation set to some for most
applications, not having to hear a time as 12 hours 58 minutes ... 
If I am forced to use Vocalizer for everything, I might actually switch to
NVDA despite it not supporting my 12-year-old Focus 80 braille display I
bought myself.  It works great with JAWS but not at all with NVDA a program
I am glad is inexpensive for many but not one I really wish to migrate to on
a regular basis. 

Rose 

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

it also depends on weather you install the  full or compact version of the
voices.  they have different sampleing rates. so the full version would
sound better then the compact version.
i like the tom voice the best. the female voices are too basey.



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] cleaning software

[JM Casey]

I don't know what programme this was. A lot of these types of cleaners *do* 
mess with the registry. I'd trust myself to mess with that more than I would 
some programme that has no idea about my settings, what I installed and why or 
anything.

I used to have some luck though with a programme called Revo Uninstaller. This 
was back on XP. I read somewhere that the programme is still around, but is no 
longer quite as accessible to screen-readers.  You could however give it a try 
anyway, if noone has any other suggestions.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Teresa Arroyo Llosa
Sent: June 26, 2018 12:28 PM
To: Jaws Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] cleaning software

Hello all,

Using windows 8.1-64 and Jaws 2018.

Some time ago, some one recommended  a program that cleans up the remains of 
uninstalled programs. Would they tell me the name and how to use it?
I am thinking of uninstalling adobe digital editions (following sugestions from 
the adobe forum) and install it back again in order to see if I can open the 
book I want to read. I don’t dare to mess up with registries.

Thank you in advance.

Best regards,

Teresa Arroyo Llosa

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

That's really sweet. I don't think I really need that much; not a gamer or
avideo editor -- but I wouldn't say no to that, either.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: June 25, 2018 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I was able to upgrade my RAM cheaply because my system has eight slots and
only three were being used. I got four 8-gig chips for around $200.

Orlando Enrique Fiol


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

You're right that people don't talk that way. It's why the Vocalizer voices
sound really bad if you jack them up to even forty percent. They are indeed
very human sounding. However, my reasoning is that a speech synthesiser is a
tool, not a person, and the better it works at fast rates, the faster you
can read/digest information and get work done. I think I'll kep it this way,
at least until I do that ram upgrade. *grins*



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

i dropped eloquence a long time ago.
it makes me nervus and i couldn't stay on the computer for more then a hour
at a time.
no such problem with the human sounding voices.
i don't need or want to listen to the voices at 400 words per second. grin.
people don't talk this way and my computer doesn't either.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Dectalk sounded pretty good! Especially considering that synth goes all the
way back to the early/mid 80s and hardly changed at all. I never had any
screen-reader use it though; just the Kurzeil 1000 product back in the late
90s.

Wow, that's a lot of ram. I was thinking an upgrade to 16 GB might at least
be in order.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

[JM Casey]

I was using Daniel Premium. Very nice human sound at slow (comparatively)
speech rates. Not so much at fast ones. The Tom one sounds a bit nasal to me
and in any case I prefer the British voices, though I use the American
English Eloquence because the Brit one sounds ridiculous.

I find I always have to turn the subwoofer all the way down except when
playing music. Almost everything is too bassy! This analogue subwoofer
control also doesn't give a lot of control at all. Seems it's either all the
way off, or all the way on, almost.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

it also depends on weather you install the  full or compact version of the
voices.  they have different sampleing rates. so the full version would
sound better then the compact version.
i like the tom voice the best. the female voices are too basey.



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

Orlando Enrique Fiole


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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Hey Steve.

Thanks for your thoughts on this. I appreciate it. The utility can be found,
if you're curious, at:
http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

The temperature thing is quite strange, because I also thought the spike in
temperature rather drastic. Thing is, my fans were also filthy. Today my
girlfriend and I took the PC (yes, it's a desktop) apart and cleaned the
fans and area around them. Temperatures have now dropped significantly, to
the level I was seeing before, around the low 20s. Much better! I also set
the power plan back to normal, because now that I switched to Eloquence
again, the computer is performing much more smoothly. I did not anticipate a
software synth to put such a load on the machine, but as someone else
pointed out, I don't have a soundcard to run JAWS or anything else on, just
the internal Realtech audio, which is pretty good, but y'know.

I am trying to read up now on power plans and CPU loads. It's quite
interesting.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Steve
Sent: June 25, 2018 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

J.M.,

I hadn't heard of that utility before; and I'm slightly surprised that your
temps went up that much.  I suppose how good your cooling is depends on the
type of technology you have; case design, type of cooler and number of fans.

I assume you are using a desktop, I would be more concerned about the higher
temperatures if you are using a laptop, because of their limited cooling
capacity.

As for power consumption, a typical desktop uses about 200 Watts per hour,
but I'd guess the differential amount of power used on the high-performance
versus balanced setting is quite nominal.  I don't have a talking watt-hour
meter, so I can't measure that precisely, but I'd guess you would see maybe
a 50-Watt-hour difference.

With the average price of a kilowatt-hour of electricity for residential
customers around 13¢ then, I would expect your power bill would be affected
by about $4 per month.

Steve
Lansing, MI

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From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS


> Hey everyone.
>
>
>
> So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, 
> around
> 3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, 
> and JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. 
> Yes, these specs are all relevant to the topic.
>
>
>
> For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to 
> lag, or lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to 
> happen when JAWS is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this 
> synth does negatively affect JAWS response time, even on this 
> reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem to affect some 
> programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox and MS 
> Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems 
> rather sluggish.
>
>
>
> Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software 
> called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software 
> tools available, that measures your computer's performance by 
> calculating various factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, 
> and the temperature of your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs 
> have. The system was running at a cool 20-something celsius. It was 
> also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
> programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being 
> "throttled" to conserve power.
>
>
>
> Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
> weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
> completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
> reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on 
> them
> becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
> instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
> experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
> 10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
> computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
> settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", 
> to
> "optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.
>
>
>
> I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
> speed, all of the time. I suppose it's a

Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

I was quite impressed, but I think the hit on system speed and performance
might not be worth the nice sound most of the time. It's not just that
Eloquence is good enough; it's fast as hell!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I have never been impressed by the new better voices.  I used them to try
and quickly returned to eloquence.

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.

 

After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.

 

So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.

 

Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

[JM Casey]

Awesome. 


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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

it worked, thank you

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

Try accessing your messages through m.facebook.com You'll find the send
button easily enough there.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by "messenger page". The messenger is an
app for mobile devices, I think.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:25 AM
To: jul 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

sometimes sighted friends send me messages through facebook messenger, but
after writing a message on the messenger page, I can't find the send button.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

[JM Casey]

Try accessing your messages through m.facebook.com
You'll find the send button easily enough there.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by "messenger page". The messenger is an
app for mobile devices, I think.



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Sent: June 25, 2018 11:25 AM
To: jul 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

sometimes sighted friends send me messages through facebook messenger, but
after writing a message on the messenger page, I can't find the send button.
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[JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Hey guys.

 

After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.

 

So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.

 

Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Hey Dennis.

I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their function. None
of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work well enough. One thing
I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that it can save the information in
an html report that you just read afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not
HD as far as I know. The guy who built this computer for me is really into
this stuff and he put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very
detailed system temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard
disks. This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the
machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The third
programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to directly
control your system fans through software if they are plugged into the
motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This programme is super
complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much sense of it. Haha.

Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend WhysoSlow as
it produces a straight-forward and relatively easy-to-understand diagnostic
report, and the software includes many helpful links and documentation that
you can access at every stage. The company seems to produce some other
useful utilities too, like a programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to
analyse the infamous "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or
driver is likely to be causing them.

With WhysoSlow, you have to use the JAWS cursor to access the features, but
it didn't take me long to get the hang of it.

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: June 25, 2018 4:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the hard
drive and your processors?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab

[JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of
an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a
speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in
part because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type
of synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not
sure if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a
really high power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in
theory the automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad
happens. I actually think it's nice that Windows includes power saving
features, but not necessarily at the expense of system performance.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] formatting Facebook notes

[JM Casey]

Well, I can't seem to find anything. Sad. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: June 20, 2018 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] formatting Facebook notes

Hi all,

 

A long time ago, it was possible to format text in Facebook notes by using HTML 
tags like , , etc.

Then, in 2014 or so, they introduced a WYSIWYG editor which no longer supported 
HTML tags. Instead, we had to select text, disable JAWS Forms Mode and, below 
the editor and the Post button, there was a list of links with different 
options like Bold, Italic etc. which applied these attributes to the selected 
text.

Now I'm trying to format text on a note, but JAWS is not detecting the links 
with the different formattings. I know these links are present, because when I 
select text it appears, below the Post button, a button saying Close the Popup 
and Return, which is not present when no text is selected.

I've tried both with Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer, both with JAWS and 
NVDA, with the same results in all cases.

Does someone know how to format text on a Facebook note right now by using only 
the keyboard?

 

Thanks in advance!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[JM Casey]

It's kind of interesting. There are quite a lot of them on my phone (a Samsung 
j120). I've never scrolled through the entire list. The Talkback screen-reader 
seems to handle them rather well though, at least as far as SMS goes.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 21, 2018 8:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

From what my sighted friend says, these are pictures--all kinds of things: 
faces, animals, sports stuff, musical instruments--that pop up on the screen 
when you press Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  Something 
to make people smile, I guess, though some of the faces were crying.  Many more 
emoji than on her phone, she said.  Shrug.  Would be nice to have access as 
partially sighted JAWS users do.  Not complaining.  Just sayin'.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hello,
I have my Outlook 2016 email set to HTML format and all I do is type : - ) with 
no spaces to send one of those critters and when I get one JAWS tells me 
"smiling face with smiling eyes."😊
What else are you talking about?

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hey.

Yes, that nVDA feature is, I think, a part of Windows 10 App Essentials. I 
haven't played with it. I do use them on my phone (android, not iphone), but 
always feel it's kind of a silly thing to do. Still, especially when talking 
with my landlady, sometimes a simple emoji is best, as she just wants to go on 
and on and on, and I have to indicate I'm listening, somehow. Lol

It is a little odd that JAWS can recognise them but there's no current way to 
select one to input in your messages and such.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 21, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if that's the 
right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the down-arrow key but 
not the left and right arrows, so it would seem that there was no colon and 
closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  Windows 10 can, they say, bring up 
a list of emoji with Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  But 
if it does, JAWS can't see them, and neither can I!  LOL.  I tried recognizing 
the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and found that there is an 
add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji accessible.  Not having NVDA 
installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had this since we all send 
stuff to sighted friends.  

Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, no iPhone 
yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!  LOL.

Just sayin'

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[JM Casey]

Thank you, Joseph, for the comprehensive explanation of emojis as they
pertain to Windows and screen-readers.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Sent: June 21, 2018 10:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hi,
I'll try my best to address several questions about emoji panel in one go:

Q. What is emoji?
Emoji (a shorthand Japanese for "emotion characters", from Romanization of
"emo" and "ji" (character)) is a picture that represents objects, emotions,
people, events and so on. This came about in the late 1990's where people
wanted to conserve space on data usage yet wanted to express their emotions
to the fullest. This became pop0ular among Japanese mobile phone users via
SMS (short messaging service) before it gain widespread usage in 2010's.

Q. How do I read emoji?
It'll depend on screen reader and synthesizer in use. Some synthesizers do
support announcing emojis, while others don't. Also, the ability to
recognize emojis will depend on how the screen reader processes Unicode data
and instructions sent to speech synthesizers regarding how to process such
characters.

Q. How do I input emoji?
In Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update) and later, you can browse
and insert emoji by pressing Windows+period or Windows+semicolon. Note that
in 1709 and 1803 (April 2018 Update), only United States English keyboard
layout will let you browse emojis. In Redstone 5 (under development), this
restriction is gone.
In 1709 and 1803, once emoji panel opens, press the arrow keys to move
through emojis. Press Tab to cycle through emoji categories, or if you're
looking for a specific emoji, type the name and the panel will return
suggestions. To insert a given emoji, press Enter.
In Redstone 5, you can still use arrow keys to move through emojis. However,
pressing Tab will not cycle through categories; rather, it'll switch between
emojis and categories. To select a different emoji category, press Tab to go
the categories, then use left or right arrows to move through categories and
press Enter. In case of People category, you can choose a skin tone. Once
the emoji is found, press Enter.

Q. Does JAWS support emoji panel?
Not at this time (according to tests). Some users asked VFO regarding this
matter not long ago.

Q. Does other screen readers support emoji panel?
Write to me privately regarding this matter please (not only to keep the
topic on scope, but also because I am the one who brought support for emoji
panel for a certain screen reader; hint: there will come a day when a
certain scripts will not be required to interact with emoji panel, but
that's for another time).

Cheers,
Joseph
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Paul Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

hello am using Jaws 2018 on windows 10 how do i  put Emoji?

On 6/22/18, Rebecca Lineberger  wrote:
> I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if 
> that's the right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the 
> down-arrow key but not the left and right arrows, so it would seem 
> that there was no colon and closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.
> Windows 10 can, they say, bring up a list of emoji with Windows key 
> and either the period or the semicolon.  But if it does, JAWS can't 
> see
them, and neither can I!  LOL.
> I
> tried recognizing the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and 
> found that there is an add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji
accessible.
> Not
> having NVDA installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had 
> this since we all send stuff to sighted friends.
>
> Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, 
> no iPhone yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!
LOL.
>
> Just sayin'
>
> Rebecca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible program needed that will automatically clean cookies from browsers when exiting

[JM Casey]

Hey.
Now I'm not sure if cCleaner claims to be "extra thorough" or some damn
thing, however I don't think you need a third party programme to do this. I
believe most browsers can be configured to do this themselves. So, what
browser are you using?



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: June 22, 2018 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible program needed that will automatically
clean cookies from browsers when exiting

Hi, it seems CCleaner is not accessible anymore.  I need a program that is
accessible with Jaws that will automatically delete cookies and form data
from browsers when the browser is closed.  Please.  Thank you for your help.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[JM Casey]

Hey.

Yes, that nVDA feature is, I think, a part of Windows 10 App Essentials. I
haven't played with it. I do use them on my phone (android, not iphone), but
always feel it's kind of a silly thing to do. Still, especially when talking
with my landlady, sometimes a simple emoji is best, as she just wants to go
on and on and on, and I have to indicate I'm listening, somehow. Lol

It is a little odd that JAWS can recognise them but there's no current way
to select one to input in your messages and such.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 21, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if that's
the right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the down-arrow
key but not the left and right arrows, so it would seem that there was no
colon and closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  Windows 10 can, they
say, bring up a list of emoji with Windows key and either the period or the
semicolon.  But if it does, JAWS can't see them, and neither can I!  LOL.  I
tried recognizing the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and found
that there is an add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji accessible.  Not
having NVDA installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had this
since we all send stuff to sighted friends.  

Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, no
iPhone yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!  LOL.

Just sayin'

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] formatting Facebook notes

[JM Casey]

Hi Fernando.

I do not know, but I swear I was talking about this on a facebook post sometime 
late last year, and a friend replied and told me how it could be done. This was 
not a screen-reader user, but from the way he made it sound, it was something 
that could be easily accomplishable through the keyboard. I can't remember for 
the life of me what was said in that discussion as I never really pursued it. 
I'll have to look back and see if I can find it, or maybe just ask him.

I always thought it was really unfortunate that you couldn't use html tags on 
facebook. Even forums (though in a modified form) and many other sites I 
conribute to (goodreads) allow this.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: June 20, 2018 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] formatting Facebook notes

Hi all,

 

A long time ago, it was possible to format text in Facebook notes by using HTML 
tags like , , etc.

Then, in 2014 or so, they introduced a WYSIWYG editor which no longer supported 
HTML tags. Instead, we had to select text, disable JAWS Forms Mode and, below 
the editor and the Post button, there was a list of links with different 
options like Bold, Italic etc. which applied these attributes to the selected 
text.

Now I'm trying to format text on a note, but JAWS is not detecting the links 
with the different formattings. I know these links are present, because when I 
select text it appears, below the Post button, a button saying Close the Popup 
and Return, which is not present when no text is selected.

I've tried both with Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer, both with JAWS and 
NVDA, with the same results in all cases.

Does someone know how to format text on a Facebook note right now by using only 
the keyboard?

 

Thanks in advance!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with OCR on a TIF file with multiple pages

[JM Casey]

Do you think the budget could stretch to accommodate an OCR package for you?
I don't think it'd have to be anything too fancy or expensive. Abbyy
Finereader would probably do the trick. Then you could import all the .tifs
into the programme and oCR them as if you had scanned them yourself.

I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions for JAWS OCR; my experiences with it
have not exactly been of a satisfactory enough level to recommend it for
professional use. Let's see if anyone suggests anything else.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: June 21, 2018 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with OCR on a TIF file with multiple pages

Hello,

 

At the hospital where I volunteer faxes are stored in the voice mail system.
There is a program to retrieve the fax images. I can get to the fax images
with JAWS, however the format is tiff. With the "recognize with JAWS" that
normally isn't a problem, however, the faxes are multiple pages. JAWS only
recognizes the first page and stops. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can
get JAWS to OCR all of the pages?

 

Thanks for any help you can give me!

 

Have fun!

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best program for reading PDFs

[JM Casey]

Hi.

I use a little programme called qRead for non-image pdfs most of the time.
It loads a lot quicker than Adobe and doesn't crash, so I appreciate it. The
programme costs about $30 US as I recall and I don't regret the investment.
For image PDFs, I use Adobe Acrobat Pro, which can OCR the documents and
generally gets better results than JAWS does. . Note that this isn't the
same as Adobe Reader and while it actually came with this pC and thus I
didn't pay for it myself, I don't think it's cheap to purchase. 

An OCR package can do the things you want. Examples of those are Abbyy
FineReader, on the mainstream (and much cheaper) end of things, or Open
Book, and I guess, KNFB Reader. If you don't have or want any of those, you
should definitely try the jAWS OCR feature as well, which most people have
suggested to you. I have not really ever met with great results from this,
but hey, at least it works and is a nice feature. It was also improved
greatly in JAWS 2018, however I only have the demo of that, and the one time
I tried to OCR a picture of a lot of text the results I got were completely
unusable still. That wasn't a PDF though, and the printing was weird, so you
may meet with better results.


 
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: June 20, 2018 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best program for reading PDFs

Hi all, I have been sent a document I really need to read as soon as
possible but it is a PDF and it appears I don't have a program on my laptop
to read these. When I tried to open it straight from the email it opened in
edge and I couldn't read anything. After I saved it to a folder in my
documents and went to open it I got a list of programs I could use to open
it but all I tried couldn't display the document. I tried opening it in
notepad and got a lot of rubbish instead of what it was meant to be. So now
I am wondering what the best program to use with Jaws 2018 and windows 10 is
and where can I get it from?

 

I've been having trouble making the person on the other end understand what
format I need because the first time she sent it to me it was a picture
which of course Jaws couldn't read so I asked her to send it again in a word
file. She then sent me a screen shot of the document so again I had to
explain that jaws doesn't read pictures and asked again for a word version.
She is working on an iPad so she didn't have access to word so she finally
sent me the PDF version. I'm afraid that this too will be a picture rather
than an actual PDF but to find this out I need a program that will open it.

 

Thanks for any help.

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[JM Casey]

I think Steve was just making a recommendation. It'll probably work equally
well both ways, but if you're resetting something, it's best not to have
that thing actually running while you're doing it, because some things can't
be rest while they are operational. You know how when you install most
programs a screen comes up telling you to close applications? That's why.
There are dependencies and such that lots of programs have, and you won't be
able to remove or change something on the system while it's in use. Rather
than give you an error message about it, the program in question might just
leave a bunch of junk cluttering up your system. So, it's just a sensible
practice.

Having said that, I do want to point out that Steve's search box method to
get to the control panel still works best in Windows 10. The windows key--x
menu, which I have forgotten the name of at the moment, at least on my
Windows 10 machine, has a link to the settings app, but not control panel,
though I guess it's possible to add this to the menu yourself if you want
to. Despite Microsoft making promises about better integration, settings and
control panel are still not integrated. I personally dislike the settings
app so am happy control panel is still around. Still though...



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: June 19, 2018 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

Hi Steve,
And why would that make any different? Seems to me if MS put the reset
button inside IE that would be okay to reset it that way. So let us know why
it would not be okay to do it that say compared to going to the control
panel.  
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

The difference is that by going in through the control panel, you don't have

IE running.
- Original Message -
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11


> Hi Steve,
> Both methods get you to "Internet options", what is the difference?
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
>
>
> I disagree slightly with this procedure.
>
> First, it is better to reset IE using the control panel, and not from IE
> itself.
> Secondly, make sure you don't have other IE-dependent programs like 
> certain
> email programs open before you start the reset.
>
> I would modify Step 1 to be:
> Open Control panel.
> In Windows 7 and Vista, just type control panel into the search box and
> arrow down until you hear that announced and hit Enter to open it.  Then
> find Internet Options and hit Enter.
>
> In Windows 10, the easiest way to find control panel is the use the
> Windows-X key combination.  Control panel and open Internet Options from
> there.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mr. Ed" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
>
>
>> Hi Miriam,
>> Here are my instructions on how to reset IE 11. I would give this a try.
>>
>> How to reset IE 11:
>> I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
>> 1. Open IE
>> 2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
>> 3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
>> 4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General.
>> 5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
>> 6. Tab until you hear reset button.
>> 7. Press enter on the reset button.
>> 8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
>> about checking this box to delete personal information. Press
>> the spacebar here   to check this check box.
>> 9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
>> Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like
>> new.
>>
>> Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not 
>> remove
>> your favorites in IE.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:16 PM
>> To: jaws users list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
>>
>> With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
>> crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
>> work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
>> anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>> Miriam
>>
>>
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>
>
> For answe

Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook export/import.

[JM Casey]

Yes. I did the export process, but it crashed the programme (outlook 2010
also). However, the .pst file is there, and it's very large. So I'm sort of
assuming it worked and the crash occurred after it was finished. I have yet
to try it a second time because I have been unsuccessful in removing Office
2010 from my computer, so don't yet have 2016 installed. These MS programmes
are stubborn and pervasive sometimes. They just won't die. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: June 19, 2018 3:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook export/import.

good afternoon folks, I'm back with another question, or perhaps a
verification,

one of my client's wants to export from outlook 2010, and import to outlook
2016.

I did a quick google search and found the following.

has anyone tried this?

 

 

 

Look at the process below to migrate Outlook 2010 PST data to Outlook 2016.

 

Stage1: Backup/Export Outlook 2010 PST data to an Outlook .pst file

 

To export mailbox data to an Outlook .pst file, follow the steps given
below:

 

list of 7 items

1. Launch your MS Outlook 2010 application.

2. On the topmost ribbon of MS Outlook, go to the File Tab. Click
Options>Advanced>Export.

3. From Import and Export wizard, select Export to a file. Click Next.

4. In the next Export to a file wizard, select Outlook Data File (.pst) and
click Next.

5. Select the email account name you need to export. To export the entire
PST data, select the checkbox Include Subfolders. Click Next.

 

You can export a single folder also by selecting that particular folder. In
this case, you have to clear the Include subfolders check box. Click Next.

Note: You cannot select more than one folder to export. To export another
folder, you have to perform the whole process again, i.e., a single folder
or

whole mailbox can be exported at a time.

 

Here, only Inbox folder is selected to export to a .pst file or to have a
backup of inbox items.

 

One more option is available to apply Filter to select particular items from
the folder. With advanced filters, you can select important emails from your

folder.

 

6. In Export Outlook Data File wizard, Browse and select the required
location to export your file. You can select the required option. Click
Finish to

continue.

7. After this, a dialogue box is popped up asking for the password (if you
have set a password for PST file or when you are creating a new .pst file).

Insert password and click OK. Your file will get saved to the selected
location. Select checkbox. Your password is saved for future use.

list end

 

Stage2: Import and Add PST file data to Outlook 2016

 

Import Outlook 2010 .pst file into Outlook 2016 using the given steps:

 

list of 6 items

1. Launch MS Outlook 2016 application.

2. Go to the File Tab. Click Open & Export>Import/Export.

3. From Import and Export wizard, select Import from another program or
file.

4. Select file type as Outlook data file (.pst). Click Next.

5. Click Browse to provide the location of the .pst file to be imported.
Click on the required option and click Next.

6. Select the particular folder or select include all subfolders. You can
apply Filter if selecting a single folder. Click Finish to complete the
process.

list end

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[JM Casey]

Hi.

I don't know what the issue is, but you can download previous versions of
JAWS, including 16, here:
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS/PreviousVersions

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: June 17, 2018 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

It doesn't appear to be related to specific sites. And, for complicated
reasons, I don't have Jaws 16 on my machine anymore. I wish I did because
Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 are driving me crazy. I would like to go back to the
days when Jaws didn't keep disappearing every hour or so. 

Miriam. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11


Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS?  Does IE 11 seem to crash most
often on certain web sites?  If so, can you provide the address of a site
you are having trouble with?  I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have
experienced no issues with IE 11.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[JM Casey]

Does this happen only on certain websites?

As someone suggested, you could try an earlier version of JAWS, or nVDA
latest version even, and see what happens. But some already consider IE to
be a "deprecated" browser. In my experience though, it doesn't crash so much
as things just don't work right/links or certain parts of the page appear
invisible using IE. So it might be something else particular to your system.
Maybe if you give a site url that is giving you trouble, others on the list
could try for themselves.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: June 17, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
anyone have any suggestions? 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

[JM Casey]

Np. Hope you like it. So far the biggest accessibility hurdle I have found
is, oddly enough, the help system, which doesn't seem to be quite Windows
standard. However, I think you can find all that stuff online anyway, and if
you're already familiar with MS Office, most of OpenOffice's stuff should
intuitively make sense to you. One thing a lot of JAWS users may like is
that it doesn't use ribbons, but classic menu bars.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of sandy
Sent: June 9, 2018 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

thank you, I think, lol

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office 

Yes. OpenOffice works pretty well; in some cases it's even a bit faster and
more intuitive than the MS product, I think. Only thing is: it does not
contain an e-mail client, so you will have to find one if you want to fill
the Outlook gap. Try Thunderbird.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: June 9, 2018 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

Open office, its free!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: sandy
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 7:22 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

being a penny pincher, does anyone know of a program out there that costs
far less than ms office, that is jaws friendly? jaws 17 For answers to
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Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

[JM Casey]

You don't need any other programme. This is all a part of windows.
Read this.

https://www.howtogeek.com/278388/how-to-make-windows-automatically-create-a-
system-restore-point-at-startup/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: June 9, 2018 2:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer


Is there any JAWS accessible program that will automatically create a system
restore point whenever you turn on your computer?

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

Hi Lenny,

If System Restore is turned on it should have created a restore point before
installing the software, unless the scammers went in and turned it off
before installing, or had a way of thwarting the system.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: el...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer


Lenny
I know that someone remotely installed the trash software, but this is a
perfect time to teach how to create a restore point. I create a new one even
when I am installing trusted software, but certainly if it is a program that
is new to me.
Good luck and the computer's owner should report this to the better business
bureau. If the person is on any user lists like this one, not a bad idea to
post information about the scam.
Good luck to you both,
Rick

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413()  727-3038

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
andy t
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 12:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

Hello lenny, have you tried system restore? If push comes to shove
you can always re install windows.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 11:59 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

A friend had his computer trashed by the calling from windows scam. He was
not thinking when they directed him to the event viewer to show him
problems. They installed some trash software that he must pay them to
remove. He quickly turned off his computer while screaming at them. Is there
any removal tool that I can use to clean his machine?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

[JM Casey]

Yes. OpenOffice works pretty well; in some cases it's even a bit faster and
more intuitive than the MS product, I think. Only thing is: it does not
contain an e-mail client, so you will have to find one if you want to fill
the Outlook gap. Try Thunderbird.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: June 9, 2018 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

Open office, its free!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: sandy
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 7:22 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] same as ms office

being a penny pincher, does anyone know of a program out there that costs
far less than ms office, that is jaws friendly? jaws 17 For answers to
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Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

[JM Casey]

Hey.

I'm familiar with this scam. Unless it's a different variant, what they
actually installed was Team Viewer. This is a legitimate programme made by
Microsoft which is often used in IT or support environments. However, it
allows a person to have remote access and control the host computer. So
theoretically, they could have done a lot of things once Team Viewer was up
and running. I would definitely boot into safe mode, and examine startup
items using msconfig or some similar programme to see if Team Viewer or any
other unwanted programmes are activating automatically at startup. As for
trashed files, let's hope your friend has a backup. The fake technician
could have just deleted stuff out of spite if the person refused to give his
credit card information; they have been known to do this. There's a video on
youtube of a guy fooling them by using a virtual machine. It's pretty funny,
so long as you yourself werent' scammed, but it illustrates how these people
usually operate.

It's hard to believe that people are really taken in by this, but I guess
your friend is a sobering example of how this can happen.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: June 9, 2018 11:59 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

A friend had his computer trashed by the calling from windows scam. He was
not thinking when they directed him to the event viewer to show him
problems. They installed some trash software that he must pay them to
remove. He quickly turned off his computer while screaming at them. Is there
any removal tool that I can use to clean his machine?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

[JM Casey]

Hey.

I don't, but you could consider contacting your bank or credit provider.
This is actually often a service they offer. And you should never have to
pay for it. If you're paying, you're being ripped off.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: June 8, 2018 2:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

Hi,

Does anyone here know of a site where I can monitor my credit score that is
jaws accessible? I don't care paid or free, but if I pay, I would want it to
be jaws accessible.

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] linked in

[JM Casey]

Yeah. I don't have any suggestions. Just use it as little as possible and
get out. The whole thing is just a pain. Sighted people hate it too, so it's
not just us.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: June 6, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] linked in

Never was very accessible, over the past 6 years of being signed in.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 07:38
Subject: [JAWS-Users] linked in


So, I've noticed that the linked in page is not but so user friendly.  Does
anyone have any tips?
Justin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[JM Casey]

I know what you mean. As I migrated straight from XP to Windows 10 at home,
I would have been the same way, except I somehow broke the find feature on
my XP machine and it never worked right at all. :)


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

It's always there for me, but I too have made changes to File Explorer.  I
forget about shift-tabbing.  My hands type the control-f for find out of
habit.
Whatever works! Smile.  
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 3:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Yes, that's true. Actually after I wrote the last message, I wondered if
some of the tweaks I did to Windows 10 made that search box appear by
default, whereas others have to issue the find command in order to get it. I
do not play with enough other peoples' machines to know whether this is the
case, and I honestly don't remember anymore. But you're right, we are indeed
talking about the same search box, whether it's there all the time as in my
case, or whether you need to press f3 to get it to appear. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, you're right.  But I think we're talking about the same thing.
Smile.  In documents, if I shift-tab back twice, I get to the search box.
So it's a question of what your hands find easier, shift-tab back or to
press f3 or control-f.
You'll be in an edit box from which you can search either way.
Again, Microsoft has provided us with its usual plethora of choices.  

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi Rebecca and all.
Well, now it's my turn to clarify. I do not precisely mean the start menu
search, but the one in file explorer. You will see it if you shift-tab back
from the folder tree. It works similar to the start menu search in that
results are populated without the need to press enter, but it will ineed
still show details if you have that radio button checked, since the list
view that's populated is exactly the same one as you normally see in file
explorer, just using your search criteria to narrow down what is shown.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Smile.  You're correct.  However, and I should have clarified this, if you
search from the start menu search box, you're given no information about the
results by date, type, size and path.
If you right arrow, there's silence.
I'm a details freak, LOL, and I want this information.  JMO.
If you don't care, and many people don't, then search from the start menu.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
T

Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[JM Casey]

Yes, that's true. Actually after I wrote the last message, I wondered if
some of the tweaks I did to Windows 10 made that search box appear by
default, whereas others have to issue the find command in order to get it. I
do not play with enough other peoples' machines to know whether this is the
case, and I honestly don't remember anymore. But you're right, we are indeed
talking about the same search box, whether it's there all the time as in my
case, or whether you need to press f3 to get it to appear. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, you're right.  But I think we're talking about the same thing.
Smile.  In documents, if I shift-tab back twice, I get to the search box.
So it's a question of what your hands find easier, shift-tab back or to
press f3 or control-f.
You'll be in an edit box from which you can search either way.
Again, Microsoft has provided us with its usual plethora of choices.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi Rebecca and all.
Well, now it's my turn to clarify. I do not precisely mean the start menu
search, but the one in file explorer. You will see it if you shift-tab back
from the folder tree. It works similar to the start menu search in that
results are populated without the need to press enter, but it will ineed
still show details if you have that radio button checked, since the list
view that's populated is exactly the same one as you normally see in file
explorer, just using your search criteria to narrow down what is shown.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Smile.  You're correct.  However, and I should have clarified this, if you
search from the start menu search box, you're given no information about the
results by date, type, size and path.
If you right arrow, there's silence.
I'm a details freak, LOL, and I want this information.  JMO.
If you don't care, and many people don't, then search from the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 199

Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[JM Casey]

Hi Rebecca and all.
Well, now it's my turn to clarify. I do not precisely mean the start menu
search, but the one in file explorer. You will see it if you shift-tab back
from the folder tree. It works similar to the start menu search in that
results are populated without the need to press enter, but it will ineed
still show details if you have that radio button checked, since the list
view that's populated is exactly the same one as you normally see in file
explorer, just using your search criteria to narrow down what is shown.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Smile.  You're correct.  However, and I should have clarified this, if you
search from the start menu search box, you're given no information about the
results by date, type, size and path.
If you right arrow, there's silence.
I'm a details freak, LOL, and I want this information.  JMO.
If you don't care, and many people don't, then search from the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

--
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landscape in determining how its people live, work and play."


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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[JM Casey]

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

--
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landscape in determining how its people live, work and play."


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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[JM Casey]

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

--
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landscape in determining how its people live, work and play."


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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[JM Casey]

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

--
"Every country has an idenity, history, customs,  and culture. It's a unique
landscape in determining how its people live, work and play."


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

[JM Casey]

Aha, cool idea! I kind of stopped bothering with a hotkey a while ago, but I
never thought of this at all, so maybe I'll reinstate it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: May 28, 2018 1:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

Hi Geoff & Cristóbal,

You can try assigning the shortcut keystroke from a different Jaws icon, and
I believe it will solve your disappearing keystroke problem.  I assign my
pin to Taskbar shortcut from this Jaws icon and never have to mess with it
after a Jaws build update.  Try the following:
1. Open the Start menu, navigate to the Programs folder and open it.
2. Use first letter navigation to the version of Jaws you want to assign the
shortcut keystroke to.  Press the letter, J, until you reach JAWS2018, for
example.
3. With the preferred version of JAWS highlighted Press enter or right arrow
to open, up or down arrow to, JAWS, and this is the icon that you want to
use for creating the shortcut keystroke.
4. So, with the JAWS icon highlighted press, Alt + Enter, to open the JAWS
properties, or press the applications key or Shift + F10 to open the context
menu, and press enter on properties.
5. Assign your keystroke, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay,
and press Enter.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Cristóbal
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key


Not that I know of, but honestly, it's not like it's that bit a deal. I just
go through the install and reboot and go into Jaws properties tab down,
re-do the hotkey and presto. It takes like what? 10 seconds if that.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

Hello.

I have a question about Jaws and setting up a hot key. Is there a way I can
set up a Jaws hot key and not lose it every time Jaws updates to a new
version? NVDA for example never loses its hotkey. Jaws should be the same.



Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

[JM Casey]

I don't think so, no. Between full version numbers this makes sense, as they
are supposed to be able to exist simultaneously on the system and thus the
versions have different path/filenames, etc. But I also don't really see why
a hotkey shouldn't be retained after a cumulative update to a version.

I think the NVDA hotkey works quite differently; it seems to be part of
NVDA's instalation whereas with JAWS it's entirely up to you whether you
want one or not. It's a Windows thing.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: May 28, 2018 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

Hello.

I have a question about Jaws and setting up a hot key. Is there a way I can
set up a Jaws hot key and not lose it every time Jaws updates to a new
version? NVDA for example never loses its hotkey. Jaws should be the same.

 

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

[JM Casey]

Ok. I went to the downloads page, and the meetings client, then to the
manual download button. The other downloads for PC are plug-ins for various
programmes like outlook and IBM Notes, etc.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: May 28, 2018 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

It listed a range of functions and platforms and I just took one and tried
it. If you try your link you will see what I was confused about.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

What choices are you referring to? I installed it sometime last year so the
memory is a bit foggy, but I recall it being pretty straightforward. Lot
easier to deal with than Skype, in fact.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: May 27, 2018 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

I just downloaded it and there were all of these different choices so I
picked on and downloaded it and I could do nothing with it. I will keep
playing.

Wayne

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Is zoom accessible?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

You can do this with zoom. The only issue I really have is that the chat box
won't automatically speak text input by the other person. But you can also
chat via audio. There are keyboard commands for everything. Go to
http://www.zoom.us and download the client.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: May 24, 2018 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Hello all- I need to have a  business call and the other party wants to see
what is on my screen. She is asking me to set up a video chat.  I have never
attempted this before so can somebody tell me if it is possible? I am using
Windows 7 64bit and JAWS 15. I have JAWS 17 on another machine if that would
make a difference.

 

Thanks,

 

Wayne

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