KR>KR-1 Plans

[Chris Kinnaman]

Does anyone have an unused set of KR-1 plans they are willing to sell?

Thanks,

Chris K



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Re: KR> KR-1 for sale?

[Jeff Scott via KRnet]

Gary

 

I'm kind of wondering the same.  Not that it's my business, but I've got frequent flyer miles with the knee surgeons and currently have 1-1/2 artificial knees.  Doesn't keep me out of either plane, nor has any of the numerous knee surgeries I've had over the years.

 

-Jeff Scott

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From: "mark jones via KRnet" 
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Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 254

Hi Gary. I’m curious as to why you can’t fly it after knee surgery.

Mark Jones
Oldsmar, Fl

N771MJ “WunderBird”
www.flykr2s.com
flyk...@gmail.com



> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Gary Bipes via KRnet  wrote:
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> I am still sitting on my KR-1 I will not be able to fly it after knee surgery I need to get $9000.00 out of it. Just reworked things . Never got to fly it . Now sad. To just sit!!! I put more then $11,.000.00 in it. Someone must want a clean plane And biG VW 2333 great planes engine call ready to fly Gary 612 816 8383 . Please help sell it.
>
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KR> KR-1 for sale

[Mark Langford via KRnet]

OK, I changed the subject once, but apparently control-z'd it back
again.  Trying to allow the "KR-1 for sale" email to get through, but
without the digest baggage, and making it easier to find by changing the
subject to what it actually is "a KR-1 for sale.  I've moderated Gary
until he learns to change the subject and delete the excess from the
previous message, so he can't reply online.  Email him directly at
garybi...@hotmail.com.  Would've been nice if he'd included his phone
number and a location in that post too.  This is all covered in the list
rules, which everyone is supposed to read before they post to the list. 
If you don't know where they are, it's in the footer that everybody
keeps reposting a million times, or at http://www.krnet.org/info.html.

> Anybody that replies to the previous KR-1 for sale message needs to
> reply directly to the previous sender, garybi...@hotmail.com , rather
> than to the list.  Replies to this need to go offline, and certainly not
> have the entire digest thrown back out on KRnet several more times.

> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com
> 
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 215
> > From: Gary Bipes via KRnet 
> > Date: Mon, September 17, 2018 8:17 am
> > To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" 
> > Cc: Gary Bipes 
> > 
> > 
> > I still have a NICE KR-1 for sale!!! I justy got a Kolb twinsrtar and 
> > Cherokee 180 and Kolb and Kr-1 will not fit in the hanger.  I need to give 
> > up the KR. I will take a loss to get the room, Vw2333, Gps 520. Electric 
> > start, full canopy. Great Planes engine, This is a great plane. Ready to 
> > fly to the gathering. Has speed brake. Wheel pants, tri gear . ask for pic. 
> > $10,000.00 a steel


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KR> KR-1

[Gary Bipes via KRnet]

I bought another plane, And I have to give up my KR-1, I will sell it for 
$9,600.00 firm price. I paid more, but made a choice . I can’t fly into the pvt 
strip I need to go.Mail me for more info. First class plane. Ready for the 
gathering.

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KR> KR-1

[Gary Bipes via KRnet]

 
I am on the road .!! Hospital ck new hip. Staying overnight but have my 
computer with . I will send pic tonight. I am going to pickup a twinstar to 
finish. So I do not need 3 planes. I have a Cherokee180 to fly all I want the 
owner does not  fly. So I keep it in my hanger . Hey does not fly but very 
little rides . So he said r just use it . Reason For. Selling they said grass 
would not be good. I want to fly into a Pvt strip  so piper can’t  so I get the 
twin star for trading a new back pack chute . Just have to pay partner 
$3,500.00 that is   Reason 
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Re: KR> KR-1

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

Can I get a little more info please?

Where is it, engine, fuel capacity, weights, instrument fit etc.?

Tristan

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Steve G. via KRnet  wrote:
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> Hi Gary. If I hear of anyone I will let you know Or give them your contact 
> info.
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> Steve Glover
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> Sent from my electronic leash. 
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>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 08:56, Gary Bipes via KRnet  wrote:
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>> I have a plane kr-1 for sale, built by Sam bailey. No.2 of 3 aerobatic want 
>> to sell $10,500.00 MN, 612 816 8383
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Re: KR> KR-1

[Steve G. via KRnet]

Hi Gary. If I hear of anyone I will let you know Or give them your contact info.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 08:56, Gary Bipes via KRnet  wrote:
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> I have a plane kr-1 for sale, built by Sam bailey. No.2 of 3 aerobatic want 
> to sell $10,500.00 MN, 612 816 8383
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KR> KR-1

[Gary Bipes via KRnet]

I have a plane kr-1 for sale, built by Sam bailey. No.2 of 3 aerobatic want to 
sell $10,500.00 MN, 612 816 8383

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KR> KR-1 Purchase

[Jerry Mobley via KRnet]

HI,


Retired military pilot looking for a nice KR-1 for sale.  I am more of a 
mechanic/pilot than a builder.  Retractable gear would be nice but not required.


Thanks,


Jerry Mobley
2532 Laurelwood Ln
Valrico, FL 33596
jerry.mob...@verizon.net
813.562.8465





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Re: KR> KR-1

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

ORSON
Please contact me @
virg...@bellsouth.net
Virg











On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
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    S.W. Miami. 5445 S.W. 89th Place
    33165  305-271-3608
    Where are you ? Virg


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Re: KR> KR-1

[Orson via KRnet]

Wow, I never knew a fellow KR enthusiast was so near!  I’m looking forward to 
meeting you.  What are good times to call you?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
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> 
>I go to the Lodge, 245 S Royal Poinciana every month, Virg
> 
>>On 2/13/2018 5:37 PM, Orson via KRnet wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Virginia Gardens/ Miami Springs part of the month and Delray Beach the 
>> other.  Wow, so we are pretty close to each other.  I’m new to the KR world. 
>>  I’ve been doing research on it for over a year.  I’d like to come see your 
>> project.   However, I fractured my left leg pretty badly and I’m in a cast. 
>> If it’s still available, and it’s good for you,  let’s meet in late March!
>> Best wishes,
>> Orson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>S.W. Miami. 5445 S.W. 89th Place
>>>33165  305-271-3608
>>>Where are you ? Virg
>>> 
On 2/13/2018 4:52 PM, Orson via KRnet wrote:
 Virgil,
 What part of Miami is your KR1?
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: KR> KR-1

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

I go to the Lodge, 245 S Royal Poinciana every month, Virg

On 2/13/2018 5:37 PM, Orson via KRnet wrote:

Hello,

Virginia Gardens/ Miami Springs part of the month and Delray Beach the other.  
Wow, so we are pretty close to each other.  I’m new to the KR world.  I’ve been 
doing research on it for over a year.  I’d like to come see your project.   
However, I fractured my left leg pretty badly and I’m in a cast. If it’s still 
available, and it’s good for you,  let’s meet in late March!

Best wishes,

Orson

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
 wrote:


S.W. Miami. 5445 S.W. 89th Place
33165  305-271-3608
Where are you ? Virg


On 2/13/2018 4:52 PM, Orson via KRnet wrote:
Virgil,
What part of Miami is your KR1?
Sent from my iPhone






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Re: KR> KR-1

[Orson via KRnet]

Hello,

Virginia Gardens/ Miami Springs part of the month and Delray Beach the other.  
Wow, so we are pretty close to each other.  I’m new to the KR world.  I’ve been 
doing research on it for over a year.  I’d like to come see your project.   
However, I fractured my left leg pretty badly and I’m in a cast. If it’s still 
available, and it’s good for you,  let’s meet in late March! 

Best wishes,

Orson

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
>  wrote:
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> 
>S.W. Miami. 5445 S.W. 89th Place
>33165  305-271-3608
>Where are you ? Virg
> 
>>On 2/13/2018 4:52 PM, Orson via KRnet wrote:
>> Virgil,
>> What part of Miami is your KR1?
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: KR> KR-1

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

S.W. Miami. 5445 S.W. 89th Place
33165  305-271-3608
Where are you ? Virg

On 2/13/2018 4:52 PM, Orson via KRnet wrote:

Virgil,

What part of Miami is your KR1?

Sent from my iPhone

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KR> KR-1

[Orson via KRnet]

Virgil,

What part of Miami is your KR1?

Sent from my iPhone

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KR> KR-1

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

Project available. Boat, Spars, Engine, Wheels &
Brakes.
Pick up in Miami, Fl
Probably a two day deal,  Questions ?,
Virg

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KR> KR-1 For Sale

[Lou and Linda via KRnet]

We've inherited a KR-1 RG project. The fuselage, wings, and tail are done. 
Wings are currently off for storage. The cockpit and instrument panel are 
mostly complete. The VW engine has some aircraft conversion features and turns 
over, but has not run in a long time. The cowling, propeller, and spinner are 
included. The retractable landing gear is installed. The canopy is included but 
needs mounting, and the plane needs to be painted. A box of plans, records, 
pictures, etc. is included. The project has always been stored indoors and to 
our knowledge has never flown. Asking $2900. Plane is located in Klamath Falls, 
Oregon. For pictures and more details, email luckyin...@gmail.com. Thanks!
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Kayak via KRnet]

who said this, also come from Joe at revmaster? I know that rand had
offered a three blade plastic ground adjustable for a while in the
late 70's IIRC which was discontinued. I thought that was due to blade
root breakage, but not certain. It's almost certainly in the old
newsletter archives (somewhere).

John  wrote:
> Also, ONLY 2 blades. VW's don't like 3 blade. Again it's the harmonics that
>  snaps the crankshaft.

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[John via KRnet]

Also, ONLY 2 blades. VW's don't like 3 blade. Again it's the harmonics that 
 snaps the crankshaft.
 
John
 
 
In a message dated 3/28/2017 10:23:44 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
krnet@list.krnet.org writes:

To echo  what Steve said, the rigidity of the carbon fiber blades on the 
IVO prop as  well as the Warp Drive props are known to cause harmonic 
vibrations that are  detrimental to the life of the crankshaft in that the 
harmonics 
can cause  crankshafts to crack and eventually fail.  It is strongly 
recommended to  use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines.

Of course  with Experimental Aircraft, you are allowed to build contrary to 
 recommendations.  But please be aware of the potential  issues.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos,  NM

--

Unless something has changed IVO props  are not approved for a VW engine.

Steve Glover

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> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan  Vincent-Philpot via KRnet 
 wrote:
>
>  I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D 
required a  ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom 
internal 
exhaust,  new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. 
It's getting  there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front exhaust 
 stubs.
>
>  Tristan

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Yes, I was very pleased to hear that when I contacted Joe as well.


Bob R
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To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "Tristan Vincent-Philpot" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 4:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

I just spoke with Joe at Revmaster. He confirmed that the Revmaster engines 
with their extra bearing and case design are fine with composite propellers 
(including IVOprops). Other VW conversions may not be depending on how modified 
the design is from the auto engine. In fact, Joe told me that the Revmaster was 
originally designed to work with a 14 lb aluminum propeller!

All this direct from the Revmaster man himself.

Panic over.


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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

I just spoke with Joe at Revmaster. He confirmed that the Revmaster engines 
with their extra bearing and case design are fine with composite propellers 
(including IVOprops). Other VW conversions may not be depending on how modified 
the design is from the auto engine. In fact, Joe told me that the Revmaster was 
originally designed to work with a 14 lb aluminum propeller!

All this direct from the Revmaster man himself.

Panic over.

Tristan


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Roy Keller via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Should call RevMaster (760) 244-3074. The RevMaster engines have extra 
> bearings, cast case and mine is even setup for a constant speed prop.  I also 
> have a Great Plains engine conversion which is restricted to wood props only. 
> The Great Plains engine is for sale (336) 977-3922.
> 
> 
> On 3/28/2017 3:32 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
>> Tristan wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting, I will follow that up. Any history behind that statement?
 Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.
>> I don't know who originated it, but I suspect it was GPASC.  It is
>> likely mentioned on their website at www.gpasc.com , or at least their
>> VW building manual.
>> 
>> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Roy Keller via KRnet]

Should call RevMaster (760) 244-3074. The RevMaster engines have extra 
bearings, cast case and mine is even setup for a constant speed prop.  I 
also have a Great Plains engine conversion which is restricted to wood 
props only. The Great Plains engine is for sale (336) 977-3922.



On 3/28/2017 3:32 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:

Tristan wrote:


Interesting, I will follow that up. Any history behind that statement?

Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

I don't know who originated it, but I suspect it was GPASC.  It is
likely mentioned on their website at www.gpasc.com , or at least their
VW building manual.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com


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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

Thank you. I’ll give Revmaster a call.

Tristan

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Robert Russell via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a Revmaster RD2100 on order(used) and after checking with Revmaster, 
> they told me that particular one is not restricted to wooden props. I gave 
> them the serial # and that was their response.
> Bob R
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

oops.. sorry forgot to trim the original message
Bob R

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

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I have a Revmaster RD2100 on order(used) and after checking with Revmaster, 
they told me that particular one is not restricted to wooden props. I gave them 
the serial # and that was their response.
Bob R

- Original Message -
From: "L D Mueller via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "L D Mueller" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:28:37 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

"use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines" that do not have
a redrive . . . . .

L D Mueller
Mueller Aviation
Cuba City WI 53807
Hanger 46 KPVB
LDMueller.COM

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Scott
via KRnet
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:22 AM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Jeff Scott
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

To echo what Steve said, the rigidity of the carbon fiber blades on the IVO
prop as well as the Warp Drive props are known to cause harmonic vibrations
that are detrimental to the life of the crankshaft in that the harmonics can
cause crankshafts to crack and eventually fail.  It is strongly recommended
to use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines.

Of course with Experimental Aircraft, you are allowed to build contrary to
recommendations.  But please be aware of the potential issues.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

--

Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet
 wrote:
>
> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required
a ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal
exhaust, new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp.
It's getting there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front
exhaust stubs.
>
> Tristan

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Mark Langford via KRnet]

Tristan wrote:

> Interesting, I will follow that up. Any history behind that statement?
> > Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

I don't know who originated it, but I suspect it was GPASC.  It is
likely mentioned on their website at www.gpasc.com , or at least their
VW building manual.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com


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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

Interesting, I will follow that up. Any history behind that statement?

Tristan

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Steve G. via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.
> 
> Steve Glover
> 
> Sent from my electronic leash. 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required a 
>> ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal 
>> exhaust, new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. 
>> It's getting there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front 
>> exhaust stubs.
>> 
>> Tristan
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

Thank you for the input, I will dig deeper.

Tristan

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> To echo what Steve said, the rigidity of the carbon fiber blades on the IVO 
> prop as well as the Warp Drive props are known to cause harmonic vibrations 
> that are detrimental to the life of the crankshaft in that the harmonics can 
> cause crankshafts to crack and eventually fail.  It is strongly recommended 
> to use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines.
> 
> Of course with Experimental Aircraft, you are allowed to build contrary to 
> recommendations.  But please be aware of the potential issues.
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
> 
> --
> 
> Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.
> 
> Steve Glover
> 
> Sent from my electronic leash.
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required a 
>> ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal 
>> exhaust, new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. 
>> It's getting there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front 
>> exhaust stubs.
>> 
>> Tristan
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[L D Mueller via KRnet]

"use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines" that do not have
a redrive . . . . .

L D Mueller
Mueller Aviation
Cuba City WI 53807
Hanger 46 KPVB
LDMueller.COM

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Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

To echo what Steve said, the rigidity of the carbon fiber blades on the IVO
prop as well as the Warp Drive props are known to cause harmonic vibrations
that are detrimental to the life of the crankshaft in that the harmonics can
cause crankshafts to crack and eventually fail.  It is strongly recommended
to use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines.

Of course with Experimental Aircraft, you are allowed to build contrary to
recommendations.  But please be aware of the potential issues.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

--

Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet
 wrote:
>
> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required
a ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal
exhaust, new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp.
It's getting there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front
exhaust stubs.
>
> Tristan

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Jeff Scott via KRnet]

To echo what Steve said, the rigidity of the carbon fiber blades on the IVO 
prop as well as the Warp Drive props are known to cause harmonic vibrations 
that are detrimental to the life of the crankshaft in that the harmonics can 
cause crankshafts to crack and eventually fail.  It is strongly recommended to 
use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines.

Of course with Experimental Aircraft, you are allowed to build contrary to 
recommendations.  But please be aware of the potential issues.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

--

Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet 
>  wrote:
>
> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required a 
> ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal exhaust, 
> new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. It's getting 
> there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front exhaust stubs.
>
> Tristan

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Steve G. via KRnet]

Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet 
>  wrote:
> 
> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required a 
> ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal exhaust, 
> new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. It's getting 
> there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front exhaust stubs.
> 
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[baker4493--- via KRnet]

Folks, I have a 2100D for sale- if anyone is interested.Wayne
 

On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:16 AM, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet 
 wrote:
 

 I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required a 
~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal exhaust, 
new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. It's getting 
there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front exhaust stubs.

Tristan
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KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required a ~6 
inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal exhaust, new 
mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp. It's getting there. 
Totally new look with the longer nose and no front exhaust stubs.

Tristan
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Re: KR> KR-1 Revmaster 2100D Conversion

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

Been sat a long time in storage, low compression (cylinder wall corrosion I 
guess). Still turned over and ran but developed approx half power.

It will go up for sale as soon as the conversion to the 2100d is complete.

Tristan

> On Mar 11, 2017, at 12:41 PM, James Buck via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi what was wrong with the 1600?
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via 
> KRnet wrote:   Hi All,
> 
> I have been watching this list for a while as I was looking for a KR-1 to 
> buy. Well, I have finally bought a previously completed but never flown 
> project. I now need to modify it to swap out the original 1600cc motor for my 
> 2100D - actually the builder/previous owner is doing this and other work for 
> me under my guidance and approval. I thought I would publish the progress 
> here in case it helps anyone else, or others here might be able to offer 
> their thoughts as the modification proceeds.
> 
> The first challenges encountered when comparing engines are:
> 
> 1.  The Remaster intake system is on top of the cylinders, whereas the 
> original custom intake was displaced laterally outside the cylinders so the 
> cowling  does not fit. The builder has suggested and I have agreed that he 
> modify the Remaster intake positioning to the same place as the 1600 motor.
> 
> 2.  The original mount (for the 1600 engine) can be modified slightly for the 
> revised mounting geometry of the 2100d but the space between firewall and the 
> remaster case is slightly too small for the Dual magneto setup. I had been 
> strongly considering swapping the magnetos for a SDS Coil Pack Ignition 
> system anyhow, so this has just made that decision easier. I will of course 
> need a battery backup system for a non-magneto system. I will design and 
> install that myself.
> 
> 3.  The unfared stub exhausts of the 1600 will be replaced by a more 
> aerodynamic Revmaster exhaust system, but this will entail modifying the 
> lower cowling to hose this arrangement internally. I will speak to Revmaster 
> to see which of their exhaust systems (Q2, or KR-2 etc) is the best candidate 
> for this application.
> 
> 4.  The Remaster Prop hub sits 3.5-4 inches further forward than the original 
> 1600 engine hub, so the cowling will be modified to incorporate this too.
> 
> The builder has also agreed to lower the seat base and recline the seat back, 
> strengthening the structure for a rollover hoop/headrest, and shoulder 
> harness attachment too.
> 
> One day into the project and lots of challenges encountered. Let’s hope this 
> isn’t a sign…
> 
> Tristan
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Re: KR> KR-1 Revmaster 2100D Conversion

[James Buck via KRnet]

Hi what was wrong with the 1600?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via 
KRnet wrote:   Hi All,

I have been watching this list for a while as I was looking for a KR-1 to buy. 
Well, I have finally bought a previously completed but never flown project. I 
now need to modify it to swap out the original 1600cc motor for my 2100D - 
actually the builder/previous owner is doing this and other work for me under 
my guidance and approval. I thought I would publish the progress here in case 
it helps anyone else, or others here might be able to offer their thoughts as 
the modification proceeds.

The first challenges encountered when comparing engines are:

1.  The Remaster intake system is on top of the cylinders, whereas the original 
custom intake was displaced laterally outside the cylinders so the cowling  
does not fit. The builder has suggested and I have agreed that he modify the 
Remaster intake positioning to the same place as the 1600 motor.

2.  The original mount (for the 1600 engine) can be modified slightly for the 
revised mounting geometry of the 2100d but the space between firewall and the 
remaster case is slightly too small for the Dual magneto setup. I had been 
strongly considering swapping the magnetos for a SDS Coil Pack Ignition system 
anyhow, so this has just made that decision easier. I will of course need a 
battery backup system for a non-magneto system. I will design and install that 
myself.

3.  The unfared stub exhausts of the 1600 will be replaced by a more 
aerodynamic Revmaster exhaust system, but this will entail modifying the lower 
cowling to hose this arrangement internally. I will speak to Revmaster to see 
which of their exhaust systems (Q2, or KR-2 etc) is the best candidate for this 
application.

4.  The Remaster Prop hub sits 3.5-4 inches further forward than the original 
1600 engine hub, so the cowling will be modified to incorporate this too.

The builder has also agreed to lower the seat base and recline the seat back, 
strengthening the structure for a rollover hoop/headrest, and shoulder harness 
attachment too.

One day into the project and lots of challenges encountered. Let’s hope this 
isn’t a sign…

Tristan
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KR> KR-1 Revmaster 2100D Conversion

[Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet]

Hi All,

I have been watching this list for a while as I was looking for a KR-1 to buy. 
Well, I have finally bought a previously completed but never flown project. I 
now need to modify it to swap out the original 1600cc motor for my 2100D - 
actually the builder/previous owner is doing this and other work for me under 
my guidance and approval. I thought I would publish the progress here in case 
it helps anyone else, or others here might be able to offer their thoughts as 
the modification proceeds.

The first challenges encountered when comparing engines are:

1.  The Remaster intake system is on top of the cylinders, whereas the original 
custom intake was displaced laterally outside the cylinders so the cowling  
does not fit. The builder has suggested and I have agreed that he modify the 
Remaster intake positioning to the same place as the 1600 motor.

2.  The original mount (for the 1600 engine) can be modified slightly for the 
revised mounting geometry of the 2100d but the space between firewall and the 
remaster case is slightly too small for the Dual magneto setup. I had been 
strongly considering swapping the magnetos for a SDS Coil Pack Ignition system 
anyhow, so this has just made that decision easier. I will of course need a 
battery backup system for a non-magneto system. I will design and install that 
myself.

3.  The unfared stub exhausts of the 1600 will be replaced by a more 
aerodynamic Revmaster exhaust system, but this will entail modifying the lower 
cowling to hose this arrangement internally. I will speak to Revmaster to see 
which of their exhaust systems (Q2, or KR-2 etc) is the best candidate for this 
application.

4.  The Remaster Prop hub sits 3.5-4 inches further forward than the original 
1600 engine hub, so the cowling will be modified to incorporate this too.

The builder has also agreed to lower the seat base and recline the seat back, 
strengthening the structure for a rollover hoop/headrest, and shoulder harness 
attachment too.

One day into the project and lots of challenges encountered. Let’s hope this 
isn’t a sign…

Tristan
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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

At 10:47 PM 1/2/2017, you wrote:

what is the estimated empty weight, did he mention a number?

++

No, but I'm guessing it will be a bit on the heavy side for a KR1, 
even with a light engine.


Larry Flesner 



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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Kayak Chris via KRnet]

what is the estimated empty weight, did he mention a number?

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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

At 08:38 PM 1/2/2017, you wrote:

is the sides of this fuselage fiberglass instead of  plywood?  Also
are the rib to spar shelf brackets temporary?

+++

No plywood on the fuselage.  Foam center with two layers of glass on 
the outside and one layer of glass on the inside.


Dennis asked for feedback and one of my several observations and 
suggestions was to remove the brackets and cut lightening holes in 
the ribs.  Several other areas of minor overbuild but overall I can't 
fault his workmanship.


Larry Flesner 



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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Kayak Chris via KRnet]

ok no retracts, duh, shoulda gone back and looked.  ideally I'd like
to build a tri-retract, original size KR1, with engine back against
the firewall as original, and with a normalizing turbocharger. the
main retracts are easy. the nose can swing back halfway into a center
pocket (I think). as to a small normalizing turbocharger, tight
squeeze and heat issues. which is why it would most likely be added
later, in a phase two.

point being, I am happy to see some added complexity is possible with
enough thought and skill!

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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

At 09:23 PM 1/2/2017, you wrote:

very cool!  question, I think you said it had retracts, if so where
does the nosegear retract to?

+

No retracts.  It does have a steerable nose wheel.

Larry Flesner 



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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Tinyauto--- via KRnet]

I don't think he said retracts.  He said it had tricycle gear.   Normally 
these are tail draggers.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/2/2017 9:24:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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very  cool!  question, I think you said it had retracts, if so where
does  the nosegear retract  to?

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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Kayak Chris via KRnet]

very cool!  question, I think you said it had retracts, if so where
does the nosegear retract to?

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Re: KR> KR 1 project

[Tinyauto--- via KRnet]

Well I must say Dennis is building very different from what is normally  
seen.  The photos bring up a lot of questions.  You may have mentioned  it 
before, but is the sides of this fuselage fiberglass instead of  plywood?  Also 
are the rib to spar shelf brackets temporary?  Neat  canopy.  I am thinking 
this guy has built things other than airplanes  before.  Great that he is 
building in a basement just like me!!   Probably shouldn't have invited him 
to this group as it may corrupt him.  I  like that he has done so much 
without feedback, that he is building trike gear,  and that he is building the 
best KR.  A KR1.  
 
Kevin Golden
Streak Shadow
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/2/2017 4:39:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
krnet@list.krnet.org writes:



I returned to a local KR1 project today for some photos to  share with the  
net.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8976.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8979.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8981.JPG   folding  wing

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8982.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8980.JPG   steerable nose  
wheel

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8985.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8988.JPG

The  folding wing is a one man process: remove the pins, pull the wing 
panel  outboard (it is spring loaded) and rotate it to the rear.

It will fly  with a 2si 70 hp two cycle water cooled engine.  The 
builder is this  far along in just 13 months and hopes to be flying by 
midsummer.  I'm  pushing him to make Lee Summitt but that will be a 
stretch so to those  attending, this will be your last chance for any 
trophies.

I  encouraged Dennis to join the net so you may be able to e-mail him 
direct  in the near future.  Just don't slow down his building.

Larry  Flesner


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KR> KR 1 project

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

I returned to a local KR1 project today for some photos to share with the net.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8976.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8979.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8981.JPG  folding wing

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8982.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8980.JPG  steerable nose wheel

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8985.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8988.JPG

The folding wing is a one man process: remove the pins, pull the wing 
panel outboard (it is spring loaded) and rotate it to the rear.


It will fly with a 2si 70 hp two cycle water cooled engine.  The 
builder is this far along in just 13 months and hopes to be flying by 
midsummer.  I'm pushing him to make Lee Summitt but that will be a 
stretch so to those attending, this will be your last chance for any 
trophies.


I encouraged Dennis to join the net so you may be able to e-mail him 
direct in the near future.  Just don't slow down his building.


Larry Flesner


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KR> KR-1

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Want a KR-1 Boat ? Virg. Miami Fl


On 11/19/2016 6:37 PM, jibby212--- via KRnet wrote:
> I am in Sarasota Florida, currently I am building an oven an am going to try 
> to blow the canopy a little taller so I can fit in it.
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: Virgil N. Salisbury 
> Sent: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 06:06 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Hand propping VW
>
>
>   Where are you located ? Virg
>
>
>
>   On 11/14/2016 10:44 PM, Rudi Venter via KRnet wrote:
>> Hi Everyone.
>>
>> I own a KR2 with a 2.3l water-cooled VW without electric start. I found
>> that once you have the priming cycle sorted out it really starts easy and
>> it is not dangerous, no more than any other hand propped engine.
>>
>> I agree with the rule "NEVER open the throttle more than a crack" for
>> starting!
>>
>> Wish I could get my hands on a KR1, I just love little single seaters
>> having recently acquired a Druine D.31 Turbulent.
>>
>> Fly safe,
>> Rudi

KR> KR-1 Experimental Aircraft - $3100 (Pioneer, CA)

[svd]

TWIMC - Found this on Craigslist:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/rvs/5586836702.html

Vintage 1970s KR-1 Aircraft, known as "The Eagle" was built in Ione, CA by the 
late Dr. Anthony Guidon, and featured in his book "A Plane Life". This airplane 
was flown in Ione and at Rancho Murietta Airport; but is now stored. Includes 
dash instruments, VW engine, detached wings. Needs some TLC and would make a 
great EAA restoration project. Serious inquiries only. Transportation not 
included.

KR> KR-1 prototype info

[Chris Prata]

N1436 is hanging I believe at EAA museum. But I dont know if that is an 
evolution of the prototype, or a later bird.  

> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:43:56 +
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> KR-1 prototype info
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> My name is Graham Banham, and i'm a model builder in the UK. I'm looking to 
> build a model of Ken Rand's KR-1 prototype after the fitment of the bubble 
> canopy.
> 
> Does anyone know of a source for a three view general arrangement drawing of 
> this aircraft, and photographs?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Graham
> 
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KR> KR-1 prototype info

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I think 1" to the foot would be great, Virg


 On 3/12/2015 7:43 PM, Graham via KRnet wrote:
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>
> My name is Graham Banham, and i'm a model builder in the UK. I'm looking to 
> build a model of Ken Rand's KR-1 prototype after the fitment of the bubble 
> canopy.
>
> Does anyone know of a source for a three view general arrangement drawing of 
> this aircraft, and photographs?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Graham
>
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KR> KR-1 prototype info

[Graham]

Hi All,

My name is Graham Banham, and i'm a model builder in the UK. I'm looking to 
build a model of Ken Rand's KR-1 prototype after the fitment of the bubble 
canopy.

Does anyone know of a source for a three view general arrangement drawing of 
this aircraft, and photographs?

Many thanks

Graham

Sent from my iPad

KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Dave Acklam]

O-200 has been done... NVAero sells a mount...



On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet 
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> Paul said, Corvair on a KR1, WOW! That would be a lot of engine.
>
> Has anyone ever put more than an O-200 on a KR2?   Say an O-235 or so...
>
> Joe
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>  Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet
>  Date:01/20/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> To: John Edwards ,KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair...
> 
> WOW! That would be a lot of engine
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>
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>  Original message From: John Edwards via
> KRnet  Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM
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> KR-1 Corvair... 
> Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?
>
> I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.
>
> I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the
> lightest version in the Corvair line.
> Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?
>
> John E
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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Tesch, Noel]

Here is a link to an accident report for a KR2 with a turbo.  I don't know if 
it was the same one.

http://www.aopa.org/asf/ntsb/narrative.cfm?ackey=1&evid=20050527X00684

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of bjoenunley 
via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:01 AM
To: Adam via KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair...

How does the turbine KR2 story end?

Joe


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: Adam via KRnet  Date:01/21/2015  8:21 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: ppaulvsk ,KRnet  
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair...  
http://www.n56ml.com/strent.html
This is the link to the KR2T story. Turbine powered KR2. Not a good ending. 

Adam Tippin
A&P KR2S builder

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:43 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> I saw that someone put a turboprop on one. I don't know if it ever flew.  
> Maybe someone does.
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[bjoenunley]

How have I NOT heard of the Yamaha Genesis1200 engine before?! ?And my new 
engine shipped out of Maryland today...

So true Kevin. 4 stroke, dual overhead cams, up to 5 valves per cylinder, 
available fuel injection. All they need is a turbo. Liquid cooled internal 
combustion engines, getting smaller, making more power, less weight, no carbs, 
no mags.?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

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KRnet"  Date:01/21/2015  8:58 AM  
(GMT-06:00) To: "'tinyauto at aol.com'" ,'KRnet'  Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 
Corvair... 
"I thought a neat engine for the KR would be the Yamaha Genesis (Vector 
snowmobile) engine."  

So true Kevin. 4 stroke, dual overhead cams, up to 5 valves per cylinder, 
available fuel injection. All they need is a turbo. Liquid cooled internal 
combustion engines, getting smaller, making more power, less weight, no carbs, 
no mags. 

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas



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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[bjoenunley]

How does the turbine KR2 story end?

Joe


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Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
http://www.n56ml.com/strent.html
This is the link to the KR2T story. Turbine powered KR2. Not a good ending. 

Adam Tippin
A&P KR2S builder

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:43 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> I saw that someone put a turboprop on one. I don't know if it ever flew.  
> Maybe someone does.
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Teate, Stephen]

"I thought a neat engine for the KR would be the Yamaha Genesis (Vector 
snowmobile) engine."  

So true Kevin. 4 stroke, dual overhead cams, up to 5 valves per cylinder, 
available fuel injection. All they need is a turbo. Liquid cooled internal 
combustion engines, getting smaller, making more power, less weight, no carbs, 
no mags. 

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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Tony King]

I recall hearing of an O-320 on a KR, but I believe it crashed and killed
the pilot.  Not sure of the details or whether the engine was a factor.

TK

On 21 January 2015 at 11:43, ppaulvsk via KRnet 
wrote:

> I saw that someone put a turboprop on one. I don't know if it ever flew.
> Maybe someone does.
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
>
>  Original message From: bjoenunley via
> KRnet  Date:01/20/2015  8:32 PM
> (GMT-05:00) To: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
> Paul said, Corvair on a KR1, WOW! That would be a lot of engine.
>
> Has anyone ever put more than an O-200 on a KR2?   Say an O-235 or so...
>
> Joe
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>  Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet
>  Date:01/20/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> To: John Edwards ,KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair...
> 
> WOW! That would be a lot of engine
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
>
>  Original message From: John Edwards via
> KRnet  Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM
> (GMT-05:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR>
> KR-1 Corvair... 
> Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?
>
> I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.
>
> I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the
> lightest version in the Corvair line.
> Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?
>
> John E
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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[tinyauto at aol.com]

I thought a neat engine for the KR would be the Yamaha Genesis (Vector 
snowmobile) engine.  120-150 HP in a tiny 4 stroke package.  There is even a 
commercial conversion adapter being made for it now that adapts the Rotax 
gearbox to the engine. I think the running weight is somewhere around 160 lbs.  
Not sure if that includes radiator. 
Kevin Golden

KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Adam]

http://www.n56ml.com/strent.html
This is the link to the KR2T story. Turbine powered KR2. Not a good ending. 

Adam Tippin
A&P KR2S builder

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:43 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> I saw that someone put a turboprop on one. I don't know if it ever flew.  
> Maybe someone does.
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
> 

KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[rbaalman at cox.net]

I will be installing an O235 in my KR2S.  I believe the Lycoming will be 
happier in the KR2 than the C152.  I have to get through the sanding, sanding, 
sanding first.
Roger Baalman
Owasso, OK
rbaalman at cox.net


 Dan Prichard via KRnet  wrote: 
> Look at the krnet. Lynn Hyder put an o235 on his modified kr2. I saw it a few 
> months ago at his daughters house in SW Portland. Wings were sawed off.  He 
> was trying to sell the engine. 

Dan Prichard 
Portland Oregon 

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> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:32 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Paul said, Corvair on a KR1, WOW! That would be a lot of engine.
> 
> Has anyone ever put more than an O-200 on a KR2?   Say an O-235 or so...
> 
> Joe
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
>  Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
>  Date:01/20/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
> To: John Edwards ,KRnet  list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
> WOW! That would be a lot of engine
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
> 
> 
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
> 
>  Original message From: John Edwards via 
> KRnet  Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  
> (GMT-05:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> 
> KR-1 Corvair... 
> Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?
> 
> I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
> lightest version in the Corvair line.
> Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?
> 
> John E
> 
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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[John Edwards]

On 1/20/2015 3:31 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet wrote:
> My 3000 cc will weigh about 225 lbs. I don't know what your 1835 cc weighs.
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>
>
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
>
>  Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
>  Date:01/20/2015  6:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: John Edwards ,KRnet  list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
> WOW! That would be a lot of engine
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
>
>  Original message From: John Edwards via 
> KRnet  Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  
> (GMT-05:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> 
> KR-1 Corvair... 
> Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?
>
> I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.
>
> I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the
> lightest version in the Corvair line.
> Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?
>
> John E
>
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Most if not all 3000cc Corvairs weigh 7lbs less than the adveritised 
225lbs due to the machine work done on the crankcase.
Mine should weigh in about 210lbs

KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Dan Prichard]

Look at the krnet. Lynn Hyder put an o235 on his modified kr2. I saw it a few 
months ago at his daughters house in SW Portland. Wings were sawed off.  He was 
trying to sell the engine. 

Dan Prichard 
Portland Oregon 

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> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:32 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Paul said, Corvair on a KR1, WOW! That would be a lot of engine.
> 
> Has anyone ever put more than an O-200 on a KR2?   Say an O-235 or so...
> 
> Joe
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
>  Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
>  Date:01/20/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
> To: John Edwards ,KRnet  list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
> WOW! That would be a lot of engine
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
> 
> 
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
> 
>  Original message From: John Edwards via 
> KRnet  Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  
> (GMT-05:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> 
> KR-1 Corvair... 
> Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?
> 
> I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
> lightest version in the Corvair line.
> Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?
> 
> John E
> 
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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[ppaulvsk]

I saw that someone put a turboprop on one. I don't know if it ever flew. ?Maybe 
someone does.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.

 Original message From: bjoenunley via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  8:32 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: ppaulvsk via KRnet  Subject: 
Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
Paul said, Corvair on a KR1, WOW! That would be a lot of engine.

Has anyone ever put more than an O-200 on a KR2?   Say an O-235 or so...

Joe

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: John Edwards ,KRnet  Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
WOW! That would be a lot of engine

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.

 Original message From: John Edwards via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 

Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?

I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.

I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
lightest version in the Corvair line.
Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?

John E

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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[Mark Langford]

John Edwards wrote:

 > Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?

I don't know of one, but Richard Shirley has a 3300 Jabiru on his KR-1, 
which is essentially the same power, but  lighter.  Some weight in the 
tail would be required, and the wing loading would be high, and landing 
speed correspondingly higher than with a lighter engine.  But that's 
essentially what I plan on doing, with more wing area and a longer tail 
to tame pitch sensitivity.  Loads of fun would be assured, as well as 
200 mph plus, straight and level.

Steve Trentmans's turbine KR-2T  has flown plenty, but it's a 
gas-guzzler, at something like 12 gph.  There are details from Steve at 
http://www.n56ml.com/strent.html, and also in one of the Pine Bluff 
gathering sites on www.KRnet.org.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com

KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[bjoenunley]

Paul said, Corvair on a KR1, WOW! That would be a lot of engine.

Has anyone ever put more than an O-200 on a KR2? ? Say an O-235 or so...

Joe

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: John Edwards ,KRnet  Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
WOW! That would be a lot of engine

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.

 Original message From: John Edwards via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 

Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?

I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.

I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
lightest version in the Corvair line.
Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?

John E

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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[ppaulvsk]

My 3000 cc will weigh about 225 lbs. I don't know what your 1835 cc weighs.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705



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 Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  6:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: John Edwards ,KRnet  Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 
WOW! That would be a lot of engine

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.

 Original message From: John Edwards via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 

Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?

I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.

I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
lightest version in the Corvair line.
Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?

John E

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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[ppaulvsk]

WOW! That would be a lot of engine

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


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 Original message From: John Edwards via KRnet 
 Date:01/20/2015  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> KR-1 Corvair... 

Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?

I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.

I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
lightest version in the Corvair line.
Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?

John E

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KR> KR-1 Corvair...

[John Edwards]

Does anyone know of a KR-1/Corvair that has flown?

I have a KR-1/VW1835cc that I fly as my daily flyer.

I am considering upgrading to a Corvair 3000cc since this is the 
lightest version in the Corvair line.
Has anyone flown a KR-1/Corvair combo?

John E

KR> KR-1 or single seat KR-2S

[laser147 at juno.com]

Jeff said, 

"Despite Paul's criticism, the VW powerplant works pretty well.  Mike
Stirewalt, who will undoubtedly chime in here, owns the KR 1 1/2, built
by Ken Cottle, then sold to Steve Bennett, then to Mike.  If I recall
correctly, it is a stock KR-2 that is narrowed a bit to make a
comfortable single seat cockpit.  I know Mike likes to fly it high and
long and it performs reasonably well.  Build it light and clean."

That's all true, almost.  Ken Cottle built this KR-1? from KR-1 plans,
widening the fuselage to 24" (I think it's 24" - could be 30" - losing my
memory) at the cockpit.  He lengthened it 7 inches ahead of the spar for
additional leg room since Ken's a tall guy.  I imagine the extra leg room
is one reason Steve Bennett wanted this plane.   Ken added 14" to the
rear.   Ken narrowed the stub wings a bit from plans and then used Diehl
skins and tail feathers.  Looking at receipts this afternoon I saw the
receipt (3/2/86) for the wing skins - $800.  Tailfeathers from Diehl were
$450.  Wingspan is 20' 8" and yes, this plane loves flying high thanks to
the nice wing area and the GP 2180 has no problem with high altitude
airports.  It has an EFS-2 Ellison carb and currently a Sterba 52'x56"
prop that allows the engine to run full throttle at 3100 at altitude
(10.5 to 14.5) where it cruises at 149 MPH at 3.5 to 4 GPH.  Fuel on
board is 21 gallons.  I've never gotten around to narrowing my cooling
inlets so I'm carrying a ton of cooling drag - pushing air back out the
front.  Probably get at least another 5 MPH if I ever do that.  I should
have modified my cooling inlets a long time ago.   

There's nothing to criticise about the VW, either Great Plains or
Revmaster.  GP engines are less expensive to maintain since Revmaster is
proprietery with some engine components.   A nice Corvair with that
additional bearing and an Ellison carb would be a truly wonderful smooth
engine for little money.  But my plane came with what it's got and it
flies beautifully.  

Setting a KR-2 up as a single-seater is a great idea though.  Look at
George McHenry's adaptation for perhaps the most luxurious example.  That
extra room in the cockpit and on the panel is nice.

My first KR, a standard KR-2 which I sold in 1989, had sling seats and a
center stick.  I used to sit in the center and enjoy the head room and
space on each side for charts & other stuff.  When I occasionally took
someone flying in it, it was not much fun except for short local flights.
 I'm sure the S is a big improvement with two up.   

Mike
KSEE



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KR> KR-1 drawings missing from plans

[Tim Hoversten]

Greetings from OSH!

I purchased a set of KR-1 plans from Jeanette Rand in Feb of 2009, and am 
getting ready to start building. I was reviewing the plans booklet and 
revisions, and noticed there are some drawings that are missing.?

On page 22, step 8.1.1 refers to drawing #9 concerning rudder pedals and pg 25, 
step 8.1.5 refers to rudder cables and nicopress fittings, also on drawing #9.

On page 49, steps 14.2 and 14.9 refer to back up plates in the firewall area 
and to drawing #13

Also on page 49, step 14.9 refers to drawing #14, regarding engine mounts and 
mounting hardware.


Is there any way to get drawings 9, 13 and 14 for the KR-1?
?
Tim Hoversten
Oshkosh, WI

?
"Whatever you think is impossible, is really impossible for you. And whatever 
you think is possible, it really is possible for you, just don't be afraid to 
try it. Make a plan, consult with your friends and with the experts, with 
everyone who can help you - and follow your dreams. Life is easy. So keep 
smiling and be happy!" - Jan Hercek, Slovenian paraplegic pilot??

KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Dan Heath]

Steve emailed me the other day that he was flying the KR1 to the Gathering.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il – MVN – 40th
Anniversary
There is a time for building and it is over.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
http://www.krbuilder.org/MyUSA/

-Original Message-

Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR Gathering
photos, it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane, so if Steve Glover was
flying it, it's Steve.

KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Eric James Pitts]

It came through


Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Ind.

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in 
sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and 
screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
 

--- On Tue, 9/25/12, Jeff Scott  wrote:


From: Jeff Scott 
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 down at AEG
To: "KRnet" , "Mark Langford" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 6:09 PM


I sent this earlier, but as seems to be normal for KRNet, my post apparently 
didn't go through.

I just talked to Steve.  As reported on the news, he's pretty sore, but OK.  

Steve was en route to the Gathering.  The weather was degrading while he was 
crossing NM and he had to land in Albuquerque Double Eagle Airport (AEG) while 
a squawl line was passing.  Winds were 28 Gusting to 35 at 70 degrees off from 
either runway.  He simply ran out of options and had to attempt the landing.  
The little plane simply didn't have enough rudder to deal with that much of a 
crosswind component.  Steve says he almost had it when he dragged a wing tip 
and things started going bad.  He got whacked pretty good by his back pack that 
was tucked in the back of the canopy, so is pretty sore from that, but is 
otherwise OK.  No doubt he'll be finding new bruises over the next few days.

The plane is badly damaged, but rebuildable.  Steve says he is contemplating 
buying a ticket to St Louis to attend the Gathering, then fly back to ABQ to 
rent a truck to haul the plane home to rebuild.  So, We may see him at the 
Gathering this weekend and he'll have a story to tell.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 09/25/12 05:51 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> KR-1 down at AEG
> 
> At 06:31 PM 9/25/2012, you wrote:
> >Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR 
> >Gathering photos, it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane,
> >-Jeff Scott
> ++
> 
> Your right Jeff. I looked at the same photos and mistook it for 
> Richards KR1, forgetting Tom's slick looking KR was there.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Jeff Scott]

I sent this earlier, but as seems to be normal for KRNet, my post apparently 
didn't go through.

I just talked to Steve.  As reported on the news, he's pretty sore, but OK.  

Steve was en route to the Gathering.  The weather was degrading while he was 
crossing NM and he had to land in Albuquerque Double Eagle Airport (AEG) while 
a squawl line was passing.  Winds were 28 Gusting to 35 at 70 degrees off from 
either runway.  He simply ran out of options and had to attempt the landing.  
The little plane simply didn't have enough rudder to deal with that much of a 
crosswind component.  Steve says he almost had it when he dragged a wing tip 
and things started going bad.  He got whacked pretty good by his back pack that 
was tucked in the back of the canopy, so is pretty sore from that, but is 
otherwise OK.  No doubt he'll be finding new bruises over the next few days.

The plane is badly damaged, but rebuildable.  Steve says he is contemplating 
buying a ticket to St Louis to attend the Gathering, then fly back to ABQ to 
rent a truck to haul the plane home to rebuild.  So, We may see him at the 
Gathering this weekend and he'll have a story to tell.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 09/25/12 05:51 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> KR-1 down at AEG
> 
> At 06:31 PM 9/25/2012, you wrote:
> >Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR 
> >Gathering photos, it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane,
> >-Jeff Scott
> ++
> 
> Your right Jeff. I looked at the same photos and mistook it for 
> Richards KR1, forgetting Tom's slick looking KR was there.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Jeff Scott]

I just talked to Steve.  As reported on the news, he's pretty sore, but OK.  

Steve was en route to the Gathering.  The weather was degrading while he was 
crossing NM and he had to land in Albuquerque Double Eagle Airport (AEG) while 
a squawl line was passing.  Winds were 28 Gusting to 35 at 70 degrees off from 
either runway.  He simply ran out of options and had to attempt the landing.  
The little plane simply didn't have enough rudder to deal with that much of a 
crosswind component.  Steve says he almost had it when he dragged a wing tip 
and things started going bad.  He got whacked pretty good by his back pack that 
was tucked in the back of the canopy, so is pretty sore from that, but is 
otherwise OK.  No doubt he'll be finding new bruises over the next few days.

The plane is badly damaged, but rebuildable.  Steve says he is contemplating 
buying a ticket to St Louis to attend the Gathering, then fly back to ABQ to 
rent a truck to haul the plane home to rebuild.  So, We may see him at the 
Gathering this weekend.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 09/25/12 05:51 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> KR-1 down at AEG
> 
> At 06:31 PM 9/25/2012, you wrote:
> >Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR 
> >Gathering photos, it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane,
> >-Jeff Scott
> ++
> 
> Your right Jeff. I looked at the same photos and mistook it for 
> Richards KR1, forgetting Tom's slick looking KR was there.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Mark Langford]

I just talked to Steve.  He's a bit beat up, but OK.  Something like 26 mph 
crosswinds gusting to 35 mph, and ran out of rudder.  He's catching a 
commercial flight out tomorrow and will be ready for root beer when he 
arrives at the Gathering.  The plane is repairable, but then Steve could fix 
anything!

I'll see y'all Thursday afternoon...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 

KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 06:31 PM 9/25/2012, you wrote:
>Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR 
>Gathering photos, it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane,
>-Jeff Scott
++

Your right Jeff.  I looked at the same photos and mistook it for 
Richards KR1, forgetting Tom's slick looking KR was there.

Larry Flesner

KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Dave Acklam]

As in NV Aero Steve?
On Sep 25, 2012 4:32 PM, "Jeff Scott"  wrote:

> Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR Gathering
> photos, it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane, so if Steve Glover was
> flying it, it's Steve.
>
> -Jeff Scott
>
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> > Sent: 09/25/12 05:06 PM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: Re: KR> Weather
> >
> > >Looks likd we have a kr like plane down in abq pilot will
> > >Be ok kr pilots please be careful
> > +
> >
> > I hate to even suggest it or speculate but it sure looks like Richard
> > Shirley's KR1 to me. :-( :-( Bummer for whoever it is.
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
> >
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KR> KR-1 down at AEG

[Jeff Scott]

Looking at the photos on KOAT TV and compared to the 1997 KR Gathering photos, 
it is definately Tom Bagnatto's old plane, so if Steve Glover was flying it, 
it's Steve.

-Jeff Scott


> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 09/25/12 05:06 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Weather
> 
> >Looks likd we have a kr like plane down in abq pilot will
> >Be ok kr pilots please be careful
> +
> 
> I hate to even suggest it or speculate but it sure looks like Richard 
> Shirley's KR1 to me. :-( :-( Bummer for whoever it is.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

[Lance McBride]

Sorry.  That would be the yahoo groups krsig website.  

 
--
Lance McBride



From: Lance McBride 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

I uploaded some photos of the project to the group site.  They're in the folder 
N7753.  
 
Earlier this summer I pressure washed the plane to get the flaking paint off 
which is part of why it looks like it does.  I started sanding and primering, 
which is why portions of it are grey.  It really needs a product to remove the 
rest of the paint before being reworked.  I saw something on here about a 
product that'll take paint off of fiberglass which would be perfect.  

--
Lance McBride

 


From: Lance McBride 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

For someone looking to get a jumpstart on a KR-1 build, I have a KR-1 
restoration project for sale - N7753.  The registration is still in the 
original builder's name.  It was in flying condition at one point and has a 
temporary airworthiness certificate, but that was a long time ago.  The story I 
was given when I bought it was that the plane was in a barn when the barn 
collapsed. According to the logbooks, the original builder ran it off field 
during the high-speed taxi testing.  It sat for about a year before he 
installed a new prop on it.  
 
The fiberglass parts of the plane are in pretty beat-up shape, but the main 
parts of the wooden fuselage, including fiberglass the winglets, are in pretty 
good shape.  One wing isn't too bad, a few bumps here and there, but one will 
almost need to be completely rebuilt.  It looks like there was a problem with 
the fuel tank in the wing that needs to be rebuilt, because someone took a saw 
to upper glass/foam.  The elevator has a smashed hole in it where it looks like 
a board went all the way through.  The cockpit is in decent shape, although the 
instrument panel is gone.  The retractable landing gear is in good shape.  The 
cockpit bubble is pretty good with some minor scuffing.  The woodwork in the 
fuselage is really well done and has held up nicely over the years.  
 
I've started the restoration process, sanding/primer painting.  I haven't 
gotten very far and was mainly just trying to get a layer of paint on the glass 
to keep it from deteriorating.  I can see that it would be a very nice and 
sleek plane when it's done.  
 
I also have a set of plans and some cloth that are included.   I used the 
engine on another project, and it is not included in the sale.  
 
I'm asking $1000 obo.  I'd prefer local pickup, but I can deliver it if it's 
not too far from SLC.  
 
If you're interested, I can send some pictures of it's current condition.  

--
Lance McBride
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KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

[Lance McBride]

I uploaded some photos of the project to the group site.  They're in the folder 
N7753.  
 
Earlier this summer I pressure washed the plane to get the flaking paint off 
which is part of why it looks like it does.  I started sanding and primering, 
which is why portions of it are grey.  It really needs a product to remove the 
rest of the paint before being reworked.  I saw something on here about a 
product that'll take paint off of fiberglass which would be perfect.  

--
Lance McBride

 


From: Lance McBride 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

For someone looking to get a jumpstart on a KR-1 build, I have a KR-1 
restoration project for sale - N7753.  The registration is still in the 
original builder's name.  It was in flying condition at one point and has a 
temporary airworthiness certificate, but that was a long time ago.  The story I 
was given when I bought it was that the plane was in a barn when the barn 
collapsed. According to the logbooks, the original builder ran it off field 
during the high-speed taxi testing.  It sat for about a year before he 
installed a new prop on it.  
 
The fiberglass parts of the plane are in pretty beat-up shape, but the main 
parts of the wooden fuselage, including fiberglass the winglets, are in pretty 
good shape.  One wing isn't too bad, a few bumps here and there, but one will 
almost need to be completely rebuilt.  It looks like there was a problem with 
the fuel tank in the wing that needs to be rebuilt, because someone took a saw 
to upper glass/foam.  The elevator has a smashed hole in it where it looks like 
a board went all the way through.  The cockpit is in decent shape, although the 
instrument panel is gone.  The retractable landing gear is in good shape.  The 
cockpit bubble is pretty good with some minor scuffing.  The woodwork in the 
fuselage is really well done and has held up nicely over the years.  
 
I've started the restoration process, sanding/primer painting.  I haven't 
gotten very far and was mainly just trying to get a layer of paint on the glass 
to keep it from deteriorating.  I can see that it would be a very nice and 
sleek plane when it's done.  
 
I also have a set of plans and some cloth that are included.   I used the 
engine on another project, and it is not included in the sale.  
 
I'm asking $1000 obo.  I'd prefer local pickup, but I can deliver it if it's 
not too far from SLC.  
 
If you're interested, I can send some pictures of it's current condition.  

--
Lance McBride
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KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

[Robert Carroll]

i WOULD TAKE IT AS SALT LAKE CITY??  BOB CARROLL



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Cc: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

Lance,How about telling us where local isJoe Horton,Coopersburg, Pa

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KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

Lance,How about telling us where local isJoe Horton,Coopersburg, Pa

53 Year Old Mom Looks 33
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KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

[Hal Dantone]

Any photos?  Location?   

Hal Dantone
Houston, TX





From: Lance McBride 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 11:14:16 AM
Subject: KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

For someone looking to get a jumpstart on a KR-1 build, I have a KR-1 
restoration project for sale - N7753.  The registration is still in the 
original 
builder's name.  It was in flying condition at one point and has a temporary 
airworthiness certificate, but that was a long time ago.  The story I was given 
when I bought it was that the plane was in a barn when the barn 
collapsed. According to the logbooks, the original builder ran it off field 
during the high-speed taxi testing.  It sat for about a year before he 
installed 
a new prop on it.  


The fiberglass parts of the plane are in pretty beat-up shape, but the main 
parts of the wooden fuselage, including fiberglass the winglets, are in pretty 
good shape.  One wing isn't too bad, a few bumps here and there, but one will 
almost need to be completely rebuilt.  It looks like there was a problem with 
the fuel tank in the wing that needs to be rebuilt, because someone took a saw 
to upper glass/foam.  The elevator has a smashed hole in it where it looks like 
a board went all the way through.  The cockpit is in decent shape, although the 
instrument panel is gone.  The retractable landing gear is in good shape.  The 
cockpit bubble is pretty good with some minor scuffing.  The woodwork in the 
fuselage is really well done and has held up nicely over the years.  


I've started the restoration process, sanding/primer painting.  I haven't 
gotten 
very far and was mainly just trying to get a layer of paint on the glass to 
keep 
it from deteriorating.  I can see that it would be a very nice and sleek plane 
when it's done.  


I also have a set of plans and some cloth that are included.   I used the 
engine 
on another project, and it is not included in the sale.  


I'm asking $1000 obo.  I'd prefer local pickup, but I can deliver it if it's 
not 
too far from SLC.  


If you're interested, I can send some pictures of it's current condition.  

--
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KR> KR-1 restoration project for sale

[Lance McBride]

For someone looking to get a jumpstart on a KR-1 build, I have a KR-1 
restoration project for sale - N7753.  The registration is still in the 
original builder's name.  It was in flying condition at one point and has a 
temporary airworthiness certificate, but that was a long time ago.  The story I 
was given when I bought it was that the plane was in a barn when the barn 
collapsed. According to the logbooks, the original builder ran it off field 
during the high-speed taxi testing.  It sat for about a year before he 
installed a new prop on it.  
 
The fiberglass parts of the plane are in pretty beat-up shape, but the main 
parts of the wooden fuselage, including fiberglass the winglets, are in pretty 
good shape.  One wing isn't too bad, a few bumps here and there, but one will 
almost need to be completely rebuilt.  It looks like there was a problem with 
the fuel tank in the wing that needs to be rebuilt, because someone took a saw 
to upper glass/foam.  The elevator has a smashed hole in it where it looks like 
a board went all the way through.  The cockpit is in decent shape, although the 
instrument panel is gone.  The retractable landing gear is in good shape.  The 
cockpit bubble is pretty good with some minor scuffing.  The woodwork in the 
fuselage is really well done and has held up nicely over the years.  
 
I've started the restoration process, sanding/primer painting.  I haven't 
gotten very far and was mainly just trying to get a layer of paint on the glass 
to keep it from deteriorating.  I can see that it would be a very nice and 
sleek plane when it's done.  
 
I also have a set of plans and some cloth that are included.   I used the 
engine on another project, and it is not included in the sale.  
 
I'm asking $1000 obo.  I'd prefer local pickup, but I can deliver it if it's 
not too far from SLC.  
 
If you're interested, I can send some pictures of it's current condition.  

--
Lance McBride

Fw: KR> KR-1 Plans

[Brian and Sue Deveson]

Hi all,

Looking for Mr David Wade to see if these plans are still available.

Thanks for the lead Phil.

Brian
sbdeve...@bigpond.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Phillip Matheson" 
To: "Brian and Sue Deveson" 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:12 AM
Subject: Fw: KR> KR-1 Plans


>I found this
> Phil
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: David wade 
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 4:40 PM 
> To: kr...@mylist.net 
> Subject: KR> KR-1 Plans 
> 
> Also I have KR-1 plans for $100.00 Firm. 
> 
> Mr wade
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KR> KR-1 & KR-2 Plans and parts.

[David wade]

I have had no luck in selling my KR-2 fuselage so i decided to part out what I 
currently have for it.  I have a complete list of what i have. There is no 
avionics,radios or engine. But other items of interest feel free to contact me. 
My name is David.

KR> KR-1 Plans

[David wade]

Also I have KR-1 plans for $100.00 Firm. 
 
Mr wade

KR> KR-1

[David Rayburn]

If you would be in the market for a boat stage KR1 that has been done
rite with tons of extras, ( Sort of as a parts spare ) I have almost
everything you need to finish the air frame. At a price that could
save you several thousand.   And I might even be able to deliver it
for just travel expenses. This could be a cheap way to put your
restoration into fast forward.  And I guarantee you won't be
disappointed with the workmanship on this project.

Dave  314 971 3433

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Steve Rice  wrote:
> Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever. It was however,
> in far worse shape than I had thought that it was. I firgure that it is
> repairable, but I am in the process of calculating how much time and money
> it will take. Upon investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
> main center spar has the grain running horizontal. Looking at the manual, it
> shows that the grain is to be verticle. I am just learning about wood
> structure airplanes, so help here is REALLY needed. There are some big RED
> flags that I see in the construction of this plane. Am I correct in thinking
> that having the sheer web grain in the wrong direction is a really bad
> thing? I have some grave concerns now about restoring this plane.
> Thanks for any help
> steve...@gmail.com
>
> --
> Have a good day -- Steve
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KR> KR-1

[Marty Martin]

Look to see just what the top and bottom spar material is.  As long as it is
Stica Spruce or Clear Doug Fur.  You will be fine.  You can use a power hand
planner and remove the web on both sides.  As l have done this very same
thing but only to one side and just at the end.  So I just used a power hand
planner and removed the web.  The smaller the cut the more control you
have.  Don't get in a hurry.

Of coarse, this is only the case as long as any other webbing on the project
(fuselage) is correct.  don't think  you can correct the fuselage by
glassing it.  That is just no good and it adds unneeded weight.  So if the
fuselage is wrong, it will be good fire wood this winter.  But check out any
other installed webbing to see that it is installed correctly before
thinking you have something that can be worked.

Marty Martin

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Larry&Sallie Flesner
wrote:

> At 11:06 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote:
> >Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever.  Upon
> >investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
> >main center spar has the grain running horizontal.
>
> +++
>
> That was a good spot.  I'm not sure how many folks would have caught
> that error.  Is the center section spar installed in the fuselage
> already?  Have the spars run through a planer and remove the ply,
> check the woodwork and rebuild.
>
>

KR> KR-1

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 11:06 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote:
>Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever.  Upon 
>investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
>main center spar has the grain running horizontal.
+++

That was a good spot.  I'm not sure how many folks would have caught 
that error.  Is the center section spar installed in the fuselage 
already?  Have the spars run through a planer and remove the ply, 
check the woodwork and rebuild.

If you have "grave concerns"about the airplane you may never 
really be comfortable with it.  Getting a second or third opinion 
after a close inspection may change your mind or you may want to 
spend your time on a project more to your liking.

Larry Flesner

KR> KR-1

[Steve Rice]

Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever. It was however,
in far worse shape than I had thought that it was. I firgure that it is
repairable, but I am in the process of calculating how much time and money
it will take. Upon investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
main center spar has the grain running horizontal. Looking at the manual, it
shows that the grain is to be verticle. I am just learning about wood
structure airplanes, so help here is REALLY needed. There are some big RED
flags that I see in the construction of this plane. Am I correct in thinking
that having the sheer web grain in the wrong direction is a really bad
thing? I have some grave concerns now about restoring this plane.
Thanks for any help
steve...@gmail.com

-- 
Have a good day -- Steve

KR> KR-1, 2 project & parts

[laser...@juno.com]

Thurman is a long-time-back KR guy.  Sorry to see he's hanging it up . . . age 
gets us all eventually.  

Mike
KSEE



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KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

[John Caudle]

Hi Steve,

Once again I apologize to you and the list.  I can make no excuse for my actions
other than I picked the wrong place to vent.  I am truly sorry!

Gods Speed, 

J.E. Caudle

Fenwick, WV

363TB (On the Bench)
<>

Over the years I have seen this kind of letter from many experimental  
aircraft companies before.  Few are still with us.  Good luck with  your 
advancement of the KR.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO

KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

[Ray Fuenzalida]

Hey Steve,
I never listen to the gripes of others because it is too easy to gripe and too 
hard to accept and understand or at the very least contact you first.  Don't 
worry about it.  I am sorry you even felt the need to respond to this guy.
 
Also, if you host a Gathering I promise to come.  If it's 2012 it will be in a 
KR2S.
Ray
New Orleans

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Plane Nut  wrote:


From: Plane Nut 
Subject: RE: KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)
To: "'KRnet'" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 10:12 PM


Netter's,

As most of you know, we took over operations from RR this past year.  So one
can imagine there has been some growing pains while attempting to get things
moving again.  Between a blown out knee, moving in and out of hangars for
due to potential flooding, and now with moving into a larger facility in
attempt to streamline and be more productive, this has been a HUGE
undertaking.   We are working diligently to get the remaining orders out
that we have and anticipate having everything caught up by the end of the
year or shortly after depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank
you for your patience to those we have outstanding orders with)

Currently there is myself, and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING
for production!  We do not have enough revenue to hire employees as there
still is not enough volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the
homebuilt community.  This IS NOT our primary method for making a living.
Eric is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours away.
He is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties
for nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when his
time permits based upon his current Op Temp.  Otherwise, production is
basically me.  I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating and any other gopher
jobs required.  We have some items contracted out such as welding, precision
machining, etc.  

Eric and I have a desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials
for people to build their KR aircraft.  We certainly didn't get into this to
get rich.  The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the rights
to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that she sells
the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover our
shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is 40
miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and shipping.)  Due
to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the KR-1 plans to us.
The drawings and additional copies she provides are at current market rates
from the printers.  The book is the same as everyone else has received for
the past several years but those are rapidly running out so I anticipate
another increase once the current inventory is depleted.  

This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post.  I do feel he should have contacted me
first before posting to the net with his "displeasure".  I think I addressed
it fairly well above but let me be clear, WE buy the plans for $95.  We sell
at $114.95.  We found that is easier for flat rate shipping for our shopping
cart system due to the various destinations in the US and abroad.  So, $25
for "shipping" less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card
is used. This leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with
delivery confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for our
time to pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was
with Mr. Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get
them to the post office or however we ship.  Clearly we are making a TON of
money for the hassle.

I am a little displeased myself with Mr. Caudle's post given our original
correspondence.  Nothing was misleading when he inquired about the plans and
their quality. I guess I should have been VERY specific as to the additional
pages showing the new dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings instead
of photos. You can see my email to him below.  

BEGIN MSG.
"Dear Mr. Caudle,

Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1.  I have not seen the Corby Starlet
plans so could not comment on how they compare however, there have been
several hundred KR-1's build over the years.  The KR-1 plans were drawn in
the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately 64 pages. The full
size drawings are for the airfoil only.  Dimensionally the additional photos
and measurements in the manual are pretty clear.  One positive thing
regarding the KR series is the builder support is outstanding.  The KR-net
has about 600 members and answers to most of your are readily available.  Of
course you can contact us as well.   I will work on converting a copy of a
page from the plans to send to you."
END.

Keep in mind these plans were written a very long time ago.   To answer the
various

KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

[tinya...@aol.com]

Over the years I have seen this kind of letter from many experimental  
aircraft companies before.  Few are still with us.  Good luck with  your 
advancement of the KR.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 10/19/2010 10:12:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
n92...@cox.net writes:

Netter's,

As most of you know, we took over operations from  RR this past year.  So 
one
can imagine there has been some growing  pains while attempting to get 
things
moving again.  Between a blown  out knee, moving in and out of hangars for
due to potential flooding, and  now with moving into a larger facility in
attempt to streamline and be more  productive, this has been a HUGE
undertaking.   We are working  diligently to get the remaining orders out
that we have and anticipate  having everything caught up by the end of the
year or shortly after  depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank
you for your patience  to those we have outstanding orders with)

Currently there is myself,  and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING
for production!  We do  not have enough revenue to hire employees as there
still is not enough  volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the
homebuilt  community.  This IS NOT our primary method for making a living.
Eric  is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours 
away.
He  is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties
for  nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when  
his
time permits based upon his current Op Temp.  Otherwise,  production is
basically me.  I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating  and any other 
gopher
jobs required.  We have some items contracted out  such as welding, 
precision
machining, etc.  

Eric and I have a  desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials
for people to  build their KR aircraft.  We certainly didn't get into this 
to
get  rich.  The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the  
rights
to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that  she 
sells
the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover  our
shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is  40
miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and  shipping.)  
Due
to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the  KR-1 plans to us.
The drawings and additional copies she provides are at  current market rates
from the printers.  The book is the same as  everyone else has received for
the past several years but those are rapidly  running out so I anticipate
another increase once the current inventory is  depleted.  

This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post.  I do feel  he should have contacted me
first before posting to the net with his  "displeasure".  I think I 
addressed
it fairly well above but let me be  clear, WE buy the plans for $95.  We 
sell
at $114.95.  We found  that is easier for flat rate shipping for our 
shopping
cart system due to  the various destinations in the US and abroad.  So, $25
for "shipping"  less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card
is used. This  leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with
delivery  confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for 
our
time to  pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was
with Mr.  Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get
them to  the post office or however we ship.  Clearly we are making a TON  
of
money for the hassle.

I am a little displeased myself with Mr.  Caudle's post given our original
correspondence.  Nothing was  misleading when he inquired about the plans 
and
their quality. I guess I  should have been VERY specific as to the 
additional
pages showing the new  dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings 
instead
of photos. You can  see my email to him below.  

BEGIN MSG.
"Dear Mr.  Caudle,

Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1.  I have not seen  the Corby 
Starlet
plans so could not comment on how they compare however,  there have been
several hundred KR-1's build over the years.  The KR-1  plans were drawn in
the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately  64 pages. The full
size drawings are for the airfoil only.   Dimensionally the additional 
photos
and measurements in the manual are  pretty clear.  One positive thing
regarding the KR series is the  builder support is outstanding.  The KR-net
has about 600 members and  answers to most of your are readily available.  
Of
course you can  contact us as well.   I will work on converting a copy of a
page  from the plans to send to you."
END.

Keep in mind these plans were  written a very long time ago.   To answer the
various questions  posted regarding the KR-1 plans.  The pages that have 
been
removed  from the back of the manual were outdated and did not reflect
current  building recommendations.  There also was engine info from  
Revmaster
as well as parts and kit availability that is 

KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

[Marc Baca]

Steve;

I'm based out at El Monte and have a KR-1. I"m 17 minutes away by C-172.   I 
would be willing to volunteer some production time it it would help you.   My 
interest would be to learn techniques.  


Marc Baca
mbf...@yahoo.com





From: Plane Nut 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 8:12:06 PM
Subject: RE: KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

Netter's,

As most of you know, we took over operations from RR this past year.  So one
can imagine there has been some growing pains while attempting to get things
moving again.  Between a blown out knee, moving in and out of hangars for
due to potential flooding, and now with moving into a larger facility in
attempt to streamline and be more productive, this has been a HUGE
undertaking.   We are working diligently to get the remaining orders out
that we have and anticipate having everything caught up by the end of the
year or shortly after depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank
you for your patience to those we have outstanding orders with)

Currently there is myself, and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING
for production!  We do not have enough revenue to hire employees as there
still is not enough volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the
homebuilt community.  This IS NOT our primary method for making a living.
Eric is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours away.
He is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties
for nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when his
time permits based upon his current Op Temp.  Otherwise, production is
basically me.  I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating and any other gopher
jobs required.  We have some items contracted out such as welding, precision
machining, etc.  

Eric and I have a desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials
for people to build their KR aircraft.  We certainly didn't get into this to
get rich.  The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the rights
to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that she sells
the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover our
shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is 40
miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and shipping.)  Due
to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the KR-1 plans to us.
The drawings and additional copies she provides are at current market rates
from the printers.  The book is the same as everyone else has received for
the past several years but those are rapidly running out so I anticipate
another increase once the current inventory is depleted.  

This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post.  I do feel he should have contacted me
first before posting to the net with his "displeasure".  I think I addressed
it fairly well above but let me be clear, WE buy the plans for $95.  We sell
at $114.95.  We found that is easier for flat rate shipping for our shopping
cart system due to the various destinations in the US and abroad.  So, $25
for "shipping" less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card
is used. This leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with
delivery confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for our
time to pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was
with Mr. Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get
them to the post office or however we ship.  Clearly we are making a TON of
money for the hassle.

I am a little displeased myself with Mr. Caudle's post given our original
correspondence.  Nothing was misleading when he inquired about the plans and
their quality. I guess I should have been VERY specific as to the additional
pages showing the new dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings instead
of photos. You can see my email to him below.  

BEGIN MSG.
"Dear Mr. Caudle,

Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1.  I have not seen the Corby Starlet
plans so could not comment on how they compare however, there have been
several hundred KR-1's build over the years.  The KR-1 plans were drawn in
the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately 64 pages. The full
size drawings are for the airfoil only.  Dimensionally the additional photos
and measurements in the manual are pretty clear.  One positive thing
regarding the KR series is the builder support is outstanding.  The KR-net
has about 600 members and answers to most of your are readily available.  Of
course you can contact us as well.   I will work on converting a copy of a
page from the plans to send to you."
END.

Keep in mind these plans were written a very long time ago.   To answer the
various questions posted regarding the KR-1 plans.  The pages that have been
removed from the back of the manual were outdated and did not reflect
current building recommendations.  There 

KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

[Plane Nut]

Netter's,

As most of you know, we took over operations from RR this past year.  So one
can imagine there has been some growing pains while attempting to get things
moving again.  Between a blown out knee, moving in and out of hangars for
due to potential flooding, and now with moving into a larger facility in
attempt to streamline and be more productive, this has been a HUGE
undertaking.   We are working diligently to get the remaining orders out
that we have and anticipate having everything caught up by the end of the
year or shortly after depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank
you for your patience to those we have outstanding orders with)

Currently there is myself, and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING
for production!  We do not have enough revenue to hire employees as there
still is not enough volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the
homebuilt community.  This IS NOT our primary method for making a living.
Eric is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours away.
He is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties
for nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when his
time permits based upon his current Op Temp.  Otherwise, production is
basically me.  I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating and any other gopher
jobs required.  We have some items contracted out such as welding, precision
machining, etc.  

Eric and I have a desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials
for people to build their KR aircraft.  We certainly didn't get into this to
get rich.  The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the rights
to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that she sells
the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover our
shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is 40
miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and shipping.)  Due
to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the KR-1 plans to us.
The drawings and additional copies she provides are at current market rates
from the printers.  The book is the same as everyone else has received for
the past several years but those are rapidly running out so I anticipate
another increase once the current inventory is depleted.  

This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post.  I do feel he should have contacted me
first before posting to the net with his "displeasure".  I think I addressed
it fairly well above but let me be clear, WE buy the plans for $95.  We sell
at $114.95.  We found that is easier for flat rate shipping for our shopping
cart system due to the various destinations in the US and abroad.  So, $25
for "shipping" less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card
is used. This leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with
delivery confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for our
time to pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was
with Mr. Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get
them to the post office or however we ship.  Clearly we are making a TON of
money for the hassle.

I am a little displeased myself with Mr. Caudle's post given our original
correspondence.  Nothing was misleading when he inquired about the plans and
their quality. I guess I should have been VERY specific as to the additional
pages showing the new dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings instead
of photos. You can see my email to him below.  

BEGIN MSG.
"Dear Mr. Caudle,

Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1.  I have not seen the Corby Starlet
plans so could not comment on how they compare however, there have been
several hundred KR-1's build over the years.  The KR-1 plans were drawn in
the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately 64 pages. The full
size drawings are for the airfoil only.  Dimensionally the additional photos
and measurements in the manual are pretty clear.  One positive thing
regarding the KR series is the builder support is outstanding.  The KR-net
has about 600 members and answers to most of your are readily available.  Of
course you can contact us as well.   I will work on converting a copy of a
page from the plans to send to you."
END.

Keep in mind these plans were written a very long time ago.   To answer the
various questions posted regarding the KR-1 plans.  The pages that have been
removed from the back of the manual were outdated and did not reflect
current building recommendations.  There also was engine info from Revmaster
as well as parts and kit availability that is not longer valid.  These pages
are removed by RR before we receive them. 

Hopefully this clears up any questions regarding the plans or our commitment
to the KR series of aircraft.  

We have just moved into a 60' X 60' hangar at Corona (AJO) and are planning
a build out to incorporate packing facilities, kitchen, bath office, and
classroom/ pilot lounge areas.  Our goal is to crea

KR> KR-1 Plans

[Bob Buzby]

i am happy with what i bought...Ken Rand was an amazing man...'nuff said for 
me...i learned a lot...

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:29:56 -0700
> From: jdl...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I would say they are a little better now... 8 -)
> 
> J.E. Caudle
> 
> Fenwick, WV
> 
> 363TB (On the Bench)
> <>
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  
> <>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
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KR> KR-1 Plans

[John Caudle]

Hi Ed,

I would say they are a little better now... 8 -)

J.E. Caudle

Fenwick, WV

363TB (On the Bench)
<>

Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
had -  
<>

KR> KR-1 Plans

[tinya...@aol.com]

I have KR plans purchased directly from Jeanette.  I gave her $60 I  think 
it was, and she gave me the plans in person.  As odd as this may  sound, I 
didn't buy my KR drawings because I was wanting a KR.  I buy plans  mostly as 
a collector, used more for education.  I am a member of the KR  group 
because I enjoy the groups activity, the "get-r-done" attitude, and the  ideas 
that come from the members as they build their aircraft.  The KR  has evolved 
into something other than what the plans offer.  I don't think  you want to 
build either a KR1 or 2 without a HUGE dose of internet research,  going to 
the yearly fly-in, or visiting one on one with those who have been  there.  
If you don't do at least 2 of the three you will be sorry down the  line.  

What do I think of the plans?  I think I could build a rocket ship of  an 
airplane from them using the new airfoil.  To power the  airplane I would use 
the 120 HP Yamaha Vector snowmobile engine like is being  used in the 
gyrocopters.  I bet it would cruise well past  redline. 

What am I building?  Streak Shadow from an old kit.  I want to  fly from my 
property (short) and be able to cruise at least 100 mph.  I  have my eyes 
on the Yamaha for this airplane too.  Same weight/size as the  Geo metro, but 
twice the power.

If a KR is what you want, then a KR you shall have.  There is  massive 
amount of information out there.  I have never met a person  who isn't willing 
to share their construction work. 

Go to it.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO.







In a message dated 10/18/2010 12:45:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jdl...@yahoo.com writes:

Men of  KR Flight:

I just received my KR-1 plans and am not overly  pleased.

1)   Shipping and Handling cost $25.00 for a package  the USPS shipped for 
$6.00
2)   No packing  list.
3)   Several prints labeled KR-2...
4)   6 pages  missing from the instruction manual.  

At this point I don't know  if I have everything I need to build the 
aircraft or not.
I have a sinking  feeling I wasted $139.00.  I thought my Corby plans left 
something
to  be desired.  After paging through the KR-1 plans I will never say a bad 
 word
about the Corby prints again!

I ran across a post in the  archive that advised purchasing the KR-2 plans 
to supplement
the KR-1  plans.  It sure seems a shame to have to spend an additional 
$204.95 plus  $25.00 for shipping to get what you need to build the craft...  
Is 
any  one else having this issue?

Respectfully,

HillBilly  John
Fenwick, West Virginia   

J.E. Caudle

Fenwick,  WV

363TB (On the Bench)



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