On 20/05/11 4:11 PM, Sister Claire wrote:
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
some thorns are very thin such as cactus needles.
Anna
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The point is well made. Pins have been around since the bronze age so
the question begs to be asked why use thorns, fish bones etc when you
have access to pins. Now since lace making as we know it came into being
around the 15th century (please correct me if I'm a bit early here), but
pins of
I tried wrapping threads around both a wooden dowel and cardboard BUT
there is one major problem to that method (sorry Brenda) UNLESS you use
a constant tension on your thread as you wind it you can change the
number of wraps per inch quite significantly. I experimented using a
loose hand
On 6/06/11 11:27 AM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:
The beauty of Brenda's book, is that all the wpi are done by her, -
therefore the same hand and the same tension. This means it is a better
comparison than each of us doing our own measure!
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
lizl...@bigpond.com
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I have recently bought a number of out of print Lace books through the
Lace Guild in the UK, they have second hand books with a catalogue
online (ie you can download it from their web page). The prices
including postage to Australia was quite reasonable and the service was
super excellent.
Your mail box may register some of the mail as spam or may junk it
automatically. If you have good mail filters it happens. If the mail
'JUNKED' by your mail system, simply look in the junk folder and they
could well be there. Some spam just doesn't get through and is lost in
the aether (I
I wash my lace but only when needed. For allergy reasons I use only a
pure soap powder for all my washing.
I have a piece of silk lace on my silk winter nightie and that gets a
hand wash whenever the nightie is washed. I do iron the nightie and the
lace. Since the nightie is now 6 years old
I hope I'm not just repeating what others have said. I feel that books
are a precious resource and need to be protected. Paper books are great
but expensive to produce and keep in stock. Ebooks in whatever form are
excellent as well.
May I suggest that authors keep a master print copy of
Thai is a simple REDOX reaction and I'm even lazier. I place the silver
in a huge aluminium pot, add loads of bicarb, add a few strips of
aluminium foil, cover with water and let simmer for a while.
Anna in a cloudy Sydney
On 24/09/11 4:31 AM, Jean Nathan wrote:
Gave up on silver polishing
And 'The Little grey Rabbit Makes Lace'
And what about 'The Hunting of the Snark? Beaver is a lacemaker.
Anna from a warm and sunny Sydney
On 20/10/11 11:04 AM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:
You might suggest the Children's librarian put out The Lace Snail by Betsy
Byers.
Devon
In a message
Clay thank you so much for making the comment using continental laces as
your example. I agree with all you say concerning the need for coloured
diagrams. Further when working lace from the Dutch 17th century where
the pricking consists of a few isolated pins, the diagram is essential.
I
There is an excellent resource for all of us courtesy of LOKK. Go to
their site under their free patterns. take a look at the archive. they
have all sorts of wonderful tape patterns and others that would more
than suite your needs. If you get the child to research it herself then
you have not
Had already made the decision to work towards my Teaching Certificate in
Crochet when I heard this week that Betty Franks collapsed and died a couple
of days ago in Brisbane. Oh to be able to display the same generosity and
quiet confidence. I met Betty for the first time in October at the
On two trips to OIDFA Congresses in Europe my roommates purchased large
lace-related collectibles that would not fit in a suitcase and that the shops
had not wrapped securely for air travel. Those times, the plastic bags
came in handy for bringing home something much-treasured as carry-on
Most of the replies have answered you question regarding hook size for
threads.
I've crocheted everything from mohair through all the different wool
types, silks, synthetics and all types of cotton.
The specifically produced crochet cotton gives the best results, as well
as the tatting
Hi Jo
The only pitfall I can think of is organizing the half stitch in the
motif. Remember that in Flanders the worker in each row changes and
becomes a passive while another worker takes over. If you can manage to
do that type of change over then it should be fine. Experiment.
Anna from a
Let me assure you all that Teneriffe is alive and well and flouricing in
my part of Australia. I happen to love that type of lace and am
cnstantly experimenting with it.
Anna from a cold but sunny Sydney
On 5/07/12 10:27 AM, Debora Lustgarten wrote:
Hello all,
I'll venture the suggestion
David
I never simply work on one thing, I have a challenging pattern usually
teaching myself a new technique, any easy pattern to do just for fun, a
project eg gifts for family members, and at least 2 others all of
different types of lace. I love going from one to the other as the mood
and
On 3/09/12 8:48 PM, Jennifer Audsley wrote:
I purchased small quantities on Ebay from a seller The FiberOpticStore.
That was end emitting, but he may be able to help with side emitting. Side
emitting is much more expensive, and bear in mind that end-emitting does
leak some light along its
I've been doing close work (lace, embroidery, patchwork pieced by hand
etc) for over 55 years (grandmother put a needle in my hand before I
went to school) and I actually asked my eye specialist that question
many yeas ago. His answer was no it should not, doing close work while
also watching
Hi Kim
The Vatican Museum has lots of very interesting things, from memory
there were some vestments on display but where I can't remember (was
there in 1999 and again in 2003). Many of the murals and paintings
feature lace. The catch with the museum is that you should spend the day
there,
From early December, I do not start any new pieces of lace until most
of my projects from the previous year are finished, freeing up bobbins
and pillows. Then I spend January planning the next year's projects and
preparing prickings etc, by Australia Day I've usually started most of
my new
I wash silk regularly, all my nighties and slips are silk. I usually do
what David has suggested on some occasions I have even used 'preen' ( a
prewash spray on stain remover to remove bad stains. This is a method of
last resort, and I leave it on for less than minute before washing the
Hi All
As a Science Historian, the one thing I can tell right now is that a
flash drive will be old technology and will have no use within 10 years.
Data storage devices change every time there is a new advance. It is
only a matter of a few years before flash drives are a thing of the past
On 22/04/13 4:57 PM, Jean Nathan wrote:
DH was an engineering lecturer and taught, among other things, technical
drawing. When the subject started to move to computers, he brought home
what the college had because he didn't think computers would catch on
(LOL) and knew the college would throw
I have read with interest all the discussions on lace conventions.
Travel costs are the big thing that stand in the way of attending any
convention this applies to the US as well as Australia where distances
are very similar. And yes we have the same requirements as well. I've
been a member of
On 27/04/13 8:24 PM, Achim Siebert wrote:
Does anyone know what those threads compare to in thickness (wraps/cm)?
Retor d'Alsace cotton - no. 40 and 60 on eBay. I guess it's comparable to
Broder Machine 40 and 60 which are given in
Brenda's book as having 36 and 46 wraps/cm. The intended use
It would work if you only have only carry-on luggage. If you check a suitcase,
it would not come off at the midway stop. Or you could mail your luggage
ahead. I usually have too much stuff for a week of lace classes to fit in a
carry-on. And... I have to allow room for the things I
Can anyone out there tell me the name or url of the facebook lace page.
I've just joined one for quilting an am having a ball.
Anna from a cloudy Sydney
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Thank you everyone who replied about the facebook pages. I'm having a
ball investigating them.
Anna from a cold but sunny Sydney. OK it isn't that cold but it is for me
On 17/05/13 4:35 AM, Lorelei Halley wrote:
A few days ago Liz posted links to some FACEBOOK lace groups. I have 2 more
to
I have scanned images of lace, lace patterns and working diagrams and
saved them as pdf. These can then be put on your ipad or reader. And
there you have it.
I have actually saved some of the papers from the Arizona Uni website
(the one with lace books) onto my ipad to read. may I also say I
I want to apologise to all spiders who may have sent me an email and had
it bounce in the last 2 days.
A stranger sent me an email with an attachment that was so large it
filled up my inbox and all subsequent emails were 'bounced'.
All is well now
Anna from a cool Sydney
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On 12/06/13 11:28 AM, Liz and Ken Roberts wrote:
I will have a great opportunity through my employer to explore/learn any of
several hundred different computer software programs over a week's time.
Besides Excel (and its formula mysteries) I thought I would check out any
possible programs that
On 15/06/13 7:13 AM, jo wrote:
@Anna
Couldn’t you share some of your templates, why let others reinvent the
wheels? I shared my baby steps on
http://bobbin-lace.wikispaces.com/software+reviews but never tried to
walk the lane any further.
@spiders using http://www.gimp.org
I just wrote a
Just found it on the Book Depository
http://www.bookdepository.com/Fine-Style-Anna-Reynolds/9781905686445
for $A61 and free postage to us.
I always check this site out for all my books. They have a good
selection of all types of craft books.
Anna in a cold and wet Sydney
On 23/06/13
On 7/07/13 11:13 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:
I am astonished that no one has challenged the notion that people with
superior math/science/computer programming skills make the best
lacemakers!!
I've just logged on and yes I was totally affronted with that statement
too. Let me put it in
Joke wrote:
Also parents nowadays expect all adults, who work with children in
after school activities or clubs, to be CBR checked as well.
In Australia anyone who works with children needs to get a police check
done. It is standard for teachers, ancillary staff, volunteers and
sports
Hi all
Ive enjoyed the conversation here are a few hints learnt from experience
If you want to teach lacemaking but your local school is not open to it,
try the local library. Some local libraries are happy to host a 1 to 2
hour session in one of their reading rooms. Sometimes they will allow
Jenny, having met you for the first time last year, I'm not at all
surprised that the munchkins keep coming back. You are an inspirational
teacher.
And surrogate grandmother how lovely. There are lots of very young
grandmothers
I must admit i have been surprised that the group has
In our discussion about teaching children we forgot to mention social
media like Facebook.
Last year shorty after I was elected President of my Branch of the
Australian Lace Guild, I set up a state Facebook page as an outreach
tool. Go out to the market place where the young hang out. Most of
Hi Spiders
I've just discovered that one of my friends and member of my lace group
has just won the John Bull Trophy from the Lace Guild in Britain. Her
Medieval Garden is just lovely! Congratulations to Christine and all the
winners. A gallery of their work is on the Guild website.
Never ever through anything out.
Firstly give or sell them to other lacemakers in your area. Many lace
guilds or groups have a mechanism to recycling old magazines / books etc
to newer members be it a sign at a lace day saying 'free to a good home'
or selling them for a small cost and using
I have been a user of inter-library loans for quite some time.
I've used both university inter-library loans and municipal ones. In NSW
where I live there is a charge for using both. The university ones are
part of a research budget and I've never seen an account for these. Most
recently ie
On 18/09/13 6:07 AM, Karen Bovard wrote:
I did that once so that I could better understand what my new tatting students
were going through in the learning process. It was an interesting
experiment. I was successful in that I was able to learn tatting
'left-handed'.
I am left handed and learnt
A non-lacemaking friend of mine was in Turkey and bought some lace which
was sold as 'handmade'. When she gave it to me she said that she had
bought it for me because it looked interesting, but was not convinced it
was hand made. When I opened the tissue I saw two small pieces of Oya
lace, I
Many of our older more set in their way teachers, say you have to learn
things in a set order. It is often the way they learnt or were taught.
Has anyone thought that this may be why young people are not taking up
lace? Our young people want to fly before they learn to walk but often
they do
To follow the discussion I had 2 brilliant bobbin lace teachers.
I started lace when I was 26 years old and a very new Mum. Jenny Fisher
was my first teacher, quite demanding and exacting but I learnt the
basics when I couldn't get to regular classes, she had private classes
for me (and my
On 4/11/13 10:01 AM, c...@fastmail.us wrote:
A few days ago I stopped getting any emails from lace or lace chat. Can
anyone tell me if there has been a problem with the server or if it
could be at my end. You can reply directly to me.
Cindy
Same thing has happened to me but I got your
I do both bobbin lace and play chess, yes they are similar. Both require
you to think/ do problem solving in similar ways. Think ahead of your
current move, work out where you are going next and plan the next phase.
How often have we studied a pricking before we have wound the bobbins
and
Bibilla Knotted Lace by Dickson
Needle Lace Flowers by Figen Cakir. I may get that for
Christmas from DH (on my wish list on his Amazon account- I like to make
things simple). Does anybody have this book? Any comments?
I have both books, bought one (Dickson) locally and the other (Cakir)
I've just checked
the book is available at the Book Depository
http://www.bookdepository.com/Cause-English-Lace-Anne-Buck/9780903585262
free postage to Australia
Hope this helps
Anna from a wet Sydney
On 9/01/14 12:49 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:
Dear Friends,
publication details of In
Ok I'm not trimming the post because I feel it is too important to lose
the thread.
I usually hate the 'me too' comments BUT on this occasion I agree with
both writers. I am passionate about history especially scholarly
histories and it pains me that most good ones are not in English. Please
Christine is currently on a cruise and may not have email. She is on
Arachne so she will get your message. In 'real life' Christine is a
talented and generous lacemaker. She gave a wonderful presentation in
February on the use of Gimps. The presentation was at a NSW Lace Day.
She is going to
I simply have to publicly thank Janice for being so generous with her
poppy patter. After David told us about his poppy and his intention to
wear it on ANZAC Day, I contacted Janice off list to ask her for the
pattern and to also ask if it could be published 'down under'. She very
generously
Laws concerning copyright vary from country to country.
The rule of thumb I use is to ask the author of the pattern permission
to use the pattern, I state exactly how I want to use it and how many
copies I want to make and to whom it will go. I have never had a rejection.
Anna from a hot
You can buy it directly from Heather Billington, Australian privacy laws
prevent me from giving out her address and email to a wide speard group.
However I shall forward the original email to her if that is OK
Anna who is preparing for her husband's Caving Club Christmas Party (at
our house
I have just come home from the last Lace Day for NSW Lacemakers and
apart from being able to relax since I'm no longer President of the
Branch, I had a wonderful surprize which I simply must share.
Margaret Stephens one of our best needle lace teachers has just produced
a book on Embroidered
On 1/01/15 1:13 AM, Gon Homburg wrote:
Dear Arachnes
I just published the edging for this week 1 on my site http://bit.ly/1wTaqm5
http://bit.ly/1wTaqm5
Lots of fun with it.
Also I wish all of you a Happy New Year with lots of lace fun.
Gon Homburg from a grey Amsterdam, The Netherlands
At
I'm currently working a 's Gravenmore scarf using a bolster pillow. The
pattern is and adaptation of Susan Wensel's scarf from a workshop she
gave in Sydney in 2013. I have over 70 pairs and since I'm using a thick
silk thread it is about 8 inches wide.
May I say it is working well and for a
I usually have a number of small projects or things I want to 'try out'.
I use my left over thread to make lengths of simple lace or experiment
with a new lace or produce samples for teaching purposes.
The lengths of lace or experiments get sewn onto hand towels. If the
lace is stitched all
One of my sons lives in New York city, Manhattan to be specific. I plan
to visit him in the next few months. Could any locals tell me if there
is a lace group that meets there, and let me know where and when they meet.
Also is there any must see places, I plan to visit all the usual museums
I am curious - how did you use the contrasting colour? Was it the
worker in your cloth stitch sections?
Im using colour as workers on the cloth stitch areas but also as a
gimp, two types 'in your face' ie 2 strands wound on and 'gentle' one
strand.
Anna from a cloudy Sydney where I think a
My question to you is, what qualities should I look for when choosing a thread
for a bobbin lace scarf? I would like it to be soft and flowing so I am
thinking silk or a silk blend and I want the grid size to be fairly large,
maybe 8 mm between footside pins. My biggest concern is that the
I would you wool felt. I have a wool felt pillow which is now 30 years
old and works a charm and still hold the pins. As a quilter I often have
strips or wool wadding/batting left over from some of my quilts. I've
used these when repairing roller pillows and for my bolster. Again works
very
Thank you Gon we now have 52 weeks of insertions. You have given us a
whole years worth of insertions, some new techniques, some variations on
something not so new and all inspiring.
Anna from a sunny Sydney
Again it is Wednesday and time to inform you about the insertion of this week.
It
Ruth is on Arachne so I assume she will write to you privately
Anna from a very overcast Sydney.
On 2/11/15 12:03 PM, Nancy Neff wrote:
Does anybody know whether Ruth Budge had updated her book for Lace8?Â
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Hairpin crochet is crochet since it can be done with fine thread say
forming a handkerchief edge or it can be done in thick yarn to form a
sweater or cardigan. It is the same technique and out in OZ it has
always been classed as a separate crochet technique.
Anna from a cloudy Sydney where it
I feel very pleased at present, a workshop I gave in Orange NSW has a
report and my response and my pattern in the latest issue of 'Australian
Lace'.
Anna from a cold overcast Sydney and surveying the affects of the 2 day
storm front
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I have just discovered Aurifil. It comes from Italy and it comes in 3
sizes 28, 40 and 50. The DMC equivalents are, Broder Machine 30 =
Aurilil 28 and Broder 50 = Aurifil 50. best part is that if you are
working Flanders or Point Ground laces, the Aurifil 50 and 28 can be
used together as
Hi Spiders
I'm after a book which is no longer in print and my Guild library does
not have a copy of it.
Does anyone out there know where I can find a copy of it.
The book is 'Fascinating Lace' by Claire Burkhard 1986. ISNB is
9783258036106.
I've already done a Google search.
I want to
To all spider who replied, thank you.
I have downloaded the part I was most interested in and am currently
enjoying it.
Anna from a wet Sydney
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Hi All
As an Australian I feel I should say a few things.
Firstly I have found noting offensive said by anyone, so cultural
differences are not the issue.
I believe the issue is simply computer access to the web.
I have been involved with computer education since the late 1980's.
A couple
Wow how wonderful, another thing to do when I'm visiting family in NYC.
Let us all support them.
Anna from a smokey Sydney (hazard reduction burns to protect us next
summer from bush fires)
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I was under the impression from what I was told was that the reason the Circle
failed was a bit of both - lack of members and lack of members willing to
serve on their Committee.
Jane Partridge
I would like to comment on Jane's comment. I believe that membership of
many Lace Guilds is down and
Hi All
I'm taking the opportunity to have a whinge about 'Piecework' May June
2016 issue I get this as an emagazine through my local library.
There is an illustration of a beautiful piece of gros point lace
labeled as crochet, it is on page 12.
The rest of the magazine is simply beautiful
Dear Everyone
Thank you Avital for bringing the issue of the survey onto the list. I
personally am annoyed with all the individual responses.
I did not respond to the survey because I was not told why it was being
carried out, 'curiosity' is not sufficient. The survey is not annonymous
since
Hi Susan et al
I have just made a foam pillow, so here are some suggestions:
The foam you will buy will probably be bigger than you want , so trace
the size and shape on the top by pencil or felt tip pen.
cut using a hot wire cutter, my husband constructed one for us. It is
similar in
Hi All
I make Teneriffe and am about to embark on Nanduti.
They are made differently but look similar.
They come from drawn thread work which is embroidered lace BUT
Teneriffe is made on a circular disc and I have a few that are other
shapes (OK all home made). The base thread is held in
Getting the tension right in Flanders is a bit tricky. I never use
support pins BUT I do tall my students when they tension they should pat
their bobbins down rather than pulling them. You never pull the worker
bobbins just keep them loose and allow the ring pair and ground to
tension them.
The most reliable carbon dating is up to about 15,000 years. That is
about 3 half lives (carbon 14 half life is 5,740 years with an error of
30 years). So for lace it should be reasonably accurate.
Laurie why did anyone want to carbon date lace. I'm assuming it is
needle lace or sprang.
years
old. That is why I mentioned that lace is in the historic period and you
would be better to date the lace using type, style and thread composition.
Anna in Sydney where it has just started to rain
On 14/2/17 9:45 am, Anna Binnie wrote:
The most reliable carbon dating is up to about
Dear Jerri
I usually hate the 'me too' responses to comments made on the list BUT
today I really had to say I agree 100% with you and yes my dreaded me
too response.
I wish these was a way in which members of the list can agree with a
comment as important as yours without clogging up each
Or we could do both and support all lace enthusiasts!
Anna from a cloudy Sydney
We have two possibilities to go to the lace festival in Bruges in 2018 or
looking forward to the OIDFA meeting in 2020.
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Hi fellow spiders
I'm writing to publicly than Gon and her team of lace teachers and
designers who over the last 2 years have produced an edging pattern,
pricking and instructions every week! This is a mammoth effort and the
results cover every type of continuous lace from beginner to
A commemorative bobbin and an afternoon or morning tea/get together.
Have a cake to share and perhaps a small snack and tea/coffee or if you
are daring and don't need to drive a glass of bubbles.
Anna who is currently re-organising her craft room and rediscovering
'treasures' in a cold Sydney
The Pella thread turned out to be quite interesting. I am very
pleased that it is so uniform & smooth compared to other linen threads I
have used. Is this a characteristic of the twist, the fiber, the plies
or some combination thereof? Whatever their process, I found it easier
to tension
I wonder what the average amount of time is for designing a pattern? When we
ask people to contribute a pattern to a project are we essentially asking for
50 hours of their time? At a rate of say, $10 an hour, is it the same as
soliciting $500 from people or asking them to provide over a week a
I'm not sure if it still happens, in the mid 1970's the Indian
government were trying to support rural industries by selling their
wares in government sponsored shops in touristy areas of India, such as
Delhi and what was Bombay. I bought a number of items in these stores,
dresses embroidered
I've just finished reading the paper. Excellent review on how
radiocarbon dating works! And the answer, well read the paper.
Thanks Laurie!
Anna from a cold wintery Sydney
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I get mine as an eMagazine borrowed from my locla library through
Zinnio. I know that you can buy electronic copies through Zinnio if you
have an account.
Anna from a wintery Sydney
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Just a note, Janice Blair gave permission for Australian Lacemakers to
use her design for poppies on the Centenary of ANZAAC. It was printed in
Australian Lace in (I think) 2014.
Anna in a sunny Sydney
On 31/8/17 3:27 am, Sue Babbs wrote:
I've sent a message to the organizers of the poppy
Just a little bit of background. In 2015 when local communities around
Australia were producing poppies to commemorate the Centenary of ANZAC
it was being said that the War memorial in Canberra wanted to collect
all the poppies produced by the different communities and would plant
them all in
On 28/8/17 10:32 am, robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I didn't see anything in the instructions about putting stems on the 5,000
(website figure) or 62,000 (Sue's figure). Too bad they don't want bobbin lace
poppies, too.
Oh you can make bobbin lace poppies, our local community celebrations
Sorry if I'm a bit of a bore, I remember there was a discussion on this
thread, could someone please tell me its equivalents or its wpi, please.
I have just used the 40 and 50 for machine quilting and used the 28 for
lace and thought the 80 would be great for finer laces.
Thanks
Anna in a
Wow!!! We have had some of the most amazing posts in the last few
weeks/months!
Can I thank everyone who has participated and put in their thread of
information. Our combined minds have produced several very worthwhile
references to lacemakers in the future.
Thank you all and I have enjoyed
Susan please remember always it is your lace it is your interpretation
of a pattern and unless you are submitting your work for assessment,
your lace should be done in a manner that is convenient for you, and
makes life easy for you.
Always ignore the lace police they only have power if you
I have been playing with Schneeberger Lace recently and the Historian in
me is asking lots of questions.Can any of you help me please I really
want references to books and museums not just hearsay.
From what I have read Schneeberger lace is a 20th century lace, who
developed it?
Does it
Margaret Stephens, here in Australia, is very much an expert and teacher
in needle lcae. her classes at both the Embroiders' Guild and the Lace
guild are booked out. She has even written 2 how to books one on
Retecella and one on Amelia Ars. Both show the traditional and modern
colour.
Anna
Hi I have several reels and plan to use it soon. Its thickness is very
close to the old DMC retours no 80. I think it is a little finer. it has
a lovely sheen and the thicker thread can act as a good gimp. I have
used the 28 thickness and it is a dream to use with a lovely sheen.
I think the
Susan, thank you for showing that you can learn the techniques of Binche
by expanding the pricking and using a thicker thread. I've been battling
for years that to learn a technique you need to see the threads clearly
and as some of us are aging , instead of using magnifiers we should
consider
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