Hi,
I just finished another little piece from Barbara Underwood's 20 LESSONS. You
can see it here:
http://laceioli.ning.com/photo/bedfordshire-lace474?context=latest
It is part of the ring pillow set of patterns, and my original intention was
to work the whole pillow design. But when I got to th
Here is a description of how one individual went about creating a poppy
project piece in Clones lace (Irish crochet).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwgLWFrJOpo&feature=player_detailpage
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Those of you interested in Irish crochet really must take a look at the
ravelry.com network. They have a very active Irish crochet group which has
monthly crochet-a-longs. They call them August 2012 CAL, July 2012 CAL, etc.
They select a motif from one of the online out-of-print books, and they a
Here is an example. Olgemini is also a member of ravelry.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54057130@N02/6426640287/in/photostream/
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Another album of Caen photos:
https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/CaenIphone?feat=content_no
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Hello
I have been thinking about this issue of machine-made versus hand-made for a
long time, and this seems like an appropriate time to address the issue.
I think that the essential difference between machine made lace and handmade
lace is that there are two entirely different groups of people to
Kathleen
Perhaps I should have been more specific. I was thinking of lacemakers in the
18th century. Your remarks do fit somewhat better for the 19th century, but
not the 18th. There was a reason that the French revolution happened.
We have all heard about how lacemakers supposedly worked the s
Alan Cole, who was writing around 1900, wrote some books about lace, but also
wrote reports to the government about the economic condition of lacemakers. I
think he was curator of the V & A for a while.
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Clay
I don't know about the threads you specifically mention. But if you hang them
spread out among the others, they won't show (except to you) in the finished
lace. What will make the color difference visible is if all the optic white
are hung right near each other. Then you will have lace with
In the note I posted on the 13th at 5:41 am I did say that my remarks applied
more to the 18th century than the 19. Conditions in the society as a whole
changed drastically from 1700 to 1900. The industrial revolution happened
during that period. In its early phases it produced brutal conditions
Lyn
I don't think there exists a bobbin that will hold all the thread for such a
large piece. I think you will have to replenish bobbins part way through,
probably all of them. But if you replenish bobbins by working the old thread
and the new thread together, and do the replacing in a cloth stit
I just finished another lace from Barbara Underwood's book, #9.
http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlacenewrevival.html It is the first one on that
page.
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Here are some interesting laces, mostly torchon, Cluny and hybrids, one LePuy
guipure.
https://picasaweb.google.com/leboreira/Arguero2012?feat=content_notification#
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If you love ferns, you will love this lace:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/bobbinlace/pool/with/7886470258/#photo_7886470258
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this is an unusually good example of mixed tape lace.
But I am suspicious. I would need to be able to see the threads to be sure.
Sorry that I can't give a more definitive answer.
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You have to see these Irish crochet shorts!
http://www.crochedaanjinha.com/2012/09/shorts-em-croche.html?utm_source=feedb
urner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CrocheDaAnjinha+%28CROCHE+DA+ANJIN
HA%29
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Ilske
I look forward to photos of top secret dress when it is finished.
Many years ago when I was young and thin, I made a 2 piece crocheted orange
dress, a purple knit dress, and a knit coat. Strangers on the subway would
stop me and say how beautiful the coat was. That was back in the day of m
For those who love sol laces, here are some marvelous ones from Hvar,
Croatia.
http://sitakrajka.blogspot.com/2012/03/hvarska-krajka-hvarska-cipka.html
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I have just added a new web page to my website. It is another free bobbin
lace lesson.
http://lynxlace.com/learningbobbinlace-square3.html
http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlacefreepatterns.html for the full list
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I just learned that fioretombolo has a new site:
http://fioretombolo.wall.fm/ It seems to have started June of this year.
It was on ning until started charging a fee. Then it moved to socialgo. Then
that was cancelled. Now it has this new host. It's members do mostly
Italian tape lace.
Lo
If webshots is closing, I suggest that arachne photos be stored with flickr.
I have both a flickr account and a google/picasa account. I think the flickr
(yahoo) software is easier to use, and flickr is free to join. I will have to
check out the details of how their software works, to see if it c
One drawback to moving to flickr: I don't think it would be possible to move
the entire existing archive on webshots to flickr. I think each member would
have to post their own photos to their own page on flickr, and then join the
arachne group. When the initial upload of the photos to flickr ha
Devon has pointed out to me that arachne could use laceioli on ning as its
photo storage space. But I don't think it would be possible to move the
entire archive of photos, as a block, to laceioli. And arachneans would have
to join laceioli, individually, to post future photos (joining is free).
Sorry to keep coming back at you. But I followed through and checked out
smile's fees page. Only people who have paid their fee will be able to see
any of the photos on their site. If you want to see others' photos and upload
your own fee is $30/yr.If you only want to look at others' photos
Sue
Yes it is possible. But I'm not sure how that would work. I suppose it would
mean joining smile as arachne2003, with our existing password (I suppose
another could be invented), and paying the $30 fee (so we could both view the
existing batch of photos and continue uploading new ones). I'd l
Avital
Thanks for you input. You do understand these things better than most of us.
Who initially created the webshots arachne2003 account? Is the whole thing
perceived by their software as the same person uploading photos from many
different locations and computers around the world? So if Clay
I just came across some new macramé. I had no idea this kind of work was
possible in that technique.
https://plus.google.com/photos/111439440412818161591/albums/57832759499743178
89?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1#photos/111439440412818161591/albums/578327594997431
7889?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1
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Here is an album of a lace day at Zaragosa. The 4th photo is a beautiful
Hinojosa fan.
https://picasaweb.google.com/pilarfra2112/ZARAGOZA071012?feat=content_notific
ation#
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Very very nice!
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I just looked at our smile account. The photos look good. There is a lot of
beautiful stuff there. It is too bad that the work can't be categorized by
who uploaded it.
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Sue experienced difficulties getting onto the SMILE site, but I had just been
on it, login on and off more than once. Is it possible that Sue's
difficulties occurred because the SMILE system detected that arachne was
already logged on, and would not allow a 2nd logon from anothe
Jean
I used the link in Clay's email of Thursday 3:10pm.
It is possible webshots won't delete the old content until their changeover
date arrives, whatever that is.
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I wish you would experiment with flickr. You understand it all better than
the rest of us. I do think flickr offers us the best array of capabilities.
I noticed that there is some kind of way to connect smile to flickr. But I
didn't investigate because I haven't figured that out for my p
Clay
The flickr account looks good. I like the flickr software and have a free
account myself.
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Hello
On laceioli we currently have a question about designing Binche. I certainly
don't know any answers. But I think some of you might be able to offer
suggestions. Please look in and post your ideas. The whole site is public,
which means everyone can see everything. But you have to be a mem
Susan
Thanks for telling us about this. I hadn't heard of that kind before, or at
least, I didn't know it had a name. A few of our members on NEEDLELACETALK
have made some reticella with figures. I don't know if "punto maglie" would
apply.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/reticella-r
Does anyone have an email address for Bridget Cook or Geraldine Stott?
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More of that lace macramé
http://www.ilmiomacrame.com/pizzo-margarete/lavori.html Margareten Spitze --
lace macramé.
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An easier way to find our photos:
Search on flickr arachne2003
Sign in as arachne2003 password Honiton
Save to your favorites. (Then you won't have to sign in again. Every time you
click on that url from your favorites, it will take you to the page where you
have already signed in).
Click on Orga
Avital
If one of us logs on to flickr as arachne2003 and then forgets to sign out,
would that prevent others from signing on to the flickr arachne2003 account?
Flickr is a creation of yahoo, just as picasa is run by google. And I have
discovered that I can be logged on to flickr only as myself, o
This huge album has a lot of interesting lace: many lace fans, a piece of
Valenciennes in process, some drawn thread work.
Lorelei
https://picasaweb.google.com/114418629233714602790/ELVERGER2012XIENCONTREDEBO
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This album is worth looking at. Near the end are some Milanese samplers,
several Withof, and a bobbin collection.
http://www.facebook.com/encajedebolillos/photos_stream
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Ilske and friends
When there are problems with computer instructions, it is often something
simple, like remembering to SAVE. So I've written out the instructions again,
having tested them.
sign in as arachne2003
go to Your Photostream
Click on Organize & Create
Click on Your Sets & Collectio
Here are some more instructions for adding new photos to a set on flickr.
If you want to add a new photo to arachne2003 on flickr, do this:
Sign on as arachne2003
Look near the top of the screen, click on UPLOAD.
Select photos from your computer.
Once the images appear on your screen you can t
Liz
You can choose which of your photos will represent your album. Get into SETS.
Just drag the photo you want onto the spot where the representative icon goes.
Click SAVE.
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I have been going through the photos that Sue just transferred to flickr, and
have put tags on them. Not all of them yet. I'll do some each day until I
get them all.
When I'm not absolutely sure what it is or what to call it, I added nothing.
This piece, I think, is Halas needlelace, but I'm not
Jeri
I am not going to go along with those who define Halas lace as only that which
is made in Hungary, according to the trademark. The piece in question is
clearly a modern version by a lacemaker who is experimenting with the
technique. For any lace I do insist on defining it in terms of the tec
To our members:
I put tags on those photos because most of our members don't understand how
tags work or what the grammar is. I did not label any of those already in
sets, unless they appeared in the large transfer that was done earlier on
Tuesday. Any member
can certainly correct any tags she di
Jean
I can assure you that if I come upon a photo that already has tags on it, I
will not do anything at all with those photos. The photos that Clay
transferred in a large batch arrive on flickr with a long string of numbers as
its name. Individual members who log in and give their photos names a
arachneans
If anybody discovers erroneous tags attached to your photos, this is how to
correct them.
TO REMOVE ERRONEOUS TAGS FROM YOUR PHOTOS:
Click on your photo.
Look in the right hand column for TAGS.
Click on ADD A TAG
Click on the little x to the right of the erroneous tag.
It will ask you
Another question came up about the PHOTOSTREAM and the individual SETS. So I
thought it might be useful to explain this. Some of you already know this,
but some don't.
Any photo that any arachnean adds to arachne2003 will appear among our arachne
photostream. The sets are just ways to organize
Lyn
I think the lace might be crochet. What an interesting idea!
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Alice
An interesting story. What kind of lappet is it? Mechlin? Bedfordshire?
Point ground? Old Flanders?
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I look forward to PICTURES!!! when you get it finished.
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A member of needlelacetalk found this link. I'm passing it on because the
needle lace is really spectacular.
http://www.ombrettapanese.it/
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Gon and all our members
When it is all finished please post photos somewhere, both the lace and the
entire finished collar. I'd love to see it.
I do enjoy seeing photos of everybody's work.
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A pattern for a crocheted evergreen tree:
http://irishcrochettogether.blogspot.com/2012/11/its-beginning-to-look-lot-li
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David and all
That video has sparked a lot of interest in Pag needle lace (the Croatian
island where it is made) since it was published. We have a group for it on
needlelacetalk, and several of our members are interested. But since there is
no instruction book yet, in any language (as far as I kn
A slide show of antique Irish crochet lace:
http://www.irishcrochetlab.com/#!gallery/c1hhr
The website also has photos of modern multi-colored Irish crochet clothing.
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Jeri
I have done several internet searches for info on Pag lace, and have found a
few websites with photos. So far none have turned up with any instruction
books. I have found one recent book, but it appears to be about Pag and Pag
lace, but not about how to make it. We recently found a new memb
Ilske
Thanks for the information about the catalog, with publisher and date. I'll
follow through.
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know about, please tell me.
Annette
Thanks for the information about the OIDFA conference coming up in Slovenia.
That is the best concrete news I've had in some time. One of our members in
Prague may actually be able to go.
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Thanks for the link. A Carrickmacross bonnet and a tamboured one. Also a
Hollie point panel in one. Very interesting.
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Your 3 ships are beautiful, and very complex. Marvelous work.
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Susan
Sue Thompson, in her book INTRODUCTION TO HONITON LACE, does show a aewing
done into a sidebar. And I remember being told that using both the top and
bottom sidebar of any pinhole for sewings would allow you to turn a curve more
fluently. But I don't remember who I heard that from. I took
Gon
Beautiful collar. The pattern looks somewhat like the Dutch laces of the
1600s. Is the design from CAROLUSKANTJES? or some other source?
5 meters -- wow
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design over 20 years ago, but never got around to working a sample.
My eyesight is deteriorating and sewings are becoming difficult to see. So I
think it unlikely I will ever work the design myself.
If you decide to work it or any part of it, please send me a picture!
Happy New Year
Lorelei Halley
Gon
thanks. I really love those old laces. One day I'll try one of them.
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Susan
When starting a leaf at a point, usually one of the pins below the top point
pin will be a little closer to the top. That is the direction to weave in for
your first row. Some you weave to the left, some to the right. Go for the
highest pin first.
Honiton technique was not intended for wo
Robin and Susan
The weaver color dominates simply because there is more of it. Look here for
an example.
http://lynxlace.com/images/r29o.jpg Tensioning doesn't have anything to do
with it.
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If you look at the photo in the link I gave you will see how the weaver
color affects the appearance of each diamond or lozenge in cloth stitch.
Even in half stitch, the weaver color, if consistent, dominates the color of
the section.
http://lynxlace.com/images/17BLA8.JPG
http://lynxlace.
Jeri
The lace brooch backer is a good idea.
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I have just posted many photos of a Duchesse edging from my collection on
laceioli
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/forum/topics/how-many-l
acemakers-can-you-find?xg_source=activity
What is interesting about the piece is that I think I can detect 3 or 4
different lacemakers. N
For those who love crewel embroidery (I do realize this is not lace),
apparently there are different periods of crewel embroidery. Look at the
bottom half of this blog post:
http://stitchingidyllic.blogspot.ca/
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Susan
Thanks for that link. Many very good examples of several kinds of bobbin
lace. We see far too little really good Honiton online.
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I first saw bobbinlace in a demo in 1965. It took me until 1973 before I met
another person who knew what it was. She gave me Doris Southard's address.
It was only in 1981 that I started seriously, with her book.
Snail mail only,no internet, no books in the library. Advertisements in the
IOLI bu
Sof
thanks for those links. Truly spectacular lace. Varenne's contemporary
designs use simple stitches, but the result is amazing.
Herve's Duchesse is perfect! (with lots of detail shots)..
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Regarding cutting away the tulle: it was often done only behind the fancy
fillings, so that the filling would be visible. No need to cut behind
clothwork or dense areas.
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Antje explained it, but let me add some detail.
You have 2 ways to add content to flickr: 1. as Janice Blair2. as
arachne2003
If you sign on as Janice Blair flickr won't let you add anything to
arachne2003. So you have to sign out as Janice Blair.
Then you have to sign in as arachne
Clay is right, there are a lot of videos on youtube showing basic bobbin lace.
Tatman has several posted on his website, and also on laceioli.
http://laceioli.ning.com/video
Also Laurie Waters has collected playlists full of videos on bobbin lace
technique. The problem is that there are almost to
A collection of Irish crochet motifs by a group of people associated with the
Ravelry Irish crochet group. They are impressive.
http://irishcrochettogether.blogspot.com/2013/02/a-true-collaboration.html
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Stevie
Your question requires a long answer. Partly there is a problem of what the
terms mean When modern lacemakers think of "Flanders" lace they usually think
of the lace Ilske described in her email: a straight lace with 5 hole ground,
gimp surrounds the cloth stitch motifs, 2 pairs enter the
A whole bunch of Pag needle lace photos has just been posted on
needlelacetalk. You might like to see:
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo
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That tape lace is what we call "mixed tape lace", meaning that the tape is
machine made. You can see how it is folded when it changes direction. Needle
lace stitches would be worked into the empty spaces between the tape sections
to hold it together. This is a messy example. Tape lace ca
Hello
Jeri Ames has just written and put together a fantastic article on a set of 12
needle lace mats, with a table runner, all in needlelace. And each mat is
different. Each one has an image of the chateau in fine thread in the center.
And each one has foliage in thicker thread, outside the buil
Jeri Ames has just posted an article about some fantastic needle lace, with
many many wonderful photos on laceioli. The detail is good enough to identify
the stitches used.
http://laceioli.ning.com/forum/topics/french-chateau-laces-under-construction
?xg_source=activity
I'm posting this a 2nd time
I like Tamara's version as is. The spider and the @ symbol are perfect.
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Debora
You have had several answers to your question. But I would like to list
several places where you can get more help.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/beginners
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/beginners/forum/topics/needle-lace-tutor
ial-plain
http://lynxlace.com/needlelaceintroduc
Debora
Several have already answered your questions. But I am posting links to some
places with photos and diagrams showing these issues.
http://lynxlace.com/learningneedlelace.html
http://lynxlace.com/needlelaceintroduction.html
http://lynxlace.com/needlelacetutorial.html
http://needlelacetalk
Clay: your empty pillows are crying, feeling neglected and unloved.
I agree with Nancy: I'd love to see more early Flemish lace.
Pottenkant? Paris lace? The forgotten sisters.
I agree with Maureen: bobbin lace alone can occupy several lifetimes. Add
needlelace and you have several centuries.
Nathalie
There are 2 differences between Tenerife and nanduti lace.
1. Nanduti creates little odd shaped bits to fit between the main motifs.
Diamonds with curved sites, triangles, scallops along the outer perimeter.
Look here for tenerife:
http://www.rendasol.org.br/proposta-es.php
2. The workin
This album has a lot of marvelous bobbin lace. Worth looking at.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102574002150671233259/albums/57290014849021127
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Nancy: my commiserations. One of my cats did that once. I got home from
work and found my pillow with spangled bobbins upside down on the floor, 2
broken bobbins. One was my only bone one. Time elapsed from the disaster
meant both cats were puzzled about why I was yelling and waving my arms
ar
A lace day in Spain, today. Lots of lace, including some filet lacis.
https://picasaweb.google.com/116815928698521654052/MIERES64201302?feat=conten
t_notification#
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Don't forget to check out Devon's blog of the symposium in Pavia.
http://laceioli.ning.com/profiles/blogs/live-blogging-the-young-lace-makers-s
ymposium-doily-free-zone
Lorelei
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That certainly does look like reticella. The painter did an amazing job of
depicting the lace. It almost looks photographic. One could actually copy
the lace. But if you plan to make a ruff, plan on spending a lifetime to
finish it!The central part could be either reticello worked as embroi
One more thing I could say. At that time period Genoa was making bobbin lace,
similar in style to reticello. And some of those leaf shapes and triangles in
the painting seem to have 3 raised ridges in them, not 2. For needlelace you
would expect 2 ridges. But for bobbin lace one would expect 3
Loren
Can you give us a link where we can find a picture of spanier arbeit? I
haven't heard that name before. There are many styles of lace and many kinds
of lace making practiced in Spain.
Although I do recall some discussion with Avital about a kind of metallic
lace.
I found it!
Go to the arach
Sue Hottel's question about terminology is interesting. We have had
discussions about this on NEEDLELACETALK. There are 2 parts to the problem, I
think.
First part is what names does the general public use when referring to the
work. Remembering that the general public doesn't understand anythi
Beth
Looking at the diagram and the photo, I think Kenn uses WS to mean cross twist
cross. (Also known as cloth stitch or linen stitch.)
Lorelei
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