Does anyone know if Kenn Van Dieren is still in business? He has not
answered his email for a while.
Thanks,Alice in Oregon
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I joined just after the first anniversary. That's when I got my computer, and
the first thing I typed in was 'lace'. I learned so much from the List.
I just finished a Binche project from a class I took about 15 years ago.Â
When I pulled it off the shelf, it was 3/4 done so I've been working on
I was one of those people in 1998 at the Arachne 98 Conference who saw the
lacemaking machines. They had at least one of the original style of
machines, and demonstrated how it was worked by hand and foot.
A few years ago I was a featured artist at fiber show, and had to give a half
hour talk
I'm looking for advice. I hope there's someone on the List who has done
this.
My friend is just finishing the lace for a jacket. She's trying to figure
out the best way to line it when it's done. The lace sections do contract a
bit when the lace is off the pins so the pricking is a bit
The message for help from Margaret Palen is a scam. Her computer was
recently hacked.
Lace content --- I'm working on piece #11 out of 12 needed for my lamp
shade cover. There's hope that I will see the project done in the next
month. Now I have to choose what to work on next.
Alice in
I suggest checking the rules of the contest you are interested in entering.Â
Some do not want the work mounted. They want to be able to see both sides of
the work. Judges have to follow the rules in effect even if they don't like
the rules.
I think glue on a contest item would make a judge
Hungarian. See"The Art of Lace-making in Hungary" by Maria Csernyanszky,
Corvina Press,1962. Budapest.Pictures starting page 51. Details starting
page 53. "Lace with Noue (looped) Ornamentation.
According to the book, this type of lace may be traced to Flanders, Brussels,
and then centered
I had my notes on the Mat all written up, and ... poof.gone. I'll try to
recap it.
Bobbins. The story I heard was 500 bobbins. I wound 270 pair (540). I used
them all, since they were wound. Some more than once. I like fairly solid
cloth stitch so added in lots and had to throw them
I just wrote a long answer to the questions on the Mat, and then hit a wrong
button and the whole thing was deleted. Whomever it was that wanted advice,
please write me. Your name and email are gone, as well as my answer.
Alice in Oregon
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Yes, Happy Anniversary to Arachne. Thanks, Liz, for starting it and
maintaining it all these years.
Arachne had just celebrated it's 1st anniversary when I joined, so it's been 24
years for me. Doesn't seem like it's been that long. I was just a beginner at
lace when I joined, and credit
When the student is holding the bobbin and winding the thread on, is the
thread winding clockwise or counterclockwise?
Actually, I think I can explain a hitch so it works either way with either
hand.
When the bobbin is wound, lay the thumb along side the thread on the bobbin.
Continue winding
Ignore any requests for help with my name on it. The hackers are going
through my address list again. They got me several months ago but evidently
saved the list.
Lace-wise, I have been trying to get signed up for OIDFA next year. Payment
is to be made only by bank transfer. My bank is
How are you? I need a favor from you.
Alice
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The webpage of the Swedish Lace Guild is http://www.svenskaspetsar.se .  I
typed it wrong.
Alice
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To help plan my trip to Europe next year, and the OIDFA Congress, I've been
looking for lace events and lace museums. So far I have Rauma, Finland,
Vadstena, Sweden, and Tonder, Denmark on my list.
1. Do you know of another place in Scandinavia with lace interest?
2. How do I contact someone in
What a wonderful report! It's the first report the rest of us received. I
really wanted to attend this conference.
Let's have some more reports, please.Â
Alice in Oregon -- where it's warm but not too hot. Nice weather for county
fair.
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 10:48:17 AM PDT,
While doing travel research on the web, I found that Rauma, Finland, has a
Lace Week that's really nine days long. This year it starts tomorrow (July
20) and goes until July 28. There are lace displays in many places with
people demo-ing, plus many other events.
If this is held the same time
The early lace machines tried to replicate known lace styles. Some styles they
could do partially but they had to have some work done by hand. For example,
gimp and picots.
If a lace style had a gimp outline on the motifs, this would be sewn in by hand
with a needle. If the lace style
I am planning to attend OIDFA next year in Estonia. I would like to travel for
a month ahead of the congress and am searching out lace sites in the countries
on my list. I plan to visit Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland and
Austria. However, I can't find any lace-related
I have heard of two methods of handling an off-site guild library, so far.
1. Each member has a list of guild books. When they want one, they notify
the librarian to bring that book to the next meeting. If a person wants to
browse, they must go to the librarians home.
2. The librarian
I, also, did not get the original post but only the answer. I had been
wondering about posts, also. There were a bunch of them for a bit, then
nothing.
Oregon varies from hot, to cloudy and damp. We are to have two cooler days,
then clear for the 4th and fireworks. I don't go to the local
The number of wraps in Lassen stitches would logically depend on the size of
the original thread, the type of stitches used, and the size of the wrapping
thread. The idea is to fill each little section of the stitches with
wrapping. Each section needs filled, but not overfilled. If it takes
It's lovely. Hankies used to be much larger than they are today. It could
have been a wedding hanky. It took a lot of work to make, and should be for
a special occasion. I can believe it to be wedding hanky but I have no proof
of it.
Alice in Oregon
On Sunday, June 23, 2019, 10:22:25
The overlapped section will not fray. With every millimeter of the lace
threads tightly wrapped, there's no way any of the threads can move. If a
thread gets cut, then it would loosen, but that's an extreme case. Normal use
will not loosen it.
The first time you do it, it is a bit scary to
Several years ago when I was learning about Lassen, I understood it to be a
long-used method of connecting lace. Back in the days when dresses were long
and full, it took many yards of lace to trim one skirt or dress, especially if
several rows were used. This lace was made by many people to
I joined Arachne just after the first anniversary. My husband set up a
computer for me, sat me down, and said "Type something". I typed 'Bobbin
lace', Arachne was the first thing that popped up, and the rest is history. I
had been making lace only a couple years and learned so very much from
The new OIDFA Bulletin tells about a lace festival in Parnu in July each year,
but doesn't give any dates. Does anyone know if the dates of this festival in
July 2020 will be close enough to the OIDFA Congress (the first of August) for
someone to attend both?
I hope to attend the Congress and
The plexiglas winder is very compact and good for transporting to classes, etc.
It's designed for Midlands bobbins but has an adapter for continentals.
Mine worked very well for many years -- but then the elastic bands that
provide the tension wore out. Replacing them with the right size
I haven't seen the pictures you refer to but my antique Malmsbury bobbins are
not tapered. They are straight cylinders, about 3/8 inch or less thick,
about 4 inches long, with a thread area cutout about 1/2 inch long. The
bobbins are mostly plain but may have a groove or two, or many,
Thanks for all the concern.  Some people responded to the request, and
found out that they were to buy a card, take a picture of it and send it with
the pin number from the back of the card. That's how the hacker would be
able to cash in the card. As far as I know at this time, no one
Sorry, friends. My computer email was hacked. I am NOT traveling and NOT
trying to get money for a nephew. Don't reply to the scam message. Just
delete.
I'm sorry it went out on the List.Â
Lace-wise, I'm looking forward to meeting David Collier next week.
Alice in Oregon
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How are you? I need a favor from you.Â
I need to get an Gamestop Gift Card for my Nephew, Its his birthday and i
totally forgot. i can't get this for him right now because I'm currently
traveling.Can you kindly help me get it from any store around you? I'll pay
back as soon as i am back. Kindly
How are you? I need a favor from you.Â
I need to get an Gamestop Gift Card for my Nephew, Its his birthday and i
totally forgot. i can't get this for him right now because I'm currently
traveling.Can you kindly help me get it from any store around you? I'll pay
back as soon as i am back. Kindly
Liz...and anyone else who has registered for IOLI this year,
The normal time schedule is for the teachers to have notification of whether or
not their classes are a 'go' by April 15. Once the classes are determined,
then the students should receive their confirmation letters with class info,
In the Torchon for Teachers class, we learned it this way.
Torchon GroundCT p CT
Dieppe GroundCT p CTT
Honeycomb Ground CTT p CTT
Cord Ground CTTT p CTTT
Brussels Ground CTCT p CTCT
I'm sure that each of these has other names since lace was made in so many
countries with
I attended a class one time where we were told we needed a horseshoe type tool.
We had not been told in advance. Some of the people made a quick purchase the
first evening of some 1/4 inch plastic tubing and some pipecleaners.Cut
10-12 inches of tubing and 2-3 inches of pipecleaner. Use
Nice find, Mark.
I agree with the first one -- Beds. However the second one is not Torchon.
Torchon is worked on a 45 degree grid foundation.
Since it looks like the same scale and thread as the first one, it could be a
Beds variation.I know I've seen some similar patterns in some of
Just type Acid Free Boxes in your search engine and up will come lots of places
to get them. You should be able to find something in your country. They cost
a bit but should be sturdy.
I'm not an expert, but here's some things I've been learning about storing
things.
A suggestionWrap
Unbelievable1000 Arachnians,and no postings? The northern half must be
frozen and the southern half lethargic from the heat. Surely someone is still
awake and making lace. The holiday season when postings usually slow down is
now over.
What lace have you recently
I think it might be in the next guild newsletter, which will be on line. When
it shows up, I'll let you all know.
For those who have the book Knipling 4, it's on page 76.
Alice
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Alice, share please, how about showing us over the pond your collar, for
those who
But I love chocolate...can someone describe them in a manner that an
American can understand (biscuit is cookie here...so I figure they are a
cookie?
Years ago -- maybe 10 or 12 -- a secret pal in Australia sent me a package. DH
and I decided that they main difference between what we had
I just received news of the passing of Russell Groff ... owner of former Robin
and Russ Handweavers who supported lacemaking along with his weaving. He
printed or reprinted many books of lacemaking, and provided a place for our
lacemaking group to meet for many years. Here is his story
My friends around here call them 'Power Surges'.
Alice in Oregon
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Another possibility with clear glass baubles is to paint the inside the color
of your choice. Just remove the top, squirt in some paint and swirl it around
until the glass is coated. Let drain and dry. If acrylic paint is used, it
dries very fast.
Alice in Oregon - cold and wet but no snow
Merry Christmas to those who celebrate the day. Seasons Greetings to all.
It will be a cold but clear holiday here in Oregon. Much nicer than the 18
inches of snow we had last year. Our lacemakers luncheon won't have to be
canceled this year. It's the day after Christmas.
I got bobbins
Here is a personal viewpoint.
Don't be afraid to try a different kind of lace. What one person claims is
'hard' goes along just fine for another person. People have been known to not
try something because it's been labeled 'hard' by someone else. Keep an open
mind. You are probably
If your wire gimp is crinkling, then I suggest that it's too fine a wire for
the project. Your wire should bend readily but hold it's shape once it is put
in place. In the USA, the craft shops carry a package of colored wires for
general craft use and this wire works very well in lace
This sounds intriguing... and very timely. Is there a place on the web where
we can see it? I am interested.
Alice in Oregon
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Hi Vickie,
There are probably books written on your questions. The general answer I would
give is: There are many ways to end lace threads and it depends on the type of
lace and the location within the lace which method is used.
Here are some answers as I see them.
In Torchon hanky edges,
Someone commented that they were shown 8 different ways to make a tally. I
have seen several, though not eight. This variation in the video was new to me.
I learned to make tallies with midland bobbins. It's very possible, though
perhaps not the best for the method in the video. I never
Your thoughts are correct. It is machine made lace. Handmade lace names are
often applied to the machine versions. The seller says very littlejust
puts up lots of pictures so you can decide for yourself. He uses all the words
he can think of to attract attention to the title. However,
I'll give a try on this.
First, the lace shawl on eBay had a strip of machine made picots (little loops)
sewn on the edges to imitate the picots on handmade lace that are an extension
of the edge stitches. Depending on the lace, the handmade loops can be made
with one thread or with two
Thank you so much for the replies on Knipling 4 questions. My questions about
a pattern have been answered.
Thank you to Tania, and the others who offered to try.
I now have a project to set up as soon as I locate the right size threads.
Alice in Oregon -- on a very warm day
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I would like to talk to someone with the 1989 book Knipling 4 by Karen 'Trend
Nissen, and who can translate it. I have questions about one of the patterns.
Thank you,
Alice in Oregon
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This is a story byDavid McClure from the Dallas News Community
Opinionpage.
$5.37. That's what the kidbehind the counter at Taco Bueno said to
me. I dug into my pocket andpulled out some lint and two dimes and
something that used to be a Jolly
Hi Dona,
There's a big world of threads to learn about, and many variations in measuring.
Each variety of thread has it's own numbering system. Generally, when listed
as xx/y the first number is the size of one ply and the second number is the
number of plies used.
Fresia 60/2 and 60/3 would
I meet with three lace groups. One group meets in a Community Center run by
the Parks and Recreation department of the city. This group has two bookcases
on wheels with doors and locks which contain the guild library. We are
permitted to leave these in a back room during the month between
In all my years growing up and living in the 'west', there has been no mention
of the early settlers making lace other than crochet and tattingand that
was to decorate the household items or perhaps a girl's clothing.
There was some lace in the original states along the eastern
As requested, I'm writing again. In case you missed the beginningmy DH put
a can of gas (petrol) in my car on top of my lace display things, and it
spilled. 15 pieces of my lace got spilled on as well as the board itself (foam
core) that was trashed. Also my car trunk floor map. (I
I would urge you to evaluate the pillow carefully before spending time and
money on a 'fix'. Foam pillows are relatively inexpensive.
There is a difference in various polystyrene pillows. The ones I get in the
USA made of ethafoam last a long time. I'm still using ones I got 15 years ago
-- overcast, and supposed to rain, so I can't leave the car
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I'm very annoyed at my DH. He put a gas can in my car trunk, with my lace
stuff. It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board, as well as on the
carpet of my new car.
The display board is ruined...soaked. I pulled the lace pieces off if
immediately, but about 1/3 of them smelled. I
-- overcast, and supposed to rain, so I can't leave the car
windows open today.
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An equally interesting question would be, Are there any lace shops where lace
supplies may be obtained in the US at all, or even in Canada?
There's the Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, California. It's mainly museum but does
carry some lace supplies and pieces of lace for
The question was asked What is your favourite lace pattern out of the ones
you have worked, (whether your own design or one that has been published) and
which pattern/type of lace have you found most challenging?
I had to think about this a bit. I've dabbled in a wide variety of lace
As Bev said, check the webpage of the airline(s) you are traveling on. Most of
them allow knitting these days, but some do restrict it to plastic or wood
needles, not metal. On the chance that some inspector got fussy and refused to
let you have them, take old ones that you can lose without
What a week of making lace! 27 hours of class, officially. Many spent extra
hours at their projects, also.
I was in the Binche class. It was the quietest class I've even been in. The
concentration level was off the scale! One lady was required to stand up and
move every so often, so she
Recently bobbin winding was mentioned, and I think I remember a comment about
thread not being very neat when wound using a string to turn the bobbin.
For newer bobbin lacemakers, the thread on a bobbin is not supposed to be wound
neatly with the threads next to each other. The thread should
I received smelly books a couple times. I didn't want the smell in my house.
Once I put it on the front porch, fanned open, and left it for several weeks.
Another, during bad weather, I put in the attic, opened, and left for a long
time. I didn't bring either into the main house until the
It sounds like the base is not really strong. OK -- ignore it. Use it as a
general support. Get a piece of wide elastic and make a 'belt' that encircles
all the blocks. Make it firm elastic and it will hold the blocks together.
Yet, you can still stretch it or remove it to rearrange blocks
When I watched the video of children making lace, I noticed another video
titled Oosterpoort in het teken van kantklossen. Since I knew that the OIDFA
congress had been in that building, I clicked on the videoand found the
OIDFA congress. It's not in English so I don't know what was said,
My DH doesn't concern himself with my tools. I don't say anything about his
automotive repair tools.G No need to worry about talking in my sleep.
But the point is -- An inventory of tools is needed for insurance purposes. It
can just be pictures of groups of bobbins laid out on the bed or
As others have said, there are plain bobbins and decorated bobbins. The plain,
basic bobbin of inexpensive wood can be fairly low priced in quantities of 100.
My favorite continental bobbin costs me about 65-70 cents (USA) each when I
buy 100 of them on special. (I watch for them to come up
Just a happy customer...all disclaimers made,,,
My favorite bobbin comes from the company called Lacemaking Circle in
California.
http://www.lacemaking.com/LacemakingCircle.htm
They don't have every kind of bobbin, but if they have what you want, the price
is probably good. They mark two or
Bobbins the same weight? Well, not necessarily. I have met people who
required their bobbins to weigh the very same on a pillow. To the milligram.
Butthat's a bit compulsive. I would say...lacemaking is more efficient if
the bobbins on a project are similar in size and weight. The
Just wanted to say that I got one student in the class at the art gallery. We
had just cancelled the class when one lady said she wanted to take it, so I
un-cancelled it. It's a start!
Alice in Oregon
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In my upbringing, sky blue pink was an imaginary or nonsense color. The
parents used the term when the kids' questions either became annoying or if it
was to be a surprise/secret and the parents weren't going to give an
informative answer. When Dad started giving nonsense answers, we knew it
I was raised hearing 'sky blue pink' from my parents and grandparents, so the
expression crossed the pond. I live in the far west of the USA. I have no
English ancestors but they picked it up from somewhere.
Alice in Oregon -- where my black cat just caught two mice in the basement and
I noticed one of the items for sale was fabric made with this silk and cotton.
In light of our recent discussion on fibers, this fabric could have a problem
when washed. The spun silk had no size notation. I think more details are
needed to entice buyers.
I also noticed that no prices are
There's a lovely eye-candy cloth on eBay. Number 290315744166.
They have changed the page layout again... and I'm not happy. The pictures are
smaller so the lace doesn't show as well. It's only the picture at the top of
the page, and click on very tiny pictures underneath it but no
I found out that eBay must have been partially down when I was browsing. Now
there's better pictures and information on all the items I was looking at last
night. And the pages look more normal.
The Cantu lace is NOT Cantu. It has bobbin trails/outlines and decorative
figures, but the
DMC Cordonnet is a six strand thread, tightly twisted. They take two stands
and twist 'S' direction, then take three of these double strands and twist them
together the 'Z' direction. It's starts with a fine thread and it takes six
strands to match the Cantu 40 three strands.. However, the
An additional comment. Pool noodle would make a good inner section of a
larger roller. If it has enough wool rolled around it (an inch or more) to
contain the pins, it would last a long time. It's the pin holes that break it
down.
The roller I had to replace had no wrappings except the
Here's my two bits again, contrary to the traditional view.The color of
thread usually used and the color of the pillow are not related. The threads
will lie on the pricking and then on the work cloth that's under the bobbins.
The color of pricking needs to contrast with the threads.
Lace is worked in the central area of a round cookie pillow, no matter how you
turn it around. If doesn't really matter whether you keep the same edge toward
yourself or not. When I repeat a pattern, I move the pricking a tiny bit
before starting again.
There is one fact that you need to be
Yes, your cat would dump your pillow off a table that sizemine did. I was
using a TV tray table, about the same size as a Tablemate and the pillow
extended beyond the table. My cat tried to use it as a stepping stone to the
cat tower. He got yelled at, but my pillow was still upside
I am short, and have a problem working on the far side of a large pillow. I
don't have a large block pillow so have done a couple large, weird projects on
a 24 cookie pillow, making temporary extensions at the edges and stretching to
reach the far side.
For a straight lace, I really like my
You can teach from an existing book if each student has a copy of it. This is
done in my sewing organization in some classes. This group is very conscience
of pattern copyrights, and the class supply list will have the name of the
book. The teacher will have a supply of them to sell to the
I'm not Clay, but you brought up a bunch of memories for me. I grew up in that
era but had conservative parents. I was never allowed a poodle skirt because
it was impractical.
Poodle Skirt -- made of a full circle of felt and decorated with a large felt
poodle.
Saddle Shoes -- shoes that
I had several replies to my comments about the opportunity to display lace for
sale in a gallery. I was very gently reminded of something I had forgotten. I
thought I should mention it for the benefit of all on our List.
It is not legal to sell lace made from a copyrighted pattern without the
Thanks for the thought. but my schedule is too tight in the two weeks I
have before the class starts to take on anything else, even trying to get lace
from other sources. I'll try to get some things up within the next 3 months,
and see if there is any interest. If there is, then
A baby rattle? It says the rings move freely. They might make a noise.
Definitely not a lace bobbin.
On another subject.The art gallery where I might be teaching a class in a
few weeks wants some of my lace to sell, or at least to display with a price on
it. That gives me three
I have two ideas for the finished seam.
The easiest would have a narrow seam. Stitch the two pieces of lace at the
seam line. On the seam allowances, stitch across 2-3 times with a
narrow-medium zigzag stitch to anchor all the threads together. Trim at about
1/4 inch. Fold in half of the
Good work! That was my first 'large' piece of lace. I had been making lace
about 6 months when I started it, and it took me 2 1/2 years. I wanted it for
a ruffled collar, so made a curved start. I went around the circle 3-4 times
(if I remember correctly) to get the length I wanted. At the
For most laces, I use about 3 to 4 inches. That reasonably fits on a 20 inch
pillow (the middle 4 inches has the pattern, and that leaves about 8 inches on
the apron for a 4 inch bobbin and a 4 inch leash.)
However... that is NOT a law. Some people prefer working with a shorter leash,
and
Ruusuja Nyplaten (Roses in Bobbin Lace) by Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti has been a
favorite book of mine. Eeva-Liisa is a designer from Finland. She has a style
of her own. Skills needed are basic Torchon and an open mind. In some of her
patterns, the thread pathways sometimes do not follow
I seem to remember from long past that someone posted a poem about striver pins
and how to use them. Is this part of my imagination or was such a poem on our
List? Does anyone have one?
For newbies who've never heard of a Striver Pin, it's a regular small pin that
has some tiny beads on it
I joined May 24, 1996. I remember because it was known on the list as Black
Friday. Majordomo crashed.When I got signed on, it was back up but all the
messages for 3 days were What happened? It was several days before
conversation got back to lace topics so I could see what the List was
In 19th century USA, pins were used as an informal monetary unit. Remember
stories like Tom Sawyer... admission to the performance the kids gave was a
pin (or two). Back then our coin money was worth something, and for values
less than a penny they used pins. I don't remember how many pins
Yes... the 12th of April, 1995, is the day Arachne came on line. Liz Reynolds
is the creator (and owner) of the Lace List. Thanks so much, Liz, for thinking
of this and having the knowledge and access to a computer that could handle the
List. Even though Liz is no longer a regular
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