Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Humphries
Wasn’t aware the bbc did broadband. Cool. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef Sent: 09 June 2011 21:50 To: 'LEEDSLIST' Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider you are joking aren't you Steve, do you

Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread Graham White
Oi, I don't pay a penny to Rupert Murdoch - broadband, telly and phone all in one package from Virgin.  If I want to watch footie on Sky much prefer to go down the pub! Graham White --- On Thu, 9/6/11, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: From: Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
Hard to disagree with Papa Smurf on this onewho watched the Alan Sugar documentary the other week on Football finances? The players (and silly chairmen acquiescing) are sucking the clubs dry and it is simply not realistic and if it were any other business etc they'd be closed down as soon as.

Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
Whoever is paying 90 quid a month - WTF x 1000!! Jeeez man, there must be a better deal than that somewhere! As an employee of Vodafone I get a 50% discount, but it's €15 for ADSL (6Mbs, and it really is 6Mbs) + telephone (which is really a mobile but with a fixed number prefix). For normal

Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread Kitching, Mark
You all realise Murdoch doesn't own Sky don't you? Ernot quite yet anyway ;) -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham White Sent: 10 June 2011 09:01 To: Nicholas Armit; Chris Briggs Cc: LEEDSLIST Subject: Re:

Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread Tim Leslie
Quick tip: Ring Sky, tell them you love the service but due to the current climate can't afford it and will sadly have to cancel ... Usually the results are very cost effective!!! ;-) You all realise Murdoch doesn't own Sky don't you? No of course not, they are totally independent of their

Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread Errand Fivefold
One other thing about Sky, you have to use the router they provide.  If you want something a little better, there's a bit of jiggery-pokery required to get an alternative router working. Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'-- --- On Fri, 10/6/11, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
Noone said anything about 'caving in' to anyone's demands. Say the agent was at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done between 5-8k. Simply saying take our starting offer or fck off is a ridiculous state of affairs. As for journeymen - both players have been with

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Lee Jones
I dont know what the current going rate is in the Championship, but I would have thought that for a top Championship club (which we are aspiring to be next season) £8-10k a week isn't over the odds is it? Im not saying I agree with it, 8000 a week is an obscene sum of money, but it doesn't sound

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
Exactly. It's a shite state of affairs that footballers command such cash but that's the law of the market. If ken doesn't like it, he should go back to running a fcking concrete business so he can pay his staff minimum wage and expect them to be grateful. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2011,

Re: [LU] NON LU: broadband provider

2011-06-10 Thread Eric B
I ve had enough already of proprietary solutions being an apple customer at the moment. I try to not give my money to that asshxxx rupert M. its pretty dam hard though. In the past I ve had good results using smaller companies (internode in australia, xs4all in holland), so plusnet looks like an

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Eric B
agree with this: Say the agent was at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done between 5-8k. Simply saying take our starting offer or fck off is a ridiculous state of affairs In business you never tell anyone to Fxxx off. The agent was probably just positioning

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
That's the club's official policy on negotiating contracts Eric. Seriously. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2011, at 14:39, Eric B barl...@gmail.com wrote: agree with this: Say the agent was at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done between 5-8k. Simply

[LU] iphone / ipad apps

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Hart
I have recently found a couple of nice free apps listers might be interested in. Minster FM app. Listen to Minster from anywhere. It's Minster who partnered with the Bates Broadcasting Corporation to broadcast our match commentaries last season so this could be useful if that agreement is

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Eric B
well its not professional. I think we can agree on that? On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote: That's the club's official policy on negotiating contracts Eric. Seriously. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2011, at 14:39, Eric B barl...@gmail.com wrote:

[LU] Johnson etc.

2011-06-10 Thread Terry Emmott
Just for the record, whichever player it was was on £4000, the club offered £7000 which is almost double the current salary and only when the agent asked for £11000, almost treble, was he told to get stuffed. Is anybody on the list going to double their salary this year, let alone treble it?

Re: [LU] Johnson etc.

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
I've had 60% before (60% of fck all). How many folk on the list are professional footballers? Terry, no doubt what you and I earn is a fortune to someone in Burkino Faso or wherever. It's all relative. If he couldn't get such a big rise elsewhere, he wouldn't ask for it. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [LU] Johnson etc.

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Tuffey
Geez, neither Kilkenny or Johnson were able to help guide us to the promised land so I don't understand why some people are acting like we're losing Messi because we don't want to pay the wages or fees. I expect their replacements to be an improvement and come December or so we can all assess

Re: [LU] Johnson etc.

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
Hope you're right mate but fear you're not. You only have to read what the chairman is saying about transfers!! Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2011, at 16:15, Mark Tuffey wiscole...@hotmail.com wrote: Geez, neither Kilkenny or Johnson were able to help guide us to the promised land so I

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread MarkBursa
Noone said anything about 'caving in' to anyone's demands. Say the agent was at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done between 5-8k. Simply saying take our starting offer or fck off is a ridiculous state of affairs. The player was on £4k. We offered £7k.

Re: [LU] Johnson etc.

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Austin
Apropos of nothing, of all our players who had 20 shots or more, accuracy-wise Kilkenny was 7th and Johnson 9th out of 9. In Norwich's team, Johnson would have come 8th out of 8. - SI On 10/06/2011 16:15, Mark Tuffey wrote: Geez, neither Kilkenny or Johnson were able to help guide us to the

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2011, at 17:19, markbu...@aol.com wrote: Noone said anything about 'caving in' to anyone's demands. Say the agent was at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done between 5-8k. Simply saying take our starting offer or fck off

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Humphries
Of course it is negotiating. First of all, anyone with any negotiating credentials will tell you that you always have a walk away figure... an absolute level beyond which you will not go. 'Negotiating' is all about getting a deal either to suit yourself regardless of the other party

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Richard Naef
what you all seem to forget is that johnson and kilkenny will very likely get a fat signing on fee from the clubs that sign them, something that leeds were (quire rightly) unlikely to offer them and that means the cnuts will be laffing all the way to the bank, although give Johnsons inability to

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Hart
Of course another scenario is that one or both parties had no intention of making a deal and priced themselves out of it. I wouldn't put it past us to offer less than the going rate if we thought we could do better elsewhere or if the manager just doesn't rate the player, and I certainly wouldn't

Re: [LU] Johnson, Kilkenny and the market rate

2011-06-10 Thread Ian Murray
Bannan is quality. He'll never sign for us though, he came to play and bench warmed so that that pile of shit Livermore could start. I'm an SG fan but he got that massively, massively wrong. Re Kilkenny - clearly SG wanted to re-sign him, or why the offer at all? He's let the players go he