I’m still here, but at the moment I can’t do any woodworking.
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Subject: RE: ROLL CALL!!!
Tim K is still around and
I’m still here.
From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: ROLL CALL!!!
Hey David glad you are on the mend. I got one of those chest zippers back in
2003. Not a problem since.
I would be interested. How many $’s?
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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 5:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Requested photos
Legacy operational videos
If anyone is interested I have two
If you scan or photograph some of the mill, I might already have a copy. If you
turn to the last section of the manual, does it have instructions for about six
to ten items?
Tim
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Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 4:15
I have the plastic gears but not the whole machine.
If you would like to see one, go to https://ornamentalmills.com/history/ It’s
about half way down.
Tim
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Here's a link to all of the Ornamental News.
https://ornamentalmills.com/omnews/index.html
Please do not distribute them outside this group.
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At this moment, it appears to be a browser issue. I can’t get to the site using
firefox. There is no problem when using chrome. Can anyone verify this?
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Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the
aluminum holder. They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.
There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.
Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos
This will help you. https://ornamentalmills.com/history/
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 7:42 AM
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Subject: Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Horizontal and Vertical Bench Vises
If
Looks good. Nice way to drive only the spindle.
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Subject: spindle motor
Finished my spindle motor today first test run
Did you make a custom z axis? In the photo I see some ballscrew thread, am I
right?
From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question to all?
It’s the Green Jog button. I know
I have one I can sell you. Reach me at artmarb...@comcast.net.
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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 9:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Question to all?
John here, I
Hello All,
I’ve been absent for this entire subject. It seems when either Curt or Myself
take a leave of the list, things finally get exciting. So I’m back and can
answer the big questions. Yes there was a map that allowed members to post as
much information that I would allow with a
Hi Mac,
I made those legs, they came with two rods that support the inner rails while
adjusting the bed height. You just insert the rod in the front hole of choice
and slide it in the back hole. Do this for both sides, loosen the bed rails,
drop the bed on the supports and tighten all the
No router, but it has the gearmotor and speed control and some gears and index
plates. Maybe you could convince him to part it out and recycle the rest?
There is a obo on the listing so who knows. Asking is free
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283922668307?ul_noapp=true
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That is really a nice looking portable solution!
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Subject: RE: Box making
Here is an old video of the triton work center
Thanks for the input. Does your 1200 have the roller bearings on the leadscrew?
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On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Want to put a
Dirt cheap example.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-ME-8108-Momentary-Self-reset-Limit-Switch-Roller-Lever-CNC-Mill-Plasma-IP65/402283547370?hash=item5da9f7caea:g:lwAAAOSwBhJe1zwG
Not an endorsement.
From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:08 PM
Most industrial style limit switches offer both nc/no (normally closed/normally
open). Legacy used normally closed. They broke the power to the motor. The over
ride switch closed the connection to the motor so you could switch the
direction of the motor and back off the limit switch.
Ebay
Hi Arkady,
Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see
if it will work for you
I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the
Model 900 that
Hi John,
I don’t have any drawings from Legacy.
-Tim
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:29 PM
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Subject: Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks
>From the legacy
The digital scale on the z-axis?
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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 4:20 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Height gauge
Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade? I
have
Do you have any photos? There are two versions of that model designation.
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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 9:30 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Legacy 1500EX w/ router for sale
I have
I hope you mean this as a joke? Both examples are copying a version of what is
known as a “Toe Clamp” taken from the machinist folks. They are just another
tool to be able to hold items down low to machine off the top surface.
In my humble opinion, Legacy’s looks inspired from a vise stop.
We have members in their 80’s. I don’t think we have any members in their 90’s
or greater.
Remember to trim your posts and create new messages when the topic changes.
Thank you.
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You got a point that I had not considered.
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Subject: RE: Question on the Legacy's Z axis
Stop build it then fix any issues as
Hi Bob,
Have you tried looking at the top-hat bushings? They can be rotated to another
spot and they will be like brand new.
To all,
Their were 3 designs that I’m aware of. The last design did have a plunge rod
like the plunge routers to help with the plunge problem.
Another
I’m sorry for your loss. That’s a good ad. The price is really high, but who
knows what the buyer is willing to pay. Your machine will do some amazing
turnings.
Tim
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Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 9:28 PM
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They still have 2x gears and split nuts. Accessories, or body parts, no chance.
Call and ask for Cindy and be nice!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:57 PM
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Subject: Re:
When you say “Clamp” are you referring to me shaft collars or how you have
mounted the wood on your milling table?
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Hi Bill,
John works for Legacy.
-Tim
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Subject: FW: legacy cnc spindle mill
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/loose_movements/index.html
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Subject: RE: Head-stock Play
This article I
This article I wrote up a long time ago might help.
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On Behalf Of The Viking
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:09 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Head-stock Play
Hello All,
I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so
I’m no help on this one. I was going to say it’s time for a new router due to
lack of replacement parts, the cost exceeded the value of the router and second
hand sales on ebay where not that good of a deal. My only other thought that
did not get asked is this, does the spindle turn by hand?
Here’s the source.
https://www.woodworkingshop.com/
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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:41 AM
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Subject: flexable sanding pads
Check this out guys from infinity
My custom rule is not too short. It’s the amount of a stock mill.
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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:51 AM
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Subject: Measuring Tapes - L to R and R to L reading
Curtis, A week or so ago you asked
Better than just made in the USA, it’s made in Oregon! Home sweet home!
Tim,
Very nice work. The BIG Deal on your tape - in addition to the
"OrnamentalMills.com" of course - was the "USA"!
I trust that that means "they" (assuming you had several made) were "Made in
the USA" (Like we always
Great Curt, you’re welcome. I had these made up for a project idea that did
not pan out. Notice how fine the increment markings are? The tapes are custom
of my own design so of course I had to have our name put on them.
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It is a 900 with the ball bearing headstock so it’s more likely a late model
since it also has the longer aluminum rail on the y axis. This allowed the
owner to update to the z-axis upgrade. The leadscrew in the front has ball
bearings so that also points to a late model. The legs are an
We talk all the time. Do you feel left out?
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Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Looking for a new self stick tape measure for my Legacy
Call
I’ve got a custom on that you would like, give me a call on Saturday.
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:17 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Looking for a new self stick tape measure for my Legacy
Hello
He will not see your message Mac. As per his request I removed his messages
and his membership.
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On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOM 1200 "Steely" on eBay - BiN:
Here’s your download link.
ornamentalmills.com/uploads/modernLegacyManual.pdf
Please do not redistribute.
-Tim
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On Behalf Of Liz Duncanson
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:02 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Hi Paul and All.
I have an agreement that all manuals, training materials etc. are to be
distributed only to the group members and only through me. There are backups
incase something happens to me. I’m not a copyright lawyer so I can’t comment
on the lack of an official copyrights on all
My height tool uses 3/16” stainless steel. The old models (1000/1500) all had
round holes that you used as a visual check. Then you would measure all the
corners at least once to make sure the bed was level. The newer machine used
the same visual method and measurement. I developed my
One other thing, the chuck are only 1/2" high so not much room for multiple
O-rings.Sent from Samsung tablet
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The O-ring solely for the purpose of holding the pieces together. It doesn't
protrude outside of the chucks. When using, I only lost a couple out of
hundreds. Some were lost to over tightening and the grain split. However it
might also have been the wood. Hard to say for sure.PVC is a very
To clarify, I'm asking about the diameter of the so called dead center that
legacy made in house that has a smaller diameter than 1".That example is a
stellar tailstock that I've admired since you posted it in 2012. Thanks for
showing it!Tim
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Hi Mac,To the best of my knowledge, all 1200/1800 models had bearings in them.
The model 900 and 1000/1500 had an upgrade path. To get more nerdy, the model
900 only needed the headstock while the 1000/1500 needed both the headstock and
tailstock. This is because the early models spindle
I think there is a plaque hanging over this group that say the exact thing.
Legacy use to say in one of their ads, "Your imagination is the only
limitation". Boy where they right. I'm sure they never saw us coming! Were
almost a cultSent from Samsung tablet
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Should have gone to the group...I'll check my sent file.Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: Tim Ziegler
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Subject: Re: Ornamental News Tim where you addressing this to me?Kind
Joe has extra nuts Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Date: 9/8/19
12:04 AM (GMT-08:00) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE:
mill for sale Well hawkeye mac I missed that too lolol Bill From: 'Curt
George' via Legacy
I like that one a lot. What is it going to?
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I don't really have any pictures. My setup was like Bill's. The only difference
is I made my sprockets from .120 laser cut steel.I've fabricated a pretty wide
range of items for the late model machines, but mostly designed for the model
900. Tools for leveling the bed easily, two inch taller
, September 2, 2019, 10:24:05 AM EDT, MWF
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Referred to as "Labor Day" (Labour in the Kingdom?). It is our
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Actually it is an American holiday this weekend!
Original message From: Richard Ellis
Date: 9/2/19 12:42 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: TESTING Hi TimHave done
that but have not seen any new posts yet The group see very quiet ,, is
everyone
You need to go to the Google site and change your settings to receive post via
email and you will be good to go.Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Date: 8/31/19
11:31 AM (GMT-08:00) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE:
You think this site is a muddle, imagine trying to own it! Hahaha There is
hardly anything left that we as owners can customize or fix any more. I'm truly
suprised that it's still around at this point. Google said it would always be
available, but it's been long enough that I've seen plenty of
This is really awesome to me. Congratulations on the 60th. If diamonds is all
you needed, you just needed to spiral one direction and then the other. I bet
you knew that through. Thanks for the food for thought!Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: Richard Ellis
The 2.5 I think should be divided by two since the spindle goes through a push
and a pull to complete a single wave. Am I thinking correctly on this?
Original message From: Richard Ellis
Date: 8/30/19 4:05 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: TK
Too kind Bill. I'm just trying to add to the conversation so others can run
with it. After all, it was my words that made Curt understand the process that
he was able to build a version before seeing mine. Either he is a genius or I'm
really good at describing things. Maybe a bit of
When I created my version, I thought making an adjustment larger than an inch
of offset was pretty radical compared to previous ornamental machines. Now I
see you want to really twist things up!To make that happen you would need to
adjust the offset an even larger amount than what I designed it
No, it will not make a change. What you will see by changing to a duplex gear
with a. Different tooth count will result in the number of waves per pitch.
It's been too long for me to remember the number of waves per pitch. I think
using the standard duplex you would get 4 waves per pitch and
Just a quick response to my reciprocate. I never intended the attachment to be
used with any other gear than the standard duplex gear. When I did make a long
pitched wave I used my poormans duplex gear that was made up of stock legacy
gears in between the leadscrew and the duplex gear.TimSent
That's something I have not seen. You might want to add a light return spring
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. Sent from Samsung
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Original message From: Richard Ellis
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject:
You did a trick without even knowing about it. The waves are not synchronized.
In other words, they don't start in the same place. TimSent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: Richard Ellis
Date: 8/20/19 9:54 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re:
If you are getting 2" peaks, using the 2x would give four and the 4x gives you
eight. Getting to the 6 inch goal would take a 24" pitch. Basically with the
standard duplex gear you will get 4 peaks per pitch. If you change the duplex
gear to 1/2 the diameter, you will get two peaks per
Here's the photo of the revo rotary table.There was a video showing this in
use. I'll try to find it.Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: artmarbles
Date: 8/12/19 11:40 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: REVO (again
That information is not correct. Legacy made a version of the rotary table.
Are you trying to get one or do you have one?Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: Brafield Bodger Date:
8/12/19 10:38 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: REVO (again)
Okay, I give up. Auto correct is fixing before sending an it does not ask if
it's okay to change. So much for a new email program.Sent from Samsung tablet
Original message From: artmarbles
Date: 8/12/19 6:31 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Auto connect did a real number it should have said "reading and flutting".Sent
from Samsung tablet
Original message From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Date: 8/12/19
6:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE:
REVO (again) Iv’e made a few that way
Curt, that link that you are pointing to is from an author that is still alive.
His name is John Edwards and the book is very enlightening. Please see his
website for more information: http://www.ornamentalturning.co.uk/
Max, the sharing of copyrighted legacy material is not encouraged in any
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