The List Has Moved

2001-06-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
In case anybody hasn't noticed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] has now become [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mail filters may need updating, you've probably got a ton of junk in your inbox in case you haven't noticed. :-) -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL:

Re: Templating Solutions

2001-06-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 08:08:50PM +1000, Ian Brayshaw wrote: I am finding XSLT XML to be a good alternative to normal templating techniques. One of the biggest benifits I've found is being able to generate the one data set and have it rendered in different ways for different

Re: CMS frameworks

2001-06-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 10:33:57AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Some guys out here in Brizzle want to do Yet Another CMS. Are there any frameworks out there they can plug together to make something plausible? I guess bits of the 2.0 slashcode do the job nicely, what with being TT based

Re: Templating Solutions

2001-06-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: In a moment of stupidity[1] I agreed to write an article for lathos on templating solutions for Perl. This was an attempt to finally break my writing block/issues/mindset problems. It is going to be a compare and contrast

Re: Templating Solutions

2001-06-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 05:39:11PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 06:30:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Simon Wilcox wrote: I avoided HTML::Embperl, HTML::Mason Apache::ASP because they all embed perl into the template which is a Bad Thing (tm). Why is

Re: crazy golf

2001-06-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:41:43PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: Beware, it's in Flash (or Shockwave) http://www.electrotank.com/lab/minigolf.html Hole 17 is a bugger How much time did it take you to find out this incredible fact? -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources

Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:20:15PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: or do they have unmetered called in Holland? If so and we had a direct line we could beg a Dutch Monger to call in and set up ppp to their broadband or similar connection Demon

Re: *Buffy's Not Included

2001-06-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:44:50AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 10:01 14/06/01 +0100, you wrote: The data from these files will primarily be diplayed within an HTML page. A perceived advantage of XML here (for someone who has barely scratched the surface of what XML can do), is the

Re: Online Bookshops

2001-06-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:42:30PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: Richard wrote: If I'm trying to avoid Amazon for some technical books, what sites are currently suggested? I think we need a FAQ, I'm sure this has come up a few times. You

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-06-11

2001-06-13 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 04:41:56PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: In other news: Microsoft SQL Server sucking (SQueaL), Sun Ultra Enterprise 1, google++, the Sony Clie being small and cute, checking out pubs for the next meet, buffy, search.cpan.org being hacked (Catalog module apparently),

Re: Persistent Perl

2001-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:31:44AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: And you'd have to make the daemon threaded, or end up running multiple pre-forking daemons to do the job. At which point, you're only saving the fork time and the parse time, which depending on how

Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 18:51 09/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Monday morning Precisely. And using Java et al is a discrimination against the mobility impaired. Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford,

Re: Default library paths

2001-06-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 05:40:38PM +0100, Matthew Robinson wrote: Apologies in advance if I have missed something blindingly obvious :) I need to change the default library paths in a compiled copy of perl. Basically, I want to move /usr/lib/perl5 into /usr/local/lib/perl5. I am unable to

Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux

2001-06-07 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:46:39AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I presume that this is a permie thing? Yes. And I'd estimate that _most_ of you I know would be, um, a bit too heavyweight for them... You calling me fat, boy? -Dom -- | Semantico:

Sony Clie (was: Re: Social meet)

2001-06-07 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 10:45:09AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: Between 5 and 6pm I'll be wandering up and down TCR looking for a new PDA. Sony Clie is my preferred choice at the moment. If anyone knows a good shop, or is good at haggling and wants to help, I'm on 07801 814138. Has anybody got

Re: Sony Clie (was: Re: Social meet)

2001-06-07 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 11:10:48AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 10:45:09AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: Between 5 and 6pm I'll be wandering up and down TCR looking for a new PDA. Sony Clie is my preferred choice

Re: Sony Clie (was: Re: Social meet)

2001-06-07 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 11:40:20AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I tried looking up developer docs for the clie on the web, but there's a a dearth of information about it, and what there is is protected by sony's restrictive licensing. It's

Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-07 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:26:44AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Dominic Mitchell: 152 Oh dear. And I haven't even been subscribed since the beginning of the year... -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com

Re: [OT] BUFFY No spoilers

2001-06-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:34:10AM +0100, Dean wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:29:14AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: ah well, we can probably also expect The Rock from WWF to show up and lay the smack down on some vamps, also expect to here plans for a BtVS movie as well, so they can

Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:16:51PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:07 PM (Anyone standing on the platform of reforming bank holidays? I'd buy that for a dollar.) Whatever happened to the plan to do away with that

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:27:07AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID (HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better... vinum in mirror mode is

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:12:30AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move windows and they

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:42:50AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this: % kwin -- display :0.1 (--display) Sorry, saw that after I posted... Why don't spell checkers

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:47:28AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:05:28PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: I'd like to tell you how to get the flash plugin working, but I couldn't because it's a Linux .so and can't be linked in to my FreeBSD konqueror. :-( There's an OpenSource version written by Olivier

Re: l337

2001-05-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:37:48AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 10:28 30/05/01 +0100, you wrote: my name is jon i have installed an irc client on my linux shell account can u tell me where the c00lest irc places are like what server and channel and stuff u all use so i can learn PERL

Re: Email::Valid

2001-05-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:40:03AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: All the one's that claimed to be valid from E::V failed chaddr! [EMAIL PROTECTED] had this result from chaddr: user: andyw. is good host: hillway.com is good address `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is bad: rfc822 failure So I guess [EMAIL

Re: Decisions decisions

2001-05-25 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:30:23PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: It seems that a PDP 11/73 is small enough to run at home. So do I get one or not? Yes! You'll have enough blinkenlights then. You can always get 7th Edition running on it. http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/index.html -Dom

Re: Decisions decisions

2001-05-25 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:51:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dominic Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:30:23PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: It seems that a PDP 11/73 is small enough to run at home. So do I get one or not? Yes! You'll have enough

Re: POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:05:59PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 2:45:24 PM, Dave Cross wrote: DC Haven't tried the routine you're talking about, but if you ever decide to DC give up on them, the Number::Format module (from CPAN) will solve all of DC your problems.

Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 07:49 23/05/01 +0100, you wrote: At 17:37 22/05/2001, Roger Burton West wrote: And get a shell account, why don't you? Thanks. I already have several. [snip] Much as I'd love it if everyone was to be able to

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Barbie wrote: From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] man 1 file man 5 magic less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems except anything written my MS of course... Which is

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:05:20PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 13:27 20/05/2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: You can't expect to steal music and then bitch about how someone is stealing copies of your book on line. True. But just so as we know where we all stand. I have only ever used

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:15:28PM +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 May 2001 13:28 Subject: Long shot Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: 1. Isn't Netscape 2. Isn't Eudora

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:30:27PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: On 21/05/2001 at 14:15 +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: I use Outlook Express, I like it a lot. It works for me. Much badness. We are withdrawing Outlook and associates from all our Windows

Re: Some Northern Irish Fun and Games ...

2001-05-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:27:10AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: This is the sort of thing that happens in the country i grew up in http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/northern_ireland/newsid_1336000/1336347.stm Is that Alan Cox in the Red Hat in that photo? Inquiring minds wish to

Re: test

2001-05-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:06:41AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: just a test You say that it's just test. Who are we to believe you. In fact, I think you're part of the US Govt consipracy to overload foreign networks with test messages. Prove that you're not. -Dom (Not My Real Name)

Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:36:58PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:01:11AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote: find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \; If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er, well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.

Re: Shoot out

2001-05-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:04:47PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: Statement: (And _boy_ can you write obfuscated Ocaml programs if you try! User-definable infix operators are an especially nice touch in that regard) Answer: Why isn't Ocaml more popular? Is there a good reason? -Dom

Re: Shoot out

2001-05-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:12:58PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: I don't find that enormously convincing as a reason, though. You may have noticed that it's possible to write obfuscated Perl programs ;) No, I've only over seen pleasant, readable perl code posted to this list. C++ is also

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I do keep intending to do something cute with my ISDN adapter and log the stuff coming out of the D channel and see whats in there ... but time has prevented it etc. I'd be interested to hear how you get on... I was under the

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:05:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Loved the footnote on page 78. Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :)

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:43PM +0100, Natalie Ford wrote: At 15:09 14/05/01, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Please, would you take the politics elsewhere? Some of us really don't give a shit either way. Hear hear! I am getting tired of hitting delete... :) procmail++ If anybody wants a hand

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] However what i'd really hate is any restrictions placed on the topics of London.pm , politics should be just as welcome as BtVS. Or, even, Perl :) Oh, please, we have *some*

Re: Long Dark Teatime of the Soul

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 05:55:56PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:56:48AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm Unfortunately I got the phone call at 7:10 this morning :-( Definitely a strange day. It got

Re: UK programmers left-wing? was Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:19:27AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: There are certainly far fewer left-wing bookshops now than twenty years ago. Most of the young seem now more interested in single issues like animal rights, globalisation etc then traditional socialism. Hey, that's just the young

Re: Monitors

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:52:06AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Me neither. I came to the startling conclusion about 5 years ago that I don't really like. I don't hate it, just don't particularly enjoy it except in odd moods and even then mostly dark chocolate. Will drool for Green Black's

Re: Long Dark Teatime of the Soul

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:56:48AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm Amongst the many other tributes floating around, I found this one quite entertaining: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010513 -Dom

Bioinformatics jobs (was: Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license))

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:18:00PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? I've always thought it sounded like fun. How does one go

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:24:54PM +0100, Melissa Fivelman wrote: Just to let you know that we have had numerous e-mails coming in addressed to James Duncan from your address. He no longer works for ebookers. Please delete his address asap. Many thanks Melissa Fivelman IT

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:32:32PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you really work for ebookers.com, why are you sending from a hotmail address? It doesn't lend credence to your request to have somebody else unsubscribed from this list

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:42:27PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:32:32PM +, Steve Mynott typed: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you really work for ebookers.com, why are you sending from a hotmail address? It doesn't lend credence

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your less,more,pg,sed,awkperl binaries are all fscked? :-) -Dom

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:10:13AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat(1) in sh, as well. This is not going to help you pause output. Although it'd be hard to control without ^S and ^Q

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:14:08AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat

Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
How many things do you have on top of your monitor? -Dom

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Boring! You should be able to manage some clip on furry animals. For reference, I have

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:43:29PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? I have a solitary copy of a japanese netsuke depicting a cat. My machine is name 'neko', which is japanese

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:48:40PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Philip Newton wrote: I generally bring one of my small stuffed toys to work ^ or my wife's. She has me than I. Eeek, I have more than my SO and I am wondering if in fact

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:59:13PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:22 PM How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Here - none (not sure why my mini-Tux never made it to Acxiom) At home - many things

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:15:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* It's not strictly necessary, as you still get the kinder egg toys... -Dom

Re: Bah!

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:54:04AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/cv I was going to post I can't open that in Microsoft Word; please re-send it as a joke, but when I tried to open the PDF version using the Acrobat plug-in in Netscape, I

Re: Bah!

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:18:22AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:54:04AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/cv I was going to post I can't open that in Microsoft Word; please re-send it as a joke, but when I

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:35:29PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into a file for, say, writing vi macros? i've had a look through some docs but i'm beggining to suspect it's one of those bit of unix aracana know to a chosen

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:44:41PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: In Emacs, it's ^Q, then the character you want. only ^Q? that's not like emacs :) Well, it's assuming that nobody's fiddled with the keymaps. You could alternatively do: M-x quoted-insert RET RET -Dom

Re: More revolting natives

2001-05-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:32:35PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Well, the 13 year old now claims to be 20. But no, this is his friend bk who kills people for a living in Hereford! Um. I no longer want children. You *wanted*

Re: Stuffed camel

2001-05-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:00:11AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 19:25 29/04/2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Can *someone* please pick a date to go visit the camel? Can't be done until a) the foot and mouth stuff has died down and b) I've worked out exactly who has paid for slices. homerMmmm...

Re: tube strike / may meeting postponed til 10th

2001-05-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:57:08PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: PO? dipsy ask po to do webby things like googling. He won't core dump. Promise. +or not dadadodo or not here while hitherto is on holiday po Dom2? dipsy hmmm... Dom2 is still annoyed by how bad emacs is at doing xml,

Re: Mailbox power ..

2001-04-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:04:39AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: this mornings powerdown @ 06:00 .. what time did yours come back up and has it gone up and down again since then .. mines been down twice :( Oh bcks. Mine hasn't come back up at all. H.. I have a feeling Sun's

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:41:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: [ and don't even ask me about the time Demon distributed some pox ridden disk with IE4.1 on it ..'err I just installed the latest version of Turnpike and seem to have inherited IE4 .. how do I get rid of it as its screwed my

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:23:16AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Robin Szemeti wrote: now I am absolutely totally 100% certain that some web browser (and thats all it is) should *not* mess around with the way I view folders. I think that was a turning point for me and my judgement is

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:59:53PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:30:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Philip Newton wrote: Chris Ball wrote: Are postings subscriber only ..? ] Subscriber not even, more like. I bet this email never makes it to the list for a start. I blame majordomo, when's that mailman thing getting

Online Banking (was: Re: Good Accountants)

2001-04-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 09:49:34AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I went with Barclays because they gave 12 months free banking and could group the online banking with my personal accounts. On a side issue, do you know of any online banks that allow personal accounts to download historical

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-23

2001-04-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 02:05:38PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Jon Galliers asked about naming a file correctly when downloading from a CGI. Niklas Nordebo and Merijn Broeren provided solutions: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04654.html Doh! We entirely missed

Re: MySQL - Oracle wrapper/compat. libs

2001-04-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:58:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Here's a perl question (OK, not really).. Is anyone aware of a compatibility/wrapper library which a developer could use to take an app using the MySQL API and with some (ideally) minimal munging turn it into Oracle OCI or Pro*C

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: And there was me thinking that Chris was going to say that he doesn't have a TV either. But he didn't. I don't have a TV. But I'm currently camped out in my parents house, and they have 2. But I learn that they will both be

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:29:09AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: From: "Dominic Mitchell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunno, but I sure hope the digital packages get a bit better than the current offerings otherwise I'll just switch off the telly and not turn it on again... -Dom (resents p

Re: Komodo

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:02:03AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think even vim can do it now, too. Never noticed that! I

Re: next social meeting vs tube strike

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:40:02PM +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: Camels are quite hard to see at London Zoo at the moment, owing to the foot 'n mouth situation. I was there a couple of weeks back, and the heffalump house was shut. The penguins ain't bad, though. Last time I saw penguins at a zoo,

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:59:51AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Who said "release early, release often". Apple are doing the right thing, IMO. Probably Eric Raymond. Which reminds me, there used to be a comment in the code for an authentication server at Demon: /* fork early, fork often

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:25:09AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Socket; my $dst = inet_aton("172.30.255.255"); socket(SOCKET, PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, getprotobyname("udp"))

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:02:29AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:49:20AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: If you have a complete /usr/src installed, look in there for examples of how it's done in C (it looks like you have a BSD machine - so it's quite likely /usr

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:26:56AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:11:45PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You're probably going to have to grep through the kernel source to see why it's being returned in that case. And I have a sneaky suspicion that the networking

Re: CPAN search from mozilla address bar

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:35:25PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: no idea if anyone will find this useful but: if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this: search name="CPAN" description="CPAN Search" method="GET" action="http://search.cpan.org/search" input

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:26:42PM +0100, Dean wrote: I've been using this for C coding recently and its not too bad. It has a couple of nice tricks though like clicking on the compile errors and being taken to the line. Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:47:57PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think even vim can do it now, too. Never noticed that! I normally edit my code in emacs and do

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Alexis Denisof (who plays Wesley) is going out with Alyson Hannigan (Willow). For some reason, this is made even worse by the automatic word association of "Wesley" and "Crusher". Excuse me whilst I puke now. -Dom

Re: TPJ Reborn

2001-04-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:44:57PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Sorry, ol bean, I'm already piping this list through two bots (my archiver and my URL-hunter). They don't say anything in public though. Yet. You could make them auto-send a rude message on encountering text/html... -Dom

Re: Perl on HPUX

2001-04-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:11:07PM +0100, Dean wrote: Hi All Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use something (even 'use strict;'.) The error is "syntax error in file p2.pl at line

Re: Perl on HPUX

2001-04-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:17:55PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:13:59PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: /usr/contrib/bin/perl -V To find out what version it is and post back. DOH! Its running 4.0.1.8 Should have spotted that... Next time you get told the dev box

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:57:08PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users. How to get HTML viewed easily and automatically. I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's still better than

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:37:54AM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: On the risk of offending the person who gets really tired of the w3m-is-better meme, I prefer w3m because I get send so many tables in html, they show up real nice. I found a problem with w3m (which I admittedly didn't look at

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of them are professional,

Re: [HELP] Traceroute

2001-04-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:33:19AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: Hi, Can any one tell me what this traceroute actually means... it has me completely confused (not that difficult actually!!) traceroute 195.153.113.229 traceroute to 195.153.113.229 (195.153.113.229), 30 hops max, 40 byte

Re: Linux.com Online Chat

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:20:25AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Tell all your friends. No heckling. Does that mean we can heckle but they can't? :-) -Dom

Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:37:07AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 09:32 On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:20:25AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Tell all your friends. No heckling. Does that mean we can heckle

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:17:24AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Funnily, enough, no. I was born in 1974, I've never been taught english grammar and I know of nobody who has. It's actually quite annoying as Me too, ('74

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