Philip Newton wrote:
>
> I read in a book about a place where this premise was taken to its logical
> conclusion and all residents of a particular state were given college
> degrees so that people would be equal.
>
> (It might have been Heinlein's _Friday_.)
>
It wasn't just college degrees.
A
Roger Burton West wrote:
> - Being employed is a good thing.
> - People with degrees are more likely to be employed, and to
> have higher salaries, than people without.
> - Therefore everybody should have a degree, and miraculously
> they will all be employed and have higher salaries.
I rea
Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 14 May 2001, you wrote:
>
> > But it does mean you need some
> > really AWFUL schools to pull the average down...
>
> AIUI suitable arrangments have been put in place to enable this to
> happen.
I intended to leave that implicit.
--
Piers C
On Mon, 14 May 2001, you wrote:
> But it does mean you need some
> really AWFUL schools to pull the average down...
AIUI suitable arrangments have been put in place to enable this to happen.
--
Robin Szemeti
The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:10:12PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Well, it's thinking like that that keeps the skills gap nice and wide.
> Hmm... can't be all bad then.
Better to quietly allow immigrants across the border, put them in
an immigration armlock and then turn a blind eye to them be empl
Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Martin Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Exactly. This is the same population that brought you 'Hey, why are
> > there loads of schools with below average results!'
>
> That was a direct quote. Tory education minister. "We want to raise
> stand
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:56PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
> >And while I'm about it, can I please kill anyone who complains that
> >our universities are 'too elitist?'. Excuse me? I thought that was the
> >whole point.
>
> Oh, that's easy.
>
Martin Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Exactly. This is the same population that brought you 'Hey, why are
> there loads of schools with below average results!'
That was a direct quote. Tory education minister. "We want to raise
standard so that more than half of schools get above average res
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:23:48PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:56PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
> >
> > And while I'm about it, can I please kill anyone who complains that
> > our universities are 'too elitist?'. Excuse me? I thought that was the
> > whole poi
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:09:16PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
> They seem to have taken anything remotely fun out of chemistry sets these
> days...
And put them into pharmacies...
Paul
on 14/5/01 9:24 pm, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> What the hell happened to the youth that did amusing things with steam
> engines, collected stamps and had a chemistry set? .. give a 16 year old
> a chemistry set today and they'd try and inject it.
They seem to have taken anything remotely fun out of
On Mon, 14 May 2001, you wrote:
> Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I respectfully suggest that we don't train the little buggers in
> > schools. We teach them stuff.
>
> Wrong. We show them how to learn.
I respectfully suggest that 50% of them have no interest whatsoever in
learn
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ACtually working out *how* to do this is left as an exercise for the
> interested reader.
A solved problem. Getting inept, inadequate, arse-covering halfwits
masquerading as "teachers" to do it, is another thing. Present
companies' relatives excluded of
Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I respectfully suggest that we don't train the little buggers in
> > schools. We teach them stuff.
>
> Wrong. We show them how to learn.
Indeed. An vocational training is absolutely the wrong way of g
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:56PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
>And while I'm about it, can I please kill anyone who complains that
>our universities are 'too elitist?'. Excuse me? I thought that was the
>whole point.
Oh, that's easy.
- Being employed is a good thing.
- People with degrees are m
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:57:59AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any
> volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet
> post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days
> holiday a year, a
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I respectfully suggest that we don't train the little buggers in
> schools. We teach them stuff.
Wrong. We show them how to learn.
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star
Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 14 May 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
> > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> > > Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> > > then you can simply choose not to purchase their produc
"will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How do you suggest we train our workforce when schools (which are funded by
> tax) can't afford more than a couple of rooms full of archimedes?
I respectfully suggest that we don't train the little buggers in
schools. We teach them stuff. Then, when the come o
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Lucy McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote:
> >
> > > Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in.
> > > The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world...
> >
> > Is t
Lucy McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote:
>
> > Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in.
> > The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world...
>
> Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you comp
Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With a sponge and a rusty spanner?
she said: "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing."
I said: "that's nothing--you should hear me play piano."
--
1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
there are some politicians who, if their constituents were
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:07:25PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> > So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?
> With a drill
>> With a solar panel and some batteries.
With a sponge and a rusty spanner?
Tony
--
---
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:14:21PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> >
> > What do you mean `naked'? As in one of those freaky hairless ones? Or
> > are you in the habit of dressing your cats up in little outfits? Do lots
> > of people dress their cats up?
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:14:21PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> What do you mean `naked'? As in one of those freaky hairless ones? Or
> are you in the habit of dressing your cats up in little outfits? Do lots
> of people dress their cats up? Is there a GAP for cats? Complete with
> irritating
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> >
> > > Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> > > then you can simply choose not t
* Alex Gough ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any
> > volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet
> > post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days
> > holiday a year, a nice uniform
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
>
> > Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> > then you can simply choose not to purchase their products.
>
> So how, pray, do I opt out of the internation
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Roger Horne wrote:
> On Mon 14 May, Matthew Jones wrote:
>
> > No, class sizes are down in primary schools (were primaries specified on the
> > pledge card?). Secondary school classes are level or *slightly* up, IIRC.
>
> Some spokesman on the radio this morning promised to r
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:49:26PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> Unless the door to the pupil's mind is open then there is no teacher.
> And he was enlightened.
http://simon-cozens.org/hacks/grok
--
For detailed information on the "info" command, type "man info".
- plan9 has a bad day
At 15:36 14/05/01 +0100, you wrote:
>On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> > 2. A teacher can't be alone in a room with a pupil unless the door is
> open.
>
>I know it's one of those Zen koans, but I just can't work it out.
ROFL
Unless the door to the pupil's mind
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> 2. A teacher can't be alone in a room with a pupil unless the door is open.
I know it's one of those Zen koans, but I just can't work it out.
--
Feed me on TOASTIES! There's no HALL for PHILOSOPHERS ON FRIDAYS.
- Henry Bra
>
> I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any
> volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet
> post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days
> holiday a year, a nice uniform and a free Hench.
>
... Before I kill you, Mr B
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:05:06PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
> > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> > > Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> > > then you can simply choose not to p
> > So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil
> > companies' cartel?
>
> use the tube and electric trains? Most power stations aren't oil fired
> AFAIK.
Not even then, I guess. Am I right in thinkming that many plastics are
(by-)products of the refining process? So that's internal com
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?
Adapt that gas-guzzling beast of yours to run on rape seed oil.
Martin
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?
With a solar panel and some batteries.
Martin
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?
With a drill.
Martin
On Mon, 14 May 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> > Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> > then you can simply choose not to purchase their products.
> So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
>
> > Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> > then you can simply choose not to purchase their products.
>
> So how, pray, do I opt ou
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:11:13PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> Well one advantage of BP or Shell is if you don't like either company
> then you can simply choose not to purchase their products.
So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?
--
David Cantrell | [EMAIL P
> class but reducing the pupil/adult ration, I guess.
-^^
Heh. I bet it was the MAFF comment which planted that one.
--
matt
"The (void) is that which stands right in the middle of this and That."
> Some spokesman on the radio this morning promised to reduce
> class sizes in primary schools and to recruit more secondary school
> teachers. How can they achieve the former without recruiting more
> teachers?
I'd assume that they would recruit more Classroom Assistants. Sort of
paradidacts
On Mon 14 May, Matthew Jones wrote:
> No, class sizes are down in primary schools (were primaries specified on the
> pledge card?). Secondary school classes are level or *slightly* up, IIRC.
Some spokesman on the radio this morning promised to reduce class sizes in
primary schools and to recrui
Robin Houston wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the
> > bioinformatics revolution?
>
> I've always thought it sounded like fun.
>
> How does one go about joining the bioinformatics
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:18:00PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the
> > bioinformatics revolution?
>
> I've always thought it sounded like fun.
>
> How does
> I'm not trying to negate your point, which I agree with, but I'm not sure if
> this one is true. Teachers at my daughters school have refused to give
> medicine to her, and to other children, some of whom are on constant
> medication; their mother comes into the school to administer it.
>
> Yo
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
>> Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in.
>> The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world...
> Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the
> bioinformatics
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the
> bioinformatics revolution?
I've always thought it sounded like fun.
How does one go about joining the bioinformatics revolution, then?
.robin.
--
"It
Matthew Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > the pump" lobby respond by suggesting that the government
> > >drop tax. Why don't they ever have a go at BP or Shell?
> >
> > You don't elect BP or Shell.
>
> Well, precisely, they're companies, so you boycott them. Which is what I
> thought tha
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the
> bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and cure cancer at the same time ;-)
>
>
> L.
Been there, done that at the Sanger Centre hacking around with genes
though...
Andy
Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> 2. A teacher can't be alone in a room with a pupil unless the
> door is open.
Things were obviously different back when I spent the occasional lunch break
(or after school) in detention :)
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All opinions are my own, n
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote:
> Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in.
> The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world...
Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the
bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and
From: "Steve Mynott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 14 May 2001 12:12
Subject: Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
> "Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm neither completely left, or completely r
Matthew Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It also irtritates me when the oil companies hike fuel prices and the "dump
> the pump" lobby respond by suggesting that the government drop tax. Why
> don't they ever have a go at BP or Shell?
Because the vast majority of the petrol pump price (someth
> Are they in reality, or is it due to the current lot being in
> lower birth years than the lot 4 years ago, and hence the secondary
> school numbers being up now?
Heh, it's pre-election statistics, so god knows what possible conne4ction to
reality they may have! :)
--
matt | I mean to make y
At 12:27 PM 5/14/01 +0100, you wrote:
>> Hospital waiting lists are up,
>> so are class sizes in schools.
>
>No, class sizes are down in primary schools (were primaries specified on the
>pledge card?). Secondary school classes are level or *slightly* up, IIRC.
Are they in reality, or is it due t
> > the pump" lobby respond by suggesting that the government
> >drop tax. Why don't they ever have a go at BP or Shell?
>
> You don't elect BP or Shell.
Well, precisely, they're companies, so you boycott them. Which is what I
thought that dump the pump was originally about; boycotting oil comp
* at 14/05 12:16 +0100 Matthew Jones said:
> > Ah, yes. That's like "we're listening", isn't it, in response to the
> > fuel crisis? We're not going to do anything, but we're happy
> > to listen.
>
> That narked me about the fuel protestors. They claimed "the government
> aren't listening". "Lis
> Hospital waiting lists are up,
No, hospital waiting lists are down. The time spent waiting to get on the
wiating list is up. :)
> so are class sizes in schools.
No, class sizes are down in primary schools (were primaries specified on the
pledge card?). Secondary school classes are level or *
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:16:27PM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote:
> It also irtritates me when the oil companies hike fuel prices and the "dump
> the pump" lobby respond by suggesting that the government drop tax. Why
> don't they ever have a go at BP or Shell?
You don't elect BP or Shell.
--
"He
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:57:59AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any
> volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet
> post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days
> holiday a year,
From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 3. Teachers are responsible for children taking their medicine. If a child
> has a critical allergy to (bee stings, etc, etc) the teachers are
> responsible for administering intra-venous beta blockers etc. They don't
> get paid more for being nurses
From: Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:08 PM
> There are some contractors here, I understand, who might have something
> to say about government policy on taxation.
Heh. Can you be a contractor and hold on to your left-wing principles? Let's
see...
Whilst I'd seem
On Mon, 14 May 2001, you wrote:
> > Just because they can't deliver those promises for those costs doesn't
> > mean no one else can. If they knew they couldn't deliver within those
> > cost constraints why did they lie and say they could?
>
> Because they are (right-wing) politicians. Just look a
> Ah, yes. That's like "we're listening", isn't it, in response to the
> fuel crisis? We're not going to do anything, but we're happy
> to listen.
That narked me about the fuel protestors. They claimed "the government
aren't listening". "Listen" ne "cave in to the selfish demands of a few
protes
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:44:11AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote:
> The tories are going to have low tax and pay for improved public services
> through "cracking down on benefit fraud", apparently. Gah, if only someone
> had thought of that before. 'Cos you can solve a long-term underfunding
> probl
"Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm neither completely left, or completely right. I would be happy to pay
> more income tax to improve health and education. I actually voted LibDem
Why don't you simply pay more tax then?
I am sure if you send a voluntary donation off to the Inland
At 11:58 14/05/01 +0100, you wrote:
>If you ignore all of those, I
>wonder how many of those 'stealth' taxes would really exist.
IR35, for a start ?
On the subject of idiocy and legislation, here's a good one
A dairy farmer has some cows (might not anymore, actually, but anyway...),
an
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:58:42AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> I recall the previous government being impressively dishonest about a great
> many things.
When was the last government that was *not* impressively dishonest?
I think there might have been one around 1868, but I'm not sure.
> The
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:23:19AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> Just because they can't deliver those promises for those costs doesn't
> mean no one else can. If they knew they couldn't deliver within those
> cost constraints why did they lie and say they could?
I recall the previous government
Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> does anyone happen to have one of those little plastic credit card things
> they were giving out before the last election with 10 things 'let us be
> judged on these:' ..
That was a Mark Thomas episode wasn't it?
--
Dave Hodgkinson,
> Just because they can't deliver those promises for those costs doesn't
> mean no one else can. If they knew they couldn't deliver within those
> cost constraints why did they lie and say they could?
Because they are (right-wing) politicians. Just look at the absurd
promisises Hague's lot are ma
At 11:17 14/05/01 +0100, you wrote:
>Governments never get value for money on anything they do. Discuss.
The Louisiana purchase was a pretty good deal. So was Alaska. So was the
Suez canal. Government subsidy of scientific research has possibly been a
very good deal, it's hard to quantify. Gov
On Mon, 14 May 2001, you wrote:
> Robert Shiels:
> > Over the next 4 years, Labour
> > will fail to deliver their promises yet again, and the
> > country will swing back to the party of low taxes, who will
> > be re-elected in 2006.
>
> Part of the reason why they haven't delivered the promises
From: "Matthew Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I have deeply unfashionable political views, though. I think tax and spend
> is a *good idea*.
>
I'm neither completely left, or completely right. I would be happy to pay
more income tax to improve health and education. I actually voted LibDem
last tim
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:17:51AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
>
> >> When have they ever been asked?
> >During elections. Like I say, in 1997, the UK voted in a party that was (I
> >reckon) seen as the guardian of the
> In 1997 the UK voted against the Conservatives. The policies
> being offered by the parties were close to identical.
For values of conservative that are "low-tax/shitty services", IMHO. The
policies may have been close, but the perception of the two parties still
pointed at Labour as the party
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
> >> When have they ever been asked?
> >During elections. Like I say, in 1997, the UK voted in a party that was (I
> >reckon) seen as the guardian of the public services, the par
At 10:45 14/05/01 +0100, you wrote:
>Part of the reason why they haven't delivered the promises that I think
>are
>important (decent public services) is because they've hamstrung themselves
>with this clueless tory low-tax approach.
Yup.
>I genuinely believe that the
>public are sick of watchi
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
>> When have they ever been asked?
>During elections. Like I say, in 1997, the UK voted in a party that was (I
>reckon) seen as the guardian of the public services, the party that is
>traditionally associated
In 1997 the UK
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:05 AM
Subject: RE: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
> > I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any
> > volunte
> This is why we should abolish democracy.
>
> We need a benevolent dictator. Obviously we can't vote for
> our dictator
> (not only is democracy too flawed, but then it wouldn't be a dictator
> either) so I hereby appoint myself.
Why not? The Romans did. The title of Imperator and Dictator we
> I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any
> volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet
> post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days
> holiday a year, a nice uniform and a free Hench.
Minister for Perilous Boogiedowns
> >I genuinely believe that the
> >public are sick of watching the NHS, education system etc
> >wasting away on a starvation diet and would be willing to pay
> >a bit of extra tax to make sure that their kids can get schooled
> >and that their sick can be healed.
>
> When have they ever been ask
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
> Robert Shiels:
> > Over the next 4 years, Labour
> > will fail to deliver their promises yet again, and the
> > co
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:45:45AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote:
> Part of the reason why they haven't delivered the promises that I think are
> important (decent public services) is because they've hamstrung themselves
> with this clueless tory low-tax approach. I genuinely believe that the
> publ
On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:45:45AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
>I genuinely believe that the
>public are sick of watching the NHS, education system etc wasting away on a
>starvation diet and would be willing to pay a bit of extra tax to make sure
>that their kids can get schooled and tha
88 matches
Mail list logo
