Some personal observations, If I may:
People in Convalescent and Recuperation facilities come in two
varieties, those who are recovering from debilitating injuries which
limit movement or self-support enough to require that kind of care, but
not hospitalization, or those who are utte
Hi all,
While Ron is quite right about the Early Music scene not being terribly
informal, there are more than a few reasons, the greatest of which is
noise level.
When my wife, sister-in-law, and I were playing with the UCONN
Collegium (Deb and I as townies, Dianne as a student) t
Grr. Deepest apologies.
This is the link:
[1]https://books.google.com/books/download/A_Musicall_Banquet.pdf?id=O3
VPAQAAMAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U3jLad_JgtvhDIrkwAnfUqFMjY4dQ
Ray
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 7:20 PM William Brohinsky
<[2]tiorbin...@gmail.com> wro
I noticed that it is a Hathitrust book, but scanned by Google. Plugging
the title and Robert dowland into google search, I arrived at
[1]https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=tra
nslate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://service.de.faber-castell
-shop
I replied to Guy last night, in a hurry, and didn't get the lute list
into the cc:
Helen Hewett's 1942 dissertation on Harmonice Musices Odhecaton A,
which was printed and published as Studies and Documents 5, Medieval
Academy of America No. 42, and included Isabel Pope's translation
..."Singing Odes of With and Mirth;" is, of course,
"Singing Odes of Wit and Mirth;".
My apologies.
Ray B
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:08 PM, William Brohinsky
<[1]tiorbin...@gmail.com> wrote:
And the song that ends "Better to be drunk..
rs Fight, but let me Drink; Boy, my Goblet fill to th' brink;
for when I lay down my head, better to be Drunk,
better to be Drunk, Dead Drunk; than dead ||
Ray B
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:50 PM, William Brohinsky
<[2]tiorbin...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, Howard,
Hello, Howard,
"Tune your lute and raise your voyce" appears as number 10 in the
second volume of John Playford's Theatre of Music.
A PDF scan is available online at IMSLP.Org. The overall page is
[1]http://imslp.org/wiki/The_Theater_of_Music_(Playford,_John)
Ray Brohinsky
On
Sidenote: On Windows, the free GIRDAC system does a wonderful job of
turning anything you can print into a PDF file.
[1]http://www.girdac.com/
They have converters you can pay for with more features, but the
straight-on converter acts like a printer, and allows you to edit Meta
in
I think, Martin, you might find it difficult to find software which can
follow any score at random, choosing the proper parts out page after
page, to combine into a different document. In fact, I think that most
people in the world couldn't successfully do this, because the people
wh
The model number for the stand David refers to is Yamaha MS-303al. It
can be purchased for around $60(US). It weighs 1.7lbs, cs. the 'usual'
folding stand format (Yamaha's is MS1000 and is also called 'light
weight' and has aluminum tubing) which comes in at about 3.3Lbs. It is
blac
I knew Harold Westover on-and-off for a decade or so. I knew of him
before I met him. Many of my playing associates have, at one time or
other, owned a Westover viol: they were classed as 'student
instruments', and were ideal for that purpose: Well made if not
historical, sturdy enou
So what do I know? the top of the bass extension appears to have at
least two pegs mounted perpendicular to the others, coming out of or
going behind the plane of the neck. If there are three arranged that
way, it would account for all 9 string.
To me, it looks like two strings on th
The MT-1200 manual can be found
atA [1]http://seanmehan.globat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mt12
00.pdf.zip
It has a supplement which gives cents deviation for each pitch in the
chromatic scale for each temperament as provided by Korg.
Some other useful resources:
Bradle
I guess I'm your boy.
I taught myself guitar,A starting at age 9 (having started 'cello the
previous year)A and played mostly folk styles (including Travis
picking). Never once was I able to play with a finger grounded on the
guitar top plate.
At about 21, I taught myself clas
[1]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/pages/home is a good place to start.
You don't even need to buy Django, since much of the content is in pdf
form.A
You can also peruse the mailing list archive for links to National
libraries which are providing images of original MS and print.
[
Interesting decision tree (if you'll excuse...)
So if your lute has no CITES woods in it, and you don't have
documentation to that effect, you still lose your instrument?
I know that EU has been voracious in preventing non-EU providers from
selling organs or organ pipes into EU by outlawing and l
What a world, where government officials will destroy a musical
instrument of beauty and quality sound because they think, somehow,
this will stop people from cutting down the same variety of tree in
another country...
Has anyone noticed how much good the confiscation and
heavens-only-knows-what-d
According to http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
As of January 1, 2014:
All works published prior to 1923 are in the Public Domain. There
are special cases, none of which relate to music published before
1900.
Works published outside the US by foreign nationals without
co
Every time I'm in this position (and it happens remarkably often, even
when playing amplified electric bass!) I am minded of Peter Schikele's
introductory speech for PDQ Bach's Sinfonia Concertante S. 98.6 for
Lute, Balalaika, Ocarina, Bagpipes, Left-Handed Sewer Flute,
Double-Reed S
Chris Wilke wrote, in a response to an increasingly unfocused string of
comments on Segovia's influence on Lutes:
| Actually, Paul told me that his idol as a young player was Eric
Clapton and he was thrilled to have finally met him at the Grammys
| a few years ago. Maybe Paul was als
> Cc: Lute Dmth <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>
> lutekulele?
>
> Geoff- YOU WIN!
>
>
>
> On 12/9/2013 6:18 AM, Geoff Gaherty wrote:
>> On 09/12/13 8:34 AM, William Brohinsky wrote:
>>> I own an electric guitar, and a small subset of the amazin
A valid question, Martin, and one which I'm sure we all have faced at
some point. And yet we still are interested in playing lute, and in my
case, viola da gamba as well.
Here are the thoughts I have had on the subject:
-I own an electric guitar, and a small subset of the amazingly w
Ernesto said:
Generally speaking, we want to get more guitarists into the lute, not
the other way around, isn't it?
yes, someone expressed that idea.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:09 PM, howard posner
<[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:52
I have to admit to not understanding the idea that the purpose of the
list or of lutenists should be to try to force people's direction one
way or the other. If someone is interested in guitar, or even
interested in hearing guitar music on lute, great...but is there
something wrong w
Don't get me wrong, I'm as much in favor of people paying fair wage for
labor of hand and mind.
But I honestly think people are missing something here: Graham Freeman
stated "I'm away from my books...".
At the very least, it might be a good thing to ask if he already owns
copies o
My personal preference is to see the edition in the same form as the
original manuscript, staff notation for staff notation, numerical tab
for numerical, 'upside up' for upside up, etc (with the understanding
that other than direction, I'm not inferring that numeric should or
must be
Tom Stone's patent is on [1]google.com/patents, number 4132143.
According to an article by David Canright, who made his own JI guitar
and wondered about interchangeable fretboards was practical, Tom Stone
sold the patent to Mark Rankin. Canright said
([2]home.comcast.net/~dcanright/
I am no expert on plastic strings, nor am I a degreed chemical
engineer. I have had a six-month romp through carbon chemistry at work,
and can suggest a few things.
First, Nylon and 'Carbon' strings are both carbon, since carbon is the
major constituent. Nylon used for strings, iden
According to OED, this usage dates from 1550 or before.
And yes, this is a pun, since there is no jesting with either variety
of edged tool. At least not sufficient reliability in 16th century
technology.
I have, in research since I first posted, found one direct reference
to the Watkins Ale tune
I have one. I have had it for a few years. For piano tuning, it is not a choice.
For just about everything else, it is wonderful.
The built in chromatic and preset tunings are very good, the response
is exceptionally good (and a contact microphone with some felt makes
it very very good, even in t
Fellow lute folk,
I am (don't ask why) taking a music appreciation class this semester.
We are required to write a one-page journal entry periodically,
related to one of our listening assignments. Fear not, this is not a
"do my homework request." The page is done.
The song I chose is by Thomas W
Your luthier can get them, or you may be able to buy them directly
from pegheds.com, as noted already.
However, installation of pegheds and other mechanical-advantage pegs
is not for beginners or the faint of heart. They must be glued into
the hole on one side of the pegbox, while the other side i
My thanks! The need has been filled! My thanks!
William
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:19 AM, William Brohinsky wrote:
> Luters,
>
> I am in need of the original version of 'flow my tears' (whatever the
> spelling) from Dowland's second book of ayres. I am specifically
&
Luters,
I am in need of the original version of 'flow my tears' (whatever the
spelling) from Dowland's second book of ayres. I am specifically
looking for white mensural notation and lute tablature, as well as the
original lyrics in their originally printed spellings.
I know that this is in the E
Sorry, Philip. I was going to get here, and was interrupted by a colleague.
The idea of playing harmonics on bowed string instruments includes
using a very light touch (hence, not squashing finger meat all over
the string) and finding the point as you bow that the harmonic
"sounds" best. That is u
Wow. awful lot of theory vs. practice here, and apparently the
practice isn't all that clean.
The topic was admitted from the first to be 'off topic': bowed
strings, not plucked (i.e., cello.)
Stretched partials do indeed happen, most famous in pianos. There, the
very short length and high tension
nsive tuners may just give you
some other tuning ideas.
William Brohinsky
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Edward Mast wrote:
> A question perhaps better posed on a bowed string forum, but I'm confident
> someone here can help me. When tuning my cello with a Korg chromatic
> e
Fellow luters,
may I offer some help in terminology?
First of all, micing does not exist in the language (on either side of
the Atlantic) in a context of microphones. I might have use in terms
of barn cats.
The actual term is, as was originally used, miking. However, there is
a price for using t
Yet another good reason why conscientious teachers forbid their
students from using Wikipedia as a source. There is more, of course:
if your subject becomes 'sensitive' to the PC feelings of the
administrators or some nebulous and unidentified/unidentifiable
portion of the 'community', it is locked
There are many approaches.
One is to drill a hole radially through the dowel with a drill bit
sized to the width of the slot, then use a saw to cut from the end of
the dowel to the tangent points of the drilled hole. Clamping the
dowel vertical and drilling into the bottom of the slot (with an
app
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
> Anyone know of an electronic tuner that calibrates to a=392?
I have a turbotuner (http://www.turbo-tuner.com/pages/features.htm).
A4 can be set anywhere between 220hz and 880hz. You can put your own
temperaments into i
Sesquialtera is a member of the family of proportions identified by
Boethius as Genus Superparticularis.
Boethius list includes:
Genus multiplex, all proportions which can be expressed as ratios
(fractions) with 1 in the denominator: dupla (2/1), tripla (3/1) etc.
Genus superparticularis, all prop
Ahh... so.
(sorry!)
Thanks.
ray
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM, David van Ooijen
<[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Gernot Hilger
<[2]gernot.hil...@netcologne.de> wrote:
> "honto da"
= indeed!
David
***
Would someone please translate for the poor idiots who only understand
a few human languages and a double-handful of computer languages? i.e.,
me.
thanks,
ray
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:45 AM, David van Ooijen
<[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at
And here we always thought it was because it's harder to hit a moving
target!
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Ed Durbrow
<[1]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote:
On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Guy Smith wrote:
Better a theorbo than a bagpipe...
You know why bagpipes mar
To which I will append:
Paddle lenses are the lenses with the hook attachment...sometimes they
are in plastic holders which look like paddles and the holder (which
perches on your nose and ears like normal glasses) have rectangle
supports to hold them.
In the states, in most places, when the optom
This is a problem I've dealt with over the last two decades. For me,
the music part is over, since I discovered (when I started playing
viola) that no glasses makes music reading easiest for me!
But before my eyes progressed to this state, I was (actually about 15
years ago) just about where you a
Most of these solutions also require that you get an mp3 encoder
separately. Read the readme files and do what they say, it's not hard,
but it does require doing. The common free solution is the Lame
encoder, which is actually quite good, these days.
I haven't faced this problem since I acquired f
I believe that the Bbb you are seeing refers to something like the BBb
tuba, and the second b is lower case because of someone's
overagressive capitalization-correction system.
In BBb tuba, the doubled capital B shows the octave that the note is
in, and the last b represents the flat. This is a no
Likewise, if you have a listing, but your asking price has changed, it
would be very good to update that as well: I had some considerable
descretionary funds before the accidents, and would have been
enquiring after theorboes if I hadn't had the feeling that the
listings were too out-of-date. Wheth
sent by accident to just Robert LeClair, but intended for the list:
I have a better/different idea.
I am on short-term disability, having broken and dislocated both
elbows on October 1st. (Always like to start a season off right, I
do!) I have three classes I'm still making up homework from, but
I have spent an enjoyable week researching the chekker. At least it
was more enjoyable than just sitting around healing.
Anyway, I was able to acquire some of the papers associated with the
Christopher Page article and the Early Music article itself:
"The Myth of the Chekker", Christopher Page, E
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>
> Exactly.
> RT
>
Exactly what? I'm afraid I'm not getting Chris's point, nor seeing it
as a change from what I said.
By the way: when have professional string players ever not tuned in
perfect fifths? In the 60's, we were taught to tune
It has long been my opinion that temperament is only necessary and
workable on fixed-pitch instruments of limited resources.
Specifically, it is a great work-around for a specific problem. For
the rest of us, it is not a temperament that will be important to us
(except where a specific composer adh
The external mic jack referenced is of no use for using the H2 as a
standard mic. It is to allow using an external microphone as the input
to the H2 recorder circuits.
Bruno,
I wrote privately with my doubts about the H2 being usable as a
standard mic, which hasn't changed significantly. However,
There is little difference between renaissance viol and baroque viol
as they are now made. If the ren viol has a sound post (and bass bar,
but that's harder to see) then it's not historical. On the other hand,
I know of very few viol players who will attempt public performance
without them.
That s
>And many years ago - before the main early music revival and
>Ovation-Maccaferro (Sp?) made a serious plastic guitar.
>Maccafero, of course, was the luthier made famous by Django Rheinhardt.
Very correct, Daniel, although it would have been more germane to the
point if you had also mentioned Macc
I'm sorry, but I have to say it.
Earlier in the renaissance revival, George Kelischek engineered
inexpensive krummhorns using ABS plastic and plastic reeds. They were
far cheaper than wooden krummhorns, and were intended to be quite
popular with schools and amateur groups.
In actual fact, they di
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Martyn Hodgson
wrote:
>
>
> Indeed.
>
> To return to the principal matter (wether low frets and low string
> depression to fingerboard are advantageous): depressing the string from
> just touching the fret top to 'bottoming out' on the fingerboard
> resul
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Martyn Hodgson
wrote:
>
> We seem to be at cross purposes: what I call 'pulling it (the string)
> sideways' is what you, I think, call 'bending'.
> MH
It is certain that what you are calling pulling is what I am calling
bending. This was the reason for my remarks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Martyn Hodgson
wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps you are, in practice, actually pulling it sideways which is the
> usual way of raising the pitch as, indeed, someone else has already
> mentioned. Sideways movement is effectively independent of fret size
> which is the p
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM, wrote:
>
> No, I mean plain old modern staff notation. Not the esoteric, specialized
> stuff of early Western music. Mensural, as is "Add mensural staff" of
> Fronimo. Sorry if the use of the not-quite-exact term was confusing. I'm
> just meaning to contrast t
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Martyn Hodgson
wrote:
> However, for mysterious reasons, some modern players string small
> theorboes with low octaves on the second course even when wholly
> unnecessary at the pitch in which they play.
>
> If we have any pretensions to 'Historically Informe
*sigh*. Correction: At A=494, a G lute (at previous A=440) is now in F.
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM, William Brohinsky wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson
> wrote:
>>
>
>> Clearly all this is subject to considerations of local pitch standa
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson
wrote:
>
> Clearly all this is subject to considerations of local pitch standards
> and national preferences...
>
Oddly, no one seems to have settled on the most obvious solution:
Caroline merely needs to declare the local
Caveats for Finale Notepad:
This is a very very pared-down version of finale. That means that you
get all the problems without the facilities to fix them (spider-thin
staff lines and barlines, which are more than an annoyance to folk
with less-than-perfect vision, including us older folk) and the
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Peter Martin wrote:
> My real question was about the highest professional standards, and
> specifically whether lutenists can ever hope to match the standards of
> top pianists or violinists, for example, while they persist in
> spreading their efforts over
I'm suspecting that the real question Peter raised is being skirted by
the respondents' reaction to the supposition of a charge
of dilettantism. Now that I've caught up a little, I see that he isn't
necessarily saying that lutenists tending to dilettantism is bad, just
that other musicians' (and po
It is the ultimate irony that someone, somewhere, will pay real money
in order to read this 3-page collection of drivel. They may even copy
the entire thing and give it in as their own writing (which is, after
all, the purpose of these kinds of sites.) They will simultaneously be
gigged for plagiar
There's no question that this shows something, but I'm not sure the
conclusion is valid.
First, if he had been playing "Over the Rainbow" on a tenor sax, I'm
pretty sure he'd have had more attention and more 'donations'. Busking
is more the art of making things appeal to passersby than demanding
l
Guy,
If you have any guitar experience, you already know the chords. From
the second string (E) down to the A string, you have the top five
strings of the guitar (albeit reentrantly tuned because the "top" E is
an octave lower.) The next four strings represent the diatonic scale
from the guitar's
Colligenous Trenchan...never mind.
Lute folk,
A few years back, I used to run a very loose Sing It Yourself Messiah
in these parts. Basically, instead of the carefully rehearsed
orchestra and soloists with 'pick up' chorus, we just gathered a very
small core band (in those days, just a string tri
ce we'd be good to go.
>
> Maybe the lute societies and webpagers could tell us more about how they
> distribute music on the web and what feedback they get from their
> constituents.
>
>
> my 2.1 cents
> Sean
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:24 AM, William Brohinsky w
I think, maybe, we can skip the prejudicial ad-hominem remarks.
I try to play from all kinds of tablature, and frankly, I find the
in-the-line notation hardest. And, as my age increases (which can be
said of all of us on this list: if you've figured a way to get younger
as time progresses, please
Hey!
I resemble those remarks!
I don't get to sit a lot. I _do_ like to transcribe music. A computer
with a simple text interface is all you need to make lilypond files. I
can do them on my pocketPC. The results, transferred to a nailed-down
(or more nailed-down) computer and compiled, are gorgeo
Well, it's quite self-evident to me: Lilypond supports guitar, banjo,
and maybe mandolin. Period.
If you read the docs, you can see that you can define the number of
strings and set their open-string pitches. You have one font, numbers,
one type of flag, attached to the numbers like they would be
Hi folk.
The Uconn Collegium had their concerts in the week of 10 December, and
I played viol and renaissance lute for them. The lute was limited to
the song I had asked about a few months ago (Gilles Durant's "Ma Belle
Si Ton Ame"), and it seemed to go quite well. Many thanks to all who
responded
Colliginous trenchancy,
Tonight I was given a pretty hard-to-read copy of this bataille air de
cour based on Une Jeune Filette. I'm to play the lute part (it fits
fine on a renlute in G)
I wonder if anyone has a fair copy, or perhaps a well-set PDF of this
piece? If not, now that I've learned Dja
I posted this right after the question was asked, and now see it only
went to Dennis, so here it is again, apologies for the repeat, Dennis,
and the delay, everyone else.
I've seen equally compelling arguments for "Doeland", "Dowland" and
"Dooland". Considering his heritage and whom he worked for,
rom such a system. Any ideas where I went wrong?
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 3 Oct 2008, at 13:45, William Brohinsky wrote:
>
>> Actually, Dowland's tuning is quite sensible. The rule of 18 sets a
>> lute (in theory, neglecting string stretch caused by sideways
>> dis
Actually, Dowland's tuning is quite sensible. The rule of 18 sets a
lute (in theory, neglecting string stretch caused by sideways
displacement at the finger and fret) to very-nearly equal temperament.
Apparently, the stretch added by actually fingering the strings brings
it very very close.
This i
I suppose it's worth revisiting this subject since I just acquired a
T-122 myself and have had a chance to play with it a bit.
I've set up lutes using Dowland's Rule of 18, and for Dowland it works
very well, indeed. But when I have to play with other instruments, it
is good to be able to set the
Collected lute wisdom,
The collegium is playing a pair of fantasies on Une Jeune Fillette by
Eustache de Caurroy this semester, and I'm supposed to figure out what
to pluck with them. They are number 31 and 32 (trenteuniesme and
trentedeuxiesme).
Has anyone seen these? What is the song they are b
Folks,
If you get an email saying that you have a UPS delivery, and it doesn't
have a tracking number, it's not from UPS. If it does, then you can
check the tracking number on the UPS site and it should have
information you recognize if you initiated the shipping, but at least
an
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you can use the Baroque lute why not just string it up with single
> strings? At least there will be enough pegs and the RH spacing would be in
> the ball park.
>
This is a reasonable option, exactly equivalent, however, t
***
> David van Ooijen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.davidvanooijen.nl
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "William Brohinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu"
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:
Oi.
Folks, please forgive me, and let this subject drop, now? I had no intention
of stubbing toes, firing up rwars, or causing people to point fingers.
It is now obvious to me that I did not make the case for what I want to do
clearly enough. It is also clear that, this request has no chance of b
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:13 PM, David Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a very difficult situation that you describe.
> I think the question to ask yourself, is where exactly you a are
> going in your studies.
Well, actually, where I'm going in my studies is an EE degree.
> Because u
Folk,
I have a lute-like-object. It was an EMS lute kit, put together (badly) by a
friend of whom I am very fond. He offered it to me when I showed interest
(the closest other thing I had to a lute at the time was a guitar.) I took
off the top plate and shaved the bowl back to correct for the neck
This is an important point: if the aim is HIP, then this is it. Many
three-part works written during the early chanson period were "given
new life" by the addition of a fourth part. Some of these extra parts
are quite ingenious, providing a complete change in chord structure
(not that the composers
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Both 44.1 and 48K are more than twice the frequency of the upper
> limits of human hearing of people with excellent hearing. This is
> more than enough for average hearers and overkill if you are making
> an MP3. The samplin
Colliginous Trenchancy,
I am (an an advanced age) finally working my way to an engineering degree,
and have been accepted at our state's premier technical university. They
just happen to have a Collegium Musicum (which I've played with in the
past). It just happens to have a theorbo, although curr
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