subject:"Re\: LyX for Mac"

Yes indeed, it looks like this is fixed in 2.3(alpha).  Many thanks, looking 
forward to its official release.

-David


Le 29/05/2017 à 15:26, David Pesetsky a écrit :



Can you please confirm that it is fixed in 2.3(alpha)?



Relevant commit is 881b7ec67 which was not backported to 2.2.3 as it was 
assumed to be minor.

Guillaume

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

2017-05-29 Thread Guillaume MM


Le 29/05/2017 à 15:26, David Pesetsky a écrit :

I have been trying out Lyx on the Mac over the past week, and have a repeated 
problem setting preferences.  If I try to apply or save any preference from the 
Lyx menu while there is a document open, a blank white box appears (as if the 
system is trying to show me a message of some sort, except there is no message) 
and the program freezes.  This is repeatable on both my laptop and iMac running 
MacOS 10.12.5, and the only way out is to force-quit the program.  I eventually 
learned that setting preferences only works if there is no open document.

Additionally, if I try to change a key binding that is already assigned to 
another function, the program notifies me, and asks me if I want to reassign 
the key — but if I say yes, I am dumped out of preferences and nothing is saved.

These look like bugs, but any information or assistance (am I doing something 
wrong somewhere?) would be helpful.

-David




Can you please confirm that it is fixed in 2.3(alpha)?

Relevant commit is 881b7ec67 which was not backported to 2.2.3 as it was 
assumed to be minor.


Guillaume

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

No — no Karabiner on my system.

-David


> On May 29, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 05:41:16PM +, David Pesetsky wrote:
>> Dear Anders and Joel,
>> 
>> Thank you both.
>> 
>> Just to add one more piece of data.  To try to isolate what might cause Lyx 
>> to freeze for me but not for you, I booted in "safe mode", so my system 
>> would be running only the bare essentials.  Lyx behaved exactly the same, 
>> with the same freeze.
>> 
>> So though it sounds like the change in dialog focus that you are seeing 
>> might well be related to my more severe problem, I haven't a clue why we are 
>> seeing different behavior.  Very puzzling.
>> 
>> -David
> 
> David, you don't happen to have a program "Karabiner" installed, do you?
> Please check in the list of running applications to make sure (in the
> past some have had it installed without knowing).
> 
> Scott

-- 
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Head, Department of Linguistics and Philosophy
32-D818 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
(617) 253-0957 office   (617) 253-5017 fax 
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Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

2017-05-29 Thread Scott Kostyshak

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 05:41:16PM +, David Pesetsky wrote:
> Dear Anders and Joel,
> 
> Thank you both.
> 
> Just to add one more piece of data.  To try to isolate what might cause Lyx 
> to freeze for me but not for you, I booted in "safe mode", so my system would 
> be running only the bare essentials.  Lyx behaved exactly the same, with the 
> same freeze.
> 
> So though it sounds like the change in dialog focus that you are seeing might 
> well be related to my more severe problem, I haven't a clue why we are seeing 
> different behavior.  Very puzzling.
> 
> -David

David, you don't happen to have a program "Karabiner" installed, do you?
Please check in the list of running applications to make sure (in the
past some have had it installed without knowing).

Scott

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

Dear Anders and Joel,

Thank you both.

Just to add one more piece of data.  To try to isolate what might cause Lyx to 
freeze for me but not for you, I booted in "safe mode", so my system would be 
running only the bare essentials.  Lyx behaved exactly the same, with the same 
freeze.

So though it sounds like the change in dialog focus that you are seeing might 
well be related to my more severe problem, I haven't a clue why we are seeing 
different behavior.  Very puzzling.

-David

On May 29, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Anders Ekberg > 
wrote:

On 2017May29, at 18:45, Joel Kulesza 
> wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Pesetsky 
> wrote:

1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything, on any 
submenu
3. Click "Apply"
4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its frozen 
state, that window turns black.

Thanks for the detailed steps.  Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce with LyX 
2.2.3 on OS X 10.12.5.  However, there is some differing behavior I experience 
which might explain why you see different things.

When I do NOT have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, Save, and 
all is well. This is also the behavior I'd expect relative to my next point.

When I do have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, *the dialog 
window goes to the background*, I retrieve the dialog, Save, and all is well.

I wonder if someone can track down why the dialog focus changes depending on 
whether a document is open or not.

Can’t track down why the dialog focus changes, but can confirm the behaviour 
that Apply with a document open sends the dialog window to the background (OSX 
10.12.5 here too if that is any clue).
/Anders

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

2017-05-29 Thread Anders Ekberg


> On 2017May29, at 18:45, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Pesetsky  > wrote:
> 
> 1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
> 2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything, on 
> any submenu
> 3. Click "Apply"
> 4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
> 5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its frozen 
> state, that window turns black.  
> 
> Thanks for the detailed steps.  Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce with LyX 
> 2.2.3 on OS X 10.12.5.  However, there is some differing behavior I 
> experience which might explain why you see different things.
> 
> When I do NOT have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, Save, 
> and all is well. This is also the behavior I'd expect relative to my next 
> point.
> 
> When I do have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, *the dialog 
> window goes to the background*, I retrieve the dialog, Save, and all is well. 
>  
> 
> I wonder if someone can track down why the dialog focus changes depending on 
> whether a document is open or not. 

Can’t track down why the dialog focus changes, but can confirm the behaviour 
that Apply with a document open sends the dialog window to the background (OSX 
10.12.5 here too if that is any clue).
/Anders

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

2017-05-29 Thread Joel Kulesza

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:

>
> 1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
> 2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything,
> on any submenu
> 3. Click "Apply"
> 4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
> 5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its
> frozen state, that window turns black.
>

Thanks for the detailed steps.  Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce with LyX
2.2.3 on OS X 10.12.5.  However, there is some differing behavior I
experience which might explain why you see different things.

When I do NOT have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, Save,
and all is well. This is also the behavior I'd expect relative to my next
point.

When I do have a document open, I can tweak a preference, Apply, *the
dialog window goes to the background*, I retrieve the dialog, Save, and all
is well.

I wonder if someone can track down why the dialog focus changes depending
on whether a document is open or not.

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

Sending a second time, since evidently the version with attachments did not go 
through.

On May 29, 2017, at 10:44 AM, David Pesetsky 
> wrote:

Thank you for your reply.  This is Lyx version 2.2.3, installed from .dmg.

Focusing on the first of the two problems I wrote about:

1. Open LyX:Preferences  (with no file open)
2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be any change on 
any submenu)
3. Click "Apply"
4. Click "Save"
5. all is well - the preference is saved and works

but:
1. Open a Lyx file in the editor window.
2. Change any setting, for example, Screen Font (but it can be anything, on any 
submenu
3. Click "Apply"
4. A white box appears and the program freezes.
5. Also: if you click on the editor window while the program is in its frozen 
state, that window turns black.

I don't know if this message board will accept attachments, but I'll send 
screen shots, in case they get through.

On May 29, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Joel Kulesza 
> wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:26 AM, David Pesetsky 
> wrote:
I have been trying out Lyx on the Mac over the past week, and have a repeated 
problem setting preferences.  If I try to apply or save any preference from the 
Lyx menu while there is a document open, a blank white box appears (as if the 
system is trying to show me a message of some sort, except there is no message) 
and the program freezes.  This is repeatable on both my laptop and iMac running 
MacOS 10.12.5, and the only way out is to force-quit the program.  I eventually 
learned that setting preferences only works if there is no open document.

Additionally, if I try to change a key binding that is already assigned to 
another function, the program notifies me, and asks me if I want to reassign 
the key — but if I say yes, I am dumped out of preferences and nothing is saved.

These look like bugs, but any information or assistance (am I doing something 
wrong somewhere?) would be helpful.

-David

David:

Which version of LyX (LyX Menu -> About LyX)?  Installed from .dmg or compiled 
yourself?

If you give a step-by-step examples to reproduce what you're experiencing, I'll 
try to reproduce and will report back.

- Joel

--
David Pesetsky [pese...@mit.edu]
Head, Department of Linguistics and Philosophy
32-D818 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
(617) 253-0957 office   (617) 253-5017 fax
http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html

Re: Lyx on Mac: Preferences problems

2017-05-29 Thread Joel Kulesza

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:26 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:

> I have been trying out Lyx on the Mac over the past week, and have a
> repeated problem setting preferences.  If I try to apply or save any
> preference from the Lyx menu while there is a document open, a blank white
> box appears (as if the system is trying to show me a message of some sort,
> except there is no message) and the program freezes.  This is repeatable on
> both my laptop and iMac running MacOS 10.12.5, and the only way out is to
> force-quit the program.  I eventually learned that setting preferences only
> works if there is no open document.
>
> Additionally, if I try to change a key binding that is already assigned to
> another function, the program notifies me, and asks me if I want to
> reassign the key — but if I say yes, I am dumped out of preferences and
> nothing is saved.
>
> These look like bugs, but any information or assistance (am I doing
> something wrong somewhere?) would be helpful.
>
> -David
>

David:

Which version of LyX (LyX Menu -> About LyX)?  Installed from .dmg or
compiled yourself?

If you give a step-by-step examples to reproduce what you're experiencing,
I'll try to reproduce and will report back.

- Joel

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Julio Rojas

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not
a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:


 On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

  Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.
 
  I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also
 the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to
 change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
 
  Thanks a lot! - Tino
 
 
  Hi Tino,
 
  you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
 Retina-display.
  LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
  a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the
 display
  with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new
 version
  of LyX.
 
  Stephan

 Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution
 display, right?
 Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com 
mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina 
is not a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.


My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no 
doubt that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a 
non-Retina display when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font 
characters and most icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, 
with the right choice of screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for 
the main text font), if I am working at a comfortable distance from the 
screen (including with the laptop in my lap), the blurred/pixelated 
edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, my (corrected) 
vision is very good.)


That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the 
rMBP will be much better still when the version with Retina support 
comes out, and I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be 
around Christmas.)


Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 
5k-Retina iMac than on a rMBP?


-chris

   On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
   mailto:lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:


   On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net
   mailto:st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer
   tino.lan...@gmx.net mailto:tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in
   background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor
   area and also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are
   there any options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and
   clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino


 Hi Tino,

 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so
   called Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and
   the icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to
   enable the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait
   for a new version
 of LyX.

 Stephan

   Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a
   normal-resolution display, right?
   Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com:

 On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not 
  a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
 My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
 that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
 when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most 
 icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of 
 screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am 
 working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop 
 in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For 
 the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
 That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
 will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and 
 I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
 Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
 fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
 iMac than on a rMBP?

Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment. 
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.

To answer your question: I have to check it first.

Stephan

 
 Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution 
 display, right?
 Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts


Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzelchris.men...@gmail.com:


On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojasjcredbe...@gmail.com  wrote:

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not a 
useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most icons 
are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of screen 
fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am working at 
a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop in my lap), 
the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, 
my (corrected) vision is very good.)
That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP will 
be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and I 
eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen fonts 
in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina iMac than 
on a rMBP?


Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing 
is a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in 
mind by speed). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend 
to write rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I 
were using it for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if 
I were a really fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.



To answer your question: I have to check it first.


Thanks!

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Stephen Buonopane

I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with great interest 
as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in the next 6 months or so.
Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen quality on a 
retina mac versus non-retina?
How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked up to a retina 
Mac?
Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

Steve


On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:

 Stephan Witt wrote:
 
 Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com:
 
 On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is 
 not a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
 My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
 that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina 
 display when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and 
 most icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right 
 choice of screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text 
 font), if I am working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including 
 with the laptop in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are 
 not noticeable. (For the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
 That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
 will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, 
 and I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around 
 Christmas.)
 Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
 fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
 iMac than on a rMBP?
 
 Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment. 
 Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.
 
 Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing is a 
 bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in mind by 
 speed). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend to write 
 rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I were using it 
 for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really 
 fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.
 
 To answer your question: I have to check it first.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Menzel

Since Stephan Witt has said LyX will be updated to accommodate Retina
displays within the next couple of months, it seems to me that that will
address your concerns about upgrading to a rMBP. As to your question, fonts
render normally on a non-Retina external monitor hooked up to a rMBP.

-chris
 On Oct 20, 2014 2:07 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:

 I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with great
 interest as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in the next 6
 months or so.
 Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen quality on a
 retina mac versus non-retina?
 How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked up to a
 retina Mac?
 Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

 Steve


 On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:

 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com 
 chris.men...@gmail.com:


 On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com 
 jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not a 
 useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

 My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
 that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
 when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most 
 icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of 
 screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am 
 working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop 
 in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For 
 the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
 That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
 will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and 
 I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
 Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
 fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
 iMac than on a rMBP?


 Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
 Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


 Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing is
 a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in mind
 by speed). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend to write
 rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I were using it
 for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really
 fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.

  To answer your question: I have to check it first.


 Thanks!

 -chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Paola Manzini

Hi all, I do have a macbook pro with retina display running Mavericks, 
and I never noticed any lags, nor does the blurriness' bother me to the 
point of not being able to work on it.


I also have a windows machine with high resolution display, and on that 
one LyX is unusable, the icons are just too tiny. On the MPBr yes the 
font is not neat, but I can sure work on it. Anyhow, as this may very 
well be a matter of taste, here is a link to little video of how LyX 
looks on my machine while I type, so you can judge for yourself:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtkozxjx335617j/LyxOnRetina.mov?dl=0

Best,
paola

On 20/10/2014 20:29, Chris Menzel wrote:


Since Stephan Witt has said LyX will be updated to accommodate Retina 
displays within the next couple of months, it seems to me that that 
will address your concerns about upgrading to a rMBP. As to your 
question, fonts render normally on a non-Retina external monitor 
hooked up to a rMBP.


-chris

On Oct 20, 2014 2:07 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu 
mailto:sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:


I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with
great interest as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in
the next 6 months or so.
Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen
quality on a retina mac versus non-retina?
How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked
up to a retina Mac?
Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

Steve


On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:


Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzelchris.men...@gmail.com  
mailto:chris.men...@gmail.com:


On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojasjcredbe...@gmail.com  
mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com  wrote:

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not 
a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most icons 
are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of screen 
fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am working at 
a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop in my lap), 
the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, 
my (corrected) vision is very good.)
That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and I 
eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
iMac than on a rMBP?

Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding).
Typing is a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of
thing you have in mind by speed). Since I mostly use LyX for
writing papers and I tend to write rather haltingly, the lag is
not usually noticeable. But if I were using it for tasks where I
wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really fast
typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.


To answer your question: I have to check it first.


Thanks!

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Julio Rojas

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not
a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:


 On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

  Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.
 
  I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also
 the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to
 change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
 
  Thanks a lot! - Tino
 
 
  Hi Tino,
 
  you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
 Retina-display.
  LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
  a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the
 display
  with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new
 version
  of LyX.
 
  Stephan

 Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution
 display, right?
 Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com 
mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina 
is not a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.


My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no 
doubt that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a 
non-Retina display when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font 
characters and most icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, 
with the right choice of screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for 
the main text font), if I am working at a comfortable distance from the 
screen (including with the laptop in my lap), the blurred/pixelated 
edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, my (corrected) 
vision is very good.)


That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the 
rMBP will be much better still when the version with Retina support 
comes out, and I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be 
around Christmas.)


Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 
5k-Retina iMac than on a rMBP?


-chris

   On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
   mailto:lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:


   On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net
   mailto:st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer
   tino.lan...@gmx.net mailto:tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in
   background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor
   area and also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are
   there any options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and
   clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino


 Hi Tino,

 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so
   called Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and
   the icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to
   enable the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait
   for a new version
 of LyX.

 Stephan

   Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a
   normal-resolution display, right?
   Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com:

 On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not 
  a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
 My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
 that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
 when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most 
 icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of 
 screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am 
 working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop 
 in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For 
 the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
 That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
 will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and 
 I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
 Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
 fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
 iMac than on a rMBP?

Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment. 
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.

To answer your question: I have to check it first.

Stephan

 
 Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution 
 display, right?
 Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts


Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzelchris.men...@gmail.com:


On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojasjcredbe...@gmail.com  wrote:

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not a 
useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most icons 
are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of screen 
fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am working at 
a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop in my lap), 
the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, 
my (corrected) vision is very good.)
That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP will 
be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and I 
eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen fonts 
in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina iMac than 
on a rMBP?


Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing 
is a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in 
mind by speed). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend 
to write rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I 
were using it for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if 
I were a really fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.



To answer your question: I have to check it first.


Thanks!

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Stephen Buonopane

I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with great interest 
as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in the next 6 months or so.
Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen quality on a 
retina mac versus non-retina?
How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked up to a retina 
Mac?
Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

Steve


On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:

 Stephan Witt wrote:
 
 Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com:
 
 On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is 
 not a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
 My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
 that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina 
 display when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and 
 most icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right 
 choice of screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text 
 font), if I am working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including 
 with the laptop in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are 
 not noticeable. (For the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
 That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
 will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, 
 and I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around 
 Christmas.)
 Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
 fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
 iMac than on a rMBP?
 
 Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment. 
 Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.
 
 Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing is a 
 bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in mind by 
 speed). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend to write 
 rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I were using it 
 for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really 
 fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.
 
 To answer your question: I have to check it first.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Menzel

Since Stephan Witt has said LyX will be updated to accommodate Retina
displays within the next couple of months, it seems to me that that will
address your concerns about upgrading to a rMBP. As to your question, fonts
render normally on a non-Retina external monitor hooked up to a rMBP.

-chris
 On Oct 20, 2014 2:07 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:

 I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with great
 interest as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in the next 6
 months or so.
 Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen quality on a
 retina mac versus non-retina?
 How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked up to a
 retina Mac?
 Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

 Steve


 On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:

 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com 
 chris.men...@gmail.com:


 On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com 
 jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not a 
 useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

 My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
 that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
 when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most 
 icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of 
 screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am 
 working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop 
 in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For 
 the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
 That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
 will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and 
 I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
 Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
 fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
 iMac than on a rMBP?


 Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
 Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


 Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing is
 a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in mind
 by speed). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend to write
 rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I were using it
 for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really
 fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.

  To answer your question: I have to check it first.


 Thanks!

 -chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Paola Manzini

Hi all, I do have a macbook pro with retina display running Mavericks, 
and I never noticed any lags, nor does the blurriness' bother me to the 
point of not being able to work on it.


I also have a windows machine with high resolution display, and on that 
one LyX is unusable, the icons are just too tiny. On the MPBr yes the 
font is not neat, but I can sure work on it. Anyhow, as this may very 
well be a matter of taste, here is a link to little video of how LyX 
looks on my machine while I type, so you can judge for yourself:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtkozxjx335617j/LyxOnRetina.mov?dl=0

Best,
paola

On 20/10/2014 20:29, Chris Menzel wrote:


Since Stephan Witt has said LyX will be updated to accommodate Retina 
displays within the next couple of months, it seems to me that that 
will address your concerns about upgrading to a rMBP. As to your 
question, fonts render normally on a non-Retina external monitor 
hooked up to a rMBP.


-chris

On Oct 20, 2014 2:07 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu 
mailto:sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:


I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with
great interest as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in
the next 6 months or so.
Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen
quality on a retina mac versus non-retina?
How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked
up to a retina Mac?
Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

Steve


On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:


Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzelchris.men...@gmail.com  
mailto:chris.men...@gmail.com:


On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, Julio Rojasjcredbe...@gmail.com  
mailto:jcredbe...@gmail.com  wrote:

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not 
a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most icons 
are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of screen 
fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am working at 
a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop in my lap), 
the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, 
my (corrected) vision is very good.)
That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and I 
eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
iMac than on a rMBP?

Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding).
Typing is a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of
thing you have in mind by speed). Since I mostly use LyX for
writing papers and I tend to write rather haltingly, the lag is
not usually noticeable. But if I were using it for tasks where I
wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really fast
typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.


To answer your question: I have to check it first.


Thanks!

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Julio Rojas

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not
a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Jerry  wrote:

>
> On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>
> > Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer :
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.
> >>
> >> I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also
> the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to
> change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot! - Tino
> >
> >
> > Hi Tino,
> >
> > you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
> Retina-display.
> > LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
> > a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the
> display
> > with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new
> version
> > of LyX.
> >
> > Stephan
>
> Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution
> display, right?
> Jerry
>
>

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, "Julio Rojas" > wrote:
> Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina 
is not a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no 
doubt that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a 
non-Retina display when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font 
characters and most icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, 
with the right choice of screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for 
the main text font), if I am working at a comfortable distance from the 
screen (including with the laptop in my lap), the blurred/pixelated 
edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, my (corrected) 
vision is very good.)

That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the 
rMBP will be much better still when the version with Retina support 
comes out, and I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be 
around Christmas.)

Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 
5k-Retina iMac than on a rMBP?

-chris

   On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Jerry > wrote:

   On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt > wrote:

> Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer
   >:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in
   background.
>>
>> I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor
   area and also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are
   there any options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and
   clear icons?
>>
>> Thanks a lot! - Tino
>
>
> Hi Tino,
>
> you're using a display with very high resolution, the so
   called Retina-display.
> LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and
   the icons on
> a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to
   enable the display
> with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait
   for a new version
> of LyX.
>
> Stephan

   Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a
   normal-resolution display, right?
   Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel :

> On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, "Julio Rojas"  wrote: 
> > Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not 
> > a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
> My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
> that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
> when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most 
> icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of 
> screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am 
> working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop 
> in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For 
> the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
> That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
> will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and 
> I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
> Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
> fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
> iMac than on a rMBP?

Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment. 
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.

To answer your question: I have to check it first.

Stephan

> 
> Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution 
> display, right?
> Jerry
> 
>

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts


Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel:


On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, "Julio Rojas"  wrote:

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not a 
useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most icons 
are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of screen 
fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am working at 
a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop in my lap), 
the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, 
my (corrected) vision is very good.)
That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP will 
be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and I 
eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen fonts 
in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina iMac than 
on a rMBP?


Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing 
is a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in 
mind by "speed"). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend 
to write rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I 
were using it for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if 
I were a really fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.



To answer your question: I have to check it first.


Thanks!

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Stephen Buonopane

I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with great interest 
as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in the next 6 months or so.
Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen quality on a 
retina mac versus non-retina?
How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked up to a retina 
Mac?
Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

Steve


On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:

> Stephan Witt wrote:
>> 
>> Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel :
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, "Julio Rojas"  wrote: 
 Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is 
 not a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
>>> My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
>>> that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina 
>>> display when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and 
>>> most icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right 
>>> choice of screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text 
>>> font), if I am working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including 
>>> with the laptop in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are 
>>> not noticeable. (For the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
>>> That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
>>> will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, 
>>> and I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around 
>>> Christmas.)
>>> Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
>>> fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
>>> iMac than on a rMBP?
>> 
>> Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment. 
>> Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.
> 
> Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing is a 
> bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in mind by 
> "speed"). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend to write 
> rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I were using it 
> for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really 
> fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.
> 
>> To answer your question: I have to check it first.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Menzel

Since Stephan Witt has said LyX will be updated to accommodate Retina
displays within the next couple of months, it seems to me that that will
address your concerns about upgrading to a rMBP. As to your question, fonts
render normally on a non-Retina external monitor hooked up to a rMBP.

-chris
 On Oct 20, 2014 2:07 PM, "Stephen Buonopane"  wrote:

> I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with great
> interest as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in the next 6
> months or so.
> Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen quality on a
> retina mac versus non-retina?
> How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked up to a
> retina Mac?
> Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:
>
> Stephan Witt wrote:
>
> Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel  
> :
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, "Julio Rojas"  
>  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not a 
> useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.
>
> My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
> that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
> when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most 
> icons are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of 
> screen fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am 
> working at a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop 
> in my lap), the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For 
> the record, my (corrected) vision is very good.)
> That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
> will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and 
> I eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
> Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
> fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
> iMac than on a rMBP?
>
>
> Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
> Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.
>
>
> Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding). Typing is
> a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of thing you have in mind
> by "speed"). Since I mostly use LyX for writing papers and I tend to write
> rather haltingly, the lag is not usually noticeable. But if I were using it
> for tasks where I wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really
> fast typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.
>
>  To answer your question: I have to check it first.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> -chris
>
>
>

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-20 Thread Paola Manzini

Hi all, I do have a macbook pro with retina display running Mavericks, 
and I never noticed any lags, nor does the "blurriness' bother me to the 
point of not being able to work on it.


I also have a windows machine with high resolution display, and on that 
one LyX is unusable, the icons are just too tiny. On the MPBr yes the 
font is not neat, but I can sure work on it. Anyhow, as this may very 
well be a matter of taste, here is a link to little video of how LyX 
looks on my machine while I type, so you can judge for yourself:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtkozxjx335617j/LyxOnRetina.mov?dl=0

Best,
paola

On 20/10/2014 20:29, Chris Menzel wrote:


Since Stephan Witt has said LyX will be updated to accommodate Retina 
displays within the next couple of months, it seems to me that that 
will address your concerns about upgrading to a rMBP. As to your 
question, fonts render normally on a non-Retina external monitor 
hooked up to a rMBP.


-chris

On Oct 20, 2014 2:07 PM, "Stephen Buonopane" > wrote:


I have been following this thread (and past related ones)  with
great interest as I will be forced to upgrade to a retina Mac in
the next 6 months or so.
Could someone post some screen shots that show the on-screen
quality on a retina mac versus non-retina?
How is the image quality on a non-retina external display hooked
up to a retina Mac?
Sounds like typing responsiveness is also an issue as well.

Steve


On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote:


Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 20.10.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Christopher Menzel  
:


On Oct 20, 2014 7:46 AM, "Julio Rojas"  
  wrote:

Unfortunately, it is so. My wife has both versions and Lyx on Retina is not 
a useless application, but a very difficult one to work with.

My experience is quite different (though of course YMMV). There is no doubt 
that the screen fonts in LyX ≤2.1.2 look much better on a non-Retina display 
when examined close up; on a rMBP, the edges of font characters and most icons 
are blurred and pixelated. But I find that, with the right choice of screen 
fonts (notably, in my case, Georgia for the main text font), if I am working at 
a comfortable distance from the screen (including with the laptop in my lap), 
the blurred/pixelated edges of the fonts are not noticeable. (For the record, 
my (corrected) vision is very good.)
That said, there is little doubt that the LyX user experience on the rMBP 
will be much better still when the version with Retina support comes out, and I 
eagerly await it. (IIRC Stephan thinks that might be around Christmas.)
Stephan (or anyone), quick question: Is there any reason to think screen 
fonts in LyX 2.1.2 will look appreciably better or worse on a new 5k-Retina 
iMac than on a rMBP?

Chris, frankly, I wasn't sure I understood Jerry's comment.
Perhaps he's talking about speed and not about crisp fonts.


Ah, yes, that could be (subject of the thread notwithstanding).
Typing is a bit laggy on a rMBP (assuming that's the sort of
thing you have in mind by "speed"). Since I mostly use LyX for
writing papers and I tend to write rather haltingly, the lag is
not usually noticeable. But if I were using it for tasks where I
wanted to type full speed, especially if I were a really fast
typist, I can see that lag could be pretty annoying.


To answer your question: I have to check it first.


Thanks!

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-15 Thread Jerry


On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
 
 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
 icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to 
 change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
 
 Thanks a lot! - Tino
 
 
 Hi Tino,
 
 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
 Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
 of LyX.
 
 Stephan

Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution display, 
right?
Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-15 Thread Jerry


On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
 
 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
 icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to 
 change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
 
 Thanks a lot! - Tino
 
 
 Hi Tino,
 
 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
 Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
 of LyX.
 
 Stephan

Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution display, 
right?
Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-15 Thread Jerry


On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer :
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
>> 
>> I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
>> icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to 
>> change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot! - Tino
> 
> 
> Hi Tino,
> 
> you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
> Retina-display.
> LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
> a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
> with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
> of LyX.
> 
> Stephan

Surely LyX on a Retina display is no worse than on a normal-resolution display, 
right?
Jerry

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com writes:

 He said around Christmas.

I am looking forward to this present...

Rainer


 -chris

 Langer, Tino wrote:
 Hi Stephan,

 many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display
 with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a
 approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to
 support Retina-Displays?

 Greetings - all the best! - Tino

 Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:
 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and
 also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any
 options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino

 Hi Tino,

 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
 Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the
 icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable
 the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a
 new version
 of LyX.

 Stephan



-- 
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Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 10/10/2014 10:53, Rainer M Krug a écrit :

Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com writes:


He said around Christmas.


I am looking forward to this present...



We'll have to see what christmas :)

JMarc

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes:

 Le 10/10/2014 10:53, Rainer M Krug a écrit :
 Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com writes:

 He said around Christmas.

 I am looking forward to this present...


 We'll have to see what christmas :)

True ...



 JMarc



-- 
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Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com writes:

 He said around Christmas.

I am looking forward to this present...

Rainer


 -chris

 Langer, Tino wrote:
 Hi Stephan,

 many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display
 with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a
 approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to
 support Retina-Displays?

 Greetings - all the best! - Tino

 Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:
 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and
 also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any
 options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino

 Hi Tino,

 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
 Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the
 icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable
 the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a
 new version
 of LyX.

 Stephan



-- 
Rainer M. Krug
email: Raineratkrugsdotde
PGP: 0x0F52F982


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Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 10/10/2014 10:53, Rainer M Krug a écrit :

Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com writes:


He said around Christmas.


I am looking forward to this present...



We'll have to see what christmas :)

JMarc

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes:

 Le 10/10/2014 10:53, Rainer M Krug a écrit :
 Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com writes:

 He said around Christmas.

 I am looking forward to this present...


 We'll have to see what christmas :)

True ...



 JMarc



-- 
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email: Raineratkrugsdotde
PGP: 0x0F52F982


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Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

Christopher Menzel  writes:

> He said around Christmas.

I am looking forward to this present...

Rainer

>
> -chris
>
> Langer, Tino wrote:
>> Hi Stephan,
>>
>> many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display
>> with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a
>> approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to
>> support Retina-Displays?
>>
>> Greetings - all the best! - Tino
>>
>> Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:
>>> Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer :
>>>
 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and
 also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any
 options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino
>>>
>>> Hi Tino,
>>>
>>> you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
>>> Retina-display.
>>> LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the
>>> icons on
>>> a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable
>>> the display
>>> with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a
>>> new version
>>> of LyX.
>>>
>>> Stephan
>
>

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Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 10/10/2014 10:53, Rainer M Krug a écrit :

Christopher Menzel  writes:


He said around Christmas.


I am looking forward to this present...



We'll have to see what christmas :)

JMarc

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  writes:

> Le 10/10/2014 10:53, Rainer M Krug a écrit :
>> Christopher Menzel  writes:
>>
>>> He said around Christmas.
>>
>> I am looking forward to this present...
>
>
> We'll have to see what christmas :)

True ...


>
> JMarc
>
>

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Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-09 Thread Langer, Tino


Hi Stephan,

many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display 
with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a 
approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to 
support Retina-Displays?


Greetings - all the best! - Tino

Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:


Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-09 Thread Christopher Menzel


He said around Christmas.

-chris

Langer, Tino wrote:

Hi Stephan,

many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display 
with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a 
approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to 
support Retina-Displays?


Greetings - all the best! - Tino

Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:


Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and 
also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any 
options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?


Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the 
icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the 
display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new 
version

of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-09 Thread Langer, Tino


Hi Stephan,

many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display 
with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a 
approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to 
support Retina-Displays?


Greetings - all the best! - Tino

Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:


Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-09 Thread Christopher Menzel


He said around Christmas.

-chris

Langer, Tino wrote:

Hi Stephan,

many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display 
with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a 
approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to 
support Retina-Displays?


Greetings - all the best! - Tino

Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:


Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and 
also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any 
options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?


Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the 
icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the 
display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new 
version

of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-09 Thread Langer, Tino


Hi Stephan,

many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display 
with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a 
approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to 
support Retina-Displays?


Greetings - all the best! - Tino

Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer :


Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-09 Thread Christopher Menzel


He said around Christmas.

-chris

Langer, Tino wrote:

Hi Stephan,

many thanks for the information. You are right - I'm using a display 
with high resolution - so I understand the problem. Is there a 
approximately time schedule to adapt the current version of lyx to 
support Retina-Displays?


Greetings - all the best! - Tino

Am 06.10.2014 07:28, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer :


Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and 
also the icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any 
options I have to change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?


Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the 
icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the 
display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new 
version

of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-08 Thread Chris Menzel

On Oct 8, 2014 12:46 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:
  Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

 Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully there is a first version around
christmas.

Excellent news! I haven't found lack of retina support to be intolerable,
fortunately -- it's not terribly noticeable if you aren't working to close
to the screen. But it will be really nice to have the super sharp fonts and
graphics that make the retina displays such a pleasure to use.

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-08 Thread Chris Menzel

On Oct 8, 2014 12:46 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:
  Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

 Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully there is a first version around
christmas.

Excellent news! I haven't found lack of retina support to be intolerable,
fortunately -- it's not terribly noticeable if you aren't working to close
to the screen. But it will be really nice to have the super sharp fonts and
graphics that make the retina displays such a pleasure to use.

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-08 Thread Chris Menzel

On Oct 8, 2014 12:46 AM, "Stephan Witt"  wrote:
> > Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)
>
> Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully there is a first version around
christmas.

Excellent news! I haven't found lack of retina support to be intolerable,
fortunately -- it's not terribly noticeable if you aren't working to close
to the screen. But it will be really nice to have the super sharp fonts and
graphics that make the retina displays such a pleasure to use.

-chris

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-07 Thread Julio Rojas

Why is it so different from a regular display? Is it due to libraries?

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

 Thanks!

 -chris


 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net 
 tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
 icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
 to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino


 Hi Tino,

 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
 Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
 of LyX.

 Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-07 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 08.10.2014 um 02:43 schrieb Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com:

Why is it so different from a regular display? Is it due to libraries?

Retina-support is somewhat special because it's not simply doubling
the display resolution. There is a compatibility layer to enable it
for applications with retina support only. There are some reasons for
this.

See the details here:
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/HighResolutionOSX/Introduction/Introduction.html

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com
wrote:
Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully there is a first version around christmas.

Stephan

Thanks!

-chris

Stephan Witt wrote:
Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net
:

Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to
change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino

Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called
Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display. So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac. You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-07 Thread Julio Rojas

Why is it so different from a regular display? Is it due to libraries?

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

 Thanks!

 -chris


 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net 
 tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
 icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
 to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

 Thanks a lot! - Tino


 Hi Tino,

 you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
 Retina-display.
 LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
 a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
 with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
 of LyX.

 Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-07 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 08.10.2014 um 02:43 schrieb Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com:

Why is it so different from a regular display? Is it due to libraries?

See the details here:
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/HighResolutionOSX/Introduction/Introduction.html

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Christopher Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com
wrote:
Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully there is a first version around christmas.

Stephan

Thanks!

-chris

Stephan Witt wrote:
Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net
:

Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to
change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino

Hi Tino,

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-07 Thread Julio Rojas

Why is it so different from a regular display? Is it due to libraries?

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Christopher Menzel 
wrote:

> Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> -chris
>
>
> Stephan Witt wrote:
>
> Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer  
> :
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.
>
> I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
> icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
> to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
>
> Thanks a lot! - Tino
>
>
> Hi Tino,
>
> you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
> Retina-display.
> LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
> a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
> with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
> of LyX.
>
> Stephan
>
>

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-07 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 08.10.2014 um 02:43 schrieb Julio Rojas :

> Why is it so different from a regular display? Is it due to libraries?

Retina-support is somewhat special because it's not simply doubling
the display resolution. There is a compatibility layer to enable it
for applications with retina support only. There are some reasons for
this. 

See the details here:
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/HighResolutionOSX/Introduction/Introduction.html

> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
> 
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Christopher Menzel  
> wrote:
> Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully there is a first version around christmas.

Stephan

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -chris
> 
> 
> Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer 
>> :
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
>>> 
>>> I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
>>> icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to 
>>> change to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot! - Tino
>>> 
>> Hi Tino,
>> 
>> you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called 
>> Retina-display.
>> LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
>> a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
>> with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
>> of LyX.
>> 
>> Stephan
>> 
>

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-06 Thread Christopher Menzel


Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

Thanks!

-chris

Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langertino.lan...@gmx.net:

Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino



Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-06 Thread Christopher Menzel


Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

Thanks!

-chris

Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langertino.lan...@gmx.net:

Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino



Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-06 Thread Christopher Menzel


Is there an ETA for a retina-supported version? :-)

Thanks!

-chris

Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer:

Hi all,

I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background.

I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?

Thanks a lot! - Tino



Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-05 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,
 
 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
 
 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
 icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
 to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
 
 Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-05 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer tino.lan...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,
 
 I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
 
 I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
 icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
 to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
 
 Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: lyx on Mac - blurred fonts

2014-10-05 Thread Stephan Witt

Am 05.10.2014 um 21:47 schrieb Tino Langer :

> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed lyx 2.1.2 on OSX 10.9.5, using MacTeX in background. 
> 
> I’m a little bit confused because the font in the editor area and also the 
> icons at the toolbar are very blurred. Are there any options I have to change 
> to get antialiased fonts and clear icons?
> 
> Thanks a lot! - Tino


Hi Tino,

you're using a display with very high resolution, the so called Retina-display.
LyX isn't ready to display the contents of the work area and the icons on
a Mac with Retina display.  So, no, there is no option to enable the display
with full screen resolution on your Mac.  You have to wait for a new version
of LyX.

Stephan

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

Have you installed TeX?

Anders

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On 24 sep 2014 16:30, at 16:30, Taimur taimurahm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,

I installed LyX on my MacBook Air.
 When I run LyX a window pops up, 
saying that LyX will only have 
minimal functionality because no 
textclasses have been found. 
You can either try to reconfigure LyX 
normally, try to reconfigure without
 checking your LaTeX installation, or continue.

Whatever option I choose, View (pdf view) 
option remains off, i.e., I cannot convert my 
LyX file to pdf 
after TeXing it. I reinstalled LyX but of no use. 
What should I do?

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

2014-09-24 Thread Taimur

Hi Anders, 

Yes, I did. 
When I select New File, error pops up saying 
The layout file:article could not be found. 
A default textclass with default layouts will be used. 
LyX will not be able to produce correct output.

I cannot figure out what should I do.

Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

If reconfigure dies not help, try open a terminal and issue the command
sudo texhash
(You will need to give admin password)

Anders

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On 24 sep 2014 16:45, at 16:45, Taimur taimurahm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Anders, 

Yes, I did. 
When I select New File, error pops up saying 
The layout file:article could not be found. 
A default textclass with default layouts will be used. 
LyX will not be able to produce correct output.

I cannot figure out what should I do.

Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Burnham

I assume you are using MacTeX? What version? It really sounds like
something is messed up with the install. Have you tried uninstalling and
then reinstalling everything with the latest versions?

-Steve
On Sep 24, 2014 8:45 AM, Taimur taimurahm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Anders,

 Yes, I did.
 When I select New File, error pops up saying
 The layout file:article could not be found.
 A default textclass with default layouts will be used.
 LyX will not be able to produce correct output.

 I cannot figure out what should I do.

 Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

Have you installed TeX?

Anders

Sent from Blue Mail



On 24 sep 2014 16:30, at 16:30, Taimur taimurahm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,

I installed LyX on my MacBook Air.
 When I run LyX a window pops up, 
saying that LyX will only have 
minimal functionality because no 
textclasses have been found. 
You can either try to reconfigure LyX 
normally, try to reconfigure without
 checking your LaTeX installation, or continue.

Whatever option I choose, View (pdf view) 
option remains off, i.e., I cannot convert my 
LyX file to pdf 
after TeXing it. I reinstalled LyX but of no use. 
What should I do?

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

2014-09-24 Thread Taimur

Hi Anders, 

Yes, I did. 
When I select New File, error pops up saying 
The layout file:article could not be found. 
A default textclass with default layouts will be used. 
LyX will not be able to produce correct output.

I cannot figure out what should I do.

Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

If reconfigure dies not help, try open a terminal and issue the command
sudo texhash
(You will need to give admin password)

Anders

Sent from Blue Mail



On 24 sep 2014 16:45, at 16:45, Taimur taimurahm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Anders, 

Yes, I did. 
When I select New File, error pops up saying 
The layout file:article could not be found. 
A default textclass with default layouts will be used. 
LyX will not be able to produce correct output.

I cannot figure out what should I do.

Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Burnham

I assume you are using MacTeX? What version? It really sounds like
something is messed up with the install. Have you tried uninstalling and
then reinstalling everything with the latest versions?

-Steve
On Sep 24, 2014 8:45 AM, Taimur taimurahm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Anders,

 Yes, I did.
 When I select New File, error pops up saying
 The layout file:article could not be found.
 A default textclass with default layouts will be used.
 LyX will not be able to produce correct output.

 I cannot figure out what should I do.

 Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

Have you installed TeX?

Anders

Sent from Blue Mail



On 24 sep 2014 16:30, at 16:30, Taimur  wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I installed LyX on my MacBook Air.
> When I run LyX a window pops up, 
>saying that "LyX will only have 
>minimal functionality because no 
>textclasses have been found. 
>You can either try to reconfigure LyX 
>normally, try to reconfigure without
> checking your LaTeX installation, or continue."
>
>Whatever option I choose, View (pdf view) 
>option remains off, i.e., I cannot convert my 
>LyX file to pdf 
>after TeXing it. I reinstalled LyX but of no use. 
>What should I do?

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin

2014-09-24 Thread Taimur

Hi Anders, 

Yes, I did. 
When I select New File, error pops up saying 
"The layout file:article could not be found. 
A default textclass with default layouts will be used. 
LyX will not be able to produce correct output".

I cannot figure out what should I do.

Thanks for your reply.

Re: LyX on Mac OS X Loin