Re: [M100] 3D Printable replacement battery cover for M200

[Lee Olivares]

Resident 3D Printer repair guy here: that’s expensive, you’re looking at .50c 
in material for an FDM PET print. 

It’s about an hour on a Prusa MK3S @ .2mm, I’m fairly certain my buddy gifted 
me an M200 so maybe I can do some comparison shots. 

Printer is hot and ready so I’ll just crank out a sample as a reference, wait 
2hrs before making any purchases.

 - Lee
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 - Destroying technology problems. 

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 20:04, B 9  wrote:
> 
> 
> Very awesome! One of my M200s is missing the battery cover and looks a bit 
> janky with the flexible plastic I cut to fit in its place. I got cost 
> estimates from xometry and shapeways to see how much it'd be and it seemed 
> the cheapest options were $15 to $20 bucks. For example, here's Shapeways' 
> prices, but you have to add $3 for black plastic and then there's shipping on 
> top of that.
> 
> 
> 
> —-b9
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 7:15 PM Steve Glenner  
>> wrote:
>> The M200 I just got was missing the battery cover, so I designed up a 
>> replacement and 3D printed it. I donate the model to the community in case 
>> anyone else needs one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4508352
>> 
>> Tandy Model 200 Battery Cover by SteveGlenner
>> I bought a second hand Tandy Model 200, but it was missing the battery 
>> cover. So here is a replacement battery cover. It should be printed with 
>> supports as there are some overhangs but otherwise the settings probably 
>> aren't critical. I printed mine in black ABS so it matches the rest of the 
>> bottom case.
>> www.thingiverse.com
>> 
>> 

Re: [M100] 5.25" floppy drive?

[Lee Olivares]

FC5025 is a read only USB 5.25” controller from Device Side Data. 

Does not currently have Tandy support, but only because nobody has asked, yet...

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> On Feb 10, 2020, at 12:22, Thomas Morehouse  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks John.
> 
> I've never seen a 5.25" USB floppy drive..  All the old disks (library 
> research papers) are 5.25".  If I had a USB interface on a 5.25" drive I'd be 
> a happy camper!
> 
> Tom M.
> Old Sturbridge Village
> Sturbridge MA
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 2:15 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM Thomas Morehouse  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way for my 100 (or 102) to read directories on MSDOS format 
>>> 5.25" floppies?  A gizmo to allow an external 5.25" drive to work with the 
>>> 100/102?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Tom M.
>>> 
>> 
>> A raspberry pi + USB floppy drive + LaddieAlpha + TS-DOS in the Model T 
>> would do it.
>> 
>> -- John. 

[M100] NIB TPDD clone on Craigslist.

[Lee Olivares]

This is what I think it is, right?

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/art/d/knitting-machine-knit-brother-disk/7065377027.html

If anyone wants, I can nab and ship...

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems. 

Re: [M100] need m100 for hospitalized mother

[Lee Olivares]

If whatever built-in Android notes application doesn't have configurable
fonts, just use Google Docs.

The backlit screen is going to be easier on your poor mother's eyes anyway.

 - Lee

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 6:47 PM Jeff Gonzales  wrote:

> Buy it now shipping is going to take awhile, even for the AlphaSmarts.  I
> wonder if there is an android app I can use with my tablet.
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 8:43 PM Josh Malone  wrote:
>
>> I know the M100 is a perfect little machine, but have you considered
>> an AlphaSmart device? They're plentiful and cheap on eBay - lots
>> available on "Buy it now" that would probably get to you just as fast
>> an anyone from this list. I don't, presently, have any (M100s) that
>> I'm ready to sell.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>

Re: [M100] NADS Boxes

[Lee Olivares]

As the resident 3D Printer Repairman, if the volume is so low, is there any 
*disadvantage* to supplying a PCB with an STL that the buyer could have 
printed, and optionally purchase pre-printed at a reasonable fee?

*ahem* custom colors.

Here’s a cheesy thing I did in OpenSCAD for the DSO138 Occiliscope board:



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> On Sep 23, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> However, I *am* thinking about / working on a NADSMini version that I
>> haven't really told anyone about yet.  It would not have a removeable SD
>> card but rather a USB port that just plugs directly into your PC and
>> shows up as a USB drive.  And it would be housed in a DB25 backshell
>> with no custom enclosure machining expenses.
> 
> ...now *that's* something to look forward to.  :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>jim

Re: [M100] Backup ROM

[Lee Olivares]

Someone should to do a series of YouTube videos explaining how these
various options work, if nobody else gets on it I'll add it to my queue of
projects.

Data transfer, and HTERM, I swear I never actually got that working
correctly. :(


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On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Mike Stein  wrote:

> Among the support files for the extRAM and XR4 'Poor man's REX' devices
> there are several programs to save/load option ROM images:
>
> R2D - ROM to TPDD
> ROMCOM - ROM to RS-232 (binary)
> INTELO - ROM to RS-232 (ASCII Intel format)
>
> http://www.club100.org/library/libeme.html
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rick Shear 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 11:08 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Backup ROM
>
> That'll work.  Thanks!  In the mean time, I see Brian White has already
> extracted this ROM.  So, I likely won't need to do this anyway.  Might just
> give it a try to see if I can make it work anyway though.
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:41 AM Fugu ME100  wrote:
>
>> You could try this utility http://www.club100.org/
>> memfiles/index.php?===Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S  It
>> will dump the ROM as an ASCII HEX file to a TPDD device.  There are online
>> utilities that can convert it to a binary file that could be loaded into a
>> REX.  I have used it to read mystery OPTROMs that sometimes come with the
>> eBay machines.
>>
>> However I believe some OPT ROMs have to be modified to work with the REX
>> so the PSCG+ disk ‘might’ not work with the REX directly.
>>
>> Alternatively the OPTROM may already have been converted into a REX file
>> which is worthwhile checking.  There is a validated list of OPTROM images
>> on http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX  Others might exist
>> just need to check the archives.
>>
>> From: M100  on behalf of Rick Shear <
>> rdsh...@comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: 
>> Date: Friday, August 10, 2018 at 3:20 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [M100] Backup ROM
>>
>> I have a Model 100 with a PSCG Disk+ ROM in it.  I am in the process of
>> gathering all the parts to build a REX board and would like to back up the
>> Disk+ ROM to install on the REX.  I've been trying to find a utility to
>> back the ROM up from the Model 100 to a TPDD device.  Is there such a
>> program available?  Or will I have to get/build an eprom reader to get the
>> image?
>>
>> I found a program on club100 (ARTROM.CO
>> )
>> that would read the image and send it to an eprom burner, but I don't have
>> one of those devices and really don't need to burn a copy to an eprom.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers in the right direction.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>

Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI

[Lee Olivares]

5.25" floppy salvaging? Sounds like a job for FC5025
<http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html>!

Read only, uses a standard 5.25" mechanism, much cheaper than kryoflux and
more than sufficient if you're reading "normal" (not copy protected)
floppies in most any common format.

Since the DVI uses 5.25", if there's interest I can talk to the guy about
support, assuming it doesn't use the same Tandy format, I assume it does
not.


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On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Bert Put  wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> I bought one of these a few years ago now for my Kaypro 2X and managed to
> salvage a bunch of floppies with it.  Very happy with it so far although
> file transfer gets clunky due to having to run the HXE files through a
> converter to get IMG files that I can directly manipulate.
>
> Cheers, Bert
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Lee Olivares 
> Date: 7/23/18 16:09 (GMT-06:00)
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI
>
> I use flashfloppy.. has more features and is opensource the oled screens
> are way better than the lcd
>
> Good tip! I didn’t realize there was an OSS firmware replacement for the
> GoTek these days, awesome, OLED FTW!
>
> Damn I paid too much for those mini LCDs and never bothered to install one
> anyway, such is life. :P
>
> - Lee
>
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 13:52, Gregory McGill  wrote:
>
> Lee, I use flashfloppy.. has more features and is opensource the oled
> screens are way better than the lcd
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:30 PM Lee Olivares  wrote:
>
>> Hey a GoTek, I know those things.
>>
>> There is a powerful (commercial) replacement firmware for those gadgets,
>> HxC2001 has some extra features, LCD and buzzer support (for disk index and
>> artificial drive access sounds).
>>
>> http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> - Lee Olivares
>> - (909) 437-0250
>> - The Future or Bust.
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 13:07, Greg Swallow  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, they are 1.44 (diskettes and drive) formatted to 180k as the
>> original 5.25" drives.
>> I had to use drives with drive select jumpers and set drive 0 and 1 on
>> each drive. I
>> created the original boot diskette with a PC and then made others using
>> the DVI.
>>
>> There is switching that can be done using the M100 cassette port to
>> control side switch,
>> but that has too much risk to the DVI for my taste. I'd rather try the
>> emulator before
>> hacking the DVI to swap sides on a diskette. Only hacking I might try on
>> the DVI is a
>> new ROM to allow SSDD. DS is certainly out of the question, but maybe
>> some other features
>> could be added via a new ROM; e.g. CP/M?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brian White" 
>> To: m...@bitchin100.com
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 12:41:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI
>>
>> You made a copy of the dvi system disk on 3.5" ?
>> You somehow got a dvi and dvi-dos to use more than 180K per disk side?
>> Or is the dvi just creating bizarrely formatted 3.5" disks that only use
>> the first 40 tracks, or double-spaced evey other track, or something ?
>> It's really using HD disks? (1.44M instead of DD 720K)
>>
>> I guess a 3.5" DD disk (ie: 720K, not HD 1.44M), a single side of that
>> would be 360K on 80 tracks, and 40 tracks of that would be 180K, which
>> would be the same as the original single-sided DD 40-track 5.25" drive &
>> disk. And I think 3.5" always runs at 300 rpm whether HD or DD, same as
>> 5.25" DD (5.25" HD 1.2M runs at 360rpm), so I guess dvi dos and the
>> controller chip & firmware in the dvi could
>> do it that way.
>>
>

Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI

[Lee Olivares]

> I use flashfloppy.. has more features and is opensource the oled screens are 
> way better than the lcd 
Good tip! I didn’t realize there was an OSS firmware replacement for the GoTek 
these days, awesome, OLED FTW!

Damn I paid too much for those mini LCDs and never bothered to install one 
anyway, such is life. :P
- Lee 


On Jul 23, 2018, at 13:52, Gregory McGill  wrote:

Lee, I use flashfloppy.. has more features and is opensource the oled screens 
are way better than the lcd 

> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:30 PM Lee Olivares  wrote:
> Hey a GoTek, I know those things. 
> 
> There is a powerful (commercial) replacement firmware for those gadgets, 
> HxC2001 has some extra features, LCD and buzzer support (for disk index and 
> artificial drive access sounds).
> 
> http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/
> 
> Cheers
> - Lee Olivares
> - (909) 437-0250
> - The Future or Bust.
> 
> 
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 13:07, Greg Swallow  wrote:
> 
> Yes, they are 1.44 (diskettes and drive) formatted to 180k as the original 
> 5.25" drives.
> I had to use drives with drive select jumpers and set drive 0 and 1 on each 
> drive. I
> created the original boot diskette with a PC and then made others using the 
> DVI.
> 
> There is switching that can be done using the M100 cassette port to control 
> side switch,
> but that has too much risk to the DVI for my taste. I'd rather try the 
> emulator before
> hacking the DVI to swap sides on a diskette. Only hacking I might try on the 
> DVI is a
> new ROM to allow SSDD. DS is certainly out of the question, but maybe some 
> other features
> could be added via a new ROM; e.g. CP/M?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian White" 
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 12:41:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI
> 
> You made a copy of the dvi system disk on 3.5" ?
> You somehow got a dvi and dvi-dos to use more than 180K per disk side?
> Or is the dvi just creating bizarrely formatted 3.5" disks that only use
> the first 40 tracks, or double-spaced evey other track, or something ?
> It's really using HD disks? (1.44M instead of DD 720K)
> 
> I guess a 3.5" DD disk (ie: 720K, not HD 1.44M), a single side of that
> would be 360K on 80 tracks, and 40 tracks of that would be 180K, which
> would be the same as the original single-sided DD 40-track 5.25" drive &
> disk. And I think 3.5" always runs at 300 rpm whether HD or DD, same as
> 5.25" DD (5.25" HD 1.2M runs at 360rpm), so I guess dvi dos and the
> controller chip & firmware in the dvi could
> do it that way.

Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI

[Lee Olivares]

Hey a GoTek, I know those things. 

There is a powerful (commercial) replacement firmware for those gadgets, 
HxC2001 has some extra features, LCD and buzzer support (for disk index and 
artificial drive access sounds).

http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/

Cheers
- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 23, 2018, at 13:07, Greg Swallow  wrote:

Yes, they are 1.44 (diskettes and drive) formatted to 180k as the original 
5.25" drives.
I had to use drives with drive select jumpers and set drive 0 and 1 on each 
drive. I
created the original boot diskette with a PC and then made others using the DVI.

There is switching that can be done using the M100 cassette port to control 
side switch,
but that has too much risk to the DVI for my taste. I'd rather try the emulator 
before
hacking the DVI to swap sides on a diskette. Only hacking I might try on the 
DVI is a
new ROM to allow SSDD. DS is certainly out of the question, but maybe some 
other features
could be added via a new ROM; e.g. CP/M?

- Original Message -
From: "Brian White" 
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 12:41:41 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator vs DVI

You made a copy of the dvi system disk on 3.5" ?
You somehow got a dvi and dvi-dos to use more than 180K per disk side?
Or is the dvi just creating bizarrely formatted 3.5" disks that only use
the first 40 tracks, or double-spaced evey other track, or something ?
It's really using HD disks? (1.44M instead of DD 720K)

I guess a 3.5" DD disk (ie: 720K, not HD 1.44M), a single side of that
would be 360K on 80 tracks, and 40 tracks of that would be 180K, which
would be the same as the original single-sided DD 40-track 5.25" drive &
disk. And I think 3.5" always runs at 300 rpm whether HD or DD, same as
5.25" DD (5.25" HD 1.2M runs at 360rpm), so I guess dvi dos and the
controller chip & firmware in the dvi could
do it that way.

Re: [M100] SD2TPDD Project

[Lee Olivares]

FatFS FTW; nice to see elm-chan come up, a prototyping wizard from outer-space, 
for those unfamiliar: https://youtu.be/i5MNLTc7YhY
- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 21, 2018, at 15:18, Fugu ME100  wrote:

I used the FatFS http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/00index_e.html file system for the 
SD card,  it is much more flexible and avoids the nasty file and directory 
rename issues.  It will easily fit in a Mega – I think it was about 18K or less 
compiled.  

The Arduino SD.h has a few bugs in it that have never been fixed including a 
really nasty size bug to do with sectors on the SD card.  Causes all sorts of 
problems when trying to size an SD card.   

From: M100  on behalf of c646581 

Reply-To: 
Date: Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 3:00 PM
To: 
Subject: [M100] SD2TPDD Project

Hello!

As several of you already know, I've been working on a TPDD emulator that runs 
on an Arduino Mega and uses an SD card for mass storage. I've gotten the 
emulator to the point where I feel comfortable releasing it for testing 
purposes.

Here is my GitHub page: https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD

It's pretty limited at the moment. It doesn't support sub-directories or any of 
the expanded TPDD features. In the future, I hope to add more features to it!

Try it out and let me know how it goes!

Thanks,
Jimmy.

Re: [M100] SD2TPDD Project

[Lee Olivares]

Nice work, I’ve been waiting for something to come along that would enable 
internal SD support ala uIEC on the C64.

I’ll have to see if a teensy plus an SD adapter would be the right combo for a 
compact setup, but I don’t see any conflicts right off the bat. 

Cheers!
- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 21, 2018, at 15:00, c646581  wrote:

Hello!

As several of you already know, I've been working on a TPDD emulator that runs 
on an Arduino Mega and uses an SD card for mass storage. I've gotten the 
emulator to the point where I feel comfortable releasing it for testing 
purposes.

Here is my GitHub page: https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD

It's pretty limited at the moment. It doesn't support sub-directories or any of 
the expanded TPDD features. In the future, I hope to add more features to it!

Try it out and let me know how it goes!

Thanks,
Jimmy.

Re: [M100] Got a DVI and rant about shipping

[Lee Olivares]

I’ll share mine: Rare Samsung N501 DVD player, one of three machines released 
in the states that are “Nuon” game systems. (Watch your local thrift stores!)

Bought, lost in the mail, tracking number never resolved, got money back 
through eBay but the hardware is simply lost in space. :(

Mailing a CRT though? Yikes. 

The typewriter guys also have some gnarly shipping stories: throw a 50lb 
Selectric in a cardboard box and hand it to USPS, see what happens. 

Which reminds me, there’s probably a niche market for plywood cut to be 
shipping bases for old Selectrics; nobody has packing material but that’s how 
the factory did it. 

What ever happened to those wood shipping crates filled with asbestos shavings 
like where those “top men” keep the arc of the covenant?
- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 14, 2018, at 14:47, Fugu ME100  wrote:

Sounds familiar I bought an M600 off eBay a few months ago.  The outer box
was really sturdy however the seller had just placed the unit on top of
two pieces of foam packing - it was free to move around the box.  The M600
is really heavy with the internal NiCd battery pack.  FedEx appear to have
them bounced it around all over the place,  it arrived as a 3D jigsaw in
about 70 pieces or so, mixed with chips and battery.  The seller offered
me a discount if I bought something else from their eBay store.

Ironically the LCD screen appears to be in near perfect condition it was
not damaged at all.

On 14/7/18, 1:46 PM, "M100 on behalf of Greg Swallow"
 wrote:

>  will have to joy you Jeff. I had purchased a VM-2 to complete my
> DVI setup (M100 + DVI (2x3.5inFDD) and it was DOA. VM-2 in a cardboard
> box and the packing material, a bit of tiny bubble wrap with most bubbles
> popped, did not even wrap around the monitor one time, just kind of
> thrown in with it. Cracks all over in near every corner, tube neck was
> snapped. Sent pictures to the eBay Seller with my complaint. "You can
> keep it," he said, "It's insured." Got my money back on it fine, but had
> to wait a couple of years for another VM-2 to hit eBay. Just got it last
> month. Guess I'll have to strip the first VM-2 for spares.
> 
> God Bless,
> 
> GregS <><
> 

Re: [M100] Legs for model 100

[Lee Olivares]

I did some research before, the feet of the original legs are found by
searching for the appropriate diameter "trivet feet", and the bar is just
appropriate diameter PTFE or Nylon bar stock cut to length.

Does that sound correct to the list? I don't have reference parts to get
the dimensions, but that's the gist.

I was gonna SCAD up a 3D model but it's a one liner:

rz=40; //rod length mm
rd=4; //rod diameter mm
cylinder(d=rd, h=rz);


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 - 909.437.0250
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Flow gmail 
wrote:

> Saw off 3" of the eraser end of a #2 lead pencil.  Pad if necessary with
> one inch wide paper tape.
>
> Gene Corrigan
> flowcharles...@gmail.com
> >>>175 Market Street, 407<<<
> Charleston SC 29401-691707
>
> +843.870.3235
>
> > On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:39 PM, David Laffineuse 
> wrote:
> >
> > Where can I find those or something equivalent?   I have a spare model
> 100 parts that I’d gladly trade.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Lee Olivares]

David, you're not alone in the confusion, I encourage you to document your
process going from zero to loaded program for others.

Basically you start by transferring a "DOS" to the M100, which can then
talk to the "Disk Servers" mentioned, bear in mind we're using DOS in a
literal sense, the M100 has no concept of operating a Disk Drive without a
Disk Operating System loaded.

Getting DOS loaded involves copying a DO file via hyper terminal/TELCOM
(you can't directly transfer CO files via TELCOM), which can then load the
DOS, I'm obviously paraphrasing but hopefully you see where I'm going.

   1. Transfer DOS "loader" DO file via serial terminal on PC and TELCOM on
   M100.
   2. Run the DOS "loader" to load DOS .CO on the M100.
   3. Run Disk Server on PC.
   4. Run DOS on M100 to access Disk Server.

Process is different when you can load DOS from ROM/REX, but I'm not that
cool.

(Laddie Alpha can inject TEENY DOS right? Or is it DLPlus?)


 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:21 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Your REX has TSDOS option rom, or you can add it. It is a disk client.
>
> You need to use it with a disk service. LaddieAlpha, mcomm, DLPlus,
> nadsbox (rare), a real Tandy Portable Disk Drive are some disk services you
> can pick from.
>
> — John.
>

Re: [M100] 8K RAM module

[Lee Olivares]

Drugstore 90% isopropyl “rubbing” alcohol. 

Just don’t go putting it on clear plastic lenses, clouds it right up! Plastic 
polish is the only cure. 

But rubbing alcohol is usually a good flux cleaner, that no-clean or water 
based flux is weird stuff though, stay away. Same with acid flux usually sold 
for plumbing, big no-no.

MG Chemicals Rosin Flux Pen 835-P has never done me wrong.

That and some good Kester 60/40 Pb solder and any old half functioning iron 
will set you straight, although why wouldn’t you just get an eBay $20 HAKO 
“Fake-o” 936? Great beaters and they take real HAKO tips and wands. 
- Lee

Re: [M100] Retrobrighting M100 cases (Paul Sussman)

[Lee Olivares]

I was responding to your inquest re: polishing the LCD lens; for the case your 
best bet is probably a retrobrite experiment!

Let us know how it goes!

- Lee 

On Apr 7, 2018, at 20:17, Paul Sussman  wrote:

I’ve looked at the M100 club website, and looked over the photos… however, I’m 
not sure what specific product to use to remove the yellow from the M100 case, 
and restore it to white (cream) again. Could someone help please?
 
Thanks!
 
Paul Sussman
 

Re: [M100] Club100 website issues

[Lee Olivares]

Lizardhill is still donating hosting services right?

 - Lee

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:

> Ken,
>
> If there's anything I can do to help let me know. I'm good with php and
> web servers.
>
> Thanks for everything.
>
> -Josh
>
> On Mar 5, 2018 4:40 PM, "Ken Pettit"  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Lizardhill migrated all domains to new servers this weekend and now there
>> are some links that no longer work and must be fixed.  They also upgraded
>> to PHP 7 and the Personal Libraries section seems not to work (they sent an
>> email indicating some users report compatibility issues between PHH 5 and
>> PHP 7 already).
>>
>> It will probalby take a few days to work through all the broken stuff.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>

Re: [M100] Printers

[Lee Olivares]

>
> So you just can't treat them as a tty, dump some text to the printer and
> have it print.


Actually most of the thermal doodads take ESCPOS which prints ascii serial.

You can literally spit text ascii text to it and it prints, if you want to
do fancy things, well then you can send ESCPOS commands to format bold and
even upload custom fonts and print bitmaps, using this code.

https://github.com/petrkutalek/png2pos
https://github.com/twg/png2escpos

I've been messing around with a ZJ-85 connected to USB on a WebDT 166
running LEDE/OpenWRT Reboot, but I'm literally just echo "hell world" >
/dev/usb/lp0

I've also tested against a Bixolon SRP-275.

ESCPOS is (duh) for POS units and is very forgiving.


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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> Printers is the one area where I have quite a bit of excess. I have three
> that I use. First is the wide carriage Citizen GSX-245 which was new in the
> box for $25. Quite a deal and I managed to pick up a bunch of ribbons for
> cheap! My old brother laser printer with a parallel port still gets a bit
> of use. But the printer I use the most is a Silver Reed 400 daisy wheel
> printer. Quite basic but the carbon ribbons are still available (though I
> have a stack of 10) and I managed to find 4 new replacement printwheels
> should I need them. It's slow and very loud but the output is nothing short
> of spectacular.
>
> All these go through a parallel switch that has a 64k buffer in it. I love
> the setup and use it regularly.
>
> Kurt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Anderson
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:39 PM
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] Printers
>
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > While attempting to write a decent 10-line BASIC game I became curious
> > about the printer emulation in Virtual T.  The next thing I know I'm
> > making fake dot-matrix printouts on my laser printer and I have to
> > admit I had more fun with it that was reasonable.  I even showed one
> > to my completely non-interested wife who was just happy that I was
> > entertained.
>
> Heh, I went through the exact same thing and totally failed to impress my
> kids with my laser-printed fake dot matrix printouts that I was positively
> giddy over...
>
> > Anyway, I find myself considering picking up an actual dot matrix
> > printer to go with my T102 just for the fun of it. Any recommendations?
> >  I'm also thinking of getting a CoCo at some point so I'd prefer one
> > with a serial interface.  I had an Epson RX-80 back in the day and I
> > don't want to hassle with a serial to parallel adapter again.  There
> > are a few DMP-130s on eBay that look okay but I'm wondering if anyone
> > has any experience.  Is it hard/expensive to find ribbons, etc?
>
> I got a DMP-105 along with the T200 I bought last year, and although
> replacement ribbons are not available for sale anywhere that I've found,
> the ribbon that was in it did print nicely for one trip through the
> cartridge and then faded out.  Popping the cartridge open I found the
> sponge roller had plenty of ink in it but had quite a flat spot from
> pressing against the transfer roller for decades and wouldn't rotate past
> the flat spot.  The sponge was also deteriorating and coming apart on my
> hands and work surface...
>
> I read some tips online for creating a replacement sponge roller but
> haven't got around to it yet... (I'd also need some appropriate ink to put
> in it, and I toyed with the idea of buying a different ribbon cartridge and
> modifying the sponge roller to fit mine)
>
> The DMP-105 has both the usual parallel socket as well as a round DIN
> serial socket which might be just what you want for a CoCo, I'm guessing.
> The ribbon problem might be a bit of a turn-off.  I've seen a few pass by
> on ebay for cheap, and there are three listed right now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> jim
>
>

Re: [M100] Portable computing mag 1986 uploading to Archive.org

[Lee Olivares]

Thanks for doing this, gives me the encouragement to get off my butt and
upload some scans to archive.org.

Any insight into your workflow?

Are you de-spining the mags and hand-scanning the pages on a platen or
feeding them through an ADF?

Thanks!


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On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Josh Malone  wrote:

> I don't have a collection for just these items (yet), but most of what
> I've uploaded is Tandy 100/102/200 docs, so just check my uploads at:
>
>   https://archive.org/details/@48kram
>
> There is an existing collections for Tandy/RS books at:
>
>   https://archive.org/details/tandy_books
>
> You have to be cool to be granted you own collection, and I'm not
> "cool" yet. Eventually I think we can qualify for a Model 100
> collection. I'll keep working on it.
>
> -Josh
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Kurt McCullum 
> wrote:
> > Thanks for doing this Josh. Can you post the links when you done.
> >
> > KurtOn Jan 26, 2018 1:21 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I number of years ago, I facilitated uploads of a large number of
> >> M100-focused documents to the Internet Archive. During a disk cleanup
> >> today, I discovered that my process was never completed, so I'm trying
> >> to finish it up.
> >>
> >> I'm working on the 1986 set of Portable Computing Mag right now. I may
> >> find others that I failed to upload as well.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the oversight.
> >>
> >> -Josh
>

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

[Lee Olivares]

Personally interested in a kit of parts and a flashed ROM if such an option
were to present itself.

I hit the form for a pair of units, since that's what I'd originally wanted
from the M100 store ages ago.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Daryl Tester <
dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:18:56 -0400, Josh Malone wrote:
>
> I'll send the form URL one more time in case it's gotten buried in
>> peoples' email
>>
>> https://goo.gl/forms/Kr4YgaskVhMCuzxz1
>>
>
> +1'd.  (and thanks for that Josh, it saved me having to find it).
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>   Daryl Tester
>   Handcrafted Computers Pty. Ltd.
>



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Re: [M100] OSHPark design tool

[Lee Olivares]

> which CAD package you prefer when sending to OSHPark.
I use Eagle but KiCAD should be fine too. 
- Lee 

[M100] YouTube Upload: Selling the Model 100

[Lee Olivares]

Bought this RadioShack in-store training VHS on eBay back in April but
finally got it cleaned up and uploaded.

Enjoy: https://youtu.be/l2TiKFBS3LY

The awkward "small package" cut at the very end is in the original video.

Re: [M100] Utility disk image from sector access

[Lee Olivares]

Am I to understand with this it will be feasible to DIY a Utility disk? If
so, how soon until we get a tutorial? ;)

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kurt McCullum 
wrote:

> Figured it out. There is indeed an ID field for every track. This is read
> by backup.ba before the track data is read. Then on the write portion of
> backup.ba, it is written back to the track before the data is laid down.
> The end result is a perfect copy that boots just as the original Utility
> disk.
>
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> *From:* M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
> McCullum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:06 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Utility disk image from sector access
>
>
>
> A bit too soon to declare total success. I can duplicate data disks
> without any issues. I can even duplicate the Utility disk. But even though
> the duplicate has all the same data, it won’t auto boot. So those extra
> save commands that I think play with the ID portion of the track are
> essential to creating a true duplicate of the Utility disk.
>
>
>
> I’ll get there but it’s going to take a bit to figure out the ID
> information.
>
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> *From:* M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Kurt McCullum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:13 AM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Utility disk image from sector access
>
>
>
> I’ll document what I’ve got John. The backup utility that uses floppy does
> some strange calls which I don’t understand at all. But, if one reads the
> tracks from 0 to 80 and then in turn writes them from 0 to 80, those calls
> are not needed.
>
>
>
> Backup does some extra reads to determine just how many sectors to copy
> instead of reading the entire disk. And there are some writes that I don’t
> understand at all. I suspect they have something to do with the ID of the
> sector but I’m not sure. Without a manual I’m just guessing.
>
>
>
> My utility is a simple brute force read of every track and then the same
> routine in reverse. Slow, but it works.
>
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> *From:* M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *John R. Hogerhuis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:36 AM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Utility disk image from sector access
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:24 AM Kurt McCullum 
> wrote:
>
> Success! I’ve got my utility reading AND writing TPDD2 disk images with
> the sector access commands. I’ve got a bit of cleanup and testing left to
> do and then I’ll put it in the members area.
>
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> Documentation on the sector access protocol would be good too :-)
>
>
>
> It's the one dark corner of tpdd2 protocol (that we know of).
>
>
>
> -- John.
>



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Re: [M100] Super ROM/legs

[Lee Olivares]

Not sure if I posted this link, there are seemingly two styles of feet, the
"magic wand" style appears to be slightly tapered vs the much more
common "turkey baster" style.

http://munk.org/typecast/2013/02/17/tilting-for-visibility-travel-typewriters-and-trs-80-model-100s/

I'll get back on scad later and crank out some dimensional models, minus
feet, and I'll do some looking to see if I can match the "turkey baster"
feet.

http://munk.org/typecast/2013/02/17/tilting-for-visibility-travel-typewriters-and-trs-80-model-100s/

The models are admittedly superfluous, but if you've got a printer already
or know someone who has one, why not save the trouble of having an extra
foot or two of PTFE bar-stock around. ;)

Still kind of love the cut pencils though, someone needs to post a pic of
that.

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Mark J. Blair  wrote:

>
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 09:52, Rob  wrote:
>
> ‎One more thought, I wonder if the rubber end caps were 11/32 to fit, or
> 5/16 to fit tight on the slick plastic.
>
>
> That sounds quite plausible.
>
>
> So the legs are cut from 11/32 rode. I'd said polyetheleyene, but as I
> recall now it's very slick material. I'm thinking now it's more likely PTFE
> rod.
>
>
> It definitely does not feel like PTFE to me. It's harder, less slippery,
> and differently colored than PTFE. It feels like delrin, or possibly
> glass-filled nylon to me. Now that I think about it, they do feel pretty
> dense to me. That's making me lean more towards thinking that they're a
> glass-filled plastic.
>
>
> The length was likely meant to be cut to 2-1/8, as your measurement is
> 1/64th short of that. That much could easily be lost with a quick buffing
> to smooth the ends.
>
>
> That sounds quite plausible. They may have been hand-cut, perhaps against
> an end stop that wasn't adjusted with extreme care... after all, they're
> just feet that appear to have been made as an afterthought to be crammed
> into existing screw hole counterbores.
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
> http://www.nf6x.net/
>
>


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Re: [M100] Super ROM/legs

[Lee Olivares]

On the legs, I just need measurements to produce a 3D model. 

The rubber feet are probably just trivet feet.

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- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 31, 2017, at 22:46, ray gordon <ray...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I don't remember who, but someone was just talking about legs. Could you donate 
them to someone who has access to a 3d scanner, so we can 3d print them from 
now on, instead of people eternally looking for them, and being unable to find 
them?




From: M100 <m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com> on behalf of Kurt McCullum 
<kurt.mccul...@att.net>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:01 PM
To: Model 100 Discussion
Subject: [M100] Super ROM/legs
 
Just received my latest eBay purchase. M100/TPDD2/Daisy wheel printer/legs and 
cables.

I needed the 100 to test an issue with mComm properly handling DTR/DSR. 
Apparently there is a slight difference between the 100 and 102. The rest of 
the hardware was a bonus.

But back to the reason for the email. I already have a set of legs and I prefer 
the SARDOS ROM so I'm not likely to use the Super ROM. If you are interested in 
either one, contact me off list. I will let them go cheap.

Kurt

Re: [M100] Virtual cassette idea

[Lee Olivares]

Jeez, storing a huge WAV file for the several hundred encoded bytes reminds
me of the cryo-flux approach to backing up floppies vs FC5025 which reads
floppies like floppies.

How about "encoding" the audio into a file, then playing the saved encoded
file back as audio?

More work for sure, not sure if it's even possible (seems like it should
be).

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Ron Lauzon  wrote:

> I'm running an idea through my head and I'd like to bounce it off you guys.
>
> The idea is to create a virtual cassette recorder/player.  Possibly
> for my T102, but also for the pocket computers that I have.
>
> I've found this
> (https://www.tindie.com/products/masihvahida/audio-
> stereo-sound-player--recorder-module/)
> which is pretty much done.  I would just have to hook up an RS-232
> shifter and sacrifice a cassette cable for my T102.
>
> I've also found this
> (https://www.tindie.com/products/masihvahida/soundduino--audio-shield-for-
> arduino/)
> that I'd have to do my own programming for as well as add an Arduino.
> This one also has normal 3.5mm jacks, so no cable sacrifice needed.
>
> The idea would be that I could use CSAVE and record a WAV file onto
> the SD card and use CLOAD to read it back in when I wanted.  I've seen
> this offered as a way to load software for pocket computers using
> their cassette interface and the sound inputs/outputs on a PC.
>
> --
> Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org
>Homepage: http://webpages.charter.net/rlauzon/
>Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/
>
> TRS-80 Model 1 Level II -> Commodore PET -> TRS-80 PC-4 -> Computer
> Science Degree -> Intel MS-DOS -> IBM MVS/TSO/VM -> HP 1000/RTE-A ->
> IBM RISC/AIX -> Intel Windows/Linux -> Raspberry Pi Debian -> Arduino
> -> Tandy 102.I think I've come full circle.
>



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Re: [M100] Model T upgrades

[Lee Olivares]

I think we could probably find the actual rubber feet or a contemporary
equivalent, it's even easier than I thought...with measurement vars it's
like 3 lines of code.

Looks like this page shows two different styles, one is tapered so it
probably doesn't fall out as easily.

http://munk.org/typecast/2013/02/17/tilting-for-visibility-travel-typewriters-and-trs-80-model-100s/

I have no originals but I've wanted a set, someone get me measurements and
I'll crank it out.

//taper style
toin=25.4;
height=2*toin;
topdia=.30*toin;
botdia=.20*toin;

cylinder(h=height, d1=topdia, d2=botdia, $fn=24);

//straight style
toin=25.4;
height=2*toin;
dia=.20*toin;

cylinder(h=height, d=dia, $fn=24);

I cut the eraser end off a couple of pencils. The erasers are non-skid
> (bonus!).

I actually kind of like this idea...if you give them a dull point maybe
you'll have a pair of ready backups in case your batteries die.
[image: Inline image 1]

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Lee Olivares <l...@braains.net> wrote:

> I'm messing around in OpenSCAD today, this thing is probably the most
> trivial thing ever to crank out --  <20 LoC -- if someone can supply
> accurate dimensions and a reference picture.
>
> OpenSCAD = naturally parametric so you can "dial a height" just by
> twiddling a variable.
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Peter Vollan <dprogra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Don't think you can find the model 100 legs, but you can make your
>> own. Someone should make a .cad file so we can 3d print them
>>
>>
>> On 28 July 2017 at 11:06, Robert Prather <robert.s.prat...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Just got a Model 100 off of eBay. If I'd known of the Club 100 site, I'd
>> > have purchased one there. There's some yellow on this one, but the
>> memory
>> > appears maxed out (installed internally), so wasn't a bad find overall.
>> >
>> > I've used a color computer 2 for years, and love it, and decided to try
>> out
>> > the Model 100. Love it so far.
>> >
>> > From the Club 100 site, I saw that there used to be NADSBox's available
>> as
>> > well as REX modules.
>> >
>> > I'm emailing to find out if it's still possible to purchase these? I'm
>> also
>> > trying to track down the little legs that can prop up the Model 100.
>> >
>> > I'd really appreciate any help anyone can provide. I didn't want to try
>> > ordering from the Club 100 site, because I wanted a confirmation before
>> I
>> > did.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> >
>> > Robert
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>  - Lee
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>  - Destroying technology problems.
>



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Re: [M100] Model T upgrades

[Lee Olivares]

I'm messing around in OpenSCAD today, this thing is probably the most
trivial thing ever to crank out --  <20 LoC -- if someone can supply
accurate dimensions and a reference picture.

OpenSCAD = naturally parametric so you can "dial a height" just by
twiddling a variable.

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Peter Vollan  wrote:

> Don't think you can find the model 100 legs, but you can make your
> own. Someone should make a .cad file so we can 3d print them
>
>
> On 28 July 2017 at 11:06, Robert Prather 
> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just got a Model 100 off of eBay. If I'd known of the Club 100 site, I'd
> > have purchased one there. There's some yellow on this one, but the memory
> > appears maxed out (installed internally), so wasn't a bad find overall.
> >
> > I've used a color computer 2 for years, and love it, and decided to try
> out
> > the Model 100. Love it so far.
> >
> > From the Club 100 site, I saw that there used to be NADSBox's available
> as
> > well as REX modules.
> >
> > I'm emailing to find out if it's still possible to purchase these? I'm
> also
> > trying to track down the little legs that can prop up the Model 100.
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any help anyone can provide. I didn't want to try
> > ordering from the Club 100 site, because I wanted a confirmation before I
> > did.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Robert
>



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Re: [M100] Since we are playing guess the project...

[Lee Olivares]

> I checked that website out ... The interface isn't very clear on what I 
> should push. 
User friendly is not one of their strong points; they skimp on UX and pass the 
savings on to you!

> Is this your website, or were you plugging it for someone else?

Not my site, but got our alien flight boards in-hand within 2 weeks for a O_o 
price.

My OSH order was fine too, but it's purple or nothing with those guys. :/

> Also, I tried to submit an STL file for a 3D printing 
Huh, I haven't used their 3D printing service but I'd guess you could repair 
the STL either with Cura or go crazy and import the mesh with OpenSCAD and then 
export another STL, it's already a mesh so you're not losing any geometry.

I don't know what program produces non-manifold files but it's common when 
printing random STLs of unknown pedigree. 
- Lee 
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 17, 2017, at 18:06, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Lee,

I checked that website out ... seems fairly hard to understand how to submit a 
board for quote.  The interface isn't very clear on what I should push.  Is 
this your website, or were you plugging it for someone else?

Also, I tried to submit an STL file for a 3D printing quote, but the online 
quoting system couldn't figure out the volume from the STL file.  This is the 
same STL file I used just 2 weeks ago to get some parts printed at another site 
with no issues.

Ken

> On 7/17/17 5:10 PM, Lee Olivares wrote:
> Plug for dirtypcbs.com, super cheap, fast, and swank custom board colors.
> 
> Here's my bro assembling a nifty super thin yellow PCB for a micro-quad. 
> Birth of AlienFlight - YouTube
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Toying around with the idea.  Just ordered 3 of these from OSHPark ... 
>> boards due in a week or so.
>> 
>> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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Re: [M100] Since we are playing guess the project...

[Lee Olivares]

Plug for dirtypcbs.com, super cheap, fast, and swank custom board colors.

Here's my bro assembling a nifty super thin yellow PCB for a micro-quad. Birth
of AlienFlight - YouTube 

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Ken Pettit  wrote:

> Toying around with the idea.  Just ordered 3 of these from OSHPark ...
> boards due in a week or so.
>
> Ken
>



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Re: [M100] Molex part number

[Lee Olivares]

>
> you can probably just submit it right to shapeways and get a few printed.

Negative, STL is your go-to 3D interchange format.

Shapeways accepts designs in STL, OBJ, X3D, DAE, Collada or VRML97/2
> (WRL).[0]


[0]: https://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/supported-applications/

I advise learning OpenSCAD for any *new* 3D modeling that isn't "organic"
in nature, as it allows for non-destructive revisions and parametric
functionality within the model and you can always export an STL mesh for
printing or importing to inferior CAD softwares.

Plus for this crowd, CAD as code is *really* cool!

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Brian White  wrote:

> I think that file is probably good to go where you can probably just
> submit it right to shapeways and get a few printed.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Brian White  wrote:
>
>> First, tandy.wiki had crashed. It's back up now.
>>
>> Next, from my notes...
>> Molex 50-39-5288 (78802-10)
>> EBY 9775-548-28
>>
>> Molex 15-41-3281 (A78805-0418) or 15-29-9282 (A78805-0518)
>>
>> And I don't seem to have those files up on google drive after all. They
>> must be on the laptop I was using at home to work on m100/102/600 stuff.
>> The stuff was kind of hard to find, not directly linked anywhere, but I
>> found it through some indirect searching from datasheetarchive, from
>> archived copies of removed listings, which contained other part numbers to
>> search for, and links in pdfs to other pdfs which no longer had links
>> anywhere, but if you somehow magically knew the right url, it still worked.
>> Some stuff all you could get was
>>
>> There are several different versions of the same socket & carrier, with
>> different combinations of keying slots and tabs. So, you could have 10
>> different sockets that take 10 different chips, and the sockets would all
>> be different colors and they would each have different slots & tabs shapes
>> so that you couldn't put the wrong chip in the wrong socket, as well as
>> putting the chip in backwards.
>> I'll Have to check my other laptop later when I get home from work.
>>
>> For now, I found this:
>> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex-connector-
>> corporation/50-39-5288/50-39-5288-ND/119885?WT.z_cid=ref_
>> findchips_standard
>>
>> That has one of the cad files, and that .stm file loads up and looks good
>> in FreeCAD!
>> Install FreeCAD
>> File menu > New
>> View menu > Workbench > Part
>> Part menu > Import CAD...
>> (select the .stm file)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Kurt McCullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone happen to know the Molex part number that the OptRom uses
>>> for inserts? I'm reffering to the part that the PROM wraps around and is
>>> inserted into the OpeRom socket.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Re: [M100] Virtual T

[Lee Olivares]

Having experience with the EeePC models I'd advise to go with the 10" models 
for typing comfort. 

The 901E is my favorite but I often wish I had a 1000E. :)

- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jul 7, 2017, at 06:12, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com> wrote:

In fact, 5 or 6 years ago I did some of the Virtual-T code development on my 
Asus Eee PC laptop because I wanted a native Windows platform (as opposed to 
running a Windows virtual machine on my Macbook Pro).  So I know for a fact it 
will run this machine.

Ken

> On 7/7/17 5:23 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
> Virtual-T would run fine on that machine.
> 
>  
> 
> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of dano
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 4:38 AM
> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> Subject: [M100] Virtual T
> 
>  
> 
> I was looking at purchasing a dedicated machine to run Virtual T on.
> 
>  
> 
> I'm wondering if a something like this would work:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Asus-Eee-PC-Seashell-Series-10-1-Netbook-Laptop-/332293861463?hash=item4d5e41f057:g:~KoAAOSw-29ZXagS
> 
> 
> 
> Red Asus Eee PC Seashell Series 10.1" Netbook Laptop | eBay
> 
> www.ebay.com
> 
> Pre owned in great condition well cared for. Original stickers on it user 
> manual Proceeds go to sending care packages to sailors serving with my son on 
> the USS Abraham Lincoln. | eBay!
> 
>  
> 
> It's got an atom processor and 1GB of memory and windows 7 starter..
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Outlook
> 

Re: [M100] NEC 8201A Ram

[Lee Olivares]

>
> not at all. All the modules use the Batten & Allen "IC pin replacements"

Hey I'd never seen these "pin replacements", probably not what you're
referring to, but in a similar vein:

http://www.dasarodesigns.com/product/batten-and-allen-ba3760-dill-leadframe-dip-pcb-edge-clip-pins/


Overall definitely a better idea than socketing full strip headers, which I
was never exceedingly happy about.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Francesco Messineo <
francesco.messi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Brian White  wrote:
> > Wow those sure look perfect. Especially that last one because it uses
> easy
> > to source pin headers for legs.
>
> not at all. All the modules use the Batten & Allen "IC pin
> replacements". There's no room (at least into the Olivetti M10) to use
> standard pin strips, the vertical clearance isn't enough.
>
> Frank
> >
> > --
> > bkw
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2017 3:13 AM, "Francesco Messineo" <
> francesco.messi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> I'm new to this list, I've been just reading for a while.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Brian White  wrote:
> >> > 102 is easy. 100 is not so easy.
> >> >
> >> > There was a guy in Romania selling NEC branded modules dirt cheap last
> >> > year
> >> > but those are gone now. Or at least they're not on ebay any more. They
> >> > weren't labeled for model-100, I just found them by searching for the
> >> > main
> >> > chip number, took a chance, and they turned out to not only fit but
> also
> >> > work. Maybe I should save his info before I lose track of it, in case
> he
> >> > does still have some.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe modules for 100 are another good candidate for an open OSH Park
> >> > design
> >> > that people can build new on-demand. The basic wiring for adapting to
> >> > some
> >> > more common chips is well documented.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I've made many RAM modules replacement for the Olivetti M10 (and all
> >> the other compatibles) for some friends that asked for batches of
> >> them.
> >> Here's how one module looks like inside my M10:
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwyjg7p22c8xt5t/IMG_1484.JPG?dl=0
> >>
> >> I've developed also a custom setup to test the modules outside the M10
> >> (socket was getting
> >> worn out during my prototype tests):
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/38q01n8gckuz3of/IMG_1906.JPG?dl=0
> >>
> >> And here's one of the batches I've made for an italian collector:
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c5zes6lgevdkz2n/IMG_0266.JPG?dl=0
> >>
> >> And here's another version of the module with slightly different logic
> >> to use different SRAM
> >> chips:
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1p9tz1jgirbfaee/IMG_1601.JPG?dl=0
> >>
> >> The test setup include different address and block tests and also a
> >> standby current measurement as these modules must not draw more than
> >> 2-4 uA during standby conditions to allow the memory battery backup
> >> last a reasonable amount of time.
> >> Most of the modules settle to much less than 1 uA standby current. A
> >> few ones went up to 1 uA. The original modules can draw up to 4 uA in
> >> standby mode.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Frank IZ8DWF
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > bkw
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 5, 2017 10:29 AM, "Jason Benson" 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I want to fix the 8201A but I haven't had any luck yet determining
> the
> >> >> cause of the trouble. (see other thread about internal NiCd
> batteries)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Josh Malone 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What happened to the 8201A? It might be more beneficial to just
> repair
> >> >>> that.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I can tell you from experience that SRAMs for the model-T are easy
> to
> >> >>> come by. (I recently replaced a RAM chip in my 102 w/ parts from
> ebay)
> >> >>> No
> >> >>> reason to scavenge other machines for these parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -Josh
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Jason Benson
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>  My 8201A that died the first time I tried to use it has a full set
> of
> >>  ram expansions. Are those ram expansions usable in any of the other
> >>  computers from the M100 family? I imagine the NEC PC 8300 probably
> >>  uses the
> >>  same chips, but probably not the M100/102.
> >>  -Jason
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
>



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 - Lee
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Re: [M100] Battery backpack on eBay

[Lee Olivares]

Whatever it is, it sold for $850.

o_0
- Lee 

Re: [M100] MUD

[Lee Olivares]

Same here, let us know Jim.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Lucas Roberts 
wrote:

> Jim I am interested in dialing in.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Jim Williams  wrote:
> >
> > A long time ago, for a short while, I ran a Smaug-based MUD server.
> >
> > I didn't have time to do what I wanted with it.
> >
> > I've got the source and executable and (I think) some tools for it.
> > I've been thinking of maybe rebuilding an old computer and setting Smaug
> > up on it, try to customize it and format it for the Model T's screen.
> >
> > But, would anyone be interested in playing it if I did so? I can't
> > promise that I'll have the time this time to customize it as I want to,
> > but I'll try maintaining it if people are interested in playing it. I
> > think people here are more tinkerers than gamers, but I'm not going to
> > pretend that my perception is reality. If someone were interested in
> > writing up a custom mud client, it might be a project people would be
> > interested in. I was thinking of working on one, but more knowledgeable
> > people than me have already worked up communications programs (like
> > hterm) for the Model T.
> >
> > It may be a month or two before I get it set up and going (I may need to
> > get some parts for that PC) but let me know if anyone would be
> > interested in "dialing in" with their Model T. If so, I'll give the
> > project a higher priority than it has now.
> >
>



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Re: [M100] Wifi232 Arrived (how can I power it?)

[Lee Olivares]

>
> What I'm wanting to know is if it's possible to connect it to a cell phone
> battery backup device?

Yes.

cool trivia: Paul Rickards' business card is included in the box, and it
> looks like an old-fashioned punch card.

It's not actually a punch card? Gosh, Paul is cheaping out these days! ;)

 - Lee

[M100] Battery backpack on eBay

[Lee Olivares]

Interesting ROM board and a battery backpack/kickstand on this M100 listing 
today:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/172747974546 

Everything looks normal until pic 4, what are we looking at here?

- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.

Re: [M100] Game idea - Tapper / Walnut Bowling

[Lee Olivares]

Sounds cool, start with some graph paper mockups of the game play action
and screens, then start coding up some basic!

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Jim Williams  wrote:

> I was thinking that a tapper-like game might be doable on the M100,
> suiting its wide screen.
>
> Then the other day I was playing Plants Vs Zombies, doing one of the
> miniquests; "Walnut Bowling".
>
> You start on the left side of the screen releasing walnuts. Zombies
> attack from the right side of the screen.
>
> There are... I dunno... 8 lanes, maybe? You bowl the Walnuts down to
> take out the zombies. The nut ricochets around taking out multiple
> zombies, sometimes.
>
> I have a feeling that could be adapted to a game for the M100...
>
>
>


-- 

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
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Re: [M100] HOOT.BA on rom

[Lee Olivares]

EME was also responsible for the ROMBO adapters, or was it MOMBO?

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:04 PM, John Gardner  wrote:

> I believe the OWL hardware & firmware were done by Tracy
>
> Allen at EME Systems.   A polite request to Dr. Allen for info
>
> might get a response.
>
> i...@emesystems.com
>
>  ...
>
>
> On 6/19/17, Ken Pettit  wrote:
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > That is an interesting find.  Makes me wonder what things people will
> > dig up 50, 100 or even 1000 years from now and say "Hmm, wonder what
> > this was for?"
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On 6/19/17 8:19 AM, Brian White wrote:
> >> Encountered an odd one this weekend. A custom option rom that says
> >> HOOT.BA  on it's label, and uses the *elegant* EME
> >> Systems 27C256 option rom adapter.
> >>
> >> When you run it (using either the 2 lines on the label or the standard
> >> "CALL 63012") It launches into some program, but doesn't leave any .co
> >> or .ba installed in the main menu. It does leave a couple of .do, but
> >> they seem to be data for the program, not documents.
> >>
> >> Reading the various strings in the rom, it seems to be some kind of
> >> weather monitoring util. It mentions something called OWL or OWL2 a
> >> lot, looks like it has support to use a RAMPAC, and connects to
> >> something on a pc via serial cable (called an owl cable), and can dial
> >> up something with the modem and upload something via xmodem, which in
> >> turn implies there's an xmodem implementation in there somewhere.
> >>
> >> It looks like a very special-purpose thing, that's for sure.
> >>
> >> I dumped the rom and disassembled the package to get some clear pics
> >> of the EME adapter.
> >>
> >> ROM
> >> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bys6eLbSbYyhdTFIR2ZXNENrRkE
> >>
> >> EME adapter
> >> https://goo.gl/photos/AaqKUGoY6oGEZdxM6
> >>
> >> --
> >> bkw
> >
> >
>



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 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.

Re: [M100] Level 29 BBS

[Lee Olivares]

@eltoozero here, I started a draft menu system composed on the M100 but got 
side-tracked when we couldn't device a good method for switching the menu 
without running a separate BBS. 

I did assist in the effort to locate the SBBS code that "limits" the rows to 
>10; that got us to the point where this is an option. 

Here's the WIP menu: https://twitter.com/eltoozero/status/876515599643365376

Looks like we're aiming for 32cols...

- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.


On Jun 17, 2017, at 20:41, Jim Williams <hira...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I know some people have been looking for BBSes to dial into that support 
the M100 display.

I was just on twitter when Level 29 BBS was having a contest; the 5th 
person to *dial in* to the BBS would get a free TRON sticker.

I followed the link to their website in the description, and it even has 
a web-based terminal to access the BBS with.

I tweeted a reply, asking if they supported the 40 x 8 display of the 
M100, and they replied, "@eltoozero was working on that".

So maybe soon there will be a bbs supporting the M100's display, and 
maybe even they can be convinced to create a message area dedicated to 
the M100.

Here's a link to the website: http://bbs.fozztexx.com/
You might want to share with them your interest in using your M100 with 
their BBS, it might provide incentive.

For those on twitter, here's a link to the tweet: 
https://twitter.com/Level29_BBS/status/876257891837108225

Re: [M100] Anyone have a source for the m100 phone-modem cable?

[Lee Olivares]

I ordered these for some cables for the C64 AV port, and IIRC one of them
fit, I just can't remember which...if you can't figure it out I can grab
them from the garage and test fit.

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-inc/SD-60/CP-1060-ND/96999
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-inc/SD-80/CP-1080-ND/97003
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-inc/SD-50/CP-1050-ND/96997

If it's the "U" shaped DIN instead of the circular oriented pins you'll
have to pull out some pins with a pair of pliers, I seem to recall the top
pins DID need to be pulled but there were duplicate pins for those
connections, I don't have the pinout in front of me.

Hopefully this helps, if you get stuck let me know.

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:14 PM, user evers  wrote:

> I just realized that the 8 pin plug on my phone/modem port is
> non-standard. (yeah, old eyes are beginning to fail)
>
> Anyone know of a source for these?
>
> I am half tempted to remake a plug, but, getting the pins lined up and
> then having the ground/shell where its supposed to be can be a real chore.
> [Did this for an old Yaesu radio and it works, but, its not fun and it can
> make a person nervous as the epoxy sets]
>



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 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
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Re: [M100] Removing scratches from plastic protector for LCD?

[Lee Olivares]

re: paint, another cool old C100 link comes to mind: complete with old B pics 
(and one color pic) of a black painted M100 that apparently had other mods 
including a tilting screen and overclocked CPU.

Great story too. 

http://www.club100.org/stories/02/feature.html
- Lee

[M100] Model 100 in the collection of Walt Mossberg

[Lee Olivares]

Walt Mossberg is retiring from tech journalism and has published an article 
highlighting several 'iconic' items from his personal collection, including the 
venerable Model 100!

Shame his machine is missing a key, someone should help him out. ;)

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/6/12/15779450/walt-mossberg-original-iphone-ibm-thinkpad-amazon-kindle-video

- Lee 

Re: [M100] Removing scratches from plastic protector for LCD?

[Lee Olivares]

Richard Hanson, RIP, has his process on the Club100 page for restoring the 
screen protector to like new condition: 
http://www.club100.org/stories/05/feature.html

I've used one or two of those plastic polishing products in the past, they are 
the real deal.

Miss you Rick. :'(
- Lee 


On Jun 12, 2017, at 18:30, John Gardner  wrote:

...Retrobright...

I've heard it both ways - What's the right way,  Mike?

...

Re: [M100] Game idea

[Lee Olivares]

That is extremely impressive Ken, fantastic work.

I wonder if there are so more M100's remaining "in the wild" since it
doesn't *look* like a normal "laptop"; I imagine many M200's were
unceremoniously tossed just for looking like "an old laptop".

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.



On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Ken Pettit  wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> After integrating AsciiPixels into TextSweeper, it got me thinking about
> another game idea using AsciiPixels.  I spent a few hours coding up a BASIC
> program on the T200 (using VirtualT) to get an idea if it would work / how
> it would look.  It could be coded for M100 also by scrolling and showing
> only half of the screen (upper or lower) at a time.
>
> Written in BASIC, it is a bit slow, but was okay for "proof of concept".
> Plus BASIC doesn't require 2x the RAM like .CO files to (one copy for the
> .CO and another for the HIMEM location where it gets loaded).  Maybe a full
> .CO implementation is the way to go? Currently the implementation has only
> the ability to build and display the board and no logic for choosing or
> removing pieces. Also, the board build logic is purely random with no
> attempt to add game theory for determining if there is a winning solution.
> This would all need to be added.  The BASIC program is currenly 42 lines
> long (with multiple statements per line) and is about 2K in size, plus
> another 1300 bytes for AsciiPixels resources in a separate .DO file.
>
> Anyway, I though I would share a screen capture of what I have and see if
> there is any feedback on interest level.  And yes, I intentionally didn't
> say what type of game so that you can discover it by watching the video:
>
> http://www.kenpettit.com/tj.mov
>
> Let me know
> Ken
>
>

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

[Lee Olivares]

Thanks MIke! Your clarifications are most appreciated!

I assume a tokenized .BA file either wont open at all or be "garbled" when
opened in notepad or vi whereas a proper plain-text .DO or .BA will be
readable.

several low-cost methods of putting TS-DOS into a ROM

This is reckon is the "next level" once a new user is familiar enough with
getting files in/out and establishing connectivity to a TPDD "server".

What are the .lst files on the HTERM page? I assume those are assembler
listings? Turbo Assembler? (total guess here).

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.



On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Mike Stein <mhs.st...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not to be too pedantic, but putting .BA and .DO files together might be a
> little misleading. A 'real' .BA file can not be successfully transferred
> using terminal programs unless you also load something like xmodem etc.,
> and has to be transferred in the same way as .CO files.
>
> So I would say '...Plain-text .BA and .DO files transfers using Telcom'
> and '...using dlplus to transfer .CO and tokenized .BA files'.
>
> In the old Compuserve etc. days when binary transfers over a modem were
> not available, it was the custom to rename the plaintext .DO to
> .BA to distinguish it from actual .DO document files; before
> actually loading them into the ModelT they would have to be renamed to
> .DO
>
> But a 'real' .BA file such as what you get when you SAVE a program is a
> tokenized binary file which can in fact corrupt the file system if you try
> to load it as a text file.
>
> So, unless you already know, it's a good idea to inspect a .BA file first
> to see if it's plain text or tokenized. If it's plain text it must be
> loaded into the ModelT with a .DO extension; if it's tokenized it (and also
> .CO files) will have to be transferred using a binary-compatible method
> such as TEENY, TS-DOS, XMODEM etc. with a suitable 'server' at the other
> end.
>
> Again, LaddieAlpha handles the conversion if necessary.
>
> Note that there are several low-cost methods of putting TS-DOS into a ROM,
> effectively adding it to the OS.
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lee Olivares <l...@braains.net>
> *To:* Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 1:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif
> Serial to USB
>
> I'd be happy to create a "bootstrap" page on the bitchin100 wiki to go
> into the details I initially got hung up on:
>
>  - Initial serial null modem connection and testing using screen (*nix)
> hyperterminal (win) and telcom.
>  - BA/DO transfers using telcom & screen/minicom.
>  - Loading DOS (TEENY or TSDOS) using above.
>  - Using DOS to access dlplus or laddieconalpha to xfer .CO files.
>
> Logically then it should explain .CO file management, I can summarize the
> excellent guidance provided on the list last week.
>
> And while we're at it some DOS basics like the Load (from),Save (to), and
> "Kill" which wasn't an obvious "delete" command to this novice. :)
>
>  - Lee
>  - 909.437.0250 <(909)%20437-0250>
>  - Destroying technology problems.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Roger Mullins <km4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've never played around with HTERM but I think I might after this
>> thread. :-) Maybe fire up Lynx and do some web surfing on my M100.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Lee Olivares <l...@braains.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If using minicom to move over BA/DO files be sure to do ASCII transfers,
>>> unless you've loaded sxm.100 or another XMODEM compatible telcom
>>> enhancement that is.
>>>
>>>  - Lee
>>>  - 909.437.0250 <(909)%20437-0250>
>>>  - Destroying technology problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Mike Stein <mhs.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think what we need is a video showing TS-DOS (preferably in ROM) or
>>>> mcomm in action; I don't know why anyone would want to fool with terminal
>>>> programs these days (especially at 300 baud ;-) with so many better
>>>> alternatives around unless there were a special reason.
>>>>
>>>> As John pointed out, LaddieAlpha (the 'server')works with all three
>>>> platforms.
>>>>
>>>> For actually logging into a 'NIX system (as opposed to transferring
>>>> file) HTERM is a Telcom replacement that uses hardware handshaking to get
>>>> around XON/XOFF issues (and run faster).
>>>>
>>

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

[Lee Olivares]

I'd be happy to create a "bootstrap" page on the bitchin100 wiki to go into
the details I initially got hung up on:

 - Initial serial null modem connection and testing using screen (*nix)
hyperterminal (win) and telcom.
 - BA/DO transfers using telcom & screen/minicom.
 - Loading DOS (TEENY or TSDOS) using above.
 - Using DOS to access dlplus or laddieconalpha to xfer .CO files.

Logically then it should explain .CO file management, I can summarize the
excellent guidance provided on the list last week.

And while we're at it some DOS basics like the Load (from),Save (to), and
"Kill" which wasn't an obvious "delete" command to this novice. :)

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.



On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Roger Mullins <km4...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've never played around with HTERM but I think I might after this thread.
> :-) Maybe fire up Lynx and do some web surfing on my M100.
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Lee Olivares <l...@braains.net> wrote:
>
>> If using minicom to move over BA/DO files be sure to do ASCII transfers,
>> unless you've loaded sxm.100 or another XMODEM compatible telcom
>> enhancement that is.
>>
>>  - Lee
>>  - 909.437.0250 <(909)%20437-0250>
>>  - Destroying technology problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Mike Stein <mhs.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think what we need is a video showing TS-DOS (preferably in ROM) or
>>> mcomm in action; I don't know why anyone would want to fool with terminal
>>> programs these days (especially at 300 baud ;-) with so many better
>>> alternatives around unless there were a special reason.
>>>
>>> As John pointed out, LaddieAlpha (the 'server')works with all three
>>> platforms.
>>>
>>> For actually logging into a 'NIX system (as opposed to transferring
>>> file) HTERM is a Telcom replacement that uses hardware handshaking to get
>>> around XON/XOFF issues (and run faster).
>>>
>>> BTW, AFAIK you can't transfer 'real' .BA files with terminal programs or
>>> the method below, only plain text .DO versions (although of course they may
>>> be confusingly mislabelled as .BA) That's caused a lot of confusion and
>>> crashes if they're not renamed during the transfer (although I believe
>>> LaddieAlpha also takes care of that issue.)
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Roger Mullins <km4...@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 10:59 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables,
>>> specif Serial to USB
>>>
>>> That cable should work fine for you - all I do is go into BASIC on the
>>> M100 and type
>>>
>>> new
>>> load"com:38n1e"
>>>
>>> ...then launch minicom on my Linux box and use 'send file' and select
>>> the .BA (or whatever) file that I've downloaded.  Actually I just realized
>>> I've never tried it in reverse but I suppose that would work as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Roger
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Paul Bucalo <pm...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roger, what I want to accomplish at this time is what you are doing. I
>>>> download a slew of programs from old archives and I haven't a means of
>>>> getting them into my M100 with the hardware I have now. Today I will order
>>>> the Belkin cable. At $2 bucks and shipping it's worth having around.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate all the comments and suggestions offered up here.
>>>> Resurrecting my M100 is totally about spending time in the past. I don't
>>>> need this to work for any project or importance. The M100 was my first
>>>> working computer. It was the late 80s. I was a Property and Casualty
>>>> Insurance Agent in a small agency, looking for an automated means of
>>>> contact management. It worked. It worked well. So I look forward to playing
>>>> around with the options given. It's not the destination that I look forward
>>>> to, but how much I can learn on the way there. Forward to the Past! :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Roger Mullins <km4...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com>
>>>> Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 3:11 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Ca

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

[Lee Olivares]

If using minicom to move over BA/DO files be sure to do ASCII transfers,
unless you've loaded sxm.100 or another XMODEM compatible telcom
enhancement that is.

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.



On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Mike Stein  wrote:

> I think what we need is a video showing TS-DOS (preferably in ROM) or
> mcomm in action; I don't know why anyone would want to fool with terminal
> programs these days (especially at 300 baud ;-) with so many better
> alternatives around unless there were a special reason.
>
> As John pointed out, LaddieAlpha (the 'server')works with all three
> platforms.
>
> For actually logging into a 'NIX system (as opposed to transferring file)
> HTERM is a Telcom replacement that uses hardware handshaking to get around
> XON/XOFF issues (and run faster).
>
> BTW, AFAIK you can't transfer 'real' .BA files with terminal programs or
> the method below, only plain text .DO versions (although of course they may
> be confusingly mislabelled as .BA) That's caused a lot of confusion and
> crashes if they're not renamed during the transfer (although I believe
> LaddieAlpha also takes care of that issue.)
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Roger Mullins 
> *To:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 10:59 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif
> Serial to USB
>
> That cable should work fine for you - all I do is go into BASIC on the
> M100 and type
>
> new
> load"com:38n1e"
>
> ...then launch minicom on my Linux box and use 'send file' and select the
> .BA (or whatever) file that I've downloaded.  Actually I just realized I've
> never tried it in reverse but I suppose that would work as well.
>
>
> -Roger
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Paul Bucalo  wrote:
>
>> Roger, what I want to accomplish at this time is what you are doing. I
>> download a slew of programs from old archives and I haven't a means of
>> getting them into my M100 with the hardware I have now. Today I will order
>> the Belkin cable. At $2 bucks and shipping it's worth having around.
>>
>> I appreciate all the comments and suggestions offered up here.
>> Resurrecting my M100 is totally about spending time in the past. I don't
>> need this to work for any project or importance. The M100 was my first
>> working computer. It was the late 80s. I was a Property and Casualty
>> Insurance Agent in a small agency, looking for an automated means of
>> contact management. It worked. It worked well. So I look forward to playing
>> around with the options given. It's not the destination that I look forward
>> to, but how much I can learn on the way there. Forward to the Past! :)
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Roger Mullins 
>> To: Model 100 Discussion 
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 3:11 am
>> Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif
>> Serial to USB
>>
>> Right, that's what it takes for minicom to work properly. My distro is
>> actually a hard drive install of Puppy - I have an ancient HP laptop and
>> Puppy was the only one that could find my particular Broadcom wireless
>> adapter.
>>
>> Anyhow, that cable works great for no more than I do with it, which is
>> basically transferring downloaded files to my M100.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Daryl Tester 
>> Date: 04/27/2017 9:06 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif
>> Serial to USB
>>
>> Roger wrote:
>>
>> > I also use Linux, running minicom to communicate with my M100 on
>> >  ttyd0.  From the command line:
>> >
>> > rm /dev/ttyd0
>> > ln -s ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyd0
>> > minicom
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:33:59 -0400, Paul Bucalo wrote:
>>
>> > You said you are also using Linux. What flavor of Linux are you
>> > running that uses ttyd instead of ttyS for serial devices? I only
>> > know
>> > of BSD/*nix that uses that device designation.
>>
>> I think he's done that for minicom default reasons, not Linux reasons.
>> You can override it (of course) to point at whatever device you like,
>> the caveat being that USB serial devices tend to dynamically jump all
>> over the place (unless there is some udev magic).
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>Daryl Tester
>>Handcrafted Computers Pty. Ltd.
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] Building T100 hardware

[Lee Olivares]

> Interseting tagline for someone who plays with Model 100's  ;)
You think most of the junk these kids got today is gonna last 30 years?

Not without a bunch of iCloud errors I'd bet. :)
- Lee

Re: [M100] Building T100 hardware

[Lee Olivares]

I'd be happy to do the actual construction for interested parties without the 
requisite skills/equipment. 

Just point me at those gerbers and BOMs. 

- Lee Olivares
- (909) 437-0250
- The Future or Bust.

Re: [M100] Club100 store offline?

[Lee Olivares]

>
> You would need some flow control engaged though.

Thus my furious and naive quest to get HTERM.CO loaded and *running*
without cold-starting!

 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.



On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:04 PM, John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Lee Olivares <l...@braains.net> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried dialing in with a M100? It would be nice to have a
>>> directly compatible BBS around.
>>
>> Personally I've tried, but only over a hacked up cable connected to a SIP
>> box, which I'm pretty sure didn't like pulse dialing.
>>
>> Others have connected, I personally have not successfully connected via
>> analog, only via tcpser.
>>
>>>
>>>
> Well, connected over the internet you should be able to achieve higher
> baud rates than 300baud. You would need some flow control engaged though.
>
> -- John.
>

[M100] Multiple .CO file management

[Lee Olivares]

I'm certain someone in the list will be able to point me in the right
direction here:

I'm a bit stuck on .CO file management, I get that machine language files
need to be transferred using either DOS, XMODEM, or via a "loader.ba" style
"installer". I've gotten as far as loading TEENY.CO via dlplus, and I've
managed to get HTERM.CO copied, but then getting it loaded is confounding
me, even though I've successfully loaded and fired up DOS100.CO.

I know it has something to do with some gyration of the loadm and clear
statements based on my inspection of warm.ba from the club100 library, but
I feel I'm missing some general "high level" explanation of getting .CO
file in, and out of, RAM.

Not to mention in the process of screwing around I've cold reset the M100 a
half dozen times, usually when I try and launch HTERM.CO after incorrectly
loading it.

Been itching to give HTERM a try! Could be extra awesome using
@PaulRickards RS232 WiFi modem!

 - Lee

Re: [M100] Club100 store offline?

[Lee Olivares]

>
> Have you tried dialing in with a M100? It would be nice to have a directly
> compatible BBS around.

Personally I've tried, but only over a hacked up cable connected to a SIP
box, which I'm pretty sure didn't like pulse dialing.

Others have connected, I personally have not successfully connected via
analog, only via tcpser.

And remember folks, if anyone is selling their REX, I need it more than Lee
> :D

lol! Fair enough, I'm new around here anyway, and I've got the chops to
build one with the documentation.


 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.



On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:22 AM, John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Lee Olivares <l...@braains.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks, finally grooving on the M100 I've had in my collection for
>> ages; I've been aware of Club100 for more than a decade but no resources to
>> make contact, now that I'm a grown damn adult with my own money, I got no
>> reply to the order form and seemingly can't get goodies! :(
>>
>> Not sure if REX is still floating around and available, or if I'm going
>> to have to make my own ROMBO (MOMBO?) PCBs, but that sounds fun either way,
>> what I'd really like is some 8K RAM without having to sacrifice another
>> working M100!
>>
>>
> REX is out of stock right now. For the moment, the options are buy one
> from another user, or build your own. The plans are publicly available, and
> list member Brian White has worked out some of the necessary details to
> build his own successfully.
>
> Steve designed REX and frequents this list so he's available for
> questions. Ken runs Club100 and is on the list, though he's busy with real
> life at the moment so no Club100 orders are being filled, I think. You can
> talk to him here.
>
> I run this mailing list, so... Welcome!
>
>
>> FYI, @fozztexx and I have been working on updating the Level 29 BBS for
>> 40x8 and 32x8 terminal width! tpcser works great at 300 baud, and he's got
>> a hardline available too: http://bbs.fozztexx.com/
>>
>>
> Have you tried dialing in with a M100? It would be nice to have a directly
> compatible BBS around.
>
> -- John.
>

[M100] Club100 store offline?

[Lee Olivares]

Hey folks, finally grooving on the M100 I've had in my collection for ages;
I've been aware of Club100 for more than a decade but no resources to make
contact, now that I'm a grown damn adult with my own money, I got no reply
to the order form and seemingly can't get goodies! :(

Not sure if REX is still floating around and available, or if I'm going to
have to make my own ROMBO (MOMBO?) PCBs, but that sounds fun either way,
what I'd really like is some 8K RAM without having to sacrifice another
working M100!

FYI, @fozztexx and I have been working on updating the Level 29 BBS for
40x8 and 32x8 terminal width! tpcser works great at 300 baud, and he's got
a hardline available too: http://bbs.fozztexx.com/

Nice to meet everyone and become a part of the (new) M100 mailing list!

 - Lee (@eltoozero)