Hi,
With my new job as Director of Access Technology for Project GNU/Free
Software Foundation, I am so busy that I can hardly keep up with work
let alone follow these lists.
I thank you all for the help you have given me over the past two years
since I got my first MacBook and I hoped I
I noticed that a software update that arrived last week was related to
security. I don't know what it does but it could be anything from standard UNIX
like crypto stuff to malware related functionality.
Last I heard, though, was that there were no known virus for the Mac in the
wild but some
jp: Well this is a law suit waiting and begging to be picked up and they will
win it. This is going against the your US right as a citizen. Called Freedom
of speech and Freedom of Press! So I think this is why Apple changed it mind
This is like saying you can surf the internet but here is
rl: This is rather surprising, that they would do this. Regarding the 18+
thing, there are apps that won't download unless you consent that you are not
a minor. Unfortunately, that requires a simple yes/no click, but at the same
time, it's after your password, so that's some layer of
Jeez, we have nine different Apple products in our house and collectively they
don't add up to $17,000. I'd be afraid of such a beast as nothing I do with a
computer could possibly warrant that much power. So, if I had that sort of
money, I suppose I would keep my current stuff and put a big
Many years ago when the Open Software Foundation was around (now it's smaller
and called Linux Foundation), a friend of mine thought he was replying only to
his boss - instead, he sent the note to the entire board of directors and
steering committee - which, back in those days, read like a
products at five!
Olivia
On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Jeez, we have nine different Apple products in our house and collectively
they don't add up to $17,000. I'd be afraid of such a beast as nothing I do
with a computer could possibly warrant that much power. So
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On Apr 16, 2010, at 3:35 PM, olivia norman wrote:
Nine apple products? I thought I had a lot of apple products at five!
Olivia
On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Jeez, we have nine different Apple products in our house and collectively
Hi,
I had thought I had read on one of these lists that there was an OSX update
recently. Busy on GNU/Linux stuff and surrounded by the hoards of springtime
visitors from most anywhere above the Mason/Dixon line, I didn't get to doing a
software update until this morning.
From the dialogue
, at 6:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
I did not see it under disk utilities. I saw the dialogue and then the burn
button. and that's it. I'll have a play with it though.
On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
You can change the speed if you check the box that says Ready to burn.
It's
Hi,
Recently, I have had to try out a number of different GNU/Linux distros. I use
Safari to download them from their web sites and then, using disk utility, burn
the DVD. I got this to work with the SpeakUp Modified Fedora but all other
downloads cause Disk Utility to crap out on
it.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
Recently, I have had to try out a number of different GNU/Linux distros. I
use Safari to download them from their web sites and then, using disk
utility, burn the DVD. I got this to work with the SpeakUp Modified Fedora
but all other downloads cause Disk
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Hi cdh
On 30 Mar 2010, at 15:07, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Recently, I have had to try out a number of different GNU/Linux distros. I
use Safari to download them from their web sites
:
Hi cdh
On 30 Mar 2010, at 15:07, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Recently, I have had to try out a number of different GNU/Linux distros. I
use Safari to download them from their web sites and then, using disk
utility, burn the DVD. I got this to work with the SpeakUp Modified Fedora
but all other
Accessibility of Flash and Flex is currently available on Windows and does
not work very well or at all sometimes with certain AT. They may start putting
some accessibility into the Macintosh version but I would expect that, at best,
it will be a poor solution. This is based on Adobe's history
Hi Everyone,
Those of you who are interested in UNIX like command lines, in particular bash,
but are afraid to jump in with both feet, you can get a book introducing the
basic concepts from GNU (www.lpf.org). The print version is $20 but, at the
Libre Planet conference this past weekend,
If the user is an absolute beginner, I would recommend VO highly. If they are a
long time user of a different OS/screen reader pair, it takes a little time to
adjust to the different keystrokes but VO has the advantage that it rarely
crashes in a way that will cause you to lose data.
cdh
On
I think it may have something to do with Growl starting up. I've seen the
problem but, after a delay, it usually goes away.
On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:20 PM, clarence griffin wrote:
maybe that's one of your accounts having a problem logging in? I don't know.
I had that happen before, then it
I like Syrinx on Mac. It isn't as feature rich as some of the others but, as
far as I've been able to notice in about four months, it seems 100% accessible.
On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
Thanks. Now, for another question. Do you or anyone else for that matter
know of an
Does anyone know the default IP address assigned to TimeCapsule?
I need to let some people into my local network via ssh.
cdh
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I don't do a lot of text messaging so, although I use Adium, my skills with it
remain eternally rusty. One thing I do not understand is why, after I type
something into the edit box and return to the conversation (the control labeled
Unknown) I'm always brought back to the top?
I'm probably
My problem with Flash is purely on the accessibility and programming freedom
fronts. As access goes, it is poor on Windows and non-existent elsewhere. On
the programming freedom side, because it is an entirely propriety format, I
cannot write my own accessible Flash player without doing some
I have a good friend in the accessibility portion of Adobe. I can ask him and
he can say what he is allowed to.
On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi list,
I think there might be some interesting movement coming along the adobe side,
after the news that photoshop and
something?? I hope this fixes things, although, I've not
experienced much slowness here with my mbp.
On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
A number of us have been complaining about various slowness problems. This
may be the fix:
http://accesstechnews.wordpress.com
Hi,
True enough, though that'd be the same as auto-forms mode. You'd still have
to get System Access out of the form to navigate.
But in SA this is just an arrow key or tab.
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Hi,
I need to install yet another GNU/Linux distro for use at the Project GNU Libre
Planet conference next month. I saw something called Boot Camp Assistant in
the Utilities folder and fired it up. It only talks about installing Windows,
can it be used for other OS distros?
I have VMWare but
I must admit that one reason I use the rotor so much is that I am not a
classical pianist like Iggy so some of the keystrokes are a bit hard for this
old nerd.
cdh
On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Scott,
I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the
I've heard the new MS Office has been rewritten for Cocoa and should be
accessible but information from MS can be true and false at the same time.
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Scott Ballard-RidleyScott Ridley wrote:
hi all
I have just read on the mac world website that microsoft has
Hi,
A number of us have been complaining about various slowness problems. This may
be the fix:
http://accesstechnews.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/apple-offers-fix-for-audio-related-mac-pro-performance-issue/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter.
cdh
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The PDF author did not use the appropriate table tags in your problem document.
You may be able to do a select all and copy and paste the table into a word
processor or spreadsheet which may be able to sort out the broken table for
you. Otherwise, you are SOL - Viva Adobe!
On Feb 10, 2010, at
With last year's lay offs at IBM and last week's lay offs at Sun, the future of
large scale accessibility projects in free/open source software looks pretty
disorganized at the moment. Marco (with whom I used to work at Freedom
Scientific) is really dedicated but the overwhelmingly large
Hi,
I was VP of Software Engineering at FS when we invented a lot of what is now
the common user interface on Windows screen readers. I am proud of the work we
did as we certainly moved the art forward.
Now, I use Macintosh with Safari. The Windows way of doing things tried to
emulate a word
No, shift plus arrows does nothing for sighted users. Of course, they cannot
use the rotor, item chooser or lots of things that VoiceOver provides for us
blinks. The web browsing experience is very different for people with vision
impairment than sighted users so trying to come up with some
out what the current state of Orca was on Linux.
This is indeed very disturbing and more than a little annoying.
Just in case anyone else is trying to get hold of him at his Sun address, it
no longer exists.
TC
James, Lyn, Nash Twinny
On 11 Feb 2010, at 12:53, Chris Hofstader wrote
in
this? Feel free to point me to an article explaining this if there is
one.
Thanks.
Aman
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I'm in touch with both Willy and Mike and I'll pass on your regards.
On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:17 AM, James Nash wrote:
I would love to help, but I am only
quick I still think jaws and
windows has an advantage. .
On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
I was VP of Software Engineering at FS when we invented a lot of what is
now the common user interface on Windows screen readers. I am proud of the
work we did as we
Because the question of why Firefox sucks on Macintosh needs a complicated
response as it is a complicated problem.
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Carolyn wrote:
Ok, and we need to know all of this for what reason?
Carolyn
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I've already taken the first couple of baby steps to get an access technology
team going at project GNU which is compatible with GNOME and orca as they both
carry GPL licenses. We plan on posting our commitment to accessibility
statement this week and will be gathering volunteers and
Thank you very much!
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Chris,
Chris Hofstader wrote:
How does one keep the top sites bar from showing up? I can usually get it
to go away but it seems to return randomly.
You can keep the top sites bar from showing up by de-selecting
How does one keep the top sites bar from showing up? I can usually get it to
go away but it seems to return randomly.
On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Robert,
I think that you can move bookmarks and/or folders with copy and paste, or
even cut and paste. As far as I can tell,
from professional, and their practices say to me that they don't respect
or value their customers.
Bryan
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far from professional, and their practices say to me that they don't
respect or value their customers.
Bryan
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For years, Adobe's behavior has been a paradox wrapped in an enigma and coded
with deep encryption.
On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Yes you are right, some of apple's stuff is also still carbon, but i remember
somewhere saying adobe didn't want to jump the coco
hardware decoder rather than software to play back the
video. Note that even if you opt-in for HTML5 video you still get shunted to
the youtube player. Vimeo bumps you to the QuickTime player. I didn't even
know there was a QT player on the iPhone.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Just curious
Just curious, what software is running when you view a YouTube video on the
iPhone? I assumed it had to be some variety of Flash.
On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Interesting read about the lack of love between Apple and Adobe in relation
to Flash and why you'll never see
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Q: Is MSAA info even accessible on the Mac?
A: All information can be found if one knows how and where to look for
it. MSAA data is attached to the controls in one of their object
description fields. Finding the controls will give us the place to find
the MSAA
/downloads/axs1.2/readme.html#md
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Even though they are compiled, has anyone opened such a file with a hex
editor and poked around looking for human readable text? Dumping it as ASCII
will almost always give gibberish because of odd compilation artifacts. But
a hex
Well, that sucks.
I've heard talk about a JavaScript Flash to html 5 convertor but I haven't seen
any actual bits. I know Firefox supports html 5 accessibly on Windows and
GNU/Linux but think it probably does us no good on Macintosh. What about
Safari, how well does it deal with html 5 and VO?
Could it be possible, if we know what we're looking for, to find the MSAA
information in a Flash object? It could give us the names and locations
relative to the Flash window from which we could easily calculate the raw
screen coordinates and provide a crufty facility for users to click buttons
a debugger to try to find
anything within a Flash object yet (before or after it's rendered) so this more
of a thought experiment than anything else.
cdh
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Could it be possible, if we know what we're looking for, to find the MSAA
information in a Flash object
Use the thesaurus service.
On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:53 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Listers in Windows I can right click on a word in say Outlook or a text
editor and get synonyms for words. Does anyone know how to duplicate this
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platform obsolete. Free support for embedded audio and video content
that works cross-platform and for free.
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Hi,
On my MacBook Pro 13 that I bought in October, it feels like everything is
slowing down. The Item Chooser menu causes the Safari Busy announcement at
least once but more times on particularly big pages.
This is a fast computer (2.26 Core 2 and 4 gb RAM) but it gets slower all of
the
Thanks very much. We should post your message as an FYI somewhere.
On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi Chris,
I've had a macbook pro since a few months before you got yours, and my unit
is running just as fast as when i got it.
I do have a lot of applications and
I somehow got the peculiar notion that Flash may not suck entirely for VO
users. I thought I might be able to go into AppleScript, enumerate the
controls on the active Flash item and then provide a way for users to hit
keystrokes to activate the Flash controls.
Well, I found out that Flash
Thanks. I might try your idea this afternoon.
On Jan 18, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
You can't control flash that way as the whole framework is in carbon. Until
we get adobe stuff in coco, it won't help much to do anything. unless you
call out flash buttons from javascript
If, like me, you enjoy documentaries, the web site, www.streaming-madness.net,
has incredible content you can view online without cost. The downside, though,
is that the one button that you really need - namely the Play button - is
exposed through Flash and VO doesn't see it at all. The rest
Hi,
I had been using Syrinx but having two twitter accounts and wanting a few extra
features, I thought I would try Twiterific and see how that would work for me.
It's documentation refers both to a File and an Action menu but on its main
menu bar, I only see Apple, twitterific, Edit, Window
.
On Jan 12, 10:17 am, Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com wrote:
Has any Firefox worked on Mac without FireVox installed?
On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Save yourself some time in case you were hoping for more in the new
release. All I could access was the window title
Mozilla is able to get some support for OpenOffice using an accessibility layer
built into Gecko. I don't know how this could effect Firefox but one might
guess that their UI common library should work at least as well as OO.
OO is weird on Mac. Because of the gecko common UI layer, it can't
Has any Firefox worked on Mac without FireVox installed?
On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Save yourself some time in case you were hoping for more in the new release.
All I could access was the window title and close/min/max buttons in the
chrome.
CB
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On Jan 8, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
Thanks!! I am one of the best mac users you'll find!!
On Jan 8, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Sure, I'll keep you in mind.
On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
Hey, Scott, if you do decide to do
Nor is she Audi's cousin.
On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
I can't resist,
She's not Volk Wagons Sister, I taking a guess at!
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Portia- are you the same person I knew from another list about a million years
ago?
cdh
On Jan 7, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Portia Scott wrote:
Hey all,
I just wanted to say that I am loving my Macbook Pro, and loving it more and
more as I go on. I have had this mac since Monday, January fourth.
Friends of mine inside Adobe tell me that Mac is on their radar but not a
priority. The VO team cannot do anything with a program that doesn't even try
to be accessible on the platform.
On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hmm. That's too bad. It does work a *little better in
Also, if you find yourself getting out of range for the keyboard, their are
non-Blue Tooth RF keyboards that will work any where in your house or yard
unless you own some massive plantation.
cdh
On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Hi Mary, well it looks like peeps have already
Wireless headphones are available at BestBuy etc. for a pretty little money.
Your keyboard, though, only has about 30 feet of range and I'm uncertain about
Blue Tooth boosters.
On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi folks,
When I bought my Mac mini recently, I purchased a
There are also wireless computer speakers.
On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Chris,
Yes, I know about wireless headphones. I worked using headphones for 8 hours
a day for 30 years, so I try to avoid them when possible. smile It could be
a cheap way to find out just how far
Since getting my MacBook Pro 13, I rarely use my MacBook 13 anymore. So, my
wife moved onto it yesterday. I created a separate user account for her. At
the login dialogue, I need to hit COMMAND+F5 to get VO to come on after
restarting the computer. When I chose my account VO is their
Hey Jake,
Terrific post!
As I wrote yesterday on the definition of hacker, I said that a program like
JailBreak was likely written by a very talented programmer or team thereof. I
also said that programs like it and others can cause some stability problems
and, while I forgot to mention
.
On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Before I would even download Sunrise or any other browser, I'd first check
if it was compatible with the Apple Accessibility API as, while it may not
have the same bugs one might find in Safari, it may perform terribly with
VoiceOver.
cdh
Before I would even download Sunrise or any other browser, I'd first check if
it was compatible with the Apple Accessibility API as, while it may not have
the same bugs one might find in Safari, it may perform terribly with VoiceOver.
cdh
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On Dec 27, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
If you really want to learn almost all of the important aspects of writing in
the English
VO performs pretty well but you do need to do some poking around with mouse
cursor.
On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:04 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
Is anyone out there programming in the xcode environment?
How well does vo perform?
John
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Hi,
Because I was an English major in graduate school, I can't help myself: You
wrote, sometimes, There is no right or wrong answer here Erik, merely
objective points of view... This is subjective rather than objective
points of view. An objective measurement of a computing device might be
I can't recall if SA supports Braille or not. If so, SATOGO would be a cost
free solution for Windows.
On Dec 18, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Joe Plummer wrote:
Well she is out of luck. There is no screen readers that are free to do what
she wants.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
If you like DS, it is really worthwhile joining the Serotek System Access
Network where for a few bucks per month, you can find an excellent and ever
growing catalogue of DVS movies.
On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:53 PM, william lomas wrote:
hi all do any movies on the itunes store have
Hi,
As this was a topic earlier this morning and a friend from Serotek sent out the
link over twitter, I think it's probably worth a look-see by those interested
in DVS.
cdh
http://www.totalitv.com/cont/home_en.php
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This is nice but not cross platform which I think is one of the criteria.
On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote:
i use Keychane access, which is built into the Os. You can find it under
applications and utilities.
On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:45, Robert Carter wrote:
Hi,
I
Hi,
I have been using Adium for a while to communicate with friends who mostly use
MSN or whatever it's called these days. I can see their status and send and
receive text messages but my status always seems to be offline on their side.
Has anyone else seen this?
Also, is there another chat
I think that in VO settings there is a read text attributes or some such
thing that is off by default. I don't know if it will help you but it's
probably a good feature to try.
On Dec 13, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
Hi,
I had to insert text into a fairly complex
I mostly agree with Eric here but attribute the variations in web
information/screen reader combination to a lack of acceptance on the part of
web developers, browser authors and, to a big extent, screen access vendors.
It is true that Apple is setting its own accessibility standards but, for
This rant and any follow up should be referred to the BS mailing list as it is
way, way off topic.To join the BS list, send an email to:
vo-bs-requ...@lists.hofstader.com with the word subscribe in the subject
line.
To those of us who feel that screen readers will always provide second class
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program in Python, you can help the team move it
forward. As a full time solution, though, it isn't ready for prime time yet.
I know both Mick and Jamie, the top of the NVDA team, and they
been criticism from commercial venders and those
trainers who should really be impartial - at least in my view. They believe
that because NVDA is free and open source then it must automatically be a
non starter.
TC
James
TC
James
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for
the job at hand, thus like you, I am not and hopefully will never be an
evangelist for one platform or piece of AT.
TC
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be a
non starter.
TC
James
TC
James
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Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very
Hi,
I have been using Adium for a while now (if you like, you can contact me on MSN
at blindchrist...@live .com, I forgot my AOL name as I only used it once).
Recently, I finally got to copying it from the Downloads folder and into
Applications which didn't seem to make a difference. When,
Hi,
My wife got up and I asked to borrow her eyes for a few moments. I had
mentioned that Adium and Syrinx Dock menus could no longer be reached since I
moved them into the Run at Login category. I then launched Mail and I could
no longer use its or any other running program's Dock menu.
I'll check for updates, thanks!
On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
There was something in an older version about naughty behavior with adium,
Did the latest update get applied? If so they may not have gotten this
behavior under control.
On 2009-12-09, at 7:42 AM, Chris
Hi,
We just tried getting the Dock menus for running applications to pop up
without VO running and all seemed normal. Once I restarted VO, though, the
problem of the disappeared menus returned.
I did check for Adium version and it said I was up to date. I'll try Syrinx
now and see if it
Hi,
We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login feature, leaving nothing
executing at start up other than VO and Finder and problem remains that I
cannot get to the menus on the items associated with running programs on my
dock.
This is starting to really suck.
cdh
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alias in the dock. The only way I could get to the shortcut menu was
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shortcut menus. Hope this helps
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On 09/12/2009, Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com wrote:
Hi,
My wife got up and I asked to borrow her eyes
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Hi,
We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login feature, leaving
nothing executing at start up other than VO
then when I command-tab, it
works fine.
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login
I seem to have the same problem as Donna in that these keystrokes on my MacBook
Pro behave as she describes. Could it be having emails sorted into threads and
collapsed?
cdh
On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hi Esther,
That doesn't work either, VO-FN-Shift Up arrow takes me
I don't understand this one?
On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Mark Gilland wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Chris.
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a lot of mistakes if I get an iPhone, or the fact I
was being nice. Oh well.
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On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
I don't understand
The Apple Speakable Items feature for voice command and control have been
around for about a million years and it's very well document on the Apple site
as well as from other sources.
cdh
On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM, .dan. wrote:
Someone asked:
I've looked with some curiosity at the
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