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Re: Face time on the Mac is broken or not?

2020-05-22 Thread KliphnShari Miller

The trick is to do it from recent calls, or from messages.  Open a conversation 
with someone in messages, then go to participants, then vo shift m and go to 
face time, hit enter on that and the call will be made.


> On May 21, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> I am unable to make a FaceTime call unless I ask Siri to do it. When I try to 
> use the button nothing happens.  Also,  I had the screen go green when on a 
> video call. Does anyone know what that means?
> 
> Marie LyonsSent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:42 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I tried making a face time call on the Mac but when I typed the person’s 
>> name etc in the edit box, you could here what you wanted but when you vo 
>> right to the table, there was nothing in the table.  Are others having this 
>> result?
>> 
>> Also if you open contacts and you find contact details for the person, you 
>> interact and find the details, if you vo M normally you get choices of what 
>> you’d like to do.  There is a face time button but no label to make a face 
>> time audio call or face time video call.  All you have is a call button or 
>> send message button.  So if someone could tell me if they get the same thing 
>> using voice over then I can write to Apple Accessibility.
>> 
>> Thank you for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Modular is a watch face, not a complication.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 17:23, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I have the modular complication. And within that complication, my heart rate 
and breathing used to show up. I thought that the heart rate and breathing was 
a complication. I disabled every other complication. As I did prefer that one. 
So maybe tomorrow, I will reset the watch and see what happens after wishing to 
throw it out of the window if I cannot get the Bluetooth passcode on the watch 
quick enough.

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:55 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of 
> a better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
> For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
> complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
> complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
> positions on the watch face.
> 
> Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for 
> many years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
> that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can 
> have.  So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos 
> complication, the Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four 
> complications available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right 
> changes the watch-face to the next or previous complication on the 
> watch-face.  Things like Weather, Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much 
> more are Watch apps and usually come pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  
> These are not purchased, although, yes, there are purchasable apps.  You are 
> able to set which apps show up on your Dock as well as the watch will often 
> place apps you use regularly onto the Dock for you.  So, when I suggest 
> double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, or the Heart Rate item from 
> within a complication, then both of these action will open the Heart Rate app 
> and allow you to view the accumulated data within that app.
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
> as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
> but I don’t use that one. 
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the 
>> complications.  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my 
>> Dock.  Once I double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in 
>> the Photos complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as 
>> part of its complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is 
>> displayed and announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular 
>> Heart Rate data is available.
>> 
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
>> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what 
>> happens.  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the 
>> bluetooth thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on 
>> the phone to do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a 
>> drawback on things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as 
 the breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
 although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had

Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Tim,

What you were calling a Complication is actually a watch face.  A complication 
is something that appears on a watch face and provides information such as the 
day/date,  temperature or some other information. .

- Brad -

On May 22, 2020, at 17:18, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

hi Brad,

Thanks for the clarification.  So, basically, the thing that I was calling a 
complication is really a collection of complications.  Cool.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of a 
better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
positions on the watch face.

Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for many 
years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.

HTH

- Brad -

On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they

Re: How do I check the time on the mac?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries

Another option is the date command in the terminal.

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Petrus 
Tuerlings 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Friday, May 22, 2020 at 16:48
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: How do I check the time on the mac?

You can also do VO+MM  brings up the menu extras and you can check the time and 
battery level and other things there.

On 23/05/2020, at 04:07, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I am not a big Keyboard Commander user, but I have found that it is not a 
problem using the right Option key on my MacBook Pro keyboard.  It works just 
as it does on my Mac mini with a full sized keyboard.

BTW - the correct Keyboard Commander command for checking the time is OPT + T, 
not OPT by itself.

- Brad -

On May 22, 2020, at 08:46, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Shirley,

With the keyboard commander turned on, Option-t gives you the time. In 
VoiceOver Utility, in the Commanders category, you can choose whether to use 
the right or left Option key. However, on a laptop, the only sensible choice is 
the righthand Option key since there is no Control key on that side so the 
Option key can’t really be used for the VoiceOver keys.
VO-Shift-k toggles the keyboard commander on and off.
Cheers,

Anne

On 22 May 2020, at 15:29, Shirley Healy  wrote:

i am looking to know how i check what time it is on my mac? what is the command 
to do this?
shirley

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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

I have the modular complication. And within that complication, my heart rate 
and breathing used to show up. I thought that the heart rate and breathing was 
a complication. I disabled every other complication. As I did prefer that one. 
So maybe tomorrow, I will reset the watch and see what happens after wishing to 
throw it out of the window if I cannot get the Bluetooth passcode on the watch 
quick enough.

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:55 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of 
> a better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
> For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
> complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
> complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
> positions on the watch face.
> 
> Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for 
> many years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
> that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can 
> have.  So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos 
> complication, the Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four 
> complications available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right 
> changes the watch-face to the next or previous complication on the 
> watch-face.  Things like Weather, Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much 
> more are Watch apps and usually come pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  
> These are not purchased, although, yes, there are purchasable apps.  You are 
> able to set which apps show up on your Dock as well as the watch will often 
> place apps you use regularly onto the Dock for you.  So, when I suggest 
> double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, or the Heart Rate item from 
> within a complication, then both of these action will open the Heart Rate app 
> and allow you to view the accumulated data within that app.
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
> as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
> but I don’t use that one. 
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the 
>> complications.  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my 
>> Dock.  Once I double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in 
>> the Photos complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as 
>> part of its complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is 
>> displayed and announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular 
>> Heart Rate data is available.
>> 
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
>> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what 
>> happens.  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the 
>> bluetooth thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on 
>> the phone to do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a 
>> drawback on things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as 
 the breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
 although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
 problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
 but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
 happening. Thank you for your help.
 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

hi Brad,

Thanks for the clarification.  So, basically, the thing that I was calling a 
complication is really a collection of complications.  Cool.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of a 
better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
positions on the watch face.

Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for many 
years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.

HTH

- Brad -

On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

I don’t find that the password for a Google account is stored anywhere in 
Internet Accounts.
I have a Outlook.com  email account, and I find my 
password is saved in the Outlook account settings.  This is not the case for 
either my Google account or my AT/Yahoo account.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 16:30, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
this happens again?

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Glad you got it working.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
> again.
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
>> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its 
>> ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that 
>> doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
>> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
>> you had to suffer with.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>> 
>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
>> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
>> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
>> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Tim,

Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of a 
better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
positions on the watch face.

Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for many 
years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.

HTH

- Brad -

On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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>>> Visionaries list.
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>>> 
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
this happens again?

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Glad you got it working.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
> again.
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
>> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its 
>> ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that 
>> doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
>> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
>> you had to suffer with.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>> 
>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
>> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
>> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
>> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

Yes, if that is the format that the books App uses then I’m looking to convert 
my MP3  books. I have quite a few and I’d like to work out how to do it myself. 
Thanks for the offer, but I’m happy to email you off list with some of the 
titles in case you’re interested in reading them. 

> On 22/05/2020, at 21:55, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
>  
> How many books do you have and are you looking to convert them to m4b file 
> types?
>  
> I have windows machines with itunes which will convert mp3 to the m4b formats.
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 11:31 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convirtió MP3 files 
>  
> Thanks, I’ll check with the boss first before I buy it as she is the holder 
> of the finances in our family sharing account. 
> 
> 
> On 22/05/2020, at 11:25, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, I’m pretty sure that I did pay $9.99 CAD as well.  They may have made it 
> available in the App Store now for easier visibility.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
>  
> Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
> google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave 
> up.
> 
> 
> On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would 
> be able to use the exact same name for an app.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
>  
> I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2 
>  but not sure if that was the same one.
> 
> 
> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi Petrus,
>  
> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>  
>  
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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

Hi,

I believe you can using Hand-Off, but I can’t remember the process or steps.  
I’ll confirm later.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

OK Tim.  I’ll take a look.

Can you transfer calls from your watch to your I phone or Mac if you are in 
another part of your property.  That would be handy if you were walking towards 
one of your other devices.

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On your iPhone, in Settings, Phone, find the item that says something about 
> “Calls on other devices, when nearby” and double-tap it.  Make sure this 
> feature is turned on and that your Mac is also set to “on” on this screen.  
> With this enabled, calls that come into your iPhone can be answered on your 
> Mac using FaceTime, and you can make outbound calls using FaceTime on your 
> Mac using the iPhone’s calling capabilities.  So, for example, if you wished 
> to call a friend on their land line, you’d just open FaceTime on your Mac, 
> type their number in the Search field, VO-right to the Audio button and 
> VO-space on it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 1:18 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> How do you do that on your iPhone then as I said to you that FaceTime on the 
> Mac is not very good at the moment. I.e.  I haven’t found it in the FaceTime 
> keyboard yet on the iPhone.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 8:11 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, my instructions pertain to the Mac as well.  The reference to iPhone in 
>> my post refers to the ability to use FaceTime on your Mac to call 
>> non-FaceTime recipients.  If the continuity features are enabled between Mac 
>> and iPhone, then you can make a call from your Mac that uses your iPhone but 
>> all audio is passed through the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:03 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This was on the Mac. I have already reported it to Apple Access Ability by 
>> sending my instructions. FaceTime with the iPhone is perfectly fine.
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 4:52 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
>>> implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
>>> number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or 
>>> Video button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available 
>>> to you as in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
>>> would suggest dropping
>>> accessibil...@apple.com 
>>> And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 
 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kawa...@me.com>>
> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
> To: Apple Access Ability  >
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather 
> than Siri).
> 
> Please investigate.
> 
> Steps below for your information.
> 
> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
> 
> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
> 
> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the 
> information in if you can’t remember the details.
> 
> 4.  Voice Over will give

Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

OK Tim.  I’ll take a look.

Can you transfer calls from your watch to your I phone or Mac if you are in 
another part of your property.  That would be handy if you were walking towards 
one of your other devices.

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On your iPhone, in Settings, Phone, find the item that says something about 
> “Calls on other devices, when nearby” and double-tap it.  Make sure this 
> feature is turned on and that your Mac is also set to “on” on this screen.  
> With this enabled, calls that come into your iPhone can be answered on your 
> Mac using FaceTime, and you can make outbound calls using FaceTime on your 
> Mac using the iPhone’s calling capabilities.  So, for example, if you wished 
> to call a friend on their land line, you’d just open FaceTime on your Mac, 
> type their number in the Search field, VO-right to the Audio button and 
> VO-space on it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 1:18 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> How do you do that on your iPhone then as I said to you that FaceTime on the 
> Mac is not very good at the moment. I.e.  I haven’t found it in the FaceTime 
> keyboard yet on the iPhone.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 8:11 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, my instructions pertain to the Mac as well.  The reference to iPhone in 
>> my post refers to the ability to use FaceTime on your Mac to call 
>> non-FaceTime recipients.  If the continuity features are enabled between Mac 
>> and iPhone, then you can make a call from your Mac that uses your iPhone but 
>> all audio is passed through the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:03 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This was on the Mac. I have already reported it to Apple Access Ability by 
>> sending my instructions. FaceTime with the iPhone is perfectly fine.
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 4:52 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
>>> implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
>>> number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or 
>>> Video button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available 
>>> to you as in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
>>> would suggest dropping
>>> accessibil...@apple.com 
>>> And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 
 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kawa...@me.com>>
> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
> To: Apple Access Ability  >
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather 
> than Siri).
> 
> Please investigate.
> 
> Steps below for your information.
> 
> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
> 
> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
> 
> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the 
> information in if you can’t remember the details.
> 
> 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
> 
> 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
> 
> 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
> 
> 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
> 
> 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
> 
> 9..  Please interact with the

Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: How do I check the time on the mac?

You can also do VO+MM  brings up the menu extras and you can check the time and 
battery level and other things there.

> On 23/05/2020, at 04:07, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I am not a big Keyboard Commander user, but I have found that it is not a 
> problem using the right Option key on my MacBook Pro keyboard.  It works just 
> as it does on my Mac mini with a full sized keyboard.
> 
> BTW - the correct Keyboard Commander command for checking the time is OPT + 
> T, not OPT by itself.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 08:46, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Shirley,
> 
> With the keyboard commander turned on, Option-t gives you the time. In 
> VoiceOver Utility, in the Commanders category, you can choose whether to use 
> the right or left Option key. However, on a laptop, the only sensible choice 
> is the righthand Option key since there is no Control key on that side so the 
> Option key can’t really be used for the VoiceOver keys.
> VO-Shift-k toggles the keyboard commander on and off.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 15:29, Shirley Healy > > wrote:
>> 
>> i am looking to know how i check what time it is on my mac? what is the 
>> command to do this?
>> shirley
>> 
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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

Hi,

On your iPhone, in Settings, Phone, find the item that says something about 
“Calls on other devices, when nearby” and double-tap it.  Make sure this 
feature is turned on and that your Mac is also set to “on” on this screen.  
With this enabled, calls that come into your iPhone can be answered on your Mac 
using FaceTime, and you can make outbound calls using FaceTime on your Mac 
using the iPhone’s calling capabilities.  So, for example, if you wished to 
call a friend on their land line, you’d just open FaceTime on your Mac, type 
their number in the Search field, VO-right to the Audio button and VO-space on 
it.

HTH.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 1:18 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

How do you do that on your iPhone then as I said to you that FaceTime on the 
Mac is not very good at the moment. I.e.  I haven’t found it in the FaceTime 
keyboard yet on the iPhone.

> On 22 May 2020, at 8:11 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, my instructions pertain to the Mac as well.  The reference to iPhone in 
> my post refers to the ability to use FaceTime on your Mac to call 
> non-FaceTime recipients.  If the continuity features are enabled between Mac 
> and iPhone, then you can make a call from your Mac that uses your iPhone but 
> all audio is passed through the Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 1:03 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> This was on the Mac. I have already reported it to Apple Access Ability by 
> sending my instructions. FaceTime with the iPhone is perfectly fine.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 4:52 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
>> implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
>> number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or 
>> Video button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available 
>> to you as in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>>   I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
>> would suggest dropping
>> accessibil...@apple.com 
>> And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kawa...@me.com>>
 Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
 Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
 To: Apple Access Ability >>> >

 Hello.

 I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
 Siri).

 Please investigate.

 Steps below for your information.

 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.

 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.

 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the 
 information in if you can’t remember the details.

 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.

 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.

 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.

 7. Open contacts on the Mac.

 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.

 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there 
 are no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.

 I hope that helps.

 Thank you very much.

 Kawal.
>>> 
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Re: unintended freezing of iPhone

Did you install any new Apps around the time this started happening?Have you 
updated too 13.5 yet as this might help as well?

> On 23/05/2020, at 03:40, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don’t know when it startet but I guess it must have started one or two 
> weeks ago. My iPhone 11 Pro suddenly freezes from time to time for ruffly 5 
> to 10 seconds. After that period of time it works normal again. I restarted 
> the iPhone but no change.
> 
> Has anyone experienced this as well? Is there a way to check the iPhone 
> technically to find out if something is broken inside?
> 
> Thanks and all the best
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Re: Music shortcut and repeating

Well Rime of the ancient Mariner by Iron Maiden  is 15 minutes long and there 
are loads of classical tracks out there that are 20 minutes or longer.

> On 22/05/2020, at 22:07, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> What track is 20 minutes long?
>  
> Stair way to heaven is only 10 or so,
>  
> I’m guessing you have looked at the short cut to see if anything has changed?
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
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> Hi all,
> I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
> from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
> such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
> then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
> asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
> song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
> solution. However now when I invoke the shortcut it will play the track and 
> then repeat it again. This has only happened in the last week or so. I can’t 
> remember changing anything in my settings but I might have done.
> I thought about using the song as an alarm but it is 20 minutes long and the 
> alarm stops after 10 minutes.  
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Hi,

Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications.  
I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
available.

Later…
 

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in the 
complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens.  I am 
reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth thing quick 
enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to do it but I 
might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on things, as Apple 
make you update even if you don’t want to.

> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Kawal,
> 
> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>> happening. Thank you for your help.
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Re: Face time on the Mac is broken or not?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

There are no updates for the Mac and I have not updated it unless it did it 
automatically as I have it on that.

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:24, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Not yet but I’ll do it now.  It broke the watch so will it break the Mac as 
> well?
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>> On 22 May 2020, at 10:34, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> Yes this is a bug i guess.
>> Will send them a note.
>> Do you by the way have the latest catalina update that was released 
>> yesterday?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 21 maj 2020 kl. 23:41 skrev 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I tried making a face time call on the Mac but when I typed the person’s 
>>> name etc in the edit box, you could here what you wanted but when you vo 
>>> right to the table, there was nothing in the table.  Are others having this 
>>> result?
>>> 
>>> Also if you open contacts and you find contact details for the person, you 
>>> interact and find the details, if you vo M normally you get choices of what 
>>> you’d like to do.  There is a face time button but no label to make a face 
>>> time audio call or face time video call.  All you have is a call button or 
>>> send message button.  So if someone could tell me if they get the same 
>>> thing using voice over then I can write to Apple Accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

Glad you got it working.

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On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected again.

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
> 
> - Brad -
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> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Hi,
> 
> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
> their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly 
> head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
> Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, 
> but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, 
> then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever 
> and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t 
> work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
> you had to suffer with.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
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> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Face time on the Mac is broken or not?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

Not yet but I’ll do it now.  It broke the watch so will it break the Mac as 
well?

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:34, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Yes this is a bug i guess.
> Will send them a note.
> Do you by the way have the latest catalina update that was released yesterday?
> /A
> 
>> 21 maj 2020 kl. 23:41 skrev 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I tried making a face time call on the Mac but when I typed the person’s 
>> name etc in the edit box, you could here what you wanted but when you vo 
>> right to the table, there was nothing in the table.  Are others having this 
>> result?
>> 
>> Also if you open contacts and you find contact details for the person, you 
>> interact and find the details, if you vo M normally you get choices of what 
>> you’d like to do.  There is a face time button but no label to make a face 
>> time audio call or face time video call.  All you have is a call button or 
>> send message button.  So if someone could tell me if they get the same thing 
>> using voice over then I can write to Apple Accessibility.
>> 
>> Thank you for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

I checked that and my password was there. when my gmail was offline it was 
telling me to enter my google password in internet accounts. couldn't figure 
out how to do it.

> On May 22, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in the 
complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens.  I am 
reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth thing quick 
enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to do it but I 
might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on things, as Apple 
make you update even if you don’t want to.

> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Kawal,
> 
> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>> happening. Thank you for your help.
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected again.

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
> their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly 
> head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
> Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, 
> but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, 
> then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever 
> and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t 
> work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
> you had to suffer with.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to access 
her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly head.  
I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, but 
sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, then 
log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever and 
whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t work 
either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible work-throughs, but 
for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that you had to suffer with.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.

You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button in 
the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  If 
not, you may be able to add it to the list.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this time 
when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page that was 
asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. how do I 
find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet accounts and 
gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google are checked but 
I can't find passwords. please help.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: passwords in internet accounts

ok. well, I'm still running Mojave guess I'll have to diddle around with it 
some more.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 22, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
> their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly 
> head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
> Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, 
> but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, 
> then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever 
> and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t 
> work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
> you had to suffer with.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Kawal,

I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
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Re: VoiceOver And iPhone Migration

2020-05-22 Thread Pete De Vasto

Thanks for the encouragement! Gabe’s right, it went pretty smoothly. Probably 
the toughest part was installing the SIM card!  Big fingers, tiny card, 
no sight. But with a little trial and error, and being very careful where I put 
the little card on my desk, I did get it. I also had a bit of trouble lining up 
the viewer during the initial link-up, so decided to verify manually. That was 
easy as well. I’m now just doing some final tweaking, and all does look 
extremely good.

Pete

> On May 22, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> 
> When I did this exact thing a couple weeks ago, updating from a 7 to the SE, 
> it couldn't have been easier. The new phone asked if I wanted to restore from 
> another phone and asked to enter a code that showed up on the phone on the 
> device I was restoring from. Once I entered that it walked me through setting 
> up things like my touch ID, Apple pay and maybe a couple things then told me 
> to leave both phones unlocked and near each other until the restore was 
> complete. That process took between 15 minutes and half an hour. The entire 
> process was completely accessible and probably the easiest iPhone setup 
> experience I've ever had. 
> 
> HTH 
> 
> Gabe 
> 
> 
> Sent from Gabe's iPhone
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>> On May 22, 2020, at 8:33 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, everything is accessible.  What you’re actually doing is restoring the 
>> new iPhone from a backup, so hopefully you’ve been either backing up to 
>> iCloud or through iTunes/Finder on a Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> On May 22, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Pete De Vasto > > wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I’m upgrading from my iPhone 7 to the new iPhone SE, and the new phone is 
>> arriving today. I was hoping I’d be able to use iPhone Migration to transfer 
>> from the old to the new device. Will VO give me the right feedback so I can 
>> align the two devices properly to do the initial part of the process? Are 
>> there any other things I should know before I go this route? I can always 
>> fall back to iTunes or iCloud, but the migration process really does seem 
>> like it would be the way to go if it works OK with VO.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts or advice,
>> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

How do you do that on your iPhone then as I said to you that FaceTime on the 
Mac is not very good at the moment. I.e.  I haven’t found it in the FaceTime 
keyboard yet on the iPhone.

> On 22 May 2020, at 8:11 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, my instructions pertain to the Mac as well.  The reference to iPhone in 
> my post refers to the ability to use FaceTime on your Mac to call 
> non-FaceTime recipients.  If the continuity features are enabled between Mac 
> and iPhone, then you can make a call from your Mac that uses your iPhone but 
> all audio is passed through the Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 1:03 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> This was on the Mac. I have already reported it to Apple Access Ability by 
> sending my instructions. FaceTime with the iPhone is perfectly fine.
> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 4:52 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
>> implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
>> number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or 
>> Video button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available 
>> to you as in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
>> would suggest dropping
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
 Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
 Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
 To: Apple Access Ability 
 
 Hello.
 
 I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
 Siri).
 
 Please investigate.
 
 Steps below for your information.
 
 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
 
 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
 
 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the 
 information in if you can’t remember the details.
 
 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
 
 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
 
 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
 
 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
 
 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
 
 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there 
 are no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.
 
 I hope that helps.
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 Kawal.
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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

Hi,

Yes, my instructions pertain to the Mac as well.  The reference to iPhone in my 
post refers to the ability to use FaceTime on your Mac to call non-FaceTime 
recipients.  If the continuity features are enabled between Mac and iPhone, 
then you can make a call from your Mac that uses your iPhone but all audio is 
passed through the Mac.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 1:03 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

This was on the Mac. I have already reported it to Apple Access Ability by 
sending my instructions. FaceTime with the iPhone is perfectly fine.

> On 22 May 2020, at 4:52 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
> implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
> number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or Video 
> button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available to you 
> as in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
>   I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
> would suggest dropping
> accessibil...@apple.com 
> And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kawa...@me.com>>
>>> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
>>> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
>>> To: Apple Access Ability >> >
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
>>> Siri).
>>> 
>>> Please investigate.
>>> 
>>> Steps below for your information.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the 
>>> information in if you can’t remember the details.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
>>> 
>>> 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
>>> 
>>> 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
>>> 
>>> 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
>>> 
>>> 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there 
>>> are no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

This was on the Mac. I have already reported it to Apple Access Ability by 
sending my instructions. FaceTime with the iPhone is perfectly fine.

> On 22 May 2020, at 4:52 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
> implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
> number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or Video 
> button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available to you 
> as in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
> would suggest dropping
> accessibil...@apple.com
> And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
>>> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
>>> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
>>> To: Apple Access Ability 
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
>>> Siri).
>>> 
>>> Please investigate.
>>> 
>>> Steps below for your information.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the 
>>> information in if you can’t remember the details.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
>>> 
>>> 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
>>> 
>>> 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
>>> 
>>> 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
>>> 
>>> 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there 
>>> are no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>> 
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New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications although 
they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this problem and if 
so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly but once you reboot 
the watch, they come back but this time it’s not happening. Thank you for your 
help.

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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

Thanks for that, although, for the most part I’ve got Zoom cased.  It just some 
intricacies with managing the little things.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:



There is the free audio book about using Zoom. I don't know if it was shared on 
this list, so here is the link:
https://mosen.org/zoom/ 

Best!

Neboysha



On 22.5.2020. 15:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I would too. It can be hard to figure things out when you are in a meeting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Paul Parravano  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  I’d be very happy to participate in such a gathering, to practice various 
>> Zoom features with the Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 19:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I agree.  I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom.  I haven’t 
>>> found the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can 
>>> mute the chat announcements.  If you wish, and have time, we can set up a 
>>> Zoom meeting and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend 
>>> we’re smarter during the meetings we host or participate in.
>>> 
>>> Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work 
>>> for us.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a 
>>> meeting 
>>> 
 On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Julie, 
 
 I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  > wrote:
> 
> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
> maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to 
> choose who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search 
> field and that is where you typed?
> 
> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
> 
> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone 
> in a zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I 
> identify if others had?
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a 
>> chat to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I 
>> thought I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go 
>> back in to the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there 
>> and it didn’t send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key 
>> strokes to send chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can 
>> mute and unmute myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

Hi,

This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly head.  
I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, but 
sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, then 
log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever and 
whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t work 
either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible work-throughs, but 
for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that you had to suffer with.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.

You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button in 
the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  If 
not, you may be able to add it to the list.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this time 
when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page that was 
asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. how do I 
find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet accounts and 
gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google are checked but 
I can't find passwords. please help.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: passwords in internet accounts

Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.

You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button in 
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On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this time 
when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page that was 
asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. how do I 
find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet accounts and 
gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google are checked but 
I can't find passwords. please help.

thanks.
Lorie

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passwords in internet accounts

every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this time 
when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page that was 
asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. how do I 
find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet accounts and 
gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google are checked but 
I can't find passwords. please help.

thanks.
Lorie

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Hello Brad, I'm curious if you know of a faster way to join a Zoom
meeting from a link if the Mac user is using Chrome. I wrote a message
about this in another thread here but figured I'd ask you just in case
you didn't see my other message. Currently, you have to stop interacting
with the web page, then VO+Left to the app launcher window, then
interact, then VO+Right to the Open Zoom button. If there is a faster
way that you know of for Chrome users, I'd love some advise. Apparently
this isn't an issue with Safari. Also, Chrome used to allow a check box
to remember zoom URLs, but that has apparently gone away for security
reasons.

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On 5/22/2020 11:41 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Hi Andrew,

I thought the website was pretty straight forward. The link to download
the Zoom client is clearly labeled.
If you navigate to the second heading on the page, which is designated
“Heading Level 2, Zoom Client for Meetings”, then the next link will
download the desktop client for whatever platform you are using.

For your convenience, here is the link you need:
Download (Version 5.0.3
(24978.0517))

The other links on the page are Add-Ins and Extensions that are helpful
when scheduling meetings, but are not necessary to join meetings.
Zoom is free to use, but you can choose to upgrade to a Pro account if
you have a need for the higher level features that are provided by this
service.

HTH

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On May 22, 2020, at 05:30, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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Could you help a bit further? There are a few Zoom programmes in the
download section of zoom.us website and I can’t quite
decide which one to go for. Is it a paid service?

Andrew
On 21 May 2020, at 14:11, Brad Snyder > wrote:

I use Zoom on my Macs on pretty much a daily basis. It is extremely
accessible and I find it much easier to use on the Mac than on my
Windows machine.
Zoom is not available from the Mac AppStore, but you can get it for
free from the following link:

/https://zoom.us/download/

There is also an iOS app that is available from the iOS AppStore. It
is also very accessible and easy to use, though not as full featured
as the Mac version.

HTH

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On May 21, 2020, at 06:47, Dezman Jackson > wrote:

Andrew,

Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly,
but you can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom
website.

Dezman

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Hi,

Can we use Zoom on the mac? Anybody had luck doing so? In this
lockdown situation more and more people are using Zoom.

Andrew

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Re: Zoom on the mac?

Hi Andrew,

I thought the website was pretty straight forward.  The link to download the 
Zoom client is clearly labeled.
If you navigate to the second heading on the page, which is designated “Heading 
Level 2, Zoom Client for Meetings”, then the next link will download the 
desktop client for whatever platform you are using.

For your convenience, here is the link you need:
Download  (Version 5.0.3 (24978.0517))

The other links on the page are Add-Ins and Extensions that are helpful when 
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Zoom is free to use, but you can choose to upgrade to a Pro account if you have 
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HTH

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Could you help a bit further?  There are a few Zoom programmes in the download 
section of zoom.us  website and I can’t quite decide which one 
to go for.  Is it a paid service?

Andrew
> On 21 May 2020, at 14:11, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> I use Zoom on my Macs on pretty much a daily basis.  It is extremely 
> accessible and I find it much easier to use on the Mac than on my Windows 
> machine.
> Zoom is not available from the Mac AppStore, but you can get it for free from 
> the following link:
> 
> https://zoom.us/download 
> 
> There is also an iOS app that is available from the iOS AppStore.  It is also 
> very accessible and easy to use, though not as full featured as the Mac 
> version.
> 
> HTH
> 
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> Andrew,
> 
> Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but 
> you can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.
> 
> Dezman 
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>> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
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Re: How do I check the time on the mac?

I am not a big Keyboard Commander user, but I have found that it is not a 
problem using the right Option key on my MacBook Pro keyboard.  It works just 
as it does on my Mac mini with a full sized keyboard.

BTW - the correct Keyboard Commander command for checking the time is OPT + T, 
not OPT by itself.

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On May 22, 2020, at 08:46, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Shirley,

With the keyboard commander turned on, Option-t gives you the time. In 
VoiceOver Utility, in the Commanders category, you can choose whether to use 
the right or left Option key. However, on a laptop, the only sensible choice is 
the righthand Option key since there is no Control key on that side so the 
Option key can’t really be used for the VoiceOver keys.
VO-Shift-k toggles the keyboard commander on and off.
Cheers,

Anne

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> i am looking to know how i check what time it is on my mac? what is the 
> command to do this?
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Re: Joining Zoom meetings more efficiently from Mac using Chrome

Hi Raul,

I don’t use Chrome on the Mac much, but my experience using Safari is similar 
when using a Zoom link to join a meeting.
I don’t think there is any way around the procedure you described.  In response 
to security concerns, Zoom enacted a number of steps on the Mac that I don’t 
believe can be circumvented.

If anyone has information to the contrary, please share.

HTH

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On May 22, 2020, at 08:47, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Howdy folks. Here’s a quick question, and if the answer is simple and easy, I’m 
hoping that others can enlighten me.

Using a Mac and the Google Chrome browser, is there a more efficient way of 
sjoining Zoom meetings when activating a link?

My current process is to press Return on the link, causing the Chrome browser 
to open. Once this happens, I have to stop interacting with the web page, then 
move to the pop-up, interact with it, and then VO+Right to the Open Zoom 
button. Now, I personally don’t have any issues doing this, but in thinking of 
being more efficient, and in showing some of my clients an easier method, I’m 
wondering if there is a different way. For example, does Google Chrome have a 
hot key to focus a pop-up notification. Something similar to focusing other 
areas. In Windows, there is a hot key, Alt+Shift+A, but I haven’t been able to 
find an equivalent
Hot key for Mac.

In doing some research, I found that Chrome used to allow for a check box to 
always and automatically open certain programs based on the link type, but this 
has apparently been removed for security reasons. My goal is to make it so that 
a Mac user who uses Chrome, can simply press Return on a Zoom link, and it will 
open in Chrome, then automatically redirect to Zoom app and enter the meeting.

Thank you, and I hope my message makes sense.


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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

Hi,

The search feature does seem to be broken, or at least odd in its 
implementation.  FaceTime does work though.  You can simply enter a phone 
number in the Search field, press return, then VO-right to the Audio or Video 
button and VO-space on it.  All the proper options will be available to you as 
in using your iPhone or FaceTime Audio calling.

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On May 22, 2020, at 7:58 AM, John Panarese  wrote:

  I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
would suggest dropping
accessibil...@apple.com 
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> On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kawa...@me.com>>
>> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
>> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
>> To: Apple Access Ability > >
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
>> Siri).
>> 
>> Please investigate.
>> 
>> Steps below for your information.
>> 
>> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
>> 
>> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
>> 
>> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the information 
>> in if you can’t remember the details.
>> 
>> 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
>> 
>> 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
>> 
>> 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
>> 
>> 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
>> 
>> 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
>> 
>> 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there are 
>> no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> Thank you very much.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: VoiceOver And iPhone Migration

2020-05-22 Thread Gabe Griffith

Hi, 

When I did this exact thing a couple weeks ago, updating from a 7 to the SE, it 
couldn't have been easier. The new phone asked if I wanted to restore from 
another phone and asked to enter a code that showed up on the phone on the 
device I was restoring from. Once I entered that it walked me through setting 
up things like my touch ID, Apple pay and maybe a couple things then told me to 
leave both phones unlocked and near each other until the restore was complete. 
That process took between 15 minutes and half an hour. The entire process was 
completely accessible and probably the easiest iPhone setup experience I've 
ever had. 

HTH 

Gabe 


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> On May 22, 2020, at 8:33 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes, everything is accessible.  What you’re actually doing is restoring the 
> new iPhone from a backup, so hopefully you’ve been either backing up to 
> iCloud or through iTunes/Finder on a Mac.
> 
> Later…
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> On May 22, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
> I’m upgrading from my iPhone 7 to the new iPhone SE, and the new phone is 
> arriving today. I was hoping I’d be able to use iPhone Migration to transfer 
> from the old to the new device. Will VO give me the right feedback so I can 
> align the two devices properly to do the initial part of the process? Are 
> there any other things I should know before I go this route? I can always 
> fall back to iTunes or iCloud, but the migration process really does seem 
> like it would be the way to go if it works OK with VO.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts or advice,
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unintended freezing of iPhone

2020-05-22 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Hi,

I don’t know when it startet but I guess it must have started one or two weeks 
ago. My iPhone 11 Pro suddenly freezes from time to time for ruffly 5 to 10 
seconds. After that period of time it works normal again. I restarted the 
iPhone but no change.

Has anyone experienced this as well? Is there a way to check the iPhone 
technically to find out if something is broken inside?

Thanks and all the best
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Re: VoiceOver And iPhone Migration

Hi,

Yes, everything is accessible.  What you’re actually doing is restoring the new 
iPhone from a backup, so hopefully you’ve been either backing up to iCloud or 
through iTunes/Finder on a Mac.

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On May 22, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:

Hello all,

I’m upgrading from my iPhone 7 to the new iPhone SE, and the new phone is 
arriving today. I was hoping I’d be able to use iPhone Migration to transfer 
from the old to the new device. Will VO give me the right feedback so I can 
align the two devices properly to do the initial part of the process? Are there 
any other things I should know before I go this route? I can always fall back 
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be the way to go if it works OK with VO.

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Re: How to set up daily digest mode

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• Go to google.com
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• In the table, press on MacVisionaries.
• VO-space on the My Settings menu item.  Not the Settings, but the My Settings.

Configuration options are in there.

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On May 22, 2020, at 9:02 AM, David Carlson  wrote:

Having problem with my mail. Need to reduce the total number of messages coming 
in for now. How do I set up daily digest mode for this list? Thanks.
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How to set up daily digest mode

2020-05-22 Thread David Carlson

Having problem with my mail. Need to reduce the total number of messages coming 
in for now. How do I set up daily digest mode for this list? Thanks.Dave Carlson

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VoiceOver And iPhone Migration

2020-05-22 Thread Pete De Vasto

Hello all,

I’m upgrading from my iPhone 7 to the new iPhone SE, and the new phone is 
arriving today. I was hoping I’d be able to use iPhone Migration to transfer 
from the old to the new device. Will VO give me the right feedback so I can 
align the two devices properly to do the initial part of the process? Are there 
any other things I should know before I go this route? I can always fall back 
to iTunes or iCloud, but the migration process really does seem like it would 
be the way to go if it works OK with VO.

Thanks for any thoughts or advice,
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Deleting Time Macine Backups

2020-05-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   I added an APFS volume to the TM exclusion list. Now I want to 
delete the old backups for that volume. How? I found it in the sidebar 
and from the context menu, select delete but this is not working. Thanks.


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Re: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

2020-05-22 Thread John Panarese

  I have been having similar issues for searching for people in FaceTime. I 
would suggest dropping
accessibil...@apple.com 
And email reporting this with step by step instructions to repeat it.


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> On May 22, 2020, at 5:25 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kawa...@me.com>>
>> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
>> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
>> To: Apple Access Ability > >
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
>> Siri).
>> 
>> Please investigate.
>> 
>> Steps below for your information.
>> 
>> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
>> 
>> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
>> 
>> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the information 
>> in if you can’t remember the details.
>> 
>> 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
>> 
>> 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
>> 
>> 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
>> 
>> 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
>> 
>> 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
>> 
>> 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there are 
>> no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> Thank you very much.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Joining Zoom meetings more efficiently from Mac using Chrome

2020-05-22 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

Howdy folks. Here’s a quick question, and if the answer is simple and easy, I’m 
hoping that others can enlighten me.

Using a Mac and the Google Chrome browser, is there a more efficient way of 
sjoining Zoom meetings when activating a link?

My current process is to press Return on the link, causing the Chrome browser 
to open. Once this happens, I have to stop interacting with the web page, then 
move to the pop-up, interact with it, and then VO+Right to the Open Zoom 
button. Now, I personally don’t have any issues doing this, but in thinking of 
being more efficient, and in showing some of my clients an easier method, I’m 
wondering if there is a different way. For example, does Google Chrome have a 
hot key to focus a pop-up notification. Something similar to focusing other 
areas. In Windows, there is a hot key, Alt+Shift+A, but I haven’t been able to 
find an equivalent
 Hot key for Mac.

In doing some research, I found that Chrome used to allow for a check box to 
always and automatically open certain programs based on the link type, but this 
has apparently been removed for security reasons. My goal is to make it so that 
a Mac user who uses Chrome, can simply press Return on a Zoom link, and it will 
open in Chrome, then automatically redirect to Zoom app and enter the meeting.

Thank you, and I hope my message makes sense.


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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

2020-05-22 Thread Nebojsa Tasic

There is the free audio book about using Zoom. I don't know if it was
shared on this list, so here is the link:

https://mosen.org/zoom/

Best!

Neboysha

On 22.5.2020. 15:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
I would too. It can be hard to figure things out when you are in a
meeting.

Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

On May 22, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Paul Parravano wrote:

I’d be very happy to participate in such a gathering, to practice
various Zoom features with the Mac.

Thanks,

Paul

On May 21, 2020, at 19:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:

Hi,

I agree. I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom. I
haven’t found the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad
version, you can mute the chat announcements. If you wish, and have
time, we can set up a Zoom meeting and practice on some of the
features so that we can pretend we’re smarter during the meetings we
host or participate in.

Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit
more work for us.

Later…

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Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray > wrote:

I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity
during a meeting

On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:

Julie,

I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
Cheers,
Donna

On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray
mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it
sends - maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is
an option to choose who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it
brings up a search field and that is where you typed?

I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself

For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when
someone in a zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but
how would I identify if others had?

On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:

Hi All.

I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not
send a chat to the group. When I typed my question in the chat
edit field, I thought I’d press enter and the message would send.
So when I did go back in to the edit field with vo left arrow,
the chat was still there and it didn’t send to the group. So if
someone could write me the key strokes to send chat using voice
over, I’d be grateful. At least I can mute and unmute myself in
a meeting which is a marked improvement.

Thanks for your help.

Kawal.

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Re: How do I check the time on the mac?

2020-05-22 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Shirley,

With the keyboard commander turned on, Option-t gives you the time. In 
VoiceOver Utility, in the Commanders category, you can choose whether to use 
the right or left Option key. However, on a laptop, the only sensible choice is 
the righthand Option key since there is no Control key on that side so the 
Option key can’t really be used for the VoiceOver keys.
VO-Shift-k toggles the keyboard commander on and off.
Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Face time on the Mac is broken or not?

2020-05-22 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Yes this is a bug i guess.
Will send them a note.
Do you by the way have the latest catalina update that was released yesterday?
/A

> 21 maj 2020 kl. 23:41 skrev 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I tried making a face time call on the Mac but when I typed the person’s name 
> etc in the edit box, you could here what you wanted but when you vo right to 
> the table, there was nothing in the table.  Are others having this result?
> 
> Also if you open contacts and you find contact details for the person, you 
> interact and find the details, if you vo M normally you get choices of what 
> you’d like to do.  There is a face time button but no label to make a face 
> time audio call or face time video call.  All you have is a call button or 
> send message button.  So if someone could tell me if they get the same thing 
> using voice over then I can write to Apple Accessibility.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
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How do I check the time on the mac?

2020-05-22 Thread Shirley Healy

i am looking to know how i check what time it is on my mac? what is the command 
to do this?
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How do I set up daily digest mode on this list?

2020-05-22 Thread David Carlson

I am having trouble with my email. I am having to look at our messages on the 
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

2020-05-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

I would too. It can be hard to figure things out when you are in a meeting.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 22, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Paul Parravano  wrote:
> 
>  I’d be very happy to participate in such a gathering, to practice various 
> Zoom features with the Mac.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 19:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree.  I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom.  I haven’t 
>> found the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can 
>> mute the chat announcements.  If you wish, and have time, we can set up a 
>> Zoom meeting and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend 
>> we’re smarter during the meetings we host or participate in.
>> 
>> Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work 
>> for us.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a 
>>> meeting 
>>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Julie, 
>>> 
>>> I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  
 wrote:
 
 Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
 maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to 
 choose who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search 
 field and that is where you typed?
 
 I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
 
 For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in 
 a zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I 
 identify if others had?
 
> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi All.
> 
> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a 
> chat to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I 
> thought I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go 
> back in to the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there 
> and it didn’t send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key 
> strokes to send chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can 
> mute and unmute myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

2020-05-22 Thread Paul Parravano

I’d be very happy to participate in such a gathering, to practice various Zoom
features with the Mac.

Thanks,

Paul

On May 21, 2020, at 19:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I agree. I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom. I haven’t found
the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can mute the
chat announcements. If you wish, and have time, we can set up a Zoom meeting
and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend we’re smarter
during the meetings we host or participate in.

Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work for
us.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray
mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a meeting

On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Julie,

I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
Cheers,
Donna

On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray
mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - maybe
someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose who it
goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and that is
where you typed?

I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself

For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a
zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if
others had?

On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi All.

I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat to
the group. When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought I’d
press enter and the message would send. So when I did go back in to the edit
field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send to the
group. So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat using voice
over, I’d be grateful. At least I can mute and unmute myself in a meeting
which is a marked improvement.

Thanks for your help.

Kawal.

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Re: Zoom on the mac?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

Zoom US is the one you want and it’s free.

Kawal.

> On 22 May 2020, at 11:30, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Could you help a bit further?  There are a few Zoom programmes in the 
> download section of zoom.us  website and I can’t quite 
> decide which one to go for.  Is it a paid service?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 May 2020, at 14:11, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
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>> I use Zoom on my Macs on pretty much a daily basis.  It is extremely 
>> accessible and I find it much easier to use on the Mac than on my Windows 
>> machine.
>> Zoom is not available from the Mac AppStore, but you can get it for free 
>> from the following link:
>> 
>> https://zoom.us/download 
>> 
>> There is also an iOS app that is available from the iOS AppStore.  It is 
>> also very accessible and easy to use, though not as full featured as the Mac 
>> version.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 06:47, Dezman Jackson > > wrote:
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>> Andrew,
>> 
>> Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but 
>> you can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.
>> 
>> Dezman 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:56 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>>> Hi,
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>>> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
>>> situation more and more people are using Zoom.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: Zoom on the mac?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries

Could you help a bit further?  There are a few Zoom programmes in the download 
section of zoom.us  website and I can’t quite decide which one 
to go for.  Is it a paid service?

Andrew
> On 21 May 2020, at 14:11, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I use Zoom on my Macs on pretty much a daily basis.  It is extremely 
> accessible and I find it much easier to use on the Mac than on my Windows 
> machine.
> Zoom is not available from the Mac AppStore, but you can get it for free from 
> the following link:
> 
> https://zoom.us/download 
> 
> There is also an iOS app that is available from the iOS AppStore.  It is also 
> very accessible and easy to use, though not as full featured as the Mac 
> version.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 06:47, Dezman Jackson  > wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but 
> you can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.
> 
> Dezman 
> 
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>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
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RE: Music shortcut and repeating

What track is 20 minutes long?

Stair way to heaven is only 10 or so,

I’m guessing you have looked at the short cut to see if anything has changed?

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Subject: Music shortcut and repeating

Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
solution. However now when I invoke the shortcut it will play the track and 
then repeat it again. This has only happened in the last week or so. I can’t 
remember changing anything in my settings but I might have done.
I thought about using the song as an alarm but it is 20 minutes long and the 
alarm stops after 10 minutes.
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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RE: Convirtió MP3 files

Hi Petrus,

How many books do you have and are you looking to convert them to m4b file 
types?

I have windows machines with itunes which will convert mp3 to the m4b formats.

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Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 11:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convirtió MP3 files

Thanks, I’ll check with the boss first before I buy it as she is the holder of 
the finances in our family sharing account.


On 22/05/2020, at 11:25, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Yes, I’m pretty sure that I did pay $9.99 CAD as well.  They may have made it 
available in the App Store now for easier visibility.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave up.


On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would be 
able to use the exact same name for an app.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2  
but not sure if that was the same one.


On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But I 
Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve got 
lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to convert and 
import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it would be nice 
as well if one has the time.
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
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RE: Convirtió MP3 files

Hi Petrus,

Have you tried chrome?

I do find chrome friendlier sometimes.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 11:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convirtió MP3 files

Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave up.


On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would be 
able to use the exact same name for an app.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2  
but not sure if that was the same one.


On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But I 
Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve got 
lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to convert and 
import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it would be nice 
as well if one has the time.
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
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RE: Convirtió MP3 files

I always thought typos was caused by my bad English language skills,

Now I know it’s gremlins
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 11:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convirtió MP3 files

Hi,

Typos are never your fault, it’s those silly gremlins that invade our 
computers.  I believe that the app is found on the web.  It was quite a while 
ago that I got it, but a Google search hopefully would still find it for you.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,
Is that in the App Store or Does one need to go to a web-site for it?
Not sure how that typo happened in the subject line as I’m sure it was correct 
before I sent it.

On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But I 
Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve got 
lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to convert and 
import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it would be nice 
as well if one has the time.
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

So where is this app on the I phone as I updated my phone this morning and 
thought I’d find the settings for the app in health.  However I am in the UK 
and the Government are not wanting to use it.  I think they should as their NHS 
app is not working for them and they are under pressure to do tract trace as 
the schools won’t open if they don’t well some of them!

Kawal.

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:42, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Yeah Petrus 
> I had a look at it lastnight but haven’t done anything with it.
>  
> It turns out most businesses don’t have the qr codes relating to the app and 
> store related information.
>  
> Good old government slow behind the 8 ball,
> But oh well can’t blaim them really they’re working pretty bloody hard to 
> keep things spinning
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 9:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?
>  
> Hi Tim,
> I found it under settings, privacy, and bluetooth as well. We have a covid 
> tracing app in New Zealand that was released yesterday but it hasn’t got 
> bluetooth capability yet. We have been told that it is coming in future 
> updates. 
> 
> 
> On 22/05/2020, at 07:53, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Go to Settings, Privacy, Health.  Sorry, forgot to mention the Health part of 
> the equation.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 21, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
>  
> You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings 
> about the app.
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
> you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
> apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really 
> a bust.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details 
> of how it works.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, 
> I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed 
> it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID 
> tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do to 
> utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect 
> people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries

So where is this app on the I phone as I updated my phone this morning and 
thought I’d find the settings for the app in health.  However I am in the UK 
and the Government are not wanting to use it.  I think they should as their NHS 
app is not working for them and they are under pressure to do tract trace as 
the schools won’t open if they don’t well some of them!

Kawal.

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:42, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah Petrus 
> I had a look at it lastnight but haven’t done anything with it.
>  
> It turns out most businesses don’t have the qr codes relating to the app and 
> store related information.
>  
> Good old government slow behind the 8 ball,
> But oh well can’t blaim them really they’re working pretty bloody hard to 
> keep things spinning
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 9:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?
>  
> Hi Tim,
> I found it under settings, privacy, and bluetooth as well. We have a covid 
> tracing app in New Zealand that was released yesterday but it hasn’t got 
> bluetooth capability yet. We have been told that it is coming in future 
> updates. 
> 
> 
> On 22/05/2020, at 07:53, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Go to Settings, Privacy, Health.  Sorry, forgot to mention the Health part of 
> the equation.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 21, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
>  
> You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings 
> about the app.
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
> you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
> apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really 
> a bust.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details 
> of how it works.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, 
> I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed 
> it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID 
> tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do to 
> utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect 
> people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
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RE: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

Yeah Petrus
I had a look at it lastnight but haven’t done anything with it.

It turns out most businesses don’t have the qr codes relating to the app and 
store related information.

Good old government slow behind the 8 ball,
But oh well can’t blaim them really they’re working pretty bloody hard to keep 
things spinning

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 9:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

Hi Tim,
I found it under settings, privacy, and bluetooth as well. We have a covid 
tracing app in New Zealand that was released yesterday but it hasn’t got 
bluetooth capability yet. We have been told that it is coming in future updates.


On 22/05/2020, at 07:53, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Go to Settings, Privacy, Health.  Sorry, forgot to mention the Health part of 
the equation.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings about 
the app.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really a 
bust.
Cheers,
Donna



On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details 
of how it works.

Later…



Sent from my iPhone


On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. Problem 
is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me that it 
can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, I went to 
the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed it, and 
answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID tracking 
in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do to utilize 
this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect people to use 
this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Zoom on the mac?

2020-05-22 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Sure you can.
Works like a charm to.
/A

> 21 maj 2020 kl. 11:56 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
> situation more and more people are using Zoom.
> 
> Andrew
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RE: Burning CDs and cats

I’m hoping you’re meaning burn the cat to the cd and not roast it for supper!?

A similar thing has happened to a staff member at work,

The kitten has done something on the keyboard to kill the managed desktop on 
the staff members windows desktop while working from home.

She took a photo of the kitten sitting at the keyboard looking very cute,
And a what me?! Type of look on it’s face!

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2020 9:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Burning CDs and cats

No need to say sorry, I laughed as well, although I didn’t have to burn the cat 
as she didn’t do any harm in the end.


On 22/05/2020, at 01:41, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Sorry, that was funny and I laughed.


On 21 May 2020, at 09:33, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Did you ask the cat what she did?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Burning CDs and cats

Hi all,
Excuse the rather odd subject of this email, but all will be explained.
I was burning a MP3  audio book collection on to a writable DVD for my work 
colleague and walked away for a moment. I had a nice little progress indicator 
up on the screen telling me the progress. I’m not sure what this looks like 
visually but one of my cats thought it looked pretty cool and let on to my 
keyboard while I was away. I heard voice over saying something while I was at 
the other end of the house so came back to check as the burn was only about 
half way through. The cat jumped off the keyboard as I came back in to the room 
but she managed to get rid of the progress indicator, lucky she didn’t stop the 
burning process. I had no idea how to bring the progress indicator back  up on 
the screen? How does one do this? I know I could have asked this question 
without the cat detail, but I thought it was pretty funny. Especially the 
little blurb noise she made as she ran away knowing she did something wrong. I 
wasn’t sure if I could put the. Lid down on the MacBook while burning a CD? Or 
I would have done it as the cat does enjoy the flashing lights and colours on 
the screen.
Thanks,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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Fwd: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.

2020-05-22 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries



> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
> Subject: Face Time using Voice Over with Mac.
> Date: 22 May 2020 at 10:22:54 BST
> To: Apple Access Ability 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I am not able to use Face Time on the Mac if using Voice Over (rather than 
> Siri).
> 
> Please investigate.
> 
> Steps below for your information.
> 
> 1.  Open Face time on the Mac.
> 
> 2.  Vo right arrow to the search field and interact.
> 
> 3.  Type in contact name or email or phone number.  Or Paste the information 
> in if you can’t remember the details.
> 
> 4.  Voice Over will give you the information as you type.
> 
> 5.  Move to the right with vo right arrow to the table.
> 
> 6.  Interact with the table and there is no information in the table.
> 
> 7. Open contacts on the Mac.
> 
> 8. Search for the contact you’d like to have Face time with.
> 
> 9..  Please interact with the contact table and you will note that there are 
> no Face Time labels such as audio face time or video face time.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Kawal.

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