Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-21 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
>> They were going to get a 4xx anyway. I changed the message to *help* >> SendGrid. Yes but if you can change the message for SendGrid only, you can accept the mail and let it through >> Where do I find out what the IP/domain is? Is it in my mail logs, Apparently you were a

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On 2023-06-22 02:05:40, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > >> They were going to get a 4xx anyway. I changed the message to *help* > >> SendGrid. > > Yes but if you can change the message for SendGrid only, you can > accept the mail and let it through... Apparen

Re: [mailop] Recommendations for mail campaign services

2021-05-05 Thread Brian Weir via mailop
They are not known for having a positive reputation in general. If you search the archives of this list, you will see various experiences people have had. I have a vendor who used SendGrid to send notifications for their app to my agency. The SendGrid mail server ip’s would be blacklisted

[mailop] Sendgrid and phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Tim Bray via mailop
Hi, Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid?  They look fairly convincing. A few paypals, and a few amazons. I thought sendgrid were ok?    Has somebody leaked a big pile of sendgrid usernames and passwords or something? -- Tim Bray Huddersfield, GB t...@kooky.org

Re: [mailop] Gmail inboxing help

2021-02-18 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
page, they are sent a > confirmation via a Smartertools email. > 2.) We use SendGrid to email them in the future with newsletters, tools, and > other marketing information. > 3.) We just aren't inboxing with Gmail. Never have, despite the customer > opting in. > > Questions:  >

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 3/22/24 14:58, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: If they are 'dedicated', doesn't matter if they are coming from SendGrid, the PTR should reflect your clients domain. host 149.72.234.90 90.234.72.149.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer wrqvzxrx.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net

Re: [mailop] Gmail blocking of good customer

2023-02-25 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Simon Greenwood via mailop skrev den 2023-02-24 22:09: This (which I didn't know) adds a whole different aspect to the issue - much has been said about how email is now centralised and is almost impractical to run as a small operator level, but if a company like Shopify and indeed Sen

[mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-04 Thread Kyle Thorne via mailop
Hi everyone, Is anyone from SendGrid on-list that can help with an abuse report that has gone unanswered? We have two tickets with SendGrid that have *no response: *4218173 and 4278230. This fraud account is phishing our users, so there's no reason SendGrid shouldn't be able to sus

Re: [mailop] Gmail inboxing help

2021-02-18 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
Smartertools email. 2.) We use SendGrid to email them in the future with newsletters, tools, and other marketing information. 3.) We just aren't inboxing with Gmail. Never have, despite the customer opting in. Questions: 1.) Can anyone recommend a solution? 2.) Should we be integrating Smarter

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
of the few things that is specifically illegal under CAN SPAM. Perhaps we can collect them all and then sue both Sendgrid and Zoom. So, just an update... I can confirm, for sure, that there's no actual Zoom / Sendgrid unsubscribe link in the spams based on the most recent spams that I allowe

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-19 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2020-08-18 20:23:37 (+0800), Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. The one I've seen most often is 12340469 with 9789821 a close second and 8512936 in third place. Given that these are so blatant, I don't believe there'

Re: [mailop] Intuit directly spaming

2023-02-27 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Interesting to me Atro said this is sendgrid. I saw sendgrid format > sender address but headers do no show any sendgrid. So now its > harder to give due suspision on sendgrid because they give full > infrastructure to rent for other domain like intuit? Yes. Full headers (munged of

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-08 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
ded. > > Thanks, everyone. > > Luke > I have a hunch that some time ago (just before the increased spam via SendGrid started) there might have been an unauthorized access to SendGrid customer data which allowed hackers to bruteforce hashed passwords and use valid accounts to send

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-12 Thread Tim Bray via mailop
On 11/08/2020 20:41, Matt Harris via mailop wrote: We'd been using sendgrid in production for some stuff, but we're looking at changing that now because it seems like their lack of concern regarding abuse on their platform will lead to more and more deliverability issu

Re: [mailop] [External] Fake fax spam from sendgrid

2020-10-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 10/19/2020 8:29 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: > I'm getting a steady stream of spam from Sendgrid purporting to be > Efax messages, with what appears to be an XLS spreadsheet attached. > The return addresses are all over the place but they all come through > Sendgrid, e.g.

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-21 Thread Luke via mailop
, email geeks, maawg slack, linkedin, abuse@, support@. I bet you'd find someone willing to help correct the issue. I work at sendgrid and manage response handling. If someone were to reach out with an obvious problem, I'd be willing and able to adjust our response handling appropriate

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Hokan via mailop
I've instituted short-term blocks of Sendgrid mail several times this year and started another today because it looks like as much as a third of the mail they've sent us in the past week has been evil -- mostly phishing. This is a problem for me because some of the mail Sendgrid sends

Re: [mailop] Gmail blocking of good customer

2023-02-25 Thread Simon Greenwood via mailop
level, but if a company like Shopify and indeed Sendgrid can't assure mail delivery because the largest mail operators will reject mail sporadically based on non-specific criteria, and more that someone in Christine's position doesn't have someone they can call at Google or Microso

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-06 Thread Andre van Eyssen via mailop
On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: If you block only spammers you'd be right. But SendGrid is one of the sorry cases where you have spam and legit, sometimes important e-mails coming from the same network. Your users won't be happy if you reject their order con

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 11.08.20 um 16:53 schrieb Benoit Panizzon via mailop: > Hi List > > o1678912x138.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.12.138] and IP under > control of sendgrid was repeatedly involved in phishing and other spam > since June. > > It ended up being blacklisted @ SWINO

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Huh, I'm not seeing that Sendgrid account ID in my traps at all in the last few days. Different traps for different folks, I guess? Cheers, Al On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:06 PM Luke via mailop wrote: > > In the Return-Path. "bounces+1234567" the number following bounce

Re: [mailop] [External] sendgrid.net

2020-09-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
just block them completely? > I've been very saddened.  Sendgrid was a reputable ESP that has fallen from grace.  About 6-7 months ago, we started seeing pretty large amounts of spam from them.  I've personally tried reaching out to Twilio / Sendgrid leadership to alert them to the issue.

[mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-01-08 Thread Brie via mailop
Hi Sendgrid and Zoom, We've been over this before, multiple times... But alas, it looks like that you neither of you seem to care a single bit about your services being used to send spams that can't be unsubscribed from. Yep, I know you, Sendgrid, told me that you'd be wor

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On 2020-08-11 16:53:46, Benoit Panizzon via mailop wrote: > > Now a sendgrid customers complains to us, that his emails are being > rejected because of this listing. > > But that makes me wonder: Doesn't sendgrid deal with such issues like > asking for delisting after blo

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Luke via mailop
In the Return-Path. "bounces+1234567" the number following bounces+ is the SendGrid account ID. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:57 AM Carl Byington via mailop wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-08 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
[167.89.93.232]) Yes, the mail arrives from systems with rdns of *.sg.zoom.us, but my understanding is that the X-Entity-ID points to a sendgrid user. And the headers include stuff like: Received: by filter1889p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1889p1las1-10585-60DE6FD0-E 2021-07-02 01:45

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-01-09 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Yep, I know you, Sendgrid, told me that you'd be working on it with > Zoom. And, as expected, nothing ever happened and they still keep > coming. About 0.3% of the spams that Koli-Lõks spamtraps got from SendGrid in December 2021 matched .zoom.us. It's large enough to

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Jesse Thompson via mailop
On 6/17/20 1:50 PM, Robert L Mathews via mailop wrote: > Several months ago I suggested (among other things) that SendGrid block > "From" headers matching prominent domain names until the messages have > been manually reviewed. The fact that "don't let random customers

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-20 Thread Brielle via mailop
These still seem to be coming in quite consistently... Same Zoom sendgrid account. Any updates on whats going on with this, Luke? On 7/6/21 2:44 PM, Brielle via mailop wrote: Here's the two that they all share: Return-path: Return-path: (original unmunged version sent directly t

[mailop] SendGrid and Phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Len Shneyder via mailop
-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:00:35 +0100 From: Tim Bray To: mailop Subject: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing Message-ID: <1f6aca35-94ef-70a0-bd75-49a5d632d...@kooky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi, Anybod

Re: [mailop] Intuit directly spaming

2023-03-05 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
turned 1 object > >refer:whois.arin.net > >as-block: 10240-12287 >organisation: Assigned by ARIN > >whois:whois.arin.net >descr:Assigned by ARIN > >source: IANA > ># whois.arin.net > >ASNumber: 11377 >ASName: S

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-24 Thread SM via mailop
Hello, At 05:23 AM 18-08-2020, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. I am receiving emails from Sendgrid about "Nedbank Credit Card monthly Charges eStatement". The account is 17343945. It looks like a phishing attempt. Th

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Faisal Misle via mailop
ed on." Best, Faisal PGP Key: [C8FD029B](https://pgp.faisal.ec/) On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 8:00 AM, Tim Bray via mailop wrote: > Hi, > > Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid? They look > fairly convincing. > > A few paypals, and a few amazons. > > I thou

[mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Benoit Panizzon via mailop
Hi List o1678912x138.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.12.138] and IP under control of sendgrid was repeatedly involved in phishing and other spam since June. It ended up being blacklisted @ SWINOG. Now a sendgrid customers complains to us, that his emails are being rejected because of this

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. Method: get all SendGrid mail from yesterday and today, restrict to anything that says "quota full" in the subject, look at accounts sending. Sample size is measured in the dozens, across about ten recipient domains. They were a

Re: [mailop] SendGrid, what happens when you don't address the root problem (Indeed Phishing)

2022-04-19 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> You think we would be done with SendGrid conversations two years ago.. No such thing. > And two hours later, a phishing attempt from a SendGrid IP hit the > spam folder... > > Return-Path: > Received: from wrqvndzq.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net (HELO > wrqvndzq.outbo

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-09 Thread Luke via mailop
hat they are doing with that > > mail stream, but it doesn't look good. > > > > Both of the accounts reported by Michael have been suspended. > > > > Thanks, everyone. > > > > Luke > > > I have a hunch that some time ago (just before the incr

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 07:48:12AM -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > Since on the topic of SendGrid.. http://mainsleaze.spambouncer.org/2019-11-to-2020-04-in-spamtraps-esps/ The trends for Salesforce and SendGrid are remarkably upwards... -- Atro Tossavainen, Chairman of the Bo

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Len Shneyder via mailop
il_signature> EMAIL l...@twilio.com TWITTER @LenShneyder <https://twitter.com/LenShneyder>Message: 6 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:53:46 +0200 From: Benoit Panizzon To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign. Mes

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-23 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 08:03:40PM +0200, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote: > how about elaborating a bit further on the whats and whys of your setup? Maybe some of us could learn something from that, or maybe SendGrid would consider that to be giving an advantage to competitors. Rea

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
Thank you everyone. Is there any recommendation on other 3rd party senders that can be trusted instead of SendGrid. My last resort will be to setup some MTA's with the few free IP they have from the Datacenter. I also understand that the client is in the middle of a catch-22 in ter

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 06:00:44AM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > Any chance SendGrid might amend its ticket system so that there would > be autoreplies when tickets are created that showed issue numbers > connected with the original request It would also be great if

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Benoît Panizzon via mailop
Hi > Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid?  They look > fairly convincing. > > A few paypals, and a few amazons. Add Netflix Add Joe-Jobs > I thought sendgrid were ok?    Has somebody leaked a big pile of > sendgrid usernames and passwords or something?

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
an not in any reasonable stretch be put into the same bucket as child pornography and beheading videos. Trying to make /that/ argument is what is really irresponsible. > As someone else already said, Sendgrid is not the government. They > have every right to decline to sign up undesirable custome

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-06 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
correspond to the SendGrid user IDs Return-Path: Here's the two that they all share: > > Return-path: > Return-path: > > (original unmunged version sent directly to you, Luke) > > I've got zoom messages via sendgrid being rejected via a system > filter curr

Re: [mailop] [External] sendgrid sending spam claiming to be chase.com

2019-12-24 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 12/23/2019 10:42 PM, Carl Byington via mailop wrote: > The spam was sent with a From: header of @email.chase.com. > _dmarc.email.chase.com. has a txt record with p=reject, so it was > rejected here. Sendgrid - you should be able to check that at your end, > and just not send a

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-04 Thread Will Boyd via mailop
; Hi everyone, > > Is anyone from SendGrid on-list that can help with an abuse report that > has gone unanswered? > > We have two tickets with SendGrid that have *no response: *4218173 and > 4278230. > > This fraud account is phishing our users, so there's no reason Sen

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara via mailop
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 18:49, Rob McEwen via mailop wrote: > These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len > Shneyder > and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but - > considering what is coming > FROM SendGrid in recent

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-21 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
>>The RFC forbids doing that, and I argued against it The RFC and reality is two different things. If a client don't want to retry, I think they are free to choose to not retry. Why even send retry requests to SendGrid? Just accept the email, whats the problem? If your antivi

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Carl Byington via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. Where do you find that account number in the headers? I see some from today with "Upgrade (FINAL WARNING)

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-08 Thread Luke via mailop
.us [149.72.199.144]) > > > >> Received: from o12.ptr3622.sg.zoom.us (o12.ptr3622.sg.zoom.us > >> [167.89.93.232]) > > > > Yes, the mail arrives from systems with rdns of *.sg.zoom.us, but my > > understanding is that the X-Entity-ID points to a s

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-20 Thread Brie via mailop
So, hey, yeah, Sendgrid and Zoom... It's still going on even though it was 'being looked into'. Why do you not respect permanent errors when delivering? My system is rejecting the mails, so Sendgrid's systems should be marking the mails as undeliverables and removing the

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Alexander Zeh via mailop
Hello, > It would also be great if SendGrid would include an abuse reporting > URL in the headers of each message, specific to that message, i.e. > that passes along all info that SendGrid would need to identify that > campaign/client. I’m not so sure about that, having in mind t

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:00:35 +0100, Tim Bray via mailop wrote: >Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid?  They look >fairly convincing. General spam (several per week) and phishing, especially some very nicely done "Reconfirm you Netflix payment method" at

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-20 Thread Alan Hodgson via mailop
On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 14:34 -0700, Carl Byington via mailop wrote: > > dhl is asking folks to reject that mail, but sendgrid tries to send it > anyway. > Sendgrid doesn't seem to do any From: address authentication. They're sending email pretending to be from all kinds

[mailop] Fake fax spam from sendgrid

2020-10-19 Thread John Levine via mailop
I'm getting a steady stream of spam from Sendgrid purporting to be Efax messages, with what appears to be an XLS spreadsheet attached. The return addresses are all over the place but they all come through Sendgrid, e.g., Subject: E-FAX - 963554 DNW You have a new fax! Click the attachme

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

2021-01-22 Thread Gregory Heytings via mailop
Bulk mail, email marketing, consumer email, enterprise email. Those are all different businesses. Just because a company does one thing doesn't mean it should be doing (or be good at) the other.  That's correct, but in that case what Sendgrid should do is to use a specific sub

[mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
Hello, Anyone here have a contact for Zoom in re of webinar spam being sent from their platform via Sendgrid owned IPs? I'm rather unhappy with the fact they're allowing people to spam with no unsubscribe or report feature. I know Sendgrid is a hot steaming pile of dog excrement

[mailop] ANNOUNCEMENT: The NEW invaluement "Service Provider DNSBLs" - 1st one for Sendgrid-spams!

2020-08-21 Thread Rob McEwen via mailop
ANNOUNCEMENT: The NEW invaluement "Service Provider DNSBLs" - 1st one for Sendgrid-spams! ...a collection of a new TYPE of DNSBL, with the FIRST of these having a focus on Sendgrid-sent spams. AND - there is a FREE version of this - that can be used NOW! (/well... might need a Sp

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid again...

2021-01-22 Thread Gregory Heytings via mailop
Are you sure that it was Sendgrid that blocked the message ? Looks to me as if ab...@sendgrid.com is hosted at gmail and it was *gmail* that objected to the content ... Or am I misunderstanding something ? No, of course you're right. But forwarding an abuse address that is som

[mailop] Gmail inboxing help

2021-02-18 Thread Lauren Donovan via mailop
Hi Everyone, I am wondering if someone here might have some insight into an issue I am experiencing with Gmail customers. Here are the details: 1.) When the customers click to opt-in on our form page, they are sent a confirmation via a Smartertools email. 2.) We use SendGrid to email them in the

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-08 Thread Carl Byington via mailop
67.89.93.232]) Yes, the mail arrives from systems with rdns of *.sg.zoom.us, but my understanding is that the X-Entity-ID points to a sendgrid user. And the headers include stuff like: Received: by filter1889p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1889p1las1-10585-60DE6FD0-E 2021-07-02 01:45:

Re: [mailop] SendGrid, what happens when you don't address the root problem (Indeed Phishing)

2022-04-19 Thread Robert L Mathews via mailop
On 4/19/22 1:46 PM, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: They're definitely the biggest ESP in our spamtraps, have been for more than a year solid. Yep. As most probably remember, someone from SendGrid came on the list for a while, made some noises about cleaning things up, and

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
Here's the two that they all share: Return-path: Return-path: (original unmunged version sent directly to you, Luke) I've got zoom messages via sendgrid being rejected via a system filter currently, so there should be a bit of bounce messages going back at Zoom/Sendgrid, but yet

Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Matt Harris via mailop
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM Michael Orlitzky via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > In the past few months there have been several threads on mailop and > similar lists (sdlu, spamassassin-users, nanog, ...) complaining about > how SendGrid doesn't seem to do anythin

Re: [mailop] mailop Digest, Vol 12, Issue 40

2021-07-20 Thread Len Shneyder via mailop
t: Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid > (ugh) > Message-ID: <737bf486-f945-c64b-a7ef-9575e1f6d...@2mbit.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > These still seem to be coming in quite consistently... Same Zoom > sendg

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-01-08 Thread Noel Butler via mailop
On 09/01/2022 13:44, Brie via mailop wrote: Hi Sendgrid and Zoom, We've been over this before, multiple times... But alas, it looks like that you neither of you seem to care a single bit about your services being used to send spams that can't be unsubscribed from. Yep,

[mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-11 Thread Rob McEwen via mailop
These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len Shneyder and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but - considering what is coming FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this the right time to be giving OTHERS anti-abuse/security advice? Just.

Re: [mailop] Gmail blocking of good customer

2023-02-27 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Kelly Molloy via mailop said: >On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 7:14 PM Matt Palmer via mailop > wrote: >> That's something to talk to your ESP about. They're in charge of retrying. > >Christine *is* the ESP. She's at Shopify, but Sendgrid is the E

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On 2023-06-22 00:32:37, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > Why even send retry requests to SendGrid? > Just accept the email, whats the problem? > > If your antivirus or mail scanning solution requires some time, > buffer the email at your server instead. I do understand i

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-04 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
cket numbers to follow up. Thanks Will for picking up. Any chance SendGrid might amend its ticket system so that there would be autoreplies when tickets are created that showed issue numbers connected with the original request, and/or that any further correspondence would similarly include anything from

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 02:15:07PM +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 06:00:44AM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > > Any chance SendGrid might amend its ticket system so that there would > > be autoreplies when tickets are crea

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-13 Thread Camille - Clean Mailbox via mailop
a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but - >> considering what is coming >> FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this the right time to be giving OTHERS >> anti-abuse/security >> advice? Just... wow! I think they should instead consider trying to "lead by >&g

Re: [mailop] mailop Digest, Vol 12, Issue 40

2021-07-20 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
x27;d like to confirm that Zoom is sending quite a bit to our spamtraps too. Unredacted headers are not forthcoming as we're not interested in revealing spamtraps. I should also say that I find it offensive for SendGrid support employees to ask for the same in support responses, which seems t

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On Sat, 2023-06-24 at 08:42 +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > In the specific case at hand it seems that the OP is greylisting > SendGrid for being on some sort of blocklist, and the specific > mention of "blacklist" in the 4xx response is hitting a SendGrid > h

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 3/22/23 01:35, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: I tried to report a phishing spam to Sendgrid, and look what I got: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - (reason: 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content presents a potential

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Sendgrid again...

2021-01-22 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 1/22/21 10:51 AM, Gregory Heytings via mailop wrote: That's correct, but in that case what Sendgrid should do is to use a specific subdomain for abuse reports, e.g. use ab...@abuse.sendgrid.com instead of ab...@sendgrid.com, and run their own mailserver on abuse.sendgrid.com.  If two

[mailop] Mystery SPF softfail at gmail.

2015-11-18 Thread Luke Martinez
-0800 (PST) > X-Received: by 10.107.10.233 with SMTP id > 102mr38147900iok.31.1447771620037; > Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:47:00 -0800 (PST) > Return-Path: sendgrid@email.domain.com> > Received: from o1.mail_sg1.DOMAIN.com (o1.mail_sg1.DOMAIN.com. > [167.89.67.18

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-11 Thread Luke via mailop
The very first reply to this thread was from a SendGrid representative. They generally respond pretty quickly any time they are mentioned here. Luke On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:24 AM Brielle via mailop wrote: > On 5/11/2020 11:45 AM, Matt V via mailop wrote: > > On 2020-05-05 11:09 p

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing

2020-06-17 Thread Alan Hodgson via mailop
On Wed, 2020-06-17 at 08:55 -0500, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:00:35 +0100, Tim Bray via mailop w > rote: > > Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid? They look fairly > > convincing. > > General spam (several per week) and p

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid again...

2021-01-22 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 22.01.21 um 15:22 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via mailop: > > Are you sure that it was Sendgrid that blocked the message ? > Looks to me as if ab...@sendgrid.com is hosted at gmail and > it was *gmail* that objected to the content ... > > Or am I misunderstanding something

Re: [mailop] Unsolicited messages from *.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net

2024-10-14 Thread Robert Giles via mailop
On 10/14/2024 at 05:31, Paul Menzel via mailop wrote: Since at least September 17th, 2024, we receive a lot of unsolicited messages from SendGrid. I forwarded five to ab...@sendgrid.net, but there was no reply and the problem persists. Today at least five messages from xvfrkpcc.outbound

[mailop] [OFFLIST] Re: Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip used in recent phishing campaign.

2020-08-11 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
; TWITTER @LenShneyder <https://twitter.com/LenShneyder> Message: 6 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:53:46 +0200 From: Benoit Panizzon <mailto:benoit.paniz...@imp.ch>> To: mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer abou

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 7.10.2019 o godz. 10:43:14 Scott Techlist via mailop pisze: > > What about relaying outbound mail via services like Sendgrid? Not sure it > that will make it better, or worse since they send marketing stuff. And > Google probably looking at the source server headers anyway. M

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-20 Thread Ángel via mailop
eed caused by > mails actually sent from sendgrid. For example, > and +6019856-0d96-@sg.e.doodle.com> are doodle notifications > sent to two different mail addresses. I don't know whether the time > also takes part in the hash computation (as in SRS). I see the same later

Re: [mailop] [External] sendgrid.net

2020-09-25 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop
> I've been very saddened. Sendgrid was a reputable ESP that has fallen > from grace. About 6-7 months ago, we started seeing pretty large > amounts of spam from them. Exactly - this tracks with the timeline when a) they ceased being certified by us, b) certain key people

Re: [mailop] I understand less and less why I accept any mail at all from Sendgrid

2022-08-16 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
On 2022-08-15 17:42, Stuart Henderson via mailop wrote: yes yes, but the point is that Twilio SendGrid are allowing their services to be used by whoever is sending this. With a website saying things like "We take trust and security seriously" and "With the industry’s largest t

Re: [mailop] Gmail blocking of good customer

2023-02-25 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
? > > this is softfails not hardfails, so mail in queue will try next 5 days > to deliver it, if that expire it would be returned to sender It is transient, but they are blocks and are not retried. Weird, right? That's something to talk to your ESP about. They're in char

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-19 Thread Chris via mailop
I'm seeing a very significant drop off of sendgrid-originated spam. Couple of minor phish/419 in the past 24 hours. Anybody else? ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Carl Byington via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 12:03 +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk" So sendgrid account 15204622 was sending mail as: Received: from dhl.com (unknown) by ismtpd0005p1lon1.sendgrid.net (SG)

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Mark Fletcher via mailop
ten very subjective opinion - against > another' subjective opinion - about the content. So I 100% strongly > disagree with this opinion that Sendgrid should be the political > "thought police" for LEGAL content that is sent from their platform. I've never understood this line

Re: [mailop] Seeing broken Content-Type headers from sendgrid

2019-05-02 Thread Ryan Harris via mailop
Hello Tobi, Your friendly sendgrid community member here. Could you send me headers off list? Would love to see what you are experiencing. Thanks for your help. Ryan On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 6:02 AM Tobi via mailop wrote: > We're currently seeing quite a bunch of messages from

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 5/5/2020 5:50 PM, Carl Byington via mailop wrote: > On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 07:48 -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > > This is a little too obvious, and while historically SendGrid ran a > > tight ship, and got a little lee way from spam auditors.. it's getting >

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-10 Thread Carl Byington via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 15:06 -0700, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > On 5/5/20 14:30, Blake Hudson via mailop wrote: > > Been getting a variety of Amex scams for several weeks via SendGrid. > > Wish they had a better reporting me

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. Where do you find that account number in the headers? I see some from today with "Upgrade (FINAL WARNING)" in the subject, but no indication

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
h of what comes from Sendgrid, is bulk unsolicited email. Sendgrid are spammers. It doesn't matter whether they spam encouraging or discouraging COVID vaccination, it's still spam. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid again...

2021-01-24 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
7;t technically Sendgrid who perform the filtering this approach has the effect of putting a content filter on the abuse mailbox. You're assuming that Sendgrid actually cares about or reads abuse complaints in the first place. The spam is a steady flow, nothing new. In Sendgrid's case, f

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-13 Thread Noel Butler via mailop
On 12/02/2021 04:26, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 18:49, Rob McEwen via mailop He's not even trying to let people guess Sendgrid is good at preventing abuses. Why would he? because they are not good at it, sendgrid are blocked here, have been for w m

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-07 Thread Luke via mailop
If you could share the return-path of the offending message, I can have it looked at. Cheers, Luke On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 11:39 AM Brielle via mailop wrote: > Hello, > > Anyone here have a contact for Zoom in re of webinar spam being sent > from their platform via Sendgrid owned

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
st seemed to say that it was all sendgrid, not taking into > account whether it was spam or not. Correct? Any mail received at our spamtraps, of whose composition you might have a fairly decent idea, identified as being sent by SendGrid. As I said and you quoted it back at me, >> So,

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