Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-14 Thread Ralph Dumain
I'm not sure what is relevant to this inquiry, but my web pages related to Husserl and phenomenology are: http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/farber7.htmlExperience and Subjectivism (Sections I.F-II.D) by Marvin Farber http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/farber1.htmlThe Issue of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-05 Thread rasherrs
that he was closer to Popper than A.J. Ayer. Paddy Hackett - Original Message - From: Jim Farmelant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-04 Thread rasherrs
Hi Given that Bertrand Russell rejected verificationism as the criterion as to what is science, can you tell me what was his criterion or criteria for identifying science as against non-science was? Paddy Hackett ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Vygotsky: http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg01947.html -- CeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JF: I am interested in them because of my general interest in the philosophy of science and the broader implications: culturally, socially and politically of differing

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Phil Walden
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Dumain Sent: 03 April 2008 05:08 To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. I wonder if this is unequivocally true about the Frankfurters. For sure, Adorno

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Ralph Dumain
Sent: 03 April 2008 05:08 To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. I wonder if this is unequivocally true about the Frankfurters. For sure, Adorno, Horkheimer, and Marcuse had an animus against positivism, but it is not necessarily the case

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread rasherrs
, April 03, 2008 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:53:37 +0100 rasherrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for the help in relation to the Vienna Circle. It is a circle that has been much misunderstood in radical left circles. When I was in my late

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03, 2008 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:53:37 +0100 rasherrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for the help in relation to the Vienna Circle. It is a circle that has been much misunderstood in radical left circles. When I was in my late

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Phil Walden
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Dumain Sent: 03 April 2008 08:45 To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. Bad grammar aside, I thought my point was non-mysterious. If, after I've given a detailed argument as to why some philosophy is false

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Charles Brown
Ralph Dumain I would like to point out for the general purpose of such discussions, I am not terribly impressed to show a favorable attitude towards philosophies just because some of their proponents were political progressive individuals. This shows a rather provincial approach to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Charles Brown
Sent: 03 April 2008 05:08 To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. I wonder if this is unequivocally true about the Frankfurters. For sure, Adorno, Horkheimer, and Marcuse had an animus against positivism, but it is not necessarily the case

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread rasherrs
-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. I am interested in them because of my general interest in the philosophy of science and the broader implications: culturally, socially and politically of differing

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread Jim Farmelant
supported the breakaway Social Democratic Party. Paddy Hackett -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. I am interested in them

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread CeJ
JF: I am interested in them because of my general interest in the philosophy of science and the broader implications: culturally, socially and politically of differing philosophies of science. Concerning the Vienna Circle, I am in agreement with George Reisch that because of the peculiarities of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-03 Thread CeJ
(and was down officially as an opponent of the logical positivists), they published at least of his books, didn't they? I meant to say here that the VC published at least TWO of Popper's books. CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-02 Thread rasherrs
PROTECTED] To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Cc: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. Interesting. I wonder if I should put this or similar items into my bibliography. This is a Marxist advocating

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-02 Thread Ralph Dumain
I wonder if this is unequivocally true about the Frankfurters. For sure, Adorno, Horkheimer, and Marcuse had an animus against positivism, but it is not necessarily the case that they viewed the neopositivists themselves as reactionaries. The closest approach to specific animosity I can

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
Popper at one time had wanted to join the Circle and was evidently very envious of the admiration Wittgenstein received from them (though by most accounts, Wittgenstein did not see himself as engaged in their scientific world view and did not encourage their acclaim of him). Here is a nice

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:19:46 +0900 CeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Popper at one time had wanted to join the Circle and was evidently very envious of the admiration Wittgenstein received from them (though by most accounts, Wittgenstein did not see himself as engaged in their scientific

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
The VC didn't include Husserl in their manifesto, but I think he represents an important alternative in this discussion, if we want to reconcile 'human' and natural sciences. See, for example, http://pos.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/27/3/328 Husserl, Weber, Freud, and the Method of the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
Also worth of consideration are Piaget's discussions on the philosophy of science (especially its turn to 'sociology of knowledge' post-Kuhn). This article (which I managed to get online for free somewhere, but I can now only find the abstract for) has been influential in pushing forward a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
Interesting. I wonder if I should put this or similar items into my bibliography. This is a Marxist advocating the Popperian approach as a way of circumventing doctrinal rigidification. Can you think of other Marxists who have taken this road? At 07:41 PM 4/1/2008, Jim Farmelant wrote: On

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
This must be the document I downloaded earlier today. It was linked from the Wikipedia article on the Vienna Circle, if I recall correctly. It is rather confusing in its structure. Someone should check the print source to see if the whole manifesto is here included. I always remember this