Re: [MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know?

On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 22:59:55 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > All this makes sense when you realize these numbers are sufficient to > protect the wires. Fuses are a whole different animal. Fuses depend upon the square of the current multiplied by the time it is applied. (I^2 t)

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> What is the error tolerance on the Ampere rating on a circuit breaker? Yes, the breakers are designed to protect against catastrophic heating of the wires, nothing else. They take some time to heat up, so short-term overloads are not only tolerable, but preferable, given the nature of motors,

Re: [MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know?

. Fuses are a whole different animal. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know? What is the error tolerance

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The running amps are around 7-8. But the starting amps are (very briefly) 47 plus whatever the fan draws. I'm not surprised that a 20A time delay breaker can handle it, but it seems the 15A fast blow isn't as instant as I might have assumed it to be. On 2021-07-31 22:43, Allan Streib via

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What is the error tolerance on the Ampere rating on a circuit breaker? Maybe your 15A breaker is allowing a little more than that, and the recommeded 20 assumes that the actual breaker might trip a little lower. There must be a little headroom on the required rating, so that people don't

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On 2021-07-31 20:29, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Good data point. Thanks. The LRA (locked rotor amps) on my 1.5T are 47. I do not know why I can start it on a fast blow 15A breaker. The install instructions demand a 20A HACR (slow blow HVAC) breaker. Maybe the start kit helps? What

Re: [MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know?

Good data point. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:39 PM On 2021-07-31 18:16, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > Maybe I need a peak-reading ac ammeter. That's probably the only way > to know. Or maybe I can find some data

Re: [MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know?

This is good to know. I have little to no experience with mini-splits as generator loads, so I can’t lend a lot of help here. Based on the branch circuit requirements for most I can’t imagine they draw a great deal. -D > On Jul 31, 2021, at 7:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On

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On 2021-07-31 18:16, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Maybe I need a peak-reading ac ammeter. That's probably the only way to know. Or maybe I can find some data online. My generator has no problem running the water heater (which is totally unnecessary) but that's a pure resistive load. I

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. Also it might still work on the generator if the power goes out.. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 12:02 PM To: Okie Benz Cc: dan penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know? Just off

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Just off the cuff I would suspect it could run a couple of them without too much effort. You would need to determine what the code letter of the compressor motor is to get an accurate idea. This would apply especially if they don’t start simultaneously, which might be a bit much even for a 15kW

[MBZ] Generators and Mini-Splits, Anyone Know?

I know most generators can't run a conventional AC/Heat Pump because of the high compressor startup currents except (maybe) with a soft-start kit. I wondered about mini-split systems. These are smaller size and seem to "ramp up" in speed which seems like it should moderate the high start-up

[MBZ] Generators

With some available time, and all new parts on hand, I dove into the Briggs motor. I replaced the float valve and its seat, and the jet screw, and the gaskets. (The rest I didn't [yet] need, and would have been difficult to swap out.) I cleaned it and put it back together. No difference!

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The air blows cold.. And,, it's quiet... since the starter is missing.. and the exhaust pipe.. and just a few other things.. like an electrical panel to hook up generator.. Then.. what ever is hidden under the grass and weeds... On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <

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On 23/11/2015 11:38 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: One for Dan? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-diesel-engine-and-generator-head-/161892207077?hash=item25b18709e5:g:qmoAAOSwo6lWMi7s At least it is a Mercedes engine. Though sold by a crack smoker. Manfred

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Yep. Ain't it wonderful. A non polluting generator. Manfred Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:15:01 -0700 From: G Mann The air blows cold.. And,, it's quiet... since the starter is missing.. and the exhaust pipe.. and just a few other things.. like an electrical panel to hook

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One for Dan? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-diesel-engine-and-generator-head-/161892207077?hash=item25b18709e5:g:qmoAAOSwo6lWMi7s At least it is a Mercedes engine. Though sold by a crack smoker. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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I had it build 2 years ago then left it sitting outside to get all rusty and nasty --R On 11/23/15 12:38 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: One for Dan? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-diesel-engine-and-generator-head-/161892207077?hash=item25b18709e5:g:qmoAAOSwo6lWMi7s At least it is a

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I get parts at the Naphtha all the time --R On 11/21/15 1:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 01:23:56 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure octane, its more like naptha ... I learned

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Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I am sure in India and in china they have small cheap diesel generators. Our wunnerful goobers are undoubtedly blocking import of such useful things. I've seen a few 3600 rpm Made in China units for around $1700 IIRC, or a little cheaper than a contractor

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 01:23:56 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure octane, its > more like naptha ... I learned not all that long ago that it's "naphtha", pronounced naf-thuh because of the "h" after the

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Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I bought it on Amazon but all the Dong Ching generators are about the same. Mine is the 1200w, I think I paid $120. I have one of those 800W HF things. $99, still in the box. I was thinking of it as a trunk accessory in case of trouble on the road. You can get

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When we had hurricanes back in 2004 I rented out 100’ extension cords on my cul-de-sac for $100/each. Dan > On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Maybe Dan could power his HOA with 150kw 3 phase? >

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Jim Sez: I have one of those 800W HF things. $99, still in the box. I was thinking of it as a trunk accessory in case of trouble on the road. Filled up all 3 forklift tanks today. $62. Each little tank is like burning a $20 bill. Lasts only a little longer, too! :-) More laundry today,

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I had a 25kW LP powered generator at my other house. No HOA regulations affected it, and to be honest there’s no way they could restrict or prevent something like it. That’s more of a code issue than anything else. And it was quiet, too. Quieter than my 5 ton AC unit. I liked how my

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Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I am sure in India and in china they have small cheap diesel generators. Our wunnerful goobers are undoubtedly blocking import of such useful things. I've seen a few 3600 rpm Made in China units for around $1700 IIRC, or a little cheaper than a contractor

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Way to go, gouger! --R On 11/21/15 9:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: When we had hurricanes back in 2004 I rented out 100’ extension cords on my cul-de-sac for $100/each. Dan On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Maybe Dan could power

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 09:13:02 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > > > I am sure in India and in china they have small cheap diesel > > generators. Our wunnerful goobers are undoubtedly blocking import of > > such useful things. > >

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:57:01 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > > Gerry wrote: > > > > > > Years ago we used Amoco "white gas", > > > Curt wrote: > > > > White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure > > octane, > Fmiser wrote: > I think Gerry is

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Maybe a milsurp 120/240v diesel would be handy, just make sure it's single phase. You can rewire most 3-phase units zigzag for single-phase. The unit is derated, of course. Our 40kW 3-phase unit is 26kW zigzag, as it is currently wired. Doesn't matter, we're limited by the 40A (or 50A)

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Very little inexpensive land on the wet side. A ferry ride might find some soggy place to stack cars in the boonies. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green,

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it away for the winter today. -Curt From: Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators > I bought it on Am

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Washington St., particularly the Eastern part, got whacked with high winds Tuesday night. Massive power outages. My rope-pull gennys have not been behaving well, and Big Bertha was in need of minor service. Tonight I put another used starting battery on it (it takes two---24V) and replaced the

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Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: The hour meter was 3.6 hours when I started it. We've already run out 1/2 forklift tank of fuel, and it's chewing rapidly on the other one, which was full. _Very_ expensive showers... Maybe get a stationary tank? My last fill was 99.9 cents a gallon plus tax.

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Is J Cathey in Seattle? On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Washington St., particularly the Eastern part, got whacked with >> high winds Tuesday night. Massive power outages. My rope-pull >> gennys have not been behaving well, and Big

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that it doesn't smoke appreciably once its warmed up. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators You need one of th

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ebenz.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Is that the HF generator that's been advertised for $99 lately? Gerry Curt Raymond wrote: > I've thought about one of those for camp, we've got lots of wood... > Last week I used my little 2 stroke China

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s-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Curt Raymond via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 3:30 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators > > The inverter versions of the Honda

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You need one of those hot tubs with a wood stove in it, or an Okie hot tub -- an old bathtub sitting over an open fire. --R On 11/19/15 11:47 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Washington St., particularly the Eastern part, got whacked with high winds Tuesday night. Massive power outages.

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s@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Scott Ritchey <ritche...@nc.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators > > In my experience, almost all small engine problems are caused by stale fuel > and/or incomplete mixing of 3-cycle mix. It's way cheaper to suck out/burn > of the d

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s@okiebenz.com> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators > > You need one of those hot tubs with a wood stove in it, or an Okie hot > tub -- an old bathtub

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ebenz.com> Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators I got lucky a few years back and found a Honda 2000i nearby on CL. The plastic case was a bit scarred, but it started up and ran great. I got it for $

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Other side of the state, Spokane clay On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > Is J Cathey in Seattle? > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Washington St., particularly the Eastern part, got whacked

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Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators I've thought about one of those for camp, we've got lots of wood... Last

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: Re: [MBZ] Generators The inverter versions of the Honda are awesome, is yours one that supports teaming with another? We had a couple of those on a campout I was on in September. 1 was adequate for making coffee in the 30 cup urn but struggled if we were also trying to make toast ;) I need

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Fresh gas, the bad gas ran out when the petcock broke. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Scott Ritchey" <ritche...@nc.rr.com> Date:Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:42 PM Subject:RE: [MBZ] Generators In my experience, almost all small engine problems are caused by stale fuel a

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Yeahbut how long did the old gas stand in the carb? > -Original Message- > From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes > > Fresh gas, the bad gas ran out when the petcock broke. > > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > From:"Scott Ritchey" Date:Fri, Nov 20, 2015

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Didn't, the petcock was closed, I'd burned the old gas out. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date:Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:07 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] Generators Yeahbut how long did the old gas stand in the carb?

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ember 20, 2015 3:30 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators > > > > The inverter versions of the Honda are awesome, is yours one that supports > > teaming with ano

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.com> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Years ago we used Amoco "white gas", which was nearly pure octane, and it never caused problems. It was the most expensive gas on th

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I never said it was a good fuel, just a fuel used for boat stoves for safety reasons. The main reason boat stoves use alcohol is the ability to extinguish a fire with water. In all other ways, alcohol is an inferior fuel. Scott From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> >White

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> > Gerry wrote: > > > > Years ago we used Amoco "white gas", > Curt wrote: > > White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure > octane, I think Gerry is referring to the Amoco premium gasoline that was water clear rather than kinda brownish like most gasoline.

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Is J Cathey in Seattle? Spokane. Hard to get 20 acres in Seattle! I wonder if a HOA would prohibit a generator big enough to run several houses? I heard there were some 300,000 customers without power at the peak aftermath of this windstorm. Pretty sure that 130,000 were in the Spokane

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20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators >White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure octane, >its more like naptha and I think you'll find it has very little >octane. Low compression engines would do well on it but I wouldn't >run it in anything made in the last 50 ye

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Years ago gas was less perishable because it did not contain alcohol or similar additives. > From: archer75--- via Mercedes > > Years ago we used Amoco "white gas", which was nearly pure octane, and it > never caused problems. ...

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The main reason boat stoves use alcohol is the ability to extinguish a fire with water. In all other ways, alcohol is an inferior fuel. Scott > > From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > > >White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure octane, > >its more like naptha

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I bought it on Amazon but all the Dong Ching generators are about the same. Mine is the 1200w, I think I paid $120. I have one of those 800W HF things. $99, still in the box. I was thinking of it as a trunk accessory in case of trouble on the road. Filled up all 3 forklift tanks today. $62.

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White gas is the same thing as camping fuel and is not pure octane, its more like naptha and I think you'll find it has very little octane. Low compression engines would do well on it but I wouldn't run it in anything made in the last 50 years. You can still buy white gas at the pumps in Amish

[MBZ] Generators

Washington St., particularly the Eastern part, got whacked with high winds Tuesday night. Massive power outages. My rope-pull gennys have not been behaving well, and Big Bertha was in need of minor service. Tonight I put another used starting battery on it (it takes two---24V) and replaced the

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Been cold (60s) and wet here - flash flood warnings for the local rivers and streams, as we’ve gotten a boatload of rain. Supposed to be back in the 70s and low 80s by the weekend, however. It nearly got to 90F on Monday, which was really weird for this time of year. I got the R129 out and

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@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Been cold (60s) and wet here - flash flood warnings for the local rivers and streams, as we’ve gotten a boatload of rain.  Supposed to be back in the 70s and low 80s by the weekend, however.  It nearly got

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into .300 Savage cases. You can only buy 150 grain loads pre-made and my rifle shoots those sideways. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Been cold (60s

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mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Been cold (60s) and wet here - flash flood warnings for the local rivers and streams, as we’ve gotten a boatload of rain. Supposed to be back in the 70s and low 80s by the weekend, however

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@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Snowing like crazy here in the SE quadrant of...   D.C. although well above freezing... for now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com

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I wonder how many traditionalists versus DIYers there are on the list? Gerry...DIYer OK Don wrote: Now, now. What can be more reliable than a Mercedes engine? Besides, we already know how to work on them if needed. You're forgetting the sense of accomplishment, pride in workmanship, and joy

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The Swedish system appeals to me. Kaleb could insulate the hanger, run insulated forced-air ducts to the house, put X number of milk cows in the hanger, and benefit from a ready supply of milk, and lower taxes on agricultural land, while keeping his house well heated. In the summer the cows

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Traditionally.. I'm a DIY'er... so does that quantify me as both? ;))) Seems to me, that old tired Okie Acres Mercedes engine should run at 1800 RPM and be happy.. 1800 RPM on a liquid cooled, well muffled diesel runs rather quietly. [Have two of them.] The magic tricks would be mounting the

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I'm sure that MB engines have SAE standard mounting points, which would make it fairly easy to bolt an SAE flywheel and housing up. Granted, the flywheel mounting to the crank might be unique, as I don't think that's addressed in the standard, but it's certainly not an insurmountable issue.

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On 24/11/2014 7:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I don't consider a generator life safety equipment. I've never been in a situation where I though Oh geez, we don't have a generator, we're going to die. but I recognize that I'm somewhat different in my life expectations. Also recognize

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Now, I would have said that a traditionalist was a DIYer. It is the young folks who have abandoned the DIY in favour of just buying whatever they might need or want. Some of that no doubt is because much more is readily available now and the stuff from the far east is cheap. In my father's

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Yep, me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Now, I would have said

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List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Now, I would have said that a traditionalist was a DIYer. It is the young folks who have abandoned the DIY in favour of just buying whatever they might need or want. Some of that no doubt

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Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Now, I would have said that a traditionalist was a DIYer. It is the young folks who

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but not great at making new things... -Curthasn't hit 40 yet but the gap is closing. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Feeling

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, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Feeling young and picked upon are you? RB Young is a relative thing. I am doing my best to catch up with Wilton. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

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Beats the alternative... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators On 25/11/2014 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote

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; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators On 25/11/2014 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I was going to put something in about my really not being a young person but figured you guys knew that. I

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Yep, yep, yep, don't be in a hurry. Wilt - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators Too

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There are a LOT of baby boomers like myself who can't hold a screw driver, much less build something. It always surprises me when I run across another one, but then I realize that there are a lot more of them than there people like me. I also have a large hoard of I'll need that someday stuff, and

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, 2014 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators There are a LOT of baby boomers like myself who can't hold a screw driver, much less build something. It always surprises me when I run across another one, but then I realize that there are a lot more of them than there people like me. I also have

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On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 02:31:32 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sadly its too cold to paint the passive heat tubes or finish the hovercraft... Perhaps your weather will be like ours. It was cold the last few days, but the next few days' forecasts are:

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On 22/11/2014 12:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On November 22, 2014 at 11:53 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: At the new Okie acres rancho costa plenty were the nearest neighbor is a mile away, we are all electric with heat pump If truly all electric

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On 22/11/2014 12:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Well heck look at this http://m.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot%20provided Not a bad price but not all that automatic. Can your family manage it

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On 22/11/2014 1:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Do NOT buy a PTO driven generator. I won’t go into details, suffice to say you would regret it. You need to do a load survey first, then decide whether or not you want to power the whole house or just critical loads. It’s more expensive

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It says it needs 30 HP at 540 RPM - though I suspect the PTO is geared down. So, a 240D with a tranny to gear it down should work. The cruise control could be your governor, and the body the enclosure. Too cool! On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

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Maybe it could be mounted in the trunk or something Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:41 AM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It says it needs 30 HP at 540 RPM - though I suspect the PTO is geared down. So, a 240D with a tranny to gear it down should work. The

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:41:01 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It says it needs 30 HP at 540 RPM - though I suspect the PTO is geared down. So, a 240D with a tranny to gear it down should work. The cruise control could be your governor, and the body the enclosure. Too

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That is what my plan always was, but not the redneck version. I was going to build an enclosure for it. I built a frame with MB motor mounts for an OM621 engine 30+ years ago, but I never found an affordable generator, and never really needed it badly enough to complete the project. It made

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and in a pinch can burn wood or what have you. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Generators On 22/11/2014 12

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:08:13 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Kaleb could mount the thing on a skid and power it with a surplus MB diesel. Even the 240D engine should produce enough HP to run it. Would not need a tractor. Or, you could get a two-bearing generator

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Yes - use the passenger area for a 100 gal fuel tank, or two, or three. Since it's for emergency use, not daily power, the losses due to multiple gearings would not be a significant issue. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Maybe it

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Ok, ok, let me put the end to this PTO or drive it off a 240D ideas... Generators come in two configurations: Single bearing, where a flex disc is bolted to a flywheel and the front of the alternator (generator) is supported by the driving engine. The end of the alternator has a bearing in an

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So, Kaleb, do you have any cars left to use for the MB-genset project? How many did you move, and how many went to the crushers? What are you getting at the crushers these days? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three

[MBZ] Generators

What would be bad about a pto generator? Kaleb could mount the thing on a skid and power it with a surplus MB diesel. Even the 240D engine should produce enough HP to run it. Would not need a tractor. RB .. The 240D idea has possibilites IMO. Build a frame to

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Oh, c ome on Dan. You are the expert. You are supposed to tell us how to do it with an old Mercedes diesel - not tell us it cannot be done! RB On 24/11/2014 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Ok, ok, let me put the end to this PTO or drive it off a 240D ideas... Generators come in two

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Some time back, I posted (I think) a story I got from another internet forum about a guy who mounted an old Briggs or Kohler or ??? on top of the engine block in a boat with an inboard outboard and ran it via a chain drive from the small engine onto a sprocket welded onto the harmonic

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Like this. RB I drove up stream a bit to a small dirt landing, hand lauched the boat and went about fishing for several hours. After a bit I decided to head up stream and try for some crabs, a ways upstream we run across and old man in an old, raggedy Renken trihull, with an OMC I/O set up.

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I never said it cannot be done - I just pointed out the difficulty in doing it DIY. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 24, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Oh, c ome on Dan. You are the expert. You are supposed to tell us how to do it with an old Mercedes diesel - not

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Sounds like one of the Engine Division's biggest sellers in the late 1960s-early 70s. They used to have a K91 (4hp horizontal shaft) engine spec that had a three foot crankshaft extension. They were used quite heavily in Vietnam and Laos by people who lived on the water for propulsion engines

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That sort of thing is still made. I cannot recall the name but they are mostly used by people who want to duck hunt or whatever in shallow areas. This idea however is quite different than that in the sense that it uses the original outdrive on the boat. RB On 24/11/2014 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff

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