Re: [MBZ] 190SL

2015-08-15 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Yes?   What about them?  :)

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] heat

2015-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Southern Indiana

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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:



Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the
ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no
engine turning.  Are these symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the
other?



TIA for your thoughts,



Greg


WIll the starter start the engine when you jump the solenoid?

Bad starter/solenoid?

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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Do the battery test with a voltmeter but it may also be a dead spot on the
starter commutator.  Sometimes the brushes get stuck and don't make good
contact with the commutator.  Sometimes it's an actual dead or dirty spot on
the commutator.  If the battery tests good, try wacking the starter with a
board or hammer and then try to crank.


18 to 24 of 1/2 hard copper tubing works well for whacking the 
solenoid and also for jumping it.  I always carry that and a 2' long 
screwdriver for both duties.  Double safe.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: EPA

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Don't you know the difference between good heavy metals and bad heavy metals?

Duck hunters' lead birdshot = bad
EPA's cadmium/lead/whatever = good.


Expensive Pollution Agency's  categories:

a:  Citizen or business activities:  BAD!  Must STOP!  (includes lead 
shot, coal, nuke power, business, farming, logging, private 
conservation practices, pretty much all productive human activity.)


b:  Gooberment activities: GOOD!   (pretty much anything non 
productive or counterproductive.)




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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

That is a gmail thing.  my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent.

Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email 
addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge security  problem.


OH LIST MOM  OH LIST MARTHA?



OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?



Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the email addresses listed 
in the postings.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That is a gmail thing.  my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent.
 
 Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses 
 subscribed to the list.  That is a huge security  problem.
 
 OH LIST MOM  OH LIST MARTHA?
 
 
 OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
 not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?
 
 
 
 Greg
 
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not really sure. I will find out from the host. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Kaleb,
 
 Why do all the post headers now show all subscribers' email addresses?  this 
 is a security problem.  It just started this afternoon.
 
 
 OK, we need to get something straight for clarity's sake:
 
 I only have rights to deal with the approval queue and subscriptions.  
 Anything else, especially things that occur under the hood, are strictly the 
 responsibility of the list's owner.  All the goofy issues with bounces and 
 failures to respond need to go to him.  I gots nothin' to do with that stuff.
 
 Sorry.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That is a gmail thing.  my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent.
 
 Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses 
 subscribed to the list.  That is a huge security  problem.
 
 OH LIST MOM  OH LIST MARTHA?
 
 
 OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
 not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?
  Greg
 
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Re: [MBZ] WTB: crankshaft hub

2015-08-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Dude!  Way better to be sure _before_ you get out the wrenches!


No truer words were ever spoken.

After lunch it was time, so I started gathering up the tools, parts, etc.
I couldn't find the crankshaft lock!

I spent about three hours in the garage, looking in all the places that I
might have put it, and finally gave up looking.  The garage is much cleaner
now, and I found a few other things I was looking for, but the lock is MIA.

I decided that with the limited amount of time I had left, I could at least
clean off the front of the engine and positively identify the leak.  After
I removed the cooling fan and shroud, I used brake cleaner to clean around
the crankshaft and the vacuum pump and the front of the engine in general.
Ran the car for about ten minutes, observed and felt around the front, and
could find no leaks. Hmmm.  Started the car again, and cleaned off more of
the oily mess on the left side of the engine (injection pump side) and
immediately found a steady drip drip drip.  Shut off the engine and started
looking and feeling for what could be the source under the injection pump,
and touched one of the three injection pump flange nuts and found it finger
tight!  Ah hah!

I just had time to torque the three bolts to spec (20-25 Nm) and run the
engine a bit.  That is not really a fair test, so tomorrow I'm going to
take the car to the car wash and clean off the engine properly, and see if
the leak was just the injection pump all along.  Hard to imagine that all
the oil was migrating forward from the injection pump flange,  I'm still
suspicious of the crankshaft seal.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Sounds like a bad battery

--R



On 8/15/15 7:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:

  


Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the
ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no
engine turning.  Are these symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the
other?

  


TIA for your thoughts,

  


Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
OK, we need to get something straight for clarity’s sake:

I only have rights to deal with the approval queue and subscriptions.  Anything 
else, especially things that occur under the hood, are strictly the 
responsibility of the list’s owner.  All the goofy issues with bounces and 
failures to respond need to go to him.  I gots nothin' to do with that stuff.

Sorry.

Dan

 
 On Aug 15, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That is a gmail thing.  my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent.
 
 Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses 
 subscribed to the list.  That is a huge security  problem.
 
 OH LIST MOM  OH LIST MARTHA?
 
 
 OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
 not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?
 
 
 
 Greg
 
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Re: [MBZ] WTB: crankshaft hub

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

It can be yours for a price.  I plan to sell it.


You still got that car? I sure miss it.a lot

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 SDL I got had been in some shop in arkieland.  german name etc, 
presumably knew something about german cars.  The IP had apparently 
been replaced by one that had been sprayed with a gold lacquer for 
identity.  It leaked like a seive at the flange.  When I finally 
took it out and put in a new oring, I found the pump was way out of 
time. The pump was already leaking at the delivery valve orings 
shortly after I got the car, so the rebuilt pump is somewhat 
suspect too. There is a post somewhere in these here archives about 
the pump oring, leaking and way out of time.


 So yes, a bad oring and a loose nut or 3 on the IP flange can 
result in big oil puddles.




 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 Dude!  Way better to be sure _before_ you get out the wrenches!



 No truer words were ever spoken.

 After lunch it was time, so I started gathering up the tools, parts, etc.
 I couldn't find the crankshaft lock!

 I spent about three hours in the garage, looking in all the places that I
 might have put it, and finally gave up looking.  The garage is much cleaner
 now, and I found a few other things I was looking for, but the lock is MIA.

 I decided that with the limited amount of time I had left, I could at least
 clean off the front of the engine and positively identify the leak.  After
 I removed the cooling fan and shroud, I used brake cleaner to clean around
 the crankshaft and the vacuum pump and the front of the engine in general.
 Ran the car for about ten minutes, observed and felt around the front, and
 could find no leaks. Hmmm.  Started the car again, and cleaned off more of
 the oily mess on the left side of the engine (injection pump side) and
 immediately found a steady drip drip drip.  Shut off the engine and started
 looking and feeling for what could be the source under the injection pump,
 and touched one of the three injection pump flange nuts and found it finger
 tight!  Ah hah!

 I just had time to torque the three bolts to spec (20-25 Nm) and run the
 engine a bit.  That is not really a fair test, so tomorrow I'm going to
 take the car to the car wash and clean off the engine properly, and see if
 the leak was just the injection pump all along.  Hard to imagine that all
 the oil was migrating forward from the injection pump flange,  I'm still
 suspicious of the crankshaft seal.

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
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[MBZ] LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Kaleb,

Why do all the post headers now show all subscribers' email 
addresses?  this is a security problem.  It just started this 
afternoon.




OK, we need to get something straight for clarity's sake:

I only have rights to deal with the approval queue and 
subscriptions.  Anything else, especially things that occur under 
the hood, are strictly the responsibility of the list's owner.  All 
the goofy issues with bounces and failures to respond need to go to 
him.  I gots nothin' to do with that stuff.


Sorry.

Dan


 On Aug 15, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 That is a gmail thing.  my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent.

 Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email 
addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge security  problem.


 OH LIST MOM  OH LIST MARTHA?



 OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
 not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?




  Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Curly wrote:
 
 Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the
 email addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge
 security  problem.

Yup.

I the header 
X-Assp-Intended-For

I just figured that was how Kaleb got the list
server/bounce/spam thing fixed.

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially 
better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8.  (but not as 
desirable as an OM 603!)


6.9 excepted, but this is NOT a 6.9!

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[MBZ] Ot Test

2015-08-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Test‎

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Ot Test

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Rick:

I read you 5X5

Greg
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:48 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: [MBZ] Ot Test

Test‎

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question

2015-08-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Greg wrote:
 
 OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but
 why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I
 sent from another ISP?

'Cause Gmail is being helpful.  I guess they figure you
know what you sent.  It bugs me - but I've found no way
around it.

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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Thanks, I guess I'll switch to a comcast address instead.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question

Normal I think. IIRC Gmail filters you from your own messages.
-Curt
  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Greg Fiorentino greg.fiorent...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:50 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Gmail Question
   
OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] TDI update

2015-08-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
How many AU (1 AU, aviation unit, = $1000) did all that take? Sounds like
you're almost there. Our TDI averaged 50.5 mpg for the two round trips to
the airport this morning, 32 miles each way, almost half at 70 mph and the
other half at 60 mph. Why two trips you ask? - the FAA melt down on the
East coast this morning is why.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Picked up my 2005 Golf TDI from the TDI mechanic today. He put in a new
 transmission and timing belt/water pump, changed the oil, oil filter, fuel
 filter, air filter, and polished the headlights.
 He said the clutch in it looked like it maybe had 10,000 miles on it plus
 it has nearly new tires which leads me to theorize that after putting a new
 clutch and tires into it the previous owner freaked when the transmission
 gave trouble and considering it needs new front fenders and a windshield
 refused to put any more money into it.
 So its quite drive-able now but I don't think will pass inspection because
 of a ding in the windshield. Safelite says its probably repairable, I'll
 make a run up there and see what they can do. Then I'll see about front
 fenders and getting it detailed. We washed it but it had some gunk on it
 which will probably have to be buffed out.
 I think the previous owner had babied it, when I first got it up to
 highway speed it was kind of pokey and the first couple times I really got
 on it it poured smoke. After a couple hard run ups its feeling a lot
 peppier so I think I got the carbon out of it but a week or two of highway
 runs will prove that out.
 Oh and the speedo doesn't work. I'd bet the mechanic hasn't hooked it up.
 I didn't have plates on it so I bet he didn't take it for a ride. I'll look
 online and see if its something simple to hook back up, otherwise it'll be
 back to him for a checkup...
 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Put a meter on the battery, turn for the click and observe voltage. IIRC it 
should stay above like 10v when starting. I suspect in your case its sagging 
badly.
-Curt

  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 8:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D
   
Sounds like a bad battery

--R



On 8/15/15 7:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
 So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:

  

 Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the
 ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no
 engine turning.  Are these symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the
 other?

  

 TIA for your thoughts,

  

 Greg

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Re: [MBZ] WTB: crankshaft hub

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its amazing how oil moves. My '85 190D had a leaking power steering pump and 
the oil would creep up the hood right in front of the driver. Had to wipe it 
off every day or it'd get on the windshield.
-Curt

  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTB: crankshaft hub
   
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Dude!  Way better to be sure _before_ you get out the wrenches!


No truer words were ever spoken.

After lunch it was time, so I started gathering up the tools, parts, etc.
I couldn't find the crankshaft lock!

I spent about three hours in the garage, looking in all the places that I
might have put it, and finally gave up looking.  The garage is much cleaner
now, and I found a few other things I was looking for, but the lock is MIA.

I decided that with the limited amount of time I had left, I could at least
clean off the front of the engine and positively identify the leak.  After
I removed the cooling fan and shroud, I used brake cleaner to clean around
the crankshaft and the vacuum pump and the front of the engine in general.
Ran the car for about ten minutes, observed and felt around the front, and
could find no leaks. Hmmm.  Started the car again, and cleaned off more of
the oily mess on the left side of the engine (injection pump side) and
immediately found a steady drip drip drip.  Shut off the engine and started
looking and feeling for what could be the source under the injection pump,
and touched one of the three injection pump flange nuts and found it finger
tight!  Ah hah!

I just had time to torque the three bolts to spec (20-25 Nm) and run the
engine a bit.  That is not really a fair test, so tomorrow I'm going to
take the car to the car wash and clean off the engine properly, and see if
the leak was just the injection pump all along.  Hard to imagine that all
the oil was migrating forward from the injection pump flange,  I'm still
suspicious of the crankshaft seal.

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Do the battery test with a voltmeter but it may also be a dead spot on the
starter commutator.  Sometimes the brushes get stuck and don't make good
contact with the commutator.  Sometimes it's an actual dead or dirty spot on
the commutator.  If the battery tests good, try wacking the starter with a
board or hammer and then try to crank.  

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 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg
 Fiorentino via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:48 PM
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Greg Fiorentino greg.fiorent...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D
 
 So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:
 
 
 
 Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the
 ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no
engine
 turning.  Are these symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the other?
 
 
 
 TIA for your thoughts,
 
 
 
 Greg
 
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Re: [MBZ] test

2015-08-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
You've been assimilated into the gmail borg, your emails will now be
delivered...

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Most messages I have sent to the list have bounced, so I changed email
 accounts to see if that would work.



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Re: [MBZ] BEHR 300TD R4 COMPRESSOR

2015-08-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
See the tab in the rear in that bends over to retain the steel cover ….. 
that was bent out straight on mine

i pushed the sleeve back on mine and regent the tab …. if the o rings 
weren't screwed up it might reseal … the compressor is still free


Then reseal it. 

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2709045-post73.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2714537-post76.html

Great video. 

http://youtu.be/vImsu-D_Qnk

‎
that compressor looks just like the 4 seasons that slipped the sleeve on me

It's an R4. They all look the same. 

Kind of like a 1911. But trust me, there IS a difference, just like between a 
Hi Point and a Kimber. 
They look VERY similar. 
They are most assuredly NOT. 

Rick 


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[MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:

 

Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the
ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no
engine turning.  Are these symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the
other?

 

TIA for your thoughts,

 

Greg

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[MBZ] Gmail Question

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] WTB: crankshaft hub

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You still got that car? I sure miss it.a lot 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 SDL I got had been in some shop in arkieland.  german name etc, presumably 
 knew something about german cars.  The IP had apparently been replaced by one 
 that had been sprayed with a gold lacquer for identity.  It leaked like a 
 seive at the flange.  When I finally took it out and put in a new oring, I 
 found the pump was way out of time. The pump was already leaking at the 
 delivery valve orings shortly after I got the car, so the rebuilt pump is 
 somewhat suspect too. There is a post somewhere in these here archives about 
 the pump oring, leaking and way out of time.
 
 So yes, a bad oring and a loose nut or 3 on the IP flange can result in big 
 oil puddles.
 
 
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Dude!  Way better to be sure _before_ you get out the wrenches!
 
 
 No truer words were ever spoken.
 
 After lunch it was time, so I started gathering up the tools, parts, etc.
 I couldn't find the crankshaft lock!
 
 I spent about three hours in the garage, looking in all the places that I
 might have put it, and finally gave up looking.  The garage is much cleaner
 now, and I found a few other things I was looking for, but the lock is MIA.
 
 I decided that with the limited amount of time I had left, I could at least
 clean off the front of the engine and positively identify the leak.  After
 I removed the cooling fan and shroud, I used brake cleaner to clean around
 the crankshaft and the vacuum pump and the front of the engine in general.
 Ran the car for about ten minutes, observed and felt around the front, and
 could find no leaks. Hmmm.  Started the car again, and cleaned off more of
 the oily mess on the left side of the engine (injection pump side) and
 immediately found a steady drip drip drip.  Shut off the engine and started
 looking and feeling for what could be the source under the injection pump,
 and touched one of the three injection pump flange nuts and found it finger
 tight!  Ah hah!
 
 I just had time to torque the three bolts to spec (20-25 Nm) and run the
 engine a bit.  That is not really a fair test, so tomorrow I'm going to
 take the car to the car wash and clean off the engine properly, and see if
 the leak was just the injection pump all along.  Hard to imagine that all
 the oil was migrating forward from the injection pump flange,  I'm still
 suspicious of the crankshaft seal.
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh man, a 116 with a 603 would be awesome.
Actually a VW engine would be hilarious in there. The VE engine in my '98 can 
be turned up to 150hp 230lb/ft for a couple grand. There'd be enough space to 
live in the engine bay with a little VW TDI lawnmower engine in there.
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape
   
'Cos they don't get driven?

-MMM-

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Even has the charcoal canister, and probably an air pump anti smog 
crap,, along with the yorkie compressor.


Great chassis to put an OM603 or 606 in.



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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It is strange because that is not all the list addresses so I am not sure what 
the deal is. With all the spam and different mail providers blocking list mail 
it is getting more and more difficult to keep things running

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:05 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Curly wrote:
 
 Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the
 email addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge
 security  problem.
 
 Yup.
 
 I the header 
 X-Assp-Intended-For
 
 I just figured that was how Kaleb got the list
 server/bounce/spam thing fixed.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
  Curly wrote:
 
  Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the
  email addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge
  security  problem.

 Kaleb wrote:
 
 What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the
 email addresses listed in the postings.

Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each
message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers.
There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com.
Now there is one for what looks like every member of the
list.  This is in each and every post.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: EPA

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
What about the deposits remaining at the bottom of the river?  Those may
persist long after the solubles have flown away.

Greg 

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain
Man via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mountain Man
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: EPA

Curly wrote:
 But WHO hired the contractor?   I'm guessing the EPA (expensive pollution
 agency) wrote the specs and hired the contractor.  That means the  
 expensive pollution agency is responsible.  If they'd have left it 
 alone, nothing would have happened.

This is a whole lotta stuff in the river in one slug but every wastewater
plant in the country discharges the same amount over time.
The solution to pollution is dilution.  Animas River is a good enough
dilution source.  The pollution will not be noticed over time.  i.e.
look at dead zones in the Mississippi River delta.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
We live in a suburban/semi-rural area, where small farms are being converted
to new developments all the time.  We have a street light on the perimeter
of our property that is paid for by the county electrical utility (publicly
owned).  Initially, when the bulb died we were grateful that the light
pollution was gone, but crime in the area (mostly vehicle prowls) prompted
us to reconsider.  A call to the utility got the light repaired the next
day.  We also have a motion sensor light nearer to the house.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country

I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further
out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their
power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned
on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at
night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns
off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it
off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying
to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all
farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I
can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it
off.

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Re: [MBZ] BLUETEC question

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
???  I thought that Bluetec IS def.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLUETEC question

Well it is for cars that require def. not all MB bluetec need it, but after
about 09 they all do.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The local fuel station where i fuel my 300D  300CD has a box on top 
 of the diesel pump labeled diesel  exhaust fluid. Is that the 
 generic kitty p..s for bluetecs? Kids that run pumps have no clue. Not
that I  want one.
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
'Cos they don't get driven?

-MMM-

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 1976 Mercedes Benz 280S
 http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/5155422297.html

 via cPro Craigslist App
 iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
 Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] 190SL

2015-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Looks like the message got approved with the pics stripped off it. I do 
not understand how pictures get linked on messages, I thought the list 
mom approved a msg with pics then the pics got converted into links.  I 
guess not.


--R



On 8/15/15 5:30 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

Yes?   What about them?  :)

-MMM-

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:




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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The list does send it back. Gmail just does not show your own messages

Sent from my iPhone

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 OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
 not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 190SL

2015-08-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:09:28 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It was there.  The Okielist software stripped it.  It’s totally random
 from what I’ve seen.

In other words, try again.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WTB: crankshaft hub

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
SDL I got had been in some shop in arkieland.  german name etc, 
presumably knew something about german cars.  The IP had apparently 
been replaced by one that had been sprayed with a gold lacquer for 
identity.  It leaked like a seive at the flange.  When I finally took 
it out and put in a new oring, I found the pump was way out of time. 
The pump was already leaking at the delivery valve orings shortly 
after I got the car, so the rebuilt pump is somewhat suspect too. 
There is a post somewhere in these here archives about the pump 
oring, leaking and way out of time.


So yes, a bad oring and a loose nut or 3 on the IP flange can result 
in big oil puddles.




On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 Dude!  Way better to be sure _before_ you get out the wrenches!



No truer words were ever spoken.

After lunch it was time, so I started gathering up the tools, parts, etc.
I couldn't find the crankshaft lock!

I spent about three hours in the garage, looking in all the places that I
might have put it, and finally gave up looking.  The garage is much cleaner
now, and I found a few other things I was looking for, but the lock is MIA.

I decided that with the limited amount of time I had left, I could at least
clean off the front of the engine and positively identify the leak.  After
I removed the cooling fan and shroud, I used brake cleaner to clean around
the crankshaft and the vacuum pump and the front of the engine in general.
Ran the car for about ten minutes, observed and felt around the front, and
could find no leaks. Hmmm.  Started the car again, and cleaned off more of
the oily mess on the left side of the engine (injection pump side) and
immediately found a steady drip drip drip.  Shut off the engine and started
looking and feeling for what could be the source under the injection pump,
and touched one of the three injection pump flange nuts and found it finger
tight!  Ah hah!

I just had time to torque the three bolts to spec (20-25 Nm) and run the
engine a bit.  That is not really a fair test, so tomorrow I'm going to
take the car to the car wash and clean off the engine properly, and see if
the leak was just the injection pump all along.  Hard to imagine that all
the oil was migrating forward from the injection pump flange,  I'm still
suspicious of the crankshaft seal.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

'Cos they don't get driven?

-MMM-

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



Even has the charcoal canister, and probably an air pump anti smog 
crap,, along with the yorkie compressor.



Great chassis to put an OM603 or 606 in.

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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

2015-08-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Greg wrote:
 
 So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:
 
 Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged
 to full, the ignition switch causes a loud click (the
 solenoid actuating) but then no engine turning.  Are these
 symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the other?

I doubt they are related.

Click-no-crank is usually the fault of the solenoid itself -
the contacts not making connection.

The solenoid is entirely out of the circuit until the key is
turned, so it's unlikely it's the cause of the phantom
discharge. 

Unless the click-no-crank is because the battery is dead.  An
easy check is turn on an interior light.  It should dim - but
not practically go out.  If it goes out, the battery has
insufficient current capacity.  This could mean either the
starter is drawing too much or the battery is weak.

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Re: [MBZ] BEHR 300TD R4 COMPRESSOR

2015-08-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Rick, which 1911 is better?  I'm going to guess Kimber, because usually
someone's name goes on a piece of work when they take pride in it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Kind of like a 1911. But trust me, there IS a difference, just like
 between a Hi Point and a Kimber.
 They look VERY similar.
 They are most assuredly NOT.

 Rick


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[MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes


1976 Mercedes Benz 280S
http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/5155422297.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] OT: EPA

2015-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 What about the deposits remaining at the bottom of the river?  Those may
 persist long after the solubles have flown away.

Don't you know the difference between good heavy metals and bad heavy metals?

Duck hunters' lead birdshot = bad
EPA's cadmium/lead/whatever = good. 

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[MBZ] test

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Most messages I have sent to the list have bounced, so I changed email
accounts to see if that would work.

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Normal I think. IIRC Gmail filters you from your own messages.
-Curt
  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Greg Fiorentino greg.fiorent...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:50 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Gmail Question
   
OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list
not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] 'nother Test

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
OK, now I see it :-)  Thanks.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] 'nother Test

Testing sending from a comcast mailing address.

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[MBZ] 'nother Test

2015-08-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Testing sending from a comcast mailing address.

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No rust to speak of   ???

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Oh man, a 116 with a 603 would be awesome.
 Actually a VW engine would be hilarious in there. The VE engine in my '98
 can be turned up to 150hp 230lb/ft for a couple grand. There'd be enough
 space to live in the engine bay with a little VW TDI lawnmower engine in
 there.
 -Curt

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 Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

 'Cos they don't get driven?
 
 -MMM-
 
 On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Even has the charcoal canister, and probably an air pump anti smog
 crap,, along with the yorkie compressor.


 Great chassis to put an OM603 or 606 in.



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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks, just what I wanted!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 14, 2015 3:41:18 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
 Max wrote:
 
 How do you measure toe-in that way?  In other words, how do
 you calibrate the laser pointer?

Trigonometry.  And the fact that the 123 manual has the
toe-in spec in degrees. *smiles*  But with a known tire
diameter and a toe-in length the angle can be calculated.

Regarding calibrating the level, I used a 10ft piece of
Unistrut that my eyeball determined was straight.  I measured
the height of the beam at the level and at 10 ft and figured
that was close enough.

I wrote up a page on my process in a file called
w123-toein-alignment_howto_screen.pdf

Find it at http://host-a.net/fmiser/


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[MBZ] Progress in the okie move

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I just loaded the LAST of the engines on the trailer to move to the new shop. I 
discovered I had a wagon head 617 engine. 

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190SL at the Cars Coffee this morning

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The price for 190SLs has gone through the roof.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Red, in good shape.  I liked it.  I don't how the list handles pics but I
 will put them in another post

 --R



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[MBZ] OT: Google photo recognition

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
there's a volunteer plant in my front yard that I cannot identify.  How
does the Google photo ID work?
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Re: [MBZ] For sale: 123 Instrument clusters

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How many does he have, I wonder, although I am well stocked with clusters
of my own.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Not mine etc.

 Contact vsorensen2...@gmail.com

 In the Dallas, tx area.  make an offer.

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Would you rather pay high prices without even knowing?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



  On August 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
  2.99 in Muskegon, MI. Two days ago. Refinery malfunction in Indiana.
 

 Now our Attorney General is taking a page from the Granholm playbook and
 sending threatening letters to gas stations about price increases.

 Does he know something I don't know, or are the stations just passing along
 wholesale price increases and he's being a jackass?

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Mower head gasket update

2015-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 15, 2015 at 8:49 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 My neighbor gave it to me because it was burning oil.

I've got one of those. MTD with 15hp single cylinder Briggs. 
He said he had to take a bath after mowing because of the oil cloud condensing
on him.
Then when the starter died, he bought a new Husqvarna by AYP.
I was going to replace the starter and sell it until he told me how badly it
smoked. 
It's about the same vintage (22 years old) as my MTD that's identical except
mine has a wider 
deck and a twin cylinder engine. So the 15hp is just a parts machine, but it was
free.
My only complaint is I bought a $50 battery a month before he gave me the spare
tractor. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Mower head gasket update

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
My neighbor gave it to me because it was burning oil.

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 On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's great, this was the mower you got cheap, right?  
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Mower head gasket update

2015-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I did cut with it once before I tore it down. It cut way better with dull 
blades than my other MTD made 46 mower cuts with brand new high dollar fancy 
blades on it.

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 On Aug 15, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Nice!  Let us know how it cuts.
 
 My lot is only about a quarter acre, I've got a push mower that lasted 
 fifteen years now.  Finally put on a new blade this summer, and I think it 
 may finally be time to overhaul the carburetor, but this thing just keeps 
 going.  Yard Machine with a Briggs  Stratton motor.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On August 15, 2015 8:49:24 AM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 My neighbor gave it to me because it was burning oil.
 
 
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[MBZ] Nice 190SL at the Cars Coffee this morning

2015-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Red, in good shape.  I liked it.  I don't how the list handles pics but 
I will put them in another post


--R



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Re: [MBZ] Mower head gasket update

2015-08-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Nice!  Let us know how it cuts.

My lot is only about a quarter acre, I've got a push mower that lasted fifteen 
years now.  Finally put on a new blade this summer, and I think it may finally 
be time to overhaul the carburetor, but this thing just keeps going.  Yard 
Machine with a Briggs  Stratton motor.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 15, 2015 8:49:24 AM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
My neighbor gave it to me because it was burning oil.



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[MBZ] 190SL

2015-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes




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Re: [MBZ] Mower head gasket update

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We've also got a quarter acre. I cut it with a 1965 Snapper 308X rear engine 
rider that my great uncle Paris bought in 1967. It'd been owned by a golf 
course before that, they traded it in, the equipment shop re-powered it and he 
used it until he died in 1989. After his death it got pushed under a spruce 
tree on the farm until I retrieved it in 2008. I re-powered it with an engine 
from an '88 Snapper rear engine rider in 2009 and have cut the grass with it 
ever since. Its even still got one original 1965 tire on it.
Probably needs a new blade and rubber drive whatsis but otherwise its great.
-Curt
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Cc: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mower head gasket update
   
Nice!  Let us know how it cuts.

My lot is only about a quarter acre, I've got a push mower that lasted fifteen 
years now.  Finally put on a new blade this summer, and I think it may finally 
be time to overhaul the carburetor, but this thing just keeps going.  Yard 
Machine with a Briggs  Stratton motor.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300



On August 15, 2015 8:49:24 AM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
My neighbor gave it to me because it was burning oil.



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Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This is brilliant, good show Craig!
-Curt
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Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net 
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
   
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:16:39 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wonder if the power company can put a switch in so it can be turned
 off? Probably not.

Actually, they don't have to. All you need to do is to rig up a small
light (maybe even a laser pointer) to shine on the photocell of the
sun-sensor. Turn on the light, the power company's light goes off.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country

2015-08-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:21:21 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 This is brilliant, good show Craig!

Thank you!


Craig


 On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:16:39 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I wonder if the power company can put a switch in so it can be turned
  off? Probably not.
 
 Actually, they don't have to. All you need to do is to rig up a small
 light (maybe even a laser pointer) to shine on the photocell of the
 sun-sensor. Turn on the light, the power company's light goes off.

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[MBZ] TDI update

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Picked up my 2005 Golf TDI from the TDI mechanic today. He put in a new 
transmission and timing belt/water pump, changed the oil, oil filter, fuel 
filter, air filter, and polished the headlights.
He said the clutch in it looked like it maybe had 10,000 miles on it plus it 
has nearly new tires which leads me to theorize that after putting a new clutch 
and tires into it the previous owner freaked when the transmission gave trouble 
and considering it needs new front fenders and a windshield refused to put any 
more money into it.
So its quite drive-able now but I don't think will pass inspection because of a 
ding in the windshield. Safelite says its probably repairable, I'll make a run 
up there and see what they can do. Then I'll see about front fenders and 
getting it detailed. We washed it but it had some gunk on it which will 
probably have to be buffed out.
I think the previous owner had babied it, when I first got it up to highway 
speed it was kind of pokey and the first couple times I really got on it it 
poured smoke. After a couple hard run ups its feeling a lot peppier so I think 
I got the carbon out of it but a week or two of highway runs will prove that 
out.
Oh and the speedo doesn't work. I'd bet the mechanic hasn't hooked it up. I 
didn't have plates on it so I bet he didn't take it for a ride. I'll look 
online and see if its something simple to hook back up, otherwise it'll be back 
to him for a checkup...
-Curt
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