[MBZ] sls

2015-09-01 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
Andrew

i've speculated about blackness in the sls oil

i have it but don't worry about it

the black could also come from the deteriorated hose

you can change the seal on the back of the sls pump

i have one that i've never gotten around to doing (out of the car) and have 
been running a pump out of a junker for several years

did those rear hoses from diamler cost a fortune?

i've had to replace front supply and high pressure hose, but i reused the ends 
and had the HP one made for the supply hose i used some of the mesh looking 
clear hose from lowes and it's held up fine for maybe 5 years and as a bonus 
it's clear so you can see that you have fluid


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

One of my uncles was a glider pilot in WWII in Europe. He barely survived
the crash landing, and it was over 40 years later before he would get in
another aircraft.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m0qJ2thQ7c

45 min about WWII gliders

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[MBZ] OT: Anyone like a pickup toolbox?

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I have a new DeeZee DZ6170lock toolbox.  Fits any Fochevdogde 
fullsize pickup.  I'll sell it for a good price.  If anyone can use 
if send me a message offlist.  It is midline, not the cheaper red 
label Deezee box.  Shiny bright.  I could possibly trade it and some 
money at the factory for a black one or a box for a small truck.


This is it:

http://www.deezee.com/Padlock-Crossover-Tool-Box/p33050

K'leb?

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Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2015-09-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Bur what is the scam? Non delivery? Asking for more $$ later?  Not that  I
would  bite on this.
On Sep 1, 2015 10:01 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I thought these were worth more.
>>
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>> http://lawrence.craigslist.org/cto/5201049588.html
>>
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> Prob'ly  call and find out   Not a native, for sure.
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Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

I thought these were worth more.

Mercedes packaged G-500 Wagon 2002 Benz
http://lawrence.craigslist.org/cto/5201049588.html


Prob'ly  call and find out   Not a native, for sure.

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
A few years back I heard a commentator remark that "the problem with 
Americans today is that they are too far removed from the production 
of food."  That rang true for me.



 -Original Message-
 From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:24 PM

 I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living creature, 
other than biting

 > insects or maybe a rabid animal.



Ayup!

critters like minks are nasty smelly awful animals, but they make 
really nice coats, and ruskie hats.


What about all the dinosaurs who died so albore and the hollyweird 
preachers can fly around scolding us for how we live?  What about all 
the wheat, corn, beans of all forms, and other grasses, fruits and 
vegetables who give their lives for their self-righteous lifestyle?


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Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2015-09-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I am naive- exactly how  would this work as a scam?
On Sep 1, 2015 9:48 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Sure sounds like it
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Do liberals drive Mercedes in your analysis? Just checking.
On Sep 1, 2015 9:46 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> You're vegan?
>>
>> Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting
>> critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by other critters.
>>
>> Curt
>>
>
> Shifting pain, shifting debt, shifting blame, shifting cost, shifting kil
> ling are all non existent in the liberal mindset.  NIMBY is the rule.  A
> liberal mind is always blameless as long as they had good intentions, they
> are blameless, because their mind has shifted the consequences elsewhere.
>  Then, in their mind, some other thing or person is to blame.
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

That's a very good idea, but you wouldn't have to make little parachutes. Just 
tie helium balloons to their bellies and let them float away. They'll drift for 
miles and you'll know how far when you start hearing reports of tiny alien 
invaders. 

Another solution would be baby pythons from the Everglades. They have enormous 
appetites and will follow mice wherever they go. When they get too big, you can 
ship then to Andrew where they can feed on the rabbits.

Gerry

PS: Anyone over 65 who gets the new "Fluzone High Dose" flu shot should be 
prepared for the possibility of moderately severe flu symptoms for a few days; 
(which is why I'm sitting here at the computer instead of working.)
  

OK Don wrote:
> I read on one site that they live trapped the mice, spray painted them,
> then dumped then over a mile away. They caught them again in two weeks.
> This got me thinking about strapping little parachutes on them and dropping
> them a hundred or so miles away and seeing if they ever make it back. The
> live catch traps are out already (they catch more than one at a time) . . .
> 
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > You're vegan?
> >
> > Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting
> > critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by other critters.
> >
> > Curt
> >
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2015-09-01 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Sure sounds like it

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought these were worth more.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

You're vegan?

Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. 
Transplanting critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed 
by other critters.


Curt


Shifting pain, shifting debt, shifting blame, shifting cost, shifting 
kil ling are all non existent in the liberal mindset.  NIMBY is the 
rule.  A liberal mind is always blameless as long as they had good 
intentions, they are blameless, because their mind has shifted the 
consequences elsewhere.   Then, in their mind, some other thing or 
person is to blame.



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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of crack

2015-09-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
That should be a capital  offense.
On Sep 1, 2015 7:45 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> At least they had the foresight to wrap the roof and not paint it.
>
> That thing is an abomination.  It needs to be put right.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I expected to see they dropped a small block Chevy in it.
> >
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[MBZ] Is this a scam?

2015-09-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I thought these were worth more.

Mercedes packaged G-500 Wagon 2002 Benz
http://lawrence.craigslist.org/cto/5201049588.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
How true!

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A few years back I heard a commentator remark that "the problem with
> Americans today is that they are too far removed from the production of
> food."  That rang true for me.
>
>


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[MBZ] OT - Shotgun Shopping

2015-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As the days get shorter and the temperatures start to drop into the 80s, the 
thought of getting back out on the sporting clays range starts to surface.  The 
youngest boy and I have been talking about it recently, which made me realize I 
need to start seriously looking for a good over/under 12GA shotgun.

In my previous searches I really, really like the Lanbers, especially the 2097 
30” barrel, but since they stopped selling in the US they’re getting hard to 
find, new or used.  I’ll continue to watch for them, but in the meantime...

For those of you who are shotgun people, I would be interested in hearing your 
suggestions for a beginner sporting clay shotgun.  I would lie to keep the 
price below $1000, and yes, I know I’m not going to get a Browning or something 
really nice for that kind of money.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
A few years back I heard a commentator remark that "the problem with Americans 
today is that they are too far removed from the production of food."  That rang 
true for me.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:24 PM
> 
> I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living creature, other than 
> biting
> insects or maybe a rabid animal.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of crack

2015-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
At least they had the foresight to wrap the roof and not paint it.

That thing is an abomination.  It needs to be put right.

Dan


> On Sep 1, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I expected to see they dropped a small block Chevy in it.
> 
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[MBZ] Holy mother of crack

2015-09-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I expected to see they dropped a small block Chevy in it.

1971 mercedes 300SEL 6.3 RARE!
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5200943467.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:44:05 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.
> 
> My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
> power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also
> on. Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.
> 
> Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep
> vermin from eating your car?


http://bugspray.com/mice.html has a number of ideas.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread clay via Mercedes
For mice, I have a five gallon metal kerosene can.  

The dregs of a keg of beer get installed in the lower portion of the can, about 
eight inches.  Mice will try to get in to enjoy the beer.  Rat size hole at the 
top, slick side, deep enough that only the rats can touch bottom.  Mice lose 
hope and become rat food while the rat pickles in the beer.  Slugs drop in as 
well.

Feral cats who stalk my chickens find the pointy end of a .177 pellet injected 
into their hind end.  Low pumps so not fatal, just painful.  Applied enough 
times, the cat learns to avoid my place.  

Squirrels are too stupid to catch on quickly, so end up on a crows dinner table.

clay

On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:54 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

> I read on one site that they live trapped the mice, spray painted them,
> then dumped then over a mile away. They caught them again in two weeks.
> This got me thinking about strapping little parachutes on them and dropping
> them a hundred or so miles away and seeing if they ever make it back. The
> live catch traps are out already (they catch more than one at a time) . . .
> 
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You're vegan?
>> 
>> Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting
>> critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by other critters.
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
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> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] email search - was: Viton tubing for injector return lines?

2015-09-01 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote:
> 
> Yahoo mail is good for searching from the website, rotten
> from the tablet...

Access the website from the tablet?

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Now this sounds promising - "Mouse Trap Powered By Electric Fence Charger "

""You can catch mice with very little expense and no poison. All you need
is an electric fence charger," says inventor Keith Lamb of Gruver, Texas.
According to Lamb, a single 12-volt or 110-volt fence charger can be used
to operate any number of traps over an entire farm and can even be used
inside vehicles such as combines, tractors, pickups, and motorhomes. "On my
farm I have two traps inside my shop, one inside my pickup, and another one
inside my motorhome. All the traps are hooked up to an electric fence that
surrounds my pasture. " What makes the idea work so well, says Lamb, is
that fence chargers operate at high voltage -- 3,000 to 9,000 depending on
the model -- which is more than enough to kill most mice. If the mouse
doesn't die right away it will be stunned and fall into water at the bottom
of his traps and immediately drown. And though they operate at high
voltage, electric fence chargers draw very little amperage. "Fence chargers
barely use up enough electricity to change your meter reading," notes Lamb.
His patent pending traps are made from 2 1/2-gal. chemical jugs cut down to
8 in. high. A 2-in. high hole is cut into each end of the container, about
6 in. off the bottom. A ramp -- made out of cardboard, wood or even rocks
-- leads up to each hole. He then pop rivets a pair of 1-in. wide metal
straps inside the container. One strap runs lengthwise about 3 in. above
the bottom of the container, while the other strap runs across and about 5
in. above it. A ground wire leads from the bottom strap to the fence
charger. The positive wire is attached to a small metal screen enclosure
that contains the bait and hangs about 3 in. below the top strap. Water
fills the container to a depth of 1 or 2 in. The mouse enters the trap on
the cardboard "ramp" and then follows the grounded strap to the bait. As it
reaches for the bait, the mouse contacts the screen, gets electrocuted, and
falls into the water. "It's a simple idea but it works fantastic," says
Lamb. "I've caught as many as 22 mice in a single trap in one night. I've
caught more than 400 mice since I installed my first trap last year. The
container can be any shape or size. I've used 1 gal. anti-freeze jugs and
5-gal. pails. "The mouse usually gets electrocuted before it ever touches
the bait, so the bait always stays fresh. You never have to reset the trap.
The only maintenance is to remove the mice from the water. I think it's a
practical idea even if you don't have livestock and have no need for an
electric fence charger. You can buy a battery-operated charger for cheap.
Or you can install a 110-volt model and use it to operate traps inside your
buildings, then run a wire from the buildings to your vehicles outside."
Lamb runs wires all over his farmstead, elevating it up over the driveway
on poles so it's out of the way. "I put an antiseptic in the water, such as
lysol or household ammonia, to kill any bacteria carried by the mouse, and
to keep the mouse from smelling for several days. During the winter you can
put antifreeze in the water." Lamb has already sold more than 100 traps in
his local area. He's now looking for a manufacturer and is also designing a
trap for rats." -

See more at:
http://www.farmshow.com/view_articles.php?a_id=317#sthash.WIfqEZAz.dpuf


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I read on one site that they live trapped the mice, spray painted them,
then dumped then over a mile away. They caught them again in two weeks.
This got me thinking about strapping little parachutes on them and dropping
them a hundred or so miles away and seeing if they ever make it back. The
live catch traps are out already (they catch more than one at a time) . . .

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> You're vegan?
>
> Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting
> critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by other critters.
>
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You're vegan?

Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting 
critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by other critters.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No one is feeding the cats - they are feral, and have been for the four
years we've been here. What I've read else where indicates that cats don't
keep mice out of engine compartments. Solid aluminum fences do apparently -
-

http://www.hastingsreserve.org/Mammals/MiceInCars.html



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> We have several feral cats around the house and the neighboring property -
>> still have mice.
>>
>
> a.  get more cats
> b.  the cats are not hungry enough or
> c.  the cats are too stupid to hunt.
>
> d.  Tell SWMBO and the neighbors to stop feeding the cats.
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Skeeters?  Cucarachas? Flies?  or just mammals?

My cheap pellet gun has cleared out the local squirrel population around 
the house (like all guns, it does this all by itself with no human 
control), I see some out in the woods but they have not migrated back to 
the vicinity of the house and my wife's squirrel feeders.


-R

On 9/1/15 6:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living creature, other than
biting insects or maybe a rabid animal.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I was going to point out that guns would be difficult in town, then I
realized you probably meant air gun.
 From the specs for the low to mid range air guns it would appear that .177
delivers way more energy than .22.
-Curt
   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber

--R



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I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
avail.  What is their favorite food?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com>

wrote:


About 2.5 per acre - -

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


cats  How many felines do you have per square yard?




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who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I did change the SLS relatively recently and it has been clear.  I'll
re-check the clarity of the remaining fluid in the SLS fill canister.  If
it's still clear and not sooty then it's likely that the faulty flex hose
itself had deteriorated to the point of contaminating the SLS fluid locally.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:27 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > This is a chicken and egg kind of thing. Did the SLS pump
> > fail, sending oil through the system that damaged the
> > spheres? If so, did this the flex hose to rupture? On the
> > other hand, if the spheres were already defective, could
> > this somehow have led to contamination of the SLS fluid,
> > turning it black? Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Failing SLS accumulators (spheres) will NOT cause the oil to
> turn black.
>
> I have seen no evidence for or against engine oil causing
> accumulator or hose damage.
>
> With a failing pump seal, I have only seen SLS oil leak into
> the engine - not engine oil leak into the pump.  That's
> because the shaft is on the high-pressure side of the pump -
> not the input/suction side.
>
> The fluid get dark with age and use.  And if you have a hose
> that's dead, I could see that maybe the deterioration of the
> hose causing the fluid to get dark.
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living creature, other than
biting insects or maybe a rabid animal.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was going to point out that guns would be difficult in town, then I
> realized you probably meant air gun.
> From the specs for the low to mid range air guns it would appear that .177
> delivers way more energy than .22.
> -Curt
>   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Rich Thomas 
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:36 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
> > avail.  What is their favorite food?
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> About 2.5 per acre - -
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
>  cats  How many felines do you have per square yard?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >>
> >> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
> >>
> >> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> >> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
> >>
> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-09-01 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Andrew wrote:
> 
> This is a chicken and egg kind of thing. Did the SLS pump
> fail, sending oil through the system that damaged the
> spheres? If so, did this the flex hose to rupture? On the
> other hand, if the spheres were already defective, could
> this somehow have led to contamination of the SLS fluid,
> turning it black? Inquiring minds want to know.

Failing SLS accumulators (spheres) will NOT cause the oil to
turn black.

I have seen no evidence for or against engine oil causing
accumulator or hose damage.

With a failing pump seal, I have only seen SLS oil leak into
the engine - not engine oil leak into the pump.  That's
because the shaft is on the high-pressure side of the pump -
not the input/suction side.

The fluid get dark with age and use.  And if you have a hose
that's dead, I could see that maybe the deterioration of the
hose causing the fluid to get dark.

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I was going to point out that guns would be difficult in town, then I realized 
you probably meant air gun.
From the specs for the low to mid range air guns it would appear that .177 
delivers way more energy than .22.
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas  
 Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
   
Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber

--R



On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
> avail.  What is their favorite food?
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> About 2.5 per acre - -
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
 cats  How many felines do you have per square yard?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>>
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] email search - was: Viton tubing for injector return lines?

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yahoo mail is good for searching from the website, rotten from the tablet...
-Curt

  From: fmiser via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: fmiser  
 Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] email search - was: Viton tubing for injector return lines?
   
> Curt wrote:
> 
> Glad you found it, its hard to search from the tablet.

I use a program called "mairix" that is a powerful and fast
email searching tool.  Command line, and I think it's Linux
only.  I have many, many thousands of emails on my system and
it indexes them daily resulting in a search taking only a
couple seconds maximum.

My iOS tablet sure doesn't have a command line interface.
Maybe Android does...



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Re: [MBZ] email search - was: Viton tubing for injector return lines?

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Philip sez:

My iOS tablet sure doesn't have a command line interface.
Maybe Android does...


I'd guess the BSD underlies iOS as in OS10.x  Surely there is a 
terminal app of some sort that lets you under the skirts, so to speak.


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber

--R



On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
avail.  What is their favorite food?

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


About 2.5 per acre - -

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


cats   How many felines do you have per square yard?






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Re: [MBZ] email search - was: Viton tubing for injector return lines?

2015-09-01 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote:
> 
> Glad you found it, its hard to search from the tablet.

I use a program called "mairix" that is a powerful and fast
email searching tool.  Command line, and I think it's Linux
only.  I have many, many thousands of emails on my system and
it indexes them daily resulting in a search taking only a
couple seconds maximum.

My iOS tablet sure doesn't have a command line interface.
Maybe Android does...

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Be careful - might be a hornet's nest.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> About 2.5 per acre - -
>>
>
> Not enough.  see the previous email with the 4 step plan.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
avail.  What is their favorite food?


lead!  I am sure your neighbors would not mind!

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Bunnies eat mint leaves?
I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably 
attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and 
they glue onto the trap really well.

-Curt


If DDT was as bad as "they" want us to believe, I'd dust my hostas 
with DDT.  Unfortunately, the wabbits can eat the DDT and the hostas 
with impunity, and they breed like...  (wait for it...)

wabbits!

chicken wire keeps them out!

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

We have several feral cats around the house and the neighboring property -
still have mice.


a.  get more cats
b.  the cats are not hungry enough or
c.  the cats are too stupid to hunt.

d.  Tell SWMBO and the neighbors to stop feeding the cats.

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

About 2.5 per acre - -


Not enough.  see the previous email with the 4 step plan.

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I had a different problem this year.  The rustbucket SDL has been 
parked for the summer.  Behind the driver's side headlight, around 
the A/C pressure switch/drier there was a bunch of grass and mud.  No 
mouse nest, but it looked like something bigger had slept there.  My 
second though was packrat, but AFIK, no 4 legged pack rats around 
here.   (only 2 legged)  Pack rats build much bigger nests than this 
one was.   In the flint hills of KS, that is a different story, but 
none around here that I know of.  There are groundhogs though.


My suspicion is that a ground hog put the mud and grass there in the 
spring and then baked itself in the warmth under the black hood 
parked next to south and west facing building sided that blocked the 
wind and reflected the afternoon sun.


The critter had big teeth, as it bit through the LF TS wires, and 
chewed insulation off other wires and cut some other wires down in 
that corner.  I doubt the AC will ever run, so I didn't fix those.  I 
had to splice and insulate several other wires.  I've never heard of 
groundhogs sleeping in a car before.  I always get the oddball things.


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Bunnies eat mint leaves?
I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract them 
better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the trap 
really well.
-Curt
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I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
avail.  What is their favorite food?

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> About 2.5 per acre - -
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> cats  How many felines do you have per square yard?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no
avail.  What is their favorite food?

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> About 2.5 per acre - -
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> cats   How many felines do you have per square yard?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
About 2.5 per acre - -

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>> cats   How many felines do you have per square yard?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We have several feral cats around the house and the neighboring property -
still have mice.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cats?
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This is the time of year to start trappin the meeces. They'll be wanting to get 
inside as the cold weather comes on, reducing the population pressure outside 
reduces their need to get inside. I've been very successful trapping chipmunks 
this year and have accidentally (incidentally?) caught a couple mice while I 
was at it.
I'm going to try the peppermint oil trick this year. Supposedly you cut it 
50/50 with water and spray all around the foundation of the house...
For the snowmobiles I have yogurt cups with mothballs in the footwells, keeps 
the mice out good. Maybe you could put some cups of mothballs under the car?
-Curt
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>We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.
>
>My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
>power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on.
>Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.
>
>Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin
>from eating your car?
>
>--
>OK Don

cats  How many felines do you have per square yard?



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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.

My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on.
Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.

Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin
from eating your car?

--
OK Don


cats   How many felines do you have per square yard?

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Re: [MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hi there, do you have a first name?
Your first bet that he's incompetent is he says 20psi. PSI is a pressure 
measurement, vacuum is measured in inches of mercury.
The steps are dead simple, find the first T after the pump (on the front of the 
engine) and cap it. Pull a vacuum on the engine side and see if it holds, if 
not theres a problem in the pump or the line, fix that. If that holds move to 
the next junction. Cover everything under the hood first, then move to the 
driver's footwell and track throughout the car. 
Buy a MityVac and do it yourself, very rewarding.
-Curt
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:01 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system
   
I finally reached the point where the engine will not shut off when
removing the key last week.  I must use the stop button under the hood
each time.  The door locks also stopped working.  A mechanic has found
one source in the drivers door and something else under the hood.  He
says there is a still a leak somewhere, he is not getting the 20 psi to
restore all functionality.  He says he is not getting any air to the
tailgate area.

I received an MBZ parts catalog and am reviewing the Vacuum System
1977-85 on page 15.  I am losing confidence in his ability to properly
troubleshoot and repair the system.  

Any thoughts on where else to look?

Thanks

R

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Lock up one cat inside the car, one under the hood.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cat?
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 9/1/15 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.
>>
>> My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
>> power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also
>> on.
>> Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.
>>
>> Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin
>> from eating your car?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] BenzpR0n

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Some idiot says on that web page that alloy wheels were incorrect on a W11
coupe.  Hogwash!  The factory data card for my 9/69 280SEC 3.5 listed
alloys as an option, and they look very correct.

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> http://oppositelock.kinja.com/benz-dump-1727929702
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Cat?

--R



On 9/1/15 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.

My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on.
Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.

Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin
from eating your car?




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Re: [MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yeah what they said.  First is to put your mity-vac (HF sells a version 
for cheap but a "real" one is not that much anyway) on a hose near the 
brake booster where some branch off, and see if you are actually getting 
vacuum from the vac pump.  The diaphragms tear in them over time and 
vacuum gradually decreases.  Or it could be bad/cracked lines or tees up 
there under the hood, I ended up bodging some brass barbs and tees into 
the system by the brake booster because the plastic things were all 
brittle.  Lines crack and leak too.


From that set of branches you can start testing what is leaking if the 
pump is sucking right, could be the brake booster diaphragm or anything 
in the door lock system.  You can stick a pencil or a golf tee in those 
lines at the main tee there by the brake booster and see if that 
restores your brakes and shutoff, in which case you can leave the line 
going to the doors disconnected and at least have brakes and shutoff 
until you resolve the issue further downstream.


If you don't want to fool with it for now, get about 6 ft of vac line 
and run it to the shutoff then the other end into the cabin where you 
can get it, suck on it to shut off the car.  You still won't have brakes 
but that will alleviate the shutoff process.


I have a writeup with pics on changing the vac pump diaphragm, it is not 
particularly hard just a bit fiddly.


--R



On 9/1/15 12:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

RA writes:


‎ I am losing confidence in his >ability to properly
troubleshoot and repair the >system.
Any thoughts on where else to >look?

Buy a Mity Vac. Do it yourself.

It isn't too terribly difficult to T/S vacuum problems, but it is time 
consuming, and much like electrical troubleshooting, you must possess the 
ability to think logically, and in a straight line.
Isolate one system at a time, vacuum it down, etc.

I have a comprehensive vacuum troubleshooting guide I received from Craig 
several years ago. I can post it online, with a link if you wish.
‎
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎OK Don inquires:

>Turns out rodents have chewed >up almost $600 worth of wiring.

>Short of parking in a hermetically >sealed garage, how does one >keep vermin
>from eating your car?

Fresh Cab. 

http://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Rodent-Repellent-Pouch-Ounce/dp/B0021LWPPY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441124598&sr=8-1&keywords=fresh+cab+rodent+repellent

Or Peppermint oil. 

http://youtu.be/KmiXIrVyxjM

If you put the cotton balls in pill bottles with holes poked in them, the mice 
can't remove the cotton. 

‎
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Re: [MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system

2015-09-01 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
RA writes:

>‎ I am losing confidence in his >ability to properly
>troubleshoot and repair the >system.  

>Any thoughts on where else to >look?

Buy a Mity Vac. Do it yourself.  

It isn't too terribly difficult to T/S vacuum problems, but it is time 
consuming, and much like electrical troubleshooting, you must possess the 
ability to think logically, and in a straight line. 
Isolate one system at a time, vacuum it down, etc.  

I have a comprehensive vacuum troubleshooting guide I received from Craig 
several years ago. I can post it online, with a link if you wish. 
‎
Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system

2015-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is all of maybe 10-15 minutes worth of diagnostics with a MityVac.  It's 
vacuum, not pressure, so I'm confused why they would reference a positive 
pressure.

If you have access to a MityVac and some time, let me know and I can outline 
the steps. It's stupidly simple once you know how.

Dan

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> On Sep 1, 2015, at 12:01 PM, RA via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I finally reached the point where the engine will not shut off when
> removing the key last week.  I must use the stop button under the hood
> each time.  The door locks also stopped working.  A mechanic has found
> one source in the drivers door and something else under the hood.  He
> says there is a still a leak somewhere, he is not getting the 20 psi to
> restore all functionality.  He says he is not getting any air to the
> tailgate area.
> 
> I received an MBZ parts catalog and am reviewing the Vacuum System
> 1977-85 on page 15.  I am losing confidence in his ability to properly
> troubleshoot and repair the system.  
> 
> Any thoughts on where else to look?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> R
> 
> 1985 300TD 241,000 miles
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Cats?

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> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.
> 
> My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
> power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on.
> Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.
> 
> Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin
> from eating your car?
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system

2015-09-01 Thread RA via Mercedes
I finally reached the point where the engine will not shut off when
removing the key last week.  I must use the stop button under the hood
each time.  The door locks also stopped working.  A mechanic has found
one source in the drivers door and something else under the hood.  He
says there is a still a leak somewhere, he is not getting the 20 psi to
restore all functionality.  He says he is not getting any air to the
tailgate area.

I received an MBZ parts catalog and am reviewing the Vacuum System
1977-85 on page 15.  I am losing confidence in his ability to properly
troubleshoot and repair the system.  

Any thoughts on where else to look?

Thanks

R

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[MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport.

My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no
power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on.
Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring.

Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin
from eating your car?

-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Car Naming

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Hmmm . . .

Self driving cars, aside from the hacking aspects, open up a whole new
> realm of deviant behaviour/thinking.   (I put the "u" in there for Fred,
> Randy, Hendrick, and others who grew up with the queen's englisch.)


I thought you were thinking along the lines of Sperry and his use of the
auto pilot he invented:
http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/lawrence-sperry-inventor-of-the-autopilot-and-the-m-1592623110


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for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] BenzpR0n

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/benz-dump-1727929702

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Car Naming

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

It had never occurred to me, but seems obvious in retrospect:

http://xkcd.com/1571/

I'm not sure how far back his name database went, there would be a lot more
Ds pre-facelift I suppose.

Best,
Tim



I thought that was a name-lift.
Anyhow, I thought this one about self driving cars was great!
http://xkcd.com/1559/

Self driving cars, aside from the hacking aspects, open up a whole 
new realm of deviant behaviour/thinking.   (I put the "u" in there 
for Fred, Randy, Hendrick, and others who grew up with the queen's 
englisch.)



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Re: [MBZ] The search begins

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


Wagons with roof racks are nice for hauling junk.

Of course you could build a rear bumper rack on a SLC to extend the 
usefulness of a roofrack for same.


Or you could make a bumper to bumper roof rack...  (ugly but useful 
for hauling ladders, lumber, etc.)



I finally found the w115 racer a new home.  She will sacrifice her 
OM617 to a jeep, and probably be stripped and crushed.  Sold it to a 
fellow out of left field who seemed like a flake CL response.  Told 
me in email he was going to buy it and would i be home today.  Yeah, 
sure, I will be here... (thinking I will waste the whole day and he 
never shows).  Called that he was late and may not arrive until 
around dark.  Sinking feeling sets in, but he tells me he has cash 
on the phone.


Fellow drives up in a minivan with a uhaul dolly.  Looks at the car, 
asks about the scrap alternator and starter to be tossed in, gives 
me cash once I light her off, and we put it on the dolly.  He drives 
off into the long settled sun.


I go to the computer and begin the prowl for my next victim.

Something simple, but big enough to haul hardware about.  Gump was 
great for that.


OR the SLC.  It has a large trunk, I do not care about the roof 
getting scuffed.





clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers


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[MBZ] Car Naming

2015-09-01 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
It had never occurred to me, but seems obvious in retrospect:

http://xkcd.com/1571/

I'm not sure how far back his name database went, there would be a lot more
Ds pre-facelift I suppose.

Best,
Tim
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