Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL
Seller pulled the auction. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1986-Mercedes-Benz-300 -SDL-Turbo-Diesel-6-Cylinder_W0QQitemZ4592666764QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem
Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL
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Re: [MBZ] come on, nobody wants these?
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:42:36 -0800 John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was MythBusters. I think it was a corvette. Left two (?) pigs in it for a few weeks (months). Had a professional cleaner specializing in issues of this nature (dead bodies, versus pigs) attempt to clean it. They removed all non-metalic objects from inside, washed it down with organic solvents. Hopeless. Finally sold car to fellow after video-taping various folks gasping at stench. Fellow wanted it for the drive train, commented on bad smell inside tho. End result was if something dead is left inside for a few weeks, then forget about salvaging it. A neighbor down the street went on travel for a couple of weeks and left his car at the local (dinky) airport with the window slightly down. Someone put a dead (squirrel or racoon) in it. He gave the car away. Craig
Re: [MBZ] ACC madness
On thursday I gave thanks for the existence of 30 watt pencil-tip soldering guns. I decided to tackle the loathsome ACC units in both my 123 and 124. Pulled the PBU from both and proceeded to do the touch-and-go on each circuit board. When it was over, the 123 performed flawlessly, while my 124 returned to its usual routine of Excellent! I've had (eventual) good luck in getting the VDO ACC's to work again. I'm really quite fond of them. Once they work. obstinately refusing to send vacuum to the footwell pod. The 123 had obvious signs of cold solder joints, but the 124 unit had a sticker claiming it was rebuilt, so I couldn't find too many outward signs of problems on the circuit board. I touched up a few joints just to say I did, plugging it in and crossing my fingers--nothing to be thankful for. Sometimes I've needed more than one 'treatment', and a good contact cleaning of the switches is part of it. Does anyone know if the 7 port vacuum manifold is the same between diesels and gassers, or between and amongst all the years of the 124 (and 201 or later 126) series? Anyone got a spare lying around? If I I'm sure that any of the things that can be made to fit physically will function well. I'd think they'd tend to be the same part, but of course I have no proof. can't easily fix this on the cheap, I might just wire in a spare overboost solenoid or other electro-mechanical vacuum solenoid to send vacuum to that infernal footwell pod in all circumstances except full defrost. You _are_ sure that the pod works, and doesn't have a microscopic leak? The footwell pod gets a vacuum restrictor in its line, so it is the most sensitive to the beginnings of a diaphragm tear. I can't remember if you've proven the system out already. (No leaks, voltage as req'd to the vacuum valve.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Aux heater pump
In a message dated 11/26/2005 7:50:56 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: During this time of year, heat into the passenger compartment is greatly needed. I found open windings on the auxiliary heat pump motor even though the voltage input was good at 12vdc. Can this pump be bypassed without risk to the heater core? Absolutely. The pump is quite restrictive when it is not running so I would recommend you remove it from the circuit. I used a high temperature plastic 90 elbow plastic fitting of the type you find in the hardware store for plumbing hot water in houses. I try to avoid copper as dissimilar metals can result in electrolyses, and the copper may migrate A seized aux hot water pump has been known to draw enough current to burn out the climate control amplifier so if it is bad, get it out of the circuit Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles
[MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
Anyone know the diameter of the lower rad hose on an '82 240d? My car has the l-o-n-g hose, if that helps. Yes, I am too lazy to pull one end off and measure. Thankee. Mac
Re: [MBZ] come on, nobody wants these?
When I worked for the truck rental agency, some construction guys ran over a racoon on the way into a site, did not think anything more about it. Truck then sat for five days in 95 deg temps. When they went to get into it again, let's just say it had to be towed in. Turned out the front half of Rocky (complete head was looking back at us when we pulled the wheel off) had lodged in the front area of the inner wheel well and had sort of rotted and baked. Truck stayed out of service for four days while we sprayed everything we could think of in there, a few times a day. Finally it was *just* fit to rent out, but on damp days it still had a stench like skunk until we got rid of it. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They removed all non-metalic objects from inside, washed it down with organic solvents. Hopeless. Finally sold car to fellow after video-taping various folks gasping at stench. Fellow wanted it for the drive train, commented on bad smell inside tho. End result was if something dead is left inside for a few weeks, then forget about salvaging it. A neighbor down the street went on travel for a couple of weeks and left his car at the local (dinky) airport with the window slightly down. Someone put a dead (squirrel or racoon) in it. He gave the car away.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Ike's Plane
Craig. Columbine II and Columbine III were Connies. Truman had a DC-6 called Independence and I think Ike used it, renaming it Columbine I until the Connie came on line See both items below. Take care, Chuck C-121E--A single VC-121E, 53-7885 was modified on the production line from a Navy R7V1 to be used as a special VIP plane. It was used by Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy. When the president was on board, it was called Air Force One. Ike named the plane Columbine III after the state flower of Colorado. While in the army, Eisenhower had two other Connies as personal transports, all named Columbine. Columbine III is at Air Force Museum and Columbine II is in Tucson AZ. and still may be flying. (C-121A 48-0614) Gen. Macarthur had a personal plane named Battan. (48-0613--N422NA) It is preserved in flying condition at Planes of Fame Museum. From a book titled Air Force One Truman was the first to fly routinely (his DC-6 was called Independence), and those who liked Ike will remember his Columbines I and II. It was during Eisenhower's presidency that the plane became known as Air Force One. On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, that was the name. I thought it was a Connie, though. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
Time for a block heater? How's the ole 240 running? Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d Anyone know the diameter of the lower rad hose on an '82 240d? My car has the l-o-n-g hose, if that helps. Yes, I am too lazy to pull one end off and measure. Thankee. Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal
I've got to get the 124 CDs, but till then - does the instrument cluster in the '90 124 just pull out like it does in the older chassis's ? I bent little hooks in the end of old wiper blade steel, inserted and pulled, resulting in straitghened ends. Felt like there might be a fastener holding it ??? I did find and adjust the vacuum modulator - moved the T 5 notches clockwise and got a nice smooth shift. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install
Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Do the Mercedes instructions and mine match even a little bit? Theirs are longer! ...and has pictures! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
[MBZ] OT older VW diesels
I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal
OK Don wrote: I've got to get the 124 CDs, but till then - does the instrument cluster in the '90 124 just pull out like it does in the older chassis's ? I bent little hooks in the end of old wiper blade steel, inserted and pulled, resulting in straitghened ends. Felt like there might be a fastener holding it ??? I did find and adjust the vacuum modulator - moved the T 5 notches clockwise and got a nice smooth shift. It all works the same way, but there is a clip along the top edge and the rubber sometimes almost vulcanize to the dash. Try inserting a spatula above the center and slide it from side to side and then try pulling with the hooks at the sides. From another list: Thanks to all the Listers who wrote that I just needed to use more force. You were all correct, and Marshall was most correct. I borrowed my wife's cake decorating spatula, a hefty 10x1.5, SS beauty, and discovered a spot in the top center area of the opening where I couldn't move the tool side-to-side. Put the tool against the obstruction, gave it a heavy whack with my hand, and it went in an additional few inches. The cluster was then free. There is a mangled, non standard looking metal tab, protruding down from the dash frame, that appears to have been bent down from the frame. Have no idea why. The cluster was free of the four spring clips. Thanks, Wray Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Blowby is blowby, so removing an oil cap on any engine should give you a cursory review of the relative level of blowby gases present in the crankcase at a given time. This car should return upward of 40mpg and may even exceed 50mpg if you're lucky. They're fairly nice cars, but certainly no Mercedes, by any stretch. An '82 Jetta should be a 1.6L w/solid lifters. I'm lazy, so I prefer the hydraulic lifters, which showed up in the '85 and later NA and turbo engines (Golf, Jetta and Quantum). On 11/26/05, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (206k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal
I don't think the stainless steel wiper blades insert is even remotely stiff enough to maintain shape while tugging on the cluster, which can be very difficult to pull. I made my own pullers be grinding off half of a (much stiffer) stainless bicycle spoke end, which can catch the cluster and not lose its integrity. On 11/26/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - Thanks! It all works the same way, but there is a clip along the top edge and the rubber sometimes almost vulcanize to the dash. Try inserting a spatula above the center and slide it from side to side and then try pulling with the hooks at the sides. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal
Ah ha! I can do that -- I made my own pullers be grinding off half of a (much stiffer) stainless bicycle spoke end, which can catch the cluster and not lose its integrity. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
They have machined disc of various thickness to determine clearance. I put over 500K on an 82 pickup and never changed the valve adjustment. I sold the truck for $1000 and still see it on the road now and then. I also had a 1978 and 1984 4-door and never touched the valves on those. Not nearly as many miles on these two. I got just over 40 MPG on the pickup and about 48 on the 84 sedan. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal
Zeitgeist wrote: I don't think the stainless steel wiper blades insert is even remotely stiff enough to maintain shape while tugging on the cluster, which can be very difficult to pull. I made my own pullers be grinding off half of a (much stiffer) stainless bicycle spoke end, which can catch the cluster and not lose its integrity. I just use thick coat hanger stock (1.5-2 mm). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] ACC madness
No, both the 124 and '86+ 126 ACC pushbutton (and cruise control amps) units have solder joint problems too. I've never seen a 201 ACC pushbutton unit do that, but my experience IS limited. When (if!) I ever get done with my generator rebuild, I'll let you know. The tranny transplant of the 190D 2.5 (auto to manual) is next on my list. I know its ACC unit is crapola, I'll let y'all know if it needs resoldering. Assuming the transplant works, of course. -- Jim
[MBZ] Multi list of cars
No singles for you to delete. This is a full list, so that you only have to stress your brain once to find the delete key. LT Don may want one, or Sunil, so bugger off if you do not have interest in finding a car. http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113780410.html --83 300D $3600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113774902.html --POS ford? http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113738186.html -87 sec $5k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113713031.html --74 Lotus Europa http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113673194.html --79 SLC $3500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113611967.html --73 280 $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113419886.html --Casey Car $300 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113370502.html --89 sel $4800 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113336386.html --300d seller on drugs http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113318987.html --190e 2.6 $2200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113325610.html --260e $1500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/113306332.html --80 300d $1k that is all we find this fine Thanksgiving weekend. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT - Ike's Plane
A friend of ours owns Chicago steel (the iron company, not the hockey team) he told me in the 50's he flew into Paris and there was a jet sitting at the hanger with a smashed cockpit roof and a missing engine. In those days you could wander over and ask folks what happens, so he did. Apparently it had hit a small aircraft on approach and sucked it's engine into the port engine which then blew up, then landed. The other competing jet aircraft of the era he wouldn't fly because it would as he said crash if it sucked in so much as a goose on takeoff. Alas I can't recall the two crafts and which where which. On 26-Nov-05, at 5:11 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Craig. Columbine II and Columbine III were Connies. Truman had a DC-6 called Independence and I think Ike used it, renaming it Columbine I until the Connie came on line See both items below. Take care, Chuck -- === John M. McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-800-477-2659 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===
Re: [MBZ] Multi list of cars
For the record, I prefer the multiple listing. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Multi list of cars
The one car that passed me by that I'm still kicking myself about was some kind of italian (?) convertible, I recall Alpina on the side, but web searches have not yielded anything that look like what I remember. It was about $1k at the U-Pull. Beautiful lines, and wasn't in bad shape. Cosmetically, at least. But I know zippo about italian convertibles, it could have been some heartless b*tch with a stiletto for a heart. Sure looked nice, though. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Built Ford Tough
Sure, I can see it now, you're zooming down the highway in the rain, cruise control on. Suddenly there's smoke because the wiper motor catches fire, you step on the brake but nothing happens because the retainer clip falls off, and the cruise control won't shut off,. As you drift into the shoulder towards that parked semi because the intermediate steering shaft yoke fails and as the right rear wheel spins by because the lug bolts fractured you wonder if your seatbelt anchorage or buckles actually will function as desired... Perhaps the airbag will go off, but no the battery cable shorts out just long enough before hand for the capacitors to bleed off the energy needed to fire them just isn't there. On 26-Nov-05, at 9:29 AM, tom savage wrote: Holy cow! If quality is job #1 at Ford, I shudder to contemplate the rankings of everything else. Mercedes for old cars, Toyota for new cars. Toyota for small to medium trucks, Mercedes for big trucks. Tom \ John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 154k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] Built Ford Tough
John you done good. On 11/26/05, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, I can see it now, you're zooming down the highway in the rain, cruise control on. Suddenly there's smoke because the wiper motor catches fire, you step on the brake but nothing happens because the retainer clip falls off, and the cruise control won't shut off,. As you drift into the shoulder towards that parked semi because the intermediate steering shaft yoke fails and as the right rear wheel spins by because the lug bolts fractured you wonder if your seatbelt anchorage or buckles actually will function as desired... Perhaps the airbag will go off, but no the battery cable shorts out just long enough before hand for the capacitors to bleed off the energy needed to fire them just isn't there. On 26-Nov-05, at 9:29 AM, tom savage wrote: Holy cow! If quality is job #1 at Ford, I shudder to contemplate the rankings of everything else. Mercedes for old cars, Toyota for new cars. Toyota for small to medium trucks, Mercedes for big trucks. Tom \ John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 154k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com
Re: [MBZ] Built Ford Tough
Actually what's humorous about all this is that my cousin was a VP of Ford Canada. I flew into a family event a few years back and had to rent a new (at the time) Ford Tarius Wagon He of course wanted to know how it drove etc, I replied Well I've a Mercedes 300TE should I tell you what I really think? He said no... My side of the family has never bought fords, always a sore point with him since we could have gotten them at way below dealer MSRP. Caddies (until GM destroyed that brand) then benzs. On 26-Nov-05, at 7:18 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: Sure, I can see it now, you're zooming down the highway in the rain, cruise control on. Suddenly there's smoke because the wiper motor catches fire, you step on the brake but nothing happens because the retainer clip falls off, and the cruise control won't shut off,. As you drift into the shoulder towards that parked semi because the intermediate steering shaft yoke fails and as the right rear wheel spins by because the lug bolts fractured you wonder if your seatbelt anchorage or buckles actually will function as desired... Perhaps the airbag will go off, but no the battery cable shorts out just long enough before hand for the capacitors to bleed off the energy needed to fire them just isn't there. John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 154k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] Multi list of cars
There was a Renault Alpina which was a great looking sports car. On 11/26/05, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Alpina is pretty much BMW nomenclature (very nice), but Alfetta ( of the Alfa Romeo ilk) is also quite nice. I tend to fall head over heels for just about any Alfa that shakes its groove thang in my general direction. On 11/26/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one car that passed me by that I'm still kicking myself about was some kind of italian (?) convertible, I recall Alpina on the side, but web searches have not yielded anything that look like what I remember. It was about $1k at the U-Pull. Beautiful lines, and wasn't in bad shape. Cosmetically, at least. But I know zippo about italian convertibles, it could have been some heartless b*tch with a stiletto for a heart. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
[MBZ] Thermostat
After driving for at least 35 minutes at various speeds, the temperature gauge does not reach the 80C mark. The outside temp. is approx. F 30. The heat coming out of the vents is warm, not very warm. Could this indicate the thermostat is working properly? Mike N.
Re: [MBZ] Thermostat
Assuming of course your temp sensor works, then it's an indication that the temostat is faulty. Which reminds me to ask, I'm sure the 90's 300TDt sits at 83ish C. Should it be more like 90C? or 85C? The 83 300TDt does btw sit at 90C On 26-Nov-05, at 8:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After driving for at least 35 minutes at various speeds, the temperature gauge does not reach the 80C mark. The outside temp. is approx. F 30. The heat coming out of the vents is warm, not very warm. Could this indicate the thermostat is working properly? Mike N. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] Global warming
there is a growing Atlatl hunting contingent. Not sure if Canada will pick up on this. I am sure not interested in hunting with a bunch of drunk spear chuckin' idiots. Had to get Fish and Wildlife approval here in WA recently to allow the idiots to hunt with a spear throwing stick. Next you will need approval to toss rocks at your upcoming dinner On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:53 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Coming home from the grocery store this morning (actually around noon) my wife counted 24 deer grazing beside the road on a minimalist golf course. This is in the city and within 2 miles of my home. It is getting silly. There are too bloody many of the things and fewer and fewer hunters here (in Canada). The government has made it more and more difficult to own or acquire firearms and the result is that many people have just given up. Now we just kill deer with our cars. Had a client in this afternoon who hit one inside the city limits on Thursday evening and did quite a number on his late model Honda Civic. Good thing he was alone and did not have anyone in the passenger seat. The deer's butt took out the passenger side window totally. The right side wing mirror ended up in the back seat and the passenger front seat is covered in broken glass and deer droppings. Windshield stayed intact but is very badly cracked all over. Will need a new passenger front fender, and front door. Back passenger door can likely be repaired. All this at about 60 to 70 kph. (about 40 - 45 mph). He never saw it at all before it hit him. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:32 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming In the 30's there were only 500 whitetail left in MO (approx). Now there's a gajillion. I think it was a conspiracy by the powerful auto body repair lobby...Pittsburgh Plate Glass probably funded the the project. :-) Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Global warming
If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw. Last week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall. Had an AK and side arm. There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying concealed. Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling the trigger. He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of severe brain damage. I suspect he had that prior to the bullets hitting. On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You wrote:He never saw it at all before it [the deer] hit him. Had the same thing happen in my 240D - was cruising at 55-60 and I saw a brown shape - then the shape was flying toward the side of the road and my sheetmetal had been customized by Bambi. Yeah, the gun situation is Canada is tragic. They're making self-defense a bad word - look at New Orleans to see the govt cannot *always* take care of us. 95% of the time the police arrive *after* the criminal has committed the crime left. With all the bad press the gun gets for hurting people, the press *never* talks about the huge number of times a gun prevents or stops a crime - often with never firing a shot. It's been estimated people use guns between 700k and 3 million times per year typically just by showing the presence of a gun is enough to make the bad guys go elsewhere. The Center for Disease Control did a study and found they could not prove all the gun law did any good, Not waiting periods, not background checks - none of the Brady Bill laws - could be shown to reduce crime. But in every state where concealed carry was permitted crime went down. But the press doesn't talk about non-exciting situations - saying 4 people were gunned down gets page one - someone lifted his shirt to show he had a 9mm there and frightened off 3 gang members doesn't rate a mention - no matter how many times it happens. I'm sincerely sorry about the registration scheme in place in Canada - it was supposed to cost 2 million and now it's over a Billion when they decided to stop counting the costs. ;-\ Sadly, the removal of guns from law abiding people in Canada will cost more lives than it saves. Sorry - I know many of you don't want to hear about such things. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming Coming home from the grocery store this morning (actually around noon) my wife counted 24 deer grazing beside the road on a minimalist golf course. This is in the city and within 2 miles of my home. It is getting silly. There are too bloody many of the things and fewer and fewer hunters here (in Canada). The government has made it more and more difficult to own or acquire firearms and the result is that many people have just given up. Now we just kill deer with our cars. Had a client in this afternoon who hit one inside the city limits on Thursday evening and did quite a number on his late model Honda Civic. Good thing he was alone and did not have anyone in the passenger seat. The deer's butt took out the passenger side window totally. The right side wing mirror ended up in the back seat and the passenger front seat is covered in broken glass and deer droppings. Windshield stayed intact but is very badly cracked all over. Will need a new passenger front fender, and front door. Back passenger door can likely be repaired. All this at about 60 to 70 kph. (about 40 - 45 mph). He never saw it at all before it hit him. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:32 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming In the 30's there were only 500 whitetail left in MO (approx). Now there's a gajillion. I think it was a conspiracy by the powerful auto body repair lobby...Pittsburgh Plate Glass probably funded the the project. :-) Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] update on gabriel, in case anyone cares
See banned for what he tried to post to biodiesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL
darn Steve MacSween wrote: Seller pulled the auction. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1986-Mercedes-Benz-300 -SDL-Turbo-Diesel-6-Cylinder_W0QQitemZ4592666764QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] French 911?
There was a Renault Alpina Alpine. Pronounced al-peen. Tail-heavy rear engine V-6 911 wannabe. RLE
Re: [MBZ] French 911?
psssttt, Roger: http://www.autocentrum.pl/oceny_aut/Renault_Alpina.html On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a Renault Alpina Alpine. Pronounced al-peen. Tail-heavy rear engine V-6 911 wannabe. RLE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] Thermostat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After driving for at least 35 minutes at various speeds, the temperature gauge does not reach the 80C mark. The outside temp. is approx. F 30. The heat coming out of the vents is warm, not very warm. Could this indicate the thermostat is working properly? Your temp gauge should read ~85 deg C (185 deg F) after 4-5 minutes of driving or the gauge OR the thermostat is bad. The thermostat is MUCH more likely. Thermostats were expected to be replaced every few anti-freeze changes (or ANY time the engine overheated for any reason) and are NOT expensive to replace. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install
Yeah, pretty close - the MB instructions spend time making sure *which* type of mount to use - with oval or round tube - then it's pretty much unbolt old, bolt in new. They do suggest following 00-220 but I don't have that one - it's supposed to be the procedure for tightening the adjustable bolt. So I'll play it by ear - Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install Do the Mercedes instructions and mine match even a little bit? On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to John for the Job # and to OK Don for the instructions. ;-) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pwr Steering fluids
Is there any way to flush out all the old p/s fluid and replace it with fresh Mobil 1 ATF .? reservoir draining replaces only a small amount, the pipes and box would still have old fluid contaminating the fresh fluid. mak - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pwr Steering Groaning Rich Thomas wrote: The last couple of weeks the PS on the 79 TD has been groaning a bit on turns. I changed fluid/filter 6-8 months ago, no problem then. Fluid level OK, no leaks I can see. It has been a bit cooler here (like 40s low a couple nights, but 70s-80s in the day) but it does not seem to be temp dependent -- does it when the car is warm in the daytime. What might be causing this? Several points. Are the belts tight? Have you torqued the steering box to chassis bolts? They are a required maintenance item every 60kmi or so. IS steering a little stiffer? If the ball joints rust up (it DOES HAPPEN) the steering pump may groan (and steering will seem a little stiff). If you use Mobil 1 ATF or Mercedes PS fluid, the car WILL steer easier than using conventional ATF (it gets MUCH stiffer when cold). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pwr Steering fluids
M.Affzaal.Khan wrote: Is there any way to flush out all the old p/s fluid and replace it with fresh Mobil 1 ATF .? reservoir draining replaces only a small amount, the pipes and box would still have old fluid contaminating the fresh fluid. On MOST Mercedes, draining the reservoir and refilling it changes about HALF the fluid. The total content of 123s PS system is 1.4 liters (0.6 liters on 124/201). What model and year car do you have that doesn't do that? YOU can of course loosen the low pressure line while pouring fresh fluid into the reservoir (you DON'T want it to go dry). I prefer to simply change what's in the reservoir every 10/20kmi. That results in about 90% being changed every 30-60kmi. Or you can change what's in the reservoir 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 days (so each batch of fresh is completely mixed with what's in there) and that will replace about 90%. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, pretty close - the MB instructions spend time making sure *which* type of mount to use - with oval or round tube - then it's pretty much unbolt old, bolt in new. They do suggest following 00-220 but I don't have that one - it's supposed to be the procedure for tightening the adjustable bolt. So I'll play it by ear - You don't need to HAVE 00-220 (it's 00-212) just go to the web sites that have the manual displayed. http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/615/00-212.pdf http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/w123CD2/Program/Engine/615/00-212.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
That reminds me of the following... SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? LIBERAL ANSWER: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor and oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Can we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my children? Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. CONSERVATIVE ANSWER: BANG! TEXAN ANSWER: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click(Sounds of reloading) Wife: Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids think? Son: Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too. BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click. Daughter: Nice group, Daddy! Where those the Winchester Silver Tips? -Original Message- From: redghost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:51 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw. Last week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall. Had an AK and side arm. There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying concealed. Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling the trigger. He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of severe brain damage. I suspect he had that prior to the bullets hitting. On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Pwr Steering fluids
I used the $2 oil sucker and jammed the suction hose way down in the pump, got out as much as I could, then refilled with ATF. Did that again a couple days later figuring that got most of the old out, mostly new in. After the second time it looked pretty clean a couple days later when I checked the level. --R Marshall Booth wrote: M.Affzaal.Khan wrote: Is there any way to flush out all the old p/s fluid and replace it with fresh Mobil 1 ATF .? reservoir draining replaces only a small amount, the pipes and box would still have old fluid contaminating the fresh fluid. On MOST Mercedes, draining the reservoir and refilling it changes about HALF the fluid. The total content of 123s PS system is 1.4 liters (0.6 liters on 124/201). What model and year car do you have that doesn't do that? YOU can of course loosen the low pressure line while pouring fresh fluid into the reservoir (you DON'T want it to go dry). I prefer to simply change what's in the reservoir every 10/20kmi. That results in about 90% being changed every 30-60kmi. Or you can change what's in the reservoir 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 days (so each batch of fresh is completely mixed with what's in there) and that will replace about 90%. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Multi list of cars
I think Alpina is pretty much BMW nomenclature (very nice), but Alfetta ( of the Alfa Romeo ilk) is also quite nice. I tend to fall head over heels for just about any Alfa that shakes its groove thang in my general direction. I think it was an Alfa. Sure was pretty. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Yes, it's a 1.6L NA engine. Now that I've got the big 03 Dodge Cummins, this little jetta is going to run around town and test out my biodiesel when I get my homebrew setup going. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time for a block heater? How's the ole 240 running? Mike Not bad considering, was starting fine then suddenly didn't want to when it turned about -12degC at night here. Odd, rule of thumb I have always gone by in this area (as told to me by an old-timer mercedes wrench) is that if they start in early to mid November, you are pretty good to go for the winter. This was like it fired up fairly easily one day, then was stone dead in the morning the next day after the temps dropped (and not by that much). I have a set of cleaned/rebuilt injectors ready to go into tomorrow. One or two are sticking and that doesn't help matters at all when they act up. I am wondering about the valve adjustment too. Other than that runs great, though I have to find where the oil leak is coming from. We're talking Exxon Valdez here. Once I do that I can put synthetic in, which it needs. So far: - tires - park/neutral switch - glow relay + glow plugs - 'fixed' hood opening problem (took a body hammer to the cowl leading edge) - shutoff diaphragm - brakes all around It will also get euro headlamps this week and I plan to switch over to steel wheels with hubcaps. I'm going to get pics up once I have the lights in, and when the roads clear up enough here so I can actually WASH the dang thing. Best used car value ever, Mike! (Knocking heavily on desk as I say that, mind.) Now I want a 300cd to keep it company. But before that I have to get the other 240d, the Texas car with the dead cylinder, back to life. cheers Mac
[MBZ] Issusions
I'm sincerely sorry about the registration scheme in place in Canada - it was supposed to cost 2 million and now it's over a Billion when they decided to stop counting the costs. ;-\ Sadly, the removal of guns from law abiding people in Canada will cost more lives than it saves. Sorry - I know many of you don't want to hear about such things. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) Larry - then there are those of us who were never that good of a mechanic, and/or can no longer do the work [heart condition limiting exertion in my case] but enjoy the knowledge given on MB issues to know our cars better. That part is fun, and does bring back a few memories. I, for one, also appreciate the thoughts on other topics that represent a different take on issues than is presented in the US [can't speak for elsewhere] where we have the illusion of a free press. One of my post-grad professors [from Kenya] held that our illusion was worse than the controlled press he had at home because he knew what had actually happened by reading the headlines - he knew the stories were 'fake' - where we have the illusion that everything is reported openly and fairly. That was about the time of the US blockade of ports in Venezuela because we thought they wanted too much for their oil. I believe it rated less than 2 on an interior page of the Indianapolis Star at the time and I never saw it on TV [didn't watch much, though]. I later asked many individuals [traveling around Indiana at the time doing public policy work] and couldn't find anyone who even knew about it. I signed onto the list when I returned to the MB fold after a few years of not having one - a '75 240D and four teenagers didn't mix well - but I guess I appreciate the other topics because I like the way MB owners think... BillR Jacksonville FL 904-707-0404 1962 220Sb RIP - died in a head-on in 1971 [but unlike the other driver, I didn't] 1975 140D somewhat overwhelmed by three teenagers and their friends [traded in on a van] 1981 300SD 'EM' 266K / @201K engine 2001 I30 'hers' 72k 1996 Sentra @255k @90k $175 engine - loaned to one of the kids, and probably needing a third engine [free labor is nice]
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and thats about the truth of it. Royce Engler wrote: That reminds me of the following... SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? LIBERAL ANSWER: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor and oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Can we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my children? Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. CONSERVATIVE ANSWER: BANG! TEXAN ANSWER: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click(Sounds of reloading) Wife: Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids think? Son: Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too. BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click. Daughter: Nice group, Daddy! Where those the Winchester Silver Tips? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Alfa
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:58:51 -0500 BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Alpina is pretty much BMW nomenclature (very nice), but Alfetta ( of the Alfa Romeo ilk) is also quite nice. I tend to fall head over heels for just about any Alfa that shakes its groove thang in my general direction. Casey - Yes, they are cute. I had a '62 Spider and a '70 GTV. IIRC when I sold the GTV it was because the upkeep was costing me more than payments on a new car [which had payments much more predictably spaced]. I had a '59 Spyder Veloce. It was a great car, too. I do remember working on it a lot. In fact, my senior year of college, I was a two car family, the '59 and a '64 Gran Turissimo. Sometimes both of them were down. I did learn a lot about cars when I completely rebuilt the engine of the '59, experience that has held me in good stead in the years since (like when I completely rebuilt the engine of the '69 Lotus Europa I owned when I was in the USAF). Cra
Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time for a block heater? How's the ole 240 running? Mike Not bad considering, was starting fine then suddenly didn't want to when it turned about -12degC at night here. Odd, rule of thumb I have always gone by in this area (as told to me by an old-timer mercedes wrench) is that if they start in early to mid November, you are pretty good to go for the winter. This was like it fired up fairly easily one day, then was stone dead in the morning the next day after the temps dropped (and not by that much). I have a set of cleaned/rebuilt injectors ready to go into tomorrow. One or two are sticking and that doesn't help matters at all when they act up. I am wondering about the valve adjustment too. Other than that runs great, though I have to find where the oil leak is coming from. We're talking Exxon Valdez here. Once I do that I can put synthetic in, which it needs. So far: - tires - park/neutral switch - glow relay + glow plugs - 'fixed' hood opening problem (took a body hammer to the cowl leading edge) - shutoff diaphragm - brakes all around It will also get euro headlamps this week and I plan to switch over to steel wheels with hubcaps. I'm going to get pics up once I have the lights in, and when the roads clear up enough here so I can actually WASH the dang thing. Best used car value ever, Mike! (Knocking heavily on desk as I say that, mind.) Now I want a 300cd to keep it company. But before that I have to get the other 240d, the Texas car with the dead cylinder, back to life. When were the valves checked/adjusted? That will prevent below freezing temp starting second only to bad preglow system! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install
OK Don wrote: Do the Mercedes instructions and mine match even a little bit? Marshall replied:Theirs are longer! And not as easy to understand!! Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 285K) - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install OK Don wrote: Do the Mercedes instructions and mine match even a little bit? Theirs are longer! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ACC madness
On 11/26/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You _are_ sure that the pod works, and doesn't have a microscopic leak? The footwell pod gets a vacuum restrictor in its line, so it is the most sensitive to the beginnings of a diaphragm tear. Last year I just split the supply line for vacuum to the 7 port manifold and sent it directly to the footwell pod (always on) -- the pod held vacuum just fine. I can't remember if you've proven the system out already. (No leaks, voltage as req'd to the vacuum valve.) No, I've been lazy so far and haven't done a stellar job of diagnostics yet. The cryptic references, unhelpful diagrams and wooden prose of the CD's repair procedures make my eyes glaze over... Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (206k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
Hilarious! Don't forget - the liberal would also ask: Was he abused as a child? Love the Texan response!! Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 285K) - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and thats about the truth of it. Royce Engler wrote: That reminds me of the following... SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? LIBERAL ANSWER: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor and oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Can we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my children? Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. CONSERVATIVE ANSWER: BANG! TEXAN ANSWER: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click(Sounds of reloading) Wife: Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids think? Son: Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too. BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click. Daughter: Nice group, Daddy! Where those the Winchester Silver Tips? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
you wrote:was starting fine then suddenly didn't want to when it
turned about -12degC at night here
I had a similar experience one cold Thanksgiving Eve - went to work after a
night with the block heater plugged in. Went to work and it sat in the cold
parking lot for about 4-5 hours. We were released early and I was anxious
to get home, so naturally the 240D declined to start. Would crank and try
to catch but never enough to stay running. Plugged it in and attached a
battery charger - after 3 hours of trying to start it I gave up.
Like yours, it had been starting and running fine, then one cold day, it
would start no more.
Turned out my pistons rings had gone far enough and when I disassembled
the engine I found 3 pistons with broken rings. The compression test showed
0-80 psi on 3 cylinders and 185 on the 4th.
I replaced everything in the engine including pistons, rings, sleeves and
water oil pumps, tc, tensioner, - basically everything except the crank
and block. Now, it starts instantly without the block heater in temps down
to 20F - which is as cold as it's gotten around here.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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- Original Message -
From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time for a block heater? How's the ole 240 running? Mike
Not bad considering, was starting fine then suddenly didn't want to when
it
turned about -12degC at night here. Odd, rule of thumb I have always gone
by
in this area (as told to me by an old-timer mercedes wrench) is that if
they
start in early to mid November, you are pretty good to go for the winter.
This was like it fired up fairly easily one day, then was stone dead in
the
morning the next day after the temps dropped (and not by that much).
I have a set of cleaned/rebuilt injectors ready to go into tomorrow. One
or
two are sticking and that doesn't help matters at all when they act up. I
am
wondering about the valve adjustment too.
Other than that runs great, though I have to find where the oil leak is
coming from. We're talking Exxon Valdez here. Once I do that I can put
synthetic in, which it needs.
So far:
- tires
- park/neutral switch
- glow relay + glow plugs
- 'fixed' hood opening problem (took a body hammer to the cowl leading
edge)
- shutoff diaphragm
- brakes all around
It will also get euro headlamps this week and I plan to switch over to
steel
wheels with hubcaps.
I'm going to get pics up once I have the lights in, and when the roads
clear
up enough here so I can actually WASH the dang thing.
Best used car value ever, Mike! (Knocking heavily on desk as I say that,
mind.)
Now I want a 300cd to keep it company. But before that I have to get the
other 240d, the Texas car with the dead cylinder, back to life.
cheers
Mac
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Re: [MBZ] Issusions
Hi BillR, Glad to hear how you enjoy the list! Sorry to hear about your heart condition - I suspect you would enjoy playing around in the engine if you were able. I'm also disabled with nerve damage in my feet legs - the symptom is extreme pain which we're trying to control with Morphine and Percocet. Anyway - speaking of Alfa's - we test drove one in 78 - a black GTV 2.5 IIRC - it's been a few years - and I still remember the wonderful exhaust note when I revved past 4000rpm. It made me wish there were a tunnel close by - we liked it but it was a little too small for our needs but we'll always remember how great it was to drive! Isn't it amazing that a country can produce cars that are similar in design and execution. Ferrari and Alfa are 2 very different companies but each has a similarity in execution - at least in my perception. Same for Porsche, VW and Mercedes - all very different but with similar driving experiences. I can see other similaries in cars made in the US as well as those made in UK. Do you agree? Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 285K) - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: [MBZ] Issusions I'm sincerely sorry about the registration scheme in place in Canada - it was supposed to cost 2 million and now it's over a Billion when they decided to stop counting the costs. ;-\ Sadly, the removal of guns from law abiding people in Canada will cost more lives than it saves. Sorry - I know many of you don't want to hear about such things. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) Larry - then there are those of us who were never that good of a mechanic, and/or can no longer do the work [heart condition limiting exertion in my case] but enjoy the knowledge given on MB issues to know our cars better. That part is fun, and does bring back a few memories. I, for one, also appreciate the thoughts on other topics that represent a different take on issues than is presented in the US [can't speak for elsewhere] where we have the illusion of a free press. One of my post-grad professors [from Kenya] held that our illusion was worse than the controlled press he had at home because he knew what had actually happened by reading the headlines - he knew the stories were 'fake' - where we have the illusion that everything is reported openly and fairly. That was about the time of the US blockade of ports in Venezuela because we thought they wanted too much for their oil. I believe it rated less than 2 on an interior page of the Indianapolis Star at the time and I never saw it on TV [didn't watch much, though]. I later asked many individuals [traveling around Indiana at the time doing public policy work] and couldn't find anyone who even knew about it. I signed onto the list when I returned to the MB fold after a few years of not having one - a '75 240D and four teenagers didn't mix well - but I guess I appreciate the other topics because I like the way MB owners think... BillR Jacksonville FL 904-707-0404 1962 220Sb RIP - died in a head-on in 1971 [but unlike the other driver, I didn't] 1975 140D somewhat overwhelmed by three teenagers and their friends [traded in on a van] 1981 300SD 'EM' 266K / @201K engine 2001 I30 'hers' 72k 1996 Sentra @255k @90k $175 engine - loaned to one of the kids, and probably needing a third engine [free labor is nice] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
My family has owned '82, '86, and '91 Jettas, and I have an '82 Vanagon with an '86 TD in it. Yes, the oil cap removal blowby test works. They switched from solid to hyd lifters in '86, so the '82 has solids. Of all we had, we liked the '86 the best. The earlier ones were pretty primitive and shaky, the '92 was more refined, but more cheaply built. The '86, for some reason, even though it had the same engine, was faster, quieter, got better mileage, and was more robustly constructed. Still, they're good, economical, reasonably rugged little cars. Pretty noisy on the highway, though, and really revved and screaming at 75. That's why I got rid of mine and got a 300SD. But arouind town, they're fun to drive, so long as you don't mind the leisurely acceleration, and get 40+ mpg. Watch for cracked heads--check the coolant bottle for oil residue. If they're some in there, you're due for a new head. Dan I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Alfa
'68 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce with a 2 liter fuelinjected (Bosch) motor in it. Sold it in the late 80's after ground-up restoration. What a rocket that was. Handled like a jetskie. On 11/27/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:58:51 -0500 BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Alpina is pretty much BMW nomenclature (very nice), but Alfetta ( of the Alfa Romeo ilk) is also quite nice. I tend to fall head over heels for just about any Alfa that shakes its groove thang in my general direction. Casey - Yes, they are cute. I had a '62 Spider and a '70 GTV. IIRC when I sold the GTV it was because the upkeep was costing me more than payments on a new car [which had payments much more predictably spaced]. I had a '59 Spyder Veloce. It was a great car, too. I do remember working on it a lot. In fact, my senior year of college, I was a two car family, the '59 and a '64 Gran Turissimo. Sometimes both of them were down. I did learn a lot about cars when I completely rebuilt the engine of the '59, experience that has held me in good stead in the years since (like when I completely rebuilt the engine of the '69 Lotus Europa I owned when I was in the USAF). Cra ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
It's an article about a proposal to levee an additional tax on hybrid vehicles because they burn less fuel pay less than their share if road tax. The article also proposes a per mile tax on all vehicles, which we already pay through our fuel tax. Both look like double taxtation to me. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:30 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cold starting OM61x engines (was) Skill testing question: 1982 240d
Mike Canfield wrote: Steve, The only reason I quit driving it was because it used nearly as much oil as it used fuelRunning my WVO blend offset the cost but eventually it just got to the point where I was sick of buying oil. I just figured it had 320K miles on it so it deserved to use oil..LOLOL Glad you are enjoying the ole GalI sure did and it was the best used car value for me as well.I drove it for over a year after buying it on E-Bay for $500 with no pics and the owners word that it would drive anywhere I wanted to get it home WITH his tags to send back. Several points about cold weather and starting. If compression is low, the engine will be hard to start or may not start at all. Dave Quay who used to run Atlanta-Stuttgart (the Tiffanys of Mercedes recyclers) used to say that once compression was below about 320 psi (22 bar), an engine could not be counted on to start reliably in cold weather. As temperature drops, staring becomes more difficult as leakage around rings and valves increases. This can be due to wear, or it can be due to carbon accumulation. A badly carboned engine will NOT seal and so will start poorly (or not at all) when the temperature drops, just like an engine that worn. If the carbon can be dissolved and burned out (Mobil synthetics can usually do it in 10-20kmi) the engine will often resume starting reliably in cold weather - IF NOT TOO WORN. NO oil will reverse wear! Valves USUALLY inhibit cold starting by a slightly different mechanism. The valves and the engine head are made from metals with VERY different coefficient of expansion/contraction with temperature. As the head assembly cools, it contracts more than the valves contract so at some point, the valve starts to hang open. When intake valves are properly adjusted (0.10 mm) they will not start to hang open until temperatures approach zero (F). If temperatures below zero are anticipated, the clearance should be increased to 0.15 mm to insure that the valve(s) don't hang open. Intake valves USUALLY end up with decreased clearance as they wear (I know, that's counterintuitive). When the valve are a little too tight, there will be some temperature at which they start to hang open. That will be an almost all or none affair. At one temp the engine will start fine and at a temperature only a degree or two lower it won't. This usually doesn't present a problem until temps drop below freezing. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Your mention of the compression ratio (23:1) made me wonder if the correct Compression can be calculated by multiplying the 23 X's 14.6 (normal atmospheric pressure) = 336psi ?? Or does that make *no* sense at all? Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels The engine in the old VW Jetta will be the Volvo/Renault/VW engine -- 23:1 compression ratio, prechamber, solid lifters -- the cam runs on top of the valves directly, acting on a steel disk in the bucket on top of the valve, just like Volvo gassers. They have a rotary distributor pump, and that is the only problem I've had. They are sensitive to low sulfur fuel, among other things. Drive gently until it's warmed up, since it has a cold start device that advanced the timing cold. Hard driving cold will wear out the upper cylinders. Otherwise, they tend to run about 200,000 miles between rebuilds. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] New CarFax Req
So lemme get this straight- in one paragraph, states no record of fleet/rental use; then in registration history, listed as a rental. FWIW, there are tons of these cars out there. Got sold on the cheap to rental fleets everywhere. Would be very VERY careful and find a good body shop to do a PPI. Tony Wirtel Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 2005 Infiniti G35 VIN JNKCV51E75M206355 Body Style Sedan 4 Door Country of Manufacture Japan Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description JNKCV51E75M206355 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 3 records for this 2005 INFINITI G35 . Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 2005-01-27 austin, TX registration event/renewal 2005-01-27 austin, TX titled or registered as a fleet/rental vehicle 2005-02-14 austin, TX 15 title Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 2005 Infiniti G35 No Consumer Guide? data available. Important Disclaimers While Consumer Guide? makes every effort to present complete and accurate information, a Consumer Guide? Vehicle History Report is not a guarantee of the quality of any used vehicle. There could be other problems with this vehicle that have not been reported to Consumer Guide? or Experian. Please read our full disclaimer. Customer Support If you need to contact Customer Service regarding your purchase of a Consumer Guide? Vehicle History Report call us at 1-888-257-8986, or email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remember to reference Order #1238964062.
[MBZ] 3 RD replacement starter ?
hi all yesterday i went i started my car and heard that skipping/starter sound( the starter is engaged, the teeth on the bendix (drive ARE fully engaged and not skipping /stripping on the flywheel ) the reason why i am writing ,is this has been happening for the last three years i replaced the starter originally ? replaced it last year ( bosch rebuilt) and am having the same problem now 1 year later oh this happens only when its cold out side... 20 deg or less the starter engages , skips engaged and starts the engine and when the car warms up all is fine. naturally i have checked the flywheel teeth 2 times now and its fine has any body had a starter with a armature that skips in side the bendix ...??? collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
try this one http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Fairly close -- standard new compression is 400+ psi, repair limit is about 300 psi. Actual compression as built is often as high as 26:1. Peter
[MBZ] Alfa
Isn't it amazing that a country can produce cars that are similar in design and execution. Ferrari and Alfa are 2 very different companies but each has a similarity in execution - at least in my perception. Same for Porsche, VW and Mercedes - all very different but with similar driving experiences. I can see other similaries in cars made in the US as well as those made in UK. Do you agree? Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 285K) My MB's have made me a believer in German engineering; Alfas in Italian design. And make that 'Spyder', not 'Spider'. It has been a few two many years and my brain seems to leak. I do well enough with the heart condition as long as I stay away from any exertion - sounds like what you are going through is worse. I am pain free unless I do too much. I loved driving both, but the GTV was best. At about 90 MPH [over a pre checked rural road with limited / no access] it would settle down on the road [much like my 300SD does all the time] and only common sense made you keep two hands on the wheel. 115 is as fast as I tried it as there were side roads coming up and I had no desire to become a hood ornament, but that was sweet. I could cruise the GTV in 5th gear at 75 - 80 MPH on the interstates and get 45 MPG. That was when gas was under $1/gal. If it had not been for the HIGH repair/parts costs I think I would still have it. Kept the girl, though. Also loved my '75 240D. Got a company car and the kids took it over. A sad thing ... BillR Jacksonville FL 904-737-2855 1981 300SD 'EM' 266k / 201k [?] engine 2001 I30 'hers' 72k miles 1996 Sentra 25?k miles / @120k engine
[MBZ] Alfa
'68 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce with a 2 liter fuelinjected (Bosch) motor in it. Sold it in the late 80's after ground-up restoration. What a rocket that was. Handled like a jetskie. On 11/27/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:58:51 -0500 BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Alpina is pretty much BMW nomenclature (very nice), but Alfetta ( of the Alfa Romeo ilk) is also quite nice. I tend to fall head over heels for just about any Alfa that shakes its groove thang in my general direction. Casey - Yes, they are cute. I had a '62 Spider and a '70 GTV. IIRC when I sold the GTV it was because the upkeep was costing me more than payments on a new car [which had payments much more predictably spaced]. I had a '59 Spyder Veloce. It was a great car, too. I do remember working on it a lot. In fact, my senior year of college, I was a two car family, the '59 and a '64 Gran Turissimo. Sometimes both of them were down. I did learn a lot about cars when I completely rebuilt the engine of the '59, experience that has held me in good stead in the years since (like when I completely rebuilt the engine of the '69 Lotus Europa I owned when I was in the USAF). Cra Craig - pretty sure I remember what that one looked like. I had thoughts of getting one of the bobtails, but a new wife and starting a family plus grad school made it a VW bug. Hail storm made that one look like a golf ball. Unless something really sweet comes along at a really good price I'm sticking to Mercedes. Love what I have, but could be tempted with an SDL. BillR Jacksonville FL 904-737-2855 1981 300SD 'EM' 266k / 201k [?] engine 2001 I30 'hers' 72k miles 1996 Sentra 25?k miles / @120k engine
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
Tom writes: It's an article about a proposal to levee an additional tax on hybrid vehicles because they burn less fuel pay less than their share if road tax. The article also proposes a per mile tax on all vehicles, which we already pay through our fuel tax. Your elected officials at work. This is the same administration that responded to the recent fuel shortage by releasing some of our strategic reserves and never asking us once to turn our thermostats down, carpool or combine trips. It's also the same administration that gives tax credits for buying hybrids, insulation and solar energy components. Wonder how they're going to tax my *bicycle*. Or maybe they'll give me a tax credit for buying my next one. Farging idiots. Lee 2001 Colnago C40 (and a bunch of others!)
Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turned out my pistons rings had gone far enough and when I disassembled the engine I found 3 pistons with broken rings. The compression test showed 0-80 psi on 3 cylinders and 185 on the 4th. Good LORD that car must have been slow, with those compression numbers. I hear what you're saying but based on the performance of this car otherwise (way beyond what I expected, coming from owning OM617s), I think it's a combination of an engine that *is* worn for sure, but also probably a valve adjustment issue. Plus at least one of the injectors has major issues. Give me a week and then I'll tell you all the final outcome (assuming it turns cold again by then... forecast is for an unseasonally mild week ahead). Mac
Re: [MBZ] ACC madness
Casey, The 7-port manifold is part number 124-800-07-78, about $100 (ouch) from Rusty. Those of you wondering what we're talking about, check out this photo: http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/O404573890OES.JPG The EPC seems to indicate that the same item is use on all W124's regardless of model year or powertrain. As to the probability of it being bad, or how to test it, I really don't know. I would think that it could be bench tested with a 12V supply and a MityVac but I've never had a need to (yet). Maybe Aaron could locat a used one from Pick-n-Pull for you? As a temp fix, your theory about plumbing in a manual trigger should work fine. Or just connect a T to the main vacuum feed line for the winter. Even on max defrost, I think the footwell flaps remain open (but I'd have to check the ACC manual to verify that.) :-) -dm -- Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:44:46 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC madness On 11/26/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You _are_ sure that the pod works, and doesn't have a microscopic leak? The footwell pod gets a vacuum restrictor in its line, so it is the most sensitive to the beginnings of a diaphragm tear. Last year I just split the supply line for vacuum to the 7 port manifold and sent it directly to the footwell pod (always on) -- the pod held vacuum just fine. I can't remember if you've proven the system out already. (No leaks, voltage as req'd to the vacuum valve.) No, I've been lazy so far and haven't done a stellar job of diagnostics yet. The cryptic references, unhelpful diagrams and wooden prose of the CD's repair procedures make my eyes glaze over... Casey Olympia, WA
Re: [MBZ] 3 RD replacement starter ?
Is it the starter turns motor, stops for a moment and then goes again? You know kind of like a injector leaked down and hydro locked cylinder for a moment? Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 3 RD replacement starter ? hi all yesterday i went i started my car and heard that skipping/starter sound( the starter is engaged, the teeth on the bendix (drive ARE fully engaged and not skipping /stripping on the flywheel ) the reason why i am writing ,is this has been happening for the last three years i replaced the starter originally ? replaced it last year ( bosch rebuilt) and am having the same problem now 1 year later oh this happens only when its cold out side... 20 deg or less the starter engages , skips engaged and starts the engine and when the car warms up all is fine. naturally i have checked the flywheel teeth 2 times now and its fine has any body had a starter with a armature that skips in side the bendix ...??? collins 1985 500 sec ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 3 RD replacement starter ?/shots in the dark
In a message dated 11/27/2005 10:46:32 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi all yesterday i went i started my car and heard that skipping/starter sound( the starter is engaged, the teeth on the bendix (drive ARE fully engaged and not skipping /stripping on the flywheel ) the reason why i am writing ,is this has been happening for the last three years i replaced the starter originally ? replaced it last year ( bosch rebuilt) and am having the same problem now 1 year later oh this happens only when its cold out side... 20 deg or less the starter engages , skips engaged and starts the engine and when the car warms up all is fine. naturally i have checked the flywheel teeth 2 times now and its fine has any body had a starter with a armature that skips in side the bendix Collins, Internal failure of the bendix would certainly be premature as you have not ed. If it has, I would wonder about your engines starting characteristics --does the engine rev real quick when it catches, do you have your foot on the gas, etc. Some gas engine cars purge the vapor recovery canister on start up and this added fuel can add to the starting speed of the engine. Over filling the gas tank can aggravate this condition. Also, loose crankshaft bolts could make the problem you describe. I would pry gently on the ring gear, fore and aft, to see if it is loose. Finally, the starter may be loaded with crud from an engine oil leak and that is enough to slow down the bendix action when cold. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Storing for Winter
John Peterson wrote: What is the best procedure for storing a diesel? Will the tires develop flat spots if I leave it parked 3 months in the garage this winter? Should I take the battery into the warm house or leave it in the cold garage with a trickle charger. John, The best thing you can do is bring it on down to Wichita and leave it in my garage. Your car will be treated luxuriously. It will be started and driven so as to keep the tires from wearing and to keep the battery charged. At the end of the winter it may have a few more miles on it, but what a small price to pay for keeping your diesel happy in the winter. I will clean up the McDonald wrappers before I return it to you. :-) Donald H. Snook 1990 Olds 98
Re: [MBZ] Skill testing question: 1982 240d
Hey, Mike, you explained the oil usage to me at the time and I don't doubt it's consuming its fair share in combustion, but I don't see how it can be burning what it's going through now (a quart per 2-3 days or so). The exhaust would be unreal. Now it DOES blast a lot of oil out when that one injector starts to missfire, but that phenomenon isn't unknown in older diesels and it goes away if you keep the idle high (right now I have to drive with the adjuster turned all the way up). From what I can tell it's leaking badly from where either the injection pump or the oil filter canister meets the block. It's one of those leaks that happens while you're driving, so it's harder to find. But I don't doubt I'll be checking the oil a LOT, even if/when I get this leak under control ;-). Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only reason I quit driving it was because it used nearly as much oil as it used fuelRunning my WVO blend offset the cost but eventually it just got to the point where I was sick of buying oil. I just figured it had 320K miles on it so it deserved to use oil..LOLOL
Re: [MBZ] Global warming
Alzheimer's is probably more mad cow than some brain degeneration on its own. I do not think that bison are omnivores, so should not have an issue unless you gave them some burgers or cow chow. On Sunday, November 27, 2005, at 12:14 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: OK Don wrote: Actually, I like the idea of bison running around. They are quite tasty! The ground meat makes great meatballs - the FSM would certainly approve. Ramen. Hmm. But can they catch mad cow? I've heard rumors that there are probably human cases in the U.S. that we don't know about, because coroners are refusing to autopsy patients that are suspected of having it. They're too afraid of the prions, which can't even be killed with an autoclave. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W48C1693C this may make it work The ongoing discussion in government to install monitors in your car so they can tax you by miles instead of fuel used since we are all getting fuel sipping cars or using old popcorn oil On Sunday, November 27, 2005, at 08:30 AM, Mike Canfield wrote: Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
I do believe the 82 1.6 diesel which was VW's 2nd generation diesel had hydraulic lifters and the small discs were called cam pucks. As for how many miles you can go 200,000 is conservative, its more like 300,000+ I had a 81 Rabbit and the cold start device as you mentioned were glow plugs so I would guess the 82 Jetta which had the same engine was equipped with one as well. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:03:12 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels The engine in the old VW Jetta will be the Volvo/Renault/VW engine -- 23:1 compression ratio, prechamber, solid lifters -- the cam runs on top of the valves directly, acting on a steel disk in the bucket on top of the valve, just like Volvo gassers. They have a rotary distributor pump, and that is the only problem I've had. They are sensitive to low sulfur fuel, among other things. Drive gently until it's warmed up, since it has a cold start device that advanced the timing cold. Hard driving cold will wear out the upper cylinders. Otherwise, they tend to run about 200,000 miles between rebuilds. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 280 SEL 4.5L ignition problem
Take a test light connect to positive battery terminal, connect other end to negative terminal of coil. Crank engine if test light flashes replace coil. If not check transistor module and or pick up. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Lewandowski Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:47 PM To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes mailing list; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 280 SEL 4.5L ignition problem Hi, thank you both for replying to my post. Still have the problem, let me go through what I have done: The distributer was recently replaced with a rebuilt one. This distributor is not exactly like the one that was taken out, the vacuum advance module looks a bit different, smaller, but otherwise it looks the same and fits, perhaps it is from a newer model? I have 12V on the wire to the positive terminal on the coil, when it is unhooked, attached the coil loads it down to 6V. Shorting the negative coil terminal to ground and cranking the car over yields 8.7V or something in that neighborhood. This is a test suggested by Petronix, they want at least 9V out of this test, though, the car was running with the Petronix with the other distributor, and I'm assuming this voltage is the same. My suspicion has something to do with the switchbox or transistor that the original 'green' wire from the points was connected to, this terminal has 12V on it normally it seams. When I hooked the black wire from the original points set up (with new distributor) there was still no spark. BTW I have also cut the condensor wire to take it out of the system, per some other info found on line. So now with either the Petronix, or the points I get no spark. I checked the coil: .6 ohm between pos neg terminals 10k ohm between pos-coil output, and negative-coil output, so the coil seems ok I guess. It seems that I'm not getting a switch to ground or whatever to trigger the charging system to fire. I had spark and the engine was running before replacing the distributor, but the timing was jumping around at least +- 5 degrees and the car would barely pull its own weight. This was with the Petronix installed. The distributor was replaced because of huge play, in the rotor, leading to the timing jitter. Could the transistor in this switchbox be bad or just not being triggered to ground so that the charging system never fires? Given that the ballast resistors wires lead down into this area, the system may never be seeing a trigger to fire if something is messed up in this switchbox area. I'm at a loss right now and would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Jim On 11/23/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: The Pertronix system will be much better than the original, but if you want to install the points, the black wire goes to the same place as the green one. It will serve as the trigger for the transistor switchbox to ground the coil. If you only have 6V to the coil, you have a wiring problem somewhere, you must have battery voltage at the coil, the switchbox grounds it, it doesn't supply the power. Note that on the original system (found only on the six cylinder models) the connections were different and power was pulled via the swtichbox. They are not interchangeable. I would personally go back to the Pertronix. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Jim Lewandowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dead pig in the car was: come on, nobody wants these?
Rich Thomas wrote: I read somewhere recently, or saw on some TV show, or maybe read it here, where someone stuck a dead pig in a car, left it there for some length of time, then attempted to get the stink from the car. After replacing the whole interior, washing down the bare metal, it still stunk. I forgot what the point of this exercise was, except to see what the effect was. It was an episode of one of my favorite shows Mythbusters. They wanted to explore the myth of the car that someone kills themselves in and then it can never be sold because the smell never goes away. It was quite disgusting. They put the pig in the car, then sealed every means of escape for the stench with tape and silicone then they put it into a semi trailer for some time (I think it was two weeks?). It was a pretty nice older Corvette. They had to replace the entire interior (wiring and everything) not for the smell, but because the fluid from the decaying pig had ruined everything. They got it down to bare metal and still no one would buy it because it still reeked. I guess the myth was true. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
[MBZ] Alfa Romeo
Anybody know anything about the newer Alfas? A friend of mine has WAY too many vehicles and two houses (and one wife telling him to pare it down). He may be selling the Alfa. It is a 1991 convertible with 60,000 miles. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
Never bring a knife to a gun fight Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:43 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming Texan answer for sure On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 09:47 PM, Royce Engler wrote: That reminds me of the following... SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? LIBERAL ANSWER: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor and oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Can we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my children? Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. CONSERVATIVE ANSWER: BANG! TEXAN ANSWER: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click(Sounds of reloading) Wife: Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids think? Son: Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too. BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click. Daughter: Nice group, Daddy! Where those the Winchester Silver Tips? -Original Message- From: redghost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:51 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw. Last week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall. Had an AK and side arm. There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying concealed. Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling the trigger. He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of severe brain damage. I suspect he had that prior to the bullets hitting. On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question
the bolt pattern of the wheels are the same, but the offset of the S500 wheels are 44mm and the E320 is 37mm. Chances are you would need a spacer to make it work 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Wakin's [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:03:06 -0500 Subject: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question Does anyone know if the wheels from a 2000 Mercedes S 500 will fit a 97 e320? Thanks Dave Wakin ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your mention of the compression ratio (23:1) made me wonder if the correct Compression can be calculated by multiplying the 23 X's 14.6 (normal atmospheric pressure) = 336psi ?? Or does that make *no* sense at all? That would all make sense IF the temperature of the compressed air didn't increase - and as the temp increases, so does the pressure. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 3 RD replacement starter ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all yesterday i went i started my car and heard that skipping/starter sound( the starter is engaged, the teeth on the bendix (drive ARE fully engaged and not skipping /stripping on the flywheel ) the reason why i am writing ,is this has been happening for the last three years i replaced the starter originally ? replaced it last year ( bosch rebuilt) and am having the same problem now 1 year later oh this happens only when its cold out side... 20 deg or less the starter engages , skips engaged and starts the engine and when the car warms up all is fine. naturally i have checked the flywheel teeth 2 times now and its fine has any body had a starter with a armature that skips in side the bendix ...??? I expect the ring gear is slipping when it's cold! It's simply shrunk onto the flywheel - and either your flywheel or ring gear has been damaged/stretched. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Global warming
He didn't take it home but it did not walk away either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:02 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming Did he get to take the beast's remains home? Or did it trot off? --R R A Bennell wrote: Coming home from the grocery store this morning (actually around noon) my wife counted 24 deer grazing beside the road on a minimalist golf course. This is in the city and within 2 miles of my home. It is getting silly. There are too bloody many of the things and fewer and fewer hunters here (in Canada). The government has made it more and more difficult to own or acquire firearms and the result is that many people have just given up. Now we just kill deer with our cars. Had a client in this afternoon who hit one inside the city limits on Thursday evening and did quite a number on his late model Honda Civic. Good thing he was alone and did not have anyone in the passenger seat. The deer's butt took out the passenger side window totally. The right side wing mirror ended up in the back seat and the passenger front seat is covered in broken glass and deer droppings. Windshield stayed intact but is very badly cracked all over. Will need a new passenger front fender, and front door. Back passenger door can likely be repaired. All this at about 60 to 70 kph. (about 40 - 45 mph). He never saw it at all before it hit him. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:32 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming In the 30's there were only 500 whitetail left in MO (approx). Now there's a gajillion. I think it was a conspiracy by the powerful auto body repair lobby...Pittsburgh Plate Glass probably funded the the project. :-) Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question
Thanks! Dave W - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question the bolt pattern of the wheels are the same, but the offset of the S500 wheels are 44mm and the E320 is 37mm. Chances are you would need a spacer to make it work 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Wakin's [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:03:06 -0500 Subject: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question Does anyone know if the wheels from a 2000 Mercedes S 500 will fit a 97 e320? Thanks Dave Wakin ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
Check out the following site. Randy http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 9:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:40:03 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the curious, I added a couple of pictures of the engine reinstallation process to the website. It's up to date as of yesterday's activities. http://cathey.dogear.com/genset.html Good pictures of the process! We even get to see what you look like! Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question
Wakin's wrote: Does anyone know if the wheels from a 2000 Mercedes S 500 will fit a 97 e320? Thanks If I recall correctly (and I might not) the wheels for a W140 use a larger lug bolt (with much higher torque setting) than is used on E class cars. If that's so, then the wheels can't be safely exchanged even if the bolt pattern is identical. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Quick Wheel Question
the 2000 is not a 140, it would be a 220 chassis. Marshall Booth wrote: Wakin's wrote: Does anyone know if the wheels from a 2000 Mercedes S 500 will fit a 97 e320? Thanks If I recall correctly (and I might not) the wheels for a W140 use a larger lug bolt (with much higher torque setting) than is used on E class cars. If that's so, then the wheels can't be safely exchanged even if the bolt pattern is identical. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Global warming/concealed carry
they're not for saying - Look at me, I;ve got a gun, you;d better
listen
Right. In MO that's a crime called brandishing. AND if the bad guy THEN
pulls out a gun and you shoot him in self-defense, YOU go
to jail for escalating the situation.
5 reasons to use deadly force:
1. Rape
2. Kidnap
3. Arson of an occupied building
4. trying to kill you
5. SERIOUS damage to life and limb (poking your eyeballs out)
Other than that, carry pepper spray or have a good right hook.
Also the issue of public places vs castle doctrine come into
play here. If you can run away, RUN. If you can't, then you are
justified (see above). In your house, you USUALLY are not required
to run (castle doctrine) - in SOME states you are required to run.
MO is very strange about this point. You can shoot people AS
they are breaking your door down, but NOT once inside, unless
one of the 5 above conditions exist. If they sit down to make
a ham sandwich after breaking your door down with crowbars, then
you just have to wait for 911...strange.
For 99% percent of instances, if you are not being raped, killed
or kidnapped, you cannot shoot and better keep your gun in your
pocket and run if you can.
Chris
Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep - my wife and I both have CCW permits and have
talked about that very
thing - we would never pull our weapons unless we were prepared to shoot -
they're not for saying - Look at me, I;ve got a gun, you;d better listen -
if the situation gets to the point that the gun comes out, especially if
confronting someone with a gun who has already fired on people - you gotta
be ready to shoot, not talk.
Too bad though - he wanted to help --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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- Original Message -
From: redghost
To: Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming
If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw. Last
week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall. Had an AK and
side arm. There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying
concealed. Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling
the trigger. He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of
severe brain damage. I suspect he had that prior to the bullets
hitting.
On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM,
wrote:
You wrote:
it at all before it [the deer] hit him.
Had the same thing happen in my 240D - was cruising at 55-60 and I saw
a
brown shape - then the shape was flying toward the side of the road
and my
sheetmetal had been customized by Bambi.
Yeah, the gun situation is Canada is tragic. They're making
self-defense
a bad word - look at New Orleans to see the govt cannot *always* take
care
of us. 95% of the time the police arrive *after* the criminal has
committed
the crime left. With all the bad press the gun gets for hurting
people,
the press *never* talks about the huge number of times a gun prevents
or
stops a crime - often with never firing a shot. It's been estimated
people
use guns between 700k and 3 million times per year typically just by
showing
the presence of a gun is enough to make the bad guys go elsewhere. The
Center for Disease Control did a study and found they could not prove
all
the gun law did any good, Not waiting periods, not background checks
- none
of the Brady Bill laws - could be shown to reduce crime. But in every
state where concealed carry was permitted crime went down. But the
press
doesn't talk about non-exciting situations - saying 4 people were
gunned
down gets page one - someone lifted his shirt to show he had a 9mm
there and
frightened off 3 gang members doesn't rate a mention - no matter how
many
times it happens.
I'm sincerely sorry about the registration scheme in place in Canada -
it
was supposed to cost 2 million and now it's over a Billion when they
decided
to stop counting the costs. ;-\ Sadly, the removal of guns from law
abiding people in Canada will cost more lives than it saves.
Sorry - I know many of you don't want to hear about such things.
Sincerely,
Larry T (78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: R A Bennell
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming
Coming home from the grocery store this morning (actually around
noon) my
wife counted 24 deer grazing beside the road on a minimalist golf
course.
This is in the city and within 2 miles of my home. It is getting
silly.
There are too bloody
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
During PP (personal protection) class, we did an excellent drill. Two people stand on the firing line. One person facing the target with their pistol sitting on a chair. THe second person stands next to them, but facing AWAY from the firing line. THe range officer yells GO and the person facing the target picks up the weapons and shoots...meanwhile the other person runs full speed in the other direction and STOPS when the shot is heard. THe point - you can make it 25 feet in that time frame. As a SWAT team acquantance said. If there is a man on the other side of the living room threatening you with a knife, you better shoot quick...and you might/probably still get stabbed. Chris Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That reminds me of the following... SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? LIBERAL ANSWER: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor and oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Can we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my children? Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. CONSERVATIVE ANSWER: BANG! TEXAN ANSWER: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click(Sounds of reloading) Wife: Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids think? Son: Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too. BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click. Daughter: Nice group, Daddy! Where those the Winchester Silver Tips? -Original Message- From: redghost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:51 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw. Last week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall. Had an AK and side arm. There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying concealed. Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling the trigger. He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of severe brain damage. I suspect he had that prior to the bullets hitting. On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM, wrote: ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 27 23:57:21 2005 Received: from tomts40.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.97] helo=tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EgWOX-0006vW-Ex for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:57:21 + Received: from [64.230.124.146] by tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:57:18 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:57:13 -0500 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [0] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alfa Romeo X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe:
Re: [MBZ] Cold starting OM61x engines (was) Skill testing question: 1982 240d
Marshall Booth wrote: Intake valves USUALLY end up with decreased clearance as they wear (I know, that's counterintuitive). Is this because the valve seats recess and/or pound into the head? The valves on my VWs always got tighter as they aged. The valves on my Honda didn't really change noticably over time.
