Re: [MBZ] Blinker weirdness
I didn't see the original post on this but if the relay hasn't been found yet it is behind the instrument cluster in with all the brown ground wires. I fixed mine by replacing a bad electrolytic capacitor. The larger one if I remember correctly. Barry Does anybody have an idea where the blinker relay is on an 82 300SD? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I really feel about Hylomar (was Losing cooland, somewhere)
Actually, I think it's pretty good stuff. -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: 11/19/2007 3:16:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing cooland, somewhere Come on Robert - tell us how you *really* feel about Hylomar!! Don't be so shy! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing cooland, somewhere I get Hylomar HPF in a small tube marketed by Permatex for some ungodly price like $14 at auto parts stores here. Blue stuff. Consistency of grease. A thin coating works great for any water or oil holding paper or cork gasket. Don't know about head gaskets. I understand the Brits invented it during WW II the big one to allow them to turn fighter aircraft around sooner by reducing maintenance time. It makes gaskets turn loose of flanges instead of turning to stone requiring hours of scraping. My son the drag racer has used Permatex No. 2 on the pan side and Hylomar HPF on the block side to allow pan drops at the track and replacement using the same gasket without damage. It's great stuff. Everyone should use it instead of that nasty stinking silicone. Plus it washes off your hands with with water. Let's hear it for Hylomar!! HYLOMAR, HYLOMAR, RAH, RAH, RAH ! TIGER ! BEAT THE HELL OUT OF SILICONE !! You all did fine. Thank you. --- Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:30:21 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere Scott Ritchey wrote: What about Hylomar? I've had good results with it. Does permatex still sell it in FLAPS for $5 or so? I found some on the net for something like $20 a tube. Mitch. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 380SE if anyone is interested
WDB CA32C9FA170135 Showing 259,373 miles. Seems to have been sold in Dallas. Appears to have had engine replaced with used 1983 engine (paint marks like wrecking yards use on engine). Tan seats pretty worn front and back Body looks straight - has dings. Looks rust free. I didn't look too hard for rust. Original paint has clear coat perishing like they do in Texas. Some kind of metallic metal color gold or silver like. Has spent a lot of time parked in the sun. Seats show it. Location Megahertz Motors (low end used car lot) Bryan Texas 979 822 3800. Starts/runs - he moves it around the lot. I have no idea how it drives out. Has had $1995 CASH on the windshield for months. I'll bet it would go for a lot less to a real cash buyer. You folks know. Is this a real POS or maybe a deal for someone? Not for me. I don't need no Daimler Benz V8. I got enough problems already. . Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns
I would think it would cost more to build a safer car. I dont see how it could be the same. Hendrik Fay wrote: So Mercedes cars cost the same to build/develop as a Chinese car? So why do they charge so much money for them? Guess it is all that extra money they have to pay the workers, I can't wait till they build MB's in China and then we can buy Mercs for under 10K. Peter Frederick wrote: Doesn't cost a cent more to manufacture a fairly safe car than a hunk of junk. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more on the dog front
yup, zoli, up happened yesterday and down this morning. you might wonder why i've already done stuff this morning. well, um, gsd insists the everyone is out of bed by 7AM. On Nov 21, 2007 12:55 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting - I see that Christopher has seen the same thing. My friend's GSD would not descend the stairs to the basement when we first moved into a rental house together. Just took a bit of time. I wouldn't push it too much. It'll happen. Brian Gary Hurst wrote: the GSD still won't walk up or down stairs, much to my annoyance ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 380SE if anyone is interested
Sounds like a $500 to me. Robert Bigham wrote: WDB CA32C9FA170135 Showing 259,373 miles. Seems to have been sold in Dallas. Appears to have had engine replaced with used 1983 engine (paint marks like wrecking yards use on engine). Tan seats pretty worn front and back Body looks straight - has dings. Looks rust free. I didn't look too hard for rust. Original paint has clear coat perishing like they do in Texas. Some kind of metallic metal color gold or silver like. Has spent a lot of time parked in the sun. Seats show it. Location Megahertz Motors (low end used car lot) Bryan Texas 979 822 3800. Starts/runs - he moves it around the lot. I have no idea how it drives out. Has had $1995 CASH on the windshield for months. I'll bet it would go for a lot less to a real cash buyer. You folks know. Is this a real POS or maybe a deal for someone? Not for me. I don't need no Daimler Benz V8. I got enough problems already. . Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Her car
John Freer wrote: Was just a plain ole' W140 6 cylinder taxi type. No way an 8,000 lb armored MB would be able to motivate around with only a 6 hole engine. It was so plain it was special; it was a stick shift. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] super simple circuit for a Tachometer
Gotta figure out how the gauge works, send it something it can use. --R Allan Streib wrote: Now how to modify it to put out a signal to drive the stock VDO dash gauge? Then we have a replacement for flaky tach amplifiers. Allan On Nov 20, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: With all the talk in the past about tachs for diesels this might be of interest to someone. --R http://www.davehylands.com/Electronics/Tachometer/ Here's a super simple circuit for a Tachometer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns
- Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] And don't forget, the Chinese car is nothing like a Benz, and they cheat terribly on both materials and exchange rate. One of the same quality would be much more expensive, just like high quality Chinese or Japanese machine tools. Peter --- Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for relatively complex machines. Has anyone had experience with their lathes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
the ruger .22 is far too fancy to be a 123 diesel. the 240D is more along the lines of my bolt action romanian training rifle .22, as good a gun as you will ever find for under 50 bucks. On Nov 20, 2007 11:10 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Ruger 10-22 is the 123 Diesel of the 22 rifle options. I am guessing the .44 variety that started the gun surprise thread is similar, perhaps a 280E twin cam 123 analog? At 09:52 AM 11/16/2007, you wrote: We should combine these threads by trying one on the other and see what happens. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wheels
Ditto-if there is another spare set out there after Loren gets the first set, I ma looking for a set, preferably in NE, Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 124 wheels Anybody have a set of 124 wheels for sale? Preferably a set with mounted winter tires. Since my blizzacks are worn out, I think I will use a 124 this winter. I only have a spare set for the 126, so I am in the market for a set of 124 wheels, original, aftermarket, or preferably steel, if anyone has such a thing. Loren Faeth 66 200D since 1972 66 200D 2.4 The Hawaiian (Son's) 80 240D 81 240D 85 380SL (daughter's) 87 300TD 87 300D 88 300TE 94 E320 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] machine tools
These are similar to Grizzly and HF and I think a couple other brands, the Chinese ones are all made in the same factories from what I can find out, slightly different features on some of them. Smithy might be a bit higher quality (and price) than the G and HF units, but similar. I have been thinking about these things (a lathe and a mill) for awhile, but don't have room right now. FWIW everyone says not to get the combo machine as it ends up being a PITA to use, better to get a separate lathe and mill. These machines are apparently OK for general hobby use but not quite up to precision-type work (which most people probably don't do anyway). The Grizzly's get bit higher marks on quality and support, HF a bit less. I have the Grizzly catalog and keep looking at the small lathe and mill... A buddy of mine bought a little mill and is converting it to CNC, he likes it and has a lot of fun with it. You will also spend quite a bit on tooling, this place has a lot of that, and similar machines too. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM --R archer wrote: Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for relatively complex machines. Has anyone had experience with their lathes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns
archer wrote: Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for relatively complex machines. Has anyone had experience with their lathes? No, but I've heard that Grizzly (spelling?) sells the same stuff cheaper. I've got a machinist friend in New England who told me several years ago to ask him what deal he could get before buying any Chinese machinery, but IIRC we were mostly talking about my driving out to his place and getting it loaded in my truck. Don't know if he could have it drop shipped, or if he still deals in machine tools. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] more wheels-Loren?
I found these on Boston Craigslist. http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/482458415.html Steel wiheels with hubcaps 15, 5 bolt. Width unknown. I have never seen these before but seller says they are from USA model. Anyway-Loren-are you interested in these? Anyone guess if they would fit a 124? I am looking for 15, 5 hole (or 8) hole alloys. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] super simple circuit for a Tachometer
Gotta figure out how the gauge works, send it something it can use. Now how to modify it to put out a signal to drive the stock VDO dash gauge? Then we have a replacement for flaky tach amplifiers. You'll spend a lot less time just fixing the stock circuit than you would replacing it. The stock's problems are almost always with the connectors in the can. If the magnetic pickup has a problem, just fix/replace it. It's the most reliable form of pickup there is. The gauge is standard, it just measures the frequency of the incoming pulse train. (Though it's calibrated for 1 pulse per rev on can-equipped cars. It's calibrated for 144/rev [?] on later ones that use a pickup on the ring gear and got rid of the can.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Her car
Pictures http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=485294in_page_id=1770ico=Homepageicl=TabModuleicc=picboxct=5 http://spmedia.canada.com/gallery/00posted/PROBE-DIANA2.jpg Blog on the subject (writer is a Saab fan) http://www.users.on.net/~grypen/saabdiana.html From what I can garner off the web, the car was a W140 S280 long wheelbase version. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
i don't think you can sell a gun on ebay On Nov 21, 2007 9:18 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother-in-law has two Stevens lever-action rifles made around 1900. One is a 22 cal. and the other is a Deer rifle. Both are in very good condition. Does anyone have an idea what these would be worth; say, on EBay? Thanks, Gerry - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] the ruger .22 is far too fancy to be a 123 diesel. the 240D is more along the lines of my bolt action romanian training rifle .22, as good a gun as you will ever find for under 50 bucks. On Nov 20, 2007 11:10 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Ruger 10-22 is the 123 Diesel of the 22 rifle options. I am guessing the .44 variety that started the gun surprise thread is similar, perhaps a 280E twin cam 123 analog? At 09:52 AM 11/16/2007, you wrote: We should combine these threads by trying one on the other and see what happens. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
My brother-in-law has two Stevens lever-action rifles made around 1900. One is a 22 cal. and the other is a Deer rifle. Both are in very good condition. Does anyone have an idea what these would be worth; say, on EBay? Thanks, Gerry - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] the ruger .22 is far too fancy to be a 123 diesel. the 240D is more along the lines of my bolt action romanian training rifle .22, as good a gun as you will ever find for under 50 bucks. On Nov 20, 2007 11:10 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Ruger 10-22 is the 123 Diesel of the 22 rifle options. I am guessing the .44 variety that started the gun surprise thread is similar, perhaps a 280E twin cam 123 analog? At 09:52 AM 11/16/2007, you wrote: We should combine these threads by trying one on the other and see what happens. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] machine tools
Thanks, Rich, just the kind of information I was looking for. Gerry -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are similar to Grizzly and HF and I think a couple other brands, the Chinese ones are all made in the same factories from what I can find out, slightly different features on some of them. Smithy might be a bit higher quality (and price) than the G and HF units, but similar. I have been thinking about these things (a lathe and a mill) for awhile, but don't have room right now. FWIW everyone says not to get the combo machine as it ends up being a PITA to use, better to get a separate lathe and mill. These machines are apparently OK for general hobby use but not quite up to precision-type work (which most people probably don't do anyway). The Grizzly's get bit higher marks on quality and support, HF a bit less. I have the Grizzly catalog and keep looking at the small lathe and mill... A buddy of mine bought a little mill and is converting it to CNC, he likes it and has a lot of fun with it. You will also spend quite a bit on tooling, this place has a lot of that, and similar machines too. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM --R archer wrote: Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for relatively complex machines. Has anyone had experience with their lathes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
archer wrote: My brother-in-law has two Stevens lever-action rifles made around 1900. One is a 22 cal. and the other is a Deer rifle. Both are in very good condition. Does anyone have an idea what these would be worth; say, on EBay? On eBay? $0. They banned firearms about ten years ago, and this year (after Virginia Tech) they banned functional gun parts. (accessories like scopes are still OK AFAIK, but barrels, magazines, etc are not). You might check out gunbroker.com and auctionarms.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] machine tools
Just another note -- Grizzly has some fairly small mills and lathes, there are quite a few groups that are really into these things, and they are not that expensive. Adding in some tooling, you can get a very nice setup of the smaller tools for $2k, and then down the line think about adding digital readouts and motors for CNC control. My buddy bought one of the smallest benchtop mills for like $500, and has outfitted it with the DROs and motors and CNC controller (which probably adds another $1000, maybe a bit less). These are nice units http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2007/Main/545, similar to a bunch of others, here is some info on CNCing it http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/X3-CNC/ http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0602 --R archer wrote: Thanks, Rich, just the kind of information I was looking for. Gerry -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are similar to Grizzly and HF and I think a couple other brands, the Chinese ones are all made in the same factories from what I can find out, slightly different features on some of them. Smithy might be a bit higher quality (and price) than the G and HF units, but similar. I have been thinking about these things (a lathe and a mill) for awhile, but don't have room right now. FWIW everyone says not to get the combo machine as it ends up being a PITA to use, better to get a separate lathe and mill. These machines are apparently OK for general hobby use but not quite up to precision-type work (which most people probably don't do anyway). The Grizzly's get bit higher marks on quality and support, HF a bit less. I have the Grizzly catalog and keep looking at the small lathe and mill... A buddy of mine bought a little mill and is converting it to CNC, he likes it and has a lot of fun with it. You will also spend quite a bit on tooling, this place has a lot of that, and similar machines too. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM --R archer wrote: Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for relatively complex machines. Has anyone had experience with their lathes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surpris
mine is all busted up from use. paid $29 for it. shoots as straight as any rifle i've ever owned and i shoot a lot of crap in it (like the primer only mexican stuff). set up to be a little practice AK, but with a cute little mauser bolt. even a dead mint one would probably be under 100 bucks if you could find one. On Nov 21, 2007 11:18 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except the 10/22 generally ships with the worlds uglyest stock Dad's got one of those training rifles too, his is Polish I think. We've got it stashed under a bed in the camp. Knocks the squirrels and groundhogs around pretty good even out to 100 yards. -Curt Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:21:07 -0500 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the ruger .22 is far too fancy to be a 123 diesel. the 240D is more along the lines of my bolt action romanian training rifle .22, as good a gun as you will ever find for under 50 bucks. - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
Except the 10/22 generally ships with the worlds uglyest stock Dad's got one of those training rifles too, his is Polish I think. We've got it stashed under a bed in the camp. Knocks the squirrels and groundhogs around pretty good even out to 100 yards. -Curt Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:21:07 -0500 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the ruger .22 is far too fancy to be a 123 diesel. the 240D is more along the lines of my bolt action romanian training rifle .22, as good a gun as you will ever find for under 50 bucks. - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For comparison Dad got a pre-'64 Winchester m94 (really nice, probably worth $800 on its own) a double barrel shotgun, a .357 pistol and a couple pellet guns from a kid he works with after the kid's Dad died. Paid something like $700 for the lot. A dealer had offered the kid (okay he's probably in his 30s) $500... Was his name Kaleb? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
You can't sell guns on eBay... Selling guns is alot about finding the right person at the right time. I don't think I've ever seen a lever action Stevens, I also don't think I've seen a Stevens deer rifle. They made ALOT of cheap .22s and some shotguns. I might be wrong though. If it were lets say an average Marlin or post-64 Winchester you'd be looking at a $400-$500 gun assuming good condition. Pre-'64 adds value but not a tremendous amount on an off brand like Stevens. For comparison Dad got a pre-'64 Winchester m94 (really nice, probably worth $800 on its own) a double barrel shotgun, a .357 pistol and a couple pellet guns from a kid he works with after the kid's Dad died. Paid something like $700 for the lot. A dealer had offered the kid(okay he's probably in his 30s) $500... -Curt Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:18:40 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My brother-in-law has two Stevens lever-action rifles made around 1900. One is a 22 cal. and the other is a Deer rifle. Both are in very good condition. Does anyone have an idea what these would be worth; say, on EBay? Thanks, Gerry - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] machine tools
I don't know exactly, the Chinese stuff has sloppy bearings and screws and stuff (sloppy being relative term to much higher priced machinery) so the pundits say, some users tune them up a bit but they are still not as good as the real stuff. Grizzly has a gun lathe or two in their catalog, they are BIG things and pricey. No idea how those are on precision. I see lathes and mills for auction here in Houston occasionally, they are big Bridgeport mills and some sorts of production machine shop lathes, I guess the guys who are really into it buy those if they have room. There are some other brands that are European or Taiwan or Japanese that are pricey and very good, you can get smaller machines, but you pay for that. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 21, 2007 5:41 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are similar to Grizzly and HF and I think a couple other brands, the Chinese ones are all made in the same factories from what I can find out, slightly different features on some of them. Smithy might be a bit higher quality (and price) than the G and HF units, but similar. I have been thinking about these things (a lathe and a mill) for awhile, but don't have room right now. FWIW everyone says not to get the combo machine as it ends up being a PITA to use, better to get a separate lathe and mill. These machines are apparently OK for general hobby use but not quite up to precision-type work (which most people probably don't do anyway). How precision is precision? Seems to me a lot of people would be in the market for a machine like that to do amateur gunsmithing work on. (I know I would.) Precision is critical there, or you might as well not bother. (Well, OK, not if you're making a Kalashnikov, but for anything else, thousandths of an inch matter.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] machine tools
On Nov 21, 2007 5:41 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are similar to Grizzly and HF and I think a couple other brands, the Chinese ones are all made in the same factories from what I can find out, slightly different features on some of them. Smithy might be a bit higher quality (and price) than the G and HF units, but similar. I have been thinking about these things (a lathe and a mill) for awhile, but don't have room right now. FWIW everyone says not to get the combo machine as it ends up being a PITA to use, better to get a separate lathe and mill. These machines are apparently OK for general hobby use but not quite up to precision-type work (which most people probably don't do anyway). How precision is precision? Seems to me a lot of people would be in the market for a machine like that to do amateur gunsmithing work on. (I know I would.) Precision is critical there, or you might as well not bother. (Well, OK, not if you're making a Kalashnikov, but for anything else, thousandths of an inch matter.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] super simple circuit for a Tachometer
The 'simplicity' of the circuit can be a bit deceiving. The optical pick up is straight forward enough. However it does use a small-embedded 8-bit microprocessor and a binary image (HEX) file to program it. Analog tachometers are easy enough to make from 555 timer IC-S. The print gauges at www.sherline.com are cool however .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] super simple circuit for a Tachometer With all the talk in the past about tachs for diesels this might be of interest to someone. http://www.davehylands.com/Electronics/Tachometer/ Here's a super simple circuit for a Tachometer. The circuit that's actually in the can isn't much more complex than that, and can be used to drive standard gasser-type tachometers. (One that can be recalibrated for the number of pulses per rev.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I really feel about Hylomar (was Losing cooland, somewhere)
I am also a believer in Hylomar, unfortunately Permatex no longer sells it. However it was made under license by Permatex and is still available but more pricey .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I really feel about Hylomar (was Losing cooland,somewhere) Actually, I think it's pretty good stuff. -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: 11/19/2007 3:16:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing cooland, somewhere Come on Robert - tell us how you *really* feel about Hylomar!! Don't be so shy! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing cooland, somewhere I get Hylomar HPF in a small tube marketed by Permatex for some ungodly price like $14 at auto parts stores here. Blue stuff. Consistency of grease. A thin coating works great for any water or oil holding paper or cork gasket. Don't know about head gaskets. I understand the Brits invented it during WW II the big one to allow them to turn fighter aircraft around sooner by reducing maintenance time. It makes gaskets turn loose of flanges instead of turning to stone requiring hours of scraping. My son the drag racer has used Permatex No. 2 on the pan side and Hylomar HPF on the block side to allow pan drops at the track and replacement using the same gasket without damage. It's great stuff. Everyone should use it instead of that nasty stinking silicone. Plus it washes off your hands with with water. Let's hear it for Hylomar!! HYLOMAR, HYLOMAR, RAH, RAH, RAH ! TIGER ! BEAT THE HELL OUT OF SILICONE !! You all did fine. Thank you. --- Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:30:21 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere Scott Ritchey wrote: What about Hylomar? I've had good results with it. Does permatex still sell it in FLAPS for $5 or so? I found some on the net for something like $20 a tube. Mitch. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
I see them on e-bay for like $35 - seems like they are pirated copies of the Mercedes CD sold for $100 - is that right? If not, is the stuff scanned from MB manuals? Are they good? ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to complete the job? Thanks! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, 123K, Projekt-Wagen 1 - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
If your scneario plays out then I guess LSU will by default be No. 1 and they will play Ohio State for all the marbles. On Nov 21, 2007 2:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Grease and French Pig Manure
S.F. restaurant grease finds new use San Francisco yesterday launched SFGreasecycle, a free program in which the city will pick up used cooking oil and grease from local restaurants, hotels and other commercial food preparation establishments and turn it into biodiesel. The program, sponsored by the city's Public Utilities Commission, aims to recycle grease products in homes with the intention of someday using the locally produced biodiesel to power all city vehicles. This is a case of taking what could be a bad situation and turning it into a win, said Susan Leal, general manager of the PUC. SFGreasecycle complements Mayor Gavin Newsom's mandate that all of the city's diesel vehicles use a diesel mixture that is 20 percent biodiesel by the end of this year (Charles Burress, San Francisco Chronicle, Nov. 20). Used cooking oil also a hot commodity in Portland, Ore. Restaurants that used to pay to have their used cooking oil picked up are now charging hefty fees as demand for biodiesel increases. Tyson Keever, co-founder of Sequential Pacific Biofuels, Oregon's largest biodiesel manufacturer, said about 20 percent of recycled cooking oil is now going to biofuels. In Portland, collectors are fighting over grease worth as much as $1.20 per gallon. Used cooking oil is the cheapest and most sustainable way to make biodiesel because it does not use any new resources, according to a new biofuels report by the Oregon Environmental Council. But because supply is limited -- each person in the state contributes about a gallon of used cooking oil a year to the grease market, according to Sequential Pacific -- the price is rising. It's going to drive the cost of biodiesel sky-high, said Loren Fennell, founder of the Alternative Energy Coalition, who collected used oil for years before quitting because of the increased competition (Libby Tucker, AP/Statesman Journal, Nov. 18). French pig manure project faces hurdles The French region of Le Mene is engaged in a $21.9 million biofuel project known as Geotexia that will convert 35,000 tons of pig manure and 40,000 tons of agricultural refuse each year. The project first converts manure into methane gas for Electricte de France SA, the country's biggest electricity company, and then into desiccated fertilizer. Dominique Rocaboy, a farmer in the region, is leading a 10-year crusade to use the area's large number of pigs -- and therefore manure -- into an asset. I am the first to admit that we have too many pigs and too much manure, he said. Drinking water in his town is unsafe for pregnant women and infants because of high levels of nitrate, caused by the pig waste. But the project has met with delays, partly because of France's bureaucracy and dependence on nuclear plants. Geotexia is part of a larger energy plan for Le Mene that includes a wood-burning heating system, a factory to turn rapeseed oil into tractor fuel and a windmill project (Celestine Bohlen, Bloomberg, Nov. 19). -- SG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 380SE if anyone is interested
Cars like that go for a few hundred here, not thousand. For that kind of money, you can get a 420 with better paint, interior and lower miles. Ed 300E On 21/11/2007, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a $500 to me. Robert Bigham wrote: WDB CA32C9FA170135 Showing 259,373 miles. Seems to have been sold in Dallas. Appears to have had engine replaced with used 1983 engine (paint marks like wrecking yards use on engine). Tan seats pretty worn front and back Body looks straight - has dings. Looks rust free. I didn't look too hard for rust. Original paint has clear coat perishing like they do in Texas. Some kind of metallic metal color gold or silver like. Has spent a lot of time parked in the sun. Seats show it. Location Megahertz Motors (low end used car lot) Bryan Texas 979 822 3800. Starts/runs - he moves it around the lot. I have no idea how it drives out. Has had $1995 CASH on the windshield for months. I'll bet it would go for a lot less to a real cash buyer. You folks know. Is this a real POS or maybe a deal for someone? Not for me. I don't need no Daimler Benz V8. I got enough problems already. . Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 380SE if anyone is interested
Cars like that go for a few hundred here, not thousand. For that kind of money, you can get a 420 with better paint, interior and lower miles. Ed 300E On 21/11/2007, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a $500 to me. Robert Bigham wrote: WDB CA32C9FA170135 Showing 259,373 miles. Seems to have been sold in Dallas. Appears to have had engine replaced with used 1983 engine (paint marks like wrecking yards use on engine). Tan seats pretty worn front and back Body looks straight - has dings. Looks rust free. I didn't look too hard for rust. Original paint has clear coat perishing like they do in Texas. Some kind of metallic metal color gold or silver like. Has spent a lot of time parked in the sun. Seats show it. Location Megahertz Motors (low end used car lot) Bryan Texas 979 822 3800. Starts/runs - he moves it around the lot. I have no idea how it drives out. Has had $1995 CASH on the windshield for months. I'll bet it would go for a lot less to a real cash buyer. You folks know. Is this a real POS or maybe a deal for someone? Not for me. I don't need no Daimler Benz V8. I got enough problems already. . Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns
Obviously it would cost more to build a current C class than a Hyundai. Both in development cost and cost of components. You can't just look at the actual cost of putting the machine together on an assembly line. The C class is full of near new technology while the Hyundai is a copy of technology from other manufacturers. Sure MB have to have a higher margin per car because of the amount of vehicles they sell. I did read how much money MB poured into the 204, something like 600 million (not sure if it was euros or $'s). Does Hyundai spend 600 million on developing one of their models? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would think it would cost more to build a safer car. I dont see how it could be the same. Hendrik Fay wrote: So Mercedes cars cost the same to build/develop as a Chinese car? So why do they charge so much money for them? Guess it is all that extra money they have to pay the workers, I can't wait till they build MB's in China and then we can buy Mercs for under 10K. Peter Frederick wrote: Doesn't cost a cent more to manufacture a fairly safe car than a hunk of junk. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
Many thanks to Mitch, Curt, Gary, and anyone I missed for information on Stevens rifes. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] machine tools
Grizzly seems to have a wider range of machine tools, accessories, etc. than Smithy, and since your friend has been satisfied with his Grizzly lathe, that's probably who I will order from. I ordered a Grizzly catalog. Thanks again, Rich. Gerry --- Just another note -- Grizzly has some fairly small mills and lathes, there are quite a few groups that are really into these things, and they are not that expensive. Adding in some tooling, you can get a very nice setup of the smaller tools for $2k, and then down the line think about adding digital readouts and motors for CNC control. My buddy bought one of the smallest benchtop mills for like $500, and has outfitted it with the DROs and motors and CNC controller (which probably adds another $1000, maybe a bit less). These are nice units http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2007/Main/545, similar to a bunch of others, here is some info on CNCing it http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/X3-CNC/ http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0602 --R archer wrote: Thanks, Rich, just the kind of information I was looking for. Gerry -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are similar to Grizzly and HF and I think a couple other brands, the Chinese ones are all made in the same factories from what I can find out, slightly different features on some of them. Smithy might be a bit higher quality (and price) than the G and HF units, but similar. I have been thinking about these things (a lathe and a mill) for awhile, but don't have room right now. FWIW everyone says not to get the combo machine as it ends up being a PITA to use, better to get a separate lathe and mill. These machines are apparently OK for general hobby use but not quite up to precision-type work (which most people probably don't do anyway). The Grizzly's get bit higher marks on quality and support, HF a bit less. I have the Grizzly catalog and keep looking at the small lathe and mill... A buddy of mine bought a little mill and is converting it to CNC, he likes it and has a lot of fun with it. You will also spend quite a bit on tooling, this place has a lot of that, and similar machines too. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM --R archer wrote: Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for relatively complex machines. Has anyone had experience with their lathes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
Hey Mitch - Thanks for those gun seller sites - I registered with Gunbroker after finding some Taurus PT111 magazines I had been looking for - And to top it off their FFL holders close to me have firing ranges I will be able to use. Only for pistol so I have to wait to fire my rifles but at least they're close enough to keep my pistol skills up. Happy Thanksgiving - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise archer wrote: My brother-in-law has two Stevens lever-action rifles made around 1900. One is a 22 cal. and the other is a Deer rifle. Both are in very good condition. Does anyone have an idea what these would be worth; say, on EBay? On eBay? $0. They banned firearms about ten years ago, and this year (after Virginia Tech) they banned functional gun parts. (accessories like scopes are still OK AFAIK, but barrels, magazines, etc are not). You might check out gunbroker.com and auctionarms.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 11/21/2007 10:01 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more wheels-Loren?
Thanks, I sent am email about those. He doesn't say how many, but I am guessing there are 2. I am looking for 4 for 124. Can anyone confirm if 201 and 124 wheels interchange? I think they do. You said you are looking for wheels. What chassis do you want wheels for? Unfortunately, the 126 and 124 wheels do not interchange. I have extra 126 15 hole OE 15 wheels. I was not trying to sell them until I determine if I will ever be driving a 126 in the winter again, but if you need em, I could be convinced to part with em. Loren At 07:59 AM 11/21/2007, you wrote: I found these on Boston Craigslist. http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/482458415.html Steel wiheels with hubcaps 15, 5 bolt. Width unknown. I have never seen these before but seller says they are from USA model. Anyway-Loren-are you interested in these? Anyone guess if they would fit a 124? I am looking for 15, 5 hole (or 8) hole alloys. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise
Wow! where are you? I think I should bring some rifles out there to sell. I bought a nice Marlin 3030 lever for $250, and thought that was a lot! At 10:24 AM 11/21/2007, you wrote: You can't sell guns on eBay... Selling guns is alot about finding the right person at the right time. I don't think I've ever seen a lever action Stevens, I also don't think I've seen a Stevens deer rifle. They made ALOT of cheap .22s and some shotguns. I might be wrong though. If it were lets say an average Marlin or post-64 Winchester you'd be looking at a $400-$500 gun assuming good condition. Pre-'64 adds value but not a tremendous amount on an off brand like Stevens. For comparison Dad got a pre-'64 Winchester m94 (really nice, probably worth $800 on its own) a double barrel shotgun, a .357 pistol and a couple pellet guns from a kid he works with after the kid's Dad died. Paid something like $700 for the lot. A dealer had offered the kid(okay he's probably in his 30s) $500... -Curt Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:18:40 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My brother-in-law has two Stevens lever-action rifles made around 1900. One is a 22 cal. and the other is a Deer rifle. Both are in very good condition. Does anyone have an idea what these would be worth; say, on EBay? Thanks, Gerry - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
Default banned response. On Nov 21, 2007 1:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bowlprojections12 On Nov 21, 2007 2:52 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your scneario plays out then I guess LSU will by default be No. 1 and they will play Ohio State for all the marbles. On Nov 21, 2007 2:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
I see them on e-bay for like $35 - seems like they are pirated copies of the Mercedes CD sold for $100 - is that right? If not, is the stuff scanned from MB manuals? Are they good? I had purchased the correct manuals for my 123 on EBay. I bought a cheap one for the 201 on EBay and it ended up being a Mitchell repair CD. I ended up buying one from MBUSA for 60 or so bucks. ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to complete the job? Not in any that I have. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
The original CDs from MB are scanned copies of the paper manuals - at least the one's I have. Yes - most of the one's on eBay are copies of the MB manuals. ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to complete the job? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA uh, no. Ask here. On Nov 21, 2007 1:51 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see them on e-bay for like $35 - seems like they are pirated copies of the Mercedes CD sold for $100 - is that right? If not, is the stuff scanned from MB manuals? Are they good? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
On Nov 21, 2007, at 6:34 PM, OK Don wrote: The original CDs from MB are scanned copies of the paper manuals - at least the one's I have. Yes - most of the one's on eBay are copies of the MB manuals. A friend of mine bought some and the quality was subnormal. He brought them by to try various CDROM readers I had to see if we could read them. One drive did, so he was happy. Obviously the cheapest drives and media is used I'd expect. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Her last ride
Was just a plain ole' W140 6 cylinder taxi type. No way an 8,000 lb armored MB would be able to motivate around with only a 6 hole engine. A three year old 1994 140.032 S280 (3.2 M104 228hp) without ESP or side bags, as a matter of fact. ESP might have made a difference but didn't appear until '96 models. RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbags Was: Auntie
Some part of the activation mechanism was made in Tempe I think about 10-15 years ago. They were frequently in the news because of horrible workplace accidents and several fatalities because of poor safety practices. Pretty nasty stuff I suppose. I think it's been closed down. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Airbags Was: Auntie The activation device for airbags is essentially a blank shotgun shell. One company makes them in a leased part of the Iowa Army Ammunition Plant. They need the explosion-proof facility for manufacturing. It is a little more technical than a shotgun shell, but the charge is of similar size/energy to a 12 ga shell. At 10:31 PM 11/20/2007, you wrote: Hi Guys, We had a Safety Tech Event on Saturday at MB Motors in Phoenix. Bud Cloninger, owner, did a very good presentation on all the safety features on MB's. He stripped a W124 to show what the frame looks like. Then, he demonstrated the airbags, first activating the driver side. Then the passenger side. He passed out earplugs beforehand. Never knew that airbags sound like a shotgun when deployed. Deployment of an airbag is a very violent action. Airbags can hurt, but more often they will save lives. Always make sure all occupants have their seatbelts connected (I know I'm talking to the choir) and NEVER, EVER smoke a pipe while driving! Take care and Happy Thanksgiving to all.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 20, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Robert Rentfro wrote: Peter typed: I don't intend to EVER have another accident I remember, back in the day, Mr. Reinholt in the behind the book portion of driver's ed would tell us that there is no such thing as an 'accident' because someone is always at fault...they are 'collisions' The roads are full of idiots. At least we have an advantage because we are protected better form the idiots. Bob R. Rolling safely in a thirty year old car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
Don, that's a nice fantasy but it ain't gonna happen. On Nov 21, 2007 8:34 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bowlprojections12 On Nov 21, 2007 2:52 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your scneario plays out then I guess LSU will by default be No. 1 and they will play Ohio State for all the marbles. On Nov 21, 2007 2:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more wheels-Loren?
OK_I was thinking he might have 4. I need 124 wheels- manual says 15 x 6 1/2 ET 49. I think 15 x 7's will fit fine with smaller offset sat 44. Thanks for you offer to part with 126 wheels. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] more wheels-Loren? Thanks, I sent am email about those. He doesn't say how many, but I am guessing there are 2. I am looking for 4 for 124. Can anyone confirm if 201 and 124 wheels interchange? I think they do. You said you are looking for wheels. What chassis do you want wheels for? Unfortunately, the 126 and 124 wheels do not interchange. I have extra 126 15 hole OE 15 wheels. I was not trying to sell them until I determine if I will ever be driving a 126 in the winter again, but if you need em, I could be convinced to part with em. mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
My fantasy is way more a redhead (and my wife). :-) D. On 11/21/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, that's a nice fantasy but it ain't gonna happen. On Nov 21, 2007 8:34 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bowlprojections12 On Nov 21, 2007 2:52 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your scneario plays out then I guess LSU will by default be No. 1 and they will play Ohio State for all the marbles. On Nov 21, 2007 2:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
The paper manuals have the best image quality, at least for the older cars. But the older CDs are very reasonable (like $20) from http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/index.do under Classic Center, Technical Literature. Maybe even cheaper than pirated copies for some models. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 14:51 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals I see them on e-bay for like $35 - seems like they are pirated copies of the Mercedes CD sold for $100 - is that right? If not, is the stuff scanned from MB manuals? Are they good? ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to complete the job? Thanks! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, 123K, Projekt-Wagen 1 - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
Most folks just ask a friend to loan them a CD. Me? I have W123 and W124 verions. Yes, that is a hint. D. On 11/21/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see them on e-bay for like $35 - seems like they are pirated copies of the Mercedes CD sold for $100 - is that right? If not, is the stuff scanned from MB manuals? Are they good? ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to complete the job? Thanks! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, 123K, Projekt-Wagen 1 - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more wheels-Loren?
Friendly Local Independent Tire Dealer (FLITD) says they can order steel wheels. I may order new Blizzaks and go that route. Tire rack has cheapo alloys for $80 each. That is probably second best. Only problem with steel wheels is that 15 MB hubcaps are as rare or more rare than 15 steel factory wheels in the US. And I need two sets of lug bolts. Good thing is I have a pretty good stock of steel wheel lug bolts. The 600$$$ is the only model that came to the US on 15 steel that I know of. Pricing some new Steel wheels locally may be the way to go. I am thinking they should be $35 or so each. Won't find out until Friday or next week. I did find the earlier message where you said you needed 124 wheels also. Wonder what a 110 would look like on 15 hole 126 wheels. Probably real strange. At 09:34 PM 11/21/2007, you wrote: OK_I was thinking he might have 4. I need 124 wheels- manual says 15 x 6 1/2 ET 49. I think 15 x 7's will fit fine with smaller offset sat 44. Thanks for you offer to part with 126 wheels. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] more wheels-Loren? Thanks, I sent am email about those. He doesn't say how many, but I am guessing there are 2. I am looking for 4 for 124. Can anyone confirm if 201 and 124 wheels interchange? I think they do. You said you are looking for wheels. What chassis do you want wheels for? Unfortunately, the 126 and 124 wheels do not interchange. I have extra 126 15 hole OE 15 wheels. I was not trying to sell them until I determine if I will ever be driving a 126 in the winter again, but if you need em, I could be convinced to part with em. mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *DIRECT* 123 driveshaft center bearing and mount FS
It seems than at Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:38:52 -0500, wilton wrote: About 4 yrs ago, when my 81 300D (123) had a low roar/moan at cruise, I purchased driveshaft center bearing and mount for it, but before I could install them, I sold the car. 'Forgot to pass them along to buyer. The part #'s: Bearing - 981 003-981-2325 Mount - 410 123-410-1081 by Bilstein Both still in orig wrapper/box. They cost me ~ $40 plus shipping. I'll sacrifice them for $15 plus $10 shipping. 'A pity to throw these brand new items in the trash. Seeing as I have a few W123s, I will be able to use those - probably sooner rather than later. So put my name on them, if they are still available. I'll mail you a check (or money order, if you'd rather) as soon as you tell me what address to mail it to. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel prices here in Los Alamos
Coming home this evening, I noticed that regular gas jumped 4 cents from $3.059 to $3.099 and that diesel jumped 14 cents from $3.409 to $3.549. With that, I'd be better off driving a gas car that got better than 20 mpg than our diesel. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Turkey Day
Happy Turkey Day everyone. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Will 617 and 603 operate at compression of 15 bar
Good point Mitch , sorry have been away for a while. The guage has the check valve at the instrument end of a pipe about a foot long. I have a revcently overhauled engine to try my hands on and check it out. Peter -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2007 14:34 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will 617 and 603 operate at compression of 15 bar Peter Merle wrote: Hi, yes starting hot is not that great. Strange that it doesn ot use oil ( my two 617's used a lot of oil before compression dropped to low levels) and the fact that the pressures are even all round. Makes me wonder if the gauge has too much air volume between the check valve and the combustion chamber, thereby lowering the compression ratio. Do you have a known good mbz diesel handy to try the gauge on? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices here in Los Alamos
on 11/22/07 12:44 AM, Craig McCluskey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming home this evening, I noticed that regular gas jumped 4 cents from $3.059 to $3.099 and that diesel jumped 14 cents from $3.409 to $3.549. With that, I'd be better off driving a gas car that got better than 20 mpg than our diesel. Craig *** I've been thinking the same. As the Camry gets 32+ and is well under mileage on lease which will soon be up, I'm thinking of taking the winter to have some cosmetic work done on my daily 123. At 322K it's due for a little pampering and TLC. I'm still debating to run one of the cars with a WVO conversion next summer. What'll probably happen is I sell the '84 to finance the work on the others. By the time spring returns and the lease is up on the Camry I hope to have all three '85s taking their turns. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
