Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread harry watkins
You made my day Jim, I got up to 64* this morning, upset a little because of 
the chill and read your piece.  I feel good now and can face the 80s later 
in the day without a pity party, even though I'll have to dig out a sweater.


Thanks
Harry



Date night!  We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel
while Jill and I went to band practice.  The weather was bad, and
predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut
short.  We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard
conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to
avoid.  (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a
marginally better alternate route.)  We were going OK even though
visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to
wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a
stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were
forced to ourselves stop...and join the party.  The car kept us warm,
and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled
winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered
radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped.  After an hour
and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could
get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others
out.  In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were
so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both
our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind,
rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge
for the night with nearby friends.  By then it had gotten so cold and
windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I
had to drive with my head out the opened door.  That added to the fun,
and resulted in a rather snowy interior.  And there were still drifts
to deal with that way, too.  But we got through and parked out on the
street.

In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I
couldn't even begin to start it.  I had the space heater, though, and
I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip
for an hour or so.  That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start
the car, whereupon we went home.  That trip, in the light and with no
wind, was uneventful.  Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back
some.

The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit
too much from it.  The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still
worked well.  Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been
a bit of a hairy trip.  As it was, it was an Event.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thanks for sharing that link - I learned that there is an inverse
relationship between the number of pirates and the global average
temperature (number of pirates is in steady decline, temperature is
increasing, ergo the solution is more pirates). 

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

As in - http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ ???

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

 . I'll stick to the FSM...

OK Don
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[MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
124 Fans,
 
Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
to be slightly larger than the old.
 
Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.
 
Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
of a pipe).
 
When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.
 
-Max
Very respectfully, 
/s/ 
Max Dillon 
'87 300TD 332k miles 
'95 E300 275k miles (project) 
'73 Balboa 20 
Charleston SC 


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 60, Issue 101

2010-11-24 Thread Shelnard

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1. Re: OT  Need computer help (Dieselhead)
2. Re: OT Need computer help  (Russ Williams)
3. Re: OT Need computer help (Walt  Zarnoch)
4. Re: OT Need computer help (harry  watkins)
5. Re: Clutch bleed procedure? (Jim  Cathey)
6. Frankenheapery (Jim Cathey)
7. Re:  Frankenheapery (Walt Zarnoch)
8. Re: Frankenheapery (harry  watkins)


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Message:  1
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:33:26 -0600
From: Dieselhead  126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List  mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Need computer  help
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Harry,

No need to wait 3  days.  go to this  website:

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/tp/passrecovery.htm

It  lists 10 password decrypters or resetters.

I use # 2 but it looks like  #3 is easier to use.  Both 2 and 3 reset 
the password to  Meaning put nothing in the password line or 
no  password.  After that is done, you can set the password to 
whatever  you like.

If you don't need anything on the computer now, I'd suggest a  clean 
install of XP Pro if you have it.  Or a clean install of  anything. 
THat should eliminate whatever garbage the employees put on  it.

HTH



Loginrecovery.com can help, all you need to  do is follow their 
instructions
and wait ~ 3 days for them to get the  pass decrypted.

Walt
On Nov 23, 2010 11:06 PM, harry  watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  I have an  Emachine with Vista Home and I need a way to get around the
password on  the first page.

  This came with the stuff when I  bought everything but the real-estate 
from
a closed golf course. The PO  and one of the counter workers have given me
everything they can think  of but nothing has worked.

  It comes up with the  username displayed and has a blank for the  
password.

  Any  ideas?

  Thanks
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:34:53 -0600
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Harry,

Go here  http://www.pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/  Read the  instructions.
Download Offline NT Password  Registry Editor. Burn a cd  from the ISO.

I've used it on a number of Vista systems that the owners  have forgotten
their passwords.

Russ W.

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Sent:  Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:06 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT Need computer help



I have an Emachine  with Vista Home and I need a way to get around the
password on the first  page. 

This came with the stuff when I bought everything but the  real-estate from 
a
closed golf course.  The PO and one of the counter  workers have given me
everything they can think of but nothing has  worked.

It comes up with the username displayed and has a blank for the  password.

Any  ideas?

Thanks
Harry
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:11:00 -0500
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[MBZ] Pirates, WAS:Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
That data is old.  The somali moslems have been churning out pirates 
at increasing rates.  Global warming is dead.  The made up data has 
been exposed.  Even Albore has gone into hiding, although he still is 
such a dim bulb that he doesn't realize he has been a big player in a 
hoax.  Albore just doesn't like getting pelted with frozen eggs and 
frozen tomatoes and blizzards whenever he appears.


Why do you think so many in the media got all upset when the US 
military did its job and picked off somali pirates?  It is because 
the media knows that truth, that as piracy increases, temps 
decrease.




Thanks for sharing that link - I learned that there is an inverse
relationship between the number of pirates and the global average
temperature (number of pirates is in steady decline, temperature is
increasing, ergo the solution is more pirates).

-Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

As in - http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ ???

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:


 . I'll stick to the FSM...


OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. 
But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link)



124 Fans,

Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
to be slightly larger than the old.

Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
of a pipe).

When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

-Max
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 332k miles
'95 E300 275k miles (project)
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 60, Issue 101

2010-11-24 Thread Mitch Haley

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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey

Any permenent damage to the interior?


Who could tell!  :-)

No, I don't think there's any damage, though I might
have broken off the starter knob had I tried brute force
instead of the space heater.  Those are NLA.

Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there?  A 115
heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions?  We would
have been pretty screwed had that failed on us.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, I caught that, just didn't respond.  And having the heater 
aboard proved to be a real benefit in addition to the working heater 
fan.


Glad y'all survived the ordeal.  I was suffering through 79-80 degree 
weather.  It is tough, but somebody has to do it.  Today will only be 
74, but tomorrow is predicted for 80.





Any permenent damage to the interior?


Who could tell!  :-)

No, I don't think there's any damage, though I might
have broken off the starter knob had I tried brute force
instead of the space heater.  Those are NLA.

Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there?  A 115
heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions?  We would
have been pretty screwed had that failed on us.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread WILTON

I noticed.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery



Any permenent damage to the interior?


Who could tell!  :-)

No, I don't think there's any damage, though I might
have broken off the starter knob had I tried brute force
instead of the space heater.  Those are NLA.

Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there?  A 115
heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions?  We would
have been pretty screwed had that failed on us.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
What year was the car that you did this work on?  I'm wondering if a
change was made mid-run.

-Max 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. 
But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link)

124 Fans,

Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a 
shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We

found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be 
tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when 
starting at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had 
bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve 
rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He 
measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, 
and found the new to be slightly larger than the old.

Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as

275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been 
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require 
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the 
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would 
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and 
part of a pipe).

When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring 
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a 
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I 
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

-Max
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 332k miles
'95 E300 275k miles (project)
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-24 Thread David Bruckmann
This sounds awfully complicated. On my 115, I just opened the bleed screw, 
moved the pedal up and down a few times, and called it a day. Seems to be 
working fine ever since. 

Someone wrote:
 The problem is for this one you can't use the brake system because 
 that system being a closed system it can't make the level in the MC 
 rise, you MUST have a pressure bleed device, which I don't.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Got the tool last night; it works really well! The right tool for the
job makes like so nice...

http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1query=m008
5x=0y=0

I only had time to do one bushing, which took me about 30 minutes.
We'll see how the other side works out - I'll bet that I can do it
faster than 30 minutes.  This tool has a thrust bearing in the pull side
of the tool, and fit/finish were about 9 out of 10.  The acme threads
were a little rough in the last half of the travel, but after working
the tool over the full range of motion with some nice anti-galling
never-seize paste, it was pretty smooth.  Didn't even need a cheater bar
to extract the old bushing.

Another note, the manual says that for some cars, the dust shield needs
to be loosened and rotated so that the opening for the caliper allows
access for the tool.  On my E300 the dust shield is rusted in place, but
the tool fit fine, so I did all the work of removing the parking brake
shoes and mechanism but in the end didn't need to do that.  Not looking
forward to putting that back together.

I'm going to have to do all this work again on my wagon; planning to
'make' my own puller for the inner bushing of the LCA aka spring link.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

OK - it's a deal.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 OK, already ordered it.  I'll report on it's usefulness, and then 
 you've got first dibs once I'm done with both cars.  Only condition is

 if you sell it, advertise it here first.

 -Max --

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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-24 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Concur, that's why I recommended and successfully have used the
procedure that Marshall Booth promoted: allow it to self bleed by
driving around in first gear for a few minutes.  Worked great on a 123
and a 201.

-Max 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

This sounds awfully complicated. On my 115, I just opened the bleed
screw, moved the pedal up and down a few times, and called it a day.
Seems to be working fine ever since. 

Someone wrote:
 The problem is for this one you can't use the brake system because 
 that system being a closed system it can't make the level in the MC 
 rise, you MUST have a pressure bleed device, which I don't.


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[MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm having a 
hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to the lock nut). I 
tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of the race chewed it up. I then 
tried a pin punch for driving out brake pad retaining pins but it just slips as 
the edge profile of the race is not enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? 
Does putting the hub in the freezer help?


  

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm having a 
hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to the lock nut). I 
tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of the race chewed it up. I then 
tried a pin punch for driving out brake pad retaining pins but it just slips as 
the edge profile of the race is not enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? 
Does putting the hub in the freezer help?


Not the voice of experience here, but I'd be tempted to hit the housing with a 
torch, and then hit the race with liquid CO2 or propane, see if it falls out.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

2010-11-24 Thread Craig
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:37:55 -0500 Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Got the tool last night; it works really well! The right tool for the
 job makes like so nice...
 
 http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1query=m0085x=0y=0

I'm glad that it works well.


 This tool has a thrust bearing in the pull side of the tool, and
 fit/finish were about 9 out of 10. 

Better, then, than the tools I bought. Maybe Oliver Sir is serious about
the quality of the tools they make. I infer that he took the company over
from his father


 The acme threads were a little rough in the last half of the travel,
 but after working the tool over the full range of motion with some nice
 anti-galling never-seize paste, it was pretty smooth.

Sounds like the tools I got.


 Didn't even need a cheater bar to extract the old bushing.

Sounds like it worked like it's supposed to!


 Another note, the manual says that for some cars, the dust shield needs
 to be loosened and rotated so that the opening for the caliper allows
 access for the tool.  On my E300 the dust shield is rusted in place, but
 the tool fit fine, so I did all the work of removing the parking brake
 shoes and mechanism but in the end didn't need to do that.  Not looking
 forward to putting that back together.

I'm confused now at what bushing you were replacing. Where exactly is it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Need computer help

2010-11-24 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:33:26 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you don't need anything on the computer now, I'd suggest a clean 
 install of XP Pro if you have it.  Or a clean install of anything. 
 THat should eliminate whatever garbage the employees put on it.

Yes, that's a very good idea!

Get rid of all of the viruses, trojans, adware, and other nasty stuff.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas
You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there.  Add 
a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the 
curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my 
wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely 
oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us.  I gunned the engine, 
and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires 
managed to grab just a bit.  The car just managed to remove us from the 
danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was 
announcing they won, they won!)  and you would have them hooked.


--R

On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Date night!  We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel
while Jill and I went to band practice.  The weather was bad, and
predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut
short.  We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard
conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to
avoid.  (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a
marginally better alternate route.)  We were going OK even though
visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to
wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a
stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were
forced to ourselves stop...and join the party.  The car kept us warm,
and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled
winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered
radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped.  After an hour
and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could
get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others
out.  In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were
so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both
our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind,
rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge
for the night with nearby friends.  By then it had gotten so cold and
windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I
had to drive with my head out the opened door.  That added to the fun,
and resulted in a rather snowy interior.  And there were still drifts
to deal with that way, too.  But we got through and parked out on the
street.

In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I
couldn't even begin to start it.  I had the space heater, though, and
I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip
for an hour or so.  That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start
the car, whereupon we went home.  That trip, in the light and with no
wind, was uneventful.  Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back
some.

The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit
too much from it.  The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still
worked well.  Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been
a bit of a hairy trip.  As it was, it was an Event.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Need computer help

2010-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas
I had some old box that had a password on it, I found some unix boot 
program you put on a CD (which one of those things might have been) that 
would bring the computer to life, find the winders password file, and 
give you an option to change or remove it.  Worked great, took about 5 
min to do.


--R

On 11/24/10 12:53 PM, Craig wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:33:26 -0600 Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

If you don't need anything on the computer now, I'd suggest a clean
install of XP Pro if you have it.  Or a clean install of anything.
THat should eliminate whatever garbage the employees put on it.
 

Yes, that's a very good idea!

Get rid of all of the viruses, trojans, adware, and other nasty stuff.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread R A Bennell
So, let me get this straight - heat it up red hot - hit it with propane 
- blow it right out of the hole??


Randy


On 24/11/2010 11:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm 
having a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to 
the lock nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of the 
race chewed it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out brake pad 
retaining pins but it just slips as the edge profile of the race is 
not enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? Does putting the hub 
in the freezer help?


Not the voice of experience here, but I'd be tempted to hit the 
housing with a torch, and then hit the race with liquid CO2 or 
propane, see if it falls out.


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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread R A Bennell

Is the Frankenheap not a 240D? Where would he get 80Hp? Maybe 40 HP?

Randy

On 24/11/2010 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there.  
Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding 
around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the 
fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and 
completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us.  I gunned 
the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out 
snow tires managed to grab just a bit.  The car just managed to remove 
us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming 
wife, who was announcing they won, they won!)  and you would have 
them hooked.


--R

On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Date night!  We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel
while Jill and I went to band practice.  The weather was bad, and
predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut
short.  We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard
conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to
avoid.  (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a
marginally better alternate route.)  We were going OK even though
visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to
wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a
stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were
forced to ourselves stop...and join the party.  The car kept us warm,
and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled
winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered
radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped.  After an hour
and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could
get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others
out.  In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were
so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both
our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind,
rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge
for the night with nearby friends.  By then it had gotten so cold and
windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I
had to drive with my head out the opened door.  That added to the fun,
and resulted in a rather snowy interior.  And there were still drifts
to deal with that way, too.  But we got through and parked out on the
street.

In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I
couldn't even begin to start it.  I had the space heater, though, and
I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip
for an hour or so.  That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start
the car, whereupon we went home.  That trip, in the light and with no
wind, was uneventful.  Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back
some.

The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit
too much from it.  The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still
worked well.  Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been
a bit of a hairy trip.  As it was, it was an Event.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Mitch Haley

R A Bennell wrote:
So, let me get this straight - heat it up red hot - hit it with propane 
- blow it right out of the hole??


CO2 would be safer. I wouldn't heat it to glowing and then hold a propane torch 
upside down over it.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Craig
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:49 -0600 R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

 So, let me get this straight - heat it up red hot - hit it with propane 
 - blow it right out of the hole??


Sounds like it could get exciting! :-)

I think Mitch was thinking of the propane for its cold properties,
forgetting about its flammable properties.

In any even, red hot is much too hot.


Craig


 On 24/11/2010 11:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
  Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
  I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm 
  having a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to 
  the lock nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of
  the race chewed it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out
  brake pad retaining pins but it just slips as the edge profile of
  the race is not enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? Does
  putting the hub in the freezer help?
 
  Not the voice of experience here, but I'd be tempted to hit the 
  housing with a torch, and then hit the race with liquid CO2 or 
  propane, see if it falls out.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread R A Bennell
Yeah, I was just having a bit of fun with the idea ( at his expense 
perhaps).


Randy

On 24/11/2010 1:48 PM, Craig wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:49 -0600 R A Bennellb...@mts.net  wrote:


So, let me get this straight - heat it up red hot - hit it with propane
- blow it right out of the hole??


Sounds like it could get exciting! :-)

I think Mitch was thinking of the propane for its cold properties,
forgetting about its flammable properties.

In any even, red hot is much too hot.


Craig



On 24/11/2010 11:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm
having a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to
the lock nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of
the race chewed it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out
brake pad retaining pins but it just slips as the edge profile of
the race is not enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? Does
putting the hub in the freezer help?

Not the voice of experience here, but I'd be tempted to hit the
housing with a torch, and then hit the race with liquid CO2 or
propane, see if it falls out.

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Well I managed to get the race out. I pounded on it with the tip of a large 
screwdriver. The bearing was making an awful sound but it didn't look all that 
bad when I got it apart. The smaller race definitely had some bluing but no 
blatant scoring or pitting. I hope this was the problem.  Hopefully it's not 
some other non bearing related thing that I'm not aware of.

Sent from my iPhone 

On Nov 24, 2010, at 2:55 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

Yeah, I was just having a bit of fun with the idea ( at his expense perhaps).

Randy

On 24/11/2010 1:48 PM, Craig wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:49 -0600 R A Bennellb...@mts.net  wrote:

So, let me get this straight - heat it up red hot - hit it with propane
- blow it right out of the hole??

Sounds like it could get exciting! :-)

I think Mitch was thinking of the propane for its cold properties,
forgetting about its flammable properties.

In any even, red hot is much too hot.


Craig


On 24/11/2010 11:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm
having a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to
the lock nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of
the race chewed it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out
brake pad retaining pins but it just slips as the edge profile of
the race is not enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? Does
putting the hub in the freezer help?
Not the voice of experience here, but I'd be tempted to hit the
housing with a torch, and then hit the race with liquid CO2 or
propane, see if it falls out.

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Gerry Archer

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
I'm trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm 
having a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to the 
lock nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of the race 
chewed it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out brake pad 
retaining pins but it just slips as the edge profile of the race is not 
enough to get a good grip. Any other tips? Does putting the hub in the 
freezer help?


Not the voice of experience here, but I'd be tempted to hit the housing 
with a torch, and then hit the race with liquid CO2 or propane, see if it 
falls out.

Mitch
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Never did an SL, but on other cars I ground a slightly angled flat on the 
end of a long drift punch and used the sharper edge of the punch to gently 
tap the outer race all the way around; tapping the opposite sides 
alternately.  If I was installing a new bearing, I tapped much harder with a 
bigger hammer.  Never failed to get one out that way, but there is always a 
first time of course.  If the bearing had run hot, I soaked it with WD-40 
and Rust Eater (from Autozone) for several hours, and then with light 
machine oil for an hour or so.  If the bearing was stuck hard, I sometimes 
had to grind the end of the punch several times.

Good luck,
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Use a soft steel punch.  You may need to sharpen  it a couple times  
by grinding it flat on the end.


Timken bearings are great, but the races are a tight, tight fit.

DO NOT heat the hub with a torch

Peter

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[MBZ] '84 190D update

2010-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
When we last left the '84 190D it'd been shipped off to my Indy to un-screwup 
the rear subframe mounts.

Got it back today and the handling was back to where it was before I tried the 
subframe mounts, maybe slightly better.

To recap: if this car were a snowmobile I'd say it darts. The feeling is a 
little bit like getting blown around in the wind. Subframe mounts have been 
replaced, rear links have been replaced, rear shocks are new.



So I'm dammed tired of this and out of desperation I decided to pull off
 the 14 wheels/tires on the car and switch to my 15 winter wheels. In 
doing so I realized the old tires were mismatched front vs rear but I 
also realized whatever asshole put the wheels on last was a gorilla with
 the air gun. On the rear I've already got 2 stripped lug holes, one on 
each side and on the front driver's there was on I COULD NOT GET OFF.

Seriously, I've got a lug wrench from an old BMW, the crank type, and I jumped 
on it for like 10 minutes and it wouldn't move...

Finally took it to a friend's place and used his very nice Mac impact gun to 
buzz it off.



Anyway put on the winter tires/wheels and after the flat spots (they 
were on the '85 which sat a few months) rounded back out I can feel a 
SIGNIFICANT improvement. The car is driveable now at 65mph (fastest I 
could go where I was) where it was iffy at 50mph before. This makes the 
car commute ready more or less. My guess is the gorilla with the impact 
gun bent one or more of the wheels or I had a bad tire or two. I don't 
really care, I'm going to get rid of the 14s as I have 2 full sets of 
15s.



Its not perfect, still a little soft/darty, but its windy today so its 
hard to really tell. Does a 201 have a steering shock? I'm wondering if 
that could be the issue now, the front end is otherwise tight.



-Curt




  
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I had the exact same problem on a 201 a couple years ago. I ran a bead of weld 
across the race in 3 or 4 places. The theory is when the weld cools it'll 
contract and pull the race in with it. Seemed to work in my case.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:27:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement
Message-ID: 893836.8557...@web113205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I'm
 trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm having
 a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to the lock 
nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of the race chewed
 it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out brake pad retaining 
pins but it just slips as the edge profile of the race is not enough to 
get a good grip. Any other tips? Does putting the hub in the freezer 
help?



  
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
80hp? Isn't the heap a 220D? My '78 240D is more like 62hp...

But other than that I concur, I've been missing the Frankenheap and 
Chickenwagon...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:57:23 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Message-ID: 4ced5203.5030...@constructivity.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there.  Add 
a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the 
curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my 
wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely 
oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us.  I gunned the engine, 
and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires 
managed to grab just a bit.  The car just managed to remove us from the 
danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was 
announcing they won, they won!)  and you would have them hooked.

--R


  
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Creative solution!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 24, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

I had the exact same problem on a 201 a couple years ago. I ran a bead of weld 
across the race in 3 or 4 places. The theory is when the weld cools it'll 
contract and pull the race in with it. Seemed to work in my case.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:27:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement
Message-ID: 893836.8557...@web113205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I'm
trying to replace the front wheel bearing on my 71 280SL and I'm having
a hard time driving out the smaller race (the one closer to the lock 
nut). I tried with a brass punch but the harder metal of the race chewed
it up. I then tried a pin punch for driving out brake pad retaining 
pins but it just slips as the edge profile of the race is not enough to 
get a good grip. Any other tips? Does putting the hub in the freezer 
help?




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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey

More fun today.  Neither of our other two winter vehicles (both
diesels, the Chicken Wagon and the Dodge pickup) would start today as
it was 0 degrees (F) out and they'd not been adequately prepared for
the cold which came on suddenly.  Jill ended up driving this car
around town all day.  (Not her favorite vehicle at all.)  And when she
came to pick me up at work she'd had a sudden flat as she pulled in.
I had to change the tire in our work parking lot, headache and feeling
sickly.  The jack started collapsing the underpinning of the car, this
is stuff I'd welded up (from rusty tatters) years ago.  Probably too
thin, or else it's falling apart again.  Sigh.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing replacement

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey

I ran a bead of weld across the race in 3 or 4 places.


Old, old farmer's trick.  Supposedly works great.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

2010-11-24 Thread OK Don
Are you refering to the inner or outer bushing? Are you replacing both of
them? Mine has 350,000 miles - and will be starting this job when the new
bushings arrive (Rusty - they're NOT here yet!).

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 124 Fans,

 Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
 to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
 that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
 so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
 at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
 were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
 had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
 bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
 to be slightly larger than the old.

 Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
 worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.

 Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
 less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
 wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
 have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
 of a pipe).

 When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
 link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
 piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
 stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.

 -Max
 --

OK Don
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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey

Is the Frankenheap not a 240D? Where would he get 80Hp? Maybe 40 HP?


80 HP?  Pffft!  This is a 200D, maybe 50 HP.  Excellent driveability,
though, with a stick shift.  Torquey.

The tire shop called.  The Hakka 1 was ruined by driving on the
flat.  Crap, I was going for 10 years and didn't make it!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey

and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit.


They weren't worn out, but they are old.  That is, the three
of them that haven't been ruined by my wife driving on a fla
are old.  The other one is now toast.

I like your adventure writing better.  Get started!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] '84 190D update

2010-11-24 Thread OK Don
Yes, I think the 201 has the steering shock (damper). When my 124 was darty,
and I had replaced the rear control arms, and it was still darty, I finally
took it to a frame/suspension/alignment shop where they found a very worn
lower front ball joint. Replacing both sides made it a VERY nice car to
drive!

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 When we last left the '84 190D it'd been shipped off to my Indy to
 un-screwup the rear subframe mounts.

 Got it back today and the handling was back to where it was before I tried
 the subframe mounts, maybe slightly better.

 To recap: if this car were a snowmobile I'd say it darts. The feeling is
 a little bit like getting blown around in the wind. Subframe mounts have
 been replaced, rear links have been replaced, rear shocks are new.



 So I'm dammed tired of this and out of desperation I decided to pull off
  the 14 wheels/tires on the car and switch to my 15 winter wheels. In
 doing so I realized the old tires were mismatched front vs rear but I
 also realized whatever asshole put the wheels on last was a gorilla with
  the air gun. On the rear I've already got 2 stripped lug holes, one on
 each side and on the front driver's there was on I COULD NOT GET OFF.

 Seriously, I've got a lug wrench from an old BMW, the crank type, and I
 jumped on it for like 10 minutes and it wouldn't move...

 Finally took it to a friend's place and used his very nice Mac impact gun
 to buzz it off.



 Anyway put on the winter tires/wheels and after the flat spots (they
 were on the '85 which sat a few months) rounded back out I can feel a
 SIGNIFICANT improvement. The car is driveable now at 65mph (fastest I
 could go where I was) where it was iffy at 50mph before. This makes the
 car commute ready more or less. My guess is the gorilla with the impact
 gun bent one or more of the wheels or I had a bad tire or two. I don't
 really care, I'm going to get rid of the 14s as I have 2 full sets of
 15s.



 Its not perfect, still a little soft/darty, but its windy today so its
 hard to really tell. Does a 201 have a steering shock? I'm wondering if
 that could be the issue now, the front end is otherwise tight.



 -Curt--


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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread OK Don
Having replaced TWO of them, oh yes, I noticed!

Quite an adventure. We got the energy you're missing up there - set a new
high temp record at 81F in Norman today. It was 70 at 8AM!

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there?  A 115
 heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions?  We would
 have been pretty screwed had that failed on us.


 -- Jim
 --


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 60, Issue 101

2010-11-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-24 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:27:49 -0500 Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I bought the Motive power bleeder with attachment for MB reservoirs
 (about $40 plus shipping IIRC), and it is mighty nice to use (when
 properly set-up so it doesn't leak).  Some extra pieces and parts would
 be needed to attach to the clutch slave bleeder nipple - should be
 available for about $3 at local hardware store.

Like the attached picture shows?


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
The 110 diesels would self bleed if you just opened the bleed screw a 
little.  When it dripped a steady stream, close the bleeder.  I 
usually tried then to let is sit overnight in case any lil air 
bubbles are trapped inside.  Apparently the tube routing is more 
complicated on 123 and newer cars.  Plus if the master is adjusted 
per the procedure Max posted, it can't self bleed.  It probably would 
if you adjusted the eccentric so that the fluid WOULD flow up into 
the master.  That should allow self-bleeding, except maybe the slave, 
depending on how it is oriented.



Concur, that's why I recommended and successfully have used the
procedure that Marshall Booth promoted: allow it to self bleed by
driving around in first gear for a few minutes.  Worked great on a 123
and a 201.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

This sounds awfully complicated. On my 115, I just opened the bleed
screw, moved the pedal up and down a few times, and called it a day.
Seems to be working fine ever since.

Someone wrote:

 The problem is for this one you can't use the brake system because
 that system being a closed system it can't make the level in the MC
 rise, you MUST have a pressure bleed device, which I don't.



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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead


How did the Frankenheap get 80 HP?  Sneak a turbo in there?


You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there. 
Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding 
around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, 
the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her 
phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us. 
I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and 
the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit.  The car just 
managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid 
past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they 
won!)  and you would have them hooked.


--R

On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Date night!  We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel
while Jill and I went to band practice.  The weather was bad, and
predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut
short.  We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard
conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to
avoid.  (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a
marginally better alternate route.)  We were going OK even though
visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to
wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a
stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were
forced to ourselves stop...and join the party.  The car kept us warm,
and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled
winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered
radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped.  After an hour
and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could
get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others
out.  In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were
so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both
our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind,
rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge
for the night with nearby friends.  By then it had gotten so cold and
windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I
had to drive with my head out the opened door.  That added to the fun,
and resulted in a rather snowy interior.  And there were still drifts
to deal with that way, too.  But we got through and parked out on the
street.

In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I
couldn't even begin to start it.  I had the space heater, though, and
I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip
for an hour or so.  That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start
the car, whereupon we went home.  That trip, in the light and with no
wind, was uneventful.  Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back
some.

The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit
too much from it.  The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still
worked well.  Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been
a bit of a hairy trip.  As it was, it was an Event.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Need computer help

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead

That is the NT password tool

I had some old box that had a password on it, I found some unix boot 
program you put on a CD (which one of those things might have been) 
that would bring the computer to life, find the winders password 
file, and give you an option to change or remove it.  Worked great, 
took about 5 min to do.


--R

On 11/24/10 12:53 PM, Craig wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:33:26 -0600 Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:



If you don't need anything on the computer now, I'd suggest a clean
install of XP Pro if you have it.  Or a clean install of anything.
THat should eliminate whatever garbage the employees put on it.


Yes, that's a very good idea!

Get rid of all of the viruses, trojans, adware, and other nasty stuff.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Nah, he hitched a horse with a SCUD missile to the front! :D
Or was it a JATO unit?

Walt
On Nov 24, 2010 9:01 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 How did the Frankenheap get 80 HP? Sneak a turbo in there?


You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there.
Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding
around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor,
the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her
phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us.
I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and
the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. The car just
managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid
past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they
won!) and you would have them hooked.

--R

On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel
while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and
predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut
short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard
conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to
avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a
marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though
visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to
wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a
stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were
forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm,
and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled
winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered
radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour
and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could
get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others
out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were
so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both
our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind,
rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge
for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and
windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I
had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun,
and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts
to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the
street.

In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I
couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and
I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip
for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start
the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no
wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back
some.

The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit
too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still
worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been
a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] Crashing in the snow...

2010-11-24 Thread Mitch Haley


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZCyQ3emQg  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJLVub50Aw


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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
the OM621 200D was 60 HP.  Yours should be 60 or 65  I was thinking 
the OM615 220 D was 65 or 70


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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
Oh Man!  I remember that too well.  My first 190Dc I had to find a 
scissor jack to carry along, and then if the tire was really flat, it 
was nearly impossible to get the scissor jack  under the axle or LCA. 
Add in suddenly 0, and it makes for nothing like fun.


2 years ago when it turned cold really fast, the gassers would not 
even start or run until it warmed up.  But the old 240D took right 
off.


When I was a kid, the 36 chevy truck would always start when nothing 
else would.




More fun today.  Neither of our other two winter vehicles (both
diesels, the Chicken Wagon and the Dodge pickup) would start today as
it was 0 degrees (F) out and they'd not been adequately prepared for
the cold which came on suddenly.  Jill ended up driving this car
around town all day.  (Not her favorite vehicle at all.)  And when she
came to pick me up at work she'd had a sudden flat as she pulled in.
I had to change the tire in our work parking lot, headache and feeling
sickly.  The jack started collapsing the underpinning of the car, this
is stuff I'd welded up (from rusty tatters) years ago.  Probably too
thin, or else it's falling apart again.  Sigh.

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Re: [MBZ] Crashing in the snow...

2010-11-24 Thread Gerry Archer


From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZCyQ3emQg 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJLVub50Aw

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Re: [MBZ] Crashing in the snow...

2010-11-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Gerry Archer wrote:

Here's another interesting snow video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P9G7xkJmU8NR=1



That's been around for a few years, but I never saw the whole thing before, just 
a few seconds leading up to the bumper removal.
Looks like they could have pushed it out by hand before they pulled it sideways 
into the deep stuff.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT Airport Security

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead

Relly should like this one!

From a HS friend of mine:

FINALLY The Israelis are developing an airport security device that 
eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at 
the airports. It's a booth you can step into and it will detonate any 
explosives you have on you. Justice would be swift. Case closed! 
You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. 
Attention standby passengers - we now have a seat available! Happy 
Thanksgiving!

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Re: [MBZ] Crashing in the snow...

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
All of these are examples of why car insurance is so high.  If people 
had to pay for their own screwups instead of cost-shifting, life 
would be better.




Gerry Archer wrote:

Here's another interesting snow video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P9G7xkJmU8NR=1



That's been around for a few years, but I never saw the whole thing 
before, just a few seconds leading up to the bumper removal.
Looks like they could have pushed it out by hand before they pulled 
it sideways into the deep stuff.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Airport Security

2010-11-24 Thread OK Don
I heard that at work today - sounds like a winner to me!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Relly should like this one!

 From a HS friend of mine:

 FINALLY The Israelis are developing an airport security device that
 eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at the
 airports. It's a booth you can step into and it will detonate any explosives
 you have on you. Justice would be swift. Case closed! You're in the airport
 terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Attention standby passengers -
 we now have a seat available! Happy Thanksgiving!
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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

 The jack started collapsing the underpinning of the car, this is stuff
 I'd welded up (from rusty tatters) years ago.  Probably too thin, or
 else it's falling apart again. 

Was this where microwave oven sheet metal was pressed into service?  If
so I'd vote too thin.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Airport Security

2010-11-24 Thread Dieselhead
Hmmm  Couldn't some sort of EMP work to detonate?  Of course it might 
fry your laptops, cell phones camera  and other carryon




But maybe that is not all bad.  No emails from work.  No calls from 
work.  Kinda like the old west sheriff who make you check your guns 
at the edge of town.   Hey stranger, you gotta check your laptops 
and cellphones here...  or else we zap them and make them useless.




I heard that at work today - sounds like a winner to me!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Relly should like this one!

 From a HS friend of mine:

 FINALLY The Israelis are developing an airport security device that
 eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at the
 airports. It's a booth you can step into and it will detonate any explosives
 you have on you. Justice would be swift. Case closed! You're in the airport
 terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Attention standby passengers -
 we now have a seat available! Happy Thanksgiving!
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey
the OM621 200D was 60 HP.  Yours should be 60 or 65  I was thinking 
the OM615 220 D was 65 or 70


Somehow I'd always thought it was less.  I believe it does have
a 240D head on it though.  One would think it ought to be about
10% less than the 220D, just based on displacement.


Was this where microwave oven sheet metal was pressed into service?  If
so I'd vote too thin.


The only microwave metal is the outer rocker shell as it was easier to
curve into the desired profile.  The jack hole supports underneath it,
and everything else up inside, is considerably thicker stuff.

-- Jim



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