[MBZ] This...
... is pretty cool: http://htwins.net/scale2/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sarah needs a knob
She needs a new steering too, I'll call her. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sarah needs a knob Rusty should try and sell her a new gear knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1feature=fvwpv=lUxWBBMWOtg Hendrik whose knobs look better than that ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sarah needs a knob
And a hood star --R On 3/13/12 7:53 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Rusty should try and sell her a new gear knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1feature=fvwpv=lUxWBBMWOtg Hendrik whose knobs look better than that ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Computers, hoons and Diesels
Also the question has come up on the Ozbenz forum, as to why the US got S class Diesels and just about no one outside of continental Europe and the US did. Someone suggested it was due to the average fuel consumption legislation from the 70's but I am a bit weary of that theory. You blokes just don't live right. Not enough of you live beyond your means. In the US and Japan in the 80s, lotsa people lived beyond their means. (semi tongue in cheek) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Laptop Memory
I was wondering if anyone has any old laptop memory laying around? I seem to remember that someone had some and before I go trying to buy some new I figured I would see if there was any used somewhere on the list. I need 2 pcs. of 100 mhz 256 meg 3.3 volt So-dimm for on old Dell Latitude that I want to fix up for my Granddaughter to use. Faster ram would probably also work. I don't think the speed, other then if it is too slow, makes much of a difference. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] looks like it can be done
I see the pickers have already high-graded parts from the shell The price goes up to put it on the road by geometric scale. Not for me, been there done that.. RIP.. Grant... On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:35 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/2900283062.html Better call to see if the engine still works clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Laptop Memory
Manfred. If 128mb are of any use, I have two that you may have. PC100-222-620 Out of a Dell Latitude CPX-J Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2012 11:39 AM, MG wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any old laptop memory laying around? I seem to remember that someone had some and before I go trying to buy some new I figured I would see if there was any used somewhere on the list. I need 2 pcs. of 100 mhz 256 meg 3.3 volt So-dimm for on old Dell Latitude that I want to fix up for my Granddaughter to use. Faster ram would probably also work. I don't think the speed, other then if it is too slow, makes much of a difference. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
I started and ran my '85 300TD a little while ago and it still has a rough idle and smokes upon a cold startup, but warms up in 2-3 min. and then the idle is as smooth as an old diesel will get and the smoking ceases, so there's no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors yesterday. Next step? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:08 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I started and ran my '85 300TD a little while ago and it still has a rough idle and smokes upon a cold startup, but warms up in 2-3 min. and then the idle is as smooth as an old diesel will get and the smoking ceases, so there's no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors yesterday. Next step? Questions for Glenn. Does the smoke smell like unburnt fuel or coolant? Does it only do this when started from dead cold? (I think you answered in the affirmative before. I work midnights and am brain dead right now.) Questions for list. I've never had the head off of an OM617. Is it possible that the glow plugs are shrouded in carbon and are having no effect? What are the balls in the pre-chamber for? If one was missing, would it cause a problem like this? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
glenn brown wrote: I started and ran my '85 300TD a little while ago and it still has a rough idle and smokes upon a cold startup, but warms up in 2-3 min. and then the idle is as smooth as an old diesel will get and the smoking ceases, so there's no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors yesterday. Next step? I forget, have you done a cold power balance test by starting the car and cracking open the injector lines one at a time? If so, which cylinders did not cause the engine to run worse when you deactivated their injectors? (as always, keep your hands away from the high pressure fittings when you loosen them to avoid a subcutaneous injection of #2 diesel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
I haven't followed this thread but ... When my 82 300SD has same symptoms the cure was new glow plugs. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of glenn brown Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors I started and ran my '85 300TD a little while ago and it still has a rough idle and smokes upon a cold startup, but warms up in 2-3 min. and then the idle is as smooth as an old diesel will get and the smoking ceases, so there's no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors yesterday. Next step? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GulagUSA
Not interesting, his socialist agenda too obvious. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I haven't followed this thread but ... When my 82 300SD has same symptoms the cure was new glow plugs. Scott I like Scott's answer. Other places to look include the delivery valves for the affected cylinders. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
Also, rack damper bolt? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
I didn't follow this completely, but didn't you have low compression in 4 5? Its likely if you had bad injectors there, then they've already done their damage and its time for a rebuild. If you suspect heavy carbon build up or stuck rings, drive it and change the oil frequently. If things don't improve after a few thousand miles and several oil changes, you've got some more serious damage. I'm assuming you've already checked valve clearance and confirmed the glow plugs are good. And what lead you do replace only two injectors? Did you have them all tested? Why not replace all of them? Good luck, Jaime On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I started and ran my '85 300TD a little while ago and it still has a rough idle and smokes upon a cold startup, but warms up in 2-3 min. and then the idle is as smooth as an old diesel will get and the smoking ceases, so there's no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors yesterday. Next step? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: If you suspect heavy carbon build up or stuck rings, drive it and change the oil frequently. Drive_it_like_you_stole_it. Preferably through some mountainous terrain. Every day. All day. Or as long as you can. Rick Who still thinks Glenn's problem is glow related...somehow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
Welcome back Max. Where were you hiding? Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I like Scott's answer. Other places to look include the delivery valves for the affected cylinders ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
OK, guys, pile on. I'm in unfamiliar territory here, and could really use some direction: 1992 300E 2.6, complaint is AC compressor won't come on. Original complaint was that the #7 fuse was blowing, killing all ACC related functions. Fuse was replaced, and now ACC functions as expected, that is, fan speeds, doors, heat/defrost, etc. Everything works but the AC compressor. I shorted out the low pressure switch with no result. Checked for power in the harness to the low pressure switch in reference to ground and got nothing. This model has a MAS relay which may or may not play a part in this, but I don't have a schematic, so if anyone does, I would really appreciate you forwarding a copy to me, as that would make my life significantly easier in identifying the problem. If I pull the MAS relay while the car is running the engine dies, as I would expect. Since it's supposed to interface with all sorts of things like the fuel pump and other goodies, it appears to be working as intended, as everything else on the car works perfectly. I have to believe there is a failure in getting a signal to the compressor clutch, but without a diagram I'm swinging in the proverbial wind. I would put B+ to the clutch, but I'm unsure of what wire is which, and I don't want to smoke the speed sensor in the process. From what I can glean, it appears that power comes in, goes through the low pressure switch, and then on to the compressor clutch. That's an educated guess based on what I am seeing, but I'm not tearing harnesses apart, either. There are three wires going to a connector on the top of the compressor, two of which go off in a separate harness that heads up under the air cleaner. The remaining wire goes to one side of the low pressure switch. I am assuming the two that head into the engine harness are for the speed sensor. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
You're very close, if my 124 diesel knowledge applies. The KLIMA relay compares engine speed to compressor speed to decide if the serpentine belt is slipping. Sounds like that signal has been interrupted. Could be bad speed coil on the compressor, bad KLIMA, or bad engine speed pick-up. Could also be bad clutch on the compressor, or bad PBU. Hard to track down with out knowing which wires connect to what. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
All quite possible, however, I have yet to determine that the MAS relay has taken the place of the KLIMA relay (which does not exist on this particular chassis.) That's why I really need a schematic. With that I could at least pin things down... Thanks! Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Max wrote: You're very close, if my 124 diesel knowledge applies. The KLIMA relay compares engine speed to compressor speed to decide if the serpentine belt is slipping. Sounds like that signal has been interrupted. Could be bad speed coil on the compressor, bad KLIMA, or bad engine speed pick-up. Could also be bad clutch on the compressor, or bad PBU. Hard to track down with out knowing which wires connect to what. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sarah needs a knob
Perhaps one of the listers will take the 220 off her hands and give it a good home. Hendrik who is trying to get virtualbox up and running On 15/03/12 00:32, Rich Thomas wrote: And a hood star --R On 3/13/12 7:53 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Rusty should try and sell her a new gear knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1feature=fvwpv=lUxWBBMWOtg Hendrik whose knobs look better than that ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sarah needs a knob
Sarah needs more than a knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1feature=endscreenv=g0lIEq16eEg Randy On 14/03/2012 9:02 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: And a hood star --R On 3/13/12 7:53 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Rusty should try and sell her a new gear knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1feature=fvwpv=lUxWBBMWOtg Hendrik whose knobs look better than that ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
Read #2 and #3 here http://www.w124performance.com/service/W126/Index/Misc.htm I think you are right, that the wire from the low pressure switch to the comp is the clutch power wire. With it off at the comp, measure resistance of the terminal on the compressor to ground. Open or near 0 resistance means the coil is bad. (obviously) I don't know what the resistance should be, probably 1.5 to 3 ohms. is a good coil. You could also have someone turn on the AC while you are measuring the voltage of that wire to ground. It should show 12v for a short time, until the system detects the pulley is not turning. It is possible the everything relay replaced the Klima. Or maybe they moved the Klima on that model. OK, guys, pile on. I'm in unfamiliar territory here, and could really use some direction: 1992 300E 2.6, complaint is AC compressor won't come on. Original complaint was that the #7 fuse was blowing, killing all ACC related functions. Fuse was replaced, and now ACC functions as expected, that is, fan speeds, doors, heat/defrost, etc. Everything works but the AC compressor. I shorted out the low pressure switch with no result. Checked for power in the harness to the low pressure switch in reference to ground and got nothing. This model has a MAS relay which may or may not play a part in this, but I don't have a schematic, so if anyone does, I would really appreciate you forwarding a copy to me, as that would make my life significantly easier in identifying the problem. If I pull the MAS relay while the car is running the engine dies, as I would expect. Since it's supposed to interface with all sorts of things like the fuel pump and other goodies, it appears to be working as intended, as everything else on the car works perfectly. I have to believe there is a failure in getting a signal to the compressor clutch, but without a diagram I'm swinging in the proverbial wind. I would put B+ to the clutch, but I'm unsure of what wire is which, and I don't want to smoke the speed sensor in the process. From what I can glean, it appears that power comes in, goes through the low pressure switch, and then on to the compressor clutch. That's an educated guess based on what I am seeing, but I'm not tearing harnesses apart, either. There are three wires going to a connector on the top of the compressor, two of which go off in a separate harness that heads up under the air cleaner. The remaining wire goes to one side of the low pressure switch. I am assuming the two that head into the engine harness are for the speed sensor. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
I did attempt to check for voltage from the ACC system to the low pressure switch and ultimately the compressor clutch, but I turned things on and then got over to the connections, so it would have been a good 30 seconds before I ever got the Fluke's leads on the connectors. It's such a small gauge wire, I'm surprised it would provide power to the clutch, as it draws a good 3-4 amps, I believe. I did not attempt to check the resistance of the clutch coil, however, since I'm not getting power to it in the first place, I don't think it's necessarily the problem. I do have the values for it, however (thanks, Wilton!) Thanks for the suggestions. I know the 126 chassis ACC well, so I'm not that far out of my comfort zone, but this system is definitely different, so hopefully someone out there has a diagram... Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Read #2 and #3 here http://www.w124performance.com/service/W126/Index/Misc.htm I think you are right, that the wire from the low pressure switch to the comp is the clutch power wire. With it off at the comp, measure resistance of the terminal on the compressor to ground. Open or near 0 resistance means the coil is bad. (obviously) I don't know what the resistance should be, probably 1.5 to 3 ohms. is a good coil. You could also have someone turn on the AC while you are measuring the voltage of that wire to ground. It should show 12v for a short time, until the system detects the pulley is not turning. It is possible the everything relay replaced the Klima. Or maybe they moved the Klima on that model. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
I have found a reference to the MAS and what it does in the AC manual, but they use that darned breakout box to do the troubleshooting. If I could find a schematic I could figure this out in short order, but the ones I have been looking at are for older models that use the KLIMA relay and not the MAS. Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Read #2 and #3 here http://www.w124performance.com/service/W126/Index/Misc.htm I think you are right, that the wire from the low pressure switch to the comp is the clutch power wire. With it off at the comp, measure resistance of the terminal on the compressor to ground. Open or near 0 resistance means the coil is bad. (obviously) I don't know what the resistance should be, probably 1.5 to 3 ohms. is a good coil. You could also have someone turn on the AC while you are measuring the voltage of that wire to ground. It should show 12v for a short time, until the system detects the pulley is not turning. It is possible the everything relay replaced the Klima. Or maybe they moved the Klima on that model. OK, guys, pile on. I'm in unfamiliar territory here, and could really use some direction: 1992 300E 2.6, complaint is AC compressor won't come on. Original complaint was that the #7 fuse was blowing, killing all ACC related functions. Fuse was replaced, and now ACC functions as expected, that is, fan speeds, doors, heat/defrost, etc. Everything works but the AC compressor. I shorted out the low pressure switch with no result. Checked for power in the harness to the low pressure switch in reference to ground and got nothing. This model has a MAS relay which may or may not play a part in this, but I don't have a schematic, so if anyone does, I would really appreciate you forwarding a copy to me, as that would make my life significantly easier in identifying the problem. If I pull the MAS relay while the car is running the engine dies, as I would expect. Since it's supposed to interface with all sorts of things like the fuel pump and other goodies, it appears to be working as intended, as everything else on the car works perfectly. I have to believe there is a failure in getting a signal to the compressor clutch, but without a diagram I'm swinging in the proverbial wind. I would put B+ to the clutch, but I'm unsure of what wire is which, and I don't want to smoke the speed sensor in the process. From what I can glean, it appears that power comes in, goes through the low pressure switch, and then on to the compressor clutch. That's an educated guess based on what I am seeing, but I'm not tearing harnesses apart, either. There are three wires going to a connector on the top of the compressor, two of which go off in a separate harness that heads up under the air cleaner. The remaining wire goes to one side of the low pressure switch. I am assuming the two that head into the engine harness are for the speed sensor. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Virtualbox
Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik who is trying to get virtualbox up and running Are your having difficulty with VirtualBox? Or the guest OS? My experience with it has been quite good. USB, serial, ethernet, and all software I've tried to use work well in a MS Win guest on my Linux host. I'm even doing some squirrelly things with networking. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] looks like it can be done
I am only intent on getting to see how the engine was popped in clay On Mar 14, 2012, at 9:06 AM, G Mann wrote: I see the pickers have already high-graded parts from the shell The price goes up to put it on the road by geometric scale. Not for me, been there done that.. RIP.. Grant... On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:35 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/2900283062.html Better call to see if the engine still works clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Virtualbox
I use VirtualBox both on my Macs and my work PC. I have several OS' running on each without any issues. What's the problem you're having? Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Fmiser wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik who is trying to get virtualbox up and running Are your having difficulty with VirtualBox? Or the guest OS? My experience with it has been quite good. USB, serial, ethernet, and all software I've tried to use work well in a MS Win guest on my Linux host. I'm even doing some squirrelly things with networking. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Laptop Memory
Thanks Fred, I have one 128mb in there so would only need one more as there are only two places to fill. I will wait a bit to see if anyone else has any 256mb ones and if not then I will take one of yours. I'm trying to run XP so the more memory I can get in there the better. May end up having to go back to 98 anyway but I hope not. Manfred Re: [MBZ] Laptop Memory Fred Moir Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:11:25 -0700 Manfred. If 128mb are of any use, I have two that you may have. PC100-222-620 Out of a Dell Latitude CPX-J Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
Dan, 'Just set you a comp. clutch schematic. Is it the one you need? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue I have found a reference to the MAS and what it does in the AC manual, but they use that darned breakout box to do the troubleshooting. If I could find a schematic I could figure this out in short order, but the ones I have been looking at are for older models that use the KLIMA relay and not the MAS. Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Read #2 and #3 here http://www.w124performance.com/service/W126/Index/Misc.htm I think you are right, that the wire from the low pressure switch to the comp is the clutch power wire. With it off at the comp, measure resistance of the terminal on the compressor to ground. Open or near 0 resistance means the coil is bad. (obviously) I don't know what the resistance should be, probably 1.5 to 3 ohms. is a good coil. You could also have someone turn on the AC while you are measuring the voltage of that wire to ground. It should show 12v for a short time, until the system detects the pulley is not turning. It is possible the everything relay replaced the Klima. Or maybe they moved the Klima on that model. OK, guys, pile on. I'm in unfamiliar territory here, and could really use some direction: 1992 300E 2.6, complaint is AC compressor won't come on. Original complaint was that the #7 fuse was blowing, killing all ACC related functions. Fuse was replaced, and now ACC functions as expected, that is, fan speeds, doors, heat/defrost, etc. Everything works but the AC compressor. I shorted out the low pressure switch with no result. Checked for power in the harness to the low pressure switch in reference to ground and got nothing. This model has a MAS relay which may or may not play a part in this, but I don't have a schematic, so if anyone does, I would really appreciate you forwarding a copy to me, as that would make my life significantly easier in identifying the problem. If I pull the MAS relay while the car is running the engine dies, as I would expect. Since it's supposed to interface with all sorts of things like the fuel pump and other goodies, it appears to be working as intended, as everything else on the car works perfectly. I have to believe there is a failure in getting a signal to the compressor clutch, but without a diagram I'm swinging in the proverbial wind. I would put B+ to the clutch, but I'm unsure of what wire is which, and I don't want to smoke the speed sensor in the process. From what I can glean, it appears that power comes in, goes through the low pressure switch, and then on to the compressor clutch. That's an educated guess based on what I am seeing, but I'm not tearing harnesses apart, either. There are three wires going to a connector on the top of the compressor, two of which go off in a separate harness that heads up under the air cleaner. The remaining wire goes to one side of the low pressure switch. I am assuming the two that head into the engine harness are for the speed sensor. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
Wilton, It's certainly closer to anything I have seen so far. What I recall is that the MAS only had four populated sockets (pins) in the relay socket, which is why I'm confused by the depiction of at least seven connections. I won't get to see the car again until tomorrow morning, but I'll verify what I have against the drawing you sent. At least that way I might be able to do some voltage and continuity checks to narrow things down. Thanks! Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:14 PM, WILTON wrote: Dan, 'Just set you a comp. clutch schematic. Is it the one you need? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue I have found a reference to the MAS and what it does in the AC manual, but they use that darned breakout box to do the troubleshooting. If I could find a schematic I could figure this out in short order, but the ones I have been looking at are for older models that use the KLIMA relay and not the MAS. Dan On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Read #2 and #3 here http://www.w124performance.com/service/W126/Index/Misc.htm I think you are right, that the wire from the low pressure switch to the comp is the clutch power wire. With it off at the comp, measure resistance of the terminal on the compressor to ground. Open or near 0 resistance means the coil is bad. (obviously) I don't know what the resistance should be, probably 1.5 to 3 ohms. is a good coil. You could also have someone turn on the AC while you are measuring the voltage of that wire to ground. It should show 12v for a short time, until the system detects the pulley is not turning. It is possible the everything relay replaced the Klima. Or maybe they moved the Klima on that model. OK, guys, pile on. I'm in unfamiliar territory here, and could really use some direction: 1992 300E 2.6, complaint is AC compressor won't come on. Original complaint was that the #7 fuse was blowing, killing all ACC related functions. Fuse was replaced, and now ACC functions as expected, that is, fan speeds, doors, heat/defrost, etc. Everything works but the AC compressor. I shorted out the low pressure switch with no result. Checked for power in the harness to the low pressure switch in reference to ground and got nothing. This model has a MAS relay which may or may not play a part in this, but I don't have a schematic, so if anyone does, I would really appreciate you forwarding a copy to me, as that would make my life significantly easier in identifying the problem. If I pull the MAS relay while the car is running the engine dies, as I would expect. Since it's supposed to interface with all sorts of things like the fuel pump and other goodies, it appears to be working as intended, as everything else on the car works perfectly. I have to believe there is a failure in getting a signal to the compressor clutch, but without a diagram I'm swinging in the proverbial wind. I would put B+ to the clutch, but I'm unsure of what wire is which, and I don't want to smoke the speed sensor in the process. From what I can glean, it appears that power comes in, goes through the low pressure switch, and then on to the compressor clutch. That's an educated guess based on what I am seeing, but I'm not tearing harnesses apart, either. There are three wires going to a connector on the top of the compressor, two of which go off in a separate harness that heads up under the air cleaner. The remaining wire goes to one side of the low pressure switch. I am assuming the two that head into the engine harness are for the speed sensor. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stupid E320 question for the day
Where do my 1.0L of power steering fluid go in my 210.282 wagon? I see an SLS reservoir, but not the P/S fluid reservoir. The only reference I can find in the many books that came with the car is in the fluid capacities section (which, oddly enough, makes no mention of the SLS fluid) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
That is too long. Hook it up so that you can see the readout, then turn on the switch. the old mechanical VOMS were good for this because you'd see the needle start up, then go back to 0. It will only be a blip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Laptop Memory
I have a new SODIMM, but I can't remember what it is. I will try to dig it out, but it will be mon or tues next week. Thanks Fred, I have one 128mb in there so would only need one more as there are only two places to fill. I will wait a bit to see if anyone else has any 256mb ones and if not then I will take one of yours. I'm trying to run XP so the more memory I can get in there the better. May end up having to go back to 98 anyway but I hope not. Manfred Re: [MBZ] Laptop Memory Fred Moir Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:11:25 -0700 Manfred. If 128mb are of any use, I have two that you may have. PC100-222-620 Out of a Dell Latitude CPX-J Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GulagUSA
Max wrote: Not interesting, his socialist agenda too obvious. She was being interviewed. I agree - a bit socialist. Beside that, take a bat at what is being said? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors
Should'nt all the injectors be balanced? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't follow this completely, but didn't you have low compression in 4 5? Its likely if you had bad injectors there, then they've already done their damage and its time for a rebuild. If you suspect heavy carbon build up or stuck rings, drive it and change the oil frequently. If things don't improve after a few thousand miles and several oil changes, you've got some more serious damage. I'm assuming you've already checked valve clearance and confirmed the glow plugs are good. And what lead you do replace only two injectors? Did you have them all tested? Why not replace all of them? Good luck, Jaime On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I started and ran my '85 300TD a little while ago and it still has a rough idle and smokes upon a cold startup, but warms up in 2-3 min. and then the idle is as smooth as an old diesel will get and the smoking ceases, so there's no change after I changed the #4 5 fuel injectors yesterday. Next step? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
Compressor clutch coils can go bad, they're in a harsh environment. Connectors thereto, also. But it sounds KLIMA-ish to me. The WOT switch can affect the AC too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Laptop memory
I'm slow reading the need for memory, so mine may not help. Have 2X512 if they will work in your 'puter? Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sarah needs a knob
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:40:53 -0400 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: She needs a new steering too, I'll call her. She also needs a new hood star. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
It seems to me that taking off the EGR valve and the football eliminator pipe would make access much easier. Are these necessary for access, or just a convenience for getting the turbo out? I am going to start on this tomorrow. Oil feed line is on top, under the EGR assembly. You will probably need to also remove the 10 mm screw that holds the line to the bracket, and possibly the fitting on the block as well. Not a big deal. The exhaust is connected via some accordioned stainless parts with strap clamps, easy to manage. I'm guessing your oil consumption will go way down with a new one. Peter On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Is there any way to check the drain without taking the drain or the turbo off? My guess is not. I can't imagine the drain getting plugged when M1 is in the engine. I am inclined to order a turbo cartridge and just change it. If the drain is plugged, I could clean and replace and keep the cartridge on a shelf. Where does the oil feed line come in? What other parts are needed or should be replaced when replacing the turbo? Is it necessary to take off the exhaust manifold to take out the turbo? The * forum had a post where someone said taking off the cranckase vent hose decreased pressure in the crankcase and stopped oil leaking into the turbo. Sounds fishy to me on a 603. Since it is now functional, I am inclined to leave it alone until I have all parts in hand. If I tear into it, it might be weeks or months until it gets finished because of the distance involved. Parts needed: 2 or more drain tube o-rings 2 oil drain gaskets EGR block kit. (have that at home but forgot to bring it.) Whatever it takes to insure the oil feed is reliable...(? gaskets? hose? new steel line?) Turbo cartridge kit. (should include necessary parts to change) It is wasting probably 3-4 quarts of oil a week currently. I need to either order parts in the morning or postpone the mess until another trip. No trip is on the horizon until November. 1987 300SDL is the subject. Dieselhead wrote: From no responses, I gather nobody else has had a turbo failure. Is that right? Is it correct that any oil in the compressor is conclusive evidence of seal failure? ...or a plugged drain line. If you plug the drain and feed it oil under pressure, the oil will get into the turbine/compressor housings. I'm pretty sure they don't have contact seals on the shaft, but if the bearings wore out and had radial slop the labyrinth seals would get chewed too and might let oil into the compressor section. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 ACC Issue
So, no Klima on Dan's model. The linked post below makes it appear that the MAS may control A/C functions. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showpost.php?p=126705postcount=13 Post #4 here, says something different: http://mbworld.org/forums/190e-w201/48220-c-compressor-relay-92-190e-2-6-a.html Hmmm... if one of these relays is taking over some Klima functions, I wonder (shooting from the hip) if it works like the Klima does on my '85 W123… if freon pressure is lost, a pressure switch tells the Klima to turn off the compressor solenoid, saving the compressor from damage. I know they changed the configuration and function of this thing many, many times but here's my schematic (all I can find)… maybe it'll jog a memory or point to a possibility until the real schematic appears. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GMQYuBJUv3hTB_4vilWnuB_L548h0FhsE9Lwz-quTRM?feat=directlink Dave SoCal For completion, according to the manual the two other functions on a 1985 W123 Klima are: (1) when the engine is started, the relay keeps the compressor solenoid off until 10 seconds after the engine speed has reached 600 RPM. This improves engine speed stabilization after startup. (2) with engine speed less than 1050 RPM, when the accelerator is floored, the compressor solenoid is released until the engine reaches 2150 RPM or the accelerator is released. This function is controlled by a microswitch on the valve cover. On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Compressor clutch coils can go bad, they're in a harsh environment. Connectors thereto, also. But it sounds KLIMA-ish to me. The WOT switch can affect the AC too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
What is the football eliminator pipe? You don't have to separate the EGR valve from the pipe it bolts to. There are big fat o-rings that keep all those intake pipes together. You probably won't even need to replace them unless they were butchered in the past. But I strongly suggest not bolting anything up on reassembly until you get all the parts back in place first. i.e. Don't bolt parts together until you have the turbo oil drain pipe in place. Its such a PITA to undo everything just to fit something small like that. It may help to put the individual bolts and nuts into zip log backs with a post it note inside the bag so you can keep track of individual parts and what goes where in case you don't get back to reassembly for a few weeks... On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that taking off the EGR valve and the football eliminator pipe would make access much easier. Are these necessary for access, or just a convenience for getting the turbo out? I am going to start on this tomorrow. Oil feed line is on top, under the EGR assembly. You will probably need to also remove the 10 mm screw that holds the line to the bracket, and possibly the fitting on the block as well. Not a big deal. The exhaust is connected via some accordioned stainless parts with strap clamps, easy to manage. I'm guessing your oil consumption will go way down with a new one. Peter On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Is there any way to check the drain without taking the drain or the turbo off? My guess is not. I can't imagine the drain getting plugged when M1 is in the engine. I am inclined to order a turbo cartridge and just change it. If the drain is plugged, I could clean and replace and keep the cartridge on a shelf. Where does the oil feed line come in? What other parts are needed or should be replaced when replacing the turbo? Is it necessary to take off the exhaust manifold to take out the turbo? The * forum had a post where someone said taking off the cranckase vent hose decreased pressure in the crankcase and stopped oil leaking into the turbo. Sounds fishy to me on a 603. Since it is now functional, I am inclined to leave it alone until I have all parts in hand. If I tear into it, it might be weeks or months until it gets finished because of the distance involved. Parts needed: 2 or more drain tube o-rings 2 oil drain gaskets EGR block kit. (have that at home but forgot to bring it.) Whatever it takes to insure the oil feed is reliable...(? gaskets? hose? new steel line?) Turbo cartridge kit. (should include necessary parts to change) It is wasting probably 3-4 quarts of oil a week currently. I need to either order parts in the morning or postpone the mess until another trip. No trip is on the horizon until November. 1987 300SDL is the subject. Dieselhead wrote: From no responses, I gather nobody else has had a turbo failure. Is that right? Is it correct that any oil in the compressor is conclusive evidence of seal failure? ...or a plugged drain line. If you plug the drain and feed it oil under pressure, the oil will get into the turbine/compressor housings. I'm pretty sure they don't have contact seals on the shaft, but if the bearings wore out and had radial slop the labyrinth seals would get chewed too and might let oil into the compressor section. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
Happi Pi Day! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:13:25 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: ... is pretty cool: http://htwins.net/scale2/ Indeed! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:56:05 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: It may help to put the individual bolts and nuts into zip log backs with a post it note inside the bag so you can keep track of individual parts and what goes where in case you don't get back to reassembly for a few weeks... Or take pictures with a digital camera Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Out of ‘hobby’ class, drones lifting off for personal, commercial use
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/14/out-of-hobby-class-drones-lifting-off-for-personal/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
It may help to put the individual bolts and nuts into zip log backs with a post it note inside the bag so you can keep track of individual parts and what goes where in case you don't get back to reassembly for a few weeks... Or take pictures with a digital camera Or both :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
Pie are round! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 3/14/2012 11:03 PM, Craig wrote: Happi Pi Day! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
Thank you! Thank you very much! Happi Pi Day! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
This is a 603, not a 617. All US 603s had a football smog crap over the top of the exhaust manifold. This caused problems, and led to an extended warranty, where the stealer would replace the football with a pipe, and replace the trashed turbo if the football was not replaced before it trashed the turbo. Actually, Andrew's 85 Collyfawnia TD had a football on the 617. On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:56:05 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
I think you're three years early? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:56:26 -0400 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think you're three years early? Depends on whether you are counting two digits or four. Every year has a 3.14. Every century has a 3.14.16. If you're counting the latter, I'm four years early. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:45:11 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you! Thank you very much! Happi Pi Day! BTW, I just noticed I misspelled happy. That was not intentional. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
Max wrote: I think you're three years early? The year belongs at the beginning of the string. ISO8601 date format is such a good idea. 2012-03-14 -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937511
Craig wrote: Happi Pi Day! Dieselhead wrote: Thank you! Thank you very much! Craig then wrote: BTW, I just noticed I misspelled happy. That was not intentional. Be grateful the grammar squad didn't get you!! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
Actually, only the 86 West coast 603's had the football trap oxidizer. All 87's had them. John Sent from my iPad On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This is a 603, not a 617. All US 603s had a football smog crap over the top of the exhaust manifold. This caused problems, and led to an extended warranty, where the stealer would replace the football with a pipe, and replace the trashed turbo if the football was not replaced before it trashed the turbo. Actually, Andrew's 85 Collyfawnia TD had a football on the 617. On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:56:05 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
