Re: [MBZ] Chucktown Nukleer

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

This is one of the largest financial disasters ever. Brought to us by the 
elected fools who approved a law ages ago to allow the utilities to bill ahead 
of and during construction to protect their revenue stream and basically take 
no risk. Our electricity rates have gone up several times and we ratepayers 
will continue to pay for this abandoned project for years to come.  They are 
all corrupt and criminals. 

--R
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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:54 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> I’ve hired a few of those fellers to work out here in the AZ. 
> 
> Bob R
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>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> --R mentioned the local nuclear plant construction situation -
>> interesting, thanks.
>> This is an article about both SC and GA plants... fyi.
>> https://www.enr.com/articles/43325-witness-to-the-origins-of-a-huge-nuclear-construction-flop
>> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] Chucktown Nukleer

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’ve hired a few of those fellers to work out here in the AZ. 

Bob R

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> --R mentioned the local nuclear plant construction situation -
> interesting, thanks.
> This is an article about both SC and GA plants... fyi.
> https://www.enr.com/articles/43325-witness-to-the-origins-of-a-huge-nuclear-construction-flop
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

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My little ordeal was a little different with similar results. 
On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left shoulder 
blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the numbness was 
radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried since the source 
of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not in my chest. So I️ 
messed around all night trying to get comfortable and finally at 0400, I️ went 
to the ER.
When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart attack. 
I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were unwavering say,”” 
“with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not. 
Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the hurt 
go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The cardiologist 
was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart rate she 
wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man my age 
shouldn’t do CrossFit. 
So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, the 
pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve somewhere in 
the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. Still recovering 
from it. PT gal says it was not CF related. 
And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.  

Bob R

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Yep
> 
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>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
>>> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
>>> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
>>> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
>>> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
>>> week after next to check that out.
>>> 
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>> for themselves."
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

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"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with 
> no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know 
> for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She 
> did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making 
> it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to 
> check that out. 
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Your clean bill-of-health is great news, Kaleb.
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Re: [MBZ] Chucktown Nukleer

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The folks down in SC are going to have their taxes go up to pay or this.

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> Thanks, that is interesting.
> --
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> >interesting, thanks.
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> >https://www.enr.com/articles/43325-witness-to-the-origins-
> of-a-huge-nuclear-construction-flop
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Re: [MBZ] Chucktown Nukleer

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks, that is interesting.
-- 
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On November 15, 2017 9:51:23 PM EST, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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>--R mentioned the local nuclear plant construction situation -
>interesting, thanks.
>This is an article about both SC and GA plants... fyi.
>https://www.enr.com/articles/43325-witness-to-the-origins-of-a-huge-nuclear-construction-flop
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max sez:

>Walking is great exercise (and a stress >reliever!), I try to walk for 45
>minutes every work day during my lunch >break. I keep trying to "up" the
>benefit by increasing the difficulty,

‎https://m.ebay.com/itm/HEAVYHANDS-WALKING-BOOK-By-Schwartz-Leonard-Excellent-Condition-/182825581540?nav=SEARCH

Probably best to check out at the library. It's out of print and a bit pricey.

Rick
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[MBZ] Chucktown Nukleer

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R mentioned the local nuclear plant construction situation -
interesting, thanks.
This is an article about both SC and GA plants... fyi.
https://www.enr.com/articles/43325-witness-to-the-origins-of-a-huge-nuclear-construction-flop
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Transmission dipstick

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http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1565510-w210-homemade-dipstick-722-6-transmission.html

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Re: [MBZ] Transmission dipstick

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I found a site online from Poland that makes oil dipsticks for my w211.
Don't trust the computer. I can find their site later.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 15, 2017 8:39 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" 
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> I suppose I could look and see, but it’s easier to ask. Can you buy
> dipsticks for transmissions on W210’s?
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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That does look good - - -

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>
> > On November 15, 2017 at 7:41 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > There is maybe 2" front to back.  The bolt is 8 x 16, so most of an inch
> > is taken by the bolt.  Side to side is about 2 1/2" too.  It is  about
> > 6" up to the bolt hole.
> >
> > No room for any power tool I've ever seen
>
> I think I may have found the majik tool:
> https://www.amazon.com/Wera-05135918001-Kraftform-Kompakt-
> Zyklop/dp/B01CILZXRI
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I think taping the bolt in a gearwrench is the winner.

I did stick the bolt in a socket.  I could get it in, but there was not 
enough room to turn it.  If there was enough room behind the bolt head, 
the hose might work.



Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM
I wonder if a tight-fitting rubber hose would have enough grip on the 
bolt head to get the thread started. I have used a piece of synthetic 
rubber hose to start a nut on the inside firewall of my W123 to attach 
a new brake booster. Worked well.


Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Transmission dipstick

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, it’s a special tool that is used on all the 722.6 vehicles. 

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> I suppose I could look and see, but it’s easier to ask. Can you buy dipsticks 
> for transmissions on W210’s?
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission dipstick

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.amazon.com/Farmunion-transmission-dipstick-mercedes-Dipstick/dp/B01FLIIMZ0

You'll need a red lock clip for the cap on the dipstick tube too. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Transmission dipstick

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I bought one for the ML320 that didn't come with one from Rusty years ago .
. . so I'd guess yes.

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> I suppose I could look and see, but it’s easier to ask. Can you buy
> dipsticks for transmissions on W210’s?
>
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 15, 2017 at 7:41 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is maybe 2" front to back.  The bolt is 8 x 16, so most of an inch 
> is taken by the bolt.  Side to side is about 2 1/2" too.  It is  about 
> 6" up to the bolt hole.
> 
> No room for any power tool I've ever seen

I think I may have found the majik tool:
https://www.amazon.com/Wera-05135918001-Kraftform-Kompakt-Zyklop/dp/B01CILZXRI

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Re: [MBZ] Heart cath

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Fixing to head to the hospital for the heart cath. I will say that after 
> taking the beta blockers for about 4 or 5 days my blood pressure has been 
> back to normal and I have felt fine with symptoms at all. 

Best of luck, Kaleb. There are 2.7 MILLION! heart caths done each year in the 
U.S. and problems are rare. They are the most common procedures done in 
American hospitals. Statistically the biggest risk you will be taking is 
driving to and from the hospital. 
Just be sure and follow the doctors orders exactly after you go home as well as 
in the hospital. If you don't you can have serious problems.

Gerry

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[MBZ] Transmission dipstick

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I suppose I could look and see, but it’s easier to ask. Can you buy dipsticks 
for transmissions on W210’s?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Awww!  The She-Doc sez Kaleb has a big heart!

He'd have to have a big heart to sponsor this group for so many years!

Thanks Kaleb!

Glad it turned out well.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM
Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear 
arteries with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false 
positive. At least we know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely 
from the high blood pressure. She did say it appears my heart is 
enlarged but it could have been the dye making it appear that way. I 
have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to check that out.


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Power Steering Pumps

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I just replaced the seal in the PS pump for the 81 240D.  The kit had 
the seal and 2 orings.  I took off the pulley, pulled the old seal out 
with a small screwdriver and a pick, and pushed in the new seal.  Done.  
Next time I'd do it on the vehicle, and not even take it off of the car.


The old seal had the rubber cracked radially around the shaft.  Should 
replaced it long ago but didn't think it could be so easy!


I didn't need to pull the shaft, so I didn't need the orings.  The big 
one is for the back plate.


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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I wonder if a tight-fitting rubber hose would have enough grip on the bolt head 
to get the thread started. I have used a piece of synthetic rubber hose to 
start a nut on the inside firewall of my W123 to attach a new brake booster. 
Worked well.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

There is maybe 2" front to back.  The bolt is 8 x 16, so most of an inch is 
taken by the bolt.  Side to side is about 2 1/2" too.  It is  about 6" up to 
the bolt hole.

No room for any power tool I've ever seen

> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  November 15, 
> 2017 at 7:33 AM I think Gerry is onto something here.
> Can you stick it in a stubby GearWrench and wiggle the wrench while 
> pushing the bolt into the hole with your thumb?
> Or can some sort of 1/4" drive power tool reach the hole and you only 
> have to hit the go button?
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I shot summadem skeets once. Damn things was tough as could be when I tried to 
cook em up. 

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yup!   When I was in HS, one of my friends knew a pair of brothers who had a 
> construction company and had 2 houses with a shared driveway.  Between the 
> houses was what looked like a 2 car garage, but it was their private trap 
> club. They let us go there whenever we wanted to shoot trap.  We went so 
> often that I had to start reloading 12 ga.   It was a blast.
> 
> Find a range that will rent the hardware to you.
> 
> I started when I was maybe 8 or 10 at the county fair.  They had a sideshow 
> booth with winchester 98 or 06 pump 22 short only rifles.  I think they used 
> cb caps.Then came marksmanship merit badge at the Boy Scout camp using 
> single shot bolt gummit rifles at 11.   The skills learned then still hold.
> 
> TRY IT!  You'll LOVE IT!   Shoulder, hand, or trap, skeet, or "sporting clays"
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> November 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM
>> So here is a thought to our anti-gun colleague:
>> 
>> Whether you would want to carry or own or use a gun, going to the range and 
>> shooting can be very relaxing in an interesting way. When you are shooting 
>> you need to clear your head of extraneous thoughts and focus totally on what 
>> you are doing -- loading the weapon, handling the weapon, aiming, holding, 
>> shooting, and adjusting as necessary to hit your target.  It becomes very 
>> "zen"-like as you really do clear out all the nagging thoughts that stay 
>> with you as you go about your business during the day. I find that I leave 
>> the range with this very calm sense of things having focused for an hour or 
>> so on that activity to the exclusion of everything else.  If you go with a 
>> friend you can compare your performance and guns and have some comradery in 
>> that way too.
>> 
>> It is not particularly intimidating, though you might feel "uncomfortable" 
>> around men and women who have some skills around use of guns.  You might 
>> also find out they are nice people and would do anything for you, even if 
>> you wore your H-> or Feel the Bern shirt.
>> 
>> But YMMV though you might want to give it a try sometime, you might be 
>> surprised that you actually have some fun and could (horrors!) enjoy it!
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yup!   When I was in HS, one of my friends knew a pair of brothers who 
had a construction company and had 2 houses with a shared driveway.  
Between the houses was what looked like a 2 car garage, but it was their 
private trap club. They let us go there whenever we wanted to shoot 
trap.  We went so often that I had to start reloading 12 ga.   It was a 
blast.


Find a range that will rent the hardware to you.

I started when I was maybe 8 or 10 at the county fair.  They had a 
sideshow booth with winchester 98 or 06 pump 22 short only rifles.  I 
think they used cb caps.Then came marksmanship merit badge at the 
Boy Scout camp using single shot bolt gummit rifles at 11.   The skills 
learned then still hold.


TRY IT!  You'll LOVE IT!   Shoulder, hand, or trap, skeet, or "sporting 
clays"



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM
So here is a thought to our anti-gun colleague:

Whether you would want to carry or own or use a gun, going to the 
range and shooting can be very relaxing in an interesting way. When 
you are shooting you need to clear your head of extraneous thoughts 
and focus totally on what you are doing -- loading the weapon, 
handling the weapon, aiming, holding, shooting, and adjusting as 
necessary to hit your target.  It becomes very "zen"-like as you 
really do clear out all the nagging thoughts that stay with you as you 
go about your business during the day. I find that I leave the range 
with this very calm sense of things having focused for an hour or so 
on that activity to the exclusion of everything else.  If you go with 
a friend you can compare your performance and guns and have some 
comradery in that way too.


It is not particularly intimidating, though you might feel 
"uncomfortable" around men and women who have some skills around use 
of guns.  You might also find out they are nice people and would do 
anything for you, even if you wore your H-> or Feel the Bern shirt.


But YMMV though you might want to give it a try sometime, you might be 
surprised that you actually have some fun and could (horrors!) enjoy it!


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Most of my cars make the uptight owners all fizzy inside when I park.  It seems 
to offend their aesthetics

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Nov 15, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Was that a Freudian slip? You DO have a reputation for being cheap. As do 
> most of the members of this list!
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:19 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC
> 
> It.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2017 4:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:
> 
> Wash it up real good, and put a sign in the window selling it for $9995. I 
> will be way cheaper than any of the Lambos and Ferraris.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2017 3:56 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C this 
>> weekend just to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen 
>> Ferraris and Lambos and other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some 
>> glowing purple prose about it to put in the window. Maybe the $500 
>> E300 dizzel too just for grins, smoke up the place. The daughter unit could 
>> take her E320 over too.
>> Hell even the 300SD, have a whole stable over there. Probably give the 
>> swells palpitations having those things there. Or maybe not.
>> 
>> There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun.
>> 
>> —R 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Get a good electrician.  He may let you put in outlets, switches, 
covers, etc. to save some money.   He will git er done faster than you 
can buy the supplies.



Donald Snook via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 10:41 AM
Kaleb wrote:

"Have fun"


Has anyone had a whole house rewired? That's the project I am most 
anxious about.


Don Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, yes.   Toada drivers in general are poor drivers.


Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 9:18 AM


Just like the Tesla/Leaf et al. are actually Remote _Emissions_ Vehicles,
the piouses are Remote _Accident_ Vehicles?



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Re: [MBZ] Heart cath

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Good luck and best wishes.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 8:59 AM
Fixing to head to the hospital for the heart cath. I will say that 
after taking the beta blockers for about 4 or 5 days my blood pressure 
has been back to normal and I have felt fine with symptoms at all.




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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There is maybe 2" front to back.  The bolt is 8 x 16, so most of an inch 
is taken by the bolt.  Side to side is about 2 1/2" too.  It is  about 
6" up to the bolt hole.


No room for any power tool I've ever seen


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 7:33 AM
I think Gerry is onto something here.
Can you stick it in a stubby GearWrench and wiggle the wrench while 
pushing the bolt into the hole with your thumb?
Or can some sort of 1/4" drive power tool reach the hole and you only 
have to hit the go button?





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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hmmm,  a 13 mm gear wrench might work.   I might have to find one.


archer75--- via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 7:11 AM


I've used both an open and closed end wrench. I washed both the bolt 
and the wrench with a strong solvent such as brake cleaner so there 
would be no oil or grease, cut a piece of masking or similar sticky 
tape to fit one side of the wrench, wrapping it down over the sides of 
the wrench if possible, then stuck the bolt head in the open side and 
stuck it firmly to the tape.
I hoped to get one thread caught, but if not, I would change the 
position of the bolt head in the wrench and try again.
Nowadays I'd buy a "rachet end wrench" (I think I saw them at Lowes) 
and try using them with the tape like above. I've had to grind end 
wrenches down pretty thin to get into some tight places when I was 
repairing hospital and lab equipment.


Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hey! you pig, THEY are "saving the planet!"


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 5:52 AM
I have to agree with Curley. Most of the Priii I see around my area 
are blowing past me on the interstate. In fact, I noticed one earlier 
this week during my commute that came up on me almost instantly. I 
expected it to be a very different car based on the speed it was 
approaching at. I usually do about 68 mph (speed limit is 65). They 
were easily doing in excess of 80.


Made me scratch my head.

-D



Only problem with their thinking is that your SDL saved the planet more 
than a pius will.

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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Fresh out   Not sure that would work either...


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 5:36 AM

A ten year old boy?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

 I did a major upgrade/addition to my 1854 (with 1906 addition) house. 
The contractor wanted to pull down all the plaster/lath so his electrician 
could rewire existing rooms.  Hell NO! As a compromise, he wired all the new 
stuff and I replaced the existing knob and tube (plus a lot of old or 
undersize Romex) with new Romex.  Adding outlets, etc. in plaster/lath was a 
pain so I only added two outlets to each upstairs bedroom; those rooms are 
seldom used.  If you haven't done it, there is a huge pile of cement chunks 
inside those old walls from the initial scratch coat over the lath.  My 
builder/electrician installed a new breaker panel so I just left long Romex 
ends for him to connect to the new CB box when he got to that point in the 
job.
 There have been numerous recent changes (like AFCI breakers) in the new 
code so best review a recent book before any DIY work.
 I also added a standby generator; while rewiring was the best time to 
do that.  My generator transfer switch feeds a 100 amp subpanel for 
important loads.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Donald
> ...
> Has anyone had a whole house rewired?   That's the project I am most 
> anxious
> about.
>
> Don Snook
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had a neighbor who was our family pediatrician that taught me biofeedback.  I 
didn’t buy into it at first until she showed me how to do it and actually saw 
the results.

Keep in mind that if you’re seriously stressed or have other medical issues it 
won’t make a significant difference, or maybe have no effect at all.  There are 
limitations.

-D


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should try the biofeedback -- my pulse has always been fast (about 
> 100 resting) and BP has been 140 over 70 and up since I was in college.
> 
> Runs in the family, too, my niece is exactly the same, and when they stuff 
> enough medicine down me to lower it, I pass out and can't think.  
> 
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

 I did a major upgrade/addition to my 1854 (with 1906 addition) house. The 
contractor wanted to pull down all the plaster/lath so his electrician could 
rewire existing rooms.  Hell NO! As a compromise, he wired all the new stuff 
and I replaced the existing knob and tube (plus a lot of old or undersize 
Romex) with new Romex.  Adding outlets, etc. in plaster/lath was a pain so I 
only added two outlets to each upstairs bedroom; those rooms are seldom used.  
If you haven't done it, there is a huge pile of cement chunks inside those old 
walls from the initial scratch coat over the lath.  My builder/electrician 
installed a new breaker panel so I just left long Romex ends for him to connect 
to the new CB box when he got to that point in the job.
 There have been numerous recent changes (like AFCI breakers) in the new 
code so best review a recent book before any DIY work.
 I also added a standby generator; while rewiring was the best time to do 
that.  My generator transfer switch feeds a 100 amp subpanel for important 
loads.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Donald
> ...
> Has anyone had a whole house rewired?   That's the project I am most anxious
> about.
> 
> Don Snook
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Maybe I should try the biofeedback -- my pulse has always been fast (about 100 
resting) and BP has been 140 over 70 and up since I was in college.

Runs in the family, too, my niece is exactly the same, and when they stuff 
enough medicine down me to lower it, I pass out and can't think.  

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Good report, except for the enlarged heart -- sounds a great deal like my 
experience a couple years ago.

The echo cardiogram will tell all -- including thickened walls from chronic 
high BP, viral damage (which was my problem), and any valve issues.

If you get a chance to watch (sometimes you do, sometimes you don't get to see 
the screen), look for how the ventricles contract.  Normal "ejection fraction" 
-- the fraction of the blood actually pumped out each beat -- is 55% to 60%.  
You should see the left ventricle "collapse in" on itself and squeeze the blood 
out nicely, with the walls becoming convex toward the cavity.  When I was 
really sick, my left ventricle looked like a water balloon and wasn't 
contracting very well at all, and was well above normal size.  Everything else 
was fine, and I had good turbulence, so no blood thinners.

Last time I was in, just about two years ago, all was back to near normal.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
>> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
>> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
>> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
>> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
>> week after next to check that out.
>> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] OT: Heartwarming firearm story of the week

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/11/luis-valdes/90-year-old-marine-reunited-with-his-wwii-m1-garand-73-years-later/

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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
> week after next to check that out.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's because you do your shooting at a "range". Bubba shoots in his (or
someone else's) backyard. He doesn't pay to go somewhere to shoot, just
steps out the back door. I don't consider myself "Bubba", but that's how I
shoot - step out the back door and shoot at the pile of 12" and larger logs
stacked three deep, with no one living on the other side.
I hear gunfire almost every day around here, once recently was most likely
a bump-stock. I haven't heard it this week, probably because he is saving
up for another case of ammo . . .

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> While I firmly believe it’s up to every individual’s choice as to whether
> they want to have guns or not, I will say…
>
> I have really been impressed with the camaraderie and willingness to offer
> assistance and guidance by everyone I’ve shot with or around.  The outdoor
> range I shoot at weekly has four RSOs (Range Security Officers), all of
> whom know my name, know what I shoot, and either stand in back out of the
> way or gladly step up if I have questions about what I’m doing.  All are
> highly trained instructors and several are former military.  They’re all
> very gracious, have never been critical (except for constructive purposes)
> and seem just as happy to stay in the wings or step up and offer assistance
> when requested.
>
> Many of the sporting clays folks I’ve shot with or around are much the
> same way.
>
> I was working on my sight weld by myself on the sporting clays range the
> other day.  My range has automated controllers that will throw clays for
> you with a delay so you can shoot alone - you set the delays and just push
> the button.  On three different occasions I had shooters who were walking
> by my stand, two of which were leaving for the day, who offered to pull the
> clays for me if I needed.  I never once asked for assistance or even saw a
> couple of them as they walked by.
>
> The stereotype of the crazed AK carrying redneck with his Budweiser and
> trucker’s hat is really a joke.  Of all the shooting folks I’ve been
> around, I have never encountered any “bubbas”, and the few that might be
> close to that were just as safety minded and gracious as the others….
>
> -D
>
>
>


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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve always had a fairly low resting pulse and blood pressure.  Just had an 
insurance company workup this morning and my resting pulse was 52 and my BP was 
101 over 57.

When I was younger I did a lot of biofeedback to keep my pulse rate down.  It’s 
worked well for me ever since.  If I feel myself getting stressed I can get my 
BP and pulse rate back down pretty quick.

-D

 
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, just focused.  Anyone can do this, one simply needs to decide that
> health is important.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> You are not human. You are a machine!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, just focused.  Anyone can do this, one simply needs to decide that
health is important.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You are not human. You are a machine!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You are not human. You are a machine!

RB

On 15/11/2017 4:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Walking is great exercise (and a stress reliever!), I try to walk for 45
minutes every work day during my lunch break.  I keep trying to "up" the
benefit by increasing the difficulty, I've added ankle weights and carry
dumbells, and now I've found a place along my route that I can do some
pull-ups.  I think the next logical step is to carry a ruck and
progressively add weight until that is up to about 50 lbs or so.

My resting pulse is 55 bpm, last time I checked on the automated blood
pressure machine in my building: 98 over 50something.

-
Max
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Walking is great exercise (and a stress reliever!), I try to walk for 45
minutes every work day during my lunch break.  I keep trying to "up" the
benefit by increasing the difficulty, I've added ankle weights and carry
dumbells, and now I've found a place along my route that I can do some
pull-ups.  I think the next logical step is to carry a ruck and
progressively add weight until that is up to about 50 lbs or so.

My resting pulse is 55 bpm, last time I checked on the automated blood
pressure machine in my building: 98 over 50something.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I took daily half hour walks in the four months between my first stress
> test and the nuclear test. My pulse hit 176 in the initial test. At the
> start of the treadmill session where they injected the dye, they told me
> that they'd take me to the same stress level as in my original test. When
> we got to where they halted my first test, my pulse was about 150, and I
> could talk at a conversational level. "Hey, what are you shutting me down
> now for, I'm not even beginning to feel stressed". Cardiologist swore that
> a pulse of 150 was plenty stressful, and that the test conclusively showed
> no cardiac damage.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Question for the medically inclined members of the list:

Would a nuclear stress test have given similar information to what Kaleb 
learned today, or is that for a different set of symptoms?

I'm thinking my stress test was probably less stressful than Kaleb's roto 
rooter job, but if something was wrong, they could have fixed Kaleb during the 
testing. 

One odd thing about my nuclear stress test:
I took daily half hour walks in the four months between my first stress test 
and the nuclear test. My pulse hit 176 in the initial test. At the start of the 
treadmill session where they injected the dye, they told me that they'd take me 
to the same stress level as in my original test. When we got to where they 
halted my first test, my pulse was about 150, and I could talk at a 
conversational level. "Hey, what are you shutting me down now for, I'm not even 
beginning to feel stressed". Cardiologist swore that a pulse of 150 was plenty 
stressful, and that the test conclusively showed no cardiac damage. 
I'm still alive 2 years later, so I must be OK. 
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/nuclear-stress-test/basics/definition/PRC-20012978

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Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Was that a Freudian slip? You DO have a reputation for being cheap. As do most 
of the members of this list!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

It.

On Nov 15, 2017 4:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

Wash it up real good, and put a sign in the window selling it for $9995. I will 
be way cheaper than any of the Lambos and Ferraris.

On Nov 15, 2017 3:56 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C this 
> weekend just to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen 
> Ferraris and Lambos and other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some 
> glowing purple prose about it to put in the window. Maybe the $500 
> E300 dizzel too just for grins, smoke up the place. The daughter unit could 
> take her E320 over too.
> Hell even the 300SD, have a whole stable over there. Probably give the 
> swells palpitations having those things there. Or maybe not.
>
> There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Good News!

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:58 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] The cath is done

Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with no 
blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know for 
sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She did 
say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making it 
appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to check 
that out. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It.

On Nov 15, 2017 4:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

Wash it up real good, and put a sign in the window selling it for $9995. I
will be way cheaper than any of the Lambos and Ferraris.

On Nov 15, 2017 3:56 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C this weekend
> just to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen Ferraris and
> Lambos and other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some glowing purple prose
> about it to put in the window. Maybe the $500 E300 dizzel too just for
> grins, smoke up the place. The daughter unit could take her E320 over too.
> Hell even the 300SD, have a whole stable over there. Probably give the
> swells palpitations having those things there. Or maybe not.
>
> There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun.
>
> --R
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[MBZ] The cath is done

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

  I went through all of this last year only to be given a beta blocker to 
use only when needed and some low dose blood pressure medicine.  Some doctors 
love tests.  Stress causes all of us more problems than anything else.  It 
would seem that with your house issues, job move decisions, wife's wrecks, etc, 
you've probably been under a lot of stress.  Find a way to "hide" somewhere, 
breath deep, close your eyes, and just relax.  It will be cheaper and you'll 
feel much better.

Glad your news was good,

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 15, 2017 at 3:58 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with 
> no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know 
> for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She 
> did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making 
> it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to 
> check that out. 

Now that you're done with that, you wanna go drag Regina's car home?
http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/photos-36-9.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wash it up real good, and put a sign in the window selling it for $9995. I
will be way cheaper than any of the Lambos and Ferraris.

On Nov 15, 2017 3:56 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C this weekend
> just to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen Ferraris and
> Lambos and other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some glowing purple prose
> about it to put in the window. Maybe the $500 E300 dizzel too just for
> grins, smoke up the place. The daughter unit could take her E320 over too.
> Hell even the 300SD, have a whole stable over there. Probably give the
> swells palpitations having those things there. Or maybe not.
>
> There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll help you get the wagon moved over there, put a price tag of $10k on it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C this weekend
> just to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen Ferraris and
> Lambos and other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some glowing purple prose
> about it to put in the window. Maybe the $500 E300 dizzel too just for
> grins, smoke up the place. The daughter unit could take her E320 over too.
> Hell even the 300SD, have a whole stable over there. Probably give the
> swells palpitations having those things there. Or maybe not.
>
> There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Awesome, thanks for the good news!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
> week after next to check that out.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Power Steering Pumps

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I might have one I can send you. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> In looking for a replacement for the leaking pump on our '90 300D, I ran
> across some information on the Internet that a '90 300E uses the same
> power steering pump as a '90 300D.
> 
> Would someone who has access to the EPC please check this out?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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> '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (the Big Red Van,
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>  Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
> '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi
> 
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> '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Why is a 617 labeled a 460?  I don’t understand the Benz numbering system. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh yeah baby, that's what I need
> 
> -
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[MBZ] The cath is done

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with no 
blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know for 
sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She did 
say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making it 
appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to check 
that out. 

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C this weekend just 
to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen Ferraris and Lambos and 
other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some glowing purple prose about it to put 
in the window. Maybe the $500 E300 dizzel too just for grins, smoke up the 
place. The daughter unit could take her E320 over too. Hell even the 300SD, 
have a whole stable over there. Probably give the swells palpitations having 
those things there. Or maybe not. 

There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun. 

--R
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Power Steering Pumps

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Wouldn’t all that series use the same pump, or the same pump body maybe with 
different guts from different manufacturers? I swapped the pump off the 86 or 
so 420SEL onto the 89 SEC and they looked the same but were different brands. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> In looking for a replacement for the leaking pump on our '90 300D, I ran
> across some information on the Internet that a '90 300E uses the same
> power steering pump as a '90 300D.
> 
> Would someone who has access to the EPC please check this out?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> --
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> '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (the Big Red Van,
>   affectionately dubbed the BRV)
>   207 kmi
> '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi  For sale!
>  Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
> '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi
> 
> Past:'82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
> '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
> '86 190E/2.3
> '72 220/8
> '64 190Dc  Emma
> '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Oh yeah baby, that's what I need

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Power Steering Pumps

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig,

I was helping Larry with just this issue, and the FSM has a "survey"
section that describes all the engines and pumps.  The section is 46-0002.
Between that and the model chart here (under MB Workshop Resources):

https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/doclist.jsp

One can suss out which pumps from which cars are interchangeable.


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Power Steering Pumps

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

We just went through this with Larry, who has a broken mounting ear on his 
2.5's steering pump.

I found some used pumps on Car-Part.com for $25-100.

On 11/07/2017 3:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Larry, in the FSM procedure 46-0002 is the survey of power steering pumps
for 124 cars.

Your turbo OM602 should have either Vickers or ZF pump with a red label for
opening pressure of 110 +/- 5 bar (green label on a used pump will not be
the same spec, so I'd avoid those).

Other MB cars with the same pump / same pressure:
124 cars with M103, M104, OM603 turbo [so 1987 300D models], OM606
non-turbo [1995 E300 model], M119 LH(? left hand drive?)
129 cars with M103, M104 up to 06/93, M119 up to 09/92
202 cars with M104

I'm pretty sure some of the gasser engine pumps will have a remote
reservoir, so you may have to swap some parts from your pump onto those
pumps to make them work? If you can pick one up cheap, might be worth
experimenting. I would have tried that in a pinch, but I ended up finding
a good used pump from a gasser wagon that had the dual circuit feature.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Thanks, Greg.

As a matter of fact, I have done these drills with other pistols, my Walther 
PPQ and others.  Rack, smack and aim/fire.  I don’t have any snap caps for the 
.22, since I’m not going to be using this pistol much. I just want to be sure 
it’s sorted 100% before I hand it off to the wife.

Everyone has offered some great things as far as technique. I’m going to start 
drilling on this stuff in the next day or two.

-D

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you done any "ball and dummy" drills? Load a mag with some live rounds 
> and some snap caps. See what happens when the snap cap is in the chamber when 
> you pull the trigger. This reveals a lot of technique errors. 
> 
> Also, not having your wrist joint in a direct line along the axis of the 
> barrel will flip your shots to the side.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:25 AM
> To: Mercedes List
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase
> 
> Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.
> 
> I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m 
> figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming points. 
>  That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve got a package 
> of the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t need them 
> (until now.)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go to 
>>> the range.
>> 
>> Why wait for a range trip?
>> Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand placement 
>> from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the trigger?
>> 
>> Mitch.
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[MBZ] W124 Power Steering Pumps

[Craig via Mercedes]

In looking for a replacement for the leaking pump on our '90 300D, I ran
across some information on the Internet that a '90 300E uses the same
power steering pump as a '90 300D.

Would someone who has access to the EPC please check this out?

Thank you,


Craig

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   207 kmi
 '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi  For sale!
  Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
 '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi

Past:'82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
 '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

While I firmly believe it’s up to every individual’s choice as to whether they 
want to have guns or not, I will say…

I have really been impressed with the camaraderie and willingness to offer 
assistance and guidance by everyone I’ve shot with or around.  The outdoor 
range I shoot at weekly has four RSOs (Range Security Officers), all of whom 
know my name, know what I shoot, and either stand in back out of the way or 
gladly step up if I have questions about what I’m doing.  All are highly 
trained instructors and several are former military.  They’re all very 
gracious, have never been critical (except for constructive purposes) and seem 
just as happy to stay in the wings or step up and offer assistance when 
requested.

Many of the sporting clays folks I’ve shot with or around are much the same way.

I was working on my sight weld by myself on the sporting clays range the other 
day.  My range has automated controllers that will throw clays for you with a 
delay so you can shoot alone - you set the delays and just push the button.  On 
three different occasions I had shooters who were walking by my stand, two of 
which were leaving for the day, who offered to pull the clays for me if I 
needed.  I never once asked for assistance or even saw a couple of them as they 
walked by.

The stereotype of the crazed AK carrying redneck with his Budweiser and 
trucker’s hat is really a joke.  Of all the shooting folks I’ve been around, I 
have never encountered any “bubbas”, and the few that might be close to that 
were just as safety minded and gracious as the others….

-D


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So here is a thought to our anti-gun colleague:
> 
> Whether you would want to carry or own or use a gun, going to the range and 
> shooting can be very relaxing in an interesting way. When you are shooting 
> you need to clear your head of extraneous thoughts and focus totally on what 
> you are doing -- loading the weapon, handling the weapon, aiming, holding, 
> shooting, and adjusting as necessary to hit your target.  It becomes very 
> "zen"-like as you really do clear out all the nagging thoughts that stay with 
> you as you go about your business during the day. I find that I leave the 
> range with this very calm sense of things having focused for an hour or so on 
> that activity to the exclusion of everything else.  If you go with a friend 
> you can compare your performance and guns and have some comradery in that way 
> too.
> 
> It is not particularly intimidating, though you might feel "uncomfortable" 
> around men and women who have some skills around use of guns.  You might also 
> find out they are nice people and would do anything for you, even if you wore 
> your H-> or Feel the Bern shirt.
> 
> But YMMV though you might want to give it a try sometime, you might be 
> surprised that you actually have some fun and could (horrors!) enjoy it!
> 
> --FT
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Have you done any "ball and dummy" drills? Load a mag with some live rounds and 
some snap caps. See what happens when the snap cap is in the chamber when you 
pull the trigger. This reveals a lot of technique errors. 

Also, not having your wrist joint in a direct line along the axis of the barrel 
will flip your shots to the side.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.

I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m 
figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming points.  
That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve got a package of 
the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t need them (until 
now.)

Thanks!

Dan

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go to the 
>> range.
> 
> Why wait for a range trip?
> Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand placement 
> from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the trigger?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So here is a thought to our anti-gun colleague:

Whether you would want to carry or own or use a gun, going to the range 
and shooting can be very relaxing in an interesting way. When you are 
shooting you need to clear your head of extraneous thoughts and focus 
totally on what you are doing -- loading the weapon, handling the 
weapon, aiming, holding, shooting, and adjusting as necessary to hit 
your target.  It becomes very "zen"-like as you really do clear out all 
the nagging thoughts that stay with you as you go about your business 
during the day. I find that I leave the range with this very calm sense 
of things having focused for an hour or so on that activity to the 
exclusion of everything else.  If you go with a friend you can compare 
your performance and guns and have some comradery in that way too.


It is not particularly intimidating, though you might feel 
"uncomfortable" around men and women who have some skills around use of 
guns.  You might also find out they are nice people and would do 
anything for you, even if you wore your H-> or Feel the Bern shirt.


But YMMV though you might want to give it a try sometime, you might be 
surprised that you actually have some fun and could (horrors!) enjoy it!


--FT


On 11/15/17 2:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

That's very difficult with a green plastic water pistol thugh with
practice I will get the hang of it..

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:07 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


Try this dry fire drill to improve trigger position and target.

1. Clear the weapon, remove ammo from dry fire room. Be safe.

2. Put a sticky note on the wall at sight height, with a small X on it.

3. Stand in firing stance, with your proper grip and finger position on
trigger, muzzle of gun 4 inches from the "X" . acquire proper sight
picture with focus on front sight and X Squeeze trigger to take up
slack to "release point" while holding sight picture... then squeeze past
release point to hammer fall, while staying focused on sight picture.

If you are "pulling the weapon with the trigger" you will observe it right
away using this drill.

Adjust stance, grip, and trigger finger to gain precision and practice
[it's cheap, no ammo used.]
The more you practice up close, the tighter you will hold on the "X" up
close... when you feel good at 4 inches... back up to 12 and start over
repeat often

Enjoy be safe.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.

I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m
figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming
points.  That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve

got a

package of the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t

need

them (until now.)

Thanks!

Dan


On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:



On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go

to the range.

Why wait for a range trip?
Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand

placement from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the
trigger?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] He Should Put This on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/europe/pope-new-car-for-charity-trnd/index.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Have you sold your old house?


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-11-15  9:02 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Donald Snook  
Subject: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase 
I remember a while back, Kaleb posted a link to an old house for a possible 
flip.  I am moving 60 miles to a new town and have decided to purchase an old 
home that needs rehab.  A client of mine is a developer and one his employees 
purchased a house a few months ago for a flip.  They had some personal 
relationship problems and now have to get rid of the house.  The style is 
called an American FourSquare.  They bought the house and replaced some 
windows, did some minor repairs, redid a bathroom, and did paint work.  They 
also demoed the kitchen down to the studs.   I am getting it for less than they 
bought it.   But, it will need to have the entire house re-wired as it still 
has knob and tube throughout.  We will need to add a bathroom (in a laundry 
room where there is already plumbing), drywall the kitchen, add cabinets, 
countertops, etc, and replace two exterior doors.   They were living in the 
house (the bathroom is functional and just needs finish work.  They were 
cooking in a microwave.  It should be a very interesting project!

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's very difficult with a green plastic water pistol thugh with
practice I will get the hang of it..

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:07 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Try this dry fire drill to improve trigger position and target.
>
> 1. Clear the weapon, remove ammo from dry fire room. Be safe.
>
> 2. Put a sticky note on the wall at sight height, with a small X on it.
>
> 3. Stand in firing stance, with your proper grip and finger position on
> trigger, muzzle of gun 4 inches from the "X" . acquire proper sight
> picture with focus on front sight and X Squeeze trigger to take up
> slack to "release point" while holding sight picture... then squeeze past
> release point to hammer fall, while staying focused on sight picture.
>
> If you are "pulling the weapon with the trigger" you will observe it right
> away using this drill.
>
> Adjust stance, grip, and trigger finger to gain precision and practice
> [it's cheap, no ammo used.]
> The more you practice up close, the tighter you will hold on the "X" up
> close... when you feel good at 4 inches... back up to 12 and start over
> repeat often
>
> Enjoy be safe.
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.
> >
> > I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m
> > figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming
> > points.  That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve
> got a
> > package of the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t
> need
> > them (until now.)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > > On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go
> > to the range.
> > >
> > > Why wait for a range trip?
> > > Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand
> > placement from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the
> > trigger?
> > >
> > > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Try this dry fire drill to improve trigger position and target.

1. Clear the weapon, remove ammo from dry fire room. Be safe.

2. Put a sticky note on the wall at sight height, with a small X on it.

3. Stand in firing stance, with your proper grip and finger position on
trigger, muzzle of gun 4 inches from the "X" . acquire proper sight
picture with focus on front sight and X Squeeze trigger to take up
slack to "release point" while holding sight picture... then squeeze past
release point to hammer fall, while staying focused on sight picture.

If you are "pulling the weapon with the trigger" you will observe it right
away using this drill.

Adjust stance, grip, and trigger finger to gain precision and practice
[it's cheap, no ammo used.]
The more you practice up close, the tighter you will hold on the "X" up
close... when you feel good at 4 inches... back up to 12 and start over
repeat often

Enjoy be safe.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.
>
> I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m
> figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming
> points.  That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve got a
> package of the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t need
> them (until now.)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
>
> > On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go
> to the range.
> >
> > Why wait for a range trip?
> > Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand
> placement from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the
> trigger?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Now this I can relate to.  For our community  Halloween party I was
costumed as an Aussie cattle driver, complete with new jeans,  western
shirt, and sting ray leather boots; and an Aussie leather-brimmed
driver's hat.  I portrayed as an apprentice who was not yet certified to
carry a real pistol or whip.  Instead, I wielded a cat toy on a string
(which I snapped menacingly) and a green empty water pistol (not ready to
pack a loaded pistol).  I won the party prize for "most compelling" .Ka
CHA! [sound of a whip snapping]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would always put the trigger in the middle of my trigger finger pad
> (midway between finger tip and first joint).  What I was taught was that a
> group to the left of the bulls-eye probably means you're trigger finger is
> too deep, and the trigger is either at or on the crease at the first
> joint.  However, there could be other variables (hand positions, trigger
> pull smooth vs. jerking, anticipating the recoil and trying to compensate
> with a muscle movement, breathing wrong, etc), and in the end (if the
> sights are adjustable) you could simply adjust the sites to bring the group
> back to the bulls-eye.  It is more important to do exactly the same thing
> every time you shoot, so your groups are as tight as possible, and then you
> adjust the sites so that the group is hitting where you want it to hit.
>
> Stop comparing how the pistol shoots when "benched" because that's not how
> you're going to shoot all the time.  Benching it and shooting has no value
> because that's not how you will shoot the pistol "in real life".  Learn
> proper stance, hand positions, site alignment, trigger pull, and breathing,
> get those all consistent with every shoot, and then adjust the sites and
> you're done.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I would always put the trigger in the middle of my trigger finger pad
(midway between finger tip and first joint).  What I was taught was that a
group to the left of the bulls-eye probably means you're trigger finger is
too deep, and the trigger is either at or on the crease at the first
joint.  However, there could be other variables (hand positions, trigger
pull smooth vs. jerking, anticipating the recoil and trying to compensate
with a muscle movement, breathing wrong, etc), and in the end (if the
sights are adjustable) you could simply adjust the sites to bring the group
back to the bulls-eye.  It is more important to do exactly the same thing
every time you shoot, so your groups are as tight as possible, and then you
adjust the sites so that the group is hitting where you want it to hit.

Stop comparing how the pistol shoots when "benched" because that's not how
you're going to shoot all the time.  Benching it and shooting has no value
because that's not how you will shoot the pistol "in real life".  Learn
proper stance, hand positions, site alignment, trigger pull, and breathing,
get those all consistent with every shoot, and then adjust the sites and
you're done.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:56:57 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> One excellent resource is
> http://thecraftsmanblog.com/living-in-the-past/

And of course you need a plan!

http://thecraftsmanblog.com/building-restoration-plan/



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

That is pretty pessimistic.
I do think that if one plans to do much of the work, then one needs to 
enjoy doing that sort of thing.
We moved into a new house in 1981 and have been remodelling it ever 
since. We wanted a house that looked old but were concerned about the 
troubles that might be encountered in an old house.
In retrospect, an old house would have been fine - maybe even better 
than a new house.


RB

On 15/11/2017 11:49 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I have considerable experience in such "projects" so I feel the need to
offer "free advise" worth every penny it costs you.. [to date, I've
done 48 houses from like status, so BTDT, in spades]

1. Do not live in the house while rebuilding it.

2. Do not live in the house with a spouse while rebuilding it.

3. If you like the design of the house, take careful drawings of the
footprint of the house, then call in a demo company that has big equipment
[like a track hoe with a thumb bucket and semi size dump truck] and hire
them to demolish the house down to bare dirt. The entire house should be
gone in one to two days and the new building pad prepared.

4. Hire an architect to make building plans for the new house you will be
building on the property.  Hire a competent and well vetted contractor  to
build that house all the way to finish and paint.

5. Move into the new house and enjoy it, knowing you can insure it for
market value of a new house, sell it as a modern house in 5 yrs or when
ever you wish, having improved the market value. If needed, get a bank
loan, because it will be "built to code" that is "completely up to date".
Also, the new buyer will get qualified more quickly because the house will
be "bankable property".

6. Rebuilding an old house is an endless set of compromises that become an
empty pit to throw money into in the end accounting... cheaper and much
quicker to demo the old one, start fresh...

YMMV of course,
Grant...

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have to admit that I am somewhat envious.  I did this on our first
house, and while it was a major undertaking, life was far more demanding at
the time which compounded the process.  Now that my kids are adults and
I’ve got a lot more time on my hands it would be far more enjoyable and
much less stressful.

Sounds like the major issues have been dealt with, so now you just have to
deal with finishing out the shell.

Have fun!

-D



On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The things I like most are that I am buying it for $40,000 less than the

County Appraisal.  AND my payments will be less than half of my current
mortgage. AND living in a ranch house for the last seven years, this will
feel so much more open and have so much more light coming in!

Don Snook






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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:53:10 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Another good website is:
> 
> http://thecraftsmanblog.com/american-foursquare-style/
> 
> This site has lots of information about tools and ways of remodeling.

One excellent resource is http://thecraftsmanblog.com/living-in-the-past/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:35:57 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://mcmansionhell.com/post/166916762911/looking-around-american-foursquares
> 
> Cool houses.

Also,

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/American_foursquare-sears-52.gif

http://www.oldhouseweb.com/architecture-and-design/american-foursquare-1890-1930.shtml

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have considerable experience in such "projects" so I feel the need to
offer "free advise" worth every penny it costs you.. [to date, I've
done 48 houses from like status, so BTDT, in spades]

1. Do not live in the house while rebuilding it.

2. Do not live in the house with a spouse while rebuilding it.

3. If you like the design of the house, take careful drawings of the
footprint of the house, then call in a demo company that has big equipment
[like a track hoe with a thumb bucket and semi size dump truck] and hire
them to demolish the house down to bare dirt. The entire house should be
gone in one to two days and the new building pad prepared.

4. Hire an architect to make building plans for the new house you will be
building on the property.  Hire a competent and well vetted contractor  to
build that house all the way to finish and paint.

5. Move into the new house and enjoy it, knowing you can insure it for
market value of a new house, sell it as a modern house in 5 yrs or when
ever you wish, having improved the market value. If needed, get a bank
loan, because it will be "built to code" that is "completely up to date".
Also, the new buyer will get qualified more quickly because the house will
be "bankable property".

6. Rebuilding an old house is an endless set of compromises that become an
empty pit to throw money into in the end accounting... cheaper and much
quicker to demo the old one, start fresh...

YMMV of course,
Grant...

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have to admit that I am somewhat envious.  I did this on our first
> house, and while it was a major undertaking, life was far more demanding at
> the time which compounded the process.  Now that my kids are adults and
> I’ve got a lot more time on my hands it would be far more enjoyable and
> much less stressful.
>
> Sounds like the major issues have been dealt with, so now you just have to
> deal with finishing out the shell.
>
> Have fun!
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The things I like most are that I am buying it for $40,000 less than the
> County Appraisal.  AND my payments will be less than half of my current
> mortgage. AND living in a ranch house for the last seven years, this will
> feel so much more open and have so much more light coming in!
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:36:18 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:35:57 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > http://mcmansionhell.com/post/166916762911/looking-around-american-foursquares
> > 
> > Cool houses.
> 
> Also,
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/American_foursquare-sears-52.gif
> 
> http://www.oldhouseweb.com/architecture-and-design/american-foursquare-1890-1930.shtml

Another good website is:

http://thecraftsmanblog.com/american-foursquare-style/

This site has lots of information about tools and ways of remodeling.


http://realtormag.realtor.org/home-and-design/architecture-coach/article/2004/07/american-foursquare
describes how to sell a client on purchasing a Foursquare house.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

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> On November 15, 2017 at 12:15 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Add extra, properly breakered outlets and switches BEFORE you drywall the
> kitchen! A kitchen planner does help.

Wiring the gutted rooms before finishing them is the easy part, as long as you 
remember to get it done. 
Wiring the lath and plaster rooms will take some planning. Consult a few pros, 
and maybe find a pro forum, like an electricians' version of HVAC-Talk.com, and 
consult the forum's collective knowledge for ideas on how best to proceed. 
You might end up with external wiring under decorative conduit, but I hope 
there is some reasonable way to run the wires inside the walls. 

I'd just have them run new service from scratch. Keep using the existing wiring 
until it's done, then move the utility feed over to the new breaker box. Don't 
even waste time/money tearing the old wiring out. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] You Let One Pass By...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think it was considering the model.  If it had been a “regular” R129 that 
would have been too much.  The Silver Arrow thing seems to be pretty desirable, 
and there weren’t many of them made.  That and it’s pretty much the last one of 
that chassis that came off the line, so any kinks were ironed out a long, long 
time ago.

-D


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Seems cheap.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> That 2002 Silver Arrow went for $10,500. That was a steal for that car, one 
> of the few R129s that actually has some value.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have to admit that I am somewhat envious.  I did this on our first house, and 
while it was a major undertaking, life was far more demanding at the time which 
compounded the process.  Now that my kids are adults and I’ve got a lot more 
time on my hands it would be far more enjoyable and much less stressful.

Sounds like the major issues have been dealt with, so now you just have to deal 
with finishing out the shell.

Have fun!

-D


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The things I like most are that I am buying it for $40,000 less than the 
> County Appraisal.  AND my payments will be less than half of my current 
> mortgage. AND living in a ranch house for the last seven years, this will 
> feel so much more open and have so much more light coming in!
> 
> Don Snook
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

It is not speed that kills, it is differences in speed.  Kind of like when
they say the fall won't kill you, it's the sudden stop at the end.

I think there used to be a statistic that said something like 90% of all
the road collisions happen to vehicles that are either in the top 10% of
the "normal" speed or in the bottom 10%.  The lesson was don't be the
fastest car on the road, but don't be the slowest car either.  Perhaps the
Pious drivers aren't in either group most of the time?  Regardless, driving
slower than most drivers is making you a "hazard to navigation" which is
not a good place to be.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 9:41 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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>
> Why isn't the world famous Prius on that list?
> In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road for one
> principal reason: We Prius drivers drive slowly and carefully.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:07:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> > On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > But, it will need to have the entire house re-wired as it still has
> > knob and tube throughout. We will need to add a bathroom (in a
> > laundry room where there is already plumbing), drywall the kitchen,
> > add cabinets, countertops, etc, and replace two exterior doors. They
> > were living in the house (the bathroom is functional and just needs
> > finish work.  They were cooking in a microwave. It should be a very
> > interesting project!
>
> Have fun

Yes, indeed! And don't forget others on the list have done things
somewhat similar.

Add extra, properly breakered outlets and switches BEFORE you drywall the
kitchen! A kitchen planner does help.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

The things I like most are that I am buying it for $40,000 less than the County 
Appraisal.  AND my payments will be less than half of my current mortgage. AND 
living in a ranch house for the last seven years, this will feel so much more 
open and have so much more light coming in!

Don Snook

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:00 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ; Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

My ex partner (interior designer) had a real love for four squares.  I thought 
I would die of boredom within the first 6 months after moving in due to their 
excessive symmetry.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> wrote:
Kaleb wrote:

"Have fun"

It should be fun AND frustrating and long and difficult and exciting.  The 
sellers did make some immediate repairs when they bought it such as replacing 
several windows some of the wood floors have been refinished.  There was a 
minor leak in the roof and they addressed it already.  As part of that repair 
some of the lath and plaster in the dining room will have to be repaired.  But, 
the problems that HAD to be addressed immediately were done.  They were living 
there for the last few months. So, we know we can live there while we go 
through the process.  I still have my house in Wichita so we don't have to move 
into this one until it sells -- although the sooner we move, the sooner I can 
stop commuting 120 miles a day.

Has anyone had a whole house rewired?   That's the project I am most anxious 
about.

Don Snook







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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My ex partner (interior designer) had a real love for four squares.  I
thought I would die of boredom within the first 6 months after moving in
due to their excessive symmetry.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kaleb wrote:
>
> "Have fun"
>
> It should be fun AND frustrating and long and difficult and exciting.  The
> sellers did make some immediate repairs when they bought it such as
> replacing several windows some of the wood floors have been refinished.
> There was a minor leak in the roof and they addressed it already.  As part
> of that repair some of the lath and plaster in the dining room will have to
> be repaired.  But, the problems that HAD to be addressed immediately were
> done.  They were living there for the last few months. So, we know we can
> live there while we go through the process.  I still have my house in
> Wichita so we don't have to move into this one until it sells -- although
> the sooner we move, the sooner I can stop commuting 120 miles a day.
>
> Has anyone had a whole house rewired?   That's the project I am most
> anxious about.
>
> Don Snook
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Quite a savings from a $400,000 newer model.  yeah, right.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $15k is actually cheap for a 50kkm odometer and body panels you can't see
> through, isn't it?
> Mitch.
> > On November 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mercedes W460 G Class 300GD SUV
> >
> > https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-w460-class-
> 300gd-suv/6387545436.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Is Pierre Stumped?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

CHANGE THE FUSES.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I can fix that easy.  Swap in a proper Oil Motor, problem solved!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Probably a good question for one of us.
> > Jaime?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwdxMC_FKkk=em
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Re: [MBZ] You Let One Pass By...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems cheap.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That 2002 Silver Arrow went for $10,500. That was a steal for that car,
> one of the few R129s that actually has some value.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote: 

"Have fun" 

It should be fun AND frustrating and long and difficult and exciting.  The 
sellers did make some immediate repairs when they bought it such as replacing 
several windows some of the wood floors have been refinished.  There was a 
minor leak in the roof and they addressed it already.  As part of that repair 
some of the lath and plaster in the dining room will have to be repaired.  But, 
the problems that HAD to be addressed immediately were done.  They were living 
there for the last few months. So, we know we can live there while we go 
through the process.  I still have my house in Wichita so we don't have to move 
into this one until it sells -- although the sooner we move, the sooner I can 
stop commuting 120 miles a day. 

Has anyone had a whole house rewired?   That's the project I am most anxious 
about. 

Don Snook 







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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Dan wrote: 

"http://mcmansionhell.com/post/166916762911/looking-around-american-foursquares

Cool houses." 

That is almost exactly the floorplan of mine.  The one exception is that 
someone in the past turned it into a 3 bedroom.  The master bedroom is much 
larger now.  

Don Snook 




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1

I was thinking much the same...

-D


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 1. Are you high?
> ‎2. Contracting the work out (mostly)?
> 3. ‎Are you doing the work yourself? 
> 
> If ‎number one, get into rehab (not a rehab house) quick!
> 
> If number two, get a premium membership from Angie's List. Make friends at 
> the local hardware store/lumber yard to find the best contractors, not the 
> cheapest. ‎Being a general contractor is a job. I am sure you are up to the 
> task, but you may be hard pressed to find time in your day to get things 
> done. 
> 
> If number three, God help you. You are taking on another full time job. Full. 
> Time. Job. If you are going to attempt to live in the house while it is being 
> rehabbed, forget it. It will never be done. 
> 
> Involve your son, and step daughter (and wife) as much as possible. Yes, it 
> will double or triple the time  ‎to complete anything. Oh well. The family 
> that works together, stays together. It will be a learning experience for 
> everyone, and great family time. I can see Henry and you painting each other, 
> whilst painting the walls. Memories to last a lifetime. 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

1. Are you high?
‎2. Contracting the work out (mostly)?
3. ‎Are you doing the work yourself? 

If ‎number one, get into rehab (not a rehab house) quick!

If number two, get a premium membership from Angie's List. Make friends at the 
local hardware store/lumber yard to find the best contractors, not the 
cheapest. ‎Being a general contractor is a job. I am sure you are up to the 
task, but you may be hard pressed to find time in your day to get things done. 

If number three, God help you. You are taking on another full time job. Full. 
Time. Job. If you are going to attempt to live in the house while it is being 
rehabbed, forget it. It will never be done. 

Involve your son, and step daughter (and wife) as much as possible. Yes, it 
will double or triple the time  ‎to complete anything. Oh well. The family that 
works together, stays together. It will be a learning experience for everyone, 
and great family time. I can see Henry and you painting each other, whilst 
painting the walls. Memories to last a lifetime. 

Good luck,

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.

I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m 
figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming points.  
That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve got a package of 
the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t need them (until 
now.)

Thanks!

Dan

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go to the 
>> range.
> 
> Why wait for a range trip?
> Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand placement 
> from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the trigger?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Prophetic words:

>  “They had some personal relationship problems and now have to get rid of the 
> house. “

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good luck. 
> Just know that I did more to my project house in the three months before I 
> moved in than I did in the five years after I moved in. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

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Good luck. 
Just know that I did more to my project house in the three months before I 
moved in than I did in the five years after I moved in. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

$15k is actually cheap for a 50kkm odometer and body panels you can't see 
through, isn't it?
Mitch. 
> On November 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mercedes W460 G Class 300GD SUV
> 
> https://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-w460-class-300gd-suv/6387545436.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Watch the movie "Money Pit". Been there.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://mcmansionhell.com/post/166916762911/looking-around-
> american-foursquares
>
> Cool houses.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I remember a while back, Kaleb posted a link to an old house for a
> possible flip.  I am moving 60 miles to a new town and have decided to
> purchase an old home that needs rehab.  A client of mine is a developer and
> one his employees purchased a house a few months ago for a flip.  They had
> some personal relationship problems and now have to get rid of the house.
> The style is called an American FourSquare.  They bought the house and
> replaced some windows, did some minor repairs, redid a bathroom, and did
> paint work.  They also demoed the kitchen down to the studs.   I am getting
> it for less than they bought it.   But, it will need to have the entire
> house re-wired as it still has knob and tube throughout.  We will need to
> add a bathroom (in a laundry room where there is already plumbing), drywall
> the kitchen, add cabinets, countertops, etc, and replace two exterior
> doors.   They were living in the house (the bathroom is functional and just
> needs finish work.  They were cooking in a microwave.  It should be a very
> interesting project!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go to the 
> range.

Why wait for a range trip?
Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand placement from 
the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the trigger?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Heart cath

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Mind the sawbones. 

Bob R

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:35 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have fun!  Try for a wrist cath; less complications and is overall easier
> than a groin cath.
> 
> -MMM-
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> Fixing to head to the hospital for the heart cath. I will say that after
>> taking the beta blockers for about 4 or 5 days my blood pressure has been
>> back to normal and I have felt fine with symptoms at all.
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Re: [MBZ] Heart cath

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Have fun!  Try for a wrist cath; less complications and is overall easier
than a groin cath.

-MMM-

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fixing to head to the hospital for the heart cath. I will say that after
> taking the beta blockers for about 4 or 5 days my blood pressure has been
> back to normal and I have felt fine with symptoms at all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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