yup, mercedes gun nuts for the third ammendment. think about it. it's
stunning.
On 12/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so we should call it the 3rd amendment list?
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
>
> > We could trade tips on interior decorating and designer
> > pharmaceuticals over
so we should call it the 3rd amendment list?
Zeitgeist wrote:
We could trade tips on interior decorating and designer
pharmaceuticals over on the third amendment list...just a suggestion.
On 12/2/05, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
nah, we'd end up just talking about cars there
Case
a gun list, hmm
Zeitgeist wrote:
Maybe Kaleb should start up a Guns n' Ammo listserv for all you he-man
second amendment obsessives. I'm hoping he'll also start one up for
those of us perpetually worried about third amendment abuses--ever
vigilant am I.
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I
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mine if pretty nice. norinco mak-90. prices have gone up as well. the
guy
in the parking lot claimed all sorts of little modification, but dont'
they
always?
that gun is $9
The third amendment list is ostensibly for ultra paranoid
vigilant-types ready to pounce on any sign of guv abuse of our sacred
amendment...oh, and also for those who like interior decorating and
designer pharmaceuticals.
On 12/2/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3rd Amendment list?
> B
Zeitgeist wrote:
>
> We could trade tips on interior decorating and designer
> pharmaceuticals over on the third amendment list...just a suggestion.
3rd Amendment list?
Been bunking with any soldiers or agents of gov't lately?
Seems like you picked on the only part of the Bill of Rights that
isn
Christopher McCann wrote:
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> Reagan ban?
>
> Full auto's are not banned, since the 30's you've needed a $200 permit,
> which was alot back then, but not now.
There's been a moratorium on new permits since the Raygun administration.
ATF will transfer an already-permitted full auto, but they w
We could trade tips on interior decorating and designer
pharmaceuticals over on the third amendment list...just a suggestion.
On 12/2/05, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nah, we'd end up just talking about cars there
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
nah, we'd end up just talking about cars there
On 12/2/05, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe Kaleb should start up a Guns n' Ammo listserv for all you he-man
> second amendment obsessives. I'm hoping he'll also start one up for
> those of us perpetually worried about third amendment
Maybe Kaleb should start up a Guns n' Ammo listserv for all you he-man
second amendment obsessives. I'm hoping he'll also start one up for
those of us perpetually worried about third amendment abuses--ever
vigilant am I.
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87
legal ones are rare and very valuable. illegal conversions get you put
away. want one with papers? cost you about 5 grand and up now
On 12/2/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Reagan ban?
>
> Full auto's are not banned, since the 30's you've needed a $200 permit,
> which w
But Terrible Ted's choice of weaponry is a bow and arrow and he is damned
good with it.
Mike
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Subje
Reagan ban?
Full auto's are not banned, since the 30's you've needed a $200 permit, which
was alot back then, but not now.
If the crap ever really hit the fan here, there would be a BOOMING biz in
the few parts you need to convert an AR-15 to full auto - millions to convert.
Chri
Gary Hurst wrote:
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> fully automatic weapons have gone through the roof
That was caused mostly by the Reagan ban. Nobody seems
interested in getting rid of the ban on new FAs, so the
old ones just get more valuable.
Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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fully automatic weapons have gone through the roof
don't know if you guys know Huber Haine
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The total article can be found at:
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You may be tempted to dismiss the info as being from the NRA,
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> > mine if pretty nice. norinco ma
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it's my daughter. i'd get her a litle bolt action .223 for her 9th birthday
if she was interested, but, alas, she isn't :(
A year ago, i have never even fired a gun. Now i buy Ted Nugent albums.
America -- what a country!
On 12/1/05, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 12/1/05, Gary
On 12/1/05, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> put the kid in the trunk last night and the gun was located way in the front
> up next to the rear seat. see, no worries. The AK is at happily at my side
So, just so I understand this correctly, you throw your only son in
the truck often? On th
cool
Gary Hurst wrote:
put the kid in the trunk last night and the gun was located way in the front
up next to the rear seat. see, no worries. The AK is at happily at my side
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> > no paperwork. i gave him $500 and he gave me the gun. i had him write
> me
> > a receipt though and took his business card
> >
> &g
no paperwork. i gave him $500 and he gave me the gun. i had him write me
a receipt though and took his business card
On 11/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill
> out any papework to transfer ownership? Aro
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So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill
out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun
at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this
That's the way it is here and I am under the impression that is a Federal
regulation.
Mike
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To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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In MO, the Federal background check is only required for long gun purhcases
when you buy from an FFL (gun store, etc). Private sales are no different than
buying a cord of wood. Buying a car from your buddy is far more complicated
than buying a rifle from your buddy...fitting as cars are FAR
So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill
out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun
at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this deal and answer
some questions, they call a phone number and find out if you are
approved or not.
his post
> sucks!
>
> Mike
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> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:35 PM
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I have seen studies that claim that in shall issue states, violent crimes goes
down, but non violent crime goes up. Makes sense. Criminals are more afraid of
people with guns...so they go after objects - stealing cars, etc rather than
muggings.
Chris
Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Did not know that. Definitely not the case in Missouri.
Chris
Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris said...
>You will go to jail for murder if you do that. Can't shoot a guy running
away!
>No matter WHAT he did!
In Texas, if it's "nighttime", you can use deadly force to prevent a p
A list of all sorts of crime statistics --
http://www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/crimjust/stats.htm#federal
On 11/28/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most anything you want is here --
> http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 07:25:35PM -0500, Steve MacSween wrote:
> News to me. In the U.S. it's perfectly legal for law enforcement to shoot a
> fleeing felon.
Fleeing felon alone is no longer adequate justification in california
(and this shouldn't surprise anyone). For a cop to shoot a fleeing fe
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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exactly. there were 8 guns in the trunk. one is not there. could have
fallen unde
Kevin wrote:
>
> (This, of course, doesn't take into account that someone can still run after
> you after being shot, since unlike in hollywood, not all shots are fatal.)
I think that getting shot on the street with a handgun has about a 20% mortality
rate. Getting stuck once with a knife is prob
Man, we clearly have some tough talking hombres around here. And to
think, most folks think MB owners are nothing more than candy-assed
effete pate sniffers. Sounds like some of you tough guys would just
assume shoot a man, than suffer the indignity of a sideways glance at
a little brake dust on
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 04:37:13PM -0500, Trampas wrote:
> Never bring a knife to a gun fight
Not necessarily. I saw someone in class who was an IPSEC shooter (and had
several trophies) go up against a jailer who trained with knives. Jailer had
a chalked training blade, and the shooter had a b
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The total article can be found at:
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no, i went to see drew the wood guy who owns a compound in NC. i live in
the city and only get to shoot at a 25 yard indoor range. chopped down 4
trees with my .45 :)
On 11/28/05, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jabbabursty wrote:
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>
>
> "exactly. there were 8 guns in the trunk.
Jabbabursty wrote:
"exactly. there were 8 guns in the trunk. one is not there. could
have fallen under something. it is a 35 year old car. will have to
make a more serious search for it"
I may have missed something early in this discussion, but why in the
world did you have 8 guns in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The total article can be found at:
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=126
You may be tempted to dismiss the info as being from the NRA, but I assure
you the facts are correct - if the NRA were caught offering incorrect info
such as this, the media (ne
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>
> yeah, this is an interesting point which is covered, i believe, in the
> current NRA magazine. There is some general 21 foot law enforcement
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Bob DuPuy wrote:
The fact is that crime goes down in "shall issue states" because the
would
be criminal can never know who may or may not be armed.
But does the murder rate go down? I'm no
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yeah, this is an interesting point which is covered, i believe, in the
current NRA magazine. There is some general 21 foot law enforcement rule
for shooting a guy brandish
I will just stick to my 44 mag or my .357 mag for those situations.
Mitch Haley wrote:
Gary Hurst wrote:
yeah, this is an interesting point which is covered, i believe, in the
current NRA magazine. There is some general 21 foot law enforcement rule
for shooting a guy brandishing a knife. wh
David, statistically all violent crime including murder goes down in
"shall issue" states. As long as you stay out of my house and don't
threaten my wife or kids I won't shoot you. The fact that other
citizens are willing to take on the responsibility and liability of
carrying, will indeed keep you
Chris said...
>You will go to jail for murder if you do that. Can't shoot a guy running
away!
>No matter WHAT he did!
In Texas, if it's "nighttime", you can use deadly force to prevent a perp
from escaping with property stolen during a burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft.
Royce Engle
Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> yeah, this is an interesting point which is covered, i believe, in the
> current NRA magazine. There is some general 21 foot law enforcement rule
> for shooting a guy brandishing a knife. while it would take me 2 weeks to
> get to you from 21 feet, it took knife attackers u
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Christopher McCann wrote:
You will go to jail for murder if you do that. Can't
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Dave,
Very rea
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This line of discussion kind of
You will go to jail for murder if you do that. Can't shoot a guy
running away!
No matter WHAT he did!
Can if you can prove (!) that he's actually immediately on his way to
commit mayhem, such as shoot your family outside, or torch the building,
etc. Awfully hard to be sure that's what's going
yeah, this is an interesting point which is covered, i believe, in the
current NRA magazine. There is some general 21 foot law enforcement rule
for shooting a guy brandishing a knife. while it would take me 2 weeks to
get to you from 21 feet, it took knife attackers under 1.5 seconds.
As i'm an
Bob DuPuy wrote:
> The fact is that crime goes down in "shall issue states" because the would
> be criminal can never know who may or may not be armed.
But does the murder rate go down? I'm not interested in a lower chance
of having my stuff stolen if it means a higher chance of being shot,
frank
The fact is that crime goes down in "shall issue states" because the would
be criminal can never know who may or may not be armed. When in doubt these
mutts will move on to targets that appear softer. If granny just might have
a hand gun in her purse or nightstand she is afforded some protection ju
Christopher McCann wrote:
> You will go to jail for murder if you do that. Can't shoot a guy running away!
> No matter WHAT he did!
I think in Florida it's now legal to shoot anyone as long as you shout
"he's headed right for us!" first. ;)
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Dave,
Very real concerns. The first one is simply reality. Your gun may do you NO
good. Your gun CAN do you harm (taken away from you - although that doesn't
happen nearly as often as it's claimed by some). On the other hand,
approximately 2 million crimes are thwarted every year in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Steve MacSween wrote:
>> I understand your point, but the answer there is that no one with proper
>> training 'whips it out' while the robbery is in progress. The resulting
>> firestorm would be like using dynamite to fish in your backyard pool, and
>> inevitably you'd p
Steve MacSween wrote:
> I understand your point, but the answer there is that no one with proper
> training 'whips it out' while the robbery is in progress. The resulting
> firestorm would be like using dynamite to fish in your backyard pool, and
> inevitably you'd probably kill more innocents than
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let's say some guy decides to rob the bank you're in and five people
> whip out pistols. How do you know who you need to shoot and who you
> don't? Some of them might be in on the job. Do you shoot all of them
> just to be sure?
I understand your point, but the answe
During PP (personal protection) class, we did an excellent drill. Two people
stand on the firing line. One person facing the target with their pistol
sitting on a chair. THe second person stands next to them, but facing AWAY
from the firing line. THe range officer yells "GO" and the person f
Never bring a knife to a gun fight
Trampas
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Texan answer for sure
On
Texan answer for sure
On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 09:47 PM, Royce Engler wrote:
That reminds me of the following...
SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your
wife and
two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
knife
comes around the cor
Yeah, you can't teach 'em kids gunsafety early enough.
> >> Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy! Where those the Winchester Silver Tips?"
> --
> Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
> '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and thats about the truth of it.
Royce Engler wrote:
That reminds me of the following...
SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and thats about the truth of it.
Royce Engler wrote:
That reminds me of the following...
SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and
two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife
comes around the corner, l
That reminds me of the following...
SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and
two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife
comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises
the knife and charges. You are carryin
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