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From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:06 PM
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all we can do is stay ready in case
Nah, jim ignores me unless I say something unkind about the frankenheap
clay
On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:52, Mitch Haley wrote:
Mitch Haley wrote:
Jim Cathey wrote:
And I think, for whatever reason, that the victim kept advancing
on the homeowner when any of the rest of us would have backed
off
Nah, jim ignores me unless I say something unkind about the frankenheap
I'm ignoring you now! :-)
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From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:04 AM
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From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:04 AM
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there is a large class of people, larry, who believe as mama did
Nah, I don't think so. Gary would look funny with no arms.
Randy
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:06 PM
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all we
I've seen pictures of Gary, he's already funny looking.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:27:34 -0500
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Now, be nice.
Randy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:34 PM
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I've seen pictures of Gary, he's already funny looking.
-Curt
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
R A Bennell wrote:
Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or she
is defending him or herself
, 2008 2:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.
Instead we
have a politically driven decision along party lines. If they had
done the
research of looking to see what
, June 27, 2008 6:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
we have the right to individually own arms.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i hate
Do you think the shooting in NO was legally owned guns?
-Curt
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:42:40 -0500
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
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R A Bennell wrote:
Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and try to get
help at someone's home either. They
might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on the door,
right?
You come up with the most wild fantasies and present them as logic...
Your
R A Bennell wrote:
He, like all of the others, will say whatever he thinks will get him elected.
Like all the others--- Yep. The problem with politics is that we keep
electing
politicians. The people with the greatest hunger for power are those least
trustworthy to wield it. And I don't know
R A Bennell wrote:
We had massive flooding here in 1997 and to the best of my knowledge there
was no looting or shooting.
Well, that could change if you had our government there to throw you out of
your
homes and take your keys for safekeeping.
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R A Bennell wrote:
Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and try to get
help at someone's home either. They
might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on the door,
right?
You come up
: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:58 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
R A Bennell wrote:
We had massive flooding here in 1997 and to the best of my knowledge there
was no looting or shooting.
Well, that could change if you had our government
R A Bennell wrote:
However, I am concerned about the less than responsible citizens who also
have firearms and may well lack the
common sense required to make good decisions.
In USA and UK, we call those people Certified Law Enforcement Officers.
The really funny part about the boobies is
PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
R A Bennell wrote:
However, I am concerned about the less than responsible citizens who also
have firearms and may well lack the
common sense required to make good decisions.
In USA and UK, we call those
Court upholds gun rights
R A Bennell wrote:
Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and
try to get help at someone's home either. They
might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on
the door, right?
You come up with the most wild fantasies
The Texas codger who shot the two burglar S O etceteras is my latest
hero!!
Wilton
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From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:53 PM
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The exchange student you mentioned was newsworthy, it's the only such
death I
can recall in the last ten years, and it was at least five years ago.
The
homeowner probably thought the Japanese guy was hispanic and then
assumed a
robbery would happen in the next few seconds.
And I think,
Jim Cathey wrote:
And I think, for whatever reason, that the victim kept advancing
on the homeowner when any of the rest of us would have backed
off apologizing profusely.
I believe they advanced on Joe Horn until it became obvious that he really
would
shoot them. Then they turned and tried
R A Bennell wrote:
Two further comments and then I'm going to abandon this thread. You can have
the final word if need be.
1. I don't want to be the unexpected visitor who gets shot.
You say that as if it happens in real life. I consider it a straw man argument,
because it mainly exists
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:38:47 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim Cathey wrote:
And I think, for whatever reason, that the victim kept advancing
on the homeowner when any of the rest of us would have backed
off apologizing profusely.
I believe they advanced on Joe Horn until
Mitch Haley wrote:
Jim Cathey wrote:
And I think, for whatever reason, that the victim kept advancing
on the homeowner when any of the rest of us would have backed
off apologizing profusely.
I believe they advanced on Joe Horn until it became obvious that he really
would
shoot them.
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:55:08 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like all the others--- Yep. The problem with politics is that we keep
electing politicians. The people with the greatest hunger for power are
those least trustworthy to wield it. And I don't know of any solution
to
I believe they advanced on Joe Horn until it became obvious that he
really would
shoot them. Then they turned and tried to run as shots were fired. And
stop
calling these career criminals victims.
I was referring to that unfortunate incident with the Japanese
exchange student, and the
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R A Bennell wrote
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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:40 PM
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Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night
: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and try to
get help at someone's home either. They
might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on the door,
right?
Unfortunately, my opinion of the abilities
cops need crime like fish need water. where there is none, they simply try
to create some.
if you open carry, the police are instructed to harass you, as it is an
opportunity to create business.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary Hurst wrote:
just
And even then they may not have..
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Sent: 6/27/08 10:23 PM
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I doubt that there is anyway to tell what
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From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or
she
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.
Instead we
have a politically driven decision along party lines. If they had
done the
research of looking to see what the forefathers had
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From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:44 PM
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is that what larry has been doing??
oh, man, larry, give that up! you can get shot that way!
On Fri, Jun 27
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OK Don wrote:
Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
we have the right to individually own arms.
12 years
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
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I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by default
-- they were stored in her mother's
according to the nra, obama has a powerfully anti gun record as a
legislator, including voting against any right to protect your home and
family from criminal intrusion through the use of a firearm. from reading
the nra magazine, it seems that obama is a complete and unconditional ban
guy.
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 5:33 PM
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Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or
she is defending him or herself or his or
her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different than
, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
default
-- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
especially
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From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:08 PM
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i feel an obligation to carry. what if i come across a situation where
someone absolutely needs shooting
Of LarryT
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:46 AM
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Clay wrote With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to
respond to future disasters. And other nations will be in much the
same limited position
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I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
default
] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
default
-- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I
Washington is an open carry state.
Umm, I don't think it is any longer. It certainly used to
be, not that many years ago. But then some bunch of whiners
around Olympia got their panties in a bunch about somebody
that carried a rifle in their pickup's gun rack in a 'neighborhood'
and they got
Perception is reality!
Thanks,
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:10 PM
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Or so it would seem.
BillR
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Perception is reality!
Thanks,
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Gary Hurst wrote:
just because the law says open carry is ok, doesn't mean they will let you
do it
Sometimes they need a little help in getting the message.
In this case, the cops asked the manager if the customers were any trouble,
trying to prompt a complaint that might justify their
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:57:45 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary Hurst wrote:
just because the law says open carry is ok, doesn't mean they will let
you do it
Sometimes they need a little help in getting the message.
In this case, the cops asked the manager if the customers
Craig McCluskey wrote:
The link goes to a story that says they have filed a suit. Do you have a
link to the origial story?
The only original news story I saw at the time was on a TV station's web page,
and I can't find it now. Here's a lot of discussion:
Mitch Haley wrote:
Craig McCluskey wrote:
The link goes to a story that says they have filed a suit. Do you have a
link to the origial story?
The only original news story I saw at the time was on a TV station's web
page,
and I can't find it now.
Silly me, I was searching for Cracker
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
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I just have to jump
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:10:39 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Never know. Mayor is attempting to ban handguns on city property
(parks, venues, city hall) We will see how far he gets.
Seattle?
Craig
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it is not a direct ban, the language is sufficiently loose that if
you were to walk down the streets of Seattle with a handgun in a hip
holster, I suspect that you would be arrested under this statute,
which makes it unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display,
or draw any
yes, the land of the liberal yellow belly asexual granola eating
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On 28 Jun 2008, at 18:16, Craig McCluskey wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:10:39 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Never know. Mayor is attempting to
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Subject: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
It's a long decision (157 pages)
The Court held (among other things) that
1. The Second
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http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
It's a long decision (157 pages)
The Court held (among other things) that
1. The Second Amendment
R A Bennell wrote:
Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or she
is defending him or herself or his or
her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different than they
were when the constitution was
written and most folks in your fine country
R A Bennell wrote:
Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or she
is defending him or herself or his or
her country.
Around here, you're more likely to be shot by a law enforcement officer who
thinks he's protecting his own ass. I've got a suggestion to you,
Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.
Instead we
have a politically driven decision along party lines. If they had
done the
research of looking to see what the forefathers had *intended
i hate to enter into the obama bashing, but from what i understand he is
very much in favor of the idea that only criminals and police should have
guns. i don't like voting and can't see voting the party of bush, but this
supreme court situation might just call for me to vote for mccain.
On Thu,
why the hell would an armed citizen shoot larry?
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:35 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
R A Bennell wrote:
Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or
she is defending him or herself or his or
her country. I suggest that the
is that what larry has been doing??
oh, man, larry, give that up! you can get shot that way!
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
R A Bennell wrote:
Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or
she is defending him or herself or
Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
we have the right to individually own arms.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i hate to enter into the obama bashing, but from what i understand he is
very much in favor of the idea that
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i hate to enter into the obama bashing, but from what i understand he is
very much in favor of the idea that only criminals and police should have
guns. i don't like voting and can't see voting the party of bush, but
this
supreme court situation might
OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief
that we have the right to individually own arms.
He very slickly supported both sides of the argument. He said he
thought we had the right to own arms but thought that government ought
to be able
OK Don wrote:
Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
we have the right to individually own arms.
12 years of action speak louder than those phony words.
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I doubt that there is anyway to tell what a politician will do until
they've already done it.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK Don wrote:
Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
we have the right to individually own arms.
I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by default
-- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I own none now but not
because I think they are
Wow - can you still 'buy MG parts'? And someone is still buying them? ;-)
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http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
It's a long decision (157 pages)
The Court held (among other things) that
1. The Second Amendment protects an individuals right to possess a firearm
unconnected to service in a militia
2. Like most rights, the right to bear arms is not
No surprise to me.
Probably boils down to 'all federal laws, present and future, are good, but
DC's ban goes too far'.
Then we get to spend the nest 20 years deciding which state and city
laws cross the line.
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Mitch wrote: No surprise to me. Probably boils down to 'all federal laws,
present and future, are good, but DC's ban goes too far'.
Then we get to spend the nest 20 years deciding which state and city laws cross
the line.
I wasn't shocked by the decision, but I was surprised that it was 5-4.
This should concern all gun owners. The next president could appoint quite a
few members of the Supreme Court. Stevens is getting very old (88), Ginsburg
is not healthy and she is 75. Others could certainly retire or die.
So if we get a Prez that thinks that only criminals should have
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