Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Peters
Hi List, we have a couple of Supermicro boxes with Supmicro X10SLM+-LN4F Boards. These are featuring the Intel i210AT Chipsets. Are there any plans or patches to get them working? Downloaded today's snapshot but they aren't getting configured either. Is anyone working on it (and have a patch for

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:26:19AM +0100, Marc Peters wrote: Hi List, we have a couple of Supermicro boxes with Supmicro X10SLM+-LN4F Boards. These are featuring the Intel i210AT Chipsets. Are there any plans or patches to get them working? Downloaded today's snapshot but they aren't

Re: urtw0 wpa2 working on Lemote?

2014-02-06 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 22:15 CET, Alexey Suslikov alexey.susli...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian Reitenbach sebastia at l00-bugdead-prods.de writes: Anyways, at work I specify the nwid and the wpakey like this: ifconfig urtw0 nwid MYID wpakey SECRETKEY up but status keeps

Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread davy
Hi, I’ve recently was asked to take over the maintenance of an old OpenBSD machine, which has not been updated in the last 7 years. Currently the machine has been running for close to 1000 days on 4.1. It has been a while since I worked with OpenBSD (shame on me), and I’m really not sure

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 06/02/14 12:49, davy wrote: Hi, I’ve recently was asked to take over the maintenance of an old OpenBSD machine, which has not been updated in the last 7 years. Currently the machine has been running for close to 1000 days on 4.1. It has been a while since I worked with OpenBSD (shame on

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Andy
Setup 'puppet', then you can reinstall every box, every release and have puppet configure everything in 10 mins! ;) Sorry, sound like I'm boasting! Haha, I just really love that we put in the initial effort to get puppet working even though we only have a small fleet of OBSD boxes as

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, davy wrote: Hi, I’ve recently was asked to take over the maintenance of an old OpenBSD machine, which has not been updated in the last 7 years. OpenBSD is stable, isn't it? :) Currently the machine has been running for close to 1000 days on 4.1. It has been a while since I worked with

Re: Is [binary] package signing planned?

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 03:59:57PM -0200, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Em 04-02-2014 18:03, Marc Espie escreveu: I *encourage* you guys to read signify and pkg_add code and poke holes in them! I did read both last night. Signify is very easy and straightforward to understand. I wasn't really

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 12:31:44PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, davy wrote: Hi, I?ve recently was asked to take over the maintenance of an old OpenBSD machine, which has not been updated in the last 7 years. OpenBSD is stable, isn't it? :) Currently the machine has been running

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Joerg Goltermann
Hi, On 06.02.2014 10:26, Marc Peters wrote: Hi List, we have a couple of Supermicro boxes with Supmicro X10SLM+-LN4F Boards. These are featuring the Intel i210AT Chipsets. Are there any plans or patches to get them working? Downloaded today's snapshot but they aren't getting configured either.

Panic using tmpfs on current

2014-02-06 Thread Kim Twain
So, I know this may be the wrong mailing list, well, it is, but I'm a first time user and I don't think I have enough information to open a bug report. I am trying openbsd 5.5 (current) on an smp amd64 machine. after some late-night experimentations with systrace, I decided that, for untrusted

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Peters
On 02/06/14 12:52, Joerg Goltermann wrote: Hi, On 06.02.2014 10:26, Marc Peters wrote: Hi List, we have a couple of Supermicro boxes with Supmicro X10SLM+-LN4F Boards. These are featuring the Intel i210AT Chipsets. Are there any plans or patches to get them working? Downloaded today's

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Nick Holland
On 02/06/14 05:49, davy wrote: Hi, I’ve recently was asked to take over the maintenance of an old OpenBSD machine, which has not been updated in the last 7 years. Currently the machine has been running for close to 1000 days on 4.1. It has been a while since I worked with OpenBSD (shame

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread davy van de moere
Hmm, you do have an excellent point there. Those disks, it's a miracle they 're still working. I'll think the re-start from bare metal is the best way forward. Thank you for your honest answers! At least I didn't get frustrated because of upgrade hell! :) 2014-02-06 Nick Holland

Re: Intermittent stops in network traffic with urtw interface

2014-02-06 Thread Alexey Suslikov
Brian Curran brian at brianpcurran.com writes: when it stops passing traffic, does issuing ifconfig urtw0 scan help? I test this just now and it seemed to help, although I only started seeing ping replies about 10 seconds after issuing the scan. There is a similar small delay, though

Re: Intermittent stops in network traffic with urtw interface

2014-02-06 Thread Brad Smith
On 06/02/14 9:25 AM, Alexey Suslikov wrote: Brian Curran brian at brianpcurran.com writes: when it stops passing traffic, does issuing ifconfig urtw0 scan help? I test this just now and it seemed to help, although I only started seeing ping replies about 10 seconds after issuing the scan.

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, davy wrote: Can I do a 4.1 - 5.4 in one shot? Nope. One version at a time, .. though the better solution would be to do a fresh install and copy data. Lee

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Peters
On 02/06/14 13:58, Marc Peters wrote: On 02/06/14 12:52, Joerg Goltermann wrote: These are the cards: ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 8 Series PCIE rev 0xd5: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 Intel I210 rev 0x03 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 not configured ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 8

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Kenneth Westerback
Shudder. NO! :-) Aside from the very valid hardware concerns Nick mentioned, there are too many flag days of various kinds strewn along that path. Skip them all, start fresh with a -current snapshot. Ken On 6 February 2014 05:49, davy davy.van.de.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've recently

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Joerg Goltermann
On 06.02.2014 12:52, Joerg Goltermann wrote: Hi, On 06.02.2014 10:26, Marc Peters wrote: Hi List, we have a couple of Supermicro boxes with Supmicro X10SLM+-LN4F Boards. These are featuring the Intel i210AT Chipsets. Are there any plans or patches to get them working? Downloaded today's

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
Heck, even pkg_add won't be too happy. I've finally scraped a few compatibility items that were around 7 years ago, like support for @md5 checksums...

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Kenneth Westerback wrote: Shudder. NO! :-) Aside from the very valid hardware concerns Nick mentioned, there are too many flag days of various kinds strewn along that path. Skip them all, start fresh with a -current snapshot. Much better to start with new CD set, eh?

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Kenneth Westerback
On 6 February 2014 11:44, L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Kenneth Westerback wrote: Shudder. NO! :-) Aside from the very valid hardware concerns Nick mentioned, there are too many flag days of various kinds strewn along that path. Skip them all, start fresh with a

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Kenneth Westerback wrote: Well, that would imply waiting for May 1 or whenever the physical CD's are available. 5.4 is available now, .. Starting now with a -current snapshot means getting everything working in the meantime and then ordering the new CD's and installing

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
L. V. Lammert [l...@omnitec.net] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, davy wrote: Can I do a 4.1 - 5.4 in one shot? Nope. One version at a time, .. though the better solution would be to do a fresh install and copy data. I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It is

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
L. V. Lammert [l...@omnitec.net] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, davy wrote: Can I do a 4.1 - 5.4 in one shot? Nope. One version at a time, .. though the better solution would be to do a fresh install and copy data. What I'm recommending isn't really an upgrade so much as using the old box

Re: openvpn in rdomain hangs

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Giancarlo Razzolini [grazzol...@gmail.com] wrote: I've used rdomains, but not for this. In this case I would use mpath and pf only. I really do not see the need for using rdomains in this case. It introduces too much complexity for a simple thing. That's nice. But what about the problem?

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It's not a recommendation, it is reality. Each upgrade is based on the previuos version - skipping versions is not supported. Lee

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: What I'm recommending isn't really an upgrade so much as using the old box to bootstrap a newest snapshot. As long as the bootblocks are still compatible, you can do it. Why? A clean build on a new machine would be the best solution in that case, ..

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Brad Smith
On 06/02/14 12:45 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It's not a recommendation, it is reality. Each upgrade is based on the previuos version - skipping versions is not supported. There is a

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Kenneth Westerback
On 6 February 2014 12:31, L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Kenneth Westerback wrote: Well, that would imply waiting for May 1 or whenever the physical CD's are available. 5.4 is available now, .. Starting now with a -current snapshot means getting everything

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:45:52AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It's not a recommendation, it is reality. Each upgrade is based on the previuos version - skipping versions is not

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Kenneth Westerback
On 6 February 2014 12:40, Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net wrote: L. V. Lammert [l...@omnitec.net] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, davy wrote: Can I do a 4.1 - 5.4 in one shot? Nope. One version at a time, .. though the better solution would be to do a fresh install and copy data. What I'm

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Kenneth Westerback
On 6 February 2014 12:40, Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net wrote: L. V. Lammert [l...@omnitec.net] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, davy wrote: Can I do a 4.1 - 5.4 in one shot? Nope. One version at a time, .. though the better solution would be to do a fresh install and copy data. What I'm

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Marc Espie wrote: Nah, if you know what you're doing you can skip lots of versions. It's not recommmended because if you fuck up, well, you're on your own. The OP gave no such indication, .. hence my recommendation for step-by-step or new machine. Developers will laugh at

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 13:03, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Marc Espie wrote: Nah, if you know what you're doing you can skip lots of versions. It's not recommmended because if you fuck up, well, you're on your own. The OP gave no such indication, .. hence my recommendation for

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Matt M
Your best option would be to backup data and configs, and reinstall fresh. There are so many releases between 4.1 and 5.4 that you're going to spend a lot of time just to get to -current or -stable 5.4, while you're still gonna have to modify config files that have changes since 4.1 that it

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
L. V. Lammert [l...@omnitec.net] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It's not a recommendation, it is reality. Each upgrade is based on the previuos version - skipping versions is not supported. Because it

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Kenneth Westerback [kwesterb...@gmail.com] wrote: And, surprise!, boot blocks do change. 5.5 will be an example as things are rearranged and unified. But you can still use old bootblocks to run the new kernel as a bootstrap You don't get the proper random seed functionality until you

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Jiri B
Back to reality... Let's suppose I have very old OpenBSD box like it was written. Usually data should be OK (ftp data, web data, DB data dump??...), but can I just copy for example /etc/master.passwd to a new fresh installed 5.5-current? I'm asking because one had to regenerate /etc/{pwd,spwd}.db

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Brad Smith [b...@comstyle.com] wrote: On 06/02/14 12:45 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It's not a recommendation, it is reality. Each upgrade is based on the previuos version - skipping

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Joerg Goltermann
Thanks Brad, here is an updated version: Index: if_em.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_em.c,v retrieving revision 1.275 diff -u -p -r1.275 if_em.c --- if_em.c 28 Dec 2013 03:34:54 - 1.275 +++ if_em.c 6 Feb

Re: Intermittent stops in network traffic with urtw interface

2014-02-06 Thread Brian Curran
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:29:37AM -0500, Brad Smith wrote: On 06/02/14 9:25 AM, Alexey Suslikov wrote: Brian Curran brian at brianpcurran.com writes: when it stops passing traffic, does issuing ifconfig urtw0 scan help? I test this just now and it seemed to help, although I only started

Re: Intermittent stops in network traffic with urtw interface

2014-02-06 Thread Brian Curran
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 01:37:46PM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Brian Curran br...@brianpcurran.com wrote: Also perhaps of note is that 'arp -a' hangs indefinitely while the interface isn't receiving traffic. arp does IP-hostname lookups by default, which

Re: Intermittent stops in network traffic with urtw interface

2014-02-06 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Brian Curran br...@brianpcurran.com wrote: Also perhaps of note is that 'arp -a' hangs indefinitely while the interface isn't receiving traffic. arp does IP-hostname lookups by default, which probably involve DNS. Condition yourself to use the -n option with arp.

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:56:05AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: What I'm recommending isn't really an upgrade so much as using the old box to bootstrap a newest snapshot. As long as the bootblocks are still compatible, you can do it. Why? A

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014, at 04:07 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: It never hurts to be careful. And backup everything before you turn off those disks since they are old. Old disks keep running but often can't restart from a stop. If for some reason you do find yourself with disks that will not spin up

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Chris Bennett [chrisbenn...@bennettconstruction.us] wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:56:05AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: What I'm recommending isn't really an upgrade so much as using the old box to bootstrap a newest snapshot. As long as the

Re: Intel i210AT NICs

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Gray
Some other things to think about when comparing to the intel code in FreeBSD/Linux: igb_read_phy_reg_gs40g/igb_write_phy_reg_gs40g clearing of GS40G_CS_POWER_DOW to power up phy i210 specific part of igb_has_link() igb_acquire_swfw_sync_i210/igb_release_swfw_sync_i210

Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 03:54:17PM -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote: It never hurts to be careful. And backup everything before you turn off those disks since they are old. Old disks keep running but often can't restart from a stop. Yeah keep backups any of this crazy stuff will drive you