Hi all,
I am interested in comparing the morphological volume or volume of
morphospace between two groups of species. Does anyone know a good method
to do this?
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The Australian National University
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I'm looking for GM or other similar papers that include high numbers of 3D
models, like several hundreds or over a thousand. Particularly if these
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Quick update on the state of morphmet: Over the weekend, I lost some
administrative control over the 2014 version of morphmet. Fearing that this
was an indication that it would go down soon, I started sending out
invitations for a new version. At this point, most members who were
hometrics society or an editor of a journal that could take ownership
> of morphmet.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> F. James Rohlf, Distinguished Prof. Emeritus
>
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> Depts. of Anthropology and of Ecology & Evolution
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That is an interesting suggestion. Whatever we do next it should not depend on
any single individual. A problem is that we do not have a morphometrics society
or an editor of a journal that could take ownership of morphmet.
Jim
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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Dear Morphmet community,
Couple weeks prior to his sudden demise, I suggested Dennis to consider moving
the morphmet at some point to a modern forum platform that support markups,
code formatting and inline images.
You can check out https://discourse.slicer.org to see one in action. The main
... everything matters.
Víctor Hugo García Merchán M.Sc, Ph.D
Associate Professor - Evolutionary genetics
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I would like to know should centroid size correlates with measued
length or width? Or sometimes they uncorrelated. Also, does number of
landmarks has any roles in this correlation?
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Dear Fellow Morphometricians,
I want to give a quick comment about the future of morphmet after Dennis's
passing so that any necessary changes will not come as a surprise. Please
rest assure that it is not a question of whether morphmet will continue but
rather if any different procedures
t; stage & was thwarted by lack of zoom. I
> have some areas with high detail that have many landmarks close together,
> so I just can't manage to connect them correctly without being able to zoom
> in. Density is too high.
>
> Is this a limitation of the program or am I m
detail that have many landmarks close together,
> so I just can't manage to connect them correctly without being able to zoom
> in. Density is too high.
>
> Is this a limitation of the program or am I missing something simple?
>
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of the
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some sort of fund in his honour? Maybe FSU is already considering this?
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>>> Thank you for your time,
>>>
>>> James Soda
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 3:19 AM Carmelo Fruciano
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is extremely sad news. He has made enormous contributions to our
>>>> field and his figure will be greatly missed. I have had
scii",".ply")
>
> But I got the same errors
>
> I have tried additional tricks like changing the dimnames (including only
> numbers) by using this function data2=array(data, dim=c(19,3,10)) and
> changing the names of my .ply models but I got always the same error
>
>
ply models but I got always the same error
>
> Obviously the error is related with my array dimnames but I don’t know how I
> can solve this, thus I´m looking for advice
>
> Thanks in advance for any help, advice or suggestion
>
> best wishes
>
> Pablo
>
>
=
>> Carmelo Fruciano
>> Institute of Biology
>> Ecole Normale Superieure - Paris
>> CNRS
>> http://www.fruciano.it/research/
>>
>>
>> On 15/06/2019 16:55, mitte...@univie.ac.at wrote:
>> > Dear subscribers to morphmet,
>> &g
ttp://www.fruciano.it/research/
>
>
> On 15/06/2019 16:55, mitte...@univie.ac.at wrote:
> > Dear subscribers to morphmet,
> >
> > With the deepest grief we must inform you of the sudden
> > death on June 13 of Prof. Dennis E. Slice,
> >
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Unfortunate and deeply disturbed to hear the sudden demise of Prof. Slice.
May his sou
Dear MORPHMET community,
I am still struggling to process this tragic news. Dennis was on my
master’s thesis committee at Florida State University in 2010–2012. He was
truly a great mentor who introduced me to the theory and practice of
geometric morphometrics, which has shaped my
I'm really sorry. My condolences to all morphometricians.
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mitte...@univie.ac.at> escribió:
> Dear subscribers to morphmet,
>
> With the deepest grief we must inform you of the sudden
> death on June 13
Dear all,
Below please find the link to Dennis Slice’s obituary:
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/tallahassee-fl/dennis-slice-8744377
<https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/tallahassee-fl/dennis-slice-8744377>
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, he was unique. We will miss him in all these ways.
Fred Bookstein, Cinzia Fornai, Philipp Gunz,
Philipp Mitteroecker, Simon Neubauer, Katrin Schaefer,
Horst Seidler, Gerhard Weber, Sonja Windhager
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olerance and/or the bending=TRUE but nothing has
changed.
What could I change in these commands? Are these steps mandatory to analyse the
shape?
Any comment, advice and suggestion is more than welcome!
Thanks a lot for your help.
Aurélien Lowie
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aligned data from TPSRelw. But again something went wrong
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> With the deepest grief we must inform you of the sudden
> death on June 13 of Prof. Dennis E. Slice,
> holder of the fourth Rohlf Award for Excellence in Morphometrics
> and tireless
What a tragic loss! I will ever miss his superb contributions to
morphometrics, as well as his nice sense of humour.
Em sáb, 15 de jun de 2019 às 11:55, mitte...@univie.ac.at <
mitte...@univie.ac.at> escreveu:
> Dear subscribers to morphmet,
>
> With the deepest grief
I never had the pleasure of meeting him. I knew him only through his work.
But his work was exceptional. This is a great loss. Condolences to those
closest to him.
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 3:55 PM mitte...@univie.ac.at
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>
> With the deep
> wrote:
>> Dear subscribers to morphmet,
>>
>> With the deepest grief we must inform you of the sudden
>> death on June 13 of Prof. Dennis E. Slice,
>> holder of the fourth Rohlf Award for Excellence in Morphometrics
>> and tireless f
What a loss! My condolences to the family and friends.
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 20:25 mitte...@univie.ac.at,
wrote:
> Dear subscribers to morphmet,
>
> With the deepest grief we must inform you of the sudden
> death on June 13 of Prof. Dennis E. Slice,
> holde
What terrible news. My sympathies to all his family, friends, colleagues, and
students.
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Dear subscribers to morphmet,
With the deepest grief we must inform you of the sudden
death on June 13 of Prof. Dennis E. Slice,
holder of the fourth Rohlf Award for Excellence in Morphometrics
and tireless founder and moderator of this newsgroup,
who suffered
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I will use the Mahalanobis distance for the minimum spanning tree and
dendogram to compare the minimum spanning tree and dendogram of the
original sample size?
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Hello! I would like to ask for help as I use the book of Dryden and Mardia,
"Statistical Shape Analysis with Application in R"? I cannot find where in
the book (or maybe I just overlooked), how did he plot the mean shapes in
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icient, perhaps not even necessary. If the signal (morphological
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> Some of you may have been in the auditorium in the Department of Botany,
> University of Vienna, back in March whe
627448v1
For those of you who were at the March meeting, this is the argument
(complete with formulas) defending my stern condemnation there. I won't try
to summarize it in this morphmet note -- if you're interested, just read
the abstract on page 1 of the link. For those of you who have already
different surfaces obtained and then create one surface but perhaps several
> of you have some tips to obtain the most complete possible surface scans.
>
> Any suggestion and advice is more than welcome
>
> All best,
>
> Pablo
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processing software have functions to fuse
>> and/or align the different surfaces obtained and then create one surface
>> but perhaps several of you have some tips to obtain the most complete
>> possible surface scans.
>>
>> Any suggestion and advice is more than we
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It depends on what is wrong
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Third time's a charm?
The previous, shorter link directs you through FSU libraries with a
requisite login.
Trying again. I think this will take you directly to the article...
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13752-019-00320-y
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> [Posted on behalf of Dr. Bookstein]
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> Dear MorphMetters,
>
> I'm happy to announce that my paper "Reflections on a Biometrics of
>
or questions or queries or pass on to
potentially interested parties.
Thanks for your help,
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urces and the
rhetoric of biological explanations of organismal form both over evolution
and over development.
As always I welcome all comments on these ideas, enthusiastic or otherwise.
Fred Bookstein
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Almost 2 years ago Emma Sherratt and I posted a survey here asking your
feedback on generation and use of digital morphology data, and we are happy
to announce that those results have now been published in a Comment article
in Scientific Data titled '*Psychology
is more than welcome
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>
> Pablo
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to review the MORPHMET archive as questions
regarding 3D scanning and data collection pop up pretty regularly.
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Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark*
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tion software have
> improved tremendously (almost to the point of real-time in some cases), but
> I believe process is essentially the same. Perhaps someone with more recent
> knowledge of this technology can chime in.
>
>
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> M
>
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> *From:* Pablo Fisichel
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> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 7:29 AM
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to fuse
and/or align the different surfaces obtained and then create one surface
but perhaps several of you have some tips to obtain the most complete
possible surface scans.
Any suggestion and advice is more than welcome
All best,
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>> mdelgadoburb...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I'm using landmarks (.ladmarkAscii) and B-splines (.am) derived from
>>> Avizo (Standard Edition 7.1.0). I have used previously the Arothron and Nat
>>> packages to l
S to do the regression of shape and size, and then use the
> obtained residual as the principal component analysis? In addition to this
> analysis, what other aspects can I do? Looking forward to reply.Thanks very
> much!
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? In addition to this analysis, what other
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>
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> *From:* Antonio Profico
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read Avizo files in R or know a way to succesfully load such files into the
R console? Thanks for any suggestion
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t over, is there a certain number of LMs I *need* to have? Is there
> a minimum? How will this change the results if I don't have a lot? The "New"
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Subject: [MORPHMET] Visualizing shape differences in PCA
Dear all,
I'm using the Geomorph package in R to do the PCA. It shows the negative-most
and positive-most shapes of a PC, which is really great. I just want to ask if
there is any way to visualize shape change along
will this change the results if I don't have a lot? The "New"
method would include 9 LMs.
Thank you to any help/advice you can give me!
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along a PC, rather than just at the two-end points?
Thank you very much for taking your time to look at my question!
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Charles
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interpretation of the results from the experts of the Morphmet community. The
article will be sent to peer review once the formal description of a couple of
the species used have been published.
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>> morphospace (as in the Olsen et al. 2017). However, part of the outline
>> involves a local pointy structure that is functionally important, but that
>> simply disappears from the outlines of the morphospace. I tried to increase
>> the number of landmarks, but the proble
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> involves a local pointy structure that is functionally important, but that
> simply disappears from the outlines of the morphospace. I tried to increase
> the number of landmarks, but the problem remains. Any help would be greatly
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