[Mpls] Biernat enters federal prison camp in Duluth

2003-06-03 Thread Shawn Lewis
Biernat enters federal prison camp in Duluth Published June 3, 2003 Former Minneapolis City Council Member Joe Biernat has begun serving a 21-month sentence on public corruption charges at the federal prison camp in Duluth. He reported to the camp after a federal appeals court Frida

[Mpls] Biernat appeal on delay of prison term denied

2003-06-01 Thread Shawn Lewis
Biernat appeal on delay of prison term denied Published May 31, 2003 A bid by former Minneapolis City Council Member Joe Biernat to stay out of prison has been rejected by the Eighth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Biernat's request was rejected Friday in a brief order. He asked the Ap

Re: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint

2002-11-25 Thread Andy Driscoll
> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:28:11 -0800 (PST) > To: Andy Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint > > Is this response a DFL variation on the 60's > republican response "America love it or leave it"?

Re: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint

2002-11-25 Thread dain lyngstad
Is this response a DFL variation on the 60's republican response"America love it or leave it"? I was born and spent 35years in the Phillips neighborhood and live now in Edina because, I found a fixer upper with taxes 2/3's of my old Mpls. taxes. When I lived in Phillips, from childhood on ,I was cr

Re: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint

2002-11-24 Thread Andy Driscoll
Then I would urge naysayers to elect new ones. But it would be wise that one move into the city where one wishes to dislodge the DFL. You can hardly do so from an Edina residence. We live in a democracy, do we not? Move in and run, disgruntled ones. Move in and complain. Move in and un-elect them

Re: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint

2002-11-24 Thread dain lyngstad
litical journalism > in America has its roots in the clubby/cocktail > personal relationships that > inevitably develop between politicians and > journalists. When professional > antagonists become after-hours drinking buddies, > they are not likely to turn > each other in."

Re: [Mpls] Biernat conviction

2002-11-24 Thread Andy Driscoll
Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail    1973 Andy > From: "Fran Guminga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:06:40 -0600 > To: "Mpls Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Mpls] Biernat conviction > > Some people are downplaying th

[Mpls] Biernat conviction

2002-11-24 Thread Fran Guminga
Some people are downplaying the fact that Joe Biernat confessed to perverting his public trust, no matter how venal the amount or the circumstances. Some are praising the man for being "kind" and "compassionate." He has been described as "hard working." He was praised for "his" Kondirator fight. J

RE: [Mpls] Biernat replacements + scheduling (corrected)

2002-11-23 Thread Melendez, Brian
Sorry, I was mixing up my months in my earlier message. The corrected version appears below. Thanks to David Brauer for catching the mistakes. BRM -Original Message- From: Melendez, Brian Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:56 PM To: 'David Brauer'; 'Mpls list&

[Mpls] Biernat replacements + scheduling

2002-11-23 Thread Melendez, Brian
David Brauer asks, "1. The general election needs to be within 75 days - looks like Feb. 3 is 72 days away from 11/21, and a Monday. Why not make it a Tuesday, the traditional day of the week for election day? 2. (This might answer #1). What's the window for primaries? Was there any way to

Re: [Mpls] Biernat replacements + scheduling

2002-11-23 Thread Andy Driscoll
My word, scions and scionesses of Minneapolis political dynasties. They seem to be in these days. Andy > From: "David Brauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:50:11 -0600 > To: "'Mpls list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subjec

Re: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint

2002-11-23 Thread Andy Driscoll
02 11:14:16 EST > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint > > Please don't flood the list with replies to this, because it's a different > viewpoint that I feel compelled to present. > > I worked with Joe Biernat for a little over fiv

Re: [Mpls] Biernat resignation

2002-11-23 Thread Peter Klausler
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 09:59:10AM -0600, Michael Atherton wrote: > I am fearful that this is because his > behavior simply reflects business as usual in city > hall (another reason the DFL should have forced him > to resign earlier). It helps to have the courage of your convictions, especially wh

[Mpls] Biernat - Another Viewpoint

2002-11-23 Thread KarenCollier
Please don't flood the list with replies to this, because it's a different viewpoint that I feel compelled to present. I worked with Joe Biernat for a little over five years.  I did not know Joe prior to joining the crew on the third floor of City Hall.  I'm not a member of the political party to

Re: [Mpls] Biernat resignation

2002-11-23 Thread Michael Atherton
Tamir Nolley wrote: > Ironically, I see Joe Biernat as a victim of such > enforcement. In some ways he contributed to that > environment, but the tacticts of Sean Boylan, and > Ashcroft's justice department in general, I think, are > disgusting, at one point even threateing to harass > Biernat's

[Mpls] Biernat replacements + scheduling

2002-11-23 Thread David Brauer
Strib reports the following possible candidates: Valdis Rozentals (will run) Kari Dziedzic (across the street from pre-redistricted ward, whose boundaries govern this election, but in the new ward. Will decide this weekend.) Diane Hofstede (mulling it over) Michael Rainville (unavailable for comme

[Mpls] Biernat resignation

2002-11-23 Thread Tamir Nolley
I've been trying to follow this thread, but I haven't been able to get the list by e-mail. Dave, if you could help me with that, I'd be most appreciative. Anyways, I profoundly disagreed with many of Joe Biernat's votes, attitudes, and once had a rather sharp exchange with him over his actions co

[Mpls] biernat resignation, mpls housing density in the PP

2002-11-22 Thread Borger, Judith Yates
  Biernat resigns from City Council Hours after a jury convicted him of five felony counts, Minneapolis City Council member Joe Biernat resigned, Council President Paul Ostrow said this morning. Ostrow also said a primary election on Dec.

Re: [Mpls] Biernat, guilty in five of seven

2002-11-22 Thread MJ Mueller
"City officials would not speculate on whether Biernat's conviction would automatically force him to quit the council." _ City Officials may not be speculating, and in fact I'm not speculating either. It is quite clear to me that Biernat should do what is right and get the hell ou

[Mpls] Biernat resigns

2002-11-22 Thread List Manager
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[Mpls] Biernat, guilty in five of seven

2002-11-21 Thread Rosalind Nelson
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3447992.html "City officials would not speculate on whether Biernat's conviction would automatically force him to quit the council." Rosalind Nelson Bancroft ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion

RE: Ethics at City Hall - An Oxymoron? WAS: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-21 Thread Pamela Taylor
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eva Young Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:43 AM To: Garwood, Robin; 'Mpls list' Subject: Ethics at City Hall - An Oxymoron? WAS: [Mpls] Biernat Trial Robin Garwood wrote: Are thinly-veile

Ethics at City Hall - An Oxymoron? WAS: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-21 Thread Eva Young
At 10:09 AM 11/21/2002 -0600, Garwood, Robin wrote: I think it would elevate this debate slightly if we could get away from a narrow focus on "criminal misconduct". In my opinion, "not criminal" is far too low a standard to which to hold our elected officials. EY: Exactly. I think it also woul

RE: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-21 Thread Garwood, Robin
I think it would elevate this debate slightly if we could get away from a narrow focus on "criminal misconduct". In my opinion, "not criminal" is far too low a standard to which to hold our elected officials. I've heard that the measure used by the Supreme Court to decide cases dealing with campa

RE: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-21 Thread David Brauer
Jordan wrote: There does not seem to be a question that he got free plumbing work through a union official, and then supported that official's appointment to a board. This much raises serious ethical questions but would not serve as the basis for a federal extortion case - it is more accurately c

Re: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-21 Thread Jordan S. Kushner
- Original Message - From: "Theresa Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Brauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mpls list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Biernat Trial > And pl

Re: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-20 Thread Theresa Carr
And please identify yourself as Selwin Ortega's legal counsel, Mr. Kushner. Theresa Carr Phillips - Original Message - From: "David Brauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mpls list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:32 PM

Re: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-20 Thread Michael C. Libby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 20 November 2002 20:34, Michael Atherton wrote: > Jordan Kushner wrote: > > From my limited observation of Biernat, I could easily see him > > making a false confession. What always struck me (before the > > indictment) was Joe's unyi

Re: [Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-20 Thread Michael Atherton
Jordan Kushner wrote: > From my limited observation of Biernat, I could easily see him making a > false confession. What always struck me (before the indictment) was Joe's > unyielding reverence to power and authority. This "strength" in the > Minneapolis DFL machine turned out to be his fat

[Mpls] Biernat summations

2002-11-20 Thread List Manager
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[Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-20 Thread David Brauer
Jordan writes: > Based on press reports about Joe Biernat's trial, it appears that the > federal government's case against him is based almost entirely on his signed > confessions. There does not seem to be a question that he got free plumbing > work through a union official, and then supported t

[Mpls] Biernat Trial

2002-11-20 Thread Jordan Kushner
Based on press reports about Joe Biernat's trial, it appears that the federal government's case against him is based almost entirely on his signed confessions. There does not seem to be a question that he got free plumbing work through a union official, and then supported that official's appointme

[Mpls] Biernat Trial Begins

2002-11-05 Thread Dooley, Bill
I must admit I never thought this case would go to trial. Here is the link: http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/4449598.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Bill Dooley Kenny ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Demo

[Mpls] Biernat again seeks to dismiss indictments

2002-10-26 Thread Shawn Lewis
Biernat again seeks to dismiss indictments Rochelle Olson Published Oct. 26, 2002 Minneapolis City Council Member Joe Biernat is again seeking to dismiss some of the federal charges against him, this time partly on the grounds of vindictive prosecution. A pretrial hearing is scheduled

Re: [Mpls] Biernat: He was scared and his tummy hurt

2002-09-17 Thread Michael Atherton
Victoria Heller wrote: > It's a symptom though of a much bigger problem: The epidemic of justifying > horrible conduct by CREATING excuses. We can blame the public for their willingness to accept such excuses. Kudos to Paul Zerby for being the one and only councilmember to have the courage to

Re: [Mpls] Biernat: what would his statement be without "coersion"?

2002-09-17 Thread Michelle Mensing
PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: [Mpls] Biernat: He was scared and his tummy hurt > Is this what we call leadership? This sounds like something a five year old > girl would say. > > It's a symptom though of a much bigger problem: The epidemic of ju

Re: [Mpls] Biernat: He was scared and his tummy hurt

2002-09-17 Thread Rosalind Nelson
This is the problem with having a council member still in office while under indictment. He has a right to defend himself, even if it's by making himself look clueless and stupid. What does it say about his effectiveness as an elected official, though, that he is fighting to have his cluelessn

Re: [Mpls] Biernat: He was scared and his tummy hurt

2002-09-17 Thread Robert Schmid
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 08:33 AM, Victoria Heller wrote: > Is this what we call leadership? This sounds like something a five > year old > girl would say. > > It's a symptom though of a much bigger problem: The epidemic of > justifying > horrible conduct by CREATING excuses. > > I

[Mpls] Biernat: He was scared and his tummy hurt

2002-09-17 Thread Victoria Heller
Is this what we call leadership? This sounds like something a five year old girl would say. It's a symptom though of a much bigger problem: The epidemic of justifying horrible conduct by CREATING excuses. In the private sector, one gets paid for producing results, not for coming up with 20 rea

RE: [Mpls] Biernat Had 'Full Knowledge'

2002-07-26 Thread Joe Barisonzi
List, Earlier on this list I wrote that I felt CM Beirnet had a moral responsibility to resign if he knew he had violated the public trust. Clearly there is an increasing amount of evidence that he has violated the public trust. Independent of the legal process of what is admissible, and whose l

RE: [Mpls] Biernat Had 'Full Knowledge'

2002-07-26 Thread Eva Young
>CM Beirnet's inability to do the honorable thing and resign, and the >lack of pressure from other council members and the mayor will force an >unfortunate and costly situation where all council members will have to >run for election in new wards next year. One of the negative >consequences of thi

RE: [Mpls] Biernat Had 'Full Knowledge'

2002-07-26 Thread j c harmon
You raise some good points, although hoping for Biernat's moral fiber to reawaken rather assumes that he has some. I suspect most of his fiber these days comes in a cereal box. JHarmon Cleveland _ Send and receive Ho

RE: [Mpls] Biernat

2002-05-23 Thread Walt Cygan
Jude Poseley wrote: > If nothing else, the Biernat indictments prove that > Minneapolis government is pretty clean. After all, the > DA has spent almost a year and gazillion hours of staff > time and netted a $2700 alleged plumbing bill and a false > invoice sent through the mail. Few of us could

Re: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-23 Thread Tim Bonham
Eddie Felien ought'a know. It was his dirty deal with Herron back at the 1991 endorsing convention that put Brian Herron into office. Tim Bonham, Standish Ericsson, Ward 12 >Herron was a classier dirty politician than some others. Ed Felien wrote a >piece last summer "Herron Takes a Dive," tha

Re: [Mpls] Biernat

2002-05-23 Thread Gregory Luce
Someone asked "where's the beef?" and others think, hey, no biggie, didn't involve too much money here in alleged fraud, theft, etc. Others have suggested that, since there has been no conviction or admission of guilt, what's the beef with asking CM Biernat to step down. Here's my beef: Whe

Re: [Mpls] Biernat

2002-05-23 Thread Poseleyj
If nothing else, the Biernat indictments prove that Minneapolis government is pretty clean. After all, the DA has spent almost a year and gazillion hours of staff time and netted a $2700 alleged plumbing bill and a false invoice sent through the mail. Few of us could bear that level of prosecut

[Mpls] Biernat/Herron coverage

2002-05-23 Thread Steve Brandt
Matthea Little Smith made this point: I surely question why Brian Herron got all of the press for admitting to his crime and Joe Biernat is getting much less press for "fighting" for his political career and in my opinion making a "mockery" of our city political system that is already fragile.

[Mpls] Re: [Mpls] Biernat case.  Where's the beef?

2002-05-23 Thread Valdis2001
First I would like to say that Joe has not been proven guilty of anything yet. That said……… I find Paul Ostrows concern for Joe’s ability to serve on the very board that is to decide what happens to reform the very system that he is accused of abusing a bulls eye! In many neighborhood

RE: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Pamela Taylor
Hey All, I agree with Joe on this one! With all the conflict of interest stuff the city holds neighborhood board members accountable to, I think it only fitting the city council and others politicians are expected to behave a certain way, too. And we have an election coming up in Florida for Go

[Mpls] Biernat

2002-05-22 Thread Many Crows
While I am glad we are innocent until proven guilty, this is beginning to smell and look like what we all know it to be. If he does sing and take others down, I am at least glad that the dirty closet may eventually smell clean. But how does that change the politics of this city and especially the

RE: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Young, Susan A
In skimming the list today, I believe that I missed the news article that told me that Mr. Biernat was found guilty of a crime. Could someone please send me the article, or, could folks please remember that even elected folks should receive due process. Susan Young Yes, currently City Employee

Re: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Rosalind Nelson
Herron was a classier dirty politician than some others. Ed Felien wrote a piece last summer "Herron Takes a Dive," that ended with this: There’s one final difference between the “sweet talkin’ son of a preacher man” from the Eighth Ward and other politicians, he came to believe that what he h

Re: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Michelle Mensing
Although the dollar amount wasn't that big, I think the lapse in ethics is still relevant. Why can't we expect our elected officials to know better than receiving even one free dollar worth of services from somebody, especially someone who might then do business with the city or potentially be ap

Re: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread M Smith
Alan: I have more respect for those that admit their crimes and are willing to pay the consequences of their behavior upfront rather than have their constituents pay additional dollars to go through an extensive court costs. I surely question why Brian Herron got all of the press for admitting t

RE: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Joe Barisonzi
ss his father and his father's former employer appointed the members of the jury) Joseph Barisonzi Lyndale, Ward 10 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alan Shilepsky Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [M

Re: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Andy Driscoll
Paul -- "Action may not always bring happiness, but there is no happiness without action." - Benjamin Disraeli > From: Alan Shilepsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:06:31 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef? &g

[Mpls] Biernat case. Where's the beef?

2002-05-22 Thread Alan Shilepsky
Speaking as one who did not support Joe Biernat for reelection, I have not been overly impressed so far by the seriousness of the charges against Joe Biernat. $2,700 in free services? Let's see, some stores triple the cost of the products they sell. If such a markup prevailed here it would be $

[Mpls] Biernat

2002-04-19 Thread Dave Piehl
How suprising can it be to hear that Joe Biernat engaged in questionable (at best) practices, when he was one of a handful in city hall "proclaiming" that other than Brian Herron, city government was not corrupt. How could Mr. Biernat "know" there was no more corruption with so little informatio

[Mpls] Biernat

2002-04-18 Thread brian monroe
I don't think anyone is blaming Joe Biernat's supporters. In fact they would be the biggest victims of one way or another. I think Joe being gone would be the best for the neighborhood and the city, that's why I did run against him. He will likely be gone soon. I think the important thing now is to

Re: [Mpls] Biernat indictment

2002-04-18 Thread Lisa McDonald
1 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Biernat indictment  Just so everyone knows:  If it was not for the 9-11 disaster, all of this would have happened before the election last fall, and more than likely Biernat would not have run for reelection.  Most of the FBI agents were taken off the City cor

[Mpls] Biernat indictment

2002-04-18 Thread steven meldahl
Just so everyone knows:  If it was not for the 9-11 disaster, all of this would have happened before the election last fall, and more than likely Biernat would not have run for reelection.  Most of the FBI agents were taken off the City corruption scandal to concentrate on our national secur

Re: [Mpls] Biernat

2002-04-18 Thread Valdis2001
I for one would like to agree that an indictment is not a conviction. I have been inundated with calls and emails about this all day. We sometimes forget the consequences of our actions. I do not defend any wrong doing. But I do feel bad for what his family will have to endure in the future.

[Mpls] Biernat endictment

2002-04-18 Thread Fran Guminga
Let's remember that Biernat has been indicted, not convicted. That said, if the conclusion to this sad episode is that he is convicted, it will be because he has no understanding of the public trust associated with his office. He has acted like a feudal lord rather than a public servant. This has

[Mpls] BIERNAT indictment It's about time

2002-04-18 Thread brian monroe
I ran for 3rd ward council. One of the central themes of my campaign was Joe does not follow rules or council procedures and therefore is not fit for office. I hope he steps down gracefully. That would mean the top four of the past regime are out of office.  

Re: [Mpls] Biernat

2002-04-18 Thread David Brauer
Rosalind Nelson writes: on 4/18/02 1:49 PM, Rosalind Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Some of our public officials may be corrupt, but nobody can say they're > overpriced. From the Strib article: > > "The indictment says that between March and May 1999, Biernat sought and > received labor, m

[Mpls] Biernat

2002-04-18 Thread Rosalind Nelson
Some of our public officials may be corrupt, but nobody can say they're overpriced. From the Strib article: "The indictment says that between March and May 1999, Biernat sought and received labor, materials and improvements valued at $2,700 for work at 707 Main St. NE., a house that he then owned

[Mpls] Biernat Indicted

2002-04-18 Thread talltom
I justheard the last few seconds of an MPR report: Joe Biernat and two others (not council members) have been indicted for something. US Attorney Tom Heffelfinger is calling a news conference this aftrenoon. Tom Donaldson Ventura Village ___ Minneapolis Issu

Re: [Mpls] Biernat Lit

2001-10-03 Thread Many Crows
I think if you look at Joe's voting record and his response to citizens you will see he seems to favor whatever the police want and he doesn't seem to encourage participation much less hear what people outside of the tight dfl circle have to say. I'm sure his definition of democracy is quite a bit

[Mpls] Biernat Lit

2001-10-03 Thread Tim Bonham
In the interest of substantive discussion, could you explain why this made you laugh? Do you think Mr. Biernat is not in favor of the American flag and the nation for which it stands, or do you think he does not support democracy, or what? After all, having the flag and other