On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 04:37:36PM +0530 or thereabouts, Mrinal Kalakrishnan wrote:
* Using multiple e-mail addresses in Mutt
* Managing mailing lists with Mutt
* Using keybindings to customize mutt
* Color setups for folder index, mail header and mail body
* managing mails via IMAP
*
Telsa Gwynne proclaimed on mutt-users that:
I am sure I have seen brief notes on setting up "roles" a la pine
from someone. That might be worth doing, too. I shall play Hunt The
URL later.
Martti Rahkila has a good page on this - the link was posted earlier.
I'm a big fan of DocBook. If you're
* Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000701 03:31]:
HELP: mutt dumps core
or
HUMOR: pine sucks
I could see a branch like:
HELP: how do I use these tags
Thus, straying from the whole purpose of the list. I personally like the way
freebsd has it set up.
mutt-questions
mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net has been set up, and there's a mailing list as
well ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 00:57:27 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailman results for Mutt-newbie-list
Note that
Wow, this is one crazy-looking thread! It's hard to know on which
branch to post a response.
As Eugene said, the original problem was the frustration of experienced
members with new members who didn't read the documentation before
posting simple questions. Why don't people read the
Gary Johnson proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Wow, this is one crazy-looking thread! It's hard to know on which
branch to post a response.
Easy to do - bin all the useless / m3 t00 posts in a long thread and
you'll have something manageable.
I think a FAQ would be a good solution to this. The
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:45:07AM -0400 or thereabouts, David T-G wrote:
Not particularly; I just want to help out the faq project to get some
quick answers for folks and unclutter the list.
Unclutter the list? Would a different mailing list addy help? IN FreeBSD they
have a
Rino Mardo proclaimed on mutt-users that:
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:45:07AM -0400 or thereabouts, David T-G wrote:
Not particularly; I just want to help out the faq project to get some
quick answers for folks and unclutter the list.
Unclutter the list? Would a different mailing list
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 03:40:27PM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Ditto with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and such. But why do you want to
fragment the list?
A better way is to introduce list topics, and have people subscribed only
to specific topics. Listserv supports it (and
Rino Mardo proclaimed on mutt-users that:
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 03:40:27PM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Ditto with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and such. But why do you want to
fragment the list?
A better way is to introduce list topics, and have people subscribed only
to
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 04:03:19PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Actually, listserv allows people to add tags to their subject - something
like
HELP: mutt dumps core
or whatever.
People can subscribe to see only whichever topics they choose.
I have hosted a LISTSERV (TM) list
rex proclaimed on mutt-users that:
I have hosted a LISTSERV (TM) list with about 400 subscribers for
several years. The only way to make topics work on my list is to
moderate it, i.e., the moderator must approve each post and possibly
It works really well on the spam-l mailing list -
[EMAIL
David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that:
%
% Mrinal's idea of using CVS for this is pretty good, given such a
% situation.
%
% Could some kind soul please contribute a CVS repository for this?
Show me how and I'll be happy to. mutt.sector13.org will be coming on
line soon for this sort of
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:03:29PM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
: On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:45:07AM -0400 or thereabouts, David T-G wrote:
:
: Not particularly; I just want to help out the faq project to get some
: quick answers for folks and unclutter the list.
:
: Unclutter the list? Would a
Eugene Lee proclaimed on mutt-users that:
I'm also interested in helping out with a Mutt FAQ project. So who's in
charge of the beast? :)
mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net has been set up - I and Mrinal Kalakrishnan
mrinal @ india.com have elected ourselves as sacrificial goats and will
take charge
Byrial Jensen proclaimed on mutt-users that:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 16:41:12 -0400, David T-G wrote:
Yeah. I've since learned that there isn't any sort of "documentation
group" for mutt, so we have nobody to ask. Time to call for volunteers,
I don't volunteer to write. It must be a job for
Mrinal Kalakrishnan proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Why don't you post each FAQ to the list as each one is done (all in
one thread) so that people can suggest changes, as well as track it's
development?
'k. Here (as printed in lynx) is what index.html will look like ...
(thanks to Sven for a
Hi,
Suresh Ramasubramanian typed:
* Using multiple e-mail addresses in Mutt
* Managing mailing lists with Mutt
* Using keybindings to customize mutt
* Color setups for folder index, mail header and mail body
* managing mails via IMAP
* managing mails via POP
* using digital signatures
*
Mrinal Kalakrishnan proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Suresh Ramasubramanian typed:
* Using multiple e-mail addresses in Mutt
done
* Managing mailing lists with Mutt
mostly done
* Using keybindings to customize mutt
to do
* Color setups for folder index, mail header and mail body
done
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 04:01:47PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Why don't you post each FAQ to the list as each one is done (all in
one thread) so that people can suggest changes, as well as track it's
development?
[...]
The original author of Mutt was Michael Elkins.
(I think
Marius Gedminas proclaimed on mutt-users that:
The original author of Mutt was Michael Elkins.
(I think ME still *is* the original author.)
grammatically speaking, he was, is and will be :)
my_hdr From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This won't fix your (I mean, the
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:35:40AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Byrial Jensen proclaimed on mutt-users that:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 16:41:12 -0400, David T-G wrote:
Yeah. I've since learned that there isn't any sort of "documentation
group" for mutt, so we have nobody to ask.
Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Perhaps you all will consider contributing anyway. Whether an author is a
native Engish speaker or not, all of the draft documentation should be
edited for a consistent grammar, style, spelling etc. I am a native
English speaker -- OK, American --
Suresh, et al --
...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said...
% Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Actually, nothing pertinent to this question, I don't think...
%
% Mrinal's idea of using CVS for this is pretty good, given such a
% situation.
%
% Could some kind soul please
Mrinal's idea of using CVS for this is pretty good, given such a
situation.
Could some kind soul please contribute a CVS repository for this?
I lost track of this thread. The Mutt Documentation Project?
Use SourceForge.
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 04:01:47PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian muttered:
Mrinal Kalakrishnan proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Why don't you post each FAQ to the list as each one is done (all in
one thread) so that people can suggest changes, as well as track it's
development?
'k. Here
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 05:19:04PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian muttered:
Mrinal Kalakrishnan proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Suresh Ramasubramanian typed:
* using digital signatures
Has to be done
I just recently got GPG running, so may be able to do something there.
And one more
Hi,
Suresh Ramasubramanian typed:
Is this some local CVS? How about putting it on the mutt CVS
I plan to do this - someplace like sourceforge say?
Yeah - that would be nice. Maybe - mutt-guide.sourceforge.net?
I can set that up if required - just give me a holler. I'm jobless for
24 hours a
Hi,
David T-G typed:
% Could some kind soul please contribute a CVS repository for this?
Show me how and I'll be happy to. mutt.sector13.org will be coming on
line soon for this sort of stuff.
You really want to take the trouble? Or is mutt-guide.sourceforge.net
enough? If we register with
Hi,
Lars Hecking typed:
Mrinal's idea of using CVS for this is pretty good, given such a
situation.
Could some kind soul please contribute a CVS repository for this?
I lost track of this thread. The Mutt Documentation Project?
Yeah.
Use SourceForge.
I was about to create a project
Mrinal --
...and then Mrinal Kalakrishnan said...
% Hi,
Hello!
%
% David T-G typed:
% % Could some kind soul please contribute a CVS repository for this?
% Show me how and I'll be happy to. mutt.sector13.org will be coming on
% line soon for this sort of stuff.
%
% You really want to
Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that:
The original author of Mutt was Michael Elkins.
And still is, as has been noted.
Was, is and will be. If the grammar's bad, please do excuse me :)
Mutt has much more features than Microsoft Outlook Express and other
many
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 05:19:04PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
imap and pop using mutt's checking features _and_ using fetchmail. Being
worked on - but I am thinking of how to differentiate betn when to use
mutt's imap features and when to poll mails using fetchmail.
I don't use
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:16:04PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
If GPL is a-ok with y'all it's a-ok with me.
Now _please_ don't start a license war over this ;)
I think that a manual should come with the same license as the program.
Kai
--
Kai Blin proclaimed on mutt-users that:
I don't use imap all that often here - so someone who reads imap folders
with mutt extensively could help a bit ...
I do all my mail stuff with IMAP/SSL, what do you need for help?
Put together a short howto on this - with all the "gotchas" - about
Kai Blin proclaimed on mutt-users that:
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:16:04PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
If GPL is a-ok with y'all it's a-ok with me.
Now _please_ don't start a license war over this ;)
I think that a manual should come with the same license as the program.
so
On 2000.06.30, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Mrinal Kalakrishnan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The advantage with LinuxDoc/DocBook DTDs is that you can convert it to
any format you like later. So you can have an online HTML version,
plain text, PS, PDF, etc.. (like the mutt docs)
The
David Champion proclaimed on mutt-users that:
On 2000.06.30, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Mrinal Kalakrishnan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The advantage with LinuxDoc/DocBook DTDs is that you can convert it to
any format you like later. So you can have an online HTML version,
plain text, PS,
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:22:03PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian muttered:
Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Get up and running with mutt
Mutt will work out of the box, but there are a few things which may
have to be tweaked. For example, you might want to get
On 2000.06.30, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Suresh Ramasubramanian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
get them processed on Unix. Maybe that's not necessary, but I always
argue with any decision that (in practice) drives data or a process out
of the realm of portability.
... so what format do you
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 01:16:34PM -0600, Charles Curley muttered:
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:22:03PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian muttered:
Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that:
Get up and running with mutt
Mutt will work out of the box, but there are a few
Hi Charles!
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Charles Curley wrote:
OK, then perhaps, " Other installation options add code for features such
as colored text, Gnu regular expressions, GSS, IMAP, PGP, and SSL.
Make that GNU. It's an acronym: "Gnu's Not Unix."
^^^
Make
Hi,
Suresh Ramasubramanian typed:
... so what format do you suggest? HTML is the best - still (imho)
IMHO, HTML is clumsy, and is not structured like LinuxDoc is for
documentation.
Anyway, lets see.. :-)
--
Mrinal Kalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mrinal.dhs.org/
Linux 2.2.16 ||
Hi,
David Champion typed:
The advantage with LinuxDoc/DocBook DTDs is that you can convert it to
any format you like later. So you can have an online HTML version,
plain text, PS, PDF, etc.. (like the mutt docs)
The disadvantage, last time I checked, is that it's still tedious to
get
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:08:28PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
[...]
for starters? Heck, maybe the Muttrc included in RPMs could pop up a
message saying "Don't ask; read first" until the user figures out how to
get rid of it,
[...]
Hm, maybe for a start I could put a few big, red "Read the
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 01:32:41AM +0100, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:08:28PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
[...]
for starters? Heck, maybe the Muttrc included in RPMs could pop up a
message saying "Don't ask; read first" until the user figures out how to
get rid of it,
Hi, everyone in general --
Without going too far into the whole argument of what's intuitive or not
and without condemning too much, I hope, those users who get in our way
and keep us from doing what we should be able to do (read mail and surf
and occasionally fix systems :-) I would say that
UmPardon me for forgettingI didn't even bother to read this
mail, but one thing people must keep in mind is that one can forget, and
this is the first time I have asked this. I am at work, and don't have
much time to read through the mutt manual.
Spare criticism and move on with your
Jason, et al --
...and then Jason Helfman said...
% UmPardon me for forgettingI didn't even bother to read this
% mail, but one thing people must keep in mind is that one can forget, and
Well, that could be part of the problem. I know that the list traffic
has gone up recently, but one
David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
It seems that mutt is cresting one of those points of explosive growth
where we see a massive influx of clueless newbies -- perhaps, due to
the easy availability of Linux and even other more mainstream *NIX
distributions, so new that they don't even know
David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
...and then Jason Helfman said...
% this is the first time I have asked this. I am at work, and don't have
% much time to read through the mutt manual.
I won't bother to go into searching and other such fun stuff. If you
don't have time to read the
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000, Jason Helfman wrote:
UmPardon me for forgettingI didn't even bother to read this
mail, but one thing people must keep in mind is that one can forget, and
this is the first time I have asked this. I am at work, and don't have
much time to read through the mutt
On 2000.06.27 12:08:28, you,
the extraordinary David T-G, opined:
It seems that mutt is cresting one of those points of explosive growth
where we see a massive influx of clueless newbies -- perhaps, due to
the easy availability of Linux and even other more mainstream *NIX
distributions,
Jeremy, et al --
...and then Jeremy Blosser said...
% David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
% It seems that mutt is cresting one of those points of explosive growth
% where we see a massive influx of clueless newbies -- perhaps, due to
...
%
% Unfortunately, this translates directly into
At 2:09 PM EDT on June 27 Nollaig MacKenzie sent off:
Has this ever been tried for some Cool Software:
* see below.
Create two lists:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And etiquette requires that if you are fairly newbile you send your question
Newbile? I don't think
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:08:28PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
- Hi, everyone in general --
-
- Without going too far into the whole argument of what's intuitive or not
- and without condemning too much, I hope, those users who get in our way
- and keep us from doing what we should be able to do
Charles, et al --
...and then Charles Curley said...
% On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:08:28PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% -
% - and occasionally fix systems :-) I would say that this *is* becoming a
% - FAQ and it's because folks aren't reading the docs.
%
% The docs are user hostile, and not merely
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:09:38PM +, Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
Has this ever been tried for some Cool Software:
Create two lists:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And etiquette requires that if you are fairly newbile
you send your question to CoolSoftwareNewbies
And etiquette requires that if you are fairly newbile
you send your question to CoolSoftwareNewbies and wait
a reasonable time before construing the absence of
answer as an indication that you should send it to
CoolSoftwareUsers?
Wouldn't they have to read the docs for the lists to get that
There is something similar at
www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Mutt-GnuPG-PGP-HOWTO.html
It focuses mainly on gpg, pgp and mutt working together but it is an easy read.
authority, that we as the mutt community need to come up with some Quick
Start and "mutt for the impatient" docs, perhaps along the
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