search features
Hi, I'm trying to search for information in a mailbox. I know the / command, but that seems to only work for the page being displayed.+Is there a way to find a particular message that contains a certain phrase from within mutt? I've already tried grepping and +would like something with a few less steps. Thanks. Todd -- Todd Kokoszka Developer MobileWay Puteaux, France
Re: setting content type in email header with mutt
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:10:14AM +0100, Rocco Rutte wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:23:06:PM -0800 Gary Johnson wrote: I'm in a similar situation where I need to periodically send to a distribution list a document written in Word and would like to send it with a text/plain version as multipart/alternative. Nothing I have done to edit the Content-Type in the header has worked--mutt always changes it back to multipart/mixed. What about preparing everything to use the '-H' switch? Especially for the case that you do it automatically and not by hand. I tried that, too. Mutt ignored the 'Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk' line in the header and sent the message as one text/plain part. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: search features
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, Todd Kokoszka wrote: Hi, I'm trying to search for information in a mailbox. I know the / command, but that seems to only work for the page being displayed.+Is there a way to find a particular message that contains a certain phrase from within mutt? I've already tried grepping and +would like something with a few less steps. Do it from the index, not the pager. The online manual has all the possible search criteria. -Ken
Re: search features
I guess I missed it in the manual. I had already tried it from the index and searched through the manual for it. I hadn't thought of tagging the messages. Thanks though -- I ended up rereading the Getting Started and then it struck me. Todd On Tue 26 Mar 2002 at 03:59:54 -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 03:59:54 -0500 From: Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: search features Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Fuzzy-Tongue: Mooseballs X-Editor: vim - http://www.vim.org/ X-cuse: Osama bin Laden ate my homework X-Destination: Ace Frehley or bust X-X: X Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, Todd Kokoszka wrote: Hi, I'm trying to search for information in a mailbox. I know the / command, but that seems to only work for the page being displayed.+Is there a way to find a particular message that contains a certain phrase from within mutt? I've already tried grepping and +would like something with a few less steps. Do it from the index, not the pager. The online manual has all the possible search criteria. -Ken -- Todd Kokoszka Developer MobileWay Puteaux, France
Re: Can I use mutt to notify a message to all PC users running MS Windows on the network? NOOOOO!
26-Mar-02 at 03:31, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : my response was to someone posting to this list with Outlook asking a question for a window only environment, trying to send a notification via some proprietary service using an *email* message sent from mutt (or whatever mailer). I didn't notice that. Should have done. But in any case, there's no harm in pointing things like that out on the list. Not everyone is so technically minded as to understand, like the guy who wrote in the last 24 hours that he is giving up with mutt due to problems which appear to be due to his MTA (sendmail). -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:55.96% see www.mersenne.org] Hofstadter's Law states that projects take longer than expected, even when Hofstadter's Law is taken into account. [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
Re: mailbox question
25-Mar-02 at 22:26, Matthias Weiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I'm subscribed to several mailing lists which are sent to 2 mail accounts. I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the mails that are then stored in /var/spool/mail/matthias. Since the mails go to separate accounts anyway, why not fetch the mail to two separate folders, and configure mutt to read both? I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing list and display only those mail at ones that belong to the same mailing list. I'd then want to switch between the list with some key command. You can acheive this, although I personally prefer sorting and threading to make this less configuration specific. When I end my mutt session I'd want mutt to store the read mails in seperate mail boxes, each for every mailing list I'm subscribed. You can do this with save hooks, but you'll have to manually save after reading. Those remaining mails that don't belong to a mailing list should be moved to a general list. Move them to a readmail folder, for example, this can be done. Is that possible with mutt and if yes how can I do this??? Too many ways to skin a cat. Do it with the dog ;-) or do it with fetchmail, with procmail perhaps. Depending on how important it is for all this to be automatic, and whether or not you will ever access your mail with another client / via webmail, will guide the decisions. I think mutt should be left for reading your mail and moving it about, but automating things /before/ you even read the mail (moving unread messages into folders dependent on address sent to, etc) might be better acheived with something like procmail. Then I have a question regarding address books - is there support for something alike in mutt?? There are aliases, which allow you to have nicknames for all your contacts, and these can be browsable. However, name, address, telephone and all that is outside the scope of aliases in mutt. Ps.: could you please CC me answers cause I'm not on the list. I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. I am now going to have to find your address and copy-paste it up to the CC line. Luckily I included your address in my attribution line in my .muttrc, and now I have a good reason to have quoted it in my reply... -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:56.00% see www.mersenne.org] IDIOT, n - A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. -- Ambrose Bierce [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
Re: PGP signing (newbie)
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and then Shawn McMahon said... If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects in depth, IIRC. We even had that whole discussion here a while back. Rob, when was that? One more question popped in my mind; when GnuPG automagicly fetches a key of some person and verifies it, it goes to the key list (I mean, that I can check it out with 'gpg --list-keys'). Does this mean, that it is signed? If it does, is it lsigned or signed for export? Because I have a *lots* of keys now, which I can view ith --list-keys option for gpg... and I'm not so experienced yet, that I could tell if they are signed or not. Sorry, if the answer is self-evident and the question's stupid, but I'd just like to know... -- Jussi Ekholm | And Jesus is on opium and Jesus needs a fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And Jesus is a suffering slave to ritualistic sex http://erppimaa.cjb.net/ | Singing love brother love... ekh @ IRCNet | Singing love brother love... msg26130/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signing (newbie)
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:17:10PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more question popped in my mind; when GnuPG automagicly fetches a key of some person and verifies it, it goes to the key list (I mean, that I can check it out with 'gpg --list-keys'). Does this mean, that it is signed? If it does, is it lsigned or signed for export? Like I said, I'm not a GnuPG expert, but... No, it won't sign a key. To sign a key, use gpg --sign-key (to sign for export, which you shouldn't do until you know what you're doing), or gpg --lsign-key (to sign a key locally). Because I have a *lots* of keys now, which I can view ith --list-keys option for gpg... and I'm not so experienced yet, that I could tell if they are signed or not. You have no proof that the key you downloaded actually belongs to the owner, so there is no justification for signing it. Signing the key says I am 100% sure that this key belongs to the true owner. For example, let's say that there is a guy that we both know, called Fred Bloggs. He hasn't uploaded a key to the keyserver. I create a key containing his email address and upload it to the server. I then spoof a mail to you, that appears to come from Fred, and is signed with his key. You download the key, and validate his his message. You also sign his key. Now your web-of-trust is broken. AIUI, signing for export says I am willing to tell anyone that if they trust my key, then they should also trust this person's key. Other people could then decide to trust your judgement on signing keys, and use your signature equivalent to their own. This is why you shouldn't sign for export unless you *really* know what you're doing. -- David SmithWork Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] STMicroelectronics Home Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bristol, England
Re: key status (was Re: PGP signing (newbie))
Jussi -- ...and then Jussi Ekholm said... % % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter % would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects ... % % One more question popped in my mind; when GnuPG automagicly fetches % a key of some person and verifies it, it goes to the key list (I mean, Yes, it does. % that I can check it out with 'gpg --list-keys'). Does this mean, that % it is signed? If it does, is it lsigned or signed for export? Nope. Nothing of the sort; you have to sign keys for them to be signed (that may sound like a tautology, but it's really an illustration). % % Because I have a *lots* of keys now, which I can view ith --list-keys % option for gpg... and I'm not so experienced yet, that I could tell % if they are signed or not. Don't worry; it's there, but it's not in your way. % % Sorry, if the answer is self-evident and the question's stupid, but % I'd just like to know... First, check out gpg --help to see what you can do with the program. Read it in great detail -- really! Then take a look at this example: [zero] [6:47am] ~ gpg --list-keys 0xbc3ff6d4 pub 1024D/BC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/D965F16A 1999-05-26 pub 1024D/BC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/D965F16A 1999-05-26 [zero] [6:47am] ~ gpg --list-sigs 0xbc3ff6d4 pub 1024D/BC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] sigBC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] sigCBAE9171 1999-05-26 David Thorburn-Gundlach (default) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig7B9F4700 2001-12-17 David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/D965F16A 1999-05-26 sigBC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/BC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] sigBC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] sigCBAE9171 1999-05-26 David Thorburn-Gundlach (default) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig7B9F4700 2001-12-17 David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/D965F16A 1999-05-26 sigBC3FF6D4 1999-05-26 Mike Stella [EMAIL PROTECTED] The rest is left as an exercise for the student ;-) Note that you probably don't always want to use --list-sigs, though: [zero] [6:49am] ~ gpg --list-keys | wc -l 1085 [zero] [6:49am] ~ gpg --list-sigs | wc -l 2929 % % -- % Jussi Ekholm | And Jesus is on opium and Jesus needs a fix % [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And Jesus is a suffering slave to ritualistic sex % http://erppimaa.cjb.net/ | Singing love brother love... % ekh @ IRCNet | Singing love brother love... :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26132/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: % You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the % beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke. % % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). Just ignore x-nuke, of course. % % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % displayed. Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. % % It's still easier to just rip the headers right out. Yeah, but that's the Wrong Way. % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you % would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26133/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). % % ignore received x-nuke % % There are other headers I want to hide though. Of course. You could even x-nuke all of them. % % The only headers that I _want_ to see are done with an unignore in my % .muttrc, immediately following an ignore *. x-nuke wouldn't work in % that situation, and to prepend x-nuke to _everything_ that I want to % hide is just out of the question. Too much work. What's the work? - Nuke all headers; now they're hidden. - Now un-nuke the few headers you want to see; now they're visible. - Tell mutt to ignore x-nuke and you're done. Don't like that? Then turn it around. - Nuke only the headers you want to toss. - tell mutt to ignore x-nuke and you're done. % % What I have now with formail working against incredimail _works_, that's % the point. It's exactly what I want. Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % You may have heard that a dean is to faculty as a hydrant is to a dog. % -- Alfred Kahn :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26134/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: massage-hook vs message-hook
Sven -- ...and then Sven Guckes said... % % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 15:04]: % Rob -- % ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: % % Sven [mmh.. ye... deeper.. oh, yeah..] % % You sure that's a massage you're getting? ;) % No, it's a m-e-ssage, but it's from one of those lists ;-) % % just ask David - he should know. (hey, David, % have you stopped posting to the XXX list?) I can't post any more; it takes at least one hand. The falling drool hits the space bar and advances to read the next message, though, so I'm OK. % % Sven [what's wrong with them % just pick one people lately?] There aren't actually any people here. This is actually a python script gone bad. % % -- % mutt.patch.massage.gimmegimmegimme.20020325 :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: mailers with scripting/setup language
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:04:14AM +0100: Just wondering why 1524 is so important to you... You lost me. To the best of my knowledge, I have never discussed RFC1524 in this or any other mailing list, prior to this exchange. RFC1521 is important to me because 99.99% of MUAs on the Internet profess to comply with it, and because the most popular one doesn't actually do so, and thus it's users give me flack about their broken mailer's inability to read my messages. I've recently decided that it's insane for me to jump through hoops set by a company whose products I don't even purchase anymore, when I'm following 8.5-year-old standards. Ok, it's not a standard standard yet, but that argument is rendered moot when you stick a MIME header in your mails, which Outlook and Outlook Express do. That constitutes a stipulation to the standard as written. If they don't want to follow the standard, they can put X-MSMIME or something. What they're doing now is false advertising, and it's affecting me. I have to choose between spending a portion of my time responding to complaints, or ditching functionality. I choose to apportion that time so that as much of it as possible goes to talking to people with clue (like you), and as little as possible to people without clue who won't understand even if I wave the RFCs in their face. Karsten and I are working on something in that vein. msg26136/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX (Was:Re: mailers with scripting/setup language)
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 19.58 +0100]: Hi, On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:18:11:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:12:41AM +0100: Not that I know, but it is quite dangerous to talk about Outlook in the context of mail clients. Oh, it is a mail client, it's just not an Internet mail client. ;-) It seems that Outlook users get along with one another so everything works as intended. And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook Express-experience ;-) http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp Snipped from the product description: Overview Internet Explorer presents Outlook Express, the messaging tool that takes your e-mail and newsgroup communications to new heights! Outlook Express is the full, Internet standards-based e-mail client that is included with standard or full installations of Internet Explorer. Benefits * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating, sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic experience. Support for Internet standards Outlook Express has greatly enhanced its support of Internet protocols beyond SMTP, POP3 and NNTP, giving users great interoperability, security and messaging. I guess we'll all be changing MUA soon... ;-) -- Regards, Martin Karlsson msg26137/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
Martin, et al -- ...and then Martin Karlsson said... % % And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook % Express-experience ;-) % % http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp ... % % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with % secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating, % sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic % experience. HH! *run* *run* *run* *run* *run* *SLAM* :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26138/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: % And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook % Express-experience ;-) % % http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp ... % % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with % secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating, % sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic % experience. experience is another of those words, that in the context of advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be ignored. -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
thread view
Hi all. How can i configure muttrc to collapse thread messages ? ~ejg msg26140/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: thread view
Quoting Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 10:02]: How can i configure muttrc to collapse thread messages ? collapse-thread, bound to \ev by default (I think). There's also collapse-all, bound to \eV. (darren) -- Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim. -- George Santayana
Re: thread view
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % Hi all. Hello! % % How can i configure muttrc to collapse thread messages ? RTFM and then exec collapse-all somewhere in your muttrc. [You might optionally push instead.] % % ~ejg HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26142/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
% * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with % secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating, % sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic % experience. experience is another of those words, that in the context of advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be ignored. Actually, i was just thinking about how much i'd like my email experience to be more rich and dynamic. Maybe i'll file a mutt RFE. msg26143/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX - that rich experience
* Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 15:16]: % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and % provides you with secure, personalized, and complete % features that make creating, sending, and reading % your e-mail a more rich and dynamic experience. experience is another of those words, that in the context of advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be ignored. Actually, i was just thinking about how much I'd like my email experience to be more rich and dynamic. Maybe i'll file a mutt RFE. request for experience? that's kewl. hehe hehehe Sven [who saves all of that rich experience in +SPAM]
Re: mailbox question
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:55:29AM +: I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. I am now going to have to find your address and copy-paste it up to the CC line. No, you don't have to. You choose to. Many people wouldn't. IMHO, it's incredibly rude to request a private response in a mailing list. Telling people please help me, and please jump through this hoop to do it is wrong. Unless his question was I can't seem to read messages in the Mutt list, but my non-list mail works fine. msg26145/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with % secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating, % sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic % experience. experience is another of those words, that in the context of advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be ignored. Actually, i was just thinking about how much i'd like my email experience to be more rich and dynamic. Maybe i'll file a mutt RFE. Actually, in light of Ximian connector, it would be way cool to have an interface that downloaded your mail into mutt, and left your calendar in Evolution. http://www.ximian.com/products/connector/
Re: Mail is not reaching destination
* Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 03:03]: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) 1. Is sendmail set up to allow messages to go to/from root? I dont know? we can tell by the X-Mailer line - and by the way quote text. ;-) 2. I can't find an address for jerryvb.vei.net, although that might just be my setup. I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about here. Thanks for trying, I'm a frustrated mutt newbie. I'm giving up on mutt/sendmail. like i said: mutt is *not* for everyone Sven [expecting the usual WOLFs] -- Everybody uses the mailer that he deserves. mutt is not for everyone.
Re: mailbox question - mutt is *not* a filter!
* Matthias Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 06:50]: I'm subscribed to several mailing lists which are sent to 2 mail accounts. I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the mails that are then stored in /var/spool/mail/matthias. I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing list and display only those mail at ones that belong to the same mailing list. limit ~C address I'd then want to switch between the list with some key command. macro index ## limit~C address2\n When I end my mutt session I'd want mutt to store the read mails in seperate mail boxes, each for every mailing list I'm subscribed. Those remaining mails that don't belong to a mailing list should be moved to a general list. Mutt is *not* a mail filter. Period. Then I have a question regarding address books - is there support for something alike in mutt?? use addressbook Ps.: could you please CC me answers cause I'm not on the list. No. Sven -- Sven Guckes http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html Mutt setup from scratch, Sven's sample setup; attribution, limit, list vs subscribe, histories, mailcap, POP, hooks, use of external pagers, troubleshooting, adding header lines, from Mozilla to Mutt.
Re: Mail is not reaching destination
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 04:31:52PM +0100: like i said: mutt is *not* for everyone All users suck. mutt is for users who suck less. msg26149/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mailbox question
26-Mar-02 at 10:30, Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. I am now going to have to find your address and copy-paste it up to the CC line. No, you don't have to. You choose to. Well, because I didn't read that line until the end, and because I had already typed the reply, I was stating the exact realtime fact that I was presented with. I would not have bothered had I seen that before typing a response. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:56.41% see www.mersenne.org] If it dies, it's biology. If it blows up, it's chemistry, and if it doesn't work, it's physics. [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:57:27 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: substituing ~l in send-hook I'd like to create a generic send-hook which substitutes ~l, something like: send-hook ~l 'my_hdr Reply-To: ~l' The ~l won't be substituted in my_hdr. Is there some means to achieve this? Have you ever received a reply to this question, or perhaps found a solution? I'm interested, too. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 5:34PM up 2 days, 1:19, 12 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.04, 0.02
Re: mailers with scripting/setup language
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:25:21:AM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:04:14AM +0100: Just wondering why 1524 is so important to you... You lost me. You lost me. We lost us. ;-) To the best of my knowledge, I have never discussed RFC1524 in this or any other mailing list, prior to this exchange. Yes, yes, yes! I wrote, that I read 1524 instead of - what you wrote - 1521. As a result a looked up 1524 - and not 1521 you were writing about - and wondered why it is so important to you... See? I've recently decided that it's insane for me to jump through hoops set by a company whose products I don't even purchase anymore, when I'm following 8.5-year-old standards. Not that I like Linux very much or use it a lot, but this one of the last chances 'we' have. Microsoft just shot themselves a while back by breaking up with GNU and the GPL. As Linux becomes more important, more people and companies tend to use it. As Outlook (Express) is not available on that platform more and more people see that there in fact are alternatives and what crazy and even more usefull things they might do with a Unix like system. Ok, it's not a standard standard yet, but that argument is rendered moot when you stick a MIME header in your mails, which Outlook and Outlook Express do. I know. I once hoped (and we all were once young and full of ideas and energy ;-) to change something by using it. As people don't know the most simple background (i.e. what headers are or even that they exist) it's useless to even try to explain details. Dito with the 'X-Message(-Flag)' header. I choose to apportion that time so that as much of it as possible goes to talking to people with clue (like you), and as little as possible to people without clue who won't understand even if I wave the RFCs in their face. I did not yet decide to do so (yet). The point is that there're lots of people having to use it at work. Even if those people are familiar to the standards, what shall they do if they're not abled to convince someone with the power of decission not to use Outlook anymore (I am aware of the BOFH... but quiting a job because of that is not a solution for everyone)? Also, lots of people are just ordinary end-users. I do not want them to read and fully understand the standard, it needs someone to tell them (illustrated by some bad examples) why RFC1521 conformance is important. For people (like us) who are technically interested it's easy not to choose Outlook. But I guess we're not the majority. If everybody just gives up we'll lose because all others will use Outlook (and we, too, at last). Not a very optimistic conclusion, isn't it? But it perfectly fits the weather here... Rocco msg26152/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
On Mar 26 at 17:34, Roman Neuhauser spoke: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:57:27 +0100 Subject: substituing ~l in send-hook I'd like to create a generic send-hook which substitutes ~l, something like: send-hook ~l 'my_hdr Reply-To: ~l' The ~l won't be substituted in my_hdr. Is there some means to achieve this? Have you ever received a reply to this question, or perhaps found a solution? I'm interested, too. No I haven't received an answer. I think it's just not supported in this context. The workaround is to put a send-hook for each mailinglist. But not very elegant... -Hanspeter
Re: mailbox question - mutt is *not* a filter!
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 04:40:23:PM +0100 Sven Guckes wrote:
* Matthias Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 06:50]:
Then I have a question regarding address books -
is there support for something alike in mutt??
use addressbook
I recommend using 'lbdb' ('little brother database').
http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb
Has some really great features (including adding addresses from every
incoming mail with a procmail statement). Furthermore it is abled to
query lot's of types of user databases (finger, pgp, mutt, fido, abook,
nis, passwd, ...).
Rocco
msg26154/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:56:57:PM +0100 Martin Karlsson wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 19.58 +0100]: ;-) It seems that Outlook users get along with one another so everything works as intended. And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook Express-experience ;-) http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just replace every workstation by a server to run Outlook? ;-) Benefits * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating, sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic experience. Great! Microsoft wrote that? 'more rich and dynamic' experience. ROTFL That's completely true. When sending or receiving mail/news you'll never know what you get (hint: quoting)... ;-) Support for Internet standards Outlook Express has greatly enhanced its support of Internet protocols beyond SMTP, POP3 and NNTP, giving users great interoperability, security and messaging. I'd love to have some fun today. I think I'll ask the marketing guys which completely interoperable and secure messaging protocol Outlook now supports (maybe POP2?)... Rocco msg26155/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook Express-experience ;-) http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just replace every workstation by a server to run Outlook? ;-) Here where I work we use Ultra sparc machines, but have no root password and only 100 MB of quota = can't compile and install stuff, and are forbidden to do so: this situation is much more frequent than many Unix guru expect, just see how often they dismiss one's question with just patch or compile from source, don't bother us. Back to mail clients used on solaris: here (RD) , where we have to use a Unix os to do real work, we have sparc, but have only Netscape 4.7?? because it's the only ccompany certified client able to do IMAP, hence to interface with the corporate Exchange server ***They*** made me to do it, that's why!! OTOH, this (Pointy haired guys saying °Exchange!!° ) is the reason to hope somebody does make mutt do also outlook calendar functions. Ciao, Marco Fioretti
reverse_name question
Sorry if this has been asked a lot. I've been looking through the 'net, and various archives of various messages, for an answer to how I can get mutt to reply to emails using the To address, as the From address. my local account name is sugarat. but I also get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When people send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want to automatically use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my From address in any replies. Sources, including the Mutt FAQ(s), the Mutt Manual, and a couple of old postings have led me to understand that this feature is controlled by using the setting reverse_name. Also, I understand that reverse_realname and alternates and from settings also play a part. My understanding was that reverse_name could override the setting of from, but that my_hdr From would override reverse_name. I'm using Mutt 1.3.28i, configured with '--enable-imap --enable-pop --enable-locales-fix --with-regex --with-included-gettext --enable-buffy-size' and have reduced my muttrc file to the following: -- set realname = Tim Kennedy set from = [EMAIL PROTECTED] set reverse_name = yes set reverse_realname = yes set hidden_host = yes set alternates = [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] set wait_key = no set spoolfile = imap://mail.mydomain.com:143/INBOX set sort = threads set sort_aux = date-received set editor = vim set abort_nosubject = ask-no set reply_self = yes set mbox = imap://mail.mydomain.com:143/INBOX set folder = imap://mail.mydomain.com:143/INBOX set edit_headers = yes set alias_file = ~/.mutt/aliases set imap_home_namespace = imap://mail.mydomain.com:143 -- From everything I've read, this should suit my purposes. I've made sure that the system Muttrc file is not changing any of these, even though it's read in first. I still am not getting the behavior that I expect. It always sends from the defined from, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. If I unset the from, then it sends from the local account, and uses the real name from the gecos field of /etc/passwd. Usually, when I have a problem like this, it's because I'm missing something simple. In this case, I have no idea what I'm missing. I've tried other expansions in setting my_hdr From using ~f and ~t and such, but that doesn't work either. I've also tried this with mutt-1.2.5i, with the same options, but no luck there, either. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thank you for your time, -Tim Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
26-Mar-02 at 17:35, Hanspeter Roth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : No I haven't received an answer. I think it's just not supported in this context. The workaround is to put a send-hook for each mailinglist. But not very elegant... If you use L (default mapping) to reply to lists, you will always reply just to the list address, as long as it is defined as a list in your muttrc. The reply-to should then be redundant, because people /should/ just reply to the list only. Mutt will send the correct headers if you use L. So use L ;-) Simon. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:56.51% see www.mersenne.org] Not only does Jesus save, but he makes nightly off-site backups. [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
26-Mar-02 at 16:44, Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just replace every workstation by a server to run Outlook? ;-) Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not worth shit without CDE. Great! Microsoft wrote that? 'more rich and dynamic' experience. ROTFL That's completely true. When sending or receiving mail/news you'll never know what you get (hint: quoting)... ;-) Well, I think the biggest crime is hiding the actual email address you're sending to / receiving from. I find that 100% unacceptable. You cannot tell Outlook Express to show you the email without going to properties screens and all that. CRAP. That is why I do not use Outlook, more than any (perfectly valid, numerous) other reasons. Simon -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:56.51% see www.mersenne.org] In a time of universal lies, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
Re: Can I use mutt to notify a message to all PC users running MS Windows on the network? NOOOOO!
* On 2002.03.25, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 21:22]: 25-Mar-02 at 02:00, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : seriously - mutt sends email. that's it. if your users don't read their emails right away then they won't notice your message at all. It doesn't even do that. [..] What Mutt really does is provide a user interface for a number of configurable tasks, which generally include moving and reading mail, but rarely truly sending mail. come on, Simon - no need to be overly politically or technically correct here. Of course there is. Yes, you can use mutt to send a message to a bunch of Windows users. However, since mutt barters in e-mail, you need something else to broker e-mail for winpopup messages. If all that matters to you is making the winpopup message, then using mutt only complicates things, but if you're specifically looking for a way to use a mailer to send such messages, then yes, you can do it. I'd suggest getting samba. Writing a small program that takes an e-mail message on its standard input, extracts the sender information, subject, and/or body, and reformats them into a block of text. It can pipe this block of text into an smbclient command (this is part of samba) which will broadcast winpopups to all listening Windows users. Then set up an alias somewhere that pipes incoming mail to this program, and you're set. You'll probably want to add some authenticity checking or point-of-origin checking or something, so that everyone on the internet can't spam messages onto your windows users' screens -- this would be pretty self-defeating. do you really think they *care* about technical explanations? exactly. Yes, I do, actually. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: line drawings showing threads gone with REMOTE session!?!?!?
Sven Thanks for reply. I have ASCII characters remotely now but want *lines* like locally Locally, thread emails are indented with lines joining everything. These lines become asterisks remotely. Chris On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:22:21AM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: * Christian Seberino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 00:03]: My .muttrc is set up to sort mail by threads rather than exclusively by date. Mutt draws nice lines and indents child emails of a thread nicely. I tried to log into this PC REMOTELY and these nice features did NOT come out anymore?!!? How do I get these lines again remotely??? maybe your terminal emulator sews up with the graphics set used by default. switch to ASCII characters - and all should be fine: set ascii_chars Sven -- Sven Guckes http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html Mutt setup from scratch, Sven's sample setup; attribution, limit, list vs subscribe, histories, mailcap, POP, hooks, use of external pagers, troubleshooting, adding header lines, from Mozilla to Mutt. -- === | Dr. Christian Seberino || (619) 553-7940 (office) | | SPAWARSYSCEN 2363 || (619) 553-2836 (fax)| | 53560 HULL ST || | | SAN DIEGO CA 92152-5001 || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ===
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
26-Mar-02 at 18:51, Hanspeter Roth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : You are assuming that /everybody/ is using Mutt with mailing lists. I do use Mutt and I do use L. But should I expect everybody to switch to Mutt? Some people still want to use Emacs, Pine, Elm or Netscape Mail... Not every mailclient supports Mail-Followup-To:. Are Mutters expected to boycott Nonmutters? Woah! Not at all! I was responding to someone who wanted a send-hook within mutt to change the Reply-To header, not a non Mutt user. A lot of people can't switch to Mutt, won't switch to Mutt, don't need to switch to it, etc. But I said nothing against any other MUA. I was speaking /purely/ from a Mutt context. I assume nothing, unless of course my brain short-circuits some logic somewhere and tricks me into thinking I must be right, given the evidence, when in fact I have processed previous input incorrectly. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:56.53% see www.mersenne.org] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along. -- John Lennon.
Re: mailbox question
26-Mar-02 at 19:26, Matthias Weiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Since the mails go to separate accounts anyway, why not fetch the mail to two separate folders, and configure mutt to read both? What do I gain from this when I have 3 mailing list on one and another 4 lists on the other account? 1) OK, so fetch the mail to 7 separate folders, a lot of people on the list swear by procmail, which will grab whatever fetchmail brings and filter it to your heart's content. I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing list and display only those mail at ones that belong to the same mailing list. I'd then want to switch between the list with some key command. You can acheive this, although I personally prefer sorting and threading to make this less configuration specific. Don't understand what you mean. *HOW* can I achieve this? If you do (1), then you just switch folders with 'c'. If you don't (like me, I keep everything remote and unsorted because I haven't automated 100% yet, or perhaps because part of me is still a philistine). So, I use sorting by threads, which Mutt handles rather nicely, and this allows me to see, reasonably easily, which list has which thread, since threads don't usually cross lists. When I end my mutt session I'd want mutt to store the read mails in seperate mail boxes, each for every mailing list I'm subscribed. You can do this with save hooks, but you'll have to manually save after reading. you mean I have to save manually every mail??? 8-| Only if you refuse to do (1) or can't. Mutt is not a mail filter, but you can hack it to do basic filtering, but that's not what it's for and it won't do it neatly or correctly. Those remaining mails that don't belong to a mailing list should be moved to a general list. Move them to a readmail folder, for example, this can be done. How? scr =readmailcr $ something like that. I'm getting approx. 130 mails every day, so this *IS* important for me. Maybe I can do something with my mta (postfix) to splitt the mails up into several inboxes. Don't know why, but I always thought this is the job of my mailclient. Send the output of Postfix to procmail, if you're receiving direct. Procmail will do the business. Well, I actually don't care what part of the mail system is doing the job. I want to have a solution that helps me handling this amount of everyday mails. Well then get into the tools above. Mutt doesn't do everything it isn't supposed to. I know that being not a member of a list and mailing to it is bad habit, nevertheless I hope you excuse it, one more mailing list and I drown in mails, sorry! Sorry, you'll have to search the archive this time anyway. Who said that the path to enlightenment is not easy? -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:56.54% see www.mersenne.org] Hofstadter's Law states that projects take longer than expected, even when Hofstadter's Law is taken into account. [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
content type question
so this is kind of bizarre. we have an automated script that people send mail to and list what they've been doing. just to be silly, i've taken to using characters like '¤' as bullets in mine. the script that handles this sends out messages with a content type of us-ascii instead of iso-8859-1. what's strange is that the first time i view the message, the characters show up, however if i re-enter the folder and view it again, it shows up as a '?' unless i change the content type by hand. why does it work the first time? shouldn't the pager's behavior be consistent here? -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Patch: filter-message
Attached is a patch that implements the filter-message command
discussed last week (Replacing a message with its filtered output).
It combines parts of the pipe-message and edit commands, so that
$editor doesn't have to be set/reset to filter a message through an
external program.
Quick description:
filter-message (default: )
Asks for an external shell command and filters the current or tagged
message(s) through it. Each tagged message will be filtered through a
separate invocation of the command. The stdout of the command will be
appended to the current folder as a new message, and the original
message will be marked for deletion.
This command is available in the index and pager. As with pipe-
message, the variables $pipe_decode and $wait_key control the
exact behaviour of this function.
Comments are welcome. Thanks!
Steve
diff -pruN2d mutt-1.3.28.orig/OPS mutt-1.3.28/OPS
--- mutt-1.3.28.orig/OPSSat Jan 27 06:33:53 2001
+++ mutt-1.3.28/OPS Tue Mar 26 10:47:39 2002
-82,4 +82,5 OP_ENTER_MASK enter a file mask
OP_EXIT exit this menu
OP_FILTER filter attachment through a shell command
+OP_FILTER_MESSAGE filter message through a shell command
OP_FIRST_ENTRY move to the first entry
OP_FLAG_MESSAGE toggle a message's 'important' flag
diff -pruN2d mutt-1.3.28.orig/PATCHES mutt-1.3.28/PATCHES
--- mutt-1.3.28.orig/PATCHESMon Nov 26 12:16:52 2001
+++ mutt-1.3.28/PATCHES Tue Mar 26 10:56:38 2002
-0,0 +1
+patch-1.3.28.st.filter_message.1
diff -pruN2d mutt-1.3.28.orig/commands.c mutt-1.3.28/commands.c
--- mutt-1.3.28.orig/commands.c Thu Nov 8 01:56:48 2001
+++ mutt-1.3.28/commands.c Tue Mar 26 10:47:39 2002
-301,5 +301,10 void pipe_msg (HEADER *h, FILE *fp, int
-/* the following code is shared between printing and piping */
+/*
+ * the following code is shared between printing and piping
+ *
+ * fpfout: NULL to direct the command's STDOUT to mutt's STDOUT, or
+ * non-null to redirect.
+ */
static int _mutt_pipe_message (HEADER *h, char *cmd,
-307,5 +312,6 static int _mutt_pipe_message (HEADER *h
int print,
int split,
- char *sep)
+ char *sep,
+ FILE **fpfout)
{
-330,5 +336,5 static int _mutt_pipe_message (HEADER *h
#endif
-if ((thepid = mutt_create_filter (cmd, fpout, NULL, NULL)) 0)
+if ((thepid = mutt_create_filter (cmd, fpout, fpfout, NULL)) 0)
{
mutt_perror _(Can't create filter process);
-369,5 +375,5 static int _mutt_pipe_message (HEADER *h
mutt_message_hook (Context, Context-hdrs[Context-v2r[i]], M_MESSAGEHOOK);
mutt_endwin (NULL);
- if ((thepid = mutt_create_filter (cmd, fpout, NULL, NULL)) 0)
+ if ((thepid = mutt_create_filter (cmd, fpout, fpfout, NULL)) 0)
{
mutt_perror _(Can't create filter process);
-386,5 +392,5 static int _mutt_pipe_message (HEADER *h
{
mutt_endwin (NULL);
- if ((thepid = mutt_create_filter (cmd, fpout, NULL, NULL)) 0)
+ if ((thepid = mutt_create_filter (cmd, fpout, fpfout, NULL)) 0)
{
mutt_perror _(Can't create filter process);
-426,5 +432,6 void mutt_pipe_message (HEADER *h)
0,
option (OPTPIPESPLIT),
- PipeSep);
+ PipeSep,
+ NULL);
}
-447,5 +454,6 void mutt_print_message (HEADER *h)
1,
option (OPTPRINTSPLIT),
- \f) == 0)
+ \f,
+ NULL) == 0)
mutt_message (h ? _(Message printed) : _(Messages printed));
else
-454,4 +462,87 void mutt_print_message (HEADER *h)
}
+/*
+ * Filter a single message through the given command
+ */
+int filter_one_message (CONTEXT *ctx, HEADER *h, char *command)
+{
+ FILE *fpfout;
+ char tmp[_POSIX_PATH_MAX];
+ int omagic;
+ int rc;
+ int oerrno;
+ CONTEXT tmpctx;
+
+ _mutt_pipe_message (h, command,
+ option (OPTPIPEDECODE),
+ 0,
+ option (OPTPIPESPLIT),
+ PipeSep,
+ fpfout);
+
+ /* Create tmp mbox for filter output */
+ mutt_mktemp (tmp);
+ omagic = DefaultMagic;
+ DefaultMagic = M_MBOX;
+ rc = (mx_open_mailbox (tmp, M_APPEND, tmpctx) == NULL) ? -1 : 0;
+ DefaultMagic = omagic;
+
+ if (rc == -1)
+ {
+mutt_error (_(could not create temporary folder: %s), strerror (errno));
+return -1;
+ }
+
+ /* Copy filter output to tmp mbox */
+ rc = mutt_copy_stream (fpfout, tmpctx.fp);
+ oerrno = errno;
+ rc = fflush(tmpctx.fp);
+
+ /* Close stream and tmp mbox */
+ safe_fclose (fpfout);
+ mx_close_mailbox (tmpctx, NULL);
+
+ if (rc == -1)
+ {
+mutt_error (_(could not write temporary mail folder: %s), strerror (errno));
+return
Problems going to INBOX using IMAP (Courier)
I've just started using the IMAP features of mutt (I'm pretty new to the program in general, too). So far, things are working great -- except that when I change folders. Relevant lines of my .muttrc: set spoolfile=imap://jennyw@localhost/INBOX set folder=imap://jennyw@localhost/ What happens is that when I first run mutt, I see my inbox. Great! When I type c to change folders and type ? to get a list, I see: 1 IMAP +INBOX. 2 IMAP INBOX When I click on either one of these options, I get a list of my folders (I'm using Courier-IMAP and all folders are children of INBOX). There does not seem to be a way to get back to see the messages in my inbox. Even when I type c, then type imap://jennyw@localhost/INBOX or imap://jennyw@localhost I get the the two lines above instead of my messages. Any suggestions? Thanks! Jen
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05PM +: Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not worth shit without CDE. I've had luck in the past with GNOME, and evidently Sun doesn't totally disagree, since they're moving to GNOME as the standard environment. msg26168/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Patch: filter-message
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:19:14AM -0700, Steve Talley wrote: Quick description: filter-message (default: ) Asks for an external shell command and filters the current or tagged message(s) through it. Each tagged message will be filtered through a separate invocation of the command. The stdout of the command will be appended to the current folder as a new message, and the original message will be marked for deletion. just curious - wouldn't this break the compression patch? Sounds like a useful idea, but I can't even try it if it does :/ -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26169/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can I use mutt to notify a message to all PC users running MS Windows on the network? NOOOOO!
David, et al -- ...and then David Champion said... % ... % Yes, you can use mutt to send a message to a bunch of Windows users. % However, since mutt barters in e-mail, you need something else to broker ... % I'd suggest getting samba. Writing a small program that takes an e-mail % message on its standard input, extracts the sender information, subject, % and/or body, and reformats them into a block of text. It can pipe this ... and then write a hook or macro to swap this in as $sendmail so that apparently mailing to a magic user will invoke smbclient itself without even going through the mail system -- or exposing smbclient to the outside world. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: line drawings showing threads gone with REMOTE session!?!?!?
Chris -- ...and then Christian Seberino said... % % Thanks for reply. I have ASCII characters remotely % now but want *lines* like locally Makes sense. % % Locally, thread emails are indented with lines joining % everything. These lines become asterisks remotely. Then it looks like your terminal emulator, screen type, or some other piece in the middle is doing you wrong. The last thing to check might be to sit down locally at that remote box and see how mutt looks, but I doubt that it's been compiled to somehow not handle 8-bit drawing. % % Chris HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: Patch: filter-message
Dan -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:19:14AM -0700, Steve Talley wrote: % Quick description: ... % separate invocation of the command. The stdout of the command will be % appended to the current folder as a new message, and the original % message will be marked for deletion. % % just curious - wouldn't this break the compression patch? Sounds like a % useful idea, but I can't even try it if it does :/ Don't see why it would; can you clarify your hesitation? If the working folder is modified, say by a save or an edit-message or any such stuff, then mutt will utilize the close-hook command to bundle the temp folder into the place of the compressed folder (whereas if no changes are saved then the temp folder can be thrown away without changing the original folder). Or am I missing something? % % -- % Dan Boger % [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26173/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems going to INBOX using IMAP (Courier)
On Tue 26-Mar-2002 at 10:16:16AM -0800, jennyw wrote: set spoolfile=imap://jennyw@localhost/INBOX set folder=imap://jennyw@localhost/ I have something similar (with courier-imap), except both $spoolfile and $folder point to /INBOX What happens is that when I first run mutt, I see my inbox. Great! When I type c to change folders and type ? to get a list, I see: 1 IMAP +INBOX. 2 IMAP INBOX When I click on either one of these options, I get a list of my folders (I'm using Courier-IMAP and all folders are children of INBOX). There does not seem to be a way to get back to see the messages in my inbox. c ! enter will take you back to the index (! is an alias for $spoolfile). Even when I type c, then type imap://jennyw@localhost/INBOX or imap://jennyw@localhost I get the the two lines above instead of my messages. I was stuck on this for a while. When you use the browser, enter changes directory/folder, but you use space to actually open the folder in the index (Once you get used to tab-completion, you'll never use the browser anyway - I can't remember the last time I used it). -- Bruno http://bruno.postle.net/
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
* On 2002.03.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just replace I thought we used text-based mail clients for the same reasons as everyone else who uses them. It has nothing to do with my workstation's speed, which is actually quite fine. * On 2002.03.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not worth shit without CDE. Not so. I think I ran CDE once during initial installation, but I haven't touched it since. I already know I dislike it, so I don't use it, and (surprise!) I still think my computer rates higher than fecal matter. Actually, I probably haven't used CDE on this machine. I always do a text-based installation. It's easier that way. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX (Was:Re: mailers with scripting/setup language)
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, Martin Karlsson wrote: And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook Express-experience ;-) http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp And if it's anything like IE for Solaris, it sucks. Ever since 3.0, Netscape IMO has gotten more and more bloated and unstable. So I tried IE under Solaris. Went back to Netscape. :( -Ken
Re: mailbox question
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:55:29AM +, Simon White wrote: 25-Mar-02 at 22:26, Matthias Weiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I'm subscribed to several mailing lists which are sent to 2 mail accounts. I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the mails that are then stored in /var/spool/mail/matthias. Since the mails go to separate accounts anyway, why not fetch the mail to two separate folders, and configure mutt to read both? What do I gain from this when I have 3 mailing list on one and another 4 lists on the other account? I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing list and display only those mail at ones that belong to the same mailing list. I'd then want to switch between the list with some key command. You can acheive this, although I personally prefer sorting and threading to make this less configuration specific. Don't understand what you mean. *HOW* can I achieve this? When I end my mutt session I'd want mutt to store the read mails in seperate mail boxes, each for every mailing list I'm subscribed. You can do this with save hooks, but you'll have to manually save after reading. you mean I have to save manually every mail??? 8-| Those remaining mails that don't belong to a mailing list should be moved to a general list. Move them to a readmail folder, for example, this can be done. How? Is that possible with mutt and if yes how can I do this??? Too many ways to skin a cat. Do it with the dog ;-) or do it with fetchmail, with procmail perhaps. Depending on how important it is for all this to be automatic, and whether or not you will ever access your mail with another client / via webmail, will guide the decisions. I'm getting approx. 130 mails every day, so this *IS* important for me. Maybe I can do something with my mta (postfix) to splitt the mails up into several inboxes. Don't know why, but I always thought this is the job of my mailclient. I think mutt should be left for reading your mail and moving it about, but automating things /before/ you even read the mail (moving unread messages into folders dependent on address sent to, etc) might be better acheived with something like procmail. Well, I actually don't care what part of the mail system is doing the job. I want to have a solution that helps me handling this amount of everyday mails. Then I have a question regarding address books - is there support for something alike in mutt?? There are aliases, which allow you to have nicknames for all your contacts, and these can be browsable. However, name, address, telephone and all that is outside the scope of aliases in mutt. It's all I need, I'll try this. Ps.: could you please CC me answers cause I'm not on the list. I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. It can't, but my mail was forwarded to the mailing list maintainer so it appeared even so. I know that being not a member of a list and mailing to it is bad habit, nevertheless I hope you excuse it, one more mailing list and I drown in mails, sorry! I am now going to have to find your address and copy-paste it up to the CC line. Luckily I included your address in my attribution line in my .muttrc, and now I have a good reason to have quoted it in my reply... Hmm, that's impressing! ;-) matthias
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
On Mar 26 at 17:38, Simon White spoke: If you use L (default mapping) to reply to lists, you will always reply just to the list address, as long as it is defined as a list in your muttrc. The reply-to should then be redundant, because people /should/ just reply to the list only. Mutt will send the correct headers if you use L. You are assuming that /everybody/ is using Mutt with mailing lists. I do use Mutt and I do use L. But should I expect everybody to switch to Mutt? Some people still want to use Emacs, Pine, Elm or Netscape Mail... Not every mailclient supports Mail-Followup-To:. Are Mutters expected to boycott Nonmutters? -Hanspeter
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
On Mar 26 at 17:56, Simon White spoke: 26-Mar-02 at 18:51, Hanspeter Roth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : You are assuming that /everybody/ is using Mutt with mailing lists. I do use Mutt and I do use L. But should I expect everybody to switch to Mutt? Some people still want to use Emacs, Pine, Elm or Netscape Mail... Not every mailclient supports Mail-Followup-To:. Are Mutters expected to boycott Nonmutters? Woah! Not at all! I was responding to someone who wanted a send-hook within mutt to change the Reply-To header, not a non Mutt user. A lot of people can't switch to Mutt, won't switch to Mutt, don't need to switch to it, etc. But I said nothing against any other MUA. I was speaking /purely/ from a Mutt context. OK. But I'd like also those using MUAs which don't support Mail-Followup-To: replying to the mailing list. That's why I also insert a Reply-To:. Otherwise they reply also to my From: address which I don't want. -Hanspeter
OT Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05PM +: Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not worth shit without CDE. I've had luck in the past with GNOME, and evidently Sun doesn't totally disagree, since they're moving to GNOME as the standard environment. Yeah, I believe GNOME will be the default environment when 2.0 is released. Until then users have to deal with CDE. How it's lasted o long is beyond me. :) -Ken
Re: Problems going to INBOX using IMAP (Courier)
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 10:53, Bruno Postle wrote: I have something similar (with courier-imap), except both $spoolfile and $folder point to /INBOX Yeah, I've tried both -- they seem pretty much interchangeable? c ! enter will take you back to the index (! is an alias for $spoolfile). That's good to know! I was stuck on this for a while. When you use the browser, enter changes directory/folder, but you use space to actually open the folder in the index (Once you get used to tab-completion, you'll never use the browser anyway - I can't remember the last time I used it). Tab completion is nice ... I'm not sure it's faster, though, when you have nested folders, many with similar names ... Out of curiosity, is this in the docs? I read through the man pages for mutt and also read through the help file that you can get to by typing ? but this stuff doesn't seem to be in there. The most helpful doc I've found is the man page for muttrc. Any pointers? Thanks! Jen
Re: mailbox question
begin quoting what Matthias Weiss said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:26:43PM +0100: What do I gain from this when I have 3 mailing list on one and another 4 lists on the other account? The ability to use mailing lists to help you solve problems without committing ettiquette errors that cause those who know the answers to your problems to flame you and then refuse to help you, for one thing. msg26182/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems going to INBOX using IMAP (Courier)
Jenny -- ...and then jennyw said... % % Tab completion is nice ... I'm not sure it's faster, though, when you % have nested folders, many with similar names ... Do you mean nested, as in down in subdirectories, or not nested, as in next to each other? You can also set a mask to limit your list of folders. % % Out of curiosity, is this in the docs? I read through the man pages for % mutt and also read through the help file that you can get to by typing ? % but this stuff doesn't seem to be in there. The most helpful doc I've % found is the man page for muttrc. Any pointers? First, the next time you're in the browser, hit ? *there* and see what your choices are. I suspect that enter and space will be separately defined for you. Second, please do us all a favor and remember everything that stymies you now. Take copious notes on what you don't understand and then, later, how it could have been made more clear. Even if you don't write new documentation, your insight from a fresh-newbie point of view is very valuable. Many of us have forgotten what brought us to a screeching halt as we were learning, and mutt behavior is now comfortably second nature -- which is terrible for writing documentation! % % Thanks! HTH TIA HAND % % Jen :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26183/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Optimizations?
I'm using mutt with an IMAP server (Courier). I notice that when I open a message with attachments, that mutt reads them in. Is there a way to just get the message body without attachments by default? Also, I notice that when I open up a folder, it gets all the headers before it displays them. Is there a way to get it to a) cache information) or b) read only some of the headers instead of all of them? I'm using mutt 1.3.27-4 (Debian Woody). Thanks! Jen
Re: reverse_name question
Quoting Tim Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 12:33]: Sorry if this has been asked a lot. I've been looking through the 'net, and various archives of various messages, for an answer to how I can get mutt to reply to emails using the To address, as the From address. my local account name is sugarat. but I also get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When people send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want to automatically use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my From address in any replies. I tried to figure out something similar a while ago, but as far as I can tell, there is no way to set headers based on a message you are relpying to. A possible solution is a send-hook/macro combination that sets the From: header: send-hook . 'my_hdr From: me [EMAIL PROTECTED]' macro index \er 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED];reply' macro pager \er 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED];reply' This sets the default From to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] (set this to your real values, of course), and then, when you want to reply to something sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], do escr instead of just r. This is untested, BTW, but I think it's basically sound. (darren) -- If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever. -- Woody Allen
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:30:19AM -0500, Adam Shostack wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: Actually, in light of Ximian connector, it would be way cool to have an interface that downloaded your mail into mutt, and left your calendar in Evolution. http://www.ximian.com/products/connector/ It would be even nicer if there was a connector product that worked with mutt instead of Evolution so that you could reply to appointments from Outlook clients without using the web client or vmware. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26186/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Optimizations?
jennyw wrote: [not sure about your second question] Also, I notice that when I open up a folder, it gets all the headers before it displays them. Is there a way to get it to a) cache information) or b) read only some of the headers instead of all of them? there's currently no caching for IMAP headers. there's a patch by michael elkins to do this for Maildir folders in 1.5.0; he mentions that the code could fairly easily be extended to work with IMAP as well, but it doesn't currently. a couple other things you might consider; you could use isync to sync the imap server to local Maildir folders (never done this either, so not sure how well it would work). if you have shell access on your mail machine, and it's on a good connection, i'd just run mutt on the machine itself. -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: reverse_name question
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: Quoting Tim Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 12:33]: my local account name is sugarat. but I also get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When people send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want to automatically use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my From address in any replies. I tried to figure out something similar a while ago, but as far as I can tell, there is no way to set headers based on a message you are relpying to. You can, with reverse_name. Unless I didn't read the manual clearly enough, it didn't work until I added that address into 'alternates'. It seems the reverse_name will only work with addresses in alternates. -Ken
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) What are you getting at? ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. -- Dennis Ritchie msg26189/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Optimizations?
I'm using mutt with an IMAP server (Courier). I notice that when I open a message with attachments, that mutt reads them in. Is there a way to just get the message body without attachments by default? Also, I notice that when I open up a folder, it gets all the headers before it displays them. Is there a way to get it to a) cache information) or b) read only some of the headers instead of all of them? I'm using mutt 1.3.27-4 (Debian Woody). Thanks! Jen
Command expansion
Hi, I send this to the user's list and not to developer's because I do not want to 'spam' anybody. The problem is the following: if I would type fast enough to send a few dozen mails a minute, I wanted to be abled to include the date and time in the file I specify by the 'record' variable. Using `date`. But `date` is only expanded on startup. Pipes may not be used. So that all mails would end up in the same file the with time mutt read the config file. And permanently re-reading the config file is ugly. Just wondering if there's a mechanism to tell mutt to expand it everytime the value of a variable is used. Maybe by allowing pipes to be used more often or even generally? If not the documentation should be changed since it mentions the use of a pipe for the 'signature' variable. This may let people expect, that it works in other variables of type 'path', too. Which is not the case. At least a note should be inserted, that this for this variable only (just for the stupid ones ;-). I thought of dividing the 'path' type into one dynamic and on static. The dynamic ones would allow pipes generall whereby the static don't. Just a thought. Any ideas, opinions, comments? Rocco msg26191/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: substituing ~l in send-hook
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:38:10:PM + Simon White wrote: If you use L (default mapping) to reply to lists, you will always reply just to the list address, as long as it is defined as a list in your muttrc. The reply-to should then be redundant, because people /should/ just reply to the list only. Mutt will send the correct headers if you use L. Yes, but some people on other lists do not use mutt and/or not L. As I create the 'subscribe' entries for mutt's config by a script I also create folder-hooks to set Reply-To: to the list address. Works. Lists are run to discuss topics *on* that list. Not to play another Bcc game. Rocco msg26192/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:31:43:PM +0100 Marco Fioretti wrote: Here where I work we use Ultra sparc machines, but have no root password and only 100 MB of quota = can't compile and install stuff, and are forbidden to do so: this situation is much more frequent than many Unix guru expect, just see how often they dismiss one's question with just patch or compile from source, don't bother us. I know that. ;-(( At my university I have 20 MB. I'm allowed to compile and install in my home directory. Quite hard with 20 MB. So I'll build at home hoping it works there... OTOH, this (Pointy haired guys saying ?Exchange!!? ) is the reason to hope somebody does make mutt do also outlook calendar functions. Someday we'll emulate you I'll stop writing about software made by Microsoft, right after this one. I've always been able to get some text out of every Outlook mail. But Exchange really sucks. It not only sucks, it even sucks most: Somebody was subscribed to a mailinglist and, for any reason, his account wasn't available anymore. Not knowing that I write a mail to that list and get a bounce that I had made an attempt to send mail to a deleted account. The mailer was so nice to attach a copy of the message headers it received: 'From:' was correct, 'To:' was set to the unavailble account, the messgage-id was replaced by one generated at the Exchange server. The bounce was not send back to the list but to each member subscribed. I sent a mail to the list asking if somebody could stop this nightmare... and got another bounce from the Exchange server. I know, it was 'only' because misconfiguration by the postmaster. That's what 'they' always say. Rocco msg26193/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems going to INBOX using IMAP (Courier)
On Tue 26-Mar-2002 at 11:21:44AM -0800, jennyw wrote: I have something similar (with courier-imap), except both $spoolfile and $folder point to /INBOX Yeah, I've tried both -- they seem pretty much interchangeable? I think they probably are, imap-namespace is one of those ghastly things I'd rather not think about. When you use the browser, enter changes directory/folder, but you use space to actually open the folder in the index Out of curiosity, is this in the docs? Almost certainly in the manual, though I wouldn't know where exactly. I read through the man pages for mutt and also read through the help file that you can get to by typing ? There is the manual, which may or may not be bound to F1, or you can read it as html at: http://mutt.org/doc/manual/ There is also some mutt-imap documentation here: http://mutt.sourceforge.net/imap/ -- Bruno http://bruno.postle.net/
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--vJguvTgX93MxBIIe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, it's wakie-wakie time! Alas! David T-G spake thus: % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). =20 Just ignore x-nuke, of course. Did you miss the first half of this thread? the ignore command will not work after an unignore command. IOW, this: unignore x- ignore x-nuke _does_not_hide_x-nuke_headers_ % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % displayed. =20 Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. The problem is that x-nuke _IS_ an x- header. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sometimes when I get up in the morning, I feel very peculiar. I feel like I've just got to bite a cat! I feel like if I don't bite a cat before sundown, I'll go crazy! But then I just take a deep breath and forget about it. That's what is known as real maturity. -- Snoopy --vJguvTgX93MxBIIe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oNOZPTh2iSBKeccRAkL6AJ4h9VzzBp6T8KoE5RoR018xYbyzaACfbodP j8s7yYjNHOLNwV54IlgxkRY= =8hvW -END PGP SIGNATURE- --vJguvTgX93MxBIIe--
Re: Patch: filter-message
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:47:50PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Don't see why it would; can you clarify your hesitation? If the working folder is modified, say by a save or an edit-message or any such stuff, then mutt will utilize the close-hook command to bundle the temp folder into the place of the compressed folder (whereas if no changes are saved then the temp folder can be thrown away without changing the original folder). Or am I missing something? I think I am missing something... when a message is filtered, it will append it to the TEMP copy of the folder? if so, that's great :) I was worried that it will append it to the original, and that would, of course, break things... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26197/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... How is my solution not elegant? It's a simple 3 lines that trashes a bunch of headers that I don't want to see. Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it is... :P --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to wear tail lights. --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oNQePTh2iSBKeccRAkQWAKCEHlrMHYPIgA1RqqoO1R6LRjBohACfR11v LqmM/kLlSVLdXCDVRyVI/us= =6o5S -END PGP SIGNATURE- --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC--
Re: Command expansion
Quoting Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 14:55]: The problem is the following: if I would type fast enough to send a few dozen mails a minute, I wanted to be abled to include the date and time in the file I specify by the 'record' variable. Using `date`. But `date` is only expanded on startup. Pipes may not be used. So that all mails would end up in the same file the with time mutt read the config file. And permanently re-reading the config file is ugly. I think if you \ the backticks, they will be evaluated when the variable is read, and not when the config is read. So, instead of: set record=`date +'%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M'` use something like: set record=\`date +'%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M'\` Untested. :) (darren) -- All is fear in love and war.
Re: mailbox question
* Matthias Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 19:11]: What do I gain from this when I have 3 mailing list on one and another 4 lists on the other account? IMAP I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing list and display only those mail at ones that belong to the same mailing list. I'd then want to switch between the list with some key command. You can acheive this, although I personally prefer sorting and threading to make this less configuration specific. Don't understand what you mean. *HOW* can I achieve this? RTFM! When I end my mutt session I'd want mutt to store the read mails in seperate mail boxes, each for every mailing list I'm subscribed. You can do this with save hooks, but you'll have to manually save after reading. you mean I have to save manually every mail??? 8-| No. Those remaining mails that don't belong to a mailing list should be moved to a general list. Move them to a readmail folder, for example, this can be done. How? filtering Is that possible with mutt and if yes how can I do this??? Too many ways to skin a cat. Do it with the dog ;-) or do it with fetchmail, with procmail perhaps. Depending on how important it is for all this to be automatic, and whether or not you will ever access your mail with another client / via webmail, will guide the decisions. I'm getting approx. 130 mails every day, so this *IS* important for me. Maybe I can do something with my mta (postfix) to splitt the mails up into several inboxes. Don't know why, but I always thought this is the job of my mailclient. Wrong I think mutt should be left for reading your mail and moving it about, but automating things /before/ you even read the mail (moving unread messages into folders dependent on address sent to, etc) might be better acheived with something like procmail. Well, I actually don't care what part of the mail system is doing the job. I want to have a solution that helps me handling this amount of everyday mails. yeah Then I have a question regarding address books - is there support for something alike in mutt?? There are aliases, which allow you to have nicknames for all your contacts, and these can be browsable. However, name, address, telephone and all that is outside the scope of aliases in mutt. It's all I need, I'll try this. good Ps.: could you please CC me answers cause I'm not on the list. I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. It can't, but my mail was forwarded to the mailing list maintainer so it appeared even so. I know that being not a member of a list and mailing to it is bad habit, nevertheless I hope you excuse it, one more mailing list and I drown in mails, sorry! done. Sven
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash % of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... % % How is my solution not elegant? It's a simple 3 lines that trashes a % bunch of headers that I don't want to see. Yeah, but there's no magic; it's not clever. % % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P No, that's left as an exercise for the student. Really :-) % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to % wear tail lights. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26201/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % David, it's wakie-wakie time! What? 42! The battle of the bulge! % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % % david posted). % % Just ignore x-nuke, of course. % % Did you miss the first half of this thread? No. % % the ignore command will not work after an unignore command. IOW, this: % % unignore x- % ignore x-nuke % % _does_not_hide_x-nuke_headers_ Of course not. So don't unignore x-, silly; you shouldn't be ignoring * in the first place, but instead just ignoring the x-nuke headers when you get to them. % % % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % % displayed. % % Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. % % The problem is that x-nuke _IS_ an x- header. Of course it is. We all know that. % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % Sometimes when I get up in the morning, I feel very peculiar. I feel % like I've just got to bite a cat! I feel like if I don't bite a cat % before sundown, I'll go crazy! But then I just take a deep breath and % forget about it. That's what is known as real maturity. % -- Snoopy :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26202/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Patch: filter-message
Dan -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:47:50PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Don't see why it would; can you clarify your hesitation? If the working % folder is modified, say by a save or an edit-message or any such stuff, ... % Or am I missing something? % % I think I am missing something... when a message is filtered, it will % append it to the TEMP copy of the folder? if so, that's great :) I was That's how I read it. % worried that it will append it to the original, and that would, of % course, break things... Well, you should make a test compressed folder and try it out, of course :-) % % -- % Dan Boger % [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26203/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Command expansion
Rocco -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hello! % % I send this to the user's list and not to developer's because I do not % want to 'spam' anybody. I think that -users is a good place for it. % % The problem is the following: if I would type fast enough to send a few % dozen mails a minute, I wanted to be abled to include the date and time Heh. And you talk about not wanting to spam! :-) % in the file I specify by the 'record' variable. Using `date`. But `date` % is only expanded on startup. Pipes may not be used. So that all mails % would end up in the same file the with time mutt read the config file. % And permanently re-reading the config file is ugly. Right. % % Just wondering if there's a mechanism to tell mutt to expand it % everytime the value of a variable is used. Maybe by allowing pipes to be % used more often or even generally? In general, if you set your config inside single quotes, it will be evaluated at execution time (when you send the email or invoke the hook or whatever) rather than read time (when you start mutt or reread your muttrc file). You can see more on this if you search the archives for send-hook and uptime; this typically comes up when people want their x-uptime headers to be accurate to the time of the email rather than the time of the mua initialization. % % If not the documentation should be changed since it mentions the use of % a pipe for the 'signature' variable. This may let people expect, that it % works in other variables of type 'path', too. Which is not the case. At % least a note should be inserted, that this for this variable only (just % for the stupid ones ;-). Hmmm... Not a bad idea, I suppose, but this functionality is only for signature, so that's a special case. % % I thought of dividing the 'path' type into one dynamic and on static. % The dynamic ones would allow pipes generall whereby the static don't. % Just a thought. IIRC that would be a short section; if anything, perhaps just a note that says ... and you can only do this pipe thing on the $signature variable unless you see us talk about pipes on another variable. % % Any ideas, opinions, comments? HTH HAND % % Rocco :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26204/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exchange Exchange!
* Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 17:32]: Back to mail clients used on solaris: here (RD), where we have to use a Unix os to do real work, we have sparc, but have only Netscape 4.7?? because it's the only ccompany certified client able to do IMAP, hence to interface with the corporate Exchange server ***They*** made me to do it, that's why!! *they* wanted exchange? they lose. you let them do it? you lose. you send data with it - you agree. you generate further problems. your problem. you solve it. why do you see mutt has to solve this in this? anywhere? no? exactly! OTOH, this (Pointy haired guys saying ?Exchange!!?) is the reason to hope somebody does make mutt do also outlook calendar functions. why does *mutt* have to solve *your* problem? if Exchange gives you problem then fix *Exchange*! I just cannot stand this attitude of people who cannot admit their defeat with their own managers and who think that they cannot change any of the software they are working with. even worse - these people apparently think that free software has to be adapted to broken software it's the only thing they might have an influence in. well - forget it! if you cannot make changes to your software at work then at least write your own software to support it! mutt is a mailer - not a calendar. end of story. it's time to stand up against those pointy haired managers who think exchange is the solution for everything and against the they made me do it whiners. (nothing personal - really!) [incidentally - where did www.boycott-microsoft.com go?] that said, I don't mind utilities which can take data from email message and feed them to calendar utilities. no problem. pipe-message is your friend. enojy! :-) Sven
Display Error
Hi, I have asked about this a few weeks ago, but nothing changed, so I try it again. I have a display error: After GPG is called to check a signature, Mutt's terminal gets corrupted. I can continue working by refreshing the display, but it's really annoying. I use Mutt 1.3.24i (but also tried 1.3.27i), Eterm 0.9, ncurses 5.2, XFree86 4.0.3, GnuPG 1.0.6. I didn't see this with whatever version of Mutt I used before 1.3.24i (1.3.16i?). I couldn't find anything in the archives. Can somebody help? Thorsten -- [ ] War [x] Peace
Re: reverse_name question - my_hdr overrides
* Tim Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 17:34]: I've been looking through the 'net, and various archives of various messages, for an answer to how I can get mutt to reply to emails using the To address, as the From address. My understanding was that reverse_name could override the setting of from, but that my_hdr From would override reverse_name. correct. a FROM header set with my_hdr will simply be added and thus will override a FROM header generated with reverse_name. my local account name is sugarat. but I also get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When people send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want to automatically use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my From address in any replies. then reverse_name will do this for you. I'm using Mutt 1.3.28i, configured with [options] and have reduced my muttrc file to the following: [18 lines] now *that's good info! well done! :-) From everything I've read, this should suit my purposes. I've made sure that the system Muttrc file is not changing any of these, even though it's read in first. good! set editor = vim :-) I still am not getting the behavior that I expect. It always sends from the defined from, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. If I unset the from, then it sends from the local account, and uses the real name from the gecos field of /etc/passwd. yup - feature. but is this a problem? i mean - what's in that gecos field? anyway, chfn is your friend. Sorry if this has been asked a lot. yes, you'd think this would be in the FAQ... ;-) So - try without my_hdr definitions and only with reverse_name? Sven -- Sven Guckes http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html Mutt setup from scratch, Sven's sample setup; attribution, limit, list vs subscribe, histories, mailcap, POP, hooks, use of external pagers, troubleshooting, adding header lines, from Mozilla to Mutt.
Re: Display Error
* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 21:46 +0100]: After GPG is called to check a signature, Mutt's terminal gets corrupted. I can continue working by refreshing the display, but it's really annoying. What is pgp_verify_command set to? My guess is that you haven't turned off all of GPG's output and it's what's messing up the screen. For reference, my (Debian-supplied) value is set pgp_verify_command=/usr/bin/gpg --status-fd=2 --no-verbose --quiet --batch --output - --verify %s %f -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / DNRC / UMBC-LUG: http://lug.umbc.edu PGP: ID: D8C75CF5 print: 0A7D B3AD 2D10 1099 7649 AB64 04C2 05A6 --- -- That's the nature of logical thought. All propositions are true in some sense, false in some sense, and meaningless in some sense. -- Hagbard Celine (_The Illuminatus! Trilogy_) --- --
Using Mutt with a Local Spool *and* Multiple IMAP Servers
Hi Folks, I'm attempting to use mutt (V1.3.28i) to seamlessly read mail on a local spool *and* two imap servers. Here's what I want to be able to do: When I'm reading a message on the local spool, I would like to be able to =folder to save the message to a folder in the Mail directory on the local server. When I'm reading a message on one of the IMAP servers, I would like to be able to use =folder to automatically save the message in the appropriate folder on the imap server. I have account-hooks that look something like this: account-hook . 'unset imap_user' account-hook imap://imap1.blah.com 'set folder=imap://imap1.blah.com/Mail; set imap_user=myuser' account-hook imap://imap2.blah.com 'set folder=imap://imap2.blah.com; set imap_user=otherimapuser' All is ok when I start by reading mail in the local folder -- saving to =folder saves to a folder in the Mail/ directory on the local system. Also, when I switch to one of the IMAP servers, the folder designation is set appropriately and and =folder will save to the correct folder on the proper IMAP system. However, if I change back to ! (the inbox on the local system), the folder designation remains stuck on the previous IMAP designation, and if I try to save to =folder, mutt attempts to use a folder on the previous IMAP server. I guess the bottom line is -- After I've switched to one of the IMAP servers and switched back to the local inbox, is there a way to automatically default to the local folder directory so that =folder will save stuff there rather than attempting to save it on the previous imap server? Thanks very much! -Rocky
Changing Groups in Mutt/NNTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I cannot see any details howto change the current Group or even change back to the list of active groups when using Mutt/NNTP Sean - -- Sean Rimahttp://www.tcob1.net Linux User: 231986 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyg8WAACgkQeR/L2ZZp3E8pxgCfQoxA3GjlDv9PBE1DUeJO5jAq 1Q0An1LtC+jgVXlmved4ux3FZmXMyPBo =QP+i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Using Mutt with a Local Spool *and* Multiple IMAP Servers
Rocky -- ...and then Rocky Giannini said... % % Hi Folks, Hello! % % I'm attempting to use mutt (V1.3.28i) to seamlessly read mail on a local % spool *and* two imap servers. Sounds easy enough. % ... % account-hook . 'unset imap_user' % account-hook imap://imap1.blah.com 'set folder=imap://imap1.blah.com/Mail; set imap_user=myuser' % account-hook imap://imap2.blah.com 'set folder=imap://imap2.blah.com; set imap_user=otherimapuser' % ... % However, if I change back to ! (the inbox on the local system), the % folder designation remains stuck on the previous IMAP designation, and if % I try to save to =folder, mutt attempts to use a folder on the previous % IMAP server. I think your clue is in your default account-hook statement. What if you had account-hook . 'unset imap_user ; set folder=/path/to/folder there? This is untested, but I *do* know that you'll have to reset folder somehow after you set it with the account-hook commands for imap1 and imap2; as you've shown us your muttrc, mutt is working exactly as expected. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26211/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt+Outlook - calendar utility?
* David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 19:34]: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:30:19AM -0500, Adam Shostack wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: ..it would be way cool to have an interface that downloaded your mail into mutt, and left your calendar in Evolution. It would be even nicer if there was a connector product that worked with mutt instead of Evolution so that you could reply to appointments from Outlook clients without using the web client or vmware. ok, now the problem has been identified and a possible solution has been suggested. good. now - can somebody please do some research on the net and set up a web page for this? thanks. Sven [who doesn't care about that problem]
Re: Display Error
Hi, * Phil Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-26 23:04]: * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 21:46 +0100]: After GPG is called to check a signature, Mutt's terminal gets corrupted. I can continue working by refreshing the display, but it's really annoying. What is pgp_verify_command set to? My guess is that you haven't turned off all of GPG's output and it's what's messing up the screen. I had set pgp_verify_command=gpg --no-secmem-warning --no-verbose --batch -o - --verify %s %f but yours don't work either. What I don't understand. Why is anything written with --status-fd=2? This message is recognizable: gpg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dies ist keine gültige Schlüssel-ID (gpg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is no valid key ID) Thorsten -- When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle. - Edmund Burke
Re: beating the system from within
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 17:17]: The point is that there're lots of people having to use [Outlook] at work. Even if those people are familiar to the standards, what shall they do if they're not abled to convince someone with the power of decision not to use Outlook anymore? I am aware of the BOFH... but quiting a job because of that is not a solution for everyone? Good question. Glad you asked. Let's look at the standard solutions: (1) Shut up. (2) Lose job. But there is definitely more than these two. For example: (3) Write a letter to Microsoft. (ha!) (4) Post to Microsoft's newsgroups. (hmm..) (5) Add a signature which points at all the sites which tell you about the problems with OE. (hey! :-) Resistance *is* futile! Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED][OE Links] OE http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/outlookexpress/ Outlook OE http://members.mcnon.com/mbrunner/quoten/fehler.html Express OE http://www.henrik-reimers.de/oe5/oe5faq.htm http://oe-faq.de OE http://www.wschmidhuber.de/oeprob/ http://www.outlook-net.de/faq.htm Outlook 98 FAQ : http://www.pc-faq.de/outlook98 Outlook 2000 FAQ : http://www.pc-faq.de/outlook2000
Re: beating the system from within
Sven Guckes wrote: (5) Add a signature which points at all the sites which tell you about the problems with OE. (hey! :-) (6) s/signature/X-Message-Flag/g : -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
behavior of abort (SigInt)
Somewhere between version 1.2.5i and 1.3.27i the behavior of SigInt changed. I am used to hitting ^C to get out of mutt (the main reason is that I have a script that looks through a number of folders and ^C has a different exit code than q. q takes me to the next mailbox and ^C exits the script completely). Is this the intended behavior? Thanks, Tim
Re: beating the system from within
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 23:23]: (5) Add a signature which points at all the sites which tell you about the problems with OE. (hey! :-) (6) s/signature/X-Message-Flag/g very good! and let's not forget about (7) pseudo-attachments! fun fun fun :-) more? Sven -- begin 666 magritte.txt.vbs Ceci ne pas un attachment. end
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P No, that's left as an exercise for the student. Really :-) This student is not interested in wasting time on procmail/formail silliness. I've just recompiled my kernel with reiserfs support, and I've _finally_ wiped my old windows partition[0], in preparation for my second Linux From Scratch installation. I don't have any time for anything else today. [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cold, adj.: When the politicians walk around with their hands in their own pockets. msg26218/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
FWD: Re: Using Mutt with a Local Spool *and* Multiple IMAP Servers: (rocky@umuc.edu)
David, First -- Thanks very much for the quick response. When I saw your reply, I thought for sure that would work -- Unfortunately, I made the change, and I'm still seeing the same behavior. Here's what the default account-hook entry looks like now: account-hook . 'unset imap_user ; set folder=~/Mail' I also tried using the full path to the Mail directory rather than the ~ shortcut, and things are still the same. -Rocky On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:10:24PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Rocky -- ...and then Rocky Giannini said... % % Hi Folks, Hello! % % I'm attempting to use mutt (V1.3.28i) to seamlessly read mail on a local % spool *and* two imap servers. Sounds easy enough. % ... % account-hook . 'unset imap_user' % account-hook imap://imap1.blah.com 'set folder=imap://imap1.blah.com/Mail; set imap_user=myuser' % account-hook imap://imap2.blah.com 'set folder=imap://imap2.blah.com; set imap_user=otherimapuser' % ... % However, if I change back to ! (the inbox on the local system), the % folder designation remains stuck on the previous IMAP designation, and if % I try to save to =folder, mutt attempts to use a folder on the previous % IMAP server. I think your clue is in your default account-hook statement. What if you had account-hook . 'unset imap_user ; set folder=/path/to/folder there? This is untested, but I *do* know that you'll have to reset folder somehow after you set it with the account-hook commands for imap1 and imap2; as you've shown us your muttrc, mutt is working exactly as expected.
Re: thread view
...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % How can i configure muttrc to collapse thread messages ? I use: folder-hook . 'push otescVhome Sets sort order to thread, collapses all, puts you at top of the list. John - John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 for those not on the mutt dev list, pgp_create_traditional works again in 1.5.0 (cvs version - a patch from Armin Wolfermann), and the behavior has been changed so that application/pgp is no longer used (although there's an x-mutt-action=pgp-sign flag in the content/type so that mutt knows it's signed). those changes are from Thomas Roessler. anyway just a FYI; i know some people have been asking for this behavior. - -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: public key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc iD8DBQE8oQxpswHW5vg5XAIRAusmAJ9kpF2pVYHr+/pJniPlhHbuGHubjACgiRsO qWm2/jsMRE78aUxlO4RlrbQ= =PDYl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0700: [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) You don't have ps? What are you using instead? msg26222/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:= 37PM -0700: [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) =20 You don't have ps? What are you using instead? I don't use ps. Or any replacements. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When in panic, fear and doubt, Drink in barrels, eat, and shout. --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oS50PTh2iSBKeccRAkSWAJ95vW0Uy5KDdvcuXp2HVqc0H/rC5ACfQYlI RJKN4ZgLfUWQzzGxYk+meMM= =DLWY -END PGP SIGNATURE- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:29:08PM -0700: I don't use ps. Or any replacements. Ok. Do you use vim? msg26224/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) SSH, openssl? I thought they were bsd like, Perl, X11, apache? really *ALL* binaries gpl, must be quite limited... Michael. -- Dr Michael A. Maibaum - (W)+1 (415) 561 1682 - (H)+1 (415) 626 6733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.gene-hacker.net/ msg26225/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: reverse_name question
On Mar 26, Tim Kennedy [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Sorry if this has been asked a lot. I've been looking through the 'net, and various archives of various messages, for an answer to how I can get mutt to reply to emails using the To address, as the From address. ... set reverse_name = yes set alternates = [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I still am not getting the behavior that I expect. It always sends from the defined from, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. If I unset the from, then it sends from the local account, and uses the real name from the gecos field of /etc/passwd. Your settings look fine. Whatever is going wrong here, it's not standard behaviour. Are you sure you don't have a typo or something in your actual alternates setting? Try making it just the abuse address and see if that one at least catches. msg26226/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
