Re: [neonixie-l] B-7971 on ebay for $140

2024-02-10 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I would be in the same situation myself. As I have noted before, back in 1979 when I was still in High School, I had built a six-digit clock based on an MM5311 clock chip (still works though many components upgraded by me over the years). The tubes and sockets came from three of the stock

[neonixie-l] Re: Happy New Year and a request..

2024-01-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
A quick Google search shows some for sale. Running around USD$20. I myself have MM5311N for a clock a built in 1979. Picked up spares in 2004. On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:58:18 PM UTC-5 Nicholas Stock wrote: > Fellow nixie nuts, a Happy New Year to you all, let's hope 2024 brings > good

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-01 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
It would an interesting idea but the glass would block the ionizing radiation (alpha and probably most beta particles from daughter elements in the ore). I have the same issue with B-7971's in a dark room. Unless I shine a flashlight at them, it takes them a bit of time to turn on from a cold

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless eBay listing plug

2023-11-23 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Memories! I have two of those Archer Nixie tubes still in the same packaging. I got them in the closeout bin when RadioShack stopped carrying them. The store crossed out the $2.29 in pen and wrote $.99. Back around 1975 that was still a lot of money for a kid with a paper route but I got the

[neonixie-l] Re: An Introduction,

2023-09-12 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
On Tuesday, 12 September 2023 at 00:07:04 UTC+1 gregebert wrote: I'm not a fan of multiplexing nixies because of the additional current that can lead to shorter lifespan. Me neither as I can hear the whine of the vibrating segments in my old B-7971 clock I built in 1979 that is

Re: [neonixie-l] Original Tube Prices

2023-09-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
y seen over 10k hours of service instead of being NOS. > > On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:12:57 AM UTC-7 Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: > When B-7971's appear on eBay, they tend to sell for around $175-$200 each. > Not that big a markup over the original price when inflation is take

Re: [neonixie-l] Original Tube Prices

2023-09-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
of them that appear to have been made. Robert On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-4 Robert wrote: Interesting that the B 8971 is much more expensive than the B7971, was this used in any commercial products ? Thanks Rob On 2 Sep 2023, at 14:13, Robert G. Schaffrath <> wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Original Tube Prices

2023-09-02 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
The B-7971 is an interesting study. It is listed at $15.85 in single quantities, which is still worse than the $5/each I paid for NOS surplus from Meshna in 1979. However, running that number through the inflation calculator for January 1970 to July 2023 and I get $128.18 (which is shocking to

Re: [neonixie-l] B7971 - better contrast

2023-07-06 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have one of the pin top tubes (https://n2jtx.com/NixieClock/Used%20Burroughs%20B-7971.jpg). Unlike most of my other tubes, it is a Burroughs branded tube and not Ultronics. The only thing I ever noticed different about it was it seemed to have a deeper red glow than the Ultronics tubes which

Re: [neonixie-l] Spark arrestors?

2023-06-27 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
When I saw this subject I was thinking of the Visoglow Neon Lightning Arrester that I bought NIB from Fair Radio Sales over 40 years ago. Never used it and only bought it for the novelty of a three terminal neon bulb in it. Found a picture of it online at

[neonixie-l] Re: Seriously? This is out of control on ebay

2023-05-19 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
If this sells then I have a defective B7971 I would put up too. At least mine still lights up. A few segments do not work but at least it does not have a hole in the glass LOL. On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 10:34:41 AM UTC-4 Nick Andrews wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neonixie Spam Messages

2023-04-08 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I don't think it is just Group but with Google overall. I use Gmail and I noticed a large uptick in legitimate messages appearing in the SPAM folder. I used to have to check it once every two days or so but now it is flagging many things I consider innocuous. As some others posts have noted,

[neonixie-l] Re: Expensive?

2023-02-05 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
That is the exact same thing amateur radio operators need to their wives as well! On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:07:43 AM UTC-5 petehand wrote: > I've told my wife, when I'm gone, under no circumstances sell my nixie > junk for what I told you I paid for it! > > > -- You received this

[neonixie-l] Re: nixie sighting - On soviet IL76 aircraft

2023-01-28 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Several years ago when I got back into Nixie clocks, I took a few to church with me to show a friend. A few of our members are either still active or retired from the airlines (Pan Am, Delta, Jet Blue). One member who worked for Pan Am and retired from Delta on the ground crew at JFK saw my

[neonixie-l] Re: Expensive?

2023-01-23 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Wow! I still have one of those boards, with sockets, and can populate it with two NOS tubes. To think those complete assemblies used to sell for USD$5 or less in the 1970's. Of course 10 years from now, this might look like a bargain. I am amazed that B7971's are now in the $200 range (and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Green Nixie tube?

2022-12-25 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
My late father was a Professor of Chemistry. He had a collection of spectra tubes of the various elemental gases. I added chlorine and mercury to that collection many years later after he had passed when I found a good deal online for those tubes. At one time, I took pictures of those tubes

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone purchased one of these clocks?

2022-12-23 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
tery back up the > time and settings? > Yes setting the time and backlight is rather twisted. > >> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:17:04 AM UTC-6 Robert G. Schaffrath >> wrote: >> I have one of those that I bought two years ago. Relatively easy to assemble >>

[neonixie-l] Re: Anyone purchased one of these clocks?

2022-12-15 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have one of those that I bought two years ago. Relatively easy to assemble I believe socket pins were included. Setting the clock is annoying though. On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:15:01 PM UTC-5 Terry S wrote: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/314168311777 > > Many sellers on ebay. > > Does it

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-17 Direct Drive Clock

2022-12-12 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I agree. For me my favorites come down to the ZM1020/ZM1022's, Rodan GR-111Pa's and IN-17's. I picked up a bunch of NOS IN-17's a few years ago just before COVID hit and prices went off the rails. Have not done anything with them yet though I would like to make a tiny 6-digit clock. I like

Re: [neonixie-l] lot of 34 B7971s on ebay..

2022-08-18 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
d well, need to start over > again. I mean, ll be dead and not caring any more, but it would be a shame > for so much money to be lost for my brothers or nieces... > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:37 AM Robert G. Schaffrath < > robert.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I see

Re: [neonixie-l] lot of 34 B7971s on ebay..

2022-08-18 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I see they sold but no idea what the offer was. I agree that selling them as a lot rather than individually is not that great an idea. I have six NOS, and a seventh used, bubble wrapped and in a box with a detailed note about them for whichever family member stumbles across them someday

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each

2022-05-06 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Poly Paks, Meshna, et al. By 1979 used tubes were $4/each and NOS were $5/each at Meshna. I bought a few NOS that I still have but looking back, yes I wish I had bought more. But, honestly, what to do with all of them back then? They were still pretty common. On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at

Re: [neonixie-l] Noon to be dekatron spinner owner

2022-04-25 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
"Magic Eye" tubes are some of my earliest memories of interesting displays when I was a child. My maternal grandparents had a Dumont TV (didn't everyone LOL?) that used a 6AL7 eye tube for tuning the built in AM receiver. My father had a Fisher AM/FM receiver (with add-on stereo MPX

[neonixie-l] Re: Neons for all!

2022-04-13 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Wow, I have not seen those ".22 caliber" Neon bulbs (A1H) since I was a kid back in the 1970's. Somewhere I think I have a few. A friends father was an EE and had a bunch of them from work. The friend gave me a few to play with. I recall that even though they physically looked the same, some

Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

2022-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
My biggest issues with eBay in the past were not receiving and item though it was a rare occurrence. I would contact eBay and they would tell me to contact PayPal. Contacted PayPal and they would tell me to contact eBay. One big circle j__k. Since the amounts had been under USD$10, I just wrote

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Tube Storage

2022-03-25 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Ammo boxes are good for protecting from typical crushing and water but will not protect from fire. If you ever examine a real fireproof box sold for important papers (I have one I bought at Staples years ago), they have very thick sides and are quite heavy. And they have a rating on how long

Re: [neonixie-l] New find!

2022-02-26 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have an old US Navy scope but I have no idea of the USM model. I bought it at a hamfest back in the mid-1970's when I was a kid for $5. It was made by Dumont no less! The thing weighs a ton. The 5JP1 tube was bad and it needed to be recapped. My maternal grandfather gifted me a new tube that

Re: [neonixie-l] Is it just me?

2022-02-05 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
ff like missing >>>> feet for test gear etc. The resolution is legit. Unlike many 3D printers >>>> you really can't see the layers and it's finally something you can afford >>>> to buy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There w

Re: [neonixie-l] Is it just me?

2022-01-30 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I paid $125 for 25 NOS Philips ZM1022's back in 2002. Kicking myself I did not buy 50 at the time as I had the money and they are one of my favorite style tubes. They sat packed away for years until 2019 when I got several of the four digit Chinese clocks that use them. On Saturday, January

[neonixie-l] Re: Some terrible luck...

2022-01-13 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
At this rate, in a few years, they may catch up to Rodan CD47's. On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 9:03:00 AM UTC-5 Richard Katezansky wrote: > Hi, > > I have 3 with sockets. Given the odd number they will probably just sit > around forever. I'm located in Montreal, Canada. Make me an offer.

Re: [neonixie-l] A pair of Rodan Okaya CD47 / GR414 on eBay (used with green corrosion on one pin).....

2021-11-24 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Which is why I am sitting on my NOS B7971 tubes. Someday I think my heirs will be pleasantly surprised at the value of the bubble wrapped tubes in the carton they are stored in. I already have a note in the box to the attention of whomever to do research before they just toss them out and some

Re: Need scan of "Base" in Burroughs typeface (was Re: [neonixie-l] Burroughs 70910)

2021-10-06 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I checked some of the old Burroughs documentation and I cannot find an "e" either. They only seemed to use the alternate font to spell "Burroughs Corporation". I have a PDF scan of catalog 616 (available on the Internet and it has no other examples. Then for fun, I made an image of the logo

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana

2021-08-26 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
$1 for a B-7971?!?! Incredible. The best price I ever saw was late 1970's/early 1980's when they were still common. As I mentioned in the past, I got six NOS B-7971's around that time from Meshna Electronics for $5/each IIRC. The used ones were $1 cheaper and I decided to splurge. The first

Re: [neonixie-l] Red Coated Burroughs B-5092 - looking for some info

2021-07-07 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
It looks something like this Philips ZM1020 on eBay right now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/402975545372 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:35:31 PM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote: > I've seen a few of the Z560 series tubes and ZM1020's with this kind of > half-assed coating, so I wonder if you have a lab

Re: [neonixie-l] B-7971 Smart Socket - Round Version

2021-06-27 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Is there a link about this socket? I have enough spare B-7971's to complete one. On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:54:50 AM UTC-4 tntm...@gmail.com wrote: > Very nice > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 1:53 AM Richard Scales > wrote: > >> [image: IMG_20210627_064608.jpg] >> >> -- >> You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Prices, seriously?

2021-06-12 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I noticed the upward trend in early fall of 2019. I had just gotten back into Nixie's so I figured I had better jump and I went out and got a batch of NOS IN-12B, IN-17 and IN-15A/B's. The IN-15's are really just a curiosity item for their symbols. As people have noted, they are not making

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-13 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Back in the 1990's I purchased new surplus CRT based viewfinder module designed for a camcorder from a surplus electronics vendor. Was rather inexpensive. It has a tiny 1" B CRT and takes composite NTSC video. The only issue with it was the image was mirrored due to it being designed to be

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-12 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Yes the work done to get color into the 3.58MHz (well something like 3.579545MHz) was incredible. The math involved in transmitting the RGB info is truly amazing. And it was all decoded through analog circuitry! No digital processing involved. Quite a feat for its day. In fact, NTSC TV's were

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Now, here's a bargain

2021-04-07 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I haven't sold on eBay in ages but I bought some items from time-to-time that are often "Out of Stock" but still have their history going back a year or more. Didn't realize it was possible to keep the entry live while the item was unavailable. Crazy thing is an eBay search does not show them

[neonixie-l] Re: Assembled PCB Nixie Clock - Not from China

2021-02-06 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 6:26:36 AM UTC-5 Ian Sparkes wrote: > So, it started like this: I liked the Zirffa style Chinese boards - I > thought the hardware was pretty good, but the firmware was really > primitive. I was going to set about re-writing the firmware for these > boards, but

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-26 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I wish the B7971 kits that pop up from time to time were not so expensive. I have enough of the very expensive parts (the tubes) but I missed out on the boards years ago. I do not fire up my old MM5311 based clock much, built in 1979/1980, as the multiplexing whine bothers me now. The six tubes

[neonixie-l] Re: INS-1 neons

2021-01-15 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I was able to buy a box of 100 for $15.99 back in 2019. I noticed that the glass color tended to vary from almost clear to dark. in the lot I tested a few for a period of time and found, oddly enough, the dark colored glass ones seemed to fare better. I only tested about 10 bulbs in total but

Re: [neonixie-l] Fascinating film about 1960s colour CRT manufacturing

2021-01-12 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have a 15" Micron branded Trinitron monitor that I purchased back in 1999 for around $130. Used it for many years. I eventually switched to an LCD and brought the monitor to the office for safe keeping. We eventually ditched all of the CRT based monitors at the office except for one on a

Re: [neonixie-l] Old Post Office Clock

2021-01-04 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I recall that back in the late 1990's, my local post office had a giant USPS logo'ed LED clock on the wall behind the counter that counted down to the millennium. I was very impressed with it and wondered what they would do with it after the count hit zero on January 1, 2000. Well it turns out

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Counterfeit RTC modules

2021-01-02 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Over a year ago I purchased three of the four-digit Chinese IN-12 clocks with the LED background lights. Of those, two of them were complete junk and AliExpress refunded my money so I only paid USD$20 for the one good clock (I offered to return the bad ones but they did not want them -

Re: [neonixie-l] JP47

2020-12-25 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I thought the JP47 project was abandoned. I was very impressed by the craftmanship but was not a fan of the anode style. It looks exactly like the wire clothe I buy at Home Depot for outdoors:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-04 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I got my first board from Poly Paks sometime in the late 1970’s. Probably paid about $4 if I recall. One tube had shorted segments. I was about 15. Then in 1979 I decided to build a clock and bought three boards from Meshna Electronics. After I assembled that, I decided I would get spare

Re: [neonixie-l] Safe handling of tubes containing Krypton 85

2020-11-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
ow! That's serious stuff! :)" >>>>>> >>>>>> Haha, you just don't have the addiction going strong (yet). I'm >>>>>> pretty sure I am up over 20 scint probes or parts to make them now, and >>>>>> let's just say quite a few G

Re: [neonixie-l] Safe handling of tubes containing Krypton 85

2020-10-27 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Back in the late 1970's, I purchased an old ARC-44 radio that came with a warning about Cobalt-60. Seems the 5829/WA and 5787/WA tubes contained Cobalt-60. However, with a half life of 5.3 years, the tubes showed no activity on a Geiger counter. By the time I got the radio as surplus, three

Re: [neonixie-l] 6300HV Kickstarter launching in 11 days

2020-10-27 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I always found inductors to be the bane of electronics projects. Resistors, capacitors and other discrete components were always readily available in standard values but inductors were that odd item that you often wound up having wind yourself on a core that itself was difficult to obtain.

Re: [neonixie-l] Clean car power

2020-10-09 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have a 1st generation Honda Insight hybrid made in 2000. It has a DC-DC converter that produces very clean power (it takes the 144 VDC and down converts it to high amperage 12-14 VDC). The voltage does swing between approximately 12.1 VDC to 14.1 VDC which is the normal range for an

Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

2020-10-04 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Had the same thing with a NOS IN-12B though they do not compare to a NIMO outgassing. I was refunded the cost of the IN-12B and they are readily replaceable. But those metal to glass bonds are not always tenacious. Outgassing has been an issue with vacuum tubes since the dawn of their

Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

2020-10-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
"Those nimo look like tiny CRTs! If anyone can make them it’s Dalibor!" Talk about a niche market. Not only are they infinitely more complex to construct than a Nixie tube, the market for them would be even smaller than for his Nixie tubes. I had commented on the short YouTube video that it

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie anode types

2020-09-06 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Just theorizing but it would appear to be for legibility. The anode has to cover the the surface area of every digit for uniform lighting and firing current. At the same time, too much anode material blocks the light. Of the various tubes I have, Rodan GR-111Pa’s use a very fine spiral type

[neonixie-l] Re: Does cathode poisoning matter?

2020-08-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have had two cases of cathode poisoning. The first is with Rodan GR-111Pa tubes that are installed on an IN-14 board. I had noticed issues early on and the tubes were a bit dim. It was recommended either here or on the FB Nixie Clock page to replace the anode resistors with a lower value as

[neonixie-l] Re: Mercury not all it’s cracked up to be?

2020-07-18 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
In terms of longevity provided by mercury one just need look at the Chinese QS27-1 and QS30-1 tubes that contain no mercury. They are known to have very short lives. I also understand that Russian tubes prior to the IN-7, which does contain mercury, also have very short lifespans. I see a lot

[neonixie-l] Re: ZM1003 - Sine Minus 1 Spiral

2020-07-17 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I do not have those. Early this year I purchased 10 NOS IN-15A's and 10 NOS IN-15B's as the prices were quite cheap since there really is no demand for them. Have been trying to decide about what to do with them. Using IN-12's for the letter I and O, there are a few words that can be spelled

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: $20 IN-12 clock...anyone have one of these?

2020-07-10 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Interesting article. I did not know there was a big issue with the Chinese DS3231's but I had my suspicions. Back in November 2019 I ordered three 4-tube IN-12 clocks for about $25/each from AliExpress (looks like this one on eBay:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: $20 IN-12 clock...anyone have one of these?

2020-07-09 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:07:09 AM UTC-4, H. Carl Ott wrote: > > > They use a lot of hc595 shift registers and uln2003s to drive the tube, > Dirt cheap, but there is a DS3231 TCXO RTC on the pcb :). > > > carl > > Henry Carl Ott

[neonixie-l] Re: Another newly-manufactured nixie tube

2020-06-02 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
This was posted on the Facebook Nixie group too. It was noted the "8" looks a bit funky. I'd like to see the digits as well but I have not seen any screenshots of the other digits. Granted "funky" coming from those of us who use IN-12's and IN-14's with the inverted "2" LOL. On Sunday, May 31,

Re: [neonixie-l] Another newly-manufactured nixie tube

2020-06-01 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
The price is crazy. Especially for a new manufacturer on the scene with no history. Dalibor is definitely a better value and I like his anode design too. if it was a CD47 clone it might be worth the risk but for $300 you might as well get two new DF tubes or some B-7971's. On Sunday, May 31,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shipment delays from Ukraine

2020-05-30 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
This past week I received three packets from China. Two were stuck in China waiting for air transport around April 7th (a third was last seen at a sorting center in Harlem when USPS accidentally entered the tracking number for a “U” untracked id and I saw it before they corrected the mistake).

Re: [neonixie-l] 1961 Heathkit Catalog

2020-05-28 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
My late father was a Professor of Chemistry and we often had "interesting" chemicals at home (Benzene, Diethyl Ether, Pentane, Carbon Tetrachloride (CCL), Butyl Acetate, Lab Alcohol, Toluene, Xylene and Sodium Hydroxide right off the top of my head). He also collected elements and I still have

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone with a ton of money? NL7094 and B7095 on eBay.....

2020-05-22 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Ooh, I have been out of the loop lately. I had not heard that. I have an odd fondness for front facing tubes like the ZM102x's and IN-12's. Maybe because the first Nixie tubes I ever saw (and captivated me) were front facing ones back around 1972 IIRC. Large tubes like that B-7095 that have

[neonixie-l] Re: Shipment delays from Ukraine

2020-05-18 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I have several items ordered through AliExpress languishing in shipment since mid April. Some items ordered a week or two earlier actually made it through but everything else from early April is listed as delivered to air transport (or shipping) in mid-April and there are no further updates. My

[neonixie-l] Re: Is it possible to identify a single nixie?

2020-05-16 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I had only one tube that had shorted segments: 4 & 5. I was able to fix them last fall with the banging method but due to having played with the tube over the last 40 years, there were other issues with it. Plus, after banging it to remove the short, I noted that segment 2 is now flaky and not

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
There was a post a little while ago about two Nixie's that appeared on eBay that are now priced $360 for two. The post was deleted so I cannot reply to it. I was wondering what is the test module that is powering the tubes demonstrating that all segments are functional? I tried a bit of Google

Re: [neonixie-l] Discovered an old advertisment

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
The first time I ever saw an Ultronics board was at a hamfest here on Long Island. It was either 1975 or 1976 making me either 13 or 14. I had no idea exactly what it was but I could tell it was some kind of display tube. The seller wanted $5, which looking back the price Burstein Applebee

[neonixie-l] Re: Discovered an old advertisment

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
“BTW, was Ultronics the only manufacturer to use B7971's in their products?” No. On eBay right now there is a commercial scoreboard device for sale the that uses 15 B-7971’s. No tubes included. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.

[neonixie-l] Re: Discovered an old advertisment

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
he words "removed from operational equipment". Did your NOS actually come > in Burroughs boxes marked with the tube type, or were they just covered in > bubble wrap? Did they look any different than the ones you got with the > boards? > > On Friday, April 3, 2020

[neonixie-l] Re: Discovered an old advertisment

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Yes, Meshna is where I got three boards from in 1979 and later on my seven NOS tubes. By 1980, the prices had almost doubled (used tubes were USD$4 and NOS were USD$5) which is understandable considering the massive inflation in the 1970's. I do not recall what I paid for the 3 boards in 1979.

[neonixie-l] Re: Have you seen these neons on Amazon?

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I too have similar NE-2G bulbs that are white colored and glow green when powered. I bought a pack of 20 a while back from China. They are about half the size of what a traditional NE-2 measured. However, I have about 10 or so NE-2G's that I purchased from Radio Shack back in the 1970's. Those

[neonixie-l] Re: Discovered an old advertisment

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Could have had FOUR for $8.88! On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 6:26:28 AM UTC-4, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: > > I am not sure what the exchange rate was then but I recall seeing an old > Burstein Applebee ad not too long ago from around that time where they were > around USD$2.50

[neonixie-l] Discovered an old advertisment

2020-04-03 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I am not sure what the exchange rate was then but I recall seeing an old Burstein Applebee ad not too long ago from around that time where they were around USD$2.50 each IIRC. By 1980, they were USD$4 each for pulls or USD$5 each for the seven NOS I purchased. -- You received this message

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-30 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I saw them when they first appeared. I didn't need them and thought the price was actually pretty good compared to prices in the USD$175 range only a few weeks ago. There are various multi-tube devices for sale now and they are priced around USD$120 or so per tube. It is hard to believe those

Re: [neonixie-l] NL-7094 Price Craziness

2020-02-27 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
That is the position I am coming from. I already have a six tube B-7971 clock that I built in 1979-1980 so at the moment I do not need another of that design. And I have been playing ZM1022's, IN-12's and GR-111p's so already have more clocks than I know what to do with at the moment LOL. I

Re: [neonixie-l] NL-7094 Price Craziness

2020-02-27 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
As of a few minutes ago there were 16 bids and the price was up to USD$356. Absolutely crazy but realistically there is nothing comparable being made currently and the Russians did not produce them either. I am going to have to look at putting the six NOS Burroughs branded tubes that I posted

[neonixie-l] Re: More Chinese Nixies show up, website updated.

2020-02-26 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
There is an error on the page that I noticed. The ZM1020 label is incorrect based on the tube shown. It should be ZM1210. ZM1020's (and ZM1022's) are round end-view tubes that are the same as the QS30-1 (except the ZM's have mercury in them). Robert On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 1:41:08 PM

Re: [neonixie-l] P12 Phosphor CRT

2020-02-12 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I recall an article I read years ago about the old RADAR tubes and phosphors used. There was a RADAR scope tube that had a mix of two phosphors. One phosphor produced a short persistence bright blue light from the target and the other was the longer persistence P12 type orange phosphor that

[neonixie-l] Re: Expensive NIMOs with mounting parts!

2020-02-10 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 4:52:19 AM UTC-5, Oscilloclock wrote: > > Sounds like a good investment! Unless someone starts to produce new NIMOs.. > > - Aaron > While I think they are very interesting, I cannot imagine someone making new ones or even that big a demand for them beyond a

Re: [neonixie-l] 1971 Nixie in a catalog

2020-02-10 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-5, gregebert wrote: > > I'll take a dozen NL7037.. > > I do remember getting one of these catalogs from Radio Shack back in the > 70's; pages and pages really neat stuff. > I had a catalog too from Radio Shack as they were also owned by Tandy.

[neonixie-l] Re: noisey clock

2020-01-08 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
That is the problem with my MM5311 based B7971 clock that I built 40 (ugh) years ago. The multiplexing causes the tubes to whine. It did not bother me much when I was younger but as I got older and was not sleeping as soundly, the noise became bothersome. I tried changing the frequency but its

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie sighting

2020-01-02 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
. Probably have the TI-57 somewhere too. I retired it when I got the TI-59. On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 3:53:39 PM UTC-5, Terry Bowman wrote: > > > On Jan 1, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath > wrote: > > There were ways to send ASCII symbols to the ASR33 punch that ca

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie sighting

2020-01-01 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
For me it was a timeshared PDP/11-70 which was located several miles from my high school. We had two "fast" DecWriter II's running at 300 baud that were used for normal interactive programming and two ASR33 teletypes that we could punch our assignments on offline and then upload later when an

[neonixie-l] Re: Argon Piranha

2019-12-20 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I always found Argon have an interesting color. My late father was a Professor of Chemistry and I still have all of his elemental gas discharge tubes that I fire up occasionally. Years ago I posted a simple website demonstrating them all at http://schaffrath.net/Spectra. The Argon tube is at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: More eBay craziness...

2019-12-05 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Looking at the bids, the winner has a feedback of "1": https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/264542801859?item=264542801859=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565 And the second and third highest bidders have feedback's of 30 and 31. Either shill bidders or someone really really dumb. The sanest bid looks like

[neonixie-l] Re: Huge (and expensive) panaplex clock on ebay

2019-11-15 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
The numbers are bit too fancy for my taste. I actually write my 7's with a line through them (a habit I picked up decades ago doing all-hands-on-deck warehouse serial number inventory and we were told to do that to prevent confusion with the number 1 as well as write S's as $ to avoid confusing

Re: [neonixie-l] Finished A 6-Digit IN-12 Clock Kit

2019-11-11 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I know. With the 11/11 "Singles" sale on AliExpress today, they have gotten even cheaper. I ordered up two QS30-1 units for ~USD$26 each for my ZM1022's. I already have two of that model and I really like them so I will have a few more to possibly give as gifts (I still have 17 NOS ZM1022's on

[neonixie-l] Re: New CD47 sized tubes?!

2019-10-31 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
The anode being used looks kind of funky compared to the one used on the CD47. It reminds me of the metal cloth fencing I buy at Home Depot to keep the rabbits out of my garden: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-4-in-x-2-ft-x-100-ft-Hardware-Cloth-308245EB/205960853 On Wednesday, October

Re: [neonixie-l] How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC?

2019-10-30 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Indeed. In the earlier days of me being licensed, my HF rig zapped me a few times due to problematic grounding issues. Seemed to have the most problems on 75m and 10m. On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 6:30:01 PM UTC-4, Terry Bowman wrote: > > > RF burns are the worst. Tesla put thimbles on his

[neonixie-l] Re: Heads Up: IN-12 Sale on eBay (20% off)

2019-10-29 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
my account for using an AMEX card so I decided to order 18 NOS IN-17 tubes too as I think I may have some future use for those very tiny ones (and they have a real "5"). If not, I doubt they will lose any value. On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:18:24 AM UTC-4, Robert G. Schaffrath wro

[neonixie-l] Re: How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC?

2019-10-28 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I am 57 now and during my younger years I have been shocked by approximately 600 VDC from a charged filter capacitor in an old tube amplifier. I had just powered off the unit and had my hand on the metal chassis. My needle nose pliers hit the positive on the capacitor and the jolt was so

[neonixie-l] Re: Heads Up: IN-12 Sale on eBay (20% off)

2019-10-17 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
; On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 2:47:12 PM UTC-3, Robert G. Schaffrath > wrote: >> >> I just picked up a lot of 12 (2 x 6) NOS IN-12 Nixie's on eBay that are >> temporarily price reduced 20% to USD$8.80. Total came to USD$30.00 + my >> local tax. I am really not c

RE: [neonixie-l] Heads Up: IN-12 Sale on eBay (20% off)

2019-10-16 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
The link is: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273821219802 Being new I wasn’t sure of policy on posting links to sales. I have no connection to seller. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l"

[neonixie-l] Heads Up: IN-12 Sale on eBay (20% off)

2019-10-16 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I just picked up a lot of 12 (2 x 6) NOS IN-12 Nixie's on eBay that are temporarily price reduced 20% to USD$8.80. Total came to USD$30.00 + my local tax. I am really not crazy about the inverted "2" but as they are not making these any more, having some on hand for possible future use seemed

[neonixie-l] Re: Check out these!

2019-10-16 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I may have to get one or two. I have seen some Chinese boards that use them as VU meters. Very interesting to watch and I love the shade of green they produce. The "Magic Eye" tubes are some of my earliest memories of electronics. My parents ancient Fisher stereo uses a very rare 6GE12 tube

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I'm Back: ZM1022 and B-7971

2019-10-13 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
fashion on a table. The >> socket being used to protect the pins and the nipple. Also try smacking >> the face of the tube into your hand. >> >> >> >> Michail Wilson >> >> 206-920-6312 >> >> >> >> *From:* neoni...@googleg

[neonixie-l] Re: The rest of my Nixie tube collection (Part 2)

2019-10-11 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I will definitely post the results when I make the change. I am going to wait until the warranty return period is over before I make any changes. I put a short 30 second video of the clock in operation at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC2LtsPWbPc. The tubes are the ZM1022's. This morning I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I'm Back: ZM1022 and B-7971

2019-10-09 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
forum/m/#!searchin/neonixie-l/Shorted$20segment$20b7971/neonixie-l/w4YmXnY9dgE > > > > *Jeff * > > -------- Original message > From: "Robert G. Schaffrath" > > Date: 10/8/19 8:47 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: neonixie-l > > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I'm Back: ZM1022 and B-7971

2019-10-08 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
With me it is the only B-7971 tube I have like that. It came from the first Ultronics board I ever purchased in the late 1970's. It came from Poly Paks IIRC. It was actually a bad deal for me. Apparently the board had been serviced which explains the genuine Burroughs tube that was on the

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