Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Can shift gears, but it's got no go! Help please!

[James O'Gorman]

Does the shifter lever feel like it is actually engaging the transmission, or 
does it feel like it is disconnected? Can you see anything bent or broken in 
the linkage between the shifter and transmission?

Squeeze the clutch lever and does it feel like normal?

You can also try putting the bike in gear (engine off) and try to rotate the 
tire and see if it moves or not (bike on center stand if you have it).

> On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Cencal Nighthawk Rider  
> wrote:
> 
> So I dropped her, my 1984 cb650sc, and for no other reason than I wasn't 
> paying attention and had to break and miss a curb. So I dropped it on the 
> right side, got it back up and turned the engine over and it started right 
> up. I put it in gear and nothing, now I can switch through the gears without 
> pulling in the clutch and I get nothing 1st through OD it's like it's always 
> in nutral. Any one else have this issue? This is my daily driver and I don't 
> have anything else so all help is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nice picture of dirt

[James O'Gorman]

At least it is in great conditbion!

> On Oct 22, 2016, at 12:26, Marion  wrote:
> 
> I am going to the Cherokee Casino for Halloween.  If I had that bike I could 
> play the Slots at home huh ??? Lol
> 
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 9:44:41 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:
>> This is one of the better craigslist posts I've seen lately.
>> 
>> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/mcy/5830595708.html
>> 
>> Can't help but wonder what he was doing with that ball peen hammer, too. 
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Stuck bolt

[James O'Gorman]

Good idea to try and tighten the bolt just to break it free. The clamping force 
of the bolt isn't why this one is stuck - it is the corrosion between the 
threads. That is why heat works - it expands the bolt / threads just enough to 
overcome the corrosion. 

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:47, Lar Lar  wrote:
> 
> All good ideas to try so far.  Have you tried using the impact wrench to 
> tighten the bolt for just a few impacts, then try loosening it, maybe that 
> will break the corrosion bond.  Also do you know what the ft/lbs of your 
> impact tool is?  Mine is an electric one rated at 220 ft/lbs and it would not 
> take off the wheel nuts off on my car (thanks dealership, lol) but when taken 
> off by a garage to have the wheels balanced and put back on at the proper 
> torque it was fine. 
> We're all pulling for ya!
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Stuck bolt

[James O'Gorman]

Try to use impact while it is still hot.

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:15, Jared Clifton  wrote:
> 
> Drilling is going to be my last resort. And, at this point, I don't really 
> see any other alternative.
> 
> I used a 6-point socket. Actually, three different ones from different sets I 
> had, in case one was rounded. I also bought one of those Craftsman Bolt 
> Extractor kits, which also refused to budge this thing. I let the penetrating 
> oil set for days (used both Liquid Wrench and PB Blaster), applying a bit 
> more each day. I've been working on this for over a week. I tried a 12" 
> breaker bar and an impact driver. My longer breaker bar is for 1/2" sockets, 
> and I don't have a 12mm socket in 1/2 inch.
> 
> I believe I'm seeing a couple of issues here. The first is that the bolt is 
> upside down, so the penetrating oil has a harder time working its way up to 
> the threads. Secondly, I took a look at the other bolt (that I actually did 
> remove), and there is a significant amount of shaft between where the head is 
> and the threads start. And I can't see any way to get at this bolt from the 
> top, where the threads are.
> 
> Last night I applied more PB Blaster and let it sit. Then I hit it with a 
> torch for 30 seconds, and let it cool. Then I tried the breaker bar and the 
> impact driver on it. Repeat. It simply will not budge.
> 
> -Jared
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 9:46:54 AM UTC-7, jrhoyt0895 wrote:
>> Have you considered drilling through the bolt, like you would if you had a 
>> screw with a stripped head?
>> 
>> Consistent with other advice, I think you did what I would have done, 
>> although I might have done it a tad differently:
>> 
>> -I don't know if you used a 6-point socket or a 12-point socket, a 6-point 
>> socket is the way to go here.
>> -How long is your breaker bar?  The longer it is, the more leverage you 
>> have, giving you the ability to be a bit more gentle.
>> -When using a breaker bar, I always try to push down, rather than up or to 
>> the side.
>> -How long did you let the penetrating oil sit?  When using penetrating oil, 
>> patience can really pay off.
>> 
>> One last thing: Imagine the bolt is a jar of pickles someone just handed you 
>> while asking, "Can you open this for me?"  You turn the lid and it pops off 
>> with almost no effort, and you say, "You must have loosened it."  In other 
>> words, be gentle, spray some penetrating oil on it, and they walk away for a 
>> while.  Then try gently again later, and repeat until the thing comes off.
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[James O'Gorman]

Soak it with PB blaster and use Impact if available. I agree with a new
socket as well - old worn sockets = rounded bolt heads. Using Mapp gas
would be the additional step. It burns hotter than Propane. You'll find the
little yellow bottles in the hardware store next to the little blue propane
bottles. Hit it with one or two torches of MAPP gas for a while after a
good soaking of PB blaster and you should be able to get it off. If the
bolt head breaks, you can usually weld a nut over the broken-off stud.
Avoid using any extensions if possible.

I wouldn't suggest the bottle jack method (although it does sound very
good). This would actually result in a lot of broken tools. This is because
it puts a lot of side-ways stress on all the components instead of axial
(twisting) force on the bolt threads themselves. If you have used a 4-way
tire iron, think about how using handles on both sides of the bolt versus
just on one side like with a ratchet. If you've ever tapped a thread, the
concept is the same. Tap handles are always "T" handles so that the tap
doesn't break off. 100% of the force goes to the threads instead of the
components like the handle, ratchet, socket, extension, ets.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Jared Clifton 
wrote:

> Ooh, Great idea Richard! I'll try that tonight.
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Richard Potter 
> wrote:
>
>> GET A GOOD / NEW 6 point socket put a breaker bar on it then put a bottle
>> of scissor   jack under it
>>
>> With just enough pressure so it will not come off while pulling on the bar
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googl
>> egroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:55 AM
>> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>>
>>
>>
>> I can try and take one later. I'm at work now. It's not completely
>> stripped, but the corners are definitely rounded. It's one of the two 12 mm
>> bolts on the underside that connect the pipes to the frame. So, to get to
>> it you come up at it from under the bike. Not a ton of room to work. I
>> suspect that the threads are a bit corroded and probably fused to the
>> frame, particularly given that it's right next to the exhaust.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just hoping to hear some tricks I might not have tried yet, or what
>> others have had success with.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Jared
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Richard Potter
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can you post a photo of the bolt?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nighthaw...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthaw...@googlegroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:22 AM
>> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>>
>>
>>
>> I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the
>> existing one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the
>> underside that holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my
>> impact driver, some liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt
>> Extractors, and in the end, just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I
>> would post about it here and see if anyone has any recommendations before I
>> spend any more money. I hear good things about PB Blaster, but I worry I
>> won't be able to get it up into the threads, since the bolt is upside down.
>> I also read about using a propane torch on it (although that made me a
>> little nervous). Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Jared
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Help on repair cost

[James O'Gorman]

The best bet is to get a parts bike and have a shop do the engine swap if you 
aren't able to do it. I don't know if parts like main bearings are easy to get 
for that year/model. For my 83 when the engine spun a main bearing I ended up 
selling it since it wasn't very easy to find everything and you weren't 
guaranteed success.

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:30, Nate Craft  wrote:
> 
> I absolutely agree with Kyle. There are so many Nighthawk 250's out there 
> that are in great shape. Find one and enjoy it!
> 
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:11:24 PM UTC-4, Scott McKinley wrote:
>> At $50/hr shop time and assuming no other problems, can someone give me an 
>> estimate of total cost (parts & labor)? Thanks
>> 
>> 1999 Honda Nighthawk 250cc obo
>> 
>> http://reno.craigslist.org/mpo/5779001358.html
>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Weight of the centerstand?

[James O'Gorman]

I would guess it is about 3-4 lbs for the assembly. So maybe ~.5% of total bike 
weight. Knowing that it is VERY useful but only a small percent of times, you 
could pull it to save weight and bolt it up for oil changes and service.

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 16:08, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
> 
> The center stand doesn't weigh much at all. It's pretty small, and it's made 
> of bent and welded tube instead of solid stock. One spring, three bolts; 
> there just isn't much there.
> 
> It's utility-to-weight ratio is AMAZING though.
> 
> If you're looking for performance improvements, I'd look elsewhere; you won't 
> feel it. Synch the carbs, make sure they're clean, use good quality fuel, get 
> a good quality fuel filter.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016 13:30, "menom7"  wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I just wanted to ask a pretty simple question on here,after SCOURING the 
>> internet for HOURS,with ZERO-ANSWERS ANYWHERE!!! LOL.
>> 
>> Anyhoo...I have a a 2001 Honda CB-750 that I bought "used" a few 
>> years ago,and have enjoyed MANY trouble-free miles with it!!! When I get 
>> "bored",I try to find a NEW way to "enhance" it's power/performance 
>> characteristics,and knowing that by simply increasing it's "power-to-weight" 
>> ratio,is probably one of the easiest ways to do this,I wanted to ask ANYONE 
>> OUT THERE who may know the answer to this,...
>> 
>> HOW MUCH,does the centerstand ONLY,on this motorcycle weigh??? That's 
>> INCLUDING all the nuts/bolts/collars,etc. that connect it to the bike 
>> itself!?!?
>> 
>> Any help on this question,would be GREATLY appreciated!!! When I bought 
>> this,it had already been "lowsided" twice by the previous-owners of it,so I 
>> had to rejuvenate it with some used parts,etc. to get it road-worthy,but it 
>> DID NOT COME with the centerstand on it!!! There is only the "holes" in the 
>> frame where it used to attach to it,so knowing thisI KNOW that 
>> by NOT having it on the bike,that REDUCES the overall "weight" of it 
>> significantly!!! Which helps not only my gas-mileage,but my 
>> power/performance as well!!! So again,if anyone knows the answer to 
>> this,PLEASE post on here!!! Thanks again!!! Keep the rubber on the road!!! 
>> ~Peace~
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB750c charging fault

[James O'Gorman]

The bikes don't usually charge at idle. What was it running here? 

> On Jul 12, 2016, at 20:12, Jeremy  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bike not running I'm getting 12.5 at the battery.  The display in the pic is 
> tapped into the meter back light.  Even running voltage doesn't change much , 
> over 3000 rpm I never see over 12.9 at the battery (voltage display in the 
> meter hangs around 10.9) I've checked stator and brush.  I don't think it's 
> the regulator.  With the voltage difference I'm seeing between bat and 
> connection at meter light, I think it's resistance somewhere.  I did jump the 
> key switch to rule it out.  My next guess is fuse panel.  
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] VJMC West Coast Rally

[James O'Gorman]

Ahh - I won't be able to make that this year.

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 07:45, Richard Potter <rpot...@anaheim.net> wrote:
> 
> If you have a interest in going we could meet up there
> If anyone on the west coast wants to ride out
> Together contact me thru forum
>  
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James O'Gorman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:49 PM
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
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> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] VJMC West Coast Rally
>  
> I live outside Milwaukee, WI.
>  
> What are you looking for? I think there are a few other 'hawkers in this area.
>  
>  - James
>  
> On Jul 6, 2016, at 15:30 PM, Richard Potter wrote:
> 
> 
> Anybody in the Midwest
> I will be riding out from So Cal
> On the 25th
>  
> From: VJMC-NA [mailto:eve...@vjmc.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:22 AM
> To: Richard Potter
> Subject: VJMC West Coast Rally
>  
> 
> 
> VJMC West Coast Rally
> Prescott, Arizona
> August 26-28, 2016 
>  
> 
> This event is for VJMC members and their guests only. Guests are limited to 
> riding as a passenger on the rides and are not permitted to enter a bike into 
> the bike show. Guests who wish to ride their own bike on the rides and/or 
> enter a bike in the bike show may do so by joining the club on-site. A 
> one-year membership is $30.00.
>  
> The cost of the event is $40.00 for members (guests are free, unless they 
> want a T-shirt, in which case the cost is $10.00). The registration fee 
> covers an event T-shirt, participation in the daily rides, gas for the chase 
> truck, unlimited entries into the bike show and some door prizes to be given 
> away during the event.
>  
> There will be optional dinners on Friday and Saturday, and an optional brunch 
> on Sunday. The plan for these optional meals is to meet at a designated local 
> restaurant, and everyone will order whatever they want off the menu and pay 
> their own tab (i.e., the registration fee does not include any of the 
> optional meals).
>  
> If you'd like to attend this event, just show up and pay when you get there 
> (i.e., there is no pre-registration required or available for this event).  
> That said, please RSVP so that we can make sure that we have enough T-shirts 
> in the right sizes and enough bike show trophies.  To RSVP, please send an 
> email to westcoastra...@vjmc.org with your name, number of guests (if any), 
> t-shirt size(s) and what bike(s) you are bringing for the bike show.
>  
> The rally headquarters will be the Hassayampa Inn located at 122 E. Gurley 
> Street in Prescott.  The hotel's phone number is (800) 322-1927. Staying at 
> this hotel is encouraged, but not required. There are other hotels nearby, as 
> well as facilities for RVs and camping. Bottom line: stay wherever you want 
> but if you are staying at the Hassayampa Inn tell them you are with the VJMC.
>  
> The bike show will be held Saturday morning at a location to be announced. 
> Trophies will be awarded. Classes will be determined based on the number and 
> brands/types entered.
>  
> There will be a ride on Friday afternoon, and a ride Saturday afternoon. Both 
> rides will start and end at the Hassayampa Inn. A chase truck with trailer 
> will be provided. Riders must have a valid motorcycle license, and bikes must 
> have insurance and current registration.
>  
> If you have any questions or comments, please email us at 
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>  
> Hope to see you at what promises to be a fun and relaxing event dedicated to 
> enjoying our vintage Japanese motorcycles with lots of like-minded fellow 
> Club members.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] VJMC West Coast Rally

[James O'Gorman]

I live outside Milwaukee, WI.

What are you looking for? I think there are a few other 'hawkers in this area.

 - James

On Jul 6, 2016, at 15:30 PM, Richard Potter wrote:

> Anybody in the Midwest
> I will be riding out from So Cal
> On the 25th
>  
> From: VJMC-NA [mailto:eve...@vjmc.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:22 AM
> To: Richard Potter
> Subject: VJMC West Coast Rally
>  
> 
> 
> VJMC West Coast Rally
> Prescott, Arizona
> August 26-28, 2016 
>  
> 
> This event is for VJMC members and their guests only. Guests are limited to 
> riding as a passenger on the rides and are not permitted to enter a bike into 
> the bike show. Guests who wish to ride their own bike on the rides and/or 
> enter a bike in the bike show may do so by joining the club on-site. A 
> one-year membership is $30.00.
>  
> The cost of the event is $40.00 for members (guests are free, unless they 
> want a T-shirt, in which case the cost is $10.00). The registration fee 
> covers an event T-shirt, participation in the daily rides, gas for the chase 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carburator Basics...

[James O'Gorman]

“click click” means that things are trying to work. keep the battery charging 
for a while and try again. verify that the cells in the battery are filled up 
properly.

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Richard Potter  wrote:
> 
> Ck your ground cable where it bolts to the engine / frame
> Take it off and clean it
> Ck for voltage at the solenoid
> One side will be hot all the time the other will be hot when cranking
>  
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of NghthwkLvr (NL)
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:40 PM
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carburator Basics...
>  
> So!...still a CLICK-CLICK when I hit the START button...
> 
> Thoughts? Suggestions? 
> 
> Working on cleaning the starter now...
> 
> 
> -NghtHwkLvr
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 3:29:01 PM UTC-5, Richard Potter wrote:
> Yes your tender lead should have a fuse inline that lead is your positive 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carburator Basics... 
> 
> SO!...I had the new battery tested at Sears and it tested GOOD on 200 
> CCAs 
> 
> I am preparing to re-install the battery with the tender leads so I am going 
> to put the leads between the battery terminals and the +/- wiresassuming 
> that is the best way, right? 
> 
> -Nghthwklvr 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Out for an evening ride

[James O'Gorman]

She has the luggage rack and windscreen - I'm jealous (for my wife, of course)

> On Jun 13, 2016, at 17:13, Paul  wrote:
> 
> My wife and I were out for a leisurely evening ride last night and we ran 
> into some friends who took a picture. 
> 
> 
> ​
> By the way, my wife is on her Honda Elite 110 and she LOVES RIDING IT!! 
> She can do about 55 MPH with a tailwind :)
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The wife went and did it...

[James O'Gorman]

I think I meant the owners manual - I can't find mine after 5 years. It has the 
scheduled maintenance and other useful things. I've looked on eBay before and 
didn't see it.

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 00:10, Phil <bailey.phi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Service manual? Those bikes don't need a service manual. Just go!
> 
> 
>> On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 6:39:00 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:55 PM, James O'Gorman <aspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do you have  a service manual? I seem to have lost ours and cant find them 
>>> online :(
>>> 
>> 
>> ​Nope...only the owners manual.​
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The wife went and did it...

[James O'Gorman]

We have an Elite 100!! Awesome!
We actually love it - two full-face helmets under the seat - liquid cooled
- fuel injection... only made in the US for one year (2010).

We have about 1100 miles on it so far - bought it new in 2011.

Do you have  a service manual? I seem to have lost ours and cant find them
online :(


On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> That is awesome, wish I could get my wife in to riding.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 1, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Paul  wrote:
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> This past February (I think it was) we bought a Honda Elite 110 scooter
> and yesterday my wife took and passed her motorcycle permit test. So last
> evening we drove all over town. When we got home she looked at me and
> smiled and said, "I think I finally get why you like this so much!" :)
> (This is a woman who has ridden on the BACK of my bikes for the past 38
> years.)
>
> Here's a geographical note about permits in our State: Oregon considers
> the term "*scooter*" to essentially mean "a small motorcycle." The only
> kinds of two wheeled motorized categories (as far as Oregon is concerned)
> are mopeds and motorcycles. A moped is ANY bike under 50cc (scooter or
> otherwise) and a motorcycle is any bike OVER 50cc's. So, since my wife's
> Honda is 110cc's she is riding a motorcycle (as least as Oregon sees it for
> licensing purposes).
>
> That means her permit AND eventual endorsement will entitle her to ride
> ANY size motorcycle. (She's already talking about buying my son's Nighthawk
> 750!!!) Sheesh! I think I created a monster! :)
>
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] compression on cb450sc Nighthawk

[James O'Gorman]

I think the exact number isn't as important as "even". If you have a burnt/bent 
valve or broken compression ring, then one cylinder will be noticeable lower 
than the other cylinder(s). I think they say "within 10%" is the goal for all 
cylinders. 
Aside - not sure the math works like that. The compression is from BDC to TDC. 
There is extra volume above the top of the cylinder and the valves may or may 
not be completely closed when the cylinder starts back towards the top.
14.7 is STP for sea level. The dynamic compression is relative to ambient temp 
and pressure (the air outside the bike). Static compression is the 9:1 ratio. 
You have a naturally aspirated bike which means no turbo/super charger. This 
means that your volumetric efficiency (VE) is most likely < 100 (meaning you 
don't actually take in exactly 450 cc - more like 350-400. I think that only 
nascar can get over 100% VE meaning their engine would pump more than total 
displacement - maybe like 460 in this example.

> On May 30, 2016, at 15:56, jonpalms  wrote:
> 
> I hope someone can enlighten me on this issue.
> I tested my wifes 1986 honda cb450sc nighthawk for compression value. I think 
> its suppose to be 9/1 compression ratio and I guess that should be 9 times 
> 14,7, wich is 132,3 psi. I`m not sure this is correct though. Some places I 
> read that the compression is suppose to be 185 psi. The result from my tests 
> show appr. 120-125 psi and 125-130 psi and when I added some oil in the 
> cylinder it just raised a few psi. Hot engine and open throttle. 
> The bike runs pretty good but its running lean I think, since sparkplugs are 
> pretty white colored. 
> Is 125 psi too low? If there is some leak, and the wet test only gave a few 
> more psi, where can it be. valves?
> 
> Another thing is the lean running engine. We just got this bike from the US, 
> and I don`t know its history. I figure a good carburator cleaning would fix 
> the lean problem. Any suggestions? 
> 
> Appreciate some good advice :) 
> 
> Jon
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Riding With A Gun

[James O'Gorman]

There was a recent story though where a police officer had a SOB holster (small 
of back) who slipped on a small patch of ice and ended up in a wheelchair. 
Iirc, he was a helicopter pilot working overtime in a car and couldn't fly 
anymore... 

> On May 29, 2016, at 21:08, 'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
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> Probably did
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 29, 2016, at 7:39 PM, paul annen  wrote:
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>> I'm going to chime in on this. About a month back I dumped my cbr in a sand 
>> patch coming up to a stop sign. I did a superman over the handlebars, but 
>> between my duty pistol and the kydex holster on my hip and my training I 
>> walked away with a small scrape on my Palm and a few scratches on the 
>> holster (wore a hole through my favorite shirt)... to this day I claim that 
>> the holster prevented road rash and possibly bruising and broken bones...
>> 
>> On May 28, 2016 10:24 PM, "'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk Motorcycle 
>> Lovers!"  wrote:
>> Very true
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 28, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One thing they don't mention is even in states that allow conceal carry, 
>>> it's best not to have a gun up against you. Especially not up against your 
>>> spine or ribs. If you go down, it could cause more injuries.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Kyle
>>> 
 On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 10:49 AM, 'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk 
 Motorcycle Lovers!  wrote:
 https://youtu.be/HCkvvBm3320
 
 Good article for you shooters among us
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Croatia by motorcycle

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That's awesome! My wife was born in Zagreb and spent a lot of time in Doboj. I 
was over a few years ago and we drive from Doboj to Neum on the coast. The part 
between Mostar and Neum was an Awesome road and I wished I could have taken it 
on a motorcycle. We stopped in the mountains and bought fresh fruit from some 
locals.

> On May 25, 2016, at 15:15, EGrider  wrote:
> 
> Well, those of you who know me know that I love to take motorcycle tours. 
> This time it's Croatia on a 650 BMW. I picked it up in Zagreb, rode it to 
> Rovinj on the coast yesterday, and today I rode it to the island of Losinj, 
> where I am now.  Had to take a ferry to get here, and on the ferry I saw this 
> Yamaha 900 TDM. Looks very interesting. Do they sell them in the States, or 
> is this a European model, I wonder. Never saw one before.
> 
> I've got to mention, a couple of hours ago I was riding down the island of 
> Cres looking at some incredible scenery. There was a pulloff for the view on 
> the opposite side of the road, so I signaled a left turn and started to turn 
> into it. Well, there was a long line off cars getting off the ferry, so it 
> was quite a caravan for a while.  An impatient car had just passed me, so I 
> thought there was no one behind me for a while. I was wrong. A second car was 
> passing me as I turned left, guess he never saw my blinker, and we collided. 
> I felt the impact and heard something hit the pavement. He continued past and 
> I pulled over. When my wife and I checked the bike, there was no damage. I 
> was so relieved. What had I felt and heard?
> 
> I was very lucky. Had I pulled over a half-second earlier, he would have 
> rear-ended me at high speed when I was turned at an angle. This list would 
> have lost another member in short succession. Now, I always check the mirror 
> and turn my head back to check when I change lanes on the Interstate, but not 
> always on 2-lane roads. I will every time from today on. Maybe beep the horn 
> as I start to pass. You should, too. 
> 
> I'll send more pics as the ride progresses. We plan to see the Plitvice 
> lakes, the island of Hvar, Dubrovnik, Perast in Montenegro, and Mostar in 
> Bosnia-Herzegovina. You know what they say, when you die, your only regrets 
> are the things you didn't do. I'm hoping to have as few regrets as possible.
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Clean carbs, new battery, won't stay alive

[James O'Gorman]

Feel the pipes right after starting. You can tell which cylinders are firing. 
Maybe a primary jet is blocked still.

> On Feb 14, 2016, at 14:12, 'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
>  wrote:
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> Check the spark - coils, wires & plugs. I've had to replace a coil. I've got 
> new plugs but have not had time to install.
> 
> Mine did the same. That's when I discovered 1 & 4 weren't firing 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Mike Harrison  wrote:
>> 
>> So my 650 sat for a long time, I disassembled and cleaned the carbs, got a 
>> new battery, and I can't keep the thing started.
>> 
>> Mostly it will just turn and not survive more than 1-2 seconds. Using 
>> starter fluid directly into the carb the best I was able to manage was about 
>> 20 seconds of the engine turning before it slowly died. I got discouraged 
>> and haven't worked on it for a few months, I vaguely remember thinking I 
>> should check the fuse box next, any ideas?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 650 for sale

[James O'Gorman]

Definitely in the bottom end. I've heard both before. 

:(


 On Jul 29, 2015, at 00:00, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is the knocking top end or bottom end? If top end, have you tried running 
 some Marvel Mystery Oil through the engine oil to flush out the hydraulic 
 tappets? 
 
 
 -Kyle
 
 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just posted the bike on Craigslist:
 http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mcy/5145727369.html
 
 
 unless anyone has any cheap engines... 
 
 :)
 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 15:49 PM, Graham Rogers wrote:
 
 Too bad you are that far away from PA.  I have an '84 with a good engine 
 but no title.  I have had the engine running and it sounds great. Graham
 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:22 PM, James O'Gorman wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 After much consideration, I have decided to sell my 83 Nighthawk CB650SC. 
 I got the bike from my wife's uncle after it sat for many years. I got it 
 fixed up and running; but only rode about 3,000 miles and the engine 
 started knocking. It will need a new engine or a rebuild.
 
 New parts include:
  - Front and rear tire (brand new)
  - Air filter
  - Rebuilt starter
  - New fork seals
  - Plugs
 
 Other goodies:
  - Has both side covers
  - Has center stand
  - Has luggage rack  sissy bar
  - Rebuilt carbs
  - Rebuilt petcock
  - All the fluids replaced
  - Clean title
 
 I was considering a rebuild and this guy has a nice writeup, but it is 
 more than i'm up for at this time. 
 http://ujmforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=278p=1563. The video on his page is 
 exactly what mine sounds like now.
 The price would be ~$5-600 for a new engine.
 
 This was a complete, working bike before the engine went. Has some minor 
 cosmetic flaws typical of a 31 year old bike.
 
 Asking $500. Easily worth that in parts. Delivery negotiable. I live in 
 Hartford, WI.
 
 I'll be listing on CL in the next week but wanted to give you guys first 
 dibs. 
 
 616.406.7231
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 650 for sale

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Just posted the bike on Craigslist:
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mcy/5145727369.html


unless anyone has any cheap engines... 

:)

On Jul 19, 2015, at 15:49 PM, Graham Rogers wrote:

 Too bad you are that far away from PA.  I have an '84 with a good engine but 
 no title.  I have had the engine running and it sounds great. Graham
 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:22 PM, James O'Gorman wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 After much consideration, I have decided to sell my 83 Nighthawk CB650SC. I 
 got the bike from my wife's uncle after it sat for many years. I got it 
 fixed up and running; but only rode about 3,000 miles and the engine started 
 knocking. It will need a new engine or a rebuild.
 
 New parts include:
  - Front and rear tire (brand new)
  - Air filter
  - Rebuilt starter
  - New fork seals
  - Plugs
 
 Other goodies:
  - Has both side covers
  - Has center stand
  - Has luggage rack  sissy bar
  - Rebuilt carbs
  - Rebuilt petcock
  - All the fluids replaced
  - Clean title
 
 I was considering a rebuild and this guy has a nice writeup, but it is more 
 than i'm up for at this time. 
 http://ujmforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=278p=1563. The video on his page is 
 exactly what mine sounds like now.
 The price would be ~$5-600 for a new engine.
 
 This was a complete, working bike before the engine went. Has some minor 
 cosmetic flaws typical of a 31 year old bike.
 
 Asking $500. Easily worth that in parts. Delivery negotiable. I live in 
 Hartford, WI.
 
 I'll be listing on CL in the next week but wanted to give you guys first 
 dibs. 
 
 616.406.7231
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help!

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You may have a bad ground on the headlight which is why both high and low went 
at the same time.
With the fuses - were they pulled while the power was on? They could have 
popped when you pushed the fuse back in.
If you are umm... Confident... That there are no shorts, then you can jump the 
fuse until you get home. Not recommend of course. It is impossible to know for 
sure without using a meter.


 On Jul 21, 2015, at 18:39, Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, so my headlight (high and low) went out on the 1 mile ride back to the 
 apartment.  I pulled the cover to check fuses and they all appear ok.  I 
 pulled three out to look closer and put them back in.  Now NO lights (head, 
 neutral, or running), no start...nothing.  Horn works and signals work.  I 
 have 1 hour before dark and a small thunderstorm just getting here.  Quick 
 suggestions??
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help!

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And the no- start. If your ignition still has power, you can always pop the 
clutch just like in a car. It can get hairy, but if you are in a pinch... Don't 
drop the bike when your doing it. Straddle the seat and get it rolling 
downhill. Then pick you feet up, put in first gear and release the clutch. This 
will spin the engine. Then pull the clutch back in just like when you release 
the start button. Then you can proceed as normal.


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 Ok, so my headlight (high and low) went out on the 1 mile ride back to the 
 apartment.  I pulled the cover to check fuses and they all appear ok.  I 
 pulled three out to look closer and put them back in.  Now NO lights (head, 
 neutral, or running), no start...nothing.  Horn works and signals work.  I 
 have 1 hour before dark and a small thunderstorm just getting here.  Quick 
 suggestions??
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signal Issue

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Are they LED bulbs?


 On Jul 18, 2015, at 10:46, 'Jaybird248' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
 nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hey, guys. I've developed a curious turn signal malfunction on my '93 NH750 
 with 20K miles.  On left turns, dash indicator lights but not either turn 
 signal. On right turns, dash indicator is mostly out, occasionally flashes, 
 but only the rear signal flashes and it flashes normally. Front is out 
 completely. I can hear the flasher clicking under the seat in both 
 directions. These are not the original turn signals, and they've always 
 flashed faster and weaker than the OEM units. The previous owner installed 
 them.
 
 Anybody have an idea what might be going on?
 
 Thanks in advance, 
 
 Jay S
 '93 NH750
 '92 NH750 (retired)
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[Nighthawk Lovers] CX500 for sale

[James O'Gorman]

Just found this on my local CL.
1980 CX 500.
Condition unknown due to bike being sold by a relative of owner. Looks not 
too bad, but the next owner would need to do some upkeep.

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mcy/5119547952.html

Saddle bags, luggage rack, wrong-color wind fairings.


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help me plan my next motorcycle trip

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The salt flats are west of Salt Lake City, right on the border of Utah/Nevada. 
It is only a couple hours out of SLC. If you've never been there I would 
recommend it. There were some smaller roads the go north from there to connect 
back (eventually) to Ontario, OR.
Those roads are quite desolate but very neat. Anyone is able to just drive out 
on the salt and putz around. 


 On Jun 20, 2015, at 01:12, EGrider gevan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 People who have been on here long enough to know who I am know that I'm an 
 adventure junkie in addition to a motorcycle maniac. Here's a map with the 
 approximate route I plan to travel next month. Google maps only lets you put 
 in 10 cities, so a lot was decided by Google, not me, but I put in Sturgis, 
 Ontario, OR (to visit Paul), Denver (brother), and Branson/Nashville/Memphis 
 (also music junkie) as givens. If you can recommend any interesting places 
 not too far off the route or if you even want to invite me over for coffee or 
 worse, I welcome all comments.
 
 Unfortunately Ol' Yeller's headlight went on strike again tonight as I was 
 riding home from work. Not sure what to do about that as I'll definitely need 
 a headlight on the trip, if only for getting back to the motel after dinner.  
 It's sure to come on intermittently during the trip; maybe I'll just rig a 
 hotwire off the battery for emergencies. Too late to buy something else I 
 could trust for a trip like this short of a new bike, or at least it feels 
 like it to me, Dang! Headlight issue is creating a love/hate relationship 
 with my NH.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] what a crime

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The Harley sticker on the tank cracks me up :)


 On May 28, 2015, at 12:35, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 :-D 
 
 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 That'd be a great bike for somebody without feet, or taste. 
 
 
 -Kyle
 
 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Matthew Ward mastermech...@gmail.com 
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 http://madison.craigslist.org/mcy/5046712432.html
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Bulbs

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If it is a 1073 then It should fit. If you try another bulb then there are 
often differences in the socket that prevent it from seating properly.


 On May 23, 2015, at 11:41, john connolly lionjohnc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I need to replace a rear turn signal bulb. It says 1073 Stanley 12v 23w. Can 
 I replace it with any 12v 23 bulb? I'm not find a 1073 that looks the same as 
 mine and I can't find one that looks the same that is a 1073. Thanks for all 
 the knowledge and the knowledge yet to come!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Need Help:

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Back when I lived on the other side of the Mitten, I would go to this place 
near my college in Big Rapids.

http://www.powersedge.com/
Pretty far away from your place though...

 On May 19, 2015, at 16:06, Mike Thomas mike248...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dealer Service:
 Hello Everyone,
 First time poster and troubled.
 I have a 1984 Honda Night Hawk S 700 cc, ran great last year. Winterized it 
 this winter and now have gas pouring out the carbs and will not start.
 Here is my problem. I am looking for someone to service the bike, I live in 
 Oakland County in Michigan. Called two Honda dealers and they stated they do 
 not work on bikes that are over 10 years old. Does anyone know of anyone that 
 can work on this bike in this area? Can't wait to get out and ride again.
 Thanks,
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Fix/replace/ or sell?

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I have an 83 650 that I got from the wife's uncle (who got at a Detroit
police auction). I fixed it up and got about 1.5 seasons but then it
developed what I think is a rod knock.

It also has the usual cam chain noise, plus a noisy 5th gear (hums) and a
split oil passage where the oil pipe feeds into the head. I've tried fixing
the latter but with no luck.

Given these issues...

...the question is - should I fix it or sell it?

I don't see any decent engines for the 83-85 on eBay - just this one which
may be sketchy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-1985-HONDA-CB650SC-NIGHTHAWK-COMPLETE-ENGINE-MOTOR-CB-650-SC-/251920005535?hash=item3aa79a399fvxp=mtr

I'm outside Milwaukee, WI.

I've rebuild car engines before; top and bottom end, but not motorcycle. I
should already have most the tools needed - ring  spring compressors,
torque wrenches, etc.
I think at this point I would rather get a replacement engine/trans or a
parts bike rather than rebuild this one.

Thoughts?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Replacement turn sigs, and ignition.

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I got my four replacement stand-offs from Bike Bandit. They are good quality. 
83 650.


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:26, mark.wf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Turn sig stand-offs
 My front turn signal rubbers are kinda cracked. Where did we decide is the 
 best supplier for replacements?
 The sockets and lenses or ok, though one is newer than the other. 
 I already replaced the back ones; they take more of a beating.
 
 Ignition swt
 Earlier I mentioned having some ignition switch problems, and I might need to 
 get this or that from Ebay. It worked, but was flaky and seemed to get a good 
 contact only after a wiggle of the key. 
 I took it apart again, this time with lots of time and the luxury of having 
 done it before. The last time I did it I was starting a trip and had to get 
 it working ASAP. The result this time was incredible success. 
 The little white plastic part, that holds the contacts and rotates with the 
 turn of the key, had melted very slightly. At some point the contact got too 
 hot. The plastic was not so deformed that it would not work, as I thought. 
 The problem was that when the contact got hot it melted a tiny protrusion 
 under the spring-loaded contact. This was making the spring-loaded contact 
 sit crooked when under the normal pressure of re-assembly. When I scraped off 
 the very small excess plastic it seated properly and made reliable 
 connection. I was also happy to see that there had been no more overheating 
 or contact pitting since I cleaned and lubricated everything.
 
 So there, you can service an ignition switch on an '83 550/650 if it is not 
 too badly deformed. Just don't trash the end cap when you take it off. 
 Remember to pry it off when the key is in the ON position. If you do screw up 
 the little plastic detents that hold the cap on, you may need to fabricate a 
 strap to go from one mounting screw, over the cap and to the other mounting 
 screw, like I did, to hold it all together.
 
 
 
   
  
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Really neat russian all wheel drive off road bike.

[James O'Gorman]

I wonder how tough the tires are. That actually looks like it could be pretty 
useful. It looks like trucker inner tubes with belts around them.


 On Apr 12, 2015, at 12:53, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's handy the way the whole thing comes apart at the end, you can just 
 toss it in the dishwasher to clean it.
 
 
 -Kyle
 
 On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d1jNHBA5hAsns=em
 
 Allen Thomas
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 450 nighthawk carb intake boots

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He did have the maturity of a 5 year old...


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 Am I really there only one offended by this f*cktard?  How dare he call any 
 NH a POS!
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 450 nighthawk carb intake boots

[James O'Gorman]

You guys do know that we were kinda asking for it though, right? I like 
customization but always cringe when someone asks about it on this forum. 


 On Apr 11, 2015, at 16:49, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry about that folks, digiflux is now banned. Godspeed to his poor 450.
 
 
 -Kyle
 
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 look,  i didn't ask if i should keep the stock setup, i asked where to buy 
 intake boots for this pos.  i already threw away the stock air cleaner box.  
  i'm going to cut this thing up.   i should have known better than to ask 
 you honda nerds.fuck off...
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Unknown switch on my 1983 550 Honda Nighthawk

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Ejector seat?


 On Apr 10, 2015, at 16:59, Matthew Ward mastermech...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am going with the aforementioned aftermarket lighting
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] HELP!

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When was the last time it ran? You could try tapping on The starter when you 
press the start button. Have you checked the fuses?


 On Mar 31, 2015, at 21:03, Tyler Hooten tylerpathoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First to admit im a novice on motorcycle knowledge, this is my first bike, 
 went to start it this afternoon and it wont do anything. I still have power 
 to lights and all instruments just when i hit the ignition button nothing 
 happens. No clicking, buzzing, or any sense of the bike wanting to turn over. 
 Initially i thought the battery might be dead. However my headlight works 
 great. Trying to figure out asap since this is my only means of 
 transportation. Any help or tips on what i should look at would be very 
 greatly appreciated!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What are his options?

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When I got my bike, it never came with any keys. It was from a police auction.
All I had to do was take out the lock cylinder and bring it to the local Honda 
Authorized Dealership and they were able to cut a new key. There is a code 
stamped on the cylinder and they look it up in a book. Then they use a special 
took to cut the key. The tool was more like a hand held punch press than any 
other key copier that i've seen. 

The bike is an 83 CB650SC Nighthawk.

The place was called Power Motorsports at the time. This was about 7 years 
ago. Now it seems to be listed under this name:
http://www.davidallenracingmotorsports.com/

That is likely an easier option that drive the bike in circles all the way to 
the dealership :)


 - James


On Mar 30, 2015, at 16:31 PM, Paul wrote:

 Man do I wish!
 
 On Mar 30, 2015 2:24 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, so the key is there in the fork lock!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 30, 2015, at 15:12, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then ride it until it runs out of gas?
 
 ​Actually it's worse than that! Before coming in the house he locked the 
 front fork!!​
 
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Spring Oil Change made a little more challenging

[James O'Gorman]

Yup, I've done this a few times. The worst [most embarrassing] was two years 
ago. I just took the bike out of storage and got it all fired up. I took it to 
work on Monday. I got out of work and walked up to the bike only to realize 
that not only A) the Key was left in the bike ALL DAY but also B) it was left 
in Accessory ALL DAY. I think I was too excited about having it out again and I 
forgot what I was doing... :(

So I had to get a jump. I let it warm up for a bit at high enough RPMs so that 
it was charging, then started home. I made it a few blocks, but it died when 
shifting to Neutral at a stop when I wasn't fast enough to hit N and then get 
back on the throttle. :( It wouldn't start from popping the clutch since it was 
still too dead, so I needed a SECOND jump start :(

... and another time, with another bike... and car... I almost had a double 
whammy...

My wife and I have a NHX110 aka Honda Elite 110 scooter. I was sent to 
California for what was supposed to be 6 months on assignment for work. It 
ended up being 1 year. The Scooter was left in the garage back in Wisconsin. I 
had my car in California with me. It had the Optima Yellow Top AGM battery. I 
didn't end up driving my car for about 1-2 months before I left, so I needed to 
jump it and drive it around for a day or two before leaving to drive back to 
Wisconsin. Somewhere about Utah, I noticed a strange sulfur smell, but didn't 
think too much of it. Five days later, I rolled into the parking lot at my 
apartment. After walking around the apartment for a few minutes, I went to 
re-park my car. The battery was shot. I somehow managed a 2,000 mile trip only 
to have the battery die right after delivering me home. *Phew*  BUT I was still 
stranded by myself without a car (wife was still out of town); and I didn't 
have a charger. 
Luckily, I had the Scooter in the garage. I went over to the scooter, but was 
saddened by the fact that the key was in the ignition, and it was set to Seat 
which is how to pop open the storage under the seat. It had sat for an entire 
year off the charger like this... I crossed my fingers, twisted the key over to 
Start and pressed the Crank button. It fired to life! Wahoo!!

So then I was able to go and purchase a charger. I let it charge overnight, but 
the battery was still dead. So I scooted off and got a new battery.

Moral of this story - if you have a Yellow top or other similar battery, don't 
charge them too quickly. Charge them the way the manual states - slow and 
steady. Otherwise they will go bad and waste your $160 investment.

Oh fun!

 - James

On Mar 30, 2015, at 13:30 PM, mark.wf...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, so you have not done that at least half a dozen times yet? 
 How is that possible, you must not drive it to work several times a week 
 then. 
 That's why it's called the Kill my battery position.
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] I need your HELP...

[James O'Gorman]

Torque specs are always useful for the major items (tires, brakes, valve cover 
and heads...)


 On Mar 23, 2015, at 17:56, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
 
 Hey Nighthawk Lovers,
 
 I want to update my website and add maintenance information to each of the 
 pages covering the different Nighthawk models. So would you give me feedback.
 
 A LOT of Nighthawks are purchased with no owner's manual included and I know 
 that people Google their particular model to find out about changing oil, 
 tire pressure and other information. Here's what I want to know from you:
 
 What kind of information would be helpful. Here's what I have so far: (keep 
 in mind, this information will be model-specific)
 
 Oil capacity with new filter
 Front tire pressure
 Rear tire pressure
 Front tire size
 Rear tire size
 What else do people look for? I will add whatever you guys think is helpful. 
 
 At this point ALL I WANT is suggestion for information. I will send out 
 another email later asking for the SPECIFIC information from you on your bike.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Home security and automation

[James O'Gorman]

That is ptetty cool. I don't think that 14°F would work up here in
Wisconsin, though...

I've slowly been piecing a system together myself. There is a great program
called WebcamXP that does motion detection based on webcams or IP cameras,
and can trigger events such as text messages, emails, and other things.

Right now I'm using an arduino and a bunch of sensors to keep track of
things around my house. Currently I have sensors on all the exterior doors,
a flood sensor in the basement, and a level sensor in the sump pump. It can
text me when anything is out of ordinary. There is also a temp/humidity
sensor that sits outside. The sump and temp/humidity are graphed, and the
door status is shown below in the UI I put together.

[image: Inline image 1]

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Hanghank hangh...@new.rr.com wrote:

   Or this from Harbor Freight: hard wired, not wireless.


 http://www.harborfreight.com/8-channel-surveillance-dvr-with-4-cameras-and-mobile-monitoring-capabilities-61229.html


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  *From:* Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2014 5:06 PM
 *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Home security and automation

  Owners manual here:
 http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/61000-61999/61229.pdf


  Thanks, Bryan.  Costco has a 4 camera (in/out) setup.  Trying to decide
 to do that or something more connectable to the home automation. It seems,
 so far, that there is little benefit to getting them talking.  The kit is
 viewable online (phone/iPad) and includes a 1TB HDD.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Electrical stuff

[James O'Gorman]

I can't quite ohm in on it...

 On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:47, Phil bailey.phi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do you know what this is?
   ___ 
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  |__|  |
   / O   O / |
/ OΩO /   |  Ohm on the Range
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 On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:47:14 AM UTC-7, scottva...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Alright. Guys as I was tracking down recharging issues I started having 
 trouble with the starter. I opened it up and noticed that the brushes were 
 loose and not functioning properly, so I've ordered a rebuild kit. But my 
 question is if the starter is in bad condition would that affect the 
 charging system?
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carrying stuff on our motorcycles...

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Is he going somewhere to tune up his bike? Maybe amplify his exhaust?

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 19:16, jman2343 jman2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 H, doesn't look safe lol 
 
 On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 7:59:07 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
 We've shown some pretty wild stuff that people carry on their motorcycles, 
 and I can add this one to the mix that I actually saw myself.
 
 Took this picture at a stop light in Meridian, Idaho (suburb of Boise) while 
 out on a date with my wife. Can you see the guitar and amplifier lashed onto 
 this bike?
 
 
 ​
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Me my Electra Glide - circa 1980

[James O'Gorman]

That's cool. What are you holding?

 On May 22, 2014, at 21:25, 'Rmj' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
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 Thank you,
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Electrical problem

[James O'Gorman]

For the horn - what happens if you put 12 and ground directly to the contacts? 
If that doesn't make it go then the horn itself is bad.

 On May 20, 2014, at 15:29, Matthew Callender mcallend...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ohh and also my horn is not working, they all have to be related but I have 
 no idea how. Also I've checked the voltage on pretty much everything and it 
 all seems to be working correctly
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Getting a noise when accelerating

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It might be the cam chain. I'm not sure of a way to measure stretch on that 
chain while it is installed - you need to disassemble the engine to remove the 
chain, then measure it.

 On May 5, 2014, at 11:06, Gpro prostg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I cleaned and lubed the chain, and it seems ok. Everything's moving properly. 
 It seems to be coming from the clutch housing.
 
 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:42:22 AM UTC-7, Gpro wrote:
 Hi Peeps,
 
 I've noticed a ticking noise as I accelerate from a stop. It starts out very 
 slowly and speeds up as the bike speeds up until engine noise drowns it out. 
 I thought the chain might have picked something up at first, so I watched 
 the chain as the rear wheel rotated slowly, but saw nothing there. A friend 
 suggested that it might be a binding speedo cable. It doesn't seem to be 
 coming from there, but that should give a good idea as to the frequency of 
 the ticking. It's definitely too slow to be the crank or rods, and 
 especially the valve train. Is there anything in the transmission that could 
 be turning that slowly? My next move is to pull the drive sprocket cover to 
 see if anything is in there.
 
 Gary
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Backrest issue

[James O'Gorman]

Looking at that picture - is the cutout only noticeable with the taillight 
removed? Like of you removed the backrest later, would there be a big obvious 
hole?
I agree that I don't like cutting plastic if I don't have to, though.

 On May 5, 2014, at 16:49, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
 
 Hey Gang,
 
 I've been contemplating getting a backrest for my 1995 Nighthawk 750, and 
 FINDING one isn't really a problem. But it seems that every one that I find 
 requires a cutting of the rear cowl area to make it fit properly. (See 
 picture below.)
 
 Honestly I would rather NOT cut into the plastic if I can help it. Do any of 
 you other 750 owners know anything about this? 
 
 cut_Nighthawk.JPG
 ​​
 
  
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] clutch switch

[James O'Gorman]

It prevents the starter from turning while the bike is in gear.

 On May 4, 2014, at 16:06, Matthew Ward mastermech...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is the purpose of the clutch switch on the handle bar of my 83 cb550sc nh
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Working PDF for 1985 650sc

[James O'Gorman]

Me too. And an old tv :)

 On May 4, 2014, at 11:45, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Keep an old computer in the shop, they come in handy for looking stuff up.
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 These are nice.  But there's nothing like breaking open the book and throwing 
 a wrench across the pages to keep it open where you need it.  The screen 
 saver never kicks in, and my phone never gets greasy. :-)
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Paul 
 Date:05/04/2014 9:42 AM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: Nighthawk Lovers 
 Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Working PDF for 1985 650sc 
 
 Actually...I guess someone DID post some links.
 
 https://app.box.com/motorcyclemanuals
 
  
 Paul LeBoutillier 
 www.hondanighthawks.net
 Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group
 
 
 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:35 AM, peter martinez petermartinez1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey fellow nighthawk lovers i just bought a 1985 NH 650sc and was wondering 
 If anyone had a working link to a PDF or somewhere I might find a repair 
 manual my budget is already tight as it is and I'd rather put the money into 
 the bike And get her running in tip top shape. Any help or advice is much 
 appreciated thank you!
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] clutch switch

[James O'Gorman]

Not per-se... It is just a safety. Some Jeep guys (and even bikers as well) 
bypass the clutch safety so the can bump the vehicle forward with the 
starter. Don't recommend bypassing it, but it is possible.

 On May 4, 2014, at 20:01, Matthew Ward mastermech...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks so do I need it 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] I rode my neighbors GXSR1100 today

[James O'Gorman]

Nice job :)

 On Apr 26, 2014, at 17:24, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 About a month ago I helped him go through the carbs, and today we got a 
 chance to take it out. This bike has 4000 miles and is cherry. It had a bit 
 of a flat spot around 4K at first but after about 20 min of riding it cleared 
 up perfectly. I have to say that bike is seriously fast. But if you just putt 
 along on it you would never know the thing makes 160HP. Nice riding bike all 
 around. He was stoked as it has never run right since he's owned it, that's 
 why it's been sitting for so long.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Looking a bit better.

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I like the side car :)

 On Apr 4, 2014, at 16:42, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It has a very short one. ;-)
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 Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Looking a bit better.
 
 Allen, I'm sure I have a tail piece/rear fender that would fit. Wait, doesn't 
 that bike have a rear fender?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I shot some clear on the tank, stretched some vinyl over the seat, and sat 
 an old taillight on the fender.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hawks Unite :-)

[James O'Gorman]

Nice :)


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Peerle veerlepeer...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm, I like, looks very nice :)...


 On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:00:09 PM UTC+1, Rostjen wrote:

 My hawks  :-)

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] help...

[James O'Gorman]

Draining that should be considered routine maintenance.

 On Feb 18, 2014, at 18:50, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Usually the crank case vents to the airbox, there should be a drain under the 
 bike. Remove the plug to drain then reinstall the plug.
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 my new ninja is spurting out a oil/gas liquid through a tiny hole in the 
 airbox..
 looked in there and there is a lot more fluid in there...it only flows when 
 the bike is on..
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist photos

[James O'Gorman]

Not a motorcycle, but still a real work of genius:
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/fuo/4101149829.html

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1978 Honda CB750k

[James O'Gorman]

Wow Graham!
You need to come and hang out with me in Wisconsin :)

What products and methods do you use for cleaning dirty, stained pipes?

On Sep 15, 2013, at 18:30 PM, Graham Rogers wrote:

 Here's a pic of the engine and exhausts - gives you an idea of how it's 
 cleaning up,  Graham
 
 
 On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Allen Thomas wrote:
 
 Nice, those are collector's items. Where did the carbs get damaged? Usually 
 it should be only be in the bowl or float pins. Take a few pics, I'd like to 
 see it anyway.
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 About a week ago I got a call from a guy who asked if I was interested in a 
 1978 CB750k.  He said it hadn't run in 30 years.  Still I wanted to see it.  
 It was in a big garage, covered in dust, flat original tires with only 5800 
 miles on the odometer.  He said it had belonged to his brother who bought it 
 new, stopped riding it in 1983 and had died in 1996. It now belonged to his 
 widow who just wanted to get rid of it.  So I loaded it up and brought it 
 home.  The fuel tank was so rusted inside that the rust was up to the filler 
 hole and when I turned it upside down, a day later tar like stuff had 
 started oozing out.  At first I thought the engine had seized but after 
 bouncing up and down on the kick start a few times the bike turned over.  
 The carbs are totaled.  The same tar like fuel has eaten through some of the 
 aluminum.  I'm doing the best to salvage what I can however. They are 
 soaking in carb cleaner.
 The rest of the bike, once I started in with steel wool and chrome polish is 
 coming up really nice.  The engine aluminum paint is like new.  The seat is 
 like new, even the rims have come up like new.  Sorry no before pics and it 
 will be a little while before I will have the bike in picture ready shape. I 
 am in the hunt for carbs, tank and side cover emblems.  The original owner 
 removed the badges and painted the bike metallic gray. I will try and get it 
 back as much to original as possible, specially if it runs well,  Graham
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Wahoo! My first bike, a 1985 650sc.

[James O'Gorman]

Nice work!

I always thought the parking lot stuff was the hardest; riding on the roads at 
55 mph was really a no-brainer.
I did all the same stuff as well, practicing in an empty parking lot by my 
apartment. One thing I worked on that sounds similar to you was carefully 
finding the braking threshold for the front and rears - I would ride to like 10 
mph in a straight line, and see how hard I had to squeeze /just/ the front or 
/just/ the rear before it would lockup. Basically I found out that the front 
for my 83 650 I can squeeze the front as hard as i need to, but the rear will 
lock up pretty easily (which isn't very good). 

Doing each one individually helped me to understand how to balance the brakes 
throughout a braking cycle.

I would also do the parking lot stuff for a bit, then run around a few city 
streets and come back. Your brain needs time to rest and think about it.

 - JO


On Aug 13, 2013, at 21:12 PM, Erin Newkirk wrote:

 Hi All!
  
 Got my temps, insurance, tags today.  I practiced starting and stopping, 
 figure eights, turns, starting on hill (and because of stalling it multiple 
 times while learning to use the clutch, got a crash course in popping the 
 clutch).   I have two big things to keep working on, using both front and 
 back break and getting it to neutral on the first try.
  
 I plan to spend another day or two in the parking lot, then get on side roads 
 and figure out how to remember to use my turn signals, mirrors and interact 
 with traffic.
  
 Give me your top three things to get down right away to save my hide.
  
  
  
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] yamaha 1987 yx600 bobber

[James O'Gorman]

Gold valve covers?!?!?!

(I just got a little sick...)

On Jun 16, 2013, at 23:06 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 It's definitely clean and professional looking rather than the usual hack 
 job, but what's with the black and gold? Was this Trump's bike?
 
 -Kyle
 
 On Jun 16, 2013 9:17 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have to admit, from all the bobbers I have seen this one is probably the 
 best looking one. I could live without that particular seat, but the rest 
 looks like a pretty good job.
 
 http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/mcy/3846219171.html
 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] My email was hacked

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Sorry if you got an email with no subject and a link from me earlier
tonight. I wouldn't suggest opening it... I've updated my passwords.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Biker alleges Dallas Sheriff Deputy made up charge to seize video

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So I just watched both videos - the dash cam from that officer and the
biker's helmet cam. While I don't agree with how the officer handled the
situation, it was pretty nuts with everything else that was going on. When
he stopped the pickup with a bike a four girls in the bed, one of the girls
hands off a 'package' to one passing biker, then another passing biker lets
her hop on the back. Some of the other bikers were holding up the officer
on the highway, pulling in front of him and hitting the brakes; slowing
almost to a stop while their biker friends do wheelies  so bad juju all
around. Bad bikers, bad cops.

I can understand why the cop wanted the footage (his dashcam quality was
crap); I don't think he can just sieze it like that (1984 anyone?). Some of
the bikers deserve to lose their licenses, and that cop needs to learn to
deal with the stresses of the job before he cripples someone permanently.



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 Cops hate it when you videotape them (and their bad behavior).

 On Dec 18, 12:38 pm, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:
  This is both scary and funny. Scary because it shows these things (and
  worse) can happen. Funny because they got caught on camera, full HD... I
 am
  loving this new technology, and I hope one day all hetmes come with one
  incorporated.
 
  http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Sheriff-suspends-deputy-who-seized-bik...

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] changing brake fluid?

[James O'Gorman]

Yes, recommended on pretty much all vehicles every year or every other
year.

Brake fluid absorbs moisture as part of 'what it does' so that it doesn't
condense and sit in your lines. After a while, it will reach its saturation
point, and along the way, its boiling point decreases. the actual temps may
very, but it starts around something like 400+ degrees, and when it is old,
it will be in the low 200s before it boils.

230F isn't that hot for brakes, so it wouldn't take much to boil with some
'spirited' driving.

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 Should I bother if my brakes aren't acting funky? Figured why not probably
 has never been changed and couldn't hurt.. or can it? lol. Already bought a
 brake bleeder kit and brake fluid.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Backrest for a cb450sc

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Hang around here long enough and you'll notice a pattern - every time
someone says backrest then people start asking for pictures of the
brackets. I had to make my own for my 650. I took my bike apart a few days
after I put the backrest on, so I still haven't been able to take good pics
of them yet.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ahhh...
  In a word then - no - it shouldn't require welding -
 providing of course one can find the proper backrest. They were often
 a universal design that require shims and spacers to be installed. The
 Shims and spacers were different on each bike.
   A KG brand would probably do the trick - that was the brand
 of luggage rack I had on my 450.
   -Joey

 On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:01 PM, KimAnn kiman...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry, yes backrest for the passenger!
 
  On Aug 24, 3:54 pm, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Kim,
   Are we talking about a backrest for the passenger or the rider?
   -Joey
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:50 PM, KimAnn kiman...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all,
 
   I was just at my mechanics and he said in order to get a backrest on
   my bike it would have to be welded. Is this true. I have a 1986 Honda
   Nighthawk 450.
 
   Also, if a backrest does exist for that model, anybody have one for
   sale?
 
   Thanks!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cleaning grease

[James O'Gorman]

Thanks for the tip. My valve cover will go back on tonight. I took it off
and polished it while chasing down my oil leak (write-up and pics to come,
and also pics of the backrest mounts; I haven't forgotten...).
I used a miniature wire wheel while holding a vacuum right next to it to
clean the old gasket.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ross M. Jamison 
ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I am in the process of changing the valve cover gasket. So I'm cleaning
 the oil off, mainly the front of the engine. I bought this orange cleaner
 in a spray bottle at Wally World and it work great. Just spraying the
 grease made it come off. I will have to do some brushing to get the
 crevices. This stuff must be similar to Orange Blast, which I've used on
 dirty greasy engines with good success.

 Thank you,

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[Nighthawk Lovers] My wife's Motorcycle safety class

[James O'Gorman]

My wife is taking a Motorcycle safety class this week at a Harley
dealership near Milwaukee. It was funny when she came home after the first
night – she was complaining about how they spent 3 hours talking about the
safety gear.

About an hour later, she tells me that she wants to buy a full-face helmet
to replace the 3/4 one that she has now :)



She was also saying how the first night, they took a tour of the dealership
with a sales guy, and the second night a lady came in to talk to the class
about the products and services they offer there. One thing that is kinda
cool is that they are supposed to get some sort of gift certificate at the
end of the last class on Monday. We just might be able to find something
without an HD logo on it for a reasonable price. She’s looking for riding
glove right now...

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My wife's Motorcycle safety class

[James O'Gorman]

They provide the bikes. It'll be pretty funny if they have an old
(K)nighthawk :)
my class had a bunch of small old 'Hawks and the like.

I'll have her send me some pics or I'll swing by the range and scope out
what they have.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.comwrote:

 I know they used to, but now that the Blast is out of production...?

 Kurt
 On Aug 10, 2012 1:02 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think they use Buell Blast.
 Javier.

 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.comwrote:

 One question I've always had about those Harley courses: do they provide
 the bikes? Harley doesn't make a beginner size bike anymore...

 Kurt
 On Aug 10, 2012 12:56 PM, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife is taking a Motorcycle safety class this week at a Harley
 dealership near Milwaukee. It was funny when she came home after the first
 night – she was complaining about how they spent 3 hours talking about the
 safety gear.

 About an hour later, she tells me that she wants to buy a full-face
 helmet to replace the 3/4 one that she has now :)



 She was also saying how the first night, they took a tour of the
 dealership with a sales guy, and the second night a lady came in to talk to
 the class about the products and services they offer there. One thing that
 is kinda cool is that they are supposed to get some sort of gift
 certificate at the end of the last class on Monday. We just might be able
 to find something without an HD logo on it for a reasonable price. She’s
 looking for riding glove right now...

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Just what Kurt's FI Nighthawk needs!

[James O'Gorman]

And you could motorize the jaw to open and close!!!


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:

 That thing is so hideous it's kinda awesome. Definitely not for this bike,
 though.

 Kurt
 On Aug 9, 2012 4:15 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 A custom headlight!
 http://maine.craigslist.org/mcd/3194828256.html
  -Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Downsizing

[James O'Gorman]

If only it had pegs...


On Aug 5, 2012, at 15:11 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 Looks like the exhaust would cook your left foot.
 
 -Kyle 
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] rookie looking for suggestions

[James O'Gorman]

I'd say rod knock or exhaust leak.

Feel around really close to all the exhaust ports and see if you can feel a 
pulse of air coming out.

 -James O

On Aug 4, 2012, at 21:36 PM, Greg Holuban wrote:

 Did you put in new exhaust seals? Make sure they are tight.
 
 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:02:22 -0300
 Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: rookie looking for suggestions
 From: duchen...@gmail.com
 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 
 Just guessing (obviously) I'd say it's the top end not the bottom. A rod 
 knock would only make half as many noises as a top end issue.
 Dave
 
 On 3 August 2012 16:24, Ross M. Jamison ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Sounds like rod knock.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Ross M. Jamison
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Matthew Webb matthew.web...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here'a a much belated update:
  
 I started removing and dissasembling my engine (photos here) which turned out 
 to be a pretty big challenge without having much experience.  But it was tons 
 of fun and I learned a lot while struggling and cursing in my blazing hot 
 shed.  While I was doing this a used engine with 22k miles popped up on eBay 
 and just so happened to be located in my city so I scooped it up.  
  
 By some miracle, I manage to succesfully install the new engine, put all the 
 pieces together, and get the bike started!  I think I remember hearing a 
 slight noise from the engine but I was probably too estatic notice.  I took 
 the bike for a short test ride and at some point during the ride I noticed a 
 tapping noise coming from the engine.  So I'm not exactly sure when the noise 
 started.  Its possible the engine had been sitting for a while before I 
 bought it.  During the ride the bike seemed to perform 100% fine, aside from 
 the noise.  Back at home I took a video to capture the noise.
  
 I used a tube to listen to the engine and I think the noise is coming from 
 the back of the lower crankcase.  From the reading I've down it sounds like 
 that type of noise means a valve needs to be adjusted?  But the Clymer reads 
 the valves adjust themselves automatically?  So maybe a piston ring is off or 
 something?
  
 Can anyone watch the video and help ID the noise?  At this point I think my 
 best bet is to take it to a shop and have pros look at it.  Even if I have to 
 shell out an arm and a leg I just want to be on the road again.
  
 http://youtu.be/PurYX89KWzc
  
 Thanks!
  
 - Matt
  
  
 
 On Friday, April 20, 2012 10:44:30 PM UTC-4, Matthew Webb wrote:
 Hi my name is Matt.  I'm new to the group and I recently got my first bike, a 
 1992 CB750 with 3,800 miles for $1,800.  It was always garage kept and in 
 very good condition.
 
 I had had the bike for only about 2 months but had put almost 2,000 miles on 
 it already.  At the time I was getting home from work in the dark and the 
 cold and kept putting off my first bike maintenance until a weekend when I 
 could do some work in the daylight.  I made a big rookie mistake and ran my 
 bike dry and the engine locked up when I stopped at a traffic light.  The low 
 oil indicator light had turned on that morning but I was hurrying to a 
 meeting and thought I would be able to make it before things got serious. 
 
 I got my bike back to my house, and a few weeks later poured some oil over 
 the top of the engine, manually turned the engine, and then was able to get 
 it to start with no problem.  However, the engine didn't seem to respond 
 right.  So I looked into the top more and found some pretty serious scouring 
 on the exhaust camshafts, exhaust camshaft holders, and crankcase.  It also 
 looks like some of the rubber stuff on the defoaming chamber covers melted, 
 but I'm not sure.  The rest of the top end looked completely fine, even the 
 intake camshaft.  See pictures for details but be warned, they are 
 depressing.  
 
 I am worried that pieces of metal may have gotten into the bottom of the 
 engine and wrecked more havoc.  I'm also wondering if there may be more 
 damage than I've seen from when my engine locked up.  Does anyone know what 
 damage is typical when you run your engine dry? Is it likely the entire 
 engine will need to be replaced?
 
 I have searched past messages but have not found much.  Possibly because I 
 don't know what is best to search for.  I've done a lot of other reading so 
 far and have some ideas but wanted to run it by the group first.
 
 To me it looks like I have a few options:
 
 1) Sell the bike as is on CL for parts to someone who knows what they are 
 doing
 2) Purchase replacement parts for the damaged components and replace them.  
 With a quick search I have found these on ebay: cylinder head, another 
 cylinder head,camshafts.  I don't have much experience working with engines 
 but I do have a Clymer manual.  The camshafts and holders look easy to 
 replace but the body of the crankcase is also damaged where the camshafts 
 sit.  Would it be possible to have a shop re-machine 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Bought my first motorcycle, 1985 Nighthawk, 650.. and on my way home, Lost the Tool box lid :(

[James O'Gorman]

I'm thinking of spray-gluing tinfoil on the inside of my side covers and tool 
box cover. This way, hopefully I'll see them fall off, and if they do, I'll 
have a better chance of finding them on the side of the road...


On Jul 26, 2012, at 14:11 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 I do see those pop up on eBay from time to time.
 
 -Kyle 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM, John L jonathan.daniel.ly...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I even went back to where I thought I lost it... Found 5$, but not the lid :( 
 
 kind of upset about it..
 
 Wish they still made this part.. 
 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] $30 Carb Sync tool

[James O'Gorman]

There is often talk about carb syncing on the forum. 

I synched my carbs last week on my 83 650 using a UniSyn tool that I borrowed 
from a friend. It was REALLY easy. Really. This should not be a job that anyone 
is afraid of like I used to be.

I was using a tool like the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9ATBDVJ0044339nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordscm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

For $30, I think I'm going to pick one up even though I don't really need one 
anymore.

Its not set of Vacuum gauges like I was expecting, but the old-timer that let 
me borrow it told me he used to sync old Porches and Lamborghini's with it (and 
yes, he really did work on that type of car back in the day).

When you reassemble the bank of carbs, just do a baseline sync by looking 
through the carbs and adjusting the butterflies so you can see equal amounts of 
light under each one. Then get the bike back together and use the sync tool. 

On the downside, to use this you have to remove the boots on the intake of the 
carbs. This is more work than just plugging into the vacuum ports on the boots, 
but it does the trick.

 - James O'Gorman

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?

[James O'Gorman]

Just made a post about this, but here is a model better suited to our bikes (as 
opposed to cars)

http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/edelbrock-uni-syn-4027/?utm_source=googlepeplautm_medium=adwordutm_content=plagclid=CMTNrqe1u7ECFUS4KgodM3QAFA

On Jul 27, 2012, at 22:00 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 I live in the 4th largest city in the US and couldn't find a sync tool 
 locally. 8 had to order one off of amazon. Plenty of videos on YouTube about 
 how to use them.
 
 -Kyle
 
 On Jul 27, 2012 9:39 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well that would be way better than cracking it open. Any links to a decent 
 cheap 4 cyl vacuum gauge? Can't find one anywhere local...
 Or if I shop it, what would be a fair price range for getting it done?
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB550SC Nighthawk flooding

[James O'Gorman]

Any chance you've got the coil /or plug wires reversed on those two cylinders?


On Jul 26, 2012, at 21:29 PM, Graham Rogers wrote:

 I was afraid someone would send me back to the carbs!  Graham
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
 
 Floats stuck open? Did you put them in the right direction? Did you set the 
 fuel screws to a common value between all carbs. Sometimes people turn out 
 the screws to compensate for clogged jets. Stuck enrichening plungers? Try 
 starting it with the throttle opened to dry it out.
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
 
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 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB550SC Nighthawk flooding
 
 Here's one that's got me scratching my head.  I just started work on a 550 
 Nighthawk.  I cleaned the carbs before trying to run it although the PO had 
 it running and I was there with him.  Now with the carbs back on it runs on 
 1 and 4 but #'s 2  3 are just flooding.  The gas is going straight out the 
 mufflers.  Seems to have good spark on all 4.  The carbs were relatively 
 clean before I cleaned them.  Compression is excellent.  Bike has only done 
 11k miles.  I have the tank off and am running it through a funnel and hose 
 so it can't be the pet cock.  Any suggestions?  Graham
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Crazy Korean crossing the US on a Honda

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I only read the first two and the last two pages. I'll need to wait for snow to 
fly before I get to the other 350 pages...
But I'm curious - does he ever complain about a sore back?

:)


On Jul 23, 2012, at 21:52 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I have been reading this now. There _a_ _lot_ of pages, but it is really 
 good. The kid really had a great adventure. It makes me think that sometimes 
 we should all do this. Just take your bike and go. You need much money or 
 supplies. Just go. It is also cool to see how so many people in that forum 
 has helping him. It has to be true, you do meet the best people in a honda.
 
 Also, I think I want a damn ruckus now :-)
 
 Javier.
 
 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 So it's not a Nighthawk, it's a Ruckus, but it's still a really cool story. 
 I've been reading the thread for two days now, just skipping to the good 
 parts and I'm only about 1/3 through it. Basically this korean dude lied to 
 his parents about studying in Canadia, landed in the NW US, bought a ruckus, 
 a tent, and a can of chilli with beans and a loaf of bread and took off 
 across America posting to the Ruckus forum along the way. It's great reading 
 about his exploits and how the ruckus members all come out to help him along 
 the way. They should make a movie about his trip.
 
 http://totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41t=39030
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB550SC generator

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If it bolts up, the wiring could be adapted if different. I don't know if it 
would bolt up, though...

On Jul 21, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Graham Rogers wrote:

 Has anyone had personal experience interchanging the generator and voltage 
 regulator between a '83 550SC and a CB650SC (1983-85)?  A friend has a nice 
 550 Nighthawk but the system isn't charging.  550 generators are scarce but 
 the 650SC's are plentiful,  Graham
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] First time for everything

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I'm too scared of this happening with the hot exhaust right below the bike, so 
I always fill it by holding the handle and watching inside the tank.

Was everything okay? Any flames shoot up?

On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Paul wrote:

 After a short (25) mile ride this morning I stopped at our local Loves Truck 
 Stop to refuel, and the dumb gas nozzle failed to shut off when the tank was 
 full. Poop! In all my years of biking I've never had that happen.
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] PDF 550 650 Nighthawk Service Manual 1983 - 1985

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Can you send in a picture?

Start soaking with PB Blaster or some other type of penetrant (not WD-40) and 
go get yourself a screw extractor kit and impact driver.
manual impact driver (what I use):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ImpactDriverWithBits.png

what other people use
http://cordlessimpactdriverreviews.com/Reviews

 - James O


On Jul 20, 2012, at 23:04 PM, NighthawkEZ wrote:

 Hey there, wanted to thank you for posting the links and taking the time to 
 make this available.
 I have been looking for manuals online (free ones) but was unable to find 
 them.
 After a few weeks online and searching libraries, I was about to buy one and 
 then stumbled across this.
 
 Invaluable!! 
 
 Thanks
 
 I also have a question. I have a rusted screw that broke off in my 
 cylinder/valve case just below the top cover (where it connects to the 
 bottom). I am unable to grab the screw with any pliers. A friend of mine 
 suggested heating it with a gun and then using a reverse drill bit to take it 
 out. I started riding and it leaks, not terribly, but it definitely needs to 
 be fixed. Any suggestions?
 
 On Friday, November 4, 2011 1:49:12 AM UTC-5, Dadio wrote:
 I mentioned earlier that I have a digital version of the service 
 manual for 550/650 nighthawks. I published them to my box.net storage 
 location with a public access folder for downloading them in PDF 
 format: 
 1983 550 and 1983 - 1985 650 Nighthawk Service Manual, Clymers 
 1984 750 Nighthawk Service Manual, Clymers 
 1983 Nighthawk Owners Manual, Honda 
 About 40 to 80 Mb files. 
 
 http://www.box.net/motorcyclemanuals 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] I thought I had seen it all!

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Must be a big shop to allow 40,000 miles on the bike!


On Jul 20, 2012, at 23:00 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 Man, wow, I just, Why? As if wings don't block enough of the great outdoors 
 with the fairings and windshield and leg warmers and radio, and etc etc etc. 
 Now you put a convertible top on? Why not just take the Camry?
 
 -Kyle 
 
 
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 http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/3152743979.html 
 
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Buell Ulysses

[James O'Gorman]

Stiffer springs on the Buell?
Was it a one cylinder? 

On Jul 15, 2012, at 10:35 AM, zgotts wrote:

 Tried out a Buell yesterday. I really liked it, but my wife thought her 
 eyeballs were going to rattle out of their sockets. So... no Buell for me. 
 Shame, that thing really liked to be on one wheel. :)
 
 Most impressive of all to me was that when she hopped on the back, I couldnt 
 even tell she was there. This is an annoying problem for me on the NH, and 
 why I looked at the Buell in the first place... NH is great solo, but with a 
 passenger it becomes a much more difficult bike to handle. Especially at 
 slower speeds and coming to a stop. It seems kind of backwards that a heavier 
 bike would be easier. 
 
 Any ideas of why this is? I kind of suspect its due to a much better 
 suspension on the Buell. Maybe weight distribution? Rake/trail? Wider bars? 
 Just wondering if there's something I can do to the NH to make it more like 
 the Buell in that respect.
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Posted question from website - Nighthawk 550

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Sounds like alternator to me.
Can we get a readout of the voltages on the bike while turned off, and while 
running at about 2000 RPMs?
Perhaps the wires from the alternator aren't hooked up correctly.

On Jul 15, 2012, at 21:49 PM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 A mild short would cause that or dirty switches mebbe?
 
 -Kyle 
 
 
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 Hey everyone!
 
 The question below was posted from my website. Please share your thoughts.
 
 
 
 Paul LeBoutillier 
 www.hondanighthawks.net
 
 Paul,
 
 Can you or maybe some of your contacts help me? I have an 83 nighthawk 550 
 and have changed the battery, stator,regulator/rectifier and the battery 
 keeps going dead after 45 minutes of riding or when it just sits for a couple 
 of days. Any and all ideas are welcomed. I dont want to sell the bike because 
 I'm broke. What am I missing. According to all my measurements with an 
 electric meter everything is working correctly.
 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] How are things down under?

[James O'Gorman]

Hey Dennis,

We haven't heard much about how Ch-ch is doing since the hooligans shook up the 
ground last year. Have things settled down where you're at since the quake?

 - James O, WI, Earth

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Engine Squeak - Leaking Head Gasket?

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I just read the other posts.
Hopefully you can check the Tach cable, but to me it almost sounds like you've 
got a vacuum leak whistling. It sounds like one of the carb-to-head boots is 
missing the plug screw and is whistling.
Just throwing that idea into the mix.


On Jul 10, 2012, at 08:28 AM, Kevin Green wrote:

 It's definitely a squeak.  Here's a video so hopefully you can hear it over 
 the other noise of the motor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_p_miu9dSU
  
 I'm running Rotella T but I am due for an oil change.  I'll drain and strain 
 the oil and see whether anything comes up.
  
 I picked up a compression tester yesterday too but I think I need to try it 
 again tonight because my first result on the right cylinder was 110 psi and 
 120 on the left, but then I retested the right and got up to 150, but didn't 
 retest the left again, so I think I'm a newb on compression testing and need 
 to try it again for better results.  Anybody have tips for me on compression 
 testing?
 
 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:24 AM, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:
 What kind of oil are you using?
 
 Try draining the oil and refilling with Rotella T (the plain stuff,
 not the synthetic T5 or T6) and a new filter.  Retain the old oil,
 dilute some of it with gas and strain it thru a coffee filter, looking
 for minute shavings of metal or clutch plate material.
 
 If metal, there's an internal engine problem.  If clutch plate
 coating, it's clutch related and a Rotella refill may take care of it
 with no further action required.
 
 
 
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  So I've put almost 1500 miles on the bike in the last 4 months since I got
  it running (which included removing and reinstalling the head with all new
  gaskets), but as I was pulling up to my house a few days ago I noticed a
  squeaking sound coming from the motor.  When I started it back up this
  weekend it started squeaking immediately (cold engine) and it increases
  with the RPMs.  On my car I would say it sounds like an accessory belt
  squeaking, it's that kind of sound, but it's coming from inside the motor.
  I also opened the filler/dipstick with the motor running and air and oil
  came sputtering out at me, but I'm not sure that's not normal for a running
  engine like this.  I pulled the valve cover and adjusted the valves but
  they weren't very far out of adjustment, so I don't think that was it.  I
  checked the torque on my head bolts, and they are all to spec, but I
  noticed that the resistance in one of the bolts is all resistance in the
  thread and not pressure from the bolt on the head.  I'm wondering if
  there's not enough pressure on the head and that's the source of my
  leakage.  Anybody have any thoughts or suggestions?
 
  --
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Anyone got an 82 650 and need a wiring harness?

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Running is not the same as drive-able...
If the bike was wrecked, it may have pinched some of the wires... good luck
finding that short!

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe it was working but they decided to part it out anyway?
 Dunno...
-Joey

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  I always wonder about those. If the bike was running, why did they take
 the
  wiring harness out? If it was wrecked, why not say so?
 
  -Kyle
 
 
  On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/3049356275.html
   -Joey
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Anybody looking for a silver wing?

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Yup, Michigan has it's gems, that's for sure. A friend an myself went on a 
random road trip when we were in high school. We went to Climax and Hell in the 
same day. We skipped Pompeii, MI, and had plans to make it to Little Girl's 
Point, but never made it...


On May 18, 2012, at 09:03 AM, Jim wrote:

 I always enjoyed driving to Climax - Michigan.  And in the Upper
 Peninsula of Michigan there is Christmas, so it's always fun to pass
 the gas station that states last chance for gas til Christmas.
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of CL: Its from the FUTURE!

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I would think it has -7,000 miles since it is so new!

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 http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/3014706407.html

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] WOW

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Here's my take:

 - I love watching stunt riding. A good stunter is someone who has mastered the 
machine - throttle control, threshold breaking, fast reflexes, etc. All the 
skills necessary of a race driver.

 - These guys still suck at riding
 - Every one of these guys deserved to crash, and only some had proper gear. 
(aka morons)

ALSO - I really liked the /attempted/ stunt of the guy trying a full handstand 
on the handlebars. I've never seen that before, and it would be amazing to see 
this pulled off.

 - it made me laugh :)

 - JO

On Mar 29, 2012, at 06:31 AM, Joey Kelley wrote:

 There is a reason that it says 'do not try this at home' in those stunt 
 videos!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FoAUb-eF_cfeature=related
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '82 CB450SC project question(s)

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I've got a handheld impact driver kit similar to this:
http://www.tooltopia.com/lisle-29200.aspx?utm_source=googlebaseutm_medium=cseutm_term=LIS29200utm_campaign=googlebase_18ugclid=CMnd-OP5hK4CFRN3hwodVGe8Yw

that I used successfully to back out the bolts on my carbs without damaging any 
of them. They looked just like yours (aka hopeless).
Mine has an adapter that allows me to put in different bits, and when I'm 
really screwed, I use the impact driver with an EZ-out, with great success.
http://www.amazon.com/Eazypower-82681-Damaged-Screw-Removers/dp/B000HE9VZY/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8qid=1328380258sr=8-9

Because I can be cheap and lazy sometimes, that combo is now the correct size 
for the two long bolts that hold my starter together. Both the bolts are 
stripped out, and look even worse than the one in your pic below, but a few 
good taps and the screws back right out. I reverse the impact driver to 
reinstall the bolts.

 - JO

On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Kevin Green wrote:

 Thanks for the assurances that soaking should help.  I'm wishing I had picked 
 up an impact driver as recommended, but I don't know if it would have helped 
 me anyways.  I was trying to loosen the last screw holding on the top cover 
 and thought it had come loose but it looks like I stripped it instead.  Will 
 an impact driver still do me any good?  Should I just drill and use a screw 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '82 CB450SC project question(s)

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 - aka use /both/ an impact driver and a screw extractor. I never had hope in 
the extractors because they never worked for me until I put them at the end of 
the impact driver.

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 Thanks for the assurances that soaking should help.  I'm wishing I had picked 
 up an impact driver as recommended, but I don't know if it would have helped 
 me anyways.  I was trying to loosen the last screw holding on the top cover 
 and thought it had come loose but it looks like I stripped it instead.  Will 
 an impact driver still do me any good?  Should I just drill and use a screw 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sticking ignition

[James O'Gorman]

Don't they hit the new keys with a wire-wheel to 'soften' the edges?

The new key for my bike is kinda tough to use, but I've got the moves all 
figured out on how to make it turn :)


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 Can anyone tell me what would be good to use to free up a sticky ignition? 
 Even with a newly cut key, its hard to turn the key.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Craigslist add

[James O'Gorman]

I got my 83 650 from Detroit and it has been good so far :)

If I was in the area, I might go check it out. Central California is a bit far 
though... :(


On Jan 12, 2012, at 17:35 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:

 You should be able to get it for a song.
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 I may just call and go over and see this in person.
 
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 Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Craigslist add
 
 Poor abandoned 700S. It's missing the headlight, fairing, and at least the 
 right sidecover. This just might be one of the worst CL ad pics I've ever 
 seen.
 
 -Kyle 
 
 
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 http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/mcy/2795908938.html
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals

[James O'Gorman]

It sounds like you're shorting to ground via the splices that you made. I'd 
undo that and try to find dual element LED replacement bulbs.
Also, other users have reported having to use different flashers than stock 
since the LEDs draw less current than incandescent bulbs.

 - JO

On Dec 15, 2011, at 18:34 PM, matt wrote:

 i have a '95 nighthawk 750 and recently tried to replace my cracked
 turn signals with aftermarket LED lights. the rear went fine, the
 front are supposed to run and signal so there are two hot leads for
 the factory dual filament bulb but so i tried splicing them together
 and it worked for the right but after i hooked up the fourth and final
 they all stopped. they actually all turn off when signaling one
 direction and on in the other, but no blinking. is this a relay issue?
 what do i do?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] cb550sc

[James O'Gorman]

Welcome Steve!

Yup, there should be a fair amount of good info on the site, or on Paul's 
Nighthawk pages (Hondanighthawks.net).
I'm not strictly a purist, and I love to see custom bikes/cars/trucks, so have 
a great time, and POST SOME PICS :) :) :)

 - however... Being that that was a pretty rare model, you might consider 
something more common as the base - like an 83 650. You might be able to 
buy/sell/trade what you have to someone in need of those rare parts and get a 
new base to work on for a good price. We get a lot of people asking here for 
parts...

 - JO

On Dec 9, 2011, at 03:04 AM, steven hickman wrote:

 hi all new to this forum have purchased a nighthawk 550 which is at
 present being chopped to create a sort of bobber/cruiser just wanted
 to know if anyone had any usefull info on this bike its an 83 and
 heard that it only had a one year production run
 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Crash a while back at Orangeburg, SC dragway

[James O'Gorman]

Hey there gang,

For those who are interested, here's a writeup a friend of mine did after he 
flipped a Hayabusa upside-down in a drag race.
Cool pics, too!

*Disclaimer - no nighthawks in this article... sorry!*

http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=6921z=3

 - James O

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fw: [vfr-list] Bicycle vs Harley

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I'm lazy and didn't read the subject  :)
Good story 

On Dec 5, 2011, at 17:56 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I agree with Kyle, at the first line I knew what was going on, but the 
 reading is still very enjoyable. Thanks Allen!
 
 Javier.
 
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 I laughed, but to get most of the punch out of it you have to edit the 
 subject so they don't know it's a bicycle. :D
 
 Oh, and I ride a Trek. ;)
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 85 CB700SC Windshield Critique Requested

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it would be awesome for the right kind of custom bike. Don't think it would 
work on mine, though.
Good work!

On Nov 27, 2011, at 19:52 PM, David Davies wrote:

 When I bought my 85 CB700SC last spring, it was missing the windshield. 
 Having a curious nature, I wanted to see if I could make my own. It took some 
 work and several renditions. I ended up with something with a bit of a custom 
 flare that appealed to me but I am curious if it appeals to the core 
 Nighthawk lover. If you have the time take a peek and let me know what you 
 think.
 http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218ad=18173199cat=464
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

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That's awesome :)

On Nov 17, 2011, at 02:16 AM, Pat Patterson wrote:

 FWIW I used to wire my demo derby cars with an extra switch and solenoids so 
 that in the middle of a heat I could smack the hot motor/starter with 24v 
 with the flick of a switch. Cranks fast cranks hard... doesn't crank long 
 lol. 
 The problem with a bike is all the extra stuff that gets turned on with the 
 key. Thinking of my 450, the starter lug is exposed. You *Could* ground to 
 frame and then touch the hot cable to the starter lug directly. It would make 
 some cool sparks but it should start and get your but home. 
 
 At 08:45 PM 11/16/2011, you wrote:
 James:
 
 For some strange reason, I now have this mental image of some guy trying to 
 sneak a jump off an idling city bus... 
 
 :D
 
 -Kurt
 
 
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 I'm totally doing this next time I'm dead with only a 24v power source... :)

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

[James O'Gorman]

I would be interested to see the numbers once you have 8 tanks of premium.
Could you post them when you have them?

I've got the last 30,000 miles logged for my car and the biggest difference
was driving style, not octane.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1994 Nighthawk 250 Starting problems

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I'm totally doing this next time I'm dead with only a 24v power source... :)

On Nov 16, 2011, at 19:55 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:

 I haven't jumped a bike with 24v (yet), but I did jump a car that way. I just 
 unhooked the feed wire from the starter then clamped directly to the stud and 
 the engine ground strap, then used the car's 12v to trigger the solenoid as 
 normal. Only had a 24v system to jump from, no roll starting ability (stupid 
 automatics), and I had an adjustable wrench. Took me all of five minutes, no 
 starter damage, and that was that.
 
 Just saying if all you have available to jump from is 24v, it isn't the end 
 of the world. I may at some point have to do it, I too work for a bus company 
 and all we have are 24v jump boxes. 
 
 Kurt
 
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 How could you ONLY give the starter 24 volts? You would have to jumper it 
 separately from the rest of the wiring harness. I can't see why anyone would 
 want to do that anyway. If your starter is so shot that a 12V system can't 
 spin it then you just need to rebuild the thing. Or get proficient at push 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Texting and driving

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As if the Russian roads aren't bad enough with the crazy car drivers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhE8laMwEEfeature=related

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] shipping from PA to Atlanta GA

[James O'Gorman]

Road trip!
I would do it if I was anywhere close...

On Nov 11, 2011, at 05:45 AM, Graham Rogers wrote:

 Anyone interested in shipping a 1982 Kawasaki 550LTD (in showroom condition) 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New pdf Manual posted - 1983 650 Nighthawk Factory Shop Manual

[James O'Gorman]

I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to give you money for that... but if we just 
decide to throw you a few bucks cause you're awesome or cause you lent us a few 
buck back at Daytona bike week (remember?) then it would be okay...

On Nov 11, 2011, at 19:24 PM, Dadio wrote:

 Just in time for that weekend engine rebuild...
 
 Have added another pdf SHOP MANUAL to my share site.
 
 Purchased a used 1983 Nighthawk CB650SC Honda Shop Manual (Factory
 Manual). Given the consistency of the 650 from 1983 to 1985, may be
 used for those years too, and likely would be generally acccurate on
 the 1983 550.
 
 Has been scanned and uploaded in a screen view resolution. 308 full
 size page scan job made for a file too large to post at printing
 resolution. Got it down to 19Mb for online viewing.
 
 http://www.box.net/motorcyclemanuals
 
 
 Mark
 
 P.S. Anyone feeling so inclined to donate a $1 to help cover the cost
 of buying this manual ($25) may do so via PayPal -- my account of
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[Nighthawk Lovers] too quiet...

[James O'Gorman]

Too quiet on the forum today, so I'll *bump* this thread to the top.
I'd have to assume that Seasonal Affective Disorder has taken over all the 
bikers... :(

Anyone get snowed on today? 
Here in the Central Valley of California it only snows once every ten years.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Posting to Nighthawk Lovers

[James O'Gorman]

We will allow it.
What kind of bikes have you had?

On Nov 8, 2011, at 13:25 PM, surfswab wrote:

 Welcome Jason.
 
 C'mon in, pull up a chair, grab a beverage and tell us everything you
 know.
 
 On Nov 7, 8:35 pm, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote:
 My name is Jason King I am friends with members Allen Thomas and Javier
 Garcia on the forum and would like to be able to post to help others out.
 
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