[No Thirst Software] Re: Allocate money from one Paycheck to multiple accounts?

2008-09-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
I think that Patrick's suggestion is the right idea whether it's scheduled or just entered as a normal transaction--in other words, your single paycheck would be represented by three deposits in MoneyWell, one into each of your accounts (or four accounts if you intend to track your 401K

[No Thirst Software] Re: Requested Feature - Handling Loans

2008-11-16 Thread The Watkinson Family
Ken, With my loans, this how I work the process: 1. Transfer a payment from a checking account to the loan account (the amount of this payment includes both the principal, interest, plus any management fees). 2. Split the transfer, ensuring that the Interest and Management Fees are not set

[No Thirst Software] Re: Car Loan

2008-12-22 Thread The Watkinson Family
Hi, Mark, I take a different approach to loans than the others that have responded. I like that MoneyWell helps me spend only the money that I have by allocating it to specific purposes. However, as your example demonstrates, finance software should do more than that. I refuse to keep

[No Thirst Software] Re: Money Left to Allocate does not match money in account after credit transfer

2009-01-02 Thread The Watkinson Family
Jaysen, Yes, you would split the amount paid to the credit card. You wouldn't two write two checks (you could, but there is no need to). One part of the split would be assigned to Debt Repayment, and the other part would not be assigned. The trick would be to figure out what's Debt

[No Thirst Software] Re: New user questions feedback :-)

2009-01-02 Thread The Watkinson Family
Daren, Last (for now), I couldn't figure out how to set an initial balance for my Cash Account. Do I just enter a transaction labeled Initial Balance without a transfer, or ... ? To enter your initial balance for your cash account, just change the starting balance for the account. The

[No Thirst Software] Re: please explain amount vs total

2009-01-22 Thread The Watkinson Family
Ciara, I thought I'd add an alternative explanation that may maximize your use of MoneyWell's split transaction feature. When you create a split, in the split detail area, called Split Transaction on the MoneyWell panel, and you've referred to as transaction screen, Kevin is explaining

[No Thirst Software] Re: Cash Flow tracking start date changing behind my back

2009-01-23 Thread The Watkinson Family
Chris, Actually, the amount is optional but the cash flow start date is always attached to a bucket. This will be taken care of in the 1.4.3 patch so it should be a non-issue. Most people will need to use this amount entry. The two main exceptions are: 1. Your starting balance is also

[No Thirst Software] Split Data Entry Change Request

2009-01-24 Thread The Watkinson Family
Kevin, When entering a split, after selecting Create Split the first active field is still the amount field for the Split Transaction detail. If you change this amount, but no bucket has been assigned to the transaction, yet, the effort is lost because the data is reset and the active

[No Thirst Software] Re: how to deposit 'cash'

2009-01-25 Thread The Watkinson Family
Mary Lou, When you use a split for a cash transaction, don't use the checkbox. From what I understand, the checkbox is a shortcut to allow you transfer money from one account to cash. One common application would be an ATM withdrawal. I so rarely have cash only transactions, that I

[No Thirst Software] Re: how to deposit 'cash'

2009-01-25 Thread The Watkinson Family
Mary Lou, Your use of your money may dictate whether or not you have a separate cash account. For me, a very small number of my transactions are for cash, but enough to merit a separate cash account. If you are withdrawing money (say $40) from a checking account for cash, and then

[No Thirst Software] Re: deposits don't count as money allocated?

2009-01-26 Thread The Watkinson Family
Hi, Tanja, See my comments below... Hello, I got paid again (yay ;) ) so I went to allocate money and it went very nice and smooth. I do have a question, to clear something up that I think does not work as I expected. A little background info that may or may not clear things up: I get

[No Thirst Software] Re: deposits don't count as money allocated?

2009-01-27 Thread The Watkinson Family
Tanja, ps. I have noticed that when I press ⌘-= to show future pending transactions, the amount in my bucket changes to what it would be on the last day of the month taking all those pending transactions in account (only for the current month though). Should it work like this? I very much

[No Thirst Software] Re: Treatment of savings

2009-01-27 Thread The Watkinson Family
Hi, Holly! I like to transfer $100 a month from a Checking Account to a Money Market Account. I have set this up in my Spending Plan and allocated the income accordingly. When the automatic transfer is initiated by my bank I record it in the Savings Bucket. Next I record the transfer

[No Thirst Software] Re: Bucket Detail Report

2009-02-01 Thread The Watkinson Family
Excellent! Thank you. On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Kevin Hoctor wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:07 PM, The Watkinson Family wrote: What's the purpose of the MoneyWell Bucket Summary? It looks like it just reports the transactions for the selected buckets in the selected accounts

[No Thirst Software] Re: A few more questions

2009-02-03 Thread The Watkinson Family
Hello! I thought I'd offer a response since no one else has... I've been teaching a financial class over the last few weeks, and one of the important lessons I've learned is that there is no perfect month. Every month is different, with different priorities, challenges and expenses.

[No Thirst Software] Re: A few more questions

2009-02-04 Thread The Watkinson Family
the heck out of me... Maybe revisiting this down the road would be best for me. On Feb 4, 7:51 pm, The Watkinson Family thewatkins...@mac.com wrote: Hello! I thought I'd offer a response since no one else has... I've been teaching a financial class over the last few weeks, and one

[No Thirst Software] Re: Running Balances in Register View

2009-02-06 Thread The Watkinson Family
Hi Mark! In reality, all I want to see is how a big payment will affect my balance, and if I need to move money from my savings, as my checking account pays no interest. The way that you want to use MoneyWell is exactly how I've been using it, which is only slightly different from how the

[No Thirst Software] Re: Unassigned to Assigned Transactions not going away

2009-02-22 Thread The Watkinson Family
hey, i resemble that comment! ;) It seems to me to be a great way to see what transactions I haven't assigned to a bucket (this is after downloading new transactions that need to be assigned) Not sure I understand what you mean by flip around too much, but it seems to be a good way to

[No Thirst Software] Re: Two people using Moneywell.

2009-03-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
Fred, While I haven't tried this with a recent version, the following was true for the 1.4 version. If you do try to open the document when it is already open on another computer, the document is corrupted, and you'll have to roll back to a previous back-up, so it is very important that

[No Thirst Software] Re: split transaction w/ cash

2009-03-21 Thread The Watkinson Family
I think that you may have misunderstood... Creating the deposit transaction as Kevin suggested isn't a fake transaction. You said that your original purchase was on the debit card. I'll assume that you spent $200 on the 10th of the months and were eventually credited back $57.75 on the

[No Thirst Software] Re: Newbie Question: Input on Payday

2009-03-22 Thread The Watkinson Family
Scott, Masochism or not, it's been important to me track all my expenses, deductions, and allotments. For this reason, I track all of these with MoneyWell. Here's how I do it. I have a monthly income, that although is a single deposit, it has several sources and different parts are taxed

[No Thirst Software] Re: Should paychecks be assigned buckets?

2009-03-25 Thread The Watkinson Family
Tony, I wouldn't recommend having unassigned transactions, though if you use it for income it won't create anything other than an accounting problem. Imagine the following envelope scenario. When you receive your paycheck, you divide all of your money between envelopes. When you don't

[No Thirst Software] Re: Bucket balance is greater than Account balance

2009-03-27 Thread The Watkinson Family
Kevin and Daniel, One thing that I didn't like about the export and import is that the export and import functions aren't fully reversible (at least not when I did this a few months ago since Jan 1). It may be pretty obscure, but I had been using Alt + Enter in order to use multiple lines

[No Thirst Software] Re: Income Allocation Question (Redux)

2009-04-02 Thread The Watkinson Family
Kevin, Is there a way then to do manual money flows without throwing out the allocate income feature? Has the behavior always been like this? I hadn't noticed it before, but since I'm taking a more proactive approach to our money (budget changes each month based on circumstances, etc),

[No Thirst Software] Re: Starting cash flow balance when you have credit cards you pay in full every month

2009-04-04 Thread The Watkinson Family
n my case, I actually need to include the credit card balances in my starting cash flow balance. This effectively negates part of my checking account as those funds are reserved for future credit card payments and should not be available for spending. In addition, when I download my

[No Thirst Software] Re: Usage model and meaning of Open/Cleared/Reconciled/Pending status?

2009-04-04 Thread The Watkinson Family
Here's a simplified example to clarify what I'm talking about: - I deposit a $1000 bonus check into my checking account, but mark it as bucket optional so it doesn't affect my cash flow (and artificially inflate my income graphs) - At this point my checking account balance is larger than my

[No Thirst Software] Re: Stupid Question: Bucket Balance vs. Balance

2009-04-16 Thread The Watkinson Family
If all transactions have been assigned to buckets, if you do not have any transfers (transfers require special consideration), and you do not have any Future Pending transactions, then the problem must be with your cash flow. You can add up all the money that you had in your buckets vs

[No Thirst Software] Re: Stupid Question: Bucket Balance vs. Balance

2009-04-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
What else is tripping people up? I suppose it could be a variety of things. I, for instance, want to use only one financial application. While MoneyWell is intended to control cash flow, I also want to track non-cash flow accounts, such as loans, debts, and investments. I'll use the

[No Thirst Software] Re: Stupid Question: Bucket Balance vs. Balance

2009-04-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
Danno, I think that there is a mathematical relationship--it's just not enforced by the software. With several steps you could verify that your document is mathematically sound. In that sense, I think that the software and your document should be trustworthy. I'd be happy to enumerate

[No Thirst Software] Re: Stupid Question: Bucket Balance vs. Balance

2009-04-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
into a black hole. By not accounting for my savings, I am taking on the risk of losing some of my savings without intending to, which I realize is not for everyone. This is an automatic compensation for errors, however, and I'm making the risky assumption that screw-ups are

[No Thirst Software] Re: How can I easily see my current net worth?

2009-04-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
Ben, You've got the steps down correctly. Currently there is not a quicker way. Kevin has promised better tools for net worth calculations in future iterations. Also, this is something that could probably be calculated using smart buckets when MoneyWell's smart bucket functionality is

[No Thirst Software] Re: Stupid Question: Bucket Balance vs. Balance

2009-04-18 Thread The Watkinson Family
a $0 smart bucket total -- this method won't detect errors in initial setup, but it should detect accrued errors since the initial cash flow was established. At least, I think i should. Blair On Apr 18, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Lance wrote: On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, The Watkinson Family thewatkins

[No Thirst Software] Re: Stupid Question: Bucket Balance vs. Balance

2009-04-20 Thread The Watkinson Family
completely automate the process of ensuring the document is in balance, but it would eliminate several steps. Blair On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Lance wrote: On Apr 18, 10:57 pm, The Watkinson Family thewatkins...@mac.com wrote: Lance, Would it need to be anything more complicated than

[No Thirst Software] Re: Bucket Question (How do you do it?)

2009-05-13 Thread The Watkinson Family
So here's my question. If you have one Home category which includes regularly occurring expenses (such as lawn care, cleaning, etc) how do you account for one-time unexpected expenses such as fix-the-roof? Do you over allocate money to the home bucket for just-in-case things, or just pour

[No Thirst Software] Re: Optimal savings setup

2009-05-15 Thread The Watkinson Family
Looks good to me The crux of your setup lies in the fact that you have multiple savings accounts, each intended for a specific purpose. Furthermore, it appears that you treat all of your Savings accounts as omitted accounts. In other words, money that is in these savings accounts

[No Thirst Software] Re: Allocating Income, I had to do 12 times

2009-06-09 Thread The Watkinson Family
Michael, If I understand you correctly, I think that you would want to set the allocation for 1st Half. This will ensure that when you want to allocate on the 1st of the month, all your money will be allocated in the 1st half (which is the half that you're in on the 1st of the month).

[No Thirst Software] Re: Money left in account, but no cash available for flowing?

2009-06-09 Thread The Watkinson Family
, 13:13, The Watkinson Family thewatkins...@mac.com wrote: There must be something else going on here Adding money to a savings expense bucket has the same net effect as adding money to an income bucket. Look at this way... I could unspend Savings and put the money back into the Savings

[No Thirst Software] Re: Buckets track all accounts, or just checking account?

2009-06-09 Thread The Watkinson Family
Daniel, You would select which accounts to use for buckets based on their type. Those accounts that provide money to you to spend on a monthly basis should be included in the bucket system. These accounts would include: Checking accounts Cash accounts As far as credit cards are

[No Thirst Software] Re: Credit Card Buckets for Finance Charges???

2009-06-10 Thread The Watkinson Family
For me, it depends on my primary card that I use for almost all my purchases and pay off every month, if I get an interest charge (because of a cash advance or a late payment), I assign the interest charge to a bucket. However, for loan accounts and credit cards I'm paying off over