agan pairing of Elsie
Marley and My Laddie Sits Ower Late Up.
[4]http://soundcloud.com/edric-ellis/elsie-marley-my-laddie-sits
John Dally:
I hope I'm not the only one who wrestled with this tune for a long
while. Some day, I'm confident I'll get a setting of &qu
Ian Lawther has chosen THE MORPETH RANT for April's Tune of the Month.
There are lots different settings out there. Matt Seattle published a
book on the tune. It may be the first tune we've had in D, and it may
be the tune with the most key work we've had so far. It is a melody
fi
m a Bell" selected by Julia
Say
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:33 PM, John
Dally <[1][5]dir...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dixon's tunes as transcribed in THE MASTER PIPER are in A
mixolydian
and the NSpiper has to take into account that there is more
invol
t very easily on the NSP
chanter regardless of which key you play them in.
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Matt Seattle
<[1]theborderpi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:21 PM, John Dally <[1][2]dir...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Of course, you co
Many thanks to Julia Say for selecting a classic tune for March.
Julia writes:
William Dixon's "Adam a Bell" and its tune family - through the Peacock
"My Dearie sits ower late up" (and the similar but not identical one
in Clough).
If any new players find these too intimidati
[1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Northumbrian-Smallpipes-/120858672456?pt=UK_
Woodwind_Instruments&hash=item1c23bcfd48
Can anyone identify the maker?
I am not associated with the sale or interested in bidding on them.
Just curious.
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Great choice. Thanks Anthony.
On 2/1/12, Anthony Robb wrote:
>Hello All,
>
> John Dally has kindly invited me to choose the TOTM for February and it is:
>
>The Keelman Ower Land
>This tune has been a favourite since 1973 when (according to Johnny
>Handle)
[1]http://soundcloud.com/john-dally/herd-on-the-hill-highland
There's the link to my offering for "Highland Laddie". It's the Clough
three part tune paired with Tom Clough's "The Herd on the Hill." I
tried a new recording technique, and I think
Here is a message from Chris Ormston, who has graciously agreed to make
the selection this month:
John has asked me to select the theme for January's TOTM. In keeping
with previous months, I've chosen something to appeal to both
Northumberland pipers and Border pipers (though I'm
We have something exciting planned for January Tune of the Month.
Check this space for BIG news in the near future.
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Sorry for the bungled url on my end. This should work.
http://soundcloud.com/john-dally/winter-wren-christimass-day-in
all the best,
John
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From: John Dally
Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Subject: December TOTM
To: NSP group
Here's my Dec
Here's my December TOTM offering:
http://soundcloud.com/you/tracks
Hope you enjoy it.
cheers,
John
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How would the group feel if we changed the present tune/topic/theme
selection process? There must be better ways to make the choice so
that more pipers will want to participate and, equally important,
there will be more useful discussion about the selection. Pete
Stewart has been very helpful in
Some sort of euro-pipe, very expensive for what it is, but not what
the seller claims it is: ebay item #170741342181.
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The Tune of the Month for December is, as discussed, some version of
"Christenmass Day in the Morning" and another tune (or two, or how
many you want). As always, please post a link so we can enjoy your
music. Thanks to everyone who has participated so far.
:D
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The obvious topic is tunes with a reference to the season (winter,
soltice, Christmas, Hogmany, New Year). I suggest we pick a tune we
all want to play and then combine it with one or more other tunes, as
suggested by Barry Say. The primary tune would be one we all agree on,
and the secondary tunes
This is a follow up to the October TOTM. Here are three triple
hornpipes played on a SSP, chanter by Mike Sharp, drones by Addison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxDelZc71YA
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There was one suggestion for "Felton Lonen" and one suggestion for
tunes in the 9/8 time signature, so I decided to compromise with tunes
in the 6/8 time signature. That's a very open catagory, including
variation sets, slow airs, marches, and jigs. You can perform "Felton
Lonen" if you want.
th
Yesterday at the Pacific Northwest Northumbrian smallpipers' monthly
session Peter Dyson of Bellingham, Washington, and Michael Korchonnoff
of Graham very kindly allowed me to record them on my Flip camera. Two
performances here, one a duet and the other a solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dslo
Here is a set of three hornpipes for October: The Glen Aln, The
Marquis of Lorne, The Redesdale:
http://soundcloud.com/john-dally/hornpipes-glen-aln-marquis-of
I hope you find these enjoyable.
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Here is a fine example of hornpiping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3iIKGFISE
The question has come up, is a hornpipe a style or a type? My answer
is, yes. This isn't a competition, so please feel free to explore
definitions rather strain to fit inside them.
cheers,
John
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For the October Tune of the Month is to play a hornpipe, or two, of
your choosing. This broad catagory should have something for
everyone.
Please post links to your uploads in the NSP news group and on the forum:
http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=288
Of course
This a formal request for suggestions for the October TOTM. The more
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Well, here are my offerings for September. Lots of fumbling, but this
is just for fun, right?
Northumbrian smallpipes, "Cuddy Claw'd Her" Peacock's setting
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJvjrOChQXo
Scottish smallpipes, "Cuddy Claw'd Her" Dixon's setting
[2]http://www.
Ever had one of those moments when you realize you've been working in
the wrong direction all along? I've been working hard so that my
piping would NOT suck.
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wrote:
On 9 Sep 2011, Francis Wood wrote:
Just in case you're not watching the forum at
[1]www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk, Chris put a video up on youtube for
the September TOTM.
[2]http://www.youtube.com/user/chrisormston#p/a/u/0/1d0Y3_JEe4c
Needless to say, it's fantastic. He makes it look so easy!
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t=directlink)
Cheers,
Edric.
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> Of John Dally
Here's my video for August:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOl3AcxG_R8
If you've never seen a Peacock in flight, here's your chance.
I hope you enjoy it.
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lso
of the enigmatic Reavely ms., presumed to be roughly contemporary
with
Peacock. The very lightly 'unadapted' version is in the current
edition
of the 'little yellow book'.
And yes I'm working on all the tunes but don't have a ca
The consensus for September's TOTM is Peacock, specifically "Cuddy
Claw'd Her".
This tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes (which I
think should be called the Northumbrian twice as long pipes), as well
as the Northumbrian smallpipes.
Remember, you can post any mon
How about some suggestions for September's TOTM? Rather than specific
tunes, perhaps we could choose one of several catagories:
Peacock tunes
NPS Book 1
Billy Pigg
Tom Clough
[1]http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/posting.php?mode=po
st&f=20
It's ne
OY!
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Ian Lawther <[1]irlawt...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I enjoyed that far more than I expected to!
I'm now listening to other tracks and can see myself working through
the whole jukebox as the day goes on. Over the years I've heard a
lot of
Here's my Lowland version of the tune played on my Border pipes:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWbMbbuqja0
With permission I'm posting Pete Stewart's video:
[2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K85_c3qL ... er&list=UL
I very much like the rhythm Pete gets out of the tune.
Northum
Being a drone musician Peacock might have had an insight into the
tonality of the tune. The first impulse is to think he just wanted to
fit it on the keyless chanter. It's in Em (the relative minor of
G). Ending on an A, the tune is usually said to be in Am which, which,
as Barry
Thanks to everyone who voted. The tune of the month for August is "the
peacock followed the hen."
I didn't find a video on youtube of a NSPiper playing this tune, which
means we will remedy a sore deficiency on youtube. There is this
video, however:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/wat
TOTM is a voluntary opportunity for pipers in the Northumbrian
traditions to share their music in a friendly and non-competitive way
by making recordings of themselves playing tunes that are chosen by the
group and then putting them up on the internet, usually via youtube.
If you wis
Please vote for TOTM for August, even if you don't plan on posting a
video or recording of your own. There's a dead heat right now, so we
need a few more people to express their opinions before the weekend is
over. I know opinions are rarely expressed in the newsgroup, but go
ahead
Here's another take on the July TOTM, this time on Border pipes in G.
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w56aQ3sMcXs
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Exactly my thoughts, John.
I thought perhaps "Herd" would seduce a few Knights Clough to join in.
"Peacock" is in 9/8, a rhythm we don't talk about very much. "Speed"
is a tune with many versions, my favorite being Joe Hutton's on the
Smithonian disc. And "Salmon Tails" is a tune
Here are a few suggestions for August's tune of the month:
"Herd on the Hill"
"Peacock Followed the Hen"
"Speed the Plough"
"Salmon Tails up the Water"
Preferences? There's no way to conduct a poll on this forum, so post
your comments. If no concensus is reached, then I'll ju
As just a side bar to this duscussion of ranting: an interesting thing
happened to me yesterday. I was at the Skagit Valley Highland Games to
participate in a SSP and Border pipe "talent show" for lack of a better
term. Kat Eggleston and I played a set of Lowland tunes in a guitar/BP
Thanks for posting, Edric. Your blowing is very steady and your pipes
sound great to me. Intonation--I too discovered that recording
yourself really shows up intonation--I must work on that.
cheers,
John
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Edric Ellis
<[1]edric.el...@mathwork
As we say in the local venacular, garsh. Thanks for the kind words,
Anthony, but I feel I'm still just approaching the rant rhythm. The
first two bars of Hesleyside are easier, as you pointed out, to play
even. I'm still working on that phrase and probably will for the
duration.
Here's my offering for the TOTM.
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK5xTxCFvOY
I played these tunes in what I hope is a rant rhythm.
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Beautiful! Thanks!
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Anthony Robb <[1]anth...@robbpipes.com>
wrote:
Hello Folks
OK shoot me down in flames - a bit hesitant at times but just as I
was
going to try it again a neighbour's noisy lawn mower meant I
couldn't.
y slower is constructive at least - but as
for praise,
' Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. '
Thumper said much the same...
John
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Even though I think all the comments on the youtube videos that I
volunteered to go over the top in the first wave are all correct and
useful, I had hoped the spirit of the thing would be more encouraging.
I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing videos from all those who
have chime
"Felton Lonnin" was suggested as tune of the month for June. I forget
who suggested it. I didn't make a video due to an extremely busy
travel schedule over the last six weeks, but I hope to get something up
on youtube by Thursday--tomorrow. If not then, then sometime soon, I
hope.
We had a great "Junuary" session yesterday here in the Pacific
Northwest. We had two sessions going at one point with G pipes and
concertina in one room, and F sets in the other. Although only one or
two of the group (not me) can play popping fast runs like Chris,
Adrian and Alice,
Robbie Greensit, wasn't it?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM, <[1]barr...@nspipes.co.uk> wrote:
Quoting [2]smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk:
Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator
to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the
ent as "elitism" because a couple of the best plpers are trying to make
> people understand how to play their instrument properly.
>
> I'll stop now before I anger too many friends!
>
> best wishes,
> Rick Damon
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, John D
I don't understand the rift between the proper pipers and the NPS. Don't they
owe much of their fame to winning and judging competitions there? Doesn't the
NPS publish and sell their books? I'm sorry to see fractious elitism born
again. I thought we had gone beyond that a couple of years ago
Would it be possible to have a forum on the "pipersfourm" dedicated to
TOTM? There might only be two of us interested in it, in which case it
might as well stay here--no need to make more work for Julia. I hoped
that pipers like Inky would participate so that they can show us what
Hopefully the new forum has spell-check as well. ;-)
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Inky- Adrian
<[1]inkyadr...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Dear all ,
If you
don't like it, lump it. I'm buggering of to a more pleasant forum
where we have intelligentcia.
This is beginning to look like a circular firing squad. ;-)
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Francis Wood
<[1]oatenp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Matthew Boris wrote:
> I'm sensing a "Judean Peoples' Front" vs. "Peoples' Front of Judea"
> schism here
know by posting a link here.
All the best,
John Dally
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Anyway, if this seems like an interesting idea to enough people perhaps
we could name a "tune of the month" for June by this coming weekend.
cheers,
John Dally
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Going where angels fear to tread
I know Inky is defending the one true faith and all that, which I
respect, but when one falls back onto technique as the ultimate while
seeming to not hear amazing technique (even if one doesn't agree
philosophically with all of it) one's argumen
Here's an example of what you're talking about: Chris Evans using a
drinking straw to extend his D drone to C.
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaYiveqihsc&feature=mfu_in_order&list
=UL
I wish Chris would put a few more videos up on youtube. Nigel made him
a lovely set of pipe
I'm looking to buy a G chanter. Does anyone have one they would like
to sell?
thanks,
John
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Curious about the keys on this chanter.
Chanter Keys (10 - A, B, C, d, e, f, g, G#, a, A#, b, c, Cnat, d, E, F, G, A)
If transposed to an F chanter that would be D E F# g a b c C# d D# e
f# Fnat g A B C D. That is an unusual selection isn't it?
Thanks for posting, Julia, but I don't think I'll be
an
>
>
>
> Richard York wrote:
>>
>> Forgive me, but methinks that's a rather unhelpful response to a
>> reasonable if admittedly diplomatically difficult request, John.
>> Perhaps people who like their own pipes might answer Gordon off-list?
>> Richa
You want us to recommend a maker? ha, ha, ha.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Gordon Brown wrote:
> My wife Alison has a Burleigh D set is still looking for an F set so
> that she can play along with other pipers - not that there are many in
> East Anglia! If anyone has a set for sale or
A saxophone is a woodwind without any open holes covered by fingers.
Some holes are always open to make notes, but all of them are closed
by a key pad, as opposed to fingers like the other woodwinds you
mention, Colin.
I suspect if you covered all the holes with keys and pads you would
lose a lot
Great idea, Ian. Perhaps we could practice by descending upon him
sometime this summer?
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Ian Lawther wrote:
> I can't help thinking that for next year the Pacific North West piping group
> should move their meeting at this time of year to the same day and descend
This discussion prompted me to read again a book I read a couple of
years ago: HOW EQUAL TEMPERAMENT RUINED HARMONY (AND WHY YOU SHOULD
CARE), by Ross W. Duffin, Norton, NY, 2007. Duffin and Benade were
colleagues. Duffin is a professor of Early Music. Trying to wrap my
brain commas and the "wol
Hi Paul. I read that book, along with another one which argued that
equal temperament made Modern (post-modern?) Civilization the
"greatest the world has ever known," or something like that. Sorry, I
don't remember the name of the book or its author. I didn't agree
with his premise or his thesis
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:06 AM, wrote:
> It is my speculation that the F+ tuning originated from a prolific maker
> taking an A = 440 tuning fork as the reference for the nominal B and then
> tuning chanters by ear, with the (desirable) result that the nominal G ended
> up around 14 cents shar
Thanks for the reminder about the Glackin/Keenan CD. It will always
be associated with the solace it gave me while holed up in a Manhattan
hotel during a week of terrifyingly dull business meetings.
As for NSP & concertina, if you haven't yet listened to Rob Say's CD
"O'er Lang at the Fair" Vetera
Quote from Anthony Robb:
May I suggest picking one tune that really speaks to us but isn't yet
inside us (this includes brain, heart and fingers) and devote half our
practice time each week to that single tune for 1-6 months (depending
on time allocated to practice and complexity of tune).
Thanks to everyone for the edifying discussion. To me Doubleday seems
to be saying, the NSP are a rude, wee thing with enough charm to make
them worth preserving, and within its narrowest scope in its own way
it's quite nice, really. Another way of looking at it is that he's
saying "fa\g a phiob b
Mr. Doubleday takes great pains to prove his sophistication. Even
allowing for how the sense of some of the words used have changed
since he wrote them, it appears that Doubleday was not enthusiastic
about the NSP or NSPipers in general. So, are we to trust his
judgement overall? On the one hand
Can you already play all the tunes you want to play with the chanter
you have now? Are there no tunes that you've set aside for when you
thought you had improved to the point where you could actually play
them? Been through all the tunes in all the books you have?
>
> Don't misunderstand me--I th
So, which 13 keys do you have? I can guess the two missing Bb's.
> On the other hand, missing two C#'s seems a little strange.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> Quoting John Dally :
>
>> When do you qualify to really "need" more keys? When I ordered my set
>&
Thanks for the link for the expat viewing software. Too bad they
didn't include a piper among the musicians. The thought of a NSP
flash-mob appearing in Gray's Square came to mind. It would be
interesting to interview a crowd in downtown Newcastle about whether
or not they know about NSP. How
Here's a YouTube video of English clogging to the Redesdale Hornpipe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qtN669yKck&feature=related
I want to show this to everyone who turns hornpipes into reels. ;-)
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Tim Rolls wrote:
> A couple of items that might be of interest to
A friend of mine, Rose Laughlin (http://www.roselaughlin.com/) is
looking for a photograph of a stone house for the cover of her new CD
(which, in the interest of full disclosure, I play on). Perhaps one
of the subscribers to this list is a photographer or knows one in
Northumberland that has a ph
> It's hard to get across to anyone in Scotland that music didn't start
> with the Gows, but it didn't, and the genius of the Scottish fiddle,
> John MacLachlan, flourished c. 1700, and his variation sets on Scots
> tunes set the gold standard. They mainly survive in lute transcriptions
>
With the holidays coming up, perhaps it might be a good idea to make a
list of the best new (they're all great, I'm sure) recordings and
books with Northumbrian/Borders content. I want to make a list to
give to my friends and family. ;-)
Can anyone recommend good histories, old or new, of Northu
You heard it here first. The local sheep dog trials will be held on
Vashon Island during October 1,2 and 3, rain or shine. Any
Northumbrian smallpiper wishing to join me in a quiet patch of field
along Old Mill Road is very welcome. Plus fours, tweed caps and black
and white check vests are not
Margaret Watchorn's new collection of tunes just arrived in the mail.
It's a wonderful collection, an instant classic. Anyone seriously
interested in Northumbrian music would find many hours of enjoyment
between its covers. I ordered my copy from Margaret at
i...@pipesandfiddle.co.uk. (Sad to sa
"Parnell's March" NPS Bk 2, p.3: it's written out as a jig, but isn't
it really a hornpipe?
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there you go.
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:14 AM, amble skuse wrote:
> could you send the website link please?
> thanks
> amble
>
> On 23 April 2010 18:50, John Dally wrote:
>> Margaret sent me an email with information about her new book of
Margaret sent me an email with information about her new book of
tunes. I already reserved my copy.
Here's a quote from Margaret's email, which she said I could pass along:
I use Sibelius, and have just finished putting together a book of
tunes linked in some way to north Northumberland. Most of
Hi Alec,
If you can play it by ear on the NSP no harm done. "Real" NSPipers
play all sorts of things, even Mozart, so you should feel free to play
whatever pleases you. The NSP in F, or thereabouts, and D are
transposing instruments anyway.
all the best,
John
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM, w
Playing through some of Jack Dodd's tunes today, I wondered if anyone
on the list could tell me about him, or send me to some resource on
the web that might have information about him.
thanks!
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Matt Seattle
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 PM, John Dally wrote:
> I've 'always' - since taking up guitar at age 13 - played with other
> instrumentalists.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I thought playing in duets with
other in
thanks, Matt!
When playing with NSP in F do you tune your fiddle down or play in F
and C? Have you heard Mick O'Brien and Caoimhin o Raghallaigh? I
think Caoimhin must tune his fiddle down to be in tune with Mick's
flat set. Perhaps what I like about these duets is the fiddle being
tuned down.
MIKE MACDOUGALL'S TAPE FOR FATHER HECTOR is now OP, but perhaps if
enough people request it Paul Cranford will reissue it.
www.cranfordpub.com I wore my copy out, then ordered another one. It
is an amazing one off. The story is that Mike was a fisherman who
knew very little about recording machi
I've been listening to a lot of UP flat set and fiddle duets, and
playing my SSP in A a bit with a fiddler. I'm smitten with the sound
mix of low pipe and fiddle. I think fiddle and NSP would go well
together, but perhaps the NSP in D would produce a better match up
with a fiddle than F or F# and
When is the ebook edition coming out?
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:23 AM, tim rolls BT wrote:
> Julia wrote
>
> "The one you have was an ephemeral printing only."
>
>
> Does that mean the print will fade away and he'll have to buy one of your
> new ones :-0
>
> Tim
>
> - Original Message - F
This is similar to a technique I tried once, where I painted part of
my body with latex. I was then able to peel the latex off, seal up
the seams, et, viola, an air tight latex bag with a built in neck
ready to receive the chanter stock. The neck was perfectly suited for
producing the greatest ha
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