I have been trying to indicate the timings in all the new publications of
the NPS as a guide based on my experience as a player for dancing over the
years
but these are only a guide as the nature of the tune is as important as its
suitability for dancing in deciding on what tempo it should
Dear Piper's,
I have a G concert pitch set for sale if anyone is interested. It has one of
my own chanters with seven keys, along with a set of three drones by Bill
Hedworth. There is a set of bellows with it also by Hedworth. I think a price
of
GBP650 would be fair as the chanter has a pari
Dear Gerrit,
I have no idea why you are not on the List or rather not getting information
from it. I have copied this to the Pipers List to see if anyone has any
ideas.
Colin
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I use a Korg AT-120 which has a large analogue dial 2,1/2" square which
gives all the info you are likely to need. I use it for initial setting up the
pitch and relative tuning of the notes but after that use the lug to set the
tuning against the G,D and A drones.
It is also useful for settin
Apart from the problem of not striking the E key positively enough you
should look at the reed which has probably hardened up and might need a gentle
scrape on the sides to ease it up sufficiently to prevent it squeaking on the
low E or other notes on the chanter. If the reed does not break i
There is no 'official' NPS policy on telling folk how to play the closed end
smallpipes as far as I am aware in my position as Chairman and Vice
President of the NPS. I beleive that Julia - NPS Secretary - has said this
already.
Therefore 'competition' style or any other style does not exist
Dear Adrian et al,
Despite what I said about 'anything goes' as long as it helps towards what
the player is trying to express in their playing I still think that the
'default' method of playing the closed end NSP chanter is detached or staccato
or
whatever you like to call it as Chris Ormsto
My interpretation of the word 'choyte' is that it refers to gratuitous
gracings applied on the small pipe chanter in the manner of the highland pipes.
It
is interesting that the word 'teuchter' (pronounced chookter), that is
applied to Highlanders speaking in the Gaelic in Glasgow, referred
The most effective vibrato is obtained by having an assistant standing
behind you pressing the bag at the desired rate. The trouble with this method
is
that the pipes sound like a Hammond organ but effective nevertheless.
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We had our monthly Monday meeting last night at the Bagpipe Museum in
Morpeth and in trying to demonstrate the ideal choyte discoverd that the Keel
Row
was the best tune to show it in all its pure choyteness. In fact you can hear
this on the Pipes of All Nations 78 which featured Anty Charlt
If you wish to extend the bore depth of the cotton bud you could glue it on
to a thin knitting needle or a length of 1/16" welding rod. I wrap the end of
a 1/8" welding rod with cotton that I seal with shellac varnish to stop it
from un-wrapping and use this for oiling and also french polishi
If you want to get some liquid paraffin try your local vet as they still use
it on animals.
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I have been clearing my order board of emails dealing with orders for sets
of pipes that I never got round to making due to lack of feedback from the
folk who contacted me in the first place and being busy making sets for folk
who
kept in touch. If there is anyone out there who is still inte
Face the reeds with the tongues towards the centre of the stock to avoid the
tongues beating against the inner wall of the stock:there is a fair degree
of movement on the large drone tongue for example. If the stock just has holes
drilled thru a solid piece of wood then it is still advisable
Try putting a spot of super glue into the hole as this will set in the
presence of oil. I have found it works very well.
Colin Ross
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The three drone, plain chanter set was one of the first sets I made and I
enjoyed playing it for the same reasons as Paul. It was so light and easy to
play and of course ideally suited to playing most of the tunes in the Peacock
Collection which is why I called them the Peacock Pipes and even
Dear John,
The pipes look like GHB although they did play the Half-longs as made by
Robertson from the 1920's. I remember seeing a couple of tea-chests full of
them
at Glens waiting for adjustment in the 1960's with silver plates attached to
the drone stocks saying they were the Fusiliers s
Kathryn will be playing Peter Maxwell Davies 'Kettletoft Inn' tonight on
Radio Three from the Sage Gateshead. It should be available on the Internet on
the BBC website for the next week I beleive so that it can be heard
internationally.
I haven't heard it so it will be interesting to hear wha
I had a call from Mr Scott of Scotts Leathers this morning to let me know they
were still in the business of supplying leather for bags and bellows. This was
in response to a call I made to the firm last week wondering if they were still
operating. He said they had rented out the majority of the
The way I approached developing the G and D chanters was as you say to scale
the chanters in proportion and then try them out and adjust the hole positions
to get the chanters in tune. I also made the decision to use the same reed for
the chanters for simplicity in providing reeds to cover the v
Dear Richard,
I was hoping you would come into the discussion. Anita's method is certainly
different in the initial stage of tying the cane on to the staple but I think
the main thing to be looked at is the rubbing down and final scrape
of the cane. I aim for a gradual thinning of the cane toward
Dear Dave and the list,
I think that you are dead right about how making the reeds for the Irish, or in
my case the Border pipe, gives more insight into the nature of the beast as you
have to adapt the technique you have learnt for the small pipe reed to suit the
taper bore to produce a reed tha
Hi Klaus,
I am responding to the transposition into different keys on the pipes. Dick
Hensold plays in G on his D chanter all the time. It is like playing in C(Bb)
on your standard pitch G(F) chanter. Tom Clough used to play this way and
Adrian Schofield used to do it as it was handy for me a
Hi John,
Remember when we both tried the idea of increasing the bore diameter to
raise the pitch? I made up two sticks with F# spacing and bores at 3/16" and
one
worked but the other resolutely stayed in F# pitch which was what you found as
well I think. Even if you get the rise in pitch, wh
If anyone is interested in purchasing a set of Scottish small pipes I have a
set for sale.
They were made by myself in 1988 and are in blackwood with brass ferrules and
alternative ivory end pieces. The drone arrangement is bass with two tenors
with the chanter in Bb. They are with bellows and a
The arrangement of the lower keys can never be standardised and it is a
question of customising for each individual depending on the number of keys and
the pitch of keys required. The alternatives that Julia mentions are ones that
I have tried myself and each has its merits and drawbacks.
If st
?With the practical experience I have had over the years I thought it may help
the discussion to give my views on the problem of positioning the lower keys
once you start to extend the range downwards. Even what you may call the
standard 17 key that was developed by Reid had an either-or positi
The original remedy to correct tuning and excessive vibrato on the top notes
was to insert a small cane G reed into the end of the chanter and move it in
and out until an optimum position was found. It was then cut off at that point
and the end piece replaced. This would satisfy Chris's complain
Dear Helen,
I actually made a D set for someone with larger fingers which was comfortable
for him and didn't worry him as he was not intending to play with other F
pipers and to be realistic might be the only way to fix him up with a playing
set he can manage.
However if the finger holes are dri
Dear Richard,
Sound reasoning re the bores but at 4mm bore (5/32") it could be a little quiet
altho I have found it sound the same tone and volume as the regular 4.4mm
(11/64"). The sharpening effect does work at 3,8mm (3/16") but can sound a
little too loud altho once again I have found it OK a
Dear David,
It is not that I am too busy to make reeds fro you it is just that I do not
make reeds for other makers sets especially if they are still alive. I had to
call a moritorium on reeding Burleigh pipes some years ago now because of the
demand on my own reedmaking and pipemaking activit
For all of you who read Anthony's letter in the NPS Newsletter can I correct
what he said about the title Rusty Gulley where he said it should read Busty
Gulley because of confusion over the lower loop on the letter R as it occurs in
the original MS of the Vickers Tune Book. It is not the cleare
Actually not about RG but to mention that Bert Lloyd had me play My Dearie Sits
Ower Late Up (Adam Bell) in 3/2 3/4 rhythm on The Iron Muse (Topic) instead of
the straight 9/8 as written which I managed quite well but it got the jazz bass
player Jim Bray some time to get the 1-2-3-123 beat in hi
Earliest example of anyone going over the top re plaid I can think of was Sir
Walter Scott who wore trousers of the stuff woven in the Border mills probably
at Linlithgow. A bit like the gadgee who comes to the Morpeth Gathering.
I think that anyone commenting on 'Choyting' should be a player o
Hi Matt,
As far as?I am concerned Linlithgow is at least Lowland if not Border but I
suppose if it is not technically in the Borders Region I admit I am mistaken.
It could be to do with those pipers in the LBPS who need to separate the Border
piping from the Lowland if we are to get anywhere w
I was reprimanded quite rightly by Matt for saying that Linlithgow was in the
Borders in a recent e-mail when I meant Innerleithen which is on the Tweed in
between Galashiels and Peebles. This was where I bought a length of black and
white plaid at the mill which had been specially woven to comm
As one who is married to a Scot and being half Scotch myself I am familiar with
the 'choocter' (teuchter) word which I was told referred to sound of the Gaelic
language spoken in Glasgow by all the Highlanders and Islanders who came
looking for work. It was thought to sound like chooky birds (he
What about the Three Tenors doing doing all that warbling at the end of O Sole
Mio. It was done in fun and because they could do it and it went down a storm.
Why can't we do the same thing on our pipes if we want to for fun and mischief
to get laughter and response from our listeners?which is pr
If you can be bothered to read this after all that has been going on it
concerns the use of the 'lug' to tune the chanter and little theory.
The notes to be tuned are the three that make up the Major Triad or Doh,MeSo,or
Tonic,major Third and Fifth intervals.
Start with the G drone on and do
Dear Sam,
The 'lugs' are a pair of devices situated on either side of the head as in ' If
yi divent shurrup aal giv yi a belt across the lugs.'?You may need to look it
up in a Geordie Dictionary. I am afraid that NSP's come with a bit of local
jargon known as 'Geordie' since they were develope
Dear Mike,
The pragmatic technique is to regard all the accidentals as thirds or fifths?to
a particular drone pitch.
?e.g. D# against a B drone as a third or fifth against a G# drone
?? Fnat? ""??? C# Bb "?
?? G# E
Dear Ross,
I have just had a set of drone reeds I tongued with plastic returned to me for
re-tongueing with cane. The player had compared the tone against a cane tongued
set and did not like the tone. There are a good number of folk out there with
educated ears (lugs) that can hear the differe
If you tune the middle B against an E drone to be a perfect fifth it will sound
sharp against the G and other drones. The middle E even tho it is tuned as a
perfect fifth against the A drone does not sound too sharp against the G and D
drones strangely enough. Theory is all very well in tuning c
Dear Chris,
The tuning of the low E I find is most effectively tuned also against the A
drone as a fifth or its inversion. This is also an octave to the top E so it
can be checked both ways. The 'third' way is to use the tuning meter which I
find to be the quickest way to tune most of the note
Dear Richard,
The Peacock Collection was printed in facsimile 'warts and all' so there were
some of the original mistakes on the page.That was in 1980, but in the reprint
(1999)?the music was reset and corrections were made so that particular bar in
Wylam Away was altered to scan properly.
C
Dear Matt,
I agree with you about the 'slipshod editing' except I would say it was
ignorance of the pipes and how to write out the music that came into it as
well. Examples being one of the tunes being printed upside down and The Hen's
March being printed in the wrong key and of course the fir
For those of us who live locally and were thinking of coming to the
Chantry?this Saturday,?Maureen Davison has offered to host us for this meeting
at least. Her address is in the Handbook.
Colin R
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Dear Paul,
I think you have made the right distinction between 'gracing' and 'cutting' but
it is the cuttings which are not neccessary on the small pipe which are the
'choytes'. The gracings, if done neatlyand discretely, are a part of playing
any instrument which includes the NSP.
Colin R
George Atkinson used to attend the NPS meetings when I was there in the early
days and he used to be the only fluent piper that came to our meetings. I
remember him playing Athole Highlanders and the Remember Me hornpipe in a very
clear and articulated style that we knew was what we had to aim f
Dear Adrian,
Come on let's get?some musical sense into all this. The fact that I have not
competed does not mean I do not have any idea of the nature of the instrument.
My experience of playing the pipes both as an amateur and semi- professional as
well as my broader experience of music other
HI Julia,
This is the e-mail he sent me under his 'what me' address. I assume it was
Adrian?
Just read your long reply to the detached note debate with that quote from
Clough which was right on. There is always something to be learnt from other
folk in whatever field they are working which h
OK Barry,
At our regular Monday meeting last night in Morpeth at our temporary venue in
the Methodist Hall I thought I would try out the solo piping idea with every
one present and of the nine who were there only a couple said they would rather
not play solo. There was no crticism of their ind
Dear Richard,
Thanks for the support and fair assessment of what happened at the Monday
meeting. I am afraid that Barry has his own axe to grind and cross to bear?and
in trying to support his idea I have fallen foul of his antagonism against me
again when I was trying to build a bridge between
Dear Neil,
I have taken my pipes with my hand luggage on a number of flights without any
problem with the drones and chanter enclosed in plastic piping and wrappred in
cloth to prevent them rattling which will also help to stablilise humidity
variations. With the pipes in the cabin there shoul
Dear Margaret,
I went along with Barry's idea on trying to encourage more playing by oneself
only to get knocked down by him but it is something I will be trying out at our
meetings in future if people want it and in an atmosphere of encouragement as
you recalled at the earlier meetings.
I h
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List. Here goes again with dot.
CR
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It looks
Although Derwentwater's Farewell is an excellent to play as the mourners are
coming in or going out at a funeral as well as playing for the committal, it is
fraught with danger of squeaks when playing the lower notes on the chanter.
Much safer to play The Rowan Tree which does not use the keys a
Dear Peter,
When I came into piping very few pipers could play together because of wide
variations of pitch so when I took up pipemaking I determined to establish a
standard pitch with my pipes. As the pitch was between F and F# I chose F as
the standard as at least it was a key that was reaso
?
?
Dear Jolyon,
I see that you have an answer to your question but can I say again that the
playing pressure for most bellows pipes is between 14 and 15" water guage and
some times even less. The trouble is that pipers coming to bellows pipes from
Highland pipes tend to play highe
Exactly.
The stress is on the second beat in 'tomato' whichever way it is pronounced
which is not incorrect in that respect but it is a long syllable which is
incorrect. It is essentially? a short lead in beat followed be three short?
beats like quaver, crotchet,crotchet,crotchet, like the fir
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Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:54
Subject: Re: [NSP] Rants and reels
Dear John,
I am glad you enjoyed reading the Journal which is designed to stimulate
thought a wee bit more that the Newsletter. The article which w
The start of the rant beat is the opposite of trochhee and more iambic with two
extra strong beats following the iambic te-tum. i.e. te-tum,tum,tum.
CR
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Subj
Yes, an iam followed by a spondee.
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Subject: [NSP] Re: Ranting and raving
So an iamb followed by a spondee? Let's just stick to the ever cle
Dear Paul,
The system of showing stresses in speaking is shown up very well in Stephen
Fry's book ' The Ode Less Travelled' where is where I got my information from
and I think the example you gave of  'a red,red rose'  from Burn's poem is
about the best vocalisation of the rant rhythm. That
What is all this about the 'big'? pipes,Malcom. I thought you were making
smallpipes.
Colin.
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Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 0:07
Subject: [NSP] Tune Request
Happy New Year to all my readers. Can anyone recommend a medley of
Scottish tunes that'll do
Er, excuse me but am I being a bit thick here or maybe intellectually
challenged in not finding any connection between the tune Jimmy Allan and
Tullochgorum. First of all they are a different rhythm and secondly the chord
structure is different and then basically they do not even sound similar.
I have had it brought to my attention that it was the REEL of Tullochgorum?that
was in question. The renaming of tunes of tunes due to ignorance or wilfulness
has been something that has gone on for hundreds of years. Just look at our
Peacock Follows the Hen, known as Mad Moll,etc, since Elizabe
?
Please sir, what is a 'gob-stopper' rhythm? If it is anything to do with tomato
soup I think I may be sick.
I had never seen that D version of the tune before but I now have a strong
suspicion that Powrie had something to do with it most likely as the composer
as it is a very good dance
I think this business of expressing rhythms in terms of word s or word
groupings is fraught with difficulty as it depends on the emphasis with which
you say the words. Any actor will tell you it is possible to say words or
groups of words in many different ways and although it may be fun to use
Hi Colin,
Pete asked me to make left handed chanter for him and I have made one or two
since I have been making pipes including tying the stocks in the other side of
the bag.
Colin R
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Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Am I tone deaf?
I haven't tried the test yet but as far as I am concerned the tuning I
do is always in relation to a fixed drone when the b
If anyone out there is interested in an ivory set made by Hedworth and
adjusted by me let me know.
The price range would be around £3,000,
Cheers,
Colin Ross
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I have published in my Technical Advisors report in the forthcoming
Newsletter a list of hole positions with diameters as the result of my
own research into the tuning of chanters that is the result of forty
years pipemaking and which is about 90% right.
I think that Malcom should name the maker
The best person to comment on this would be Richard Johnstone who has
been using them in schools on loan from the Sage, Gateshead who had
them made from a grant awarded some years ago where they had £25,000 to
make 100 sets which obviously limited what could be done with £250 per
set. What turn
Dear Alec,
The secret is to stick to one reamer that is inserted to exactly the
same position for each chanter you make and you may get consistent
results as you jockey the hole positions around with subsequent
chanters you make. Even then the quality of the wood will affect the
tuning so y
The NPS has just published a small tune book inpsired by the Boulting
brothers who found they couldn't join in at a session I was leading at
the North American Pipers' Convention at Killington in 2007. They asked
a number of pipers to contribute their collection of 30 tunes that they
thought sh
Dear John,
When I was saying that I thought the tunes in the 'First 30 Tunes'
might be better played on some other instrument than the small pipes to
give an idea of how the tune went it was to avoid the copying of pehaps
bad playing technique from pipers who had contributed tracks for the
CD.
Dear Malcom,
I wish you could ask pipemakers about your ideas before putting it on
the List.
The idea of measuring from the shoulder was the original way of marking
the hole centres and I used it in my class for some time before
discovering that pupils' ideas of what was 5/8" varied from an 1/8"
Just to mention that Mike nelson used my hole spacings on his chanters
which he graciously acknowledged on a diagram of chanter hole spacings
he produced in the early days.
Colin R
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From: Anthony Robb
To: Dartmouth NPS
Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 8:14
Subject: [NSP]
The reason for measuring from the top of the chanter I already have
explained but the statement that 'historically' reed seatings were
parallel is not strictly accurate. Forster Charlton had a parallel reed
seating so he could adjust his reed to play in tune with his duet
partner Colin Caisley
Dear John,
No, it would not do at all for me to play the tunes as I would be
imprinting my own style, whatever that is, on the tunes with all the
bad habits of gracing I have picked up over the years. This would also
apply to other pipers who have learnt from 'the old guys' and have
developed
Dear Anthony,
Since you are now on the List I feel I can respond to your fascination
with gobstoppers and tomato soup. I was going to comment on what you
were saying about playing Rants and how deeply disappointed you were
that none of the tunes in the 30 tunes collection were called RANTS. I
Here,here!
Colin R
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From: Barry Say
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Sent: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:00
Subject: [NSP] J Allen
On 12 Mar 2009 at 0:46, Anthony Robb wrote.
Hi All,
I have sent Anthony Robb a copy of my e-mail suggesting the genesis of
the tune
Jimmy Allen.
Th
Thanks Paul for injecting a bit of commonsense into all this purist
debate of the Wonderful World of Ranting and its exponents belonging to
the Dead Ranters Society when all they were doing were playing tunes
that they had not been to lessons to learn how to play but just liked
playing or even
I remember being concerned at the time that Chris's recordings were not
being released by the person involved with excuses that other
recordings were being released at the time and therefore it wasn't the
best time to get them out. There was some other technical excuse about
the editing being o
This came to me but I can't help. Anyone out there able to.
Colin Ross
Dear Mr Ross
I have just found in my collection of folk music The Rout of the Blues
– Robin and Barry Dransfield.
One of the pieces of music is The Waters of Tyne; unbelievable
beautiful music. On the sleeve Barr
Beware of the press. The same article had Katherine pictured in her
usual langorous pose which even she might be getting a bit sick of by
now.
Whatever might be said of her and her style of piping you cannot deny
she has ability in her fingering and compositional talents and if she
keeps it up
Dear Richard,
A corn dolly is something to do with the harvest that is made with
corn stalks. All sorts of original and traditional designs have been
made either as fertility symbols or to be worn on the lapel to show you
were available for hire as a farm worker or were hired. The term 'cut
and d
Tommy was one of the last pipers to have known the Clough's and it was
a sense of the end of an era when I heard he had died last Wednesday.
For those of you who live locally the funeral service is at St.
Cuthbert's in Bellingham at 2pm.
Colin R
_
Julia has stated the rules re the election of a new President as they
are and the Committee decided to stick to this and the secrecy involved
when in my opinion it did need to be opened up to the membership and
from a selection made by the Committee a small group from the executive
o
Dear Paul,
You show exactly what is wrong with the Society at the moment with two
groups at each others throats due to basic misunderstandings of what
thet think is the right thing to do. The main problem is that we have
two groups within the Society with all the negative things bei
Just about my own sentiments on the present situation. I was reading
Machiavelli's 'The Prince' recently and he was writing about
'malcontents' and ways of dealing with them. I am not suggesting we
should resort to his methods but the problem with the Society have
started with simila
I am pleased to read about the respect given to Jimmy Little up at
Alnwick. The group of pipers at Morpeth who mostly play from music and
sound as 'flat as the paper the music is printed on' are not interested
in any input from people like myself. They seem to be more concerned
about
In the original reprint of the Peacock Tunes I did not indicate
metronome markings and I am not sure if I was involved in setting them
for the current reprint. I had felt it was useful to indicate something
for new players not familiar with the idiom and generally erred on the
slower
I have one or two copies of the original reprint of Wright's book that
I called 'Peacock's Tunes' if anyone is interested.
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I think that anyone in UK who may buy the pipes will still have to pay
duty on them as exemption from duty only applies to pipes being sent
back to the maker for adjustment and then to be sent back to the sender.
CR
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I wonder if this advert for a privately run course is allowed on this
list. This is a course that is not run by the NPS but for the benefit
of the person who is running it who although taking the risk and time
to organise it is also taking any profit that may arise.
CR
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Yes, for goodness sake. If Susan had come up here and run the course as
a Society event that would have been the sensible, non ego- tripping,
thing to do especially as she was taking advantage of running it
between the Society events of the Competitions and the Concert.
A lot of folk beleive it
The difference is that this is a course run by an individual for profit
and not an organisation.
CR
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From: Simon James
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:01
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places
available
The Halsway
No problem as you are doing it as a group activity and there is no
conflict with the NPS who I am sure welcomes it.
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Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places
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