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2011-07-03 Thread smallpipes
Hi John The forum on the NPS web site is open to all (you just have to register) For some reason it is tucked away on the members page - I think that it should be on the front page! Currently things are a bit quiet but I hope that it will perk up once people try it and like it. It is ce

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2011-07-02 Thread davidsin
Hi Francis, I joined the NPS in 1991 as expat, the magazine was really the only contact I had with piping. Later the problems of payment caused so much hassle I left perhaps 10 years later. I joined the LBPS because they had payment by bankcard and they were more towards musicology,

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2011-07-01 Thread smallpipes
And an even better case for posting it on the NPS forum (its open to non members) Quoting Francis Wood : On 1 Jul 2011, at 20:39, david...@pt.lu wrote: How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are interested but are not NPS members Hi Dave, I think you've made

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2011-07-01 Thread Francis Wood
On 1 Jul 2011, at 20:39, david...@pt.lu wrote: > How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are > interested but are not NPS members Hi Dave, I think you've made quite a good case here for joining the NPS. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at ht

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2011-07-01 Thread barry07
(Suspicious voice) Hullo, Anyone there? I've got my tin hat on. Any incoming fire? (Normal voice) Attempts at humour on the internet are dangerous and generally misunderstood. I am the vile editor of the NPS Journal who changed the title of Anthony's article without his consent and I have

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2011-07-01 Thread davidsin
Hi Antony, How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are interested but are not NPS members -- I like the hint of lilt in your playing - always have A regards Dave S Anthony Robb wrote: Hello John That's sounds great. It's exactly the

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2011-07-01 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello John That's sounds great. It's exactly the response I was hoping for when I submitted the article on Rants to the NPS Journal. I'd titled the piece "Anyone For a Rant?" but it was apparently unsuitable and altered without my consent or knowledge to "A Bit Of a Rant" which r

[NSP] Re: re-Tune of the Month

2011-05-24 Thread Francis Wood
On 24 May 2011, at 13:12, Richard York wrote: > Love and piece indeed... did you have any particular piece in mind this > month, Francis? Well, as a matter of fact, yes! The last 'piece' I played was 'Handel's Water Piece', a duet arrangement of Handels 2nd Water Music Suite (the Ouverture),

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread GibbonsSoinne
And gold is amazingly soft, so won't wear well. John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Rick Damon
My SSP set is gold-plated (no keys) and looks as good as new 15 years on now. My NSP (only a few years old) is silver-plated and also looks as good as new. But the gold really stands out, so if you can afford the extra cost, it's really worthwhile! --Rick On Jan 14, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Julia Say

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Julia Say
On 14 Jan 2011, Colin wrote: > Gold fittings won't tarnish (well, people have gold flutes so why not). There are gold-plated sets. The cost, in the current metals market, involves the phrase "arm and a leg" when compared to silver plate though. Gold plate is also applied much thinner than sil

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Colin
le have gold flutes so why not). Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "Bo Albrechtsen" To: Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?) Den 14-01-2011 21:39, [1]gibbonssoi...@aol.com skrev: ..snip With brass,

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread barry07
Quoting Bo Albrechtsen : Yes ! Also the metal oxides accelerates the tendencies of vegetable oils to turn into gum-like "snotomers" ( he-he, thank's Julia) I believe that the most famous snotomer in the world is the glue on post-it notes. And it looks vile as well. Depend

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Bo Albrechtsen
Den 14-01-2011 21:39, [1]gibbonssoi...@aol.com skrev: ..snip With brass, the same is not true for copper and its alloys. So corrosion doesn't prevent further corrosion. Sorry, but I don't quite follow you there. Rust on iron or steel does not prevent further corrosion, but exac

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread GibbonsSoinne
Brass is not gunmetal. With gunmetal, iron oxide forms a thin airtight layer for a while, protecting the metal underneath, at least till proper rust gets going. With brass, the same is not true for copper and its alloys. So corrosion doesn't prevent further corrosion. Fu

[NSP] Re: [Re: Holy/Holey Halfpenny]

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Lawther
Gibbons, John wrote: Oddly 'Poll Hapenny', an Irish set dance, seems sometimes to appear as Holy Ha'penny (I'll check tonight in Breathnach); - I never thought of this as a personal name but assumed a reference to a 1/2d tax per head...maybe I have an odd way of thinking of things

[NSP] Re: [Re: Holy/Holey Halfpenny]

2010-02-15 Thread Gibbons, John
Holey ha'penny = a ha'penny with a hole in? Holy ha'penny = Peter's pence? the widow's mite? In the absence of a lyric fitting the current tune, The Chorus Jig, explaining the title will remain a matter of conjecture. Oddly 'Poll Hapenny', an Irish set dance, seems sometimes to appear as Holy H

[NSP] Re: re chanter material.

2009-09-28 Thread rosspipes
Dear Peter, Tradition is the name of the game in instrument making where makers are sticking to well tried materials that they know will last two or three generations and will be an investment as with string instruments. When you start to mention computer aided design it is a mistake to think t

[NSP] Re: re composing

2009-08-12 Thread amble skuse
the cliff car park at beer - devon written many a tune 2009/8/12 P DUNN <[1]p.dun...@btinternet.com> Thank you Richard for introducing a non-contentious topic!! Definitely whilst walking for me. I can recommend the walk from Lordenshaws car park to the forestry commi

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread amble skuse
the other option is to memorise the tune and then try playing it but starting a note lower down, trusting your ears and fingers. you might not even need to write the tune out at all. 2009/8/3 Ah yes, taking the plunge in the first place. Though, Michael Dillon said he has s

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ah yes, taking the plunge in the first place. Though, Michael Dillon said he has sucked them and seen. Maybe it's a personal temperament/aesthetic thing. Like fact that we're playing pipes and fiddles rather than synthesisers or riding choppers rather than Goldwings. > >Errr.sorry, could yo

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Gretton
>>I've always got the impression that all this Midi, Abc, Sibelius stuff is >>probably more laborious than long hand. With all these programs, the laboriousness depends entirely on how practised you are. I know from experience that ABC allows you to enter stuff at great speed and the printed resul

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
>or at least what I >thought was the >easy option and eventually came round full circle and did them (and >still do them) in long hand. Thank you, Michael, for this info. I've always got the impression that all this Midi, Abc, Sibelius stuff is probably more laborious than long hand. You've s

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Anita Evans
christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: The "flatness" and mechanical playing problems which many people perceive with "playing from dots" is only inevitable for people who struggle with the reading, and those who think that the dots represent *exactly* how music should be played. I would en

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Christopher.Birch
>The "flatness" and mechanical playing problems which many >people perceive >with "playing from dots" is only inevitable for people who >struggle with the >reading, and those who think that the dots represent *exactly* >how music >should be played. I would endorse this (and the rest). c O

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Gruar
Dave S wrote: No one has so far mention the fact that classical musicians usually have an ally waving a stick and hands giving them the colour, speeds and breathing life into the piece they are playing -- namely his interpretation of what the COMPOSER wished to convey from the dots, with all it

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Dave S
Richard Evans wrote: Philip Gruar wrote: I'm sure everybody with a so-called "classical" music training here (and jazz or whatever) - i.e. anyone for whom the purely mechanical act of reading written music is completely second nature, does the reading without consciously thinking about doin

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Matt Seattle
On 6/11/09, anth...@robbpipes.com wrote: >   When asked what the >   third tune was, Robin said he hadn't a clue - he'd forgotten the tune >   he was going to play and set off making a new tune up as he went along. This has happened on several occasions with Border Directors, as Chris would te

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Anthony Robb
d you'll be more than halfway there. Anthony --- On Thu, 11/6/09, ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote: From: ch...@harris405.plus.com Subject: [NSP] Re: re notes v. ear To: "Dartmouth N.S.P. site" Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 8:03 AM I'm not

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Richard Evans
Philip Gruar wrote: Can I just say, with particular reference to Richard's last post, that I am in no way claiming any superiority for the classically-trained position. Reading my post again, it looks a bit as if I am. I didn't read that into it at all- it was just a comment by me on my own

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Richard York
When teaching an evening class on playing traditional music a while back, I was determined to get the dots only players to play by ear, & visa versa too, so they all had the benefit of both techniques. Most seemed to find it useful. So after some weeks of working up to it, and following John K

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread chris
I'm not an artist, but my wife is, and she swears by a book called "Drawing on the right side of the brain". The premise is that the two halves of the brain work in different ways. The left side (and I may have got this garbled, correct me if I'm wrong) is analytical and logical, and the right side

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread anthony
all means use dots but also listen, listen and listen again; you know it'll do you good. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 11/6/09, Philip Gruar wrote: From: Philip Gruar Subject: [NSP] Re: re notes v. ear To: "Dartmouth N.S.P. site" Date: Thursday, 11

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread Richard Hensold
Hi Philip, et al, I guess I need to respond to this... It is of course impossible to know just what Mr. Little was talking about in his attribution of "flatness" to note-reading-- we don't know the players involved, their abilities, their musical or cultural background, and I fr

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread Philip Gruar
Can I just say, with particular reference to Richard's last post, that I am in no way claiming any superiority for the classically-trained position. Reading my post again, it looks a bit as if I am. I enormously admire all those who play mostly by ear. I think on the whole they are better musici

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread Richard Evans
Philip Gruar wrote: I'm sure everybody with a so-called "classical" music training here (and jazz or whatever) - i.e. anyone for whom the purely mechanical act of reading written music is completely second nature, does the reading without consciously thinking about doing it. This is the bas

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Here here! I was hesitating about saying exactly the same thing, only you put it better than I could. Cheers, Richard Philip Gruar wrote: I think Peter makes just the point here that I was going to make, when Anthony (I think) first started the debate. Also, Dick made very good points. The "

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-15 Thread Christopher.Birch
Greets Rick et al. >We're talking about >something more simple than that, just learning to control the >instrument. Of course, and there's no better way than strict slow tempo staccatissimo. But what you do in your practice is of necessity, I think, exaggerated. playing than playing sloppi

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2009-04-14 Thread Rick Damon
But Chris, we're not talking about styles at all. We're talking about something more simple than that, just learning to control the instrument. Or do you consider playing well a different style of playing than playing sloppily? Whether you play the traditional tunes or rock and roll is s

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2009-04-14 Thread Paul Gretton
rkby! (and vice versa for Rameau or Lully) Cheers, Paul Gretton -Original Message- From: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu [mailto:christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu] Sent: 14 April 2009 10:51 To: davidthba...@googlemail.com; ch...@chrisormston.com Cc: rosspi...@aol.com; lisaridley6...@hotmail.com; n

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-14 Thread Christopher.Birch
. c >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gretton [mailto:i...@gretton-willems.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:30 AM >To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: > >David Baker wrote: > >>>Had it not been for certain groups of musicians breaking t

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-14 Thread Christopher.Birch
> Do you think math teachers are unfair for calling answers >"wrong"? > > I'm sorry, but this is frankly silly. Proving things write or rongue is what maths is about. Something may be "wrong" when playing a given style music (like playing jazz as if it was classical and vice versa) but descr

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2009-04-14 Thread Christopher.Birch
< I don't think it fair to call any style of playing any > instrument 'incorrect' simply because it does not adhere rigidly to > tradition. Here we go again! FWIW: I a) value the tradition (and the baroque) and b) agree wholeheartedly with the above statement. I play various instruments in

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Gretton
David Baker wrote: >>Had it not been for certain groups of musicians breaking the rules >>because what resulted sounded good to them, the only style of trumpet >>playing would be baroque, and jazz would not exist (to give but one >>example). Hmmm...that is a very interesting take on the history o

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Rick Damon
David, Are you also opposed to giving out grades in school, as it might traumatize or hinder the creativity of those who "march to a different drummer"? Do you think math teachers are unfair for calling answers "wrong"? --Rick On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:56 PM, David Baker wrote: Though I

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Julia . Say
On 13 Apr 2009, Chris Ormston wrote: > Andy May, Pauline Cato and I were discussing competitions at the > Whitley Bay residential course last year, and we concluded that > judging - a thankless task in the best of circumstances. Well I for one am extremely grateful for the positive and helpful

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread David Baker
]rosspi...@aol.com [mailto:[3]rosspi...@aol.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 18:49 To: [4]lisaridley6...@hotmail.com Cc: [5]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Beware of the press. The same article had Katherine pictured in her usual langorous pose which even she might be getting a bit sic

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Ormston
2009 18:49 To: lisaridley6...@hotmail.com Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Beware of the press. The same article had Katherine pictured in her usual langorous pose which even she might be getting a bit sick of by now. Whatever might be said of her and her style of piping you c

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread rosspipes
...@gretton-willems.com; pipers list Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:40 Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: No I do not - curiousity sattisfied? My thoughts and concerns lie with the ridicule facing Northumbrian piping and the child herself as a consequence of publicity and unheeded advice. > Date:

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Francis Wood
tain's Got Talent" with even more trepidation than usual :-( Chris -Original Message- From: lisa ridley [mailto:lisaridley6...@hotmail.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 10:45 To: helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz; pipers list Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Apologies, I was under the impression that

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread lisa ridley
.@gretton-willems.com > Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: > > > Just a tiny question, Lisa. You don't happen to have a child of your own who > enters NSP competitions, do you? Just curious. > > Cheers, > > Paul Gretton > > -Original Message-

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Ormston
o the next broadcast of "Britain's Got Talent" with even more trepidation than usual :-( Chris -Original Message- From: lisa ridley [mailto:lisaridley6...@hotmail.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 10:45 To: helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz; pipers list Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Apolog

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread colin
g the hosepipe and the response he got?). The general public just isn't aware of what should be done and what shouldn't. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "lisa ridley" To: ; "pipers list" Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: R

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Matt Seattle
> My mistake Matt - but then you too are a kid from Kent (and more precisely > I think you and Tim Edey are both native to the Planet Thanet) 'Tis true, sir (along with Tracy Emin & Edward Heath), though my genes are from elsewhere. As are my jeans. To get on or off this list see list informat

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Ian Lawther
Matt Seattle wrote: I think you mean Session A9 Ian. Session A7 is me and Bill Telfer, and we rock My mistake Matt - but then you too are a kid from Kent (and more precisely I think you and Tim Edey are both native to the Planet Thanet) Ian To get on or off this list see list information

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Matt Seattle
On 4/13/09, Ian Lawther wrote: > ... Session A7 among > many others. I think you mean Session A9 Ian. Session A7 is me and Bill Telfer, and we rock. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Gretton
ipers list Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list was a forum for self expression and discussion. I was not aware there was a required censorship in case "the truth" about these pretenders reaches the "public" domain. T

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread lisa ridley
Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list was a forum for self expression and discussion. I was not aware there was a required censorship in case "the truth" about these pretenders reaches the "public" domain. The Newcastle Journal is a publication with a weekly circ

[NSP] Re: re written music

2009-03-10 Thread Matt Seattle
There's no 'answer' to this because the situation is a muddle. Aurally transmitted music and written music are in constant interaction, and an inaccurate written version can be learnt and then passed on aurally so that it then becomes part of 'the tradition'. A few examples: Out of a dozen or so

[NSP] Re: re written music

2009-03-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
> With regard to the Tom Anderson quote, "Never try to learn >a tune you > don't already know", as posted by Christopher Birch, Just for the record, I was referring to a previous posting by Colin Ross, in which he wrote: "It has already attracted criticism from one of our pipers who is 'd

[NSP] Re: re written music

2009-03-09 Thread gibbonssoinne
While many NSPers both can play by ear and can read and write music, the main problem is not that nobody writes the music down, but rather, that many players prefer, on hearing a tune in a session or playaround, to ask what book it's in, dig out the notes, and start playing from the dots. Some

[NSP] Re: Re-Images reversed or not

2009-01-14 Thread colin
Off-topic but see here http://www.marquise.de/en/themes/linksrechts.shtml Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "Richard York" To: "NSP group" Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: [NSP] Re-Images reversed or not Dunno about ladies, but I believe that gents have the b

[NSP] Re: re manometer

2009-01-02 Thread John Liestman
This what I use and I have been quite happy with it. It's range covers that of most bagpipes of all types. http://www.hvactool.com/catalog.php3?hcategory=23&hsubcat=198&hpagenum=1&hproductid=DWYER-61030 I am sure the same is available "over there". Happy New Year, by the way!!! I celebrate it on

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Richard York
I risk being shot down for ignorance, but is it not the case that the GHB's were traditionally a shade away from Bb concert pitch, and have now come to roost on Bb as such for similar reasons? ( I just wish they wouldn't play them alongside brass bands, which tend to have a different temperament

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Gretton
Francis (Wood) wrote: >>>The course of instrumental pitch is a complex and controversial one. Indeed! For anyone seriously interested in this topic, there is now a fascinating book by Bruce Haynes: A History of Performing Pitch: The Story of "A" http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6657/is_

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Peter and others. I agree absolutely with your suggestion and would advocate the use of standard pitches only, whether D, F, F# or G. The course of instrumental pitch is a complex and controversial one. Unfortunately, the history of woodwind and brasswind making is plagued by exampl

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread rosspipes
Dear Peter, When I came into piping very few pipers could play together because of wide variations of pitch so when I took up pipemaking I determined to establish a standard pitch with my pipes. As the pitch was between F and F# I chose F as the standard as at least it was a key that was reaso

[NSP] Re: re music for a funeral

2008-11-11 Thread rosspipes
Although Derwentwater's Farewell is an excellent to play as the mourners are coming in or going out at a funeral as well as playing for the committal, it is fraught with danger of squeaks when playing the lower notes on the chanter. Much safer to play The Rowan Tree which does not use the keys a

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-17 Thread BRIMOR
As you can probably well imagine this altering of names has occurred very frequently with immigrants whose names seemed quite unintelligible to the immigration authorities. A good friend told us the other day that his father and his 2 uncles (father's brothers) all arrived in New

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-17 Thread Bill Telfer
> variation usually >occurs through verbal propagation I'm sure this is true but there are also instances of deliberate spelling changes by educated literate people, the reasons for which seem obscure. Eg The engineer Thomas Telford born in 1757 for some unnaccountable reason changed his own nam

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-16 Thread colin
Original Message - From: "the Red Goblin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NSP group" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling Interesting - name spelling consistency seems to have been a remarkably variable thing anyway unti

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-16 Thread Julia . Say
On 16 Aug 2008, the Red Goblin wrote: > variation > usually occurs through verbal propagation - the hearer writing it down > as they think right and not necessarily correctly. >I've found several instances, mainly in > more rural communities, of census enumerators (apparently > insufficiently

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-16 Thread the Red Goblin
> Interesting - name spelling consistency seems to have been a remarkably > variable thing anyway until relatively recently. When did it generally > get standardised, I wonder? I know nothing of the politics here but if family research has taught me anything it's to keep an open mind. Just becaus

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-15 Thread Honor Hill
Is that as in Yorke-Withany? Honor Hill -Original Message- From: Richard York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:27 PM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] re-Tune title spelling Interesting - name spelling consistency seems to have been a remarkably variable thing anyway

[NSP] Re: re Winter Tunes

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Lawther
The school assembly I am playing in is a "holiday" celebration which is the way US schools get to cover Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa, and Eid al-Adha without offending anyone. Last year we were going to do the North Skelton dance but the school ended up closed due to a huge power cut but it wa

[NSP] Re: re reeds

2007-04-09 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Peter Dunn wrote: . Having examined the practices of Colin Ross, Richard Butler and John Liestman, I cannot find any great difference in science, but merely a difference in the subtleties of method which are to be expected in the work of any craftsman. > > Would a completely standardised reed b

[NSP] Re: re the written note

2006-11-07 Thread Julia . Say
On 7 Nov 2006, Gibbons, John wrote: > Read Clough on a proposed book of 'standard versions' of pipe tunes for > use in competitions. > Was this the precursor of the NPS first tune book? I don't think so - I think it was a suggestion by the Highland-pipe- trained early organisers of the NPS th

[NSP] Re: re the written note

2006-11-07 Thread Gibbons, John
If you look at the versions of 'Felton Lonnen' on FARNE, as well as in the Clough book, you will see that while written notes have served as a good record of the *performers'* different intentions, there is wide variation between them - it is a fallacy to believe that any one written version or any

[NSP] Re: re reply

2006-10-31 Thread Dines, Jim L.
S. site Subject: [NSP] Re: re reply in the same way that the Highland pipes are very suitable for the music they play, but let's be honest, they still remain a primitive, undeveloped instrument. Peter Dunn With all due respect, Peter, this popular view betrays a lack of understanding. Toda

[NSP] Re: re reply

2006-10-31 Thread John_Dally
in the same way that the Highland pipes are very suitable for the music they play, but let's be honest, they still remain a primitive, undeveloped instrument. Peter Dunn With all due respect, Peter, this popular view betrays a lack of understanding. Today you will find that from its synthet

[NSP] Re: re Sir P. and K.T.

2006-10-31 Thread Helen Capes
I really agree with you Maureen. Brilliant mailing. Push the boundaries but retain the roots! Helen - Original Message - From: "Maureen Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dartmouth N.P.S. site" Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: [NSP] re Sir P. and K.T. > Sunday, October 2

[NSP] Re: re reply

2006-10-30 Thread Colin
I think you are right BUT with reservations. It's not the music so much as the explanation of the instrument for those who are not familiar with it. Provided that it is not implied that this is the "tradition" then ok, anything goes. For those not familiar with the usual way and style of playing, t

[NSP] Re: re Sir P. and K.T.

2006-10-30 Thread Matthew Walton
On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 21:19 +, Maureen Davison wrote: > Great Highland bagpipes haven't been forced into changing form or repertoire > to become known from North Shields to Nepal, so it's a rather alarming > notion that NSPs should evolve into something capable of being played in > orchestras o

[NSP] Re: re Sir P. and K.T.

2006-10-30 Thread Chris Ormston
"it certainly wasn't to play Stranger on the Shore in preference to the Apprentice Lads of Alnwick!" Maureen Bugger! You found that clip on YouTube then :-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: re Sir P. and K.T.

2006-10-29 Thread Matthew Walton
I agree with you - I just don't think this was the piece which is going to make that breakthrough. Quite frankly, it wasn't good enough (although it was excellently performed by all musicians involved). On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 15:54 +, peter dunn wrote: > In all the comments made, I seem to be t

[NSP] Re: re DVD and Northumbrian pipes

2006-07-01 Thread Moore, Anne
ECTED] Sent: 30 June 2006 20:38 To: NSP Mailing List; Robert Smith Subject: [NSP] Re: re DVD and Northumbrian pipes This one which is for all regions ( http://www.bagpipediscs.travelingpiper.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=126 ) includes some NSP but I don't know how much. I

[NSP] Re: re DVD and Northumbrian pipes

2006-06-30 Thread Ian Lawther
This one which is for all regions ( http://www.bagpipediscs.travelingpiper.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=126 ) includes some NSP but I don't know how much. I don't know of any others currently available. Ian - Original Message - From: "Robert Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

[NSP] Re: re Matilda

2006-02-21 Thread Miguel Costa
Thanks for all your help lads, now I understand...17 versions..oh dear. By the way, I'm Portuguese, not spanish...I don't even speak the language. :-) Obrigado pela ajuda e pela informação, agora tenho muito mais material para trabalhar. Dezassete versões é muita fruta, caraças. ;-) Até à vista,

[NSP] Re: re Matilda

2006-02-21 Thread Matt Seattle
Miguel Mi bemol mayor, y no Do menor. Vale? Si, estoy seguro. go to- http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind type- waltzingmatilda click FIND there are 17 versions, they are not quite the way I know the tune but they will give you the right idea. You'll see it's in a major key. Hasta la

[NSP] Re: re Matilda

2006-02-21 Thread Miguel Costa
Are you sure about the key? I was assuming that the fourth line from the top was G (hence, A flat, B flat and E flat, as marked on the key = C minor). As for the possible transcription errors, it's possible, but I don't know the song. 2006/2/21, Matt Seattle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue Feb 21 10

[NSP] Re: re Matilda

2006-02-21 Thread Matt Seattle
On Tue Feb 21 10:39 , 'Miguel Costa' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: That link is to something very vclose to the STANDARD version of the song, it is NOT in C minor but E flat major, and the 2 bars 'marching down to Rochester' should be only 1 bar with half the note lengths. >And I have excellent ne

[NSP] Re: re "The recruiting Sergeant of Rochester"

2006-02-21 Thread Miguel Costa
Yes, the website has tons of information...it will take me some time to digest the whole thing. And I have excellent news: I found another site with a score for the Bold Fusilier with the EXACT key I need to play the song: C minor...which is the key of all my scores for Transmontana chanter (tuned

[NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing

2005-11-08 Thread Julia . Say
On 7 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am most > grateful to Julia and Adrian for including the metronome marking in the > "Billy Pig" > book. Er...well actually it was Colin who wanted to put these in. I was very much against it at the time, thinking it too prescriptive. They were

[NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing

2005-11-07 Thread Rosspipes
I have been trying to indicate the timings in all the new publications of the NPS as a guide based on my experience as a player for dancing over the years but these are only a guide as the nature of the tune is as important as its suitability for dancing in deciding on what tempo it should

[NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing

2005-11-07 Thread Gibbons, John
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2005 14:11 To: Gibbons, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing Yes, Hamish's talk was very interesting. Perhaps he could be persuaded to write an article for

[NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing

2005-11-07 Thread BRIMOR
Yes, Hamish's talk was very interesting. Perhaps he could be persuaded to write an article for the newsletter. What I found most interesting at a workshop on playing for dances, was the comment that you also bore the age of your dancers in mind. If the majority were elderly the music shoul

[NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing

2005-11-07 Thread BRIMOR
With reference to the speeds at which music should be played I am most grateful to Julia and Adrian for including the metronome marking in the "Billy Pig" book. Those of us not living in Northumberland do not have the advantage of having heard the repertoire played repeatedly at every session

[NSP] Re: re tunes and speeds of playing

2005-11-07 Thread Gibbons, John
The best way of getting an idea of what the different dance rhythms sound like is to listen to a recording - those of Joe Hutton, Will Atkinson and Willy Taylor have a good strong sense of rhythm, and they played for dancing for many years. Of course there is a lot of flexibility in speeds - for a