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2011-07-03 Thread smallpipes
Hi John The forum on the NPS web site is open to all (you just have to register) For some reason it is tucked away on the members page - I think that it should be on the front page! Currently things are a bit quiet but I hope that it will perk up once people try it and like it. It is

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2011-07-02 Thread davidsin
Hi Francis, I joined the NPS in 1991 as expat, the magazine was really the only contact I had with piping. Later the problems of payment caused so much hassle I left perhaps 10 years later. I joined the LBPS because they had payment by bankcard and they were more towards

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2011-07-01 Thread davidsin
Hi Antony, How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are interested but are not NPS members -- I like the hint of lilt in your playing - always have A regards Dave S Anthony Robb wrote: Hello John That's sounds great. It's exactly the

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2011-07-01 Thread barry07
(Suspicious voice) Hullo, Anyone there? I've got my tin hat on. Any incoming fire? (Normal voice) Attempts at humour on the internet are dangerous and generally misunderstood. I am the vile editor of the NPS Journal who changed the title of Anthony's article without his consent and I have

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2011-07-01 Thread Francis Wood
On 1 Jul 2011, at 20:39, david...@pt.lu wrote: How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are interested but are not NPS members Hi Dave, I think you've made quite a good case here for joining the NPS. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at

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2011-07-01 Thread smallpipes
And an even better case for posting it on the NPS forum (its open to non members) Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: On 1 Jul 2011, at 20:39, david...@pt.lu wrote: How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are interested but are not NPS members Hi

[NSP] Re: re-Tune of the Month

2011-05-24 Thread Francis Wood
On 24 May 2011, at 13:12, Richard York wrote: Love and piece indeed... did you have any particular piece in mind this month, Francis? Well, as a matter of fact, yes! The last 'piece' I played was 'Handel's Water Piece', a duet arrangement of Handels 2nd Water Music Suite (the Ouverture),

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread GibbonsSoinne
Brass is not gunmetal. With gunmetal, iron oxide forms a thin airtight layer for a while, protecting the metal underneath, at least till proper rust gets going. With brass, the same is not true for copper and its alloys. So corrosion doesn't prevent further corrosion.

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Bo Albrechtsen
Den 14-01-2011 21:39, [1]gibbonssoi...@aol.com skrev: ..snip With brass, the same is not true for copper and its alloys. So corrosion doesn't prevent further corrosion. Sorry, but I don't quite follow you there. Rust on iron or steel does not prevent further corrosion, but

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Colin
not). Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Bo Albrechtsen b...@glaipnir.dk To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?) Den 14-01-2011 21:39, [1]gibbonssoi...@aol.com skrev: ..snip With brass, the same

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Julia Say
On 14 Jan 2011, Colin wrote: Gold fittings won't tarnish (well, people have gold flutes so why not). There are gold-plated sets. The cost, in the current metals market, involves the phrase arm and a leg when compared to silver plate though. Gold plate is also applied much thinner than

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread Rick Damon
My SSP set is gold-plated (no keys) and looks as good as new 15 years on now. My NSP (only a few years old) is silver-plated and also looks as good as new. But the gold really stands out, so if you can afford the extra cost, it's really worthwhile! --Rick On Jan 14, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Julia

[NSP] Re: re-conditioning ... (dangers of brass tarnish?)

2011-01-14 Thread GibbonsSoinne
And gold is amazingly soft, so won't wear well. John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: [Re: Holy/Holey Halfpenny]

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Lawther
Gibbons, John wrote: Oddly 'Poll Hapenny', an Irish set dance, seems sometimes to appear as Holy Ha'penny (I'll check tonight in Breathnach); - I never thought of this as a personal name but assumed a reference to a 1/2d tax per head...maybe I have an odd way of thinking of

[NSP] Re: re chanter material.

2009-09-28 Thread rosspipes
Dear Peter, Tradition is the name of the game in instrument making where makers are sticking to well tried materials that they know will last two or three generations and will be an investment as with string instruments. When you start to mention computer aided design it is a mistake to think

[NSP] Re: re composing

2009-08-12 Thread amble skuse
the cliff car park at beer - devon written many a tune 2009/8/12 P DUNN [1]p.dun...@btinternet.com Thank you Richard for introducing a non-contentious topic!! Definitely whilst walking for me. I can recommend the walk from Lordenshaws car park to the forestry

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
or at least what I thought was the easy option and eventually came round full circle and did them (and still do them) in long hand. Thank you, Michael, for this info. I've always got the impression that all this Midi, Abc, Sibelius stuff is probably more laborious than long hand. You've

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Gretton
I've always got the impression that all this Midi, Abc, Sibelius stuff is probably more laborious than long hand. With all these programs, the laboriousness depends entirely on how practised you are. I know from experience that ABC allows you to enter stuff at great speed and the printed result

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ah yes, taking the plunge in the first place. Though, Michael Dillon said he has sucked them and seen. Maybe it's a personal temperament/aesthetic thing. Like fact that we're playing pipes and fiddles rather than synthesisers or riding choppers rather than Goldwings. Errr.sorry, could you

[NSP] Re: Re transposition

2009-08-03 Thread amble skuse
the other option is to memorise the tune and then try playing it but starting a note lower down, trusting your ears and fingers. you might not even need to write the tune out at all. 2009/8/3 christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu Ah yes, taking the plunge in the first place.

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread anthony
and listen again; you know it'll do you good. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 11/6/09, Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net wrote: From: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net Subject: [NSP] Re: re notes v. ear To: Dartmouth N.S.P. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 11

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread chris
I'm not an artist, but my wife is, and she swears by a book called Drawing on the right side of the brain. The premise is that the two halves of the brain work in different ways. The left side (and I may have got this garbled, correct me if I'm wrong) is analytical and logical, and the right side

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Richard York
When teaching an evening class on playing traditional music a while back, I was determined to get the dots only players to play by ear, visa versa too, so they all had the benefit of both techniques. Most seemed to find it useful. So after some weeks of working up to it, and following John

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Richard Evans
Philip Gruar wrote: Can I just say, with particular reference to Richard's last post, that I am in no way claiming any superiority for the classically-trained position. Reading my post again, it looks a bit as if I am. I didn't read that into it at all- it was just a comment by me on my own

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Anthony Robb
there. Anthony --- On Thu, 11/6/09, ch...@harris405.plus.com ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote: From: ch...@harris405.plus.com ch...@harris405.plus.com Subject: [NSP] Re: re notes v. ear To: Dartmouth N.S.P. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 8:03 AM I'm

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Matt Seattle
On 6/11/09, anth...@robbpipes.com anth...@robbpipes.com wrote:   When asked what the   third tune was, Robin said he hadn't a clue - he'd forgotten the tune   he was going to play and set off making a new tune up as he went along. This has happened on several occasions with Border

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Dave S
Richard Evans wrote: Philip Gruar wrote: I'm sure everybody with a so-called classical music training here (and jazz or whatever) - i.e. anyone for whom the purely mechanical act of reading written music is completely second nature, does the reading without consciously thinking about doing

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Gruar
Dave S wrote: No one has so far mention the fact that classical musicians usually have an ally waving a stick and hands giving them the colour, speeds and breathing life into the piece they are playing -- namely his interpretation of what the COMPOSER wished to convey from the dots, with all

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Here here! I was hesitating about saying exactly the same thing, only you put it better than I could. Cheers, Richard Philip Gruar wrote: I think Peter makes just the point here that I was going to make, when Anthony (I think) first started the debate. Also, Dick made very good points. The

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-10 Thread Philip Gruar
Can I just say, with particular reference to Richard's last post, that I am in no way claiming any superiority for the classically-trained position. Reading my post again, it looks a bit as if I am. I enormously admire all those who play mostly by ear. I think on the whole they are better

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2009-04-14 Thread Paul Gretton
David Baker wrote: Had it not been for certain groups of musicians breaking the rules because what resulted sounded good to them, the only style of trumpet playing would be baroque, and jazz would not exist (to give but one example). Hmmm...that is a very interesting take on the history of

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2009-04-14 Thread Christopher.Birch
I don't think it fair to call any style of playing any instrument 'incorrect' simply because it does not adhere rigidly to tradition. Here we go again! FWIW: I a) value the tradition (and the baroque) and b) agree wholeheartedly with the above statement. I play various instruments in

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2009-04-14 Thread Christopher.Birch
Do you think math teachers are unfair for calling answers wrong? I'm sorry, but this is frankly silly. Proving things write or rongue is what maths is about. Something may be wrong when playing a given style music (like playing jazz as if it was classical and vice versa) but describing a

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2009-04-14 Thread Paul Gretton
[mailto:christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu] Sent: 14 April 2009 10:51 To: davidthba...@googlemail.com; ch...@chrisormston.com Cc: rosspi...@aol.com; lisaridley6...@hotmail.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: I don't think it fair to call any style of playing any instrument 'incorrect

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2009-04-14 Thread Rick Damon
But Chris, we're not talking about styles at all. We're talking about something more simple than that, just learning to control the instrument. Or do you consider playing well a different style of playing than playing sloppily? Whether you play the traditional tunes or rock and roll is

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2009-04-13 Thread lisa ridley
Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list was a forum for self expression and discussion. I was not aware there was a required censorship in case the truth about these pretenders reaches the public domain. The Newcastle Journal is a publication with a weekly

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2009-04-13 Thread Paul Gretton
list Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list was a forum for self expression and discussion. I was not aware there was a required censorship in case the truth about these pretenders reaches the public domain. The Newcastle Journal

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Matt Seattle
On 4/13/09, Ian Lawther irlawt...@comcast.net wrote: ... Session A7 among many others. I think you mean Session A9 Ian. Session A7 is me and Bill Telfer, and we rock. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Re:

2009-04-13 Thread Ian Lawther
Matt Seattle wrote: I think you mean Session A9 Ian. Session A7 is me and Bill Telfer, and we rock My mistake Matt - but then you too are a kid from Kent (and more precisely I think you and Tim Edey are both native to the Planet Thanet) Ian To get on or off this list see list

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2009-04-13 Thread Matt Seattle
My mistake Matt - but then you too are a kid from Kent (and more precisely I think you and Tim Edey are both native to the Planet Thanet) 'Tis true, sir (along with Tracy Emin Edward Heath), though my genes are from elsewhere. As are my jeans. To get on or off this list see list

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2009-04-13 Thread colin
isn't aware of what should be done and what shouldn't. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: lisa ridley lisaridley6...@hotmail.com To: helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz; pipers list nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Apologies, I was under

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2009-04-13 Thread Francis Wood
Talent with even more trepidation than usual :-( Chris -Original Message- From: lisa ridley [mailto:lisaridley6...@hotmail.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 10:45 To: helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz; pipers list Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list

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2009-04-13 Thread rosspipes
lisaridley6...@hotmail.com To: i...@gretton-willems.com; pipers list nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:40 Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: No I do not - curiousity sattisfied? My thoughts and concerns lie with the ridicule facing Northumbrian piping and the child herself as a consequence

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2009-04-13 Thread Rick Damon
David, Are you also opposed to giving out grades in school, as it might traumatize or hinder the creativity of those who march to a different drummer? Do you think math teachers are unfair for calling answers wrong? --Rick On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:56 PM, David Baker wrote: Though I

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2009-04-13 Thread David Baker
] Sent: 13 April 2009 18:49 To: [4]lisaridley6...@hotmail.com Cc: [5]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Beware of the press. The same article had Katherine pictured in her usual langorous pose which even she might be getting a bit sick of by now. Whatever might

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2009-04-13 Thread Julia . Say
On 13 Apr 2009, Chris Ormston wrote: Andy May, Pauline Cato and I were discussing competitions at the Whitley Bay residential course last year, and we concluded that judging - a thankless task in the best of circumstances. Well I for one am extremely grateful for the positive and helpful

[NSP] Re: re written music

2009-03-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
With regard to the Tom Anderson quote, Never try to learn a tune you don't already know, as posted by Christopher Birch, Just for the record, I was referring to a previous posting by Colin Ross, in which he wrote: It has already attracted criticism from one of our pipers who is 'deeply

[NSP] Re: re manometer

2009-01-02 Thread John Liestman
This what I use and I have been quite happy with it. It's range covers that of most bagpipes of all types. http://www.hvactool.com/catalog.php3?hcategory=23hsubcat=198hpagenum=1hproductid=DWYER-61030 I am sure the same is available over there. Happy New Year, by the way!!! I celebrate it on

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Peter and others. I agree absolutely with your suggestion and would advocate the use of standard pitches only, whether D, F, F# or G. The course of instrumental pitch is a complex and controversial one. Unfortunately, the history of woodwind and brasswind making is plagued by

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Gretton
Francis (Wood) wrote: The course of instrumental pitch is a complex and controversial one. Indeed! For anyone seriously interested in this topic, there is now a fascinating book by Bruce Haynes: A History of Performing Pitch: The Story of A

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Richard York
I risk being shot down for ignorance, but is it not the case that the GHB's were traditionally a shade away from Bb concert pitch, and have now come to roost on Bb as such for similar reasons? ( I just wish they wouldn't play them alongside brass bands, which tend to have a different

[NSP] Re: re music for a funeral

2008-11-11 Thread rosspipes
Although Derwentwater's Farewell is an excellent to play as the mourners are coming in or going out at a funeral as well as playing for the committal, it is fraught with danger of squeaks when playing the lower notes on the chanter. Much safer to play The Rowan Tree which does not use the keys

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-17 Thread BRIMOR
As you can probably well imagine this altering of names has occurred very frequently with immigrants whose names seemed quite unintelligible to the immigration authorities. A good friend told us the other day that his father and his 2 uncles (father's brothers) all arrived in

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-16 Thread Julia . Say
On 16 Aug 2008, the Red Goblin wrote: variation usually occurs through verbal propagation - the hearer writing it down as they think right and not necessarily correctly. I've found several instances, mainly in more rural communities, of census enumerators (apparently insufficiently

[NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-16 Thread colin
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: re-Tune title spelling Interesting - name spelling consistency seems to have been a remarkably variable thing anyway until relatively recently. When did it generally get standardised, I wonder? I know nothing

[NSP] Re: re Winter Tunes

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Lawther
The school assembly I am playing in is a holiday celebration which is the way US schools get to cover Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa, and Eid al-Adha without offending anyone. Last year we were going to do the North Skelton dance but the school ended up closed due to a huge power cut but it was

[NSP] Re: re reeds

2007-04-09 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Peter Dunn wrote: . Having examined the practices of Colin Ross, Richard Butler and John Liestman, I cannot find any great difference in science, but merely a difference in the subtleties of method which are to be expected in the work of any craftsman. Would a completely standardised reed be

[NSP] Re: re Sir P. and K.T.

2006-10-31 Thread Helen Capes
I really agree with you Maureen. Brilliant mailing. Push the boundaries but retain the roots! Helen - Original Message - From: Maureen Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dartmouth N.P.S. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: [NSP] re Sir P. and K.T.

[NSP] Re: re reply

2006-10-31 Thread John_Dally
in the same way that the Highland pipes are very suitable for the music they play, but let's be honest, they still remain a primitive, undeveloped instrument. Peter Dunn With all due respect, Peter, this popular view betrays a lack of understanding. Today you will find that from its

[NSP] Re: re reply

2006-10-31 Thread Dines, Jim L.
: [NSP] Re: re reply in the same way that the Highland pipes are very suitable for the music they play, but let's be honest, they still remain a primitive, undeveloped instrument. Peter Dunn With all due respect, Peter, this popular view betrays a lack of understanding. Today you will find

[NSP] Re: re DVD and Northumbrian pipes

2006-07-01 Thread Moore, Anne
2006 20:38 To: NSP Mailing List; Robert Smith Subject: [NSP] Re: re DVD and Northumbrian pipes This one which is for all regions ( http://www.bagpipediscs.travelingpiper.com/product_info.php?cPath=24products_id=126 ) includes some NSP but I don't know how much. I don't know of any others

[NSP] Re: re DVD and Northumbrian pipes

2006-06-30 Thread Ian Lawther
This one which is for all regions ( http://www.bagpipediscs.travelingpiper.com/product_info.php?cPath=24products_id=126 ) includes some NSP but I don't know how much. I don't know of any others currently available. Ian - Original Message - From: Robert Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NSP