from:"tala...@fastmail.fm"

Just to note: all numbers in the body text are having their digits placed 
individually right-to-left. Notice, in the attached PDF, how the ١٤ is 
displayed as ٤١, and how ١٨٧٢ is ٢٧٨١ … but also the footnote marker is ٣١ 
instead of ١٣ as it correctly is below in the footnote itself.

Is there any temporary work around for this, until we sort out the underlying 
causes?

Talal



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 On 3 Aug 2015, at 16:19, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 8/3/2015 3:54 PM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I am having problems with the directionality of numbers and mirrored
 characters (like parentheses). When using bidi, the numbers are inverted
 (5102 instead of 2015); with the explicit commands, the mirrored
 characters are inverted as well.
 
 we have several approaches:
 
 the oldest method is based on some heuristics and targets at tex input in the 
 sense that we assume tagging and directional switches
 
 the other two are unicode bidi based (successive versions and there might be 
 more as that evolves)
 
 in any case, everything bidi / rl has to fit into some system and that's 
 something idris and i are working on (well, we did at some point but we need 
 to pick up that thread) ... so maybe you can trigger idris into onthology 
 mode and help him
 
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

I wonder whether anyone might have any thoughts about the below? Many thanks.

 On 21 Jul 2015, at 20:56, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 I’m reviving this old thread, as the problem appears to still exist. Consider 
 the following:
 
 \starttext \showframe
 
 \definenote[afootnote][rule={on,right},paragraph=no]
 
 \startalignment[r2l]
 Testing.\afootnote{This is footnote one.}
 Testing testing.\afootnote{This is footnote two.}
 Testing testing testing.\afootnote{This is footnote three.}
 \stopalignment
 
 \stoptext
 
 r2l.pdf
 
 In the output (r2l.pdf), the text runs from right to left as it should, and 
 the footnote reference numbers are in the right margin, as they should be.
 
 However, if we switch the option “paragraph” to “yes”, the entire frame no 
 longer runs r2l (see the output in r2l-yes.pdf).
 r2l-yes.pdf
 What I want is for the text to read as follows:
 .eerht etontoof si sihT 3  .owt etontoof si sihT 2  .eno etontoof si sihT 1
 
 where the entire frame begins at the right margin, such that the first 
 footnote number (1) is in the right margin, instead of in the left margin as 
 it is in r2l-yes.pdf. To say it another way, the entire footnote frame should 
 be r2l, regardless of its contents, perhaps (as Idris wrote to me) through 
 some hard direction switch for the entire frame.
 
 Best wishes,
 Talal

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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

Thank you, Pablo. This is indeed the problem: the individual elements — the 
notes — are correctly RTL, but the overall “paragraph” is ordering the elements 
LTR (with the additional caveat the footnote paragraph is not properly 
aligned/justified to the right margin either).

Best wishes,
Talal

 On 30 Jul 2015, at 15:26, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
 
 On 07/30/2015 03:00 PM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I wonder whether anyone might have any thoughts about the below? Many thanks.
 
 I wonder whether there is a bug somewhere in notes, because you may have
 r2l notations, but the notes paragraph is built l2r:
 
\setuppapersize[A6]
\starttext \showframe
 
\definenote[afootnote][rule={on,right}, paragraph=yes]
\definenotation[afootnote][align=r2l]
 
\startalignment[r2l]
Testing.\afootnote{This is footnote one.}
Testing testing.\afootnote{This is footnote two.}
Testing testing testing.\afootnote{This is footnote three.}
\stopalignment
 
\stoptext
 
 Just in case it might help,
 
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[NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

There seems to be some limitation (or bug) in right-to-left (r2l) alignment, 
when used alongside linenumbering. Consider the following:

 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \starttext \showframe
 
 \section{Incorrect}
 \startlinenumbering
 \startalignment[r2l]
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla.
 \stopalignment
 \stoplinenumbering
 
 \section{Correct}
 \startalignment[r2l]
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla.
 \stopalignment
 
 \stoptext

The RTL alignment works correctly on its own. However, when you introduce 
another factor — here,  linenumbers — the RTL alignment is ignored.

Perhaps this linked to the problem with of RTL footnotes being discussed here: 
gmane.comp.tex.context/92113 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/92113?

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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

2015-08-01 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm

Sorry to pester, but this problem is barring me from moving my book project into ConTeXt this weekend.The use of linenumbers seems to throw off the R2L mechanism. Example ofthe problem attached.

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On 30 Jul 2015, at 16:30, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:There seems to be some limitation (or bug) in right-to-left (r2l) alignment, when used alongside linenumbering. Consider the following:\setuppapersize[A6]\starttext \showframe\section{Incorrect}\startlinenumbering\startalignment[r2l]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie vel et nulla.\stopalignment\stoplinenumbering\section{Correct}\startalignment[r2l]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie vel et nulla.\stopalignment\stoptextThe RTL alignment works correctly on its own. However, whenyou introduce another factor — here, linenumbers — the RTL alignment is ignored.Perhaps this linked to the problem with of RTL footnotes being discussed here:gmane.comp.tex.context/92113?Best wishes,Talal___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-contextwebpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.netarchive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/wiki : http://contextgarden.net__
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

Thank you, Pablo, for bringing method=two to my attention. I’ve read what has 
been written about in on the mailing list. However, in my case, it does not 
solve the problem. On the document I’ve attached:
- using method=default produces the error I raised yesterday;
- using method=one (or method=two) seem to do nothing — the parentheses are 
still inversed, as if I hadn’t defined \setupdirections at all. See attached:



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Talal

 On 2 Aug 2015, at 08:52, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
 
 On 08/02/2015 12:36 AM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I’ve run into a hiccup. In the previous MWE that worked with Woflgang and
 Hans’ patch, the notes were footnotes. However, if make them into
 linenotes, we run into a strange problem: the first note is typeset
 correctly, but all the remaining linenotes in that stream are typeset on
 the bottom left corner of the page. See attached files.
 
 Hi Talal,
 
 I experienced this issue before (although r2l languages are all Greek to
 me :-().
 
 \setupdirections[bidi=global, method=two] seems to fix the problem.
 
 I hope it helps,
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

Thanks for that, Wolfgang. I can only hope that, as the culprit is known, it 
can be apprehended!

Idris: here is the document that I had sent (and many thanks to you and to 
Pablo for the more general advice):

  \unexpanded\def\doVariant#1#2#3%
   {\startlinenote[#1]{#2] #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}
 
\newcounter\countvariants
\unexpanded\def\variant
   {\doglobal\increment\countvariants
\normalexpanded{\doVariant{Varia:\countvariants}}}
 
 \setupalign[r2l]
 
 \showframe \starttext 
 
 \section{Correct}
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla. Morbi id justo vitae quam rhoncus tincidunt ut adipiscing nisi.
 
 \section{Incorrect}
 \startlinenumbering
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla. Morbi id justo vitae quam rhoncus tincidunt ut adipiscing nisi.
 \stoplinenumbering
 
 \stoptext

All the best,
Talal

 On 1 Aug 2015, at 19:47, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 tala...@fastmail.fm mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm 1. August 2015 17:37
 Sorry to pester, but this problem is barring me from moving my book project 
 into ConTeXt this weekend.
 
 The use of linenumbers seems to throw off the R2L mechanism. Example of the 
 problem attached. 
 
 
 The culprit is the function boxed.stage_two in page.lua which output each 
 text line in the line numbering
 environment in left to right mode. When you have justified lines everything 
 is fine but when you have a ragged
 line (e.g. the last line in a paragraph) ConTeXt aligns the context with the 
 left margin.
 
 \starttext \showframe
 
 \startalignment[righttoleft,flushleft]
 
 \input ward
 
 \blank
 
 \startlinenumbering
 \input ward
 \stoplinenumbering
 
 \stopalignment
 
 \stoptext
 
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

2015-08-01 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm

I’ve run into a hiccup. In the previous MWE that worked with Woflgang and Hans’ 
patch, the notes were footnotes. However, if make them into linenotes, we run 
into a strange problem: the first note is typeset correctly, but all the 
remaining linenotes in that stream are typeset on the bottom left corner of the 
page. See attached files.

Best wishes,
Talal



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 On 31 Jul 2015, at 12:07, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Excellent. This seems to solve the problem completely. I even tried mixing 
 Arabic and English text in the RTL footnotes, switched on the 
 “alternative=serried” option, and defined my own custom note streams — 
 everything worked very well. The only thing that didn’t work is to mix, in 
 the same stream, footnotes that are LTR with footnotes that are RTL. But I 
 did not expect this to work, and I cannot think of a real world scenario in 
 which such footnotes would/should be mixed in the same stream.
 
 Attached are both the .tex file and the PDF with a perfectly working example. 
 Many thanks to you both, Wolfgang and Hans. Hans, I assume we’ll know if the 
 patch eventually makes it into a beta? 
 
 Best,
 Talal
 
 RTL-paragraphed-footnotes.texRTL-paragraphed-footnotes.pdf
 
 On 31 Jul 2015, at 09:39, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 7/31/2015 1:51 AM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 You’re right. The patch gets us half way to the desired behaviour
 (namely, correct ordering of the footnotes within the paragraph). But it
 seems that the ‘paragraph’ option doesn’t play well with RTL generally,
 resulting in the second note disappearing when using
 \startsetups[note:footnote] \setupdirections[bidi=global] \stopsetups.
 
 can you try
 
 \unprotect
 
 \unexpanded\def\leftorrightvbox{\ifconditional\displaylefttoright\expandafter\lefttorightvbox\else\expandafter\righttoleftvbox\fi}
 
 \def\strc_notes_flush_global
 {\begingroup
  \useinterlinespaceparameter\noteparameter
  \doifelse{\noteparameter\c!paragraph}\v!yes
{\leftorrightvbox
   {\starthboxestohbox
 \iftrialtypesetting\unvcopy\else\unvbox\fi\currentnoteinsertionnumber
\stophboxestohbox}}
 {\iftrialtypesetting\unvcopied\else\unvboxed\fi\currentnoteinsertionnumber}%
  \endgroup}
 
 \protect
 
 
 On 30 Jul 2015, at 20:04, Wolfgang Schuster
 schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 tala...@fastmail.fm mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm
 30. Juli 2015 20:37
 I’ve come across a snag. When using parentheses in Arabic footnotes, they 
 are flipped. In any earlier email 
 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/91501/match=setupdirections+bidi+global),
  you had advised adding the following:
 
 \startsetups[note:footnote]
  \setupdirections[bidi=global]
 \stopsetups
 
 \setupnote[footnote][setups=note:footnote] % align=righttoleft
 However, if one does this with your patch, the second footnote gets 
 dropped. Here is the MWE:
 
 The second note disappears even without the patch, the problem this
 the paragraph option for the notes.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

Thank you very much for this, Idris. It works nicely in the sample file you 
sent. But it goes off again once you add \setupdirections[bidi=global]. 
Consider the following:

==
\setuppapersize[A6]
\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][%
features=arabic,
range=arabic,
]
\setupbodyfont [mainface]

\starttext \showframe
\setupdirections[bidi=global]

\setupthinrules[color=white]
\setupwhitespace[big]

\section{Incorrect}
\startlinenumbering
\startalignment[r2l]
هذه رسالة لطيفة ألفها العالم الكبير الفهامة النحرير.
هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفها الشيخ الفاضل...
\thinrule

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque molestie 
dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie vel et 
nulla.
\stopalignment
\stoplinenumbering

\section{Correct}
\startalignment[r2l]
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque molestie 
dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie vel et 
nulla.
\stopalignment

\stoptext
=

With many thanks, and salam,
Talal

 On 2 Aug 2015, at 12:51, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 
 idris.ha...@colostate.edu wrote:
 
 On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 03:24:12 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm tala...@fastmail.fm 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for that, Wolfgang. I can only hope that, as the culprit is known, it 
 can be apprehended!
 
 Talal, here is a barbarous workaround using \thinrule:
 
 ==
 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \starttext \showframe
 
 \setupthinrules[color=white]
 \setupwhitespace[big]
 
 \section{Incorrect}
 \startlinenumbering
 \startalignment[r2l]
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla.\thinrule
 
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla.
 \stopalignment
 \stoplinenumbering
 
 \section{Correct}
 \startalignment[r2l]
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Pellentesque 
 molestie dictum quam non congue. Integer ut dolor vel mi vestibulum molestie 
 vel et nulla.
 \stopalignment
 
 \stoptext
 ==
 
 This effectively hides the problem. Unfortunately it is apparently not 
 straightforward to invoke the \thinrule automatically at the end of every 
 paragraph [see the other thread with Alan].
 
 Best wishes
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

Thanks for the help, Pablo, but, unfortunately, this is not solvingthe problem (at least over here): The beginning of the third footnote/linenote is still missing. It should read (at the end of line one and at the beginning of line two of the notes):0 وهذهتعليقةThe end of line one is dropped. I have put an arrow on the attached PDF to demonstrate where it should be. (Of course, it is possible that our source tex files are slightly different?)Talal

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On 2 Aug 2015, at 11:47, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:On 08/02/2015 12:02 PM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:Apologies: While the problem remains, I realise now that using "method=one"or "method=two" wasn’t having any effect because I had forgotten to addthe option "align=righttoleft,” to "\setupnotations[lnote]”. Having doneso, adding the method options do have an effect. But the output is stillflawed; the beginning of the third note is missing at the end of thefirst line of the footnote, while its last few words can be seen on thesecond line of the footnote. See my new attachment (linenotes r2l 3,tex) below:Hi Talal,replace you bidi settings with this ones:\setupdirections[bidi=global, method=two]\startsetups[note:linenote] \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two,fences=yes]\stopsetups\setupalign[r2l]At least, they work for me.Pablo-- http://www.ousia.tk___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-contextwebpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.netarchive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/wiki : http://contextgarden.net__
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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

Thank you very much for this, Idris. What with the other bugs and problems I’ve
faced with R2L (in footnotes, etc.), I was starting to wonder whether a more
explicit, rather than global, use of RTL might be a better approach. I’m going
to experiment with them, at least to learn how to use them with greater focus.

The good news is that apparently Hans has already patched the page-lin.lua file
that Wolfgang had identified as the culprit, and it will be included in the
next beta.

Many thanks to you, Pablo, Wolfgang, and of course Hans so much for your help
in getting these right-to-left issues solved. There are a couple of small bidi
issues remaining, including that mentioned in the “footnotes when using RtL
(Arabic)” thread. The one or two other ones I will post shortly. But, in any
case, I have now completely moved my project over into ConTeXt, confident that
it (and the team behind it) can handle all of the needs of a multilingual
academic monograph and of a bi-direction, Arabic critical edition’s need

With many thanks,
Talal

On 2 Aug 2015, at 18:15, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
idris.ha...@colostate.edu wrote:

Dear Talal,
Salaam. See below:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 07:31:37 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm tala...@fastmail.fm
wrote:

Thank you very much for this, Idris. It works nicely in the sample file you
sent. But it goes off again once you add \setupdirections[bidi=global].
Consider the following:

==
snip

\setupdirections[bidi=global]

\setupthinrules[color=white]
\setupwhitespace[big]

\section{Incorrect}
\startlinenumbering
\startalignment[r2l]
هذه رسالة لطيفة ألفها العالم الكبير الفهامة النحرير.
هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفها الشيخ الفاضل...
\thinrule
===

You're right. \thinrule has LR unicode characters which is probably why it
gets thrown off. So if you turn off global bidi and then either 1) just go
with either global RL or 2) invoke RL inside the linenumbering it will work:

% \setupdirections[bidi=global]
\righttoleft %% global RL

or just

\startlinenumbering
\righttoleft %% local RL, not needed if global RL invoked
\startalignment[r2l]

Again, it's a barbarous (and temporary) workaround. See attached.

Wassalaam
Idris

PS Unless there is a lot of Latin in the critical edition file, I would
probably depend more on explicit dir commands (\righttolet, \lefttoright) and
less on bidi, which is still buggy in a number of ways. Beyond the ConTeXt
implementation: The unicode bidi algorithm was not designed with advanced
typesetting and typography in mind, works best for text-editing etc. per se.
so local bidi *may perhaps* be more useful than global bidi for the
critical-edition portion your project.

I'm not at all suggesting that this particular bug should not be a priority;
printing paragraph lines in a linenumbering environment *must* be
direction-agnostic. Just a matter of general strategy to consider.
--
Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO
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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

Hans, the beta is a solid step forward regarding bidi and Arabic support, and 
not just in footnotes. Thank you.

However, it appears that my earlier declarations of ‘problem solved’ were a bit 
premature.  Footnotes display everything correctly, but not linenumber notes. 
Using the three bidi methods of \setupdirections[bidi]:

- ‘default’ orders the linenumber notes and their texts right-to-left, but any 
number therein is reversed (4102 instead of 2014).

- ‘one’ does not render either the note block nor the individual notes' texts 
right-to-left.

- ‘two’ is identical to method ‘one’.

Compare these to regular footnotes, where everything is rendered correctly as 
of this new beta.

Below is a minimal example with resulting PDF output.

Talal

=
%%% LANGUAGE FONTS BIDI
\mainlanguage[arabic]   
\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [ALM Fixed] [range=arabic,features=arabic]
   
\setupbodyfont[mainface,11pt]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two,fences=no]
\setupalign[r2l]

%% HEADINGS
\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=arabicdecimals]

%%% NOTES

\definenote[footnote][% Used for my comments in English.
setups=note:footnote,
align=righttoleft,
rule={on,right},
paragraph=yes,
]

\setupnotations[footnote][%
align=righttoleft,
alternative=serried,
width=broad,
distance=.5em,
display=no,
numberconversion=arabicdecimals,
headstyle=\lefttoright,
]

\setuplinenumbering[%
style=\tfxx,
referencing=on,
step=1,
location=outer,
method=page,
align=left,
distance=1em,
width=0.4em,
conversion=arabicdecimals,
]

\definelinenote[linenotedefault][%
setups=note:linenotedefault,
align=righttoleft,
rule={on,right},
paragraph=yes,
]
\setupnotations[linenotedefault][% 
align=righttoleft,
alternative=serried,
width=broad,
distance=.5em,
display=no,
numberconversion=arabicdecimals,
headstyle=\lefttoright,
]

\definelinenote[linenoteone][%
setups=note:linenoteone,
align=righttoleft,
rule={on,right},
paragraph=yes,
]
\setupnotations[linenoteone][% 
align=righttoleft,
alternative=serried,
width=broad,
distance=.5em,
display=no,
numberconversion=arabicdecimals,
headstyle=\lefttoright,
]

\definelinenote[linenotetwo][%
setups=note:linenotetwo,
align=righttoleft,
rule={on,right},
paragraph=yes,
]
\setupnotations[linenotetwo][% 
align=righttoleft,
alternative=serried,
width=broad,
distance=.5em,
display=no,
numberconversion=arabicdecimals,
headstyle=\lefttoright,
]

\startsetups[note:footnote] 
\setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two,fences=no] 
\stopsetups

\startsetups[note:linenotedefault]
\setupdirections[bidi=on,method=default]
\stopsetups

\startsetups[note:linenoteone]
\setupdirections[bidi=on,method=one]
\stopsetups

\startsetups[note:linenotetwo]
\setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two] 
\stopsetups

%%% DOCUMENT

\starttext \showframe 

\startlinenumbering
\input ward\footnote{هذه تعليقة أولى كتبت عام ٢٠١٤.}
\input ward\footnote{هذه تعليقة ثانية (٢٠١٤).}
\input ward\linenotedefault{هذه تعليقة أولى كتبت عام ٢٠١٤.}
\input ward\linenotedefault{هذه تعليقة ثانية (٢٠١٤).}
\input ward\linenoteone{هذه تعليقة أولى كتبت عام ٢٠١٤.}
\input ward\linenoteone{هذه تعليقة ثانية (٢٠١٤).}
\input ward\linenotetwo{هذه تعليقة أولى كتبت عام ٢٠١٤.}
\input ward\linenotetwo{هذه تعليقة ثانية (٢٠١٤).}
\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext

\stoptext
=



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 On 3 Aug 2015, at 17:52, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Well, I don’t know if ‘solves’ the underlying questions that Hans wrote 
 about, but after some more fiddling, I now have all the numbers appearing as 
 I expect them to.
 
 It required specifying `method=two` as part of 
 `\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]`. That, along with the   
 `numbercommand=\righttoleft` in \setuphead[section], means that it now looks 
 as I expect it to.
 
 Unless someone identifies a problem with any of this, I think I’ll write up a 
 summary on the Wiki. Without trolling through the mailing list for anything 
 on RTL and then experimenting with the various combinations, it would be hard 
 for one to divine how to get this to work.
 
 For posterity’s sake, here is a full MWE example:
 
 ==
 %%% LANGUAGE AND FONTS
 \mainlanguage[arabic] 
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [ALM Fixed][range=arabic,features=arabic]   

 \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
 
 \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
 \setupalign[r2l]
 %\righttoleft
 
 %% HEADINGS
 
 \setuphead[section][
   conversion=myconversion,
   numbercommand=\righttoleft

Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

You’re right. The patch gets us half way to the desired behaviour (namely, 
correct ordering of the footnotes within the paragraph). But it seems that the 
‘paragraph’ option doesn’t play well with RTL generally, resulting in the 
second note disappearing when using \startsetups[note:footnote] 
\setupdirections[bidi=global] \stopsetups.

 On 30 Jul 2015, at 20:04, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 tala...@fastmail.fm mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm 30. Juli 2015 20:37
 I’ve come across a snag. When using parentheses in Arabic footnotes, they 
 are flipped. In any earlier email 
 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/91501/match=setupdirections+bidi+global
  
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/91501/match=setupdirections+bidi+global),
  you had advised adding the following:
 
 \startsetups[note:footnote]
   \setupdirections[bidi=global]
 \stopsetups
 
 \setupnote[footnote][setups=note:footnote] % align=righttoleft
 However, if one does this with your patch, the second footnote gets dropped. 
 Here is the MWE:
 
 The second note disappears even without the patch, the problem this the 
 paragraph option for the notes.
 
 Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

2015-08-05 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm

Dear all,

I am trying to create cross references between two documents in my project. 
Links between the two are successfully made, but the actual page numbers are 
not being printed (which, for my purposes, are what I actually need, not 
links). Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known bug (such that I should 
cease my attempts)? Is \useexternaldocument the wrong command for this purpose? 
Minimum example files below:

% project
\project project_xref
\startproduct prd_xref
\component xref1
\component xref2
\stopproduct

% product
\startproject project_xref
\environment env_xref
\product prd_xref
\stopproject

% environment
\startenvironment env_xref
\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]
\stopenvironment

% component1 [xref1]
\project project_xref
\startcomponent xref1
\starttext
\chapter[cross]{Cross referencing}
\chapter[lorem]{Lorem}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
\stoptext
\stopcomponent

% component2 [xref2]
\project project_xref
\startcomponent xref2
\useexternaldocument[xrf][xref1]
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit 
\in{Chapter}[xrf::lorem].
\stoptext
\stopcomponent

All the best,
Talal
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Re: [NTG-context] local environment?

2015-08-05 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm

Hans, just to clarify (as I’m still new to the language of ConTeXt): 
- By ‘style’ you mean environment?
- And by ‘common style’ you mean one, single environment document?
- Finally, by ‘this assumes that settings are not global’: what settings — the 
environment?

My apologies for the avalanche of questions.

 (1) set up a common style and then load specific ones for each part
 
 or
 
 (2) use grouping \start \component #1 \stop although this assumes that 
 settings are not global
 
 
 
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[NTG-context] local environment?

2015-08-04 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm

Dear all,

What is the replacement for `localenvironment` in project structures?

The first part of my book has one layout; the second has another. I have 
designed one environment for the first part, and another environment for the 
second. I do not want the first environment to be used for the second half of 
the book.

In cont-eni.pdf, I read about using `localenvironment` for such scenarios, but 
it seems this has been removed.

This is probably a very basic question, but how do I should change the 
following such that *one pdf* is produced, where the first part—ComponentA—uses 
EnvironmentA’s layout, while the second part—ComponentB—uses EnvironmentB's. If 
any startsetups need to be defined, I’d be grateful for any example, showing 
also where to place them.

# Product
\startproduct MyProduct
\component ComponentA
\component ComponentB
\stopproduct

# EnvironmentA
\startenvironment envA
% the definitions
\stopenvironment

# EnvironmentB
\startenvironment envB
% the definitions
\stopenvironment

# ComponentA
\environment envA
\product MyProduct
\startcomponent ComponentA
\starttext
…
\stoptext

# ComponentB
\environment envB
\product MyProduct
\startcomponent ComponentA
\starttext
…
\stoptext

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With thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

Well, I don’t know if ‘solves’ the underlying questions that Hans wrote about, 
but after some more fiddling, I now have all the numbers appearing as I expect 
them to.

It required specifying `method=two` as part of 
`\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]`. That, along with the 
`numbercommand=\righttoleft` in \setuphead[section], means that it now looks as 
I expect it to.

Unless someone identifies a problem with any of this, I think I’ll write up a 
summary on the Wiki. Without trolling through the mailing list for anything on 
RTL and then experimenting with the various combinations, it would be hard for 
one to divine how to get this to work.

For posterity’s sake, here is a full MWE example:

==
%%% LANGUAGE AND FONTS
\mainlanguage[arabic]   
\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [ALM Fixed][range=arabic,features=arabic] 
   
\setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
\setupalign[r2l]
%\righttoleft

%% HEADINGS

\setuphead[section][
conversion=myconversion,
numbercommand=\righttoleft, % -- toggle
]
\setuplinenumbering[conversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[footnote][numberconversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[linenote][numberconversion=myconversion]
\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=myconversion]

\defineconversion
[myconversion]
[١,٢,٣,٤,٥,٦,٧,٨,٩,١٠,
١١,١٢,١٣,١٤,١٥,١٦,١٧,١٨,١٩,٢٠,
۲۱,۲۲,۲۳,۲٤,۲٥,۲٦,۲۷,۲۸,۲۹,۳۰,
٣١,٣٢,٣٣,٣٤,٣٥,٣٦,٣٧,٣٨,٣٩,٤٠,
٤١,٤٢,٤٣,٤٤,٤٥,٤٦,٤٧,٤٨,٤٩,٥٠,
٥١,٥٢,٥٣,٥٤,٥٥,٥٦,٥٧,٥٨,٥٩,٦٠,
٦١,٦٢,٦٣,٦٤,٦٥,٦٦,٦٧,٦٨,٦٩,٧٠,
٧١,٧٢,٧٣,٧٤,٧٥,٧٦,٧٧,٧٨,٧٩,٨٠,
٨١,٨٢,٨٣,٨٤,٨٥,٨٦,٨٧,٨٨,٨٩,٩٠,
٩١,٩٢,٩٣,٩٤,٩٥,٩٦,٩٧,٩٨,٩٩,١٠٠,
١٠١,١٠٢,١٠٣,١٠٤,١٠٥,١٠٦,١٠٧,١٠٨,١٠٩,١١٠,
١١١,١١٢,١١٣,١١٤,١١٥,١١٦,١١٧,١١٨,١١٩,١٢٠,
١٢١,١٢٢,١٢٣,١٢٤,١٢٥,١٢٦,١٢٧,١٢٨,١٢٩,١٣٠,
١٣١,١٣٢,١٣٣,١٣٤,١٣٥,١٣٦,١٣٧,١٣٨,١٣٩,١١٣٠,
١٤١,١٤٢,١٤٣,١٤٤,١٤٥,١٤٦,١٤٧,١٤٨,١٤٩,١٥٠,
١٥١,١٥٢,١٥٣,١٥٤,١٥٥,١٥٦,١٥٧,١٥٨,١٥٩,١٦٠,
١٦١,١٦٢,١٦٣,١٦٤,١٦٥,١٦٦,١٦٧,١٦٨,١٦٩,١٧٠,
١٧١,١٧٢,١٧٣,١٧٤,١٧٥,١٧٦,١٧٧,١٧٨,١٧٩,١٨٠,
١٨١,١٨٢,١٨٣,١٨٤,١٨٥,١٨٦,١٨٧,١٨٨,١٨٩,١٩٠,
١٩١,١٩٢,١٩٣,١٩٤,١٩٥,١٩٦,١٩٧,١٩٨,١٩٩,٢٠٠,
٢٠١,٢٠٢,٢٠٣,٢٠٤,٢٠٥,٢٠٦,٢٠٧,٢٠٨,٢٠٩,٢١٠,
٢١١,٢١٢,٢١٣,٢١٤,٢١٥,٢١٦,٢١٧,٢١٨,٢١٩,٢٢٠,
٢٢١,٢٢٢,٢٢٣,٢٢٤,٢٢٥,٢٢٦,٢٢٧,٢٢٨,٢٢٩,٢٣٠,
٢٣١,٢٣٢,٢٣٣,٢٣٤,٢٣٥,٢٣٦,٢٣٧,٢٣٨,٢٣٩,٢٢٣٠,
٢٤١,٢٤٢,٢٤٣,٢٤٤,٢٤٥,٢٤٦,٢٤٧,٢٤٨,٢٤٩,٢٥٠,
٢٥١,٢٥٢,٢٥٣,٢٥٤,٢٥٥,٢٥٦,٢٥٧,٢٥٨,٢٥٩,٢٦٠,
٢٦١,٢٦٢,٢٦٣,٢٦٤,٢٦٥,٢٦٦,٢٦٧,٢٦٨,٢٦٩,٢٧٠,
٢٧١,٢٧٢,٢٧٣,٢٧٤,٢٧٥,٢٧٦,٢٧٧,٢٧٨,٢٧٩,٢٨٠,
٢٨١,٢٨٢,٢٨٣,٢٨٤,٢٨٥,٢٨٦,٢٨٧,٢٨٨,٢٨٩,٢٩٠,
٢٩١,٢٩٢,٢٩٣,٢٩٤,٢٩٥,٢٩٦,٢٩٧,٢٩٨,٢٩٩,٣٠٠,
]

%%% DOCUMENT

\starttext \showframe 

\section{section one}

\startlinenumbering
\input tufte
\input tufte
\stoplinenumbering

\dorecurse{20}{
\section{محمد الجمل (١٨٧٢—١٩٢٣)}
مرحباً باعالم . ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم. ولد عام ١٩٣٤.
\footnote{تعليقة لطيفة.}
\pagebreak
}

\stoptext
==

Best wishes,
Talal

 On 3 Aug 2015, at 17:29, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Just to note: all numbers in the body text are having their digits placed 
 individually right-to-left. Notice, in the attached PDF, how the ١٤ is 
 displayed as ٤١, and how ١٨٧٢ is ٢٧٨١ … but also the footnote marker is ٣١ 
 instead of ١٣ as it correctly is below in the footnote itself.
 
 Is there any temporary work around for this, until we sort out the underlying 
 causes?
 
 Talal
 
 PastedGraphic-1.pdf
 On 3 Aug 2015, at 16:19, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 8/3/2015 3:54 PM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I am having problems with the directionality of numbers and mirrored
 characters (like parentheses). When using bidi, the numbers are inverted
 (5102 instead of 2015); with the explicit commands, the mirrored
 characters are inverted as well.
 
 we have several approaches:
 
 the oldest method is based on some heuristics and targets at tex input in 
 the sense that we assume tagging and directional switches
 
 the other two are unicode bidi based (successive versions and there might be 
 more as that evolves)
 
 in any case, everything bidi / rl has to fit into some system and that's 
 something idris and i are working on (well, we did at some point but we need 
 to pick up that thread) ... so maybe you can trigger idris into onthology 
 mode and help him
 
 Hans
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

In a separate thread ("r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?"), we've gotten numerals in an Arabic RTL document to (a) display as Arabic numerals, and (b) to order their digits in the right order (e.g. 2015 instead of 5102). By defining the headstyle of linenotes, we can even get linenotes to display the digits within individual numbers in the correct order (see below).However, when there is a line range in the linenote head, it is flipping the order of the page ranges. In the example PDF attached below, where it should read ١٥-١٦ (16-15, with the fifteen on the right and the sixteen on the left, for R2L word ordering), instead the output is ١٦-١٥.This seems to be a further example of the problems arising from not being able to apply bidi to the linenote stream, due to the bug or conflict between footnotes/linenotes and R2L. In the minimal example below, I have commented out the \startsetups[note:linenote]. The lines may be toggled to see the effect it has.=\mainlanguage[arabic]	\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [ALM Fixed] [range=arabic,features=arabic]\setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]\setupalign[r2l]%% CONVERSION INTO ARABIC-HINDI NUMERALS\defineconversion[myconversion][١,٢,٣,٤,٥,٦,٧,٨,٩,١٠,١١,١٢,١٣,١٤,١٥,١٦,١٧,١٨,١٩,٢٠,]%% HEADINGS\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=myconversion]%%%	LINENUMBERING\setuplinenumbering[%	style=\tfxx,	referencing=on,	step=1,	location=outer,	method=page,	align=left,	distance=1em,	width=0.4em,	conversion=myconversion,	]\definelinenote[linenote][%	setups=note:linenote,	before={\blank[3.2em]},	align=righttoleft,	rule={on,right},	paragraph=yes,	frame=on,framecolor=red,	]\setupnotations[linenote][%	align=righttoleft,	alternative=serried,	width=broad,	distance=.5em,	display=no,	numberconversion=arabic-hindi,	headstyle=\lefttoright,	]\unexpanded\def\doVariant#1#2#3%{\startlinenote[#1]{#2[ #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}\newcounter\countvariants\unexpanded\def\variant{\doglobal\increment\countvariants\normalexpanded{\doVariant{Varia:\countvariants}}}%%% DOCUMENT%\startsetups[note:linenote]%	\setupdirections[bidi=on,method=default,fences=no]%\stopsetups\starttext \showframe\startlinenumbering\input ward\linenote{هذه تعليقة أولى.}\input ward\linenote{هذه تعليقة ثانية.}\input ward\linenote{هذه تعليقة ثالثة.}مرحباً بالعالم مرحباً بالعالم مرحباً بالعالم . هذا مثال على استعمال كونتكست لأجل تحقيق المخطوطات في اللغة العربية . وقد قربنا من\variant{الوصول إلى الحلول}{الحصول على الحلول}التي نحتاجها لتصميم الخطوط التي تكتب من اليمين إلى الشمال .\linenote{هذه تعليقة خامسة.}\stoplinenumbering\stoptext=

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Best,TalalOn 2 Aug 2015, at 12:11, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:On 08/02/2015 12:47 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:[...]Hi Talal,replace you bidi settings with these ones:[...]At least, they work for me.Talal,sorry for the noise, the first linenote has the problem you described.I thought it belonged to the second linenote.Pablo-- http://www.ousia.tk___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-contextwebpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.netarchive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/wiki : http://contextgarden.net__
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

Never mind. After more word combinations when searching the archives, I came 
across Wolfgang’s answer here: gmane.comp.tex.context/85673 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/85673, in which he says to 
use the \defineconversion command. E.g.:

\defineconversion
  [myconversion]
  [۱,۲,۳,۴,۵,۶,۷,۸,۹,۱۰,
   ۱۱,۱۲,۱۳,۱۴,۱۵,۱۶,۱۷,۱۸,۱۹,۲۰,
   ۲۱,۲۲,۲۳,۲۴,۲۵,۲۶,۲۷,۲۸,۲۹,۳۰]

\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=myconversion]

Of course, one can add the same to setups for the other matters as well:

\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject][conversion=myconversion]
\setuplinenumbering[conversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[footnote][numberconversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[linenote][numberconversion=myconversion]
etc.

This actually provides lots of flexibility, as you can fine-tune various 
footnote streams by assigning different scripts, etc.

Talal


 On 3 Aug 2015, at 00:32, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), 
 how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as 
 headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of 
 Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or 
 “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining 
 the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” 
 would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers 
 of that script.
 
 Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they 
 appear correctly. MWE below.
 
 Best wishes,
 Talal
 
 =
 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \mainlanguage[arabic]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
 \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
 
 \starttext \showframe
 \righttoleft
 
 %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
 
 \section{section one}
 \startlinenumbering
 \input ward 
 \stoplinenumbering
 \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section 
 number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}
 
 \section{section two}
 مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
 \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

Dear all,

When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), how 
does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as 
headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of 
Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or 
“Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining the 
font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” would 
have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers of that 
script.

Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they appear 
correctly. MWE below.

Best wishes,
Talal

=
\setuppapersize[A6]
\mainlanguage[arabic]
\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
\setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]

\starttext \showframe
\righttoleft

%\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]

\section{section one}
\startlinenumbering
\input ward 
\stoplinenumbering
\footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section 
number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}

\section{section two}
مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

Thank you for that, Idris. I had tried those earlier, but both of them gave me 
not digits but the Arabic equivalents of roman numerals — letters, used in the 
Arabic language, to denote enumeration (as you know). In fact, I have now 
settled on using those for my front matter in the Arabic critical edition. In 
fact, now that you mention them both, it seems to me that they produce the same 
out put: ا ب ج د ه و ز … which I would expect from abjadnumerals but not from 
arabicnumerals. Perhaps there is a bug?

But, in any case, the solution of Wolfgang solves my immediate problem. It 
would, of course, be nice not to have had to type out many lines of numbers 
(the Arabic edition has more than 250 sections, i.e. entries), and to have this 
automated when declaring the main language to be Arabic, for example. But it is 
a small price to pay for the flexible functionality. 

All the best, and salam,
Talal

 On 3 Aug 2015, at 03:04, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 
 idris.ha...@colostate.edu wrote:
 
 Salaam, Talal,
 See below:
 
 On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:32:44 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm 
 mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm tala...@fastmail.fm 
 mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), 
 how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as 
 headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of 
 Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or 
 “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining 
 the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” 
 would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers 
 of that script.
 
 I'm on the move, but try these keys in the appropriate structure commands:
 
 numberconversion=arabicnumerals
 numberconversion=abjadnumerals
 
 Failing that, a workaround is to use the m-translate module, and define a 
 translation for each the ten digits. But numberconversion=arabicnumerals is 
 supposed to work.
 
 Wassalaam
 Idris
 
 PS \start-stopsection is now standard (\section is still there, but...)
 
 
 Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they 
 appear correctly. MWE below.
 
 Best wishes,
 Talal
 
 =
 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \mainlanguage[arabic]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
 \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
 
 \starttext \showframe
 \righttoleft
 
 %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
 
 \section{section one}
 \startlinenumbering
 \input ward
 \stoplinenumbering
 \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section 
 number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}
 
 \section{section two}
 مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
 \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] r2l alignment and linenumbering conflict?

I am having problems with the directionality of numbers and mirrored characters (like parentheses). When using bidi, the numbers are inverted (5102 instead of 2015); with the explicit commands, the mirrored characters are inverted as well.For reasons I think I understand, this is only happening in the text: the problem occurs with numbers in headings (chapters, etc.), and likewise in the main of the text. The digits of footnotes, linemargin numbers, and page numbers are correctly arranged.I have learnt that if I add the option [numbercommand=\lefttoright] to \setuphead[section], I can get the digits in the section number to be in the right order. But this does not address the problem of other numbers in the text.How do I solve this? I am happy to abandon the conveniences of bidi, as Idris suggests might be needed (see below), but it didn’t get any easier when trying to do it manually. See MWE below.With thanks,Talalp.s. The Wiki page on "Arabic and Hebrew" is out of date, instructing the use of\setcharactermirroring[1]which is clearly deprecated now in favour of \setupdirections[bidi=global]. I am happy to update the wiki page once I get my head around things. Does anybody have an authoritative list of the various commands related to right-to-left, as well as what combinations are not needed (e.g. are \setupalign[r2l] and \righttoleft overlapping, or do they play different roles)?%%% LANGUAGE AND FONTS\mainlanguage[arabic]	\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [ALM Fixed][range=arabic,features=arabic]	 \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]%\setupdirections[bidi=global]\setupalign[r2l]%\righttoleft%% HEADINGS\setuphead[chapter,section][	conversion=myconversion,%	numbercommand=\lefttoright % -- toggle	]\setuplinenumbering[conversion=myconversion]\setupnotations[footnote][numberconversion=myconversion]\setupnotations[linenote][numberconversion=myconversion]\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=myconversion]\defineconversion	[myconversion]	[١,٢,٣,٤,٥,٦,٧,٨,٩,١٠,	١١,١٢,١٣,١٤,١٥,١٦,١٧,١٨,١٩,٢٠,	۲۱,۲۲,۲۳,۲٤,۲٥,۲٦,۲۷,۲۸,۲۹,۳۰,	٣١,٣٢,٣٣,٣٤,٣٥,٣٦,٣٧,٣٨,٣٩,٤٠,	٤١,٤٢,٤٣,٤٤,٤٥,٤٦,٤٧,٤٨,٤٩,٥٠,	٥١,٥٢,٥٣,٥٤,٥٥,٥٦,٥٧,٥٨,٥٩,٦٠,	٦١,٦٢,٦٣,٦٤,٦٥,٦٦,٦٧,٦٨,٦٩,٧٠,	٧١,٧٢,٧٣,٧٤,٧٥,٧٦,٧٧,٧٨,٧٩,٨٠,	٨١,٨٢,٨٣,٨٤,٨٥,٨٦,٨٧,٨٨,٨٩,٩٠,	٩١,٩٢,٩٣,٩٤,٩٥,٩٦,٩٧,٩٨,٩٩,١٠٠,	١٠١,١٠٢,١٠٣,١٠٤,١٠٥,١٠٦,١٠٧,١٠٨,١٠٩,١١٠,	١١١,١١٢,١١٣,١١٤,١١٥,١١٦,١١٧,١١٨,١١٩,١٢٠,	١٢١,١٢٢,١٢٣,١٢٤,١٢٥,١٢٦,١٢٧,١٢٨,١٢٩,١٣٠,	١٣١,١٣٢,١٣٣,١٣٤,١٣٥,١٣٦,١٣٧,١٣٨,١٣٩,١١٣٠,	١٤١,١٤٢,١٤٣,١٤٤,١٤٥,١٤٦,١٤٧,١٤٨,١٤٩,١٥٠,	١٥١,١٥٢,١٥٣,١٥٤,١٥٥,١٥٦,١٥٧,١٥٨,١٥٩,١٦٠,	١٦١,١٦٢,١٦٣,١٦٤,١٦٥,١٦٦,١٦٧,١٦٨,١٦٩,١٧٠,	١٧١,١٧٢,١٧٣,١٧٤,١٧٥,١٧٦,١٧٧,١٧٨,١٧٩,١٨٠,	١٨١,١٨٢,١٨٣,١٨٤,١٨٥,١٨٦,١٨٧,١٨٨,١٨٩,١٩٠,	١٩١,١٩٢,١٩٣,١٩٤,١٩٥,١٩٦,١٩٧,١٩٨,١٩٩,٢٠٠,	٢٠١,٢٠٢,٢٠٣,٢٠٤,٢٠٥,٢٠٦,٢٠٧,٢٠٨,٢٠٩,٢١٠,	٢١١,٢١٢,٢١٣,٢١٤,٢١٥,٢١٦,٢١٧,٢١٨,٢١٩,٢٢٠,	٢٢١,٢٢٢,٢٢٣,٢٢٤,٢٢٥,٢٢٦,٢٢٧,٢٢٨,٢٢٩,٢٣٠,	٢٣١,٢٣٢,٢٣٣,٢٣٤,٢٣٥,٢٣٦,٢٣٧,٢٣٨,٢٣٩,٢٢٣٠,	٢٤١,٢٤٢,٢٤٣,٢٤٤,٢٤٥,٢٤٦,٢٤٧,٢٤٨,٢٤٩,٢٥٠,	٢٥١,٢٥٢,٢٥٣,٢٥٤,٢٥٥,٢٥٦,٢٥٧,٢٥٨,٢٥٩,٢٦٠,	٢٦١,٢٦٢,٢٦٣,٢٦٤,٢٦٥,٢٦٦,٢٦٧,٢٦٨,٢٦٩,٢٧٠,	٢٧١,٢٧٢,٢٧٣,٢٧٤,٢٧٥,٢٧٦,٢٧٧,٢٧٨,٢٧٩,٢٨٠,	٢٨١,٢٨٢,٢٨٣,٢٨٤,٢٨٥,٢٨٦,٢٨٧,٢٨٨,٢٨٩,٢٩٠,	٢٩١,٢٩٢,٢٩٣,٢٩٤,٢٩٥,٢٩٦,٢٩٧,٢٩٨,٢٩٩,٣٠٠,]%%% DOCUMENT\starttext \showframe\section{section one}\startlinenumbering\input tufte\input tufte\stoplinenumbering\dorecurse{20}{\section{محمد الجمل (١٨٧٢—١٩٢٣)}	مرحباً باعالم . ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم. ولد عام١٩٣٤.\footnote{تعليقة لطيفة.}\pagebreak}\stoptext=

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On 2 Aug 2015, at 18:15, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد idris.ha...@colostate.edu wrote:Dear Talal,Salaam. See below:On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 07:31:37 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:Thank you very much for this, Idris. It works nicely in the sample file you sent. But it goes off again once you add \setupdirections[bidi=global]. Consider the following:==snip\setupdirections[bidi=global]\setupthinrules[color=white]\setupwhitespace[big]\section{Incorrect}\startlinenumbering\startalignment[r2l]هذه رسالة لطيفة ألفها العالم الكبير الفهامة النحرير.هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفها الشيخ الفاضل...\thinrule===You're right. \thinrule has LR unicode characters which is probably why it gets thrown off. So if you turn off global bidi and then either 1) just go with either global RL or 2) invoke RL inside the linenumbering it will work:% \setupdirections[bidi=global]\righttoleft %% global RLor just\startlinenumbering\righttoleft %% local RL, not needed if global RL invoked\startalignment[r2l]Again, it's a barbarous (and temporary) workaround. See attached.WassalaamIdrisPS Unless there is a lot of Latin in the critical edition file, I would probably depend more on explicit dir commands (\righttolet, \lefttoright) and less on bidi, which is still buggy in a number of ways. Beyond the ConTeXt implementation: The unicode bidi algorithm was not designed with advanced typesetting and typography in mind, works best for text-editing etc. per se. so local bidi *may perhaps* be more useful than global bidi for the critical-edition portion your p

Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)

Indeed, that seems to do the trick, Wolfgang.

 On 30 Jul 2015, at 18:54, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Pablo Rodriguez mailto:oi...@gmx.es30. Juli 2015 16:26
 
 I wonder whether there is a bug somewhere in notes, because you may have
 r2l notations, but the notes paragraph is built l2r:
 
 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \starttext \showframe
 
 \definenote[afootnote][rule={on,right}, paragraph=yes]
 \definenotation[afootnote][align=r2l]
 
 \startalignment[r2l]
 Testing.\afootnote{This is footnote one.}
 Testing testing.\afootnote{This is footnote two.}
 Testing testing testing.\afootnote{This is footnote three.}
 \stopalignment
 
 \stoptext
 Can you test the following patch.
 
 \unprotect
 
 \def\strc_notes_flush_global
   {\begingroup
\useinterlinespaceparameter\noteparameter
\doifelse{\noteparameter\c!paragraph}\v!yes
  {%\vbox\starthboxestohbox
   \vbox\ifconditional\displaylefttoright \else dir TRT 
 \fi\starthboxestohbox
 \iftrialtypesetting\unvcopy\else\unvbox\fi\currentnoteinsertionnumber
   \stophboxestohbox}
  
 {\iftrialtypesetting\unvcopied\else\unvboxed\fi\currentnoteinsertionnumber}%
\endgroup}
 
 \protect
 
 %\setupalign[righttoleft]
 
 \setupnote[footnote][paragraph=yes,align=righttoleft]
 \setupnotation[footnote][align=righttoleft]
 
 \showframe
 
 \starttext
 
 First note.\footnote{This is the first footnote.}
 Second note.\footnote{This is the second footnote.}
 
 \stoptext
 
 Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes when using RtL (Arabic)