The SF-Earthlink deal falls apart like a rotten souffle.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/06/san-francisco-pulls-the-plug-on-google-earthlinks-citywide-wi/
What's the sensible alternative? Give it a shot. 25 words or less.
Here's mine:
* City planning meets network experts NOT SUITS.
* Bond
Earthlink tries some clever spin but it's their own fault for acting like they
could provide this service. Totally wrong partner. I wonder what if they're
now going to try to put the screws to New Orleans...
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http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=4183catid=4volume_id=254issue_id=308volume_num=41issue_num=44
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From: Rob Kelley
Sent: Thu 8/2/2007 3:28 PM
To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: SF Guardian: Say Goodbye to Earthlink
Earthlink tries some clever spin
Um, wow...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/05/technology/circuits/05pogue.html?emex=1183780800en=9b1df670af399cecei=5087%0A
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Hmm. Another suggestion about how to get off copper. How feasible is this?
http://voxilla.com/soapvox/2007/06/08/covad-goes-the-last-mile-219
snip
When youre the only national DSL network in the U.S. what do you do for your
next act?
You disintermediate the copper wire. In plain English,
Now that's well put. The state of US fraudband: An Out of Control Spiral of
Disinvestment
Now on Reddit: http://reddit.com/info/1sm8m/comments/c1sm91?context=5
and Digg:
http://digg.com/tech_news/Municipal_Broadband_Takes_On_The_Internet_Cartel
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It seems to be an OpenWRT variant.
http://blog.fon.com/en/archive/general/la-fonera-source-code.html
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We're trying to put together some wardriving kits for an upcoming
wardrive of Manhattan, and we're looking for gear.
Does anyone have any of the following they can donate temporarily or
permanently?
* Garmin Metrix Legend
* Orinoco Gold PCMCIA card
* pigtail for Orinoco
* cartop
A bumper crop of links in this Mobile Wireless story. Lucky mag is
trying out text-message shopping in its July and August issues.
http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5603
More interesting to me is http://unthirsty.com, a simple google mashup
that'll tell you what
A bumper crop of links in this Mobile Wireless story. Lucky mag is
trying out text-message shopping in its July and August issues.
http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5603
More interesting to me is http://unthirsty.com, a simple google mashup
that'll tell you what
From Wi-Fi Planet --
[http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/news/article.php/3618706 ]
Wireless for NYC has Class
By Eric Griffith
July 7, 2006
Unlike a lot of big cities like San Francisco and
Philadelphia, New York City is taking a measured approach to
installing Wi-Fi. Reports this week in Newsday
What kind of press release can we do for MSP that builds on and
distinguishes itself from these releases?
R
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/nyregion/07wifi.html
[dead tree version: B2]
July 7, 2006
New York to Examine Creating Citywide Broadband Network
By SEWELL CHAN
Even as a
I'm happy to see someone else pointing out.
When I first read the article I thought what the heck are they
announcing?. It'd be nice to have some sort of measurement for the
level and density of a wireless rollout. Especially for cities. I
mean, is it one-AP per block or per zip code?
I
Via Slashdot, EU gets behind Internet for All:
http://news.com.com/Web+accessibility+soon+mandatory+in+Europe/2100-1036_3-6084113.html?tag=st_lh
Man, being behind South Korea is one thing, but the Old World? Oh the
irony...
it looks like World Cup Soccer isn't the only thing we're losing at...
Company says an advertising model won't be financially sustainable.
Hmmm, Google says it will. Opinions?
From dailywireless.org:
[http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5519 ]
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IMHO an advertising model is financially viable--it's just more risky
for small players. In a subscription model, your users are right in
front you; in an advertising model, you have to go out and get them.
That may require deep pockets--like Google's.
Rob
Klaus Ernst moblogs home:
Hi,
here's the solar1 wi-fi pic. Taken with selftimer.
I'm using a HP h2215 with a Linksys 54g CF card.
I'll check out Brooklyn Bridge Park soon.
Regards,
Klaus Ernst
[http://nycwireless.net/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=31 ]
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I'm following up some requests from last night.
If you're interested in flashing your own SuperNode, you can get your own base
GL at Amazon and Newegg:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BTL0OA/002-0864115-2816861
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124190
Both are pretty
] wrote:
Actually the Linkysis product you referenced really sucks! It stalls on you
every 2 weeks and then you have to reset it again. It's not worth the money
-- Netgear is a better product!
m
On 6/1/06, Rob Kelley wrote:
I'm following up some requests from last night.
If you're interested
Let us know how you thought the meeting went!
http://wifi.meetup.com/236/events/survey/?eventId=4912433
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DailyWireless reviews an Intel whitepaper and sounds a WiMAX alarm:
How long until $99 USB Mobile WiMAX dongles are everywhere? How long
until other countries get wireless broadband (with voice) at twice the
speed for half the cost compared to the United States?
One election cycle.
The FCC's
Additions to the broadband rules of thumb request. Does anyone know
the basic up and down traffic for these types? Are there additional
wifi-related issues to consider:
1. Web page
2. Text Chat
3. Streaming Audio
4. Streaming Video
5. VOIP call
6. VPN
7. Bittorrent
8. ...
Thanks,
Rob
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I was looking at Tom's Networking review of the PBX [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
came across an interesting statistic: each VoIP call can use anywhere
from 20 to 90kbps in each direction
Does anyone have good rules of thumb for the up and down traffic that
different types of web apps put on a
overly open APs
becoming
a source of anonymised spam. Blocked ports are probably a Good
Thing(tm)
but tracking who is responsable in this field (and who is not) may
help
boost awareness.
Biggles! Fetch the comfy chair!
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Rob Kelley wrote:
Date: Thu, 11 May
[http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/05/02/1951202.shtml?tid=39tid=92 ]
Some of this article was obvious but most of it wasn't, especially to Joe
Coffeeshop owner.
My big thing is power outlets. I like places where they're pentiful and easy
to get to.
In fact, I always thought
Wow Wednesday was a great meeting! I think it was the best in a recent
string.
I'm following up my brief show-n-tell about WifiLunchbox, version 2.
This is a simple mod to make a Linksys less stuffy and boring. I'd
love us to get a Wifi Chic or Wireless Stylings theme going.
This time I used
I can't tell how much of this is FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) reporting,
but it's on AP and ABCNews...
Does anyone else know what's really going on with the St. Cloud deployment?
IMO, it looks like a problem with user education.
Well, to respond to the writer, I see one lesson
MoveOn.org launches Net Neutraility's call to action...
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From: Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org Civic Action
To: Rob Kelley
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:03:39 PM
Subject: Congress is selling out the Internet
Google, Amazon, MoveOn. All these entities are fighting
I have to admit up until now I haven't gotten the big idea about Skype phones.
But after looking at the linksys ad I sorta get it.
Why sit tied to your computer when you're on the phone when you can walk around
with a handset?
http://www1.linksys.com/international/product.asp?coid=6ipid=821
Google has submitted patents around advertising through access points.
Um, is any of this patentable? I mean, right now wifidogs target a
user with the hotspot owners ads via the splash page.
Discussion here:
http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35323
I don't get it.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0325-23.htm
From the good folks at Common Dreams here's some difficult stuff to
chew on...
In San Francisco, Google may be bargain[ing] away users' privacy for a
trickle of Internet connectivity, according to a speaker for the
Electronic Privacy Information
from http://wikiStreets.com/ (our new name!)
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If you saw
[http://wikistreets.com/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=126|today's
article ]
[http://wikistreets.com/tiki-read_article.php?mode=mobilearticleId=126|(mobile)
], you know something shady's going on in the shadow of proud Google's
NY
My wife says ubiquitous doesn't work in a slogan--imagine trying to
get a crowd to shout it at a rally... :)
Latest version:
What do we want in the Internet?
Fast. Affordable. Open. EVERYWHERE.
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Ubiquitous Affordable High-Speed Internet with Amenity
Ubiquitous Affordable High-Speed Internet with Amenity Wifi - quite a
mouthful.
How about
Fight for your Internet: Fast. Ubiquitous. Affordable. Open.
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broadband/
Stop
Ok, I'll call it. Astroturf!
For those who don't know, Policy Analyst Randolph May is actually
with the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a well-known astroturf group
(looks like grassroots but really funded by the telcos):
Again, disingenuous.
Fiber to the Home, aka the Broadband Scandal, used taxpayer dollars as
its funding. So the telco's say now they may not get enough profits
from the subsidy? The dream of fiber wasn't corporate profit. It was
about making the US competitive in the new millennium. It was
So what do we mean by Municipal?
Affordable Broadband. Amenity Wifi.
Seems like a good slogan.
Rob
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I'm thinking it would be good to set up a half-dozen PDAs for site
surveying.
I'm wondering if at this point, how far you can go back in PDA history and
still build a manageable netstumbler.
Has anyone been down this road before?
At this point, I think the specs would be:
* Either have an
NYCwireless has a hotspot system to meet both the advertisers objectives
and the surfers demands for usability WITHOUT interstitials or multiple
pop-ups.
NYCwirelesss SuperNodes (aka wifidog) use a little web page module to let
the user know theyre still logged in. It also includes
Network Computing has a series of reviews about WLAN tools for
administrators. Some of them are expensive, but the reviews are
interesting, particularly those on graphical site survey tools. They also
devote a page to open-source tools (netstumbler, kismet):
The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...
From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
The End of the Internet?
by JEFF CHESTER
The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
alarming set of strategies that
as well. Troll under the bridge.
Game plan for consumers:
1. Fight for net neutrality and against the trolls under the bridge
2. Raise awareness of US Broadband ranking in the world
3. Spotlight the Broadband Scandal and demand the telcos be brought to
account for it.
Rob Kelley
-Original
Network Computing has a series of reviews about WLAN tools for
administrators. Some of them are expensive, but the reviews are
interesting, particularly those on graphical site survey tools. They also
devote a page to open-source tools (netstumbler, kismet):
Way to go Panix.com!!
I see Panix advertises a Home Office DSL package
-- corporate speeds at residential prices.
6.0Mbps/768kbps, $79.99/month (1 yr commitment)
Worth checking out...
Rob
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NYers looking for a broadband provider that will allow
Up until this Saturday, Jan 28, dance company Troika Ranch is
presenting its digital dance theater at EYEBEAM in Chelsea. The
production uses wireless technology and custom software to let dancers
use their movements to manipulate the visuals and the score of the
piece.
My wife has worked with
Ive been thinking about buses and wifi. Bus riders want to know
where the bus is. If there were an access point at each bus stop, the
bus could simply ping each bus stop. The bus stops AP is mapped to a
location, so the system would then know the last bus stop the bus left
and be able to
Hi all:
www.nycwireless.net is currently inaccessible. A database connection
problem has surfaced. We're investigating the problem and will update
the group as more news happens.
Thanks,
Rob Kelley
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Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo
DailyWireless riffs off a WifiNetNews post about a software company
making arrangements with a Seattle coffeehouse owner to make the place
their office:
[http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=Newsnew_topic=16 ]
He likens it to his Wifi Loft concept, like writer's space Paragraph in
Manhattan:
Jim:
NYCwireless acts as New York City consumers' advocate in the municipal
wireless debates. In that role, it has a responsibility to point out
astroturf and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) articles when it sees
them.
Outfits like PFF and Heartland Institute get their funding from
Sourcewatch.org (formerly Disinfopedia.org) gives a better background
on PFF:
* Lists as supporters BellSouth, EchoStar Communications Corporation,
Sprint, Philip Morris, and RJ Reynolds
* Was the thinktank behind Newt Gingrich's project to redesign the FDA
(the leader of Gingrich's PAC is on the
Jim:
Maybe in airpower's home of Lansdowne, PA, people think taxation is
theft (though I doubt it).
Here in NYC, as in NYCwireless, people put up with some of the highest
income tax rates in the country. Why? Because we believe in the city,
the urban environment, and communal services.
actually you __should__ be concerned about coverage indoors. At a tech
conference at the Egg in Albany we could not get cell phone coverage
inside the hall. people who knew brought cheap motorola walkie talkies
to at least keep in touch with their team.
btw, I wouldnt be surprised if some of
Dustin's comment about using SSH on a Treo reminded me. Last month
Engadget had this great post. It was just one post and it was easy to
miss, but there are 140-odd comments where Treo users share their
must-have software and shortcuts.
actually you __should__ be concerned about coverage indoors. At a tech
conference at the Egg in Albany we could not get cell phone coverage
inside the hall. people who knew brought cheap motorola walkie talkies
to at least keep in touch with their team.
btw, I wouldnt be surprised if some of
We've heard that GPS doesn't work well in the city (too many
skyscrapers, not enough open sky). Wifi-based location tracking seems
to be an alternative worth considering. The idea is to have the device
identify (but not necessarily connect) to surrounding access points and
then determine its
Send a letter to your ISP saying you want to know where THEY stand on
Network Neutraility. You can customize this one.
---
Dear (ISP):
I am very concerned about my service. In a recent BusinessWeek
article, SBC CEO Edward Whitacre made some very provocative statements
regarding whether he
From [http://sidewayzen.com ]:
Froogle ([Froogle.com ]) is Google's product search. Give it a search
term, and it'll return a list of stores and prices. Cool, but it's not
part of the [http://google.com/palm |mobile Google] you can use from
your PDA or smartphone. Google needs to make it easy to
* Sample Splash Only Page
* Sample Reporting
* Admin Web Interface
* Links
Rob Kelley
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Good for you that it works, but my firm and I had nothing to do with
the work. This is the first I'm hearing of it.
Rob
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Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you! Congratulations to all who
have contributed so far, and to future members and users!
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Earthlink Pitches Municipalities, by Glenn Fleishman
EarthLink knows its dial-up market is eroding and DSL is competitive
as all heck: Building municipal networks for Philadelphia and others
may be part of the evolution of the
Andrew Rasiej is throwing down his gauntlet (I don't know if Betsy
Gotbaum even has one). Rasiej has got some new ads up on his site
including one specifically on Internet for New Yorkers:
[http://www.advocatesforrasiej.com/2005/08/18/rasiej-goes-up-on-the-airwaves]
New York ranks 41st in the
Former FCC Commish Powell gets a cushy job after his favors to Big
Business:
[http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0811-13.htm]
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From gpspassion.com:
[http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp#news_592]
With the deployment of A-GPS (Assisted GPS - technical details)
somewhat in the air, here comes AlwaysOnGPS
[http://http://www.alwaysongps.com/], an innovative solution that uses
WiFi to assist a GPS.
The concept seems simple
Now cable operators deployed under different franchise agreements, so
their obligations varied by municipality. Nevertheless, they built
these networks under agreements to offer television programming.
Internet Access was not historically covered. Now I don't know but
seems to me, that
So I've been doing a little digging around to figure out what makes the
Junxion different from the Stompbox, if at all.
It doesn't seem to be the software. Check out the scoop from the user
manual (nice screenshots), in particular pages 39 and 40:
I applaud the Library analogy.
In fact, I'd like to see a state legislature pass a resolution or law
__affirming__ the right of local municipalities to set up low-cost
wireless for their citizens.
Can anyone think of a state ripe for enacting such a law or resolution?
Oregon?
New York?
Rob
FYI. From a press release from the Antenna manufacturer:
[http://www.wifi-plus.com/pages/12/index.htm]
;:The content delivery process is all-digital and extremely fast, with
the ads sent via the Internet from Clear Channel in New York to UDN's
Las Vegas office. There, the advertising content is
I have a technical question:
Does sawing off the end of a Cantenna kill its usefulness?
My assumption has been it's only the diameter of the tube that matters,
not the length. Is this correct?
Here's the item I'm talking about:
[http://www.cantenna.com/catalogue/SCB10.html]
Thanks,
Rob
Hi:
As Dustin introduced last night, there's a new view of forums for
NYCwireless.
You can email to this list and it will appear automatically on the
forum here:
[http://www.nycwireless.net/tiki-view_forum.php?forumId=1]
HTML still is not allowed in the mailing list, but you can include wiki
I don't know if it's been there for awhile, but I just noticed that the
Wi-Fi alliance (the folks behind the black-and-white Wi-Fi symbol)
has a Provider program [http://www.wi-fizone.org/zoneSignup.asp],
complete with:
1. Legal Agreement -
I was in Pennsylvania this past weekend, and I happened upon this place called
Panera's. It was so Starbucky you'd think they stole the furniture from down
the street. But unlike Starbucks their wireless was free--and unlike NYC
Starbucks the place wasn't grotty from being three years in
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Send nycwireless mailing list submissions to
Hey hey!
BellSouth lost again Tuesday in its fight to stop the city of
Laurinburg and a Fayetteville company from providing high-speed
Internet access in Laurinburg.
http://www.ecorridors.vt.edu/news/topic/?article_id=123cat_type=topiccat_id=3
judgement here:
Remember Pennsylvania?
According to Fierce Wireless, Indiana Ponders Legalizing De Facto
Discrimination in Broadband Service Provision. Blogger Sascha has the
story and a comic strip:
http://www.saschameinrath.com/?q=node/view/62
I wonder how many more chances there are going to be to knock
From:
http://www.govtech.net/?pg=magazine/sup_storyid=92349magid=17issue=12:2004
Wireless Crossing
December 2004 By Jessica Jones
The Washington State Ferries system is testing a way to provide
wireless Internet access from the dock to the ship and over the water.
Serving more than eight
I can't comment on Philadelphia's track record as a muncipality.
I do think wireless is a valuable and manageable infrastructure
improvement, and it's something a municipality can implement. It
seems a good use of people's taxes.
I think of the example of Dennis Kucinich and Cleveland's power
Some said making all downtown Philly wireless was too ambitious (not
me), but now according to muniwireless.com the Pennsylvania legislature
has passed a law that prohibits its and gives the whole game to players
like Verizon:
As Harold Feld puts it: It looks like a public subsidy to build
Was there any news that this concession was even available to bid on?
How did this come about anyway?
Rob
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Wherever its location and name, please count me in!
With Mobile Applications, Wireless, and GIS, I think New York City is
one of the best testbeds out there.This city has the data, the
people, the devices, and the connectivity. Perfect.
R
Hi:
I'm looking for some help in designing attractive PocketPC, Palm, and
WAP interfaces for my wireless site. I imagine I'll be using XSL
translation or stylesheets based on user agent. Basically I want a
unified look and feel. More Graphic Designer, less programmer.
Does anyone
Hi:
Does anyone have a cantenna they'd be willing to sell. I'm looking for
something like this:
http://www.cantenna.com/
Please contact me off list.
Thanks,
Rob Kelley
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Great link!
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From: Anthony Townsend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:15 PM
To: Rob Kelley
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Wi-Fi Meets 1930s Radio?
or a 1970s Boombox...
http://www.bass-station.net/
On Sep 20, 2004
From the sillier/cooler/artsier side of things:
Slashdot just posted an article about Analog retro chic with a link to a
NY company that uses old tube radios for PC cases.
http://www.facadecomputer.com/photos/
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/20/1112253tid=126tid=1
Now that's a fun
The app would need to translate the cross streets into something like
lat/long before doing location comparisons. You'd also want your
database to have both street address and lat/long--or again, a way for
the app to derive one from the other.
It seems the smart system would be to add an SMS
I'm wondering about showing users who connect to my wifi network the
strength of their connection. Sure, I could just give them a link to
NetStumbler and tell them to download the client, but I'm wondering.
Do wireless clients send out a signal that an access point can stumble
on and
Can anyone post a standard Wi-Fi Acceptable Use Policy for a captive
portal wireless access point?
Thanks!
Rob
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I'd be willing to give it a shot. I'll look over the documentation.
Thanks for the tip!
Rob
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Rob Kelley
Subject: Re: nycwireless Digest, Vol 18, Issue 16
HotZone Papers:
http://www.newburyopen.net/papers.html
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I'm moving a little further uptown and taking http://sidewayzen.com with
me. The new place has a couple coffeeshops on either corner. I want
to approach the owners about offering free wireless themselves, but it
occurred to me--what if I did get both to throw up an access point?
Probably some
Hi. Here's a short idea for an app that's been bugging me for awhile.
FYI for review, sharing, and comments.
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WIFI-BASED POSITION REPORTING
A user submits a simple little form that sends the IP address of the
local network to a system hosting a database of wireless nodes. If the
IP or
only if its something that they can show has no
commercial value (otherwise the city would get sued by the people who
paid for franchises).
Anthony:
That's a hard one. What product of benefit to a community does not have
some commercial value? Something the user couldn't afford on the open
This is a little rambly, but.
I was sitting in a park today looking for wireless and I came across two
Cometa networks. Wow, that's coverage. And they were going to spread
20,000. Wow. But they're shutting their doors.
Argh. Does that mean they rip out all that equipment and shut
Spoke too soon. I seem to remember m0n0wall does not yet work with
802.11g...
Sorry for the lost detail.
Rob
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NYCWireless,
If anyone does want to try putting m0n0wall on a Linksys, get the
WRT54GS (aka with Speedbooster). It comes with 8MB EEPROM
Cringely says:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html
If you have a WRT54G, here's what you can use it for after less than
an hour's work. You get all the original Linksys functions plus SSH,
Wonder Shaper, L7 regexp iptables filtering, frottle, parprouted, the
latest Busybox
In line with providing apps that helps wireless users, I was wondering:
is it possible to create some type of web-based widget that would show
you the strength of the signal given your location? The idea is that
when a user hit the portal, the portal webpage would show up and they
could
From the Gratuitous Technology Department...
I came across this offering the other day (smart cards for Internet
terminals -- wireless coming soon).
http://www.txsystems.com/icafe.html
But can I use the same card my building's laundry room requires?
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Thanks for the reply.
Not sure about Kagi, but I'll look. Honestly, my main concern was how
to make money over wireless safe. Paypal _seems_ more safe than some
type of credit card merchant thing. It's also pretty quick to set up.
But I'm not sure about security. Expert opinion
Anybody have a used Soekris they're looking to offload?
I'm looking for a 4521 or 4801 preferably with Orinoco card, storage
card, and even the OS. Pigtail a nice plus. Must have power supply.
http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm
http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm
Price range is between
Dana:
This is very cool. I'm going to add it to my site.
Thanks!
Rob
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