[obrolan-bandar] Re: Format Trading CALL

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Pertimbangannya banyak amat? Bisa nggak trading2 deh kalo perhitungannya sebegitu banyak. Kata Embah KISS aja deh. Keep It Stupid Simple. Sama seperti dalam TA, kita cukup memilih beberapa technical indicator aja untuk pengambilan keputusan. Kalo nunggu semua sinyal match, nggak bakal jalan.

[obrolan-bandar] Investor MEDC atau Bandar MEDC kemarin

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
Kemarin KZ menjual BUmi (35 ribu lot) dan beli MEDC(35ribu lot) Diskusi : =Kayaknya Investor yang meng akumulasi langsung Mark UP---sehingga harga MEDC naik 25+ % dalam satu hari, dengan memakai peluru 35ribu lot, seharus nya Investor kalau mau meng koleksi saham MEDC tidak perlu buru2

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TEORI KONSPIRASI OB from THE BIG BOZZ TEAM.

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
Fifi, Very good commentaries. Personally I really appreciate it. Btw, you don't need to worry because even market is bearish, people are still getting married hiring bridal fashion. So your business is still going to be 'bullish' regardless of bearish, sideways, or bullish. Once, we tried your

[obrolan-bandar] Re: NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik laven_28
Bener Bung, Jadi inget ama bung ES, pada kemane ya dia.. padahal postingannya oke punya. klo dimilis ini , memang kita harus pada kudu hati2.. Tapi kalo kita udah lama dimilis, jadi tau mana seior yang bener postingnya ama yang asal posting dengan tujuan. klo saya pribadi se cuman denger

[obrolan-bandar] Re: NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik laven_28
Klo maennya harian se, recomentnya bung JSX trader bagus punya... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laven_28 laven...@... wrote: Bener Bung, Jadi inget ama bung ES, pada kemane ya dia.. padahal postingannya oke punya. klo dimilis ini , memang kita harus pada kudu hati2.. Tapi kalo

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TANTANGAN BUAT PARA BEAR MESSENGER

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
Dizz, Example: 1. Stock pick list = BU*I. 2. Bottom = 50. 3. Return = headache, backache, neck-ache, nausea, vertigo, tremor, cold sweat, hypertension, co*k engorgement, and so on. 4. Timeframe = depend on mood. Clear? (Kwk wk wk wk.) The market is still going on Dude. Take it easy!

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TANTANGAN BUAT PARA BEAR MESSENGER

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik laven_28
aimee, lo lupa taro batas atas nya berapa? ama returnnya sekalian.. BUMI kan bisa kearah dua sisi. 4. Batas atas : NO LIMIT 5. Return : jalan2, beli mobil, rumah baru, istri baru, bla2 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA ratus...@... wrote: Dizz, Example: 1. Stock

zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik artomoro9
mungkin niat baik kita yg ingin berbagi info/rekomendasi menjadi salah faham yg berbuntut keributan/caci maki. saya sih oke oke saja ada postingan yg bilang ihsg mau crash ke 900, 500 dan atau sebaliknya ada yg bilang ihsg ke 1500, 2000 atau 3000. saya kira semua bebas berpendapat dan semua

Re: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Jend Bukan Tukang Kebon lagi??? Sekarang alih profesi jd pedagang apa Jend? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:43:31 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Re: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
2 thumbs up! Love, Newbie Aimee (Very very nubie loh)

[obrolan-bandar] that up to 90% of traders are on the losing side of the stock market.

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
Tom Williams: The average person has absolutely no idea what drives the financial markets. Even more surprising is the fact that the average trader doesn't understand what drives the markets either! Many traders are quite happy to blindly follow mechanical systems, based on mathematical formulas

Re: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Rei
Yes, betul sekali pak. Saya gak bisa ungkapkan lbh baik... 2009/2/28 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id mungkin niat baik kita yg ingin berbagi info/rekomendasi menjadi salah faham yg berbuntut keributan/caci maki. saya sih oke oke saja ada postingan yg bilang ihsg mau crash ke 900, 500 dan

Re: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Jendral Arto mending jual beli MOBIL aja, kayaknya cuannya lumayan. Iseng2 coba bandingin harga mobil tahun 2008 dengan 2009, rata2 pada naik 25% lho. Btw, saya masih bingung, kenapa banyak yang menyebut MAIN saham? Padahal kita trading serius lho, pake duit beneran. Kalo rugi juga rugi

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Teman.., untuk kedepannya, jika saya mengatakan CAKEP !! bukan berarti BUY ya., hehehe... karena barusan saya dapet japri dari seseorang yg mengambil keputusan buy di salah satu saham semata-mata karena posting saya yg mengatakan Cakep !!, trus nyangkut.., weleh.. weleh. beliau tidak

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TANTANGAN BUAT PARA BEAR MESSENGER

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik y_dizz
BU*I..?? Oh, BUDI toh... Ya udah deh, besok saya antri BUDI. www.belagakbego.com (Sebenci2nya saya sama BUMI, saya nggak tega juga kalo saham ini dibanting ke gocap) Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA ratus...@... wrote: Dizz, Example: 1. Stock pick list

[obrolan-bandar] why did your favourite technical tool, which worked for months,

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Unless you have some idea of the various causes and effects in the markets, you will undoubtedly, and frequently, be frustrated in your trading. Why did your favourite technical tool, which worked for months, not work this time when it really counted? How come your very accurate and

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TANTANGAN BUAT PARA BEAR MESSENGER

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Boss.., ente main saham apa lagi pacaran sih? pake benci-bencian segala...hehehe, ya udh kalau benci sama BUMI, kita gerogotin bareng2 aja tiap hari, gimana??... hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

[obrolan-bandar] To use a chart without volume data is similar to buying an automobile without a

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Volume is the major indicator for the professional trader. You have to ask yourself why the members of the self-regulated Exchanges around the world like to keep true volume information away from you as far as possible. The reason is because they know how important it is in

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
CAKEP!!! Bos JT nnti postingnya dibikin seCAKEP-CAKEP nya spy yang ikut trading tidak CAPEK-CAPEK... he3x. Dari: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Sabtu, 28 Februari, 2009 16:04:08 Topik: RE:

[obrolan-bandar] BANDAR spekulan tidak bisa control market

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
Tom William It is important to understand that the market-makers do not control the market. They are responding to market conditions and taking advantage of opportunities presented to them. Where there is a window of opportunity provided by market conditions – panic selling or thin trading –

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TANTANGAN BUAT PARA BEAR MESSENGER

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
yES Need for speed ? Use Speedy hehehe... Rgrds RATU SIMA ratus...@... wrote: Dizz, Example: 1. Stock pick list = BU*I. 2. Bottom = 50. 3. Return = headache, backache, neck-ache, nausea, vertigo, tremor, cold sweat, hypertension, co*k engorgement, and so on. 4. Timeframe = depend

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Format Trading CALL

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Memang secara tehnikal, bisa saja spt itu.. Kalopun harus cut loss, tentukan saja targetnya. Misal antara range 5 - 10 %. Ntar gampang buy back lagi kalo pasar udah bull pada saat yg tepat berdasarkan saham2 yg fundamentalnya lumayan s.d. bagus ... Rgrds adjies2000 ad2...@... wrote:

Re: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik anru . sing
That's mental issue. Pa Y_dizz has good trading mentality. That's a key success. I tried one, and so did my gain Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:59:02 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT : yahoo finance pun stress

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik frento suharto
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RE: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Kurang lebih Samalah seperti kalau laki-laki sering dibilang Main Cewek.., padahal 'tradingnya' serius juga, dan pake duit beneran juga wakakaka... Btw, saya masih bingung, kenapa banyak yang menyebut MAIN saham? Padahal kita trading serius lho, pake duit beneran. Kalo rugi juga rugi

Re: zBls: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Herman Tobing
Tapi yang ini apa bisa di CL juga ya? Udalah baiknya diskusi lagi untuk senin depan. On 28/02/2009, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurang lebih Samalah seperti kalau laki-laki sering dibilang Main Cewek.., padahal 'tradingnya' serius juga, dan pake duit beneran juga

[obrolan-bandar] two basic definitions for bullish and bearish volum

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAM There are only two basic definitions for bullish and bearish volume: 1. Bullish volume is increasing volume on up-moves and decreasing volume on down-moves. 2. Bearish volume is increasing volume on down-moves and decreasing volume on up-moves. Knowing this is only a start and in

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Promosi Etrading Jor2an - Fwd: Proposal PT. eTrading Securities pembukaan account ( registrasi ) by email or fax

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Cumi Cabe Ijo
haha hari ini bener-bener banjiir email dari etrading. trade confirmation dikirim sekaligus dari dua minggu lalu. terus japri-japri dari sales etrading nawarin pembukaan rekening. lah, pan aye dah sering komplain soal etrading disini, harusnya sales itu tau aye dah punya account etrading.

[obrolan-bandar] a co-ordinated campaign to acquire the stock

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Syndicate traders are very good at deciding which of the listed shares are worth buying, and which are best left alone. If they decide to buy into a stock, they are not going to go about it in a haphazard or half-hearted fashion. They will first plan and then launch, with military

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Investor MEDC atau Bandar MEDC kemarin

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Kalo kita perhatikan kenaikan harga saham MEDC yg LALU2 dan naiknya tinggi, terlihat pola/kecendrungan: 1. MEDC naik tinggi dalam 1 atau 2 hari, sesudah saham MEDC dibikin tidur cukup lama. 2. Kenaikan MEDC umumnya didukung dengan berita CA tapi umumnya sesudah itu jatuh dengan cepat. 3.

[obrolan-bandar] Strong Weak Holders

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Strong Weak HOLDERS. The stock market revolves around the simple principles of accumulation and distribution, which are processes that are not well known to most traders. Perhaps you can now appreciate the unique position that the market-makers, syndicate traders, and other

[obrolan-bandar] Resistance Crowd Behaviour

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Resistance Crowd Behaviour We have all heard of the term `resistance', but what exactly is meant by this loosely used term? Well, in the context of market mechanics, resistance to any up-move is caused by somebody selling the stock as soon as a rally starts. In this case, the

[obrolan-bandar] Supply Demand

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Supply Demand We can learn a great deal from observing the professional market operators. If you watch a top professional trading and he is not on the floor, he will most likely be looking at a trading screen, or a live chart on a computer screen. On the face of it, his resources are

[obrolan-bandar] The Basics of Market Reading

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TIM WILLIAMS The Basics of Market Reading Before you can start your analysis, you will need to see all the relevant price action, going back over the past few months. We recommend using the TradeGuider software, by TradeGuider Systems Ltd (www.TradeGuider.com), since using this software will give

[obrolan-bandar] How to Tell if a Market is Weak or Strong

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS How to Tell if a Market is Weak or Strong Buy and sell orders from traders around the world are generally processed and matched up by marketmakers. It is their job to create a market. In order to create a market they must have large blocks of stocks to trade with. If they do not have

[obrolan-bandar] How to Identify Buying Selling

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS How to Identify Buying Selling For a market to move up you need buying, which is generally seen on an up-bar (i.e. the present bar closes higher than the previous bar). The amount of volume attached to the up-bar should be increasing in volume. However, this increase in volume should

[obrolan-bandar] How to Identify Lack of Demand

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS How to Identify Lack of Demand `Lack of demand' is one of the most common indications you will see and it is pretty easy to pick out. Basically, you will be watching out for a low volume up-bar, on a narrow spread, such as the one identified by TradeGuider in the chart below. Chart

[obrolan-bandar] Testing Supply

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TIM WILLIAMS Testing Supply Testing is by far the most important of the low volume buy signals. As we shall refer to the subject many times, in what follows, it will be worthwhile to digress here for a moment and look at the subject in detail. What is a test and why do we place such importance on

[obrolan-bandar] Pushing Up Through Supply

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TIM WILLIAMS Pushing Up Through Supply Let us return to look more closely at what happens when professional money pushes up through a potential area of supply. Old trading ranges form resistance areas, because it is a known supply level. Human behaviour will never change and the actions of the

[obrolan-bandar] High Volume on Market Tops

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS High Volume on Market Tops Many newspaper journalists and television reporters assume that when the market hits new highs on high volume, that this is buying and a continuation of the up-move (the news is `good' and everybody is bullish). This is a very dangerous assumption. As we

[obrolan-bandar] Effort versus Results

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Effort versus Results Effort to go up is usually seen as a wide spread up-bar, closing on the highs, with increased volume – this is bullish. The volume should not be excessive, as this will show that there is also supply involved in the move (markets do not like very high volume on

[obrolan-bandar] The Path of Least Resistance

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS The Path of Least Resistance The following points represent the path of least resistance: • If selling has decreased on any down-move, the market will then want to go up (no selling pressure). • If buying has decreased on any up-move, the market will want to fall (no demand), Both

[obrolan-bandar] Markets Can be Marked Up (or Down)

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Markets Can be Marked Up (or Down) You cannot help notice how major moves from one price level to another usually happen quickly. This rapid movement from one price level to another is not by chance – it is designed for you to lose money. You can be suddenly locked-into a poor

[obrolan-bandar] Volume Surges in Related Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Volume Surges in Related Markets If you are an experienced market-maker or floor trader, you can read the market as it flows along fairly well. As soon as you see either strength or weakness appearing in the cash markets you are immediately thinking of trading in the option markets

[obrolan-bandar] Using Different Timeframes

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Using Different Timeframes By analysing a daily chart, we may say to ourselves, Well, there is nothing very much I can read into today's action. The indications may not be very clear. However, looking at the same day on an intraday chart will give you the missing information you

[obrolan-bandar] Manipulation of the Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
TOM WILLIAMS Manipulation of the Markets A large percentage of people are surprised to learn that the markets can be manipulated in the ways that we have described. Almost all traders are labouring under various misconceptions. There are all sorts of professional interests in the world's

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Manipulation of the Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Bos, banyak amat postingnya. Formatnya berantakan pula. Regards, DE 2009/2/28 adjies2000 ad2...@cbn.net.id

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TANTANGAN BUAT PARA BEAR MESSENGER

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik y_dizz
SURE I WILL, but NOT NOW. Too many good news, too many upgrade, it's a bad sign for me. Let see after election lah, how strong this fucking stock. Hehehe... Udah ah, belibet ngomong londho. Lama2 gue bisa ditaksir Ratu Sima nih. Hihihi... Regards, Yudizz --- In

[obrolan-bandar] MOHON MAAF BIKIN PENUH MAILBOX,, DELETE AJE

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
Berangkat dari hawa kekesalan OBer hari ini ..semoga VSA dari Tom Williams memberikan inspirasi bagi kita semua bahwa kita bisa profit...asalkan...hayoapa itu? PS. ada japri menanyakan software TraderGuide cr**k, lagi cari..paling baik dikoordinir Sesepuh OBer bikin Study Group

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Manipulation of the Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Tolong Pak Adjies postingnya dijadikan satu saja, dikumpulin attachment, atau kita dikasih linknya aja. Biar kita baca2 sendiri. Kalo gini kasihan kami dong, jadi capek ngehapusin inbox. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Bos,

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Manipulation of the Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Bos, banyak amat postingnya. Formatnya berantakan pula. Regards, DE 2009/2/28 adjies2000 ad2...@... Maaf, DE Buku Tom Williams menarikada chartnya menjelaskan dengan jelas, Mau dikirim via Japri

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Manipulation of the Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik yuliawati_tan05
Itu isi webinar kmarin ya pak,tx ya jd saya ga usah nunggu copi file hehehh GUD LUCK Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:37:11 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Manipulation of the Markets

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Lha itu dia, mendingan di upload ke rapidshare atau di attach aja (pdf/zip) kalau 1mb, lagian tadi gambarnya engga keluar. Regards, DE Pada 28 Februari 2009 17:50, adjies2000 ad2...@cbn.net.id menulis: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Bos,

[obrolan-bandar] VSA bisa di download disini

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
http://forexforum.page.tl/Volume-Spread-Analysis.htm VSA dan TraderGuide trading software...kita harus membentuk Study Club VSA Salam PS. mau Upload id files tidak bisa, files besar sekalai

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik jkunci
Pak JT, saya hampir BUY seorang cewek gara2 temen saya nyeletuk CAKEP!... Lama2 jadi bahaya kata ini... Pada dasarnya semua kata2 pak JT yg berekspresi bagi para newbie itu adalah signal seperti Cit, preeett, cakep, buset! dll. Ga tau signal buy, sell, hold, siap2, ato apa aja. Ha ha ha

Re: [obrolan-bandar] VSA bisa di download disini

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Ok Pak Adjies Sy jg tertarik sama VSA Sy Japri Bp ya. Bp ada YM? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: adjies2000 ad2...@cbn.net.id Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:17:19 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
Haha.., anda minta advice apa nyindir nih.. Hihi.., nanti deh kalau senggang saya kirim chart beserta rekomendasi lengkapnya, lengkap dengan CL level, hehe.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: rudd haas rudd...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:42:07 To:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
CL Level dr Pak JT suka di test sm BD. Sereemm. Begini aja Pak. Biar kita bisa tentuin CL Level/Support kuat nya, Pak JT tolong ajarin ke kita. Bagaimana cara ngitung support kuat suatu saham berdasarkan analisa price and volume relationship.(ada buku/link untuk referensinya tdk) ? Positive

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NASI AKING VS SHINING GOOMAH'S LEGS

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Slasher McGorok
kalo ASII ... kira2 group jardine bakal butuh duit kepepet juga gak yah jaman kayak gini? Any info? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: lkm...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:13:41 +0700 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NASI AKING VS SHINING GOOMAH'S LEGS saya juga masih

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Slasher McGorok
lho masih punya tho? kalo saya pribadi sih, belanja kalo DJI udah sideways di bawah (range?? period??) dan abis pilpres dan kalo milis OB udah mulai sepi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:03:37 + Subject:

[obrolan-bandar] Senin nasabah sp demo dan pegawai sp mogok

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Kidod25
Senin besok kabarnya nasabah sp akan demo dan nasabah sp mogok kerja karena gajinya blm dibayar. Mohon kepada teman2 agar terus mengangkat isu ini agar dapat selesai. Tq

[obrolan-bandar] Senin Selasa masih bear ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik sulistyo_winarto
Mbah JT, Walau kira2 Senin Selasa masih bear, pasti ada yang mantul2 ?.. Kira-kira saham apa ? Mohon signal-nya. Apa group Banking ? Atau MXXX, MIXX, INXX. Salam

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Senin nasabah sp demo dan pegawai sp mogok

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Mampus deh, kalo mogok semua, trus yang ngurus transfer efek saya siapa? Prett...!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kidod25 kido...@... wrote: Senin besok kabarnya nasabah sp akan demo dan nasabah sp mogok kerja karena gajinya blm dibayar. Mohon kepada teman2 agar

[obrolan-bandar] Re: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Kalo mau nentuin buy sekitar 800 aja Pak, tapi itu bukan tehnikal, cuma fundamental yg agak down .. Rgrds indeksbei3...@... wrote: CL Level dr Pak JT suka di test sm BD. Sereemm. Begini aja Pak. Biar kita bisa tentuin CL Level/Support kuat nya, Pak JT tolong ajarin ke kita. Bagaimana

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sst.. mohon tenang.

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Hoki Tralala
WIKA n JSMR, Pakde 2009/2/22 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Minggu depan, jika tidak ada aral melintang, sampai mudahan sepanjang maret adalah hari-harinya BUMN. Mohon jangan ribut-ribut atau kasih rekomendasi/timpukan atau apapun yang dapat mengganggu ketertiban umum. Jaga

Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT : yahoo finance pun stress

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Kim Chi
Ini memang ada bugs di yahoo-nya dan kemungkinan besar mrk sendiri tidak sadar ada yg error. Mungkin mesti cari tahui bagaimana report bugs tsb. nim On 2/28/09, Boys n Girls boysngi...@gmail.com wrote: hehe iseng-iseng bangun tidur buka yahoo finance -- lucu juga lihat yahoo

Re: [obrolan-bandar] VSA bisa di download disini

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Armando Anthony
Nice reading Pak Adjies.  Kalau ada summarynya boleh dong diposting juga. Thanks Armando

[obrolan-bandar] Re: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Ohh ya ada tambahan lain, kalo udah 800 masih juga downtrend ke 700- an,down lagi... wah bahaya arahnya bisa ke gocap tuh... ti hati aja Rgrds FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... wrote: Kalo mau nentuin buy sekitar 800 aja Pak, tapi itu bukan tehnikal, cuma fundamental yg agak down ..

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TEORI KONSPIRASI OB from THE BIG BOZZ TEAM.

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik fifi young
Aimee, Just saw your posting. You've been to my show room...? Hmmm... KETAUAN DECH... hihihi... Anyway, your posting were skillfully orchestrated, :p ... maneuvered people's mind, to some... it was a dreadful warning, but to most... don't understand a thing. Aside from mystique 'n complicated

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Senin Selasa masih bear ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik anru . sing
Kalau pertanyaannya spt ini, better stay away dr market aja. Kondisi saat ini volatile, strategy berubah2. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_wina...@yahoo.co.id Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:57:27 To:

[obrolan-bandar] Re: VSA bisa di download disini

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indeksbei3...@... wrote: Ok Pak Adjies Sy jg tertarik sama VSA Sy Japri Bp ya. Bp ada YM? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! reply : Hello indexbei3000 maaf, tidak punya YM Tetapi coba komporin Pak

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Senin Selasa masih bear ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Cumi Cabe Ijo
yang ditanya kan cuma mbah dan jt, kok ikutan jawab sih? :-P On 3/1/09, anru.s...@gmail.com anru.s...@gmail.com wrote: Kalau pertanyaannya spt ini, better stay away dr market aja. Kondisi saat ini volatile, strategy berubah2. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

[obrolan-bandar] Re: VSA (Armando)

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Armando Anthony armando.anth...@... wrote: Nice reading Pak Adjies.  Kalau ada summarynya boleh dong diposting juga. Thanks Armando Hello Armando, Maaf, tidak punya summary nya, tapi chusus buku ini perlu dipelajari secara mendetail dan

[obrolan-bandar] VSA - [Master the Markets]

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik adjies2000
Maaf, Japri tidak dijawab. Buku VSA Master the Market - Tom Williams http://forexforum.page.tl/Volume-Spread-Analysis.htm e-book Master the Markets Software TradeGuider C***, entah bisa jalan tidak Regards

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: VSA bisa di download disini

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Ari
monggo di http://www.vpanalysis.blogspot.com/ --- Pada Ming, 1/3/09, adjies2000 ad2...@cbn.net.id menulis: Dari: adjies2000 ad2...@cbn.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: VSA bisa di download disini Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Minggu, 1 Maret, 2009, 7:20 AM --- In

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Nabila
Dear Mbah, Pertanyaan yang sulit mengenai apakah kita sebaiknya melikwidasi investasi kita sekarang. Market regional saat ini tengah berada dalam tekanan berat, kekuatiran investor bertambah, bearish messanger bermunculan. Semua media massa dunia lebih banyak menyiarkan berita buruk dan

Krisis ekonomi seperti besi panas [obrolan-bandar] KENAPA DOW BEGITU JEBLOK???

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Ricky Wakiman
Saya kadang mbayangin situasi krisis ekonomi sekarang ini seperti sebatang besi yang salah satu ujungnya dibakar. Ujung yang dibakar itu adalah AS. Di sebelahnya adalah Eropa, lalu menyusul Jepang, Singapore, Cina, dan (mudah-mudahan) paling ujung adalah Indonesia. Karena besi merupakan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Rei
Saya gak ikutin gak punya porto Indf nih...cuma utk info saja, memang ada apa dgn Indf koq bisa sampai 50? Thanks! On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:48 PM, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.comwrote: Ohh ya ada tambahan lain, kalo udah 800 masih juga downtrend ke 700- an,down lagi... wah bahaya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Boys n Girls
Ops sedikit koreksi - Yang pertama saya masih belum pro masih kelas amatir - Ke 2.. saya tidak menghindari BUMI lho...kalau ada kesempatan copet saya masih melakukannya cuman saya memang tidak suka BUMI efeknya lebih banyak negatif daripada positif tidak layak aja saham kelas gorengan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik jkunci
Bumi adalah saham yg banyak dipuja dan banyak dicaci (koq bisa begitunya?). Naik turun saham ini sudah berbau politis, keluarnya dr lq45 jg berbau politis, dicaci maki di OB jg berbau politis. Bumi ya bumi emang fenomenal ck ck ck Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

[obrolan-bandar] Menkeu Curi Start

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Ricky Wakiman
Dalam suatu forum ekonomi dunia, Menkeu Sri Mulyani pernah melontarkan kritikan kepada negara-negara industri maju yang berencana menerbitkan obligasi besar-besaran untuk membiayai bail out dan stimulusnya. Hal ini dikatakannya bakal menyedot cadangan devisa di negara-negara berkembang akibat

[obrolan-bandar] Re: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Utangnya sejak thn 98 belum lunas2..., tapi kita tunggu saja krn rencana keluarin semacam obligasi, mungkin bisa mendongkrak kembali sahamnnya.. Btw contoh2 bisa jadi gocap, bisa dilihat strategi exit dan trendnya CPRO, BNBR dan TRUB dsb ... Tapi ini mudah2an saya salah analisis, karena bisa

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Senin Selasa masih bear ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik anru . sing
Ingat saya waktu pemula... :) Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Cumi Cabe Ijo cumie...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:36:17 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Senin Selasa masih bear ? yang ditanya kan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik D Hendarman
BUMI banyak bikin orang bangkrut tapi juga banyak bikin orang kaya. Korban BUMI hanya bisa sumpah serapah, sebaliknya yg cuan dari BUMI sih nyengir kuda. Trading itu spt dua sisi koin, ada yg cuan, ada yg jeblok. Nah, keduanya (yg cuan dan jeblok) ada di milis ini. Jadi harap maklum aja...

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Luar biasa, tulisan anda begitu jelas merangkum pendapat2 yg ada di OB. Sepertinya anda sudah biasa menulis buku ?. Note: - Sebenarnya ada satu lagi pendapat yaitu kubu Selatan Extrim, yaitu pendapat yg mengatakan krisis ekonomi dunia akan menjadi depresi ekonomi global yg berlarut2 seperti

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Agree Mbah.., pasti penulis nih.., tulisannya JELAS dan enak dibaca.., I can assure you, Ini yang nulis PASTI bukan Newbie, hehe.., BRAVO NABILA !! Keep On Posting.., kasian EL kesepian tuh..., saya mau temenin tapi dia ngga mau, sebel sama trader katanya... hehe. Regards, JT -Original

[obrolan-bandar] change your strategy---Buy against other traders

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Felicia Rumondor
change your strategy: -Lupain FA deh-- Bozz itu jago vermak n bikin cantik -Lupain TA juga-- Bozz itu jago gambar  mengutip dari tulisan orang :  “I had heard about technical analysis and chart patterns, and looking at this stuff I would say, what kind of voodoo is this? I was very, very

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik dho
Sungguh posting yang luar biasa Terima kasih pak/bu Nabila Best regards, Rudyho

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
EL kan bilang die ga butuh temen.. bisa ndiri.. Waktu jadi bear messenger juga engga ada temennya, ditimpukin sekampung walau ada jaka OB yang naksir (ehm..boyz) tapi kayanya di short terus ama EL..kkeekke.. Regards, DE Pada 1 Maret 2009 11:24, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com menulis: Agree

[obrolan-bandar] Berkshire has worst year, Buffett still optimistic

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Vic
Saturday February 28, 6:07 pm ET By Josh Funk, AP Business Writer Buffett optimistic despite Berkshire's worst year, prospects for more economic turmoil OMAHA, Neb. (AP) -- Warren Buffett remains optimistic about the prospects for his company and the nation even though Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

RE: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy---Buy against other traders

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Ok, jadi strategy-nya BUY against trader? Pertanyaannya Trader yg mana nih, kalau yg dimaksud Big Brother, saya malah senengnya ngebonceng mereka… hehe…, tapi kalau yg dimaksud “against trader” adalah Counter Trend Strategy…, I couldn’t agree more… Btw, Statement dibawah sangat arrogant

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: VSA bisa di download disini

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Pak Adjies, saya masih ngga paham mengapa anda sepertinya menempatkan VSA diluar technical analysis..., karena menurut saya Volume Analysis adalah bagian dari TA.., VSA adalah TRADING SYSTEM yg mengunakan pendekatan Volume Analysis.., as a matter of fact VSA butuh data OHLC + Volume. Well,

RE: [obrolan-bandar] TEORI KONSPIRASI OB from THE BIG BOZZ TEAM.

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Wakakakak.., Bu Fifi ngga bisa galak-galak lagi sama RATU.., karena Customer adalah RAJA... hehehe Regards, JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 01 Maret 2009 1:19 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

RE: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Yes Sir, kalau liat kelakuan BDnya atau yg punya.., sapa sih yg ngga empet, baca beritanya aja dah mau muntah., rasanya waktu BUMI di suspend IHSG malah lebih enak., tapi kita ini bisa apa sih, not much lah.., kalau buat trader mah yg penting ada trading range dan volume, dan bumi bisa memberikan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy---Buy against other traders

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Bambang Kansah
WOW! Miss Feli, nice shoot! Two thumbs up for U! Good luck ya. Semoga cuan terus. On 2/28/09, Felicia Rumondor felicia_rumon...@yahoo.com wrote: change your strategy: -Lupain FA deh-- Bozz itu jago vermak n bikin cantik -Lupain TA juga-- Bozz itu jago gambar  mengutip dari tulisan orang : 

[obrolan-bandar] INDF, harga CLOSE terendah

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Kalo melihat posisi close/penututpan terendah INDF, yakni 880 tiga hari ber-turut2, tgl 27 feb, 26 feb dan 25 feb, maka kita akan dengan mudah memperkirakan arahnya angka berikutnya kemana. Tentu itupun kalo INDF yg sudah punya nama besar tidak merubah strateginya.. Angka 880 adalah angka

RE: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy---Buy against other traders

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Felicia Rumondor
Jadi artinya pak JT bisa menjelaskan secara pasti bagaimana cara kerja TA2 itu? boleh juga pak kalau ada penjelasannya, ini kan pendapat orang lalu di test lewat computer dan hasilnya tidak match. Coba penjelasannya pak JT hihi kalo bisa mah jgn pake foolish2an...thx --- On Sun, 3/1/09,

[obrolan-bandar] Tanya tentang sukuk retail

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Bambang Kansah
Z... Zzzz... Zzz... Katanya suruh tenang, ya udah, bobo dulu yuk... :-D On 2/28/09, Hoki Tralala hoki.tral...@gmail.com wrote: WIKA n JSMR, Pakde 2009/2/22 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Minggu depan, jika tidak ada aral melintang, sampai mudahan sepanjang maret adalah

Re: [obrolan-bandar] NYANGKUT: The hidden truth

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik rina mayapada
Mbah, kalo nyangkut di gocap mah, itu udah suratan takdir kali, he.. he.. On 3/1/09, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes Sir, kalau liat kelakuan BDnya atau yg punya.., sapa sih yg ngga empet, baca beritanya aja dah mau muntah., rasanya waktu BUMI di suspend IHSG malah lebih enak., tapi

[obrolan-bandar] Re: pak jt mohon advice nya soal indf

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Embah kagum ama tulisan Prof JT tentang INDF dibawah ini. Kalo pembahasan technical INDF sih engga ada yg baru, biasa bisa saja, TAPI ada SESUATU yg SANGAT menarik pada tulisan si profesor JT tentang INDF yg lagi bearish ini. JT bisa membahas saham yg lagi bearish menjadi sesuatu yg punya

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